SDTM Episode 61: Iron Maiden Pinball Machine Review

[@fireblack8141]

Iron maiden are timeless. That's why this is their second pinball machine. Eddie is the perfect character.

[@Hexsyn]

The fact that you guys dislike iron maiden so much yet still speak highly of the gameplay is a major boon to me. I love Iron Maiden and that was what originally made me giddy to see this pin for the first time in person when I was first catching the pinball bug, so I can only imagine how much fun I would have owning this pin.

[@andrewpowell1734]

Iron Maiden is awesome. You need better tastes in music.

[@SDTM]

Andrew Powell so NSync isn’t good enough for ya? What about Hall & Oates? I guess I’m out of the loop....haha. IMDN music isn’t horrible, it’s just not good ;)

[@andrewpowell1734]

I've been listening to them since 1984. You have never seen their live show. Amazing! Their lead singer also flies their airplane.

[@SDTM]

Andrew Powell that is pretty effin cool

[@fireblack8141]

Exactly. 16(!) full studio albums and two(!) pinball machines on the resume speak for itself. Iron Maiden has been awesome since most of us have been born. (And they're still rocking!!)

[@fireblack8141]

@@SDTM two(!) pinball machines, a full Maiden-themed video game, and 16(!!) full albums and a zillion fans say different.

[@alanrobertson6389]

Theme and art are probably the most subjective of all. I, like many others have been screaming for Iron Maiden for years on the forums. Finally got it, and everything from the sound to the art to the layout to the rules. Everything is topnotch for me, fantastic shooting pin. Great, easy to comprehend rules. Always something else to shoot for. Love this pin. Premium is definitely better. The center ramp in the pro gets old. In the premium, the scoop under the ramp makes the game better. Plus the sarcophagus, really makes it better as well.

[@leatherpunk]

Great vid! Had a few IM tapes back in the day, so I loved being able to select my own song. Went to a free play arcade that had this in their VIP section, volume cranked up all the way. I love how multiball was easy to achieve, the lights really enhance the music, played it for about 2 hours straight this weekend. I grew up with a Dodge City pin in our basement, parents still have it. My dad bought it for $100 at a garage sale back in about 1984.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

I ordered this because I love Iron Maiden the theme of Eddie speaks to me and pinball. So a solid machine. But for a second pin machine something different like Godzilla or Deadpool would be fun.

[@wolverine3344]

The Band Iron Maiden is universally loved around the world, and has pulled countless music fans into pinball fans because of this game imho. good review. this must be my next machine, Guns n Roses sill have to wait.

[@ChezArcade]

Games so great. Not even a fan of IM. But, LOVE IT!

[@TiltingT]

I believe Zachs opinion on Theme lost all credibility with the "Eminem would make a great theme" comment...really?

[@SDTM]

Travis Lancaster haha I hear ya but I went to high school in the late 90s, early 2000s so it’s what I know.

[@TiltingT]

Still enjoyed the show keep up the great work!

[@scottlarmore5038]

Just gonna pause the video to say, Iron Maiden is freaking awesome. I can get that the music may not be to your tastes, but there are a LOT of people that like Iron Maiden.

[@asdfhiuh]

How you guys rate theme is completely ridiculous. It should be how well the theme is integrated, not your personal opinion of the theme. Maiden is one of the most successful and longest running bands that have ever existed.

[@joshuaanderson7405]

I have been waiting for this pin for decades, but I totally get why others might not like it. As an IM fanboy... it’s a dream theme. Good for me, bad for you. Pretty happy I wound up with the Archer playfield.

[@SDTM]

Joshua Anderson there’s nothing like getting one of your dream themes in a pinball machine. Big congrats man! It’s extremely well done for Iron Maiden fans. (Zach)

[@joshuaanderson7405]

Thanks man - hoping to get my Premium in a couple weeks. Great show (as always)

[@SDTM]

Joshua Anderson hell yeah! Let’s us know how you like it

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

Great point Joshua I’m sure I’d get plenty of flack if they made a Pink Floyd pin, or a led zep or a who pin ... bc any of the 3 id but an LE and not think twice about dropping 10k+. And I probably wouldn’t even play it or look at the pf first- I’d buy on theme and music alone. So I’m honestly happy for IM fans - they got a dream theme and that’