Instant Analysis - D David Jiricek Traded To Minnesota Wild! w/ Steve Dangle

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@MikeyLewTV
@MikeyLewTV 3 күн бұрын
The Connor Dewar trade tree grows!!!!
@smnbrgss
@smnbrgss 8 сағат бұрын
So essentially the Wild traded away the Dewies for another big rig to protect our Russian super car
@sleepybenz1919
@sleepybenz1919 3 күн бұрын
Wild were already legit AF
@Outpost-13-Hockey
@Outpost-13-Hockey 3 күн бұрын
Faber, Jiricek and Zeev Buium (sp) that's going to be tasty.
@smnbrgss
@smnbrgss 8 сағат бұрын
And 3-4 days later, the Wild are ontop of the world!
@jordanstreib3898
@jordanstreib3898 3 күн бұрын
Jiricek has flaws he's 21 and has potential similar how jets fans view Heinola. But if you were to offer a 1st+2nd+3rd+Daemon Hunt a 22 WHL guy for Heinola or Salomonsson I'd take it. You can't judge this trade until 2-3yrs from now when you find out who the 1st/2nd/3rd turn into. It definitely seems like a good deal for jackets imo it's a Chevaldayoff move fans won't like it rn but when those 2/3 picks contribute with Mataychuk,Svozil,Elick,Cuelemans,Dumais,Fantilli,Sillinger,Johnson ect that's the time core going forward.
@JeremyCuddles
@JeremyCuddles 3 күн бұрын
It's kind of worrying that a team is giving up on a 21 year old they drafted 6th overall. Either they know something we don't or this is borderline self sabotage. Lol.
@SOLIDERjee
@SOLIDERjee 3 күн бұрын
I think its better than it could have been. I think both "win" the trade. Lots for Bluejackets will depend on who they will pick with the picks they got
@JJ............................
@JJ............................ Күн бұрын
They can temporarily disguise his bad defense/skating buy pairing him with someone like Brodin who is an excellent skater and is a great defensive defenseman. Dumba is a liability defensively, which is why the Wild didn't bring him back. Dumba played with Brodin, and Brodin bailed out Dumba so many times from his defensive blunders. I think the hope is that Andy Ness can help fix Jiricek's skating the same way he helped Rossi.
@bobholst874
@bobholst874 3 күн бұрын
I miss the Deweys, as we calked Duhaime and Dewar. Nice kids with a ton of heart! Dewar has a knack on the PK of breakaways...sneaky speed. Duhaime, always ready to mix it up, drop the gloves and throw down...
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 3 күн бұрын
Because Jiricek is still very much unproven, so the question becomes: Would you trade FOUR of your top-4 picks for a 6th overall pick?
@JohnB-mo4kq
@JohnB-mo4kq 3 күн бұрын
Top-4? We traded a more than likely bottom first rounder and 3 other rounds that rarely ever make it to the NHL. Good gamble in my opinion, if they can fix his skating.
@skyhawk4946
@skyhawk4946 3 күн бұрын
The Wild will likely finish in a decent spot this year and in the coming years. All those picks will be toward the end of those rounds. It's a no-brainer for the Wild. If he is half as good as they think, it will be worth it. The Wild always finish well enough to never get a top-10 pick.
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 2 күн бұрын
@@JohnB-mo4kq No, top-4 as in your first, second, third, and fourth picks...
@JohnB-mo4kq
@JohnB-mo4kq 2 күн бұрын
@@tonykung8756 You're kind of stupid aren't you? Anything but the top 10 in the first round are all pure gambles. We gave up nothing for a decent gamble. It won't hurt us either way.
@genericchannel5899
@genericchannel5899 2 күн бұрын
​@@tonykung8756 That's not how people say things.
@jasonyearout9618
@jasonyearout9618 3 күн бұрын
Jiricek can't skate well and he's tall & skinny - he's a giraffe out there. Saw him in person when the Leafs played in Columbus last December (the game where Samsonov couldn't stop a beach ball). He looked stiff and uncomfortable. Problem was he was insisting he's NHL ready when he's not. He couldn't beat out the corpse of Jack Johnson for playing time on the 3rd D pair. Maybe he fills out over time and becomes a reliable skater. But it wasn't happening in Columbus. Waddell's not attached to him - he wasn't Don's pick - so deal him at his max value for a bunch of assets.
@ZueluMTG
@ZueluMTG 3 күн бұрын
The answer for "What happened David Jiricek with the Blue Jackets" is simple; the GM (and presumably the scouting staff) that drafted him are gone. The new guys in town didnt like him as much.
@PpP-dr1od
@PpP-dr1od 3 күн бұрын
I hope the Flyers offered Drysdale for Jiricek, even just as a joke. He was enough for the 5th overall pick, so surely he'd be enough for the 6th overall pick, right?
@jamielennard3388
@jamielennard3388 3 күн бұрын
The Wild have pulled off a heist here. They would have to trade up 10+ spots into at least the top 15 to get a RHD remotely resembling Jiricek in this draft, which likely means paying two 2nds in addition to their 1st for a player that would be 3+ years away from being ready.
@Nastynati0513
@Nastynati0513 2 күн бұрын
Not really, he's an AHL player at his current skill level. He can't skate and the Jackets have 6 better blue liners than him.
@Jostra_FAME
@Jostra_FAME 2 күн бұрын
@@Nastynati0513 CBJ fan trying to cope with losing their 1st rounder, cuz of shitty management. I love it 🤣
@mikehofer432
@mikehofer432 2 күн бұрын
Don't think so, and I'm a wild fan. That's a lot of draft capital to give up for a player not meeting expectations.
@Jostra_FAME
@Jostra_FAME 2 күн бұрын
@@mikehofer432 You do realize the expectations are set by their management who cant reach further than a 2nd round?
@jamielennard3388
@jamielennard3388 Күн бұрын
@@mikehofer432 I do understand that viewpoint (As a Habs fan, I did not like the Newhook trade, which is sort of similar to this one), but I don't think the quality of the picks that you're sending away is very high considering the upside with Jiricek. The 2025 draft is weak and the Wild's pick will be late, the 2nd is 2 years away and will probably also be late, and 3rd and 4th round picks rarely turn into anything If Jiricek were draft eligible this year (at his current age and with all the information we have about him now), how many players would you take ahead of him?
@t.m.l.t.m.l.5399
@t.m.l.t.m.l.5399 2 күн бұрын
This is a high pick and he wants to earn some of the bonuses in his contract. Only makes 82,000 in the minors. Seems like his agent did a lousy job not getting more money for AHL play. It is surprising that more teams could not have offered as good or better deal. It is a little baffling for a RD of this caliber to go so cheap. Hell Toronto could have offered a better deal with CBJ needing goalie prospects or RD Danforth. Seems like there is something that is making teams hesitate here.
@Internut1985
@Internut1985 2 күн бұрын
Remember when the isles gave up on Nino their 5th overall. Wild picked him up And he turned out to be really good nhl player
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 5 сағат бұрын
Solid. Not good. Not really good.
@martinslezak9664
@martinslezak9664 3 күн бұрын
As Jackets’ fan … I was saying exactly the same thing as Steve until the last minute before the trade. No need to do this trade. He was in the AHL where he belongs. Its not Wadell’s job to cater to every whim of these kids. It didn’t matter if Jiricek “felt” he was ready for the NHL. One more year of big minutes on a good, winning Monsters team wouldn’t hurt him in any way except his and Walshes wallet. The return is low 1st in a bad draft year + irrelevat garbage. THIS was the best offer on the table? I wanna kick Wadell in the “Steve Danglers”.
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 5 сағат бұрын
Kirill was a 5th round pick. Hardly garbage. The nhl isnt like the 2nd rd of nba drafts.
@martinslezak9664
@martinslezak9664 3 сағат бұрын
@ Excellent idea, I will tell Wadell to trade 2 5th rounders for Kaprizov. You can get the next 2 Kirills for the price of one. 🤣🤣🤣 Jiricek is a surefire NHLer if not an outright star. Even the 1st rounder in the 20+ range he got as the center piece has a much, much lower probability of becoming a 10 year regular solid NHLer (Sean Kuraly, let’s say) than Jiricek has of becoming a 2nd pairing D (in the mold of let’s say Seth Jones these days). Using Kaprizov as an example is like saying play the lottery to solve your finances.
@GaryAntonich
@GaryAntonich 19 сағат бұрын
Let's give him a shot. A few years ago, nobody thought Joel Eriksson Ek (tall skinny guy) would go anywhere. Look at him now! Wouldn't trade him for anything!
@alyssapowell1799
@alyssapowell1799 Күн бұрын
The rumor out of Cleveland is that Jiricek wasn't listening to coaches, was cherry picking, lazy on the ice and just wanted to play offense. He thought he should be in Columbus, and only wanted to score goals in Cleveland, not improve on defense. So, sending him down to Cleveland wasn't helping.
@2Jim2u
@2Jim2u 2 күн бұрын
I hope you do ask Adam.... I started off by thinking Mateychuk and Svozil, but finding out that these 2 Columbus dmen are left shooters, unless Columbus is going to play them on right side, then Columbus has Ceulemans - another first round pick selection, and Clayton, both hanging out in Cleveland and both under 24.
@2Jim2u
@2Jim2u 2 күн бұрын
reminder to myself, Svozil was Bedard's 2nd leading scorer on Regina; Mateychuk came out of the run to the Memorial.
@dxh4317
@dxh4317 2 күн бұрын
I would of liked the leafs to have thrown they're hat in the ring
@chriswright7259
@chriswright7259 2 күн бұрын
I hope Guerin saw something in this kid that the Jackets did not. It will be interesting to see where he slots in. I can't imagine he goes down to Iowa with that price tag.
@Outpost-13-Hockey
@Outpost-13-Hockey 3 күн бұрын
How are Columbus so consistently bad at developing talent? It's baffling how many quality prospects they've given up on or mishandled.
@19Alcibiades87
@19Alcibiades87 Күн бұрын
how far back are you reaching? they missed badly, and often, for a long time. but lately? they're killing it- half of their current roster are home-developed talent, and many are having breakout seasons. that marchenko guy was a mid-2nd rounder and he's on like an 85 point pace and leads team in goals. werenski is homegrown at a 90pt pace and only isn't in norris discussion because columbus is invisible to other team homers. boone jenner is homegrown and although injured, any team would immediately plug him into their lineup. kent johnson is on a 109pt pace in 82 and on the verge of breaking their all-time point streak record to start a season - they're paying him 1.8m aav until 2026-2027 and he's still a RFA after! voronkov is a 4th rounder who's dominant at 6'5 230 on a 6/5/11 in 14gp and heating up. tv didn't even have a graphic for chinakhov when they took him at 21oa, but he's got one of the fastest wristers in the league and that man flies. sillinger is one of only 11 players to 200+gp before age 21, and check the pedigree of his companions in that (crosby, mackinnon, stamkos, laine...). their mateychuk kid is leading the AHL and one of the top prospects in the league right now. i actually forgot and am now editing in that they have fantilli, too...that kid's going to be amazing. they fully developed two undrafted prospects on their roster in jake christiansen and justin danforth, and they're both quite solid. they drafted bjorkstrand in like the 3rd or 4th and lost him to cap pinch, which sucks for them but not for the kraken. they landed josh anderson in the 4th round and flipped him at a perfect time to mtl. i dunno man, maybe i'm too young to get your point. they seem to drop guys with attitude problems and who don't pan out...who doesn't? for a team with no first overall win ever, they've done pretty well for themselves lately. and they seem to have a good sense of timing with their moves, at least to me.
@danielprampero2672
@danielprampero2672 3 күн бұрын
Unfortunately what happened is his glaring weaknesses (terrible skating and defense) never improved in 3 years time, even after 2 GMs and 2 coaches. Ultimately he has plenty of time to turn it around, this trade will only be won or lost based on hindsight.
@michaelbaron9387
@michaelbaron9387 3 күн бұрын
Yep, and new gm sells high on guy they don't think will achieve his potential.
@BrownKnee666
@BrownKnee666 3 күн бұрын
Minnesota paid a very big price for an unproven prospect. Can be a top 4 but they already have Faber. Feel like Columbus won this trade by a landslide. I think getting a Patterson or even a Matheson would of been 10x better for them.
@Jostra_FAME
@Jostra_FAME 2 күн бұрын
I like how CBJ went from having a shitty gm and coach to having a new shitty gm and coach. Congrats on the useless changes 😂
@cheddarandsourcream
@cheddarandsourcream 2 күн бұрын
He hardly got a chance to get into a rhythm last year. They dicked him around all season constantly being sent down to the minors then being called up a day or two later and not just a couple times it was probably close to 10 times, and when he was up he’d play a game and then sit for 3. They didn’t handle him well last year and he didn’t get over that. They should have kept him in the minors all year and you know, let him work on his game maybe.
@genericchannel5899
@genericchannel5899 2 күн бұрын
If only the consistency of the organization had worn off on him. Maybe another new GM or two could have turned CBJ around.
@jeremyrhansen6637
@jeremyrhansen6637 3 күн бұрын
Damn... Really wanted my Nucks to go get him!
@moodlampActual
@moodlampActual 3 күн бұрын
Columbus decoded theyd rather die than let the kid play in yet another nothing season for the team. Whats the risk? I dont get it; let him play, and more importantly, develop instead of rotting in a press box. Now we trade him to a team that came into the league the same year as we did and continue to stack up poorly next to them.
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 3 күн бұрын
Columbus doesn’t believe in the concept of a rebuild, even if they ended up at the bottom of the league multiple times in the last decade, it was almost always accidental. Same reason they played with Johnson’s development, you are young and not performing up to our standards ? GTFO !
@plainbagel9192
@plainbagel9192 2 күн бұрын
Or Jiricek doesn't turn out as expected and his value erodes
@19Alcibiades87
@19Alcibiades87 Күн бұрын
@@benoitrobitaille5235 bro they locked johnson up at 1.8 until 2026-2027 and he's currently on a 109 pace if playing a full 82g season. he missed like 14 games and is still on pace for 91pts this year...he looks like a 3" taller Patrick Kane (actually, I just looked it up and Johnson's pace is much better than Kane's y4)...if that's botching development, sign me up for all of it.
@pbone32
@pbone32 2 күн бұрын
hazards of doing a live trade analysis without knowing the details. Jiricek did not want to go develop in the AHL and asked to be traded instead of going back to AHL. He needs to develop, but didn't want to. Wild have to keep him in NHL where he will be exposed early on. Not saying he will bomb, but David unnecessarily turned himself into a boom or bust prospect purely for his impatience.
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 5 сағат бұрын
He is giving Ryan Leaf vibes to me.
@RicardoMedeiroscourtier
@RicardoMedeiroscourtier 3 күн бұрын
If Jiricak is worth that, just imagine what Mailloux is worth?
@jonahlewis7157
@jonahlewis7157 Күн бұрын
Steve needs to do his research first. Yes jiricek is young. Yes he can be sent down and would benefit. But jiricek was demanding he was nhl ready and said he did not want to be sent down.
@MrHipes41
@MrHipes41 2 күн бұрын
The winner of this trade? Easy, Denton Mateychuk.
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 3 күн бұрын
Looking forward to a Minnesota-San Jose WCF in a few years.
@evannovitzke
@evannovitzke 3 күн бұрын
6:48 😅lol is this like a news cast Steve Dangle??? @spdn 😂
@InsignificantNick
@InsignificantNick 3 күн бұрын
It just seems so early to give up on a 6th overall pick from 2022. Columbus really had a place on boot hill for him. I hope he proves them wrong.
@jeffer1101
@jeffer1101 3 күн бұрын
Likely a win for Jiricek. Columbus doesn't seem to have much in terms of development and support. As Steve mentioned, he's still young and most players aren't Norris candidates at 20. If he's got a solid foundation (he should since he was drafted so high), let him develop in your AHL club (which is what they are for) so he can improve his skills and continue to grow (physically, mentally). It doesn't look like Minnesota's AHL club (Iowa Wild) is overly successful (in terms of record), but hopefully they have good staff and resources to develop the players for the big club. The kid just turned 21 and is a 6'3", 209 lb right shot defenseman. You can't teach that, so if he's already decent at playing hockey, work with him. I like the deal for Minnesota, as long as they can develop him.
@benpezzot8805
@benpezzot8805 3 күн бұрын
As a jackets fan he had a bad attitude and signed out of Columbus I like him but it was necessary
@williambooth6701
@williambooth6701 3 күн бұрын
First!
@traveksty
@traveksty 3 күн бұрын
This will go down as the Herschel Walker trade of the NHL
@genericchannel5899
@genericchannel5899 2 күн бұрын
An end of round 1st and a small left-shot dman whose ceiling is regular nhl 3rd pairing were the only statistically useful assets going CBJ's way. Take your meds.
@italian1ist
@italian1ist Күн бұрын
What a dumb take lol. Their first is going to be a very late first round pick
@19Alcibiades87
@19Alcibiades87 Күн бұрын
@@italian1ist i'm looking forward to seeing who they offer sheet with it
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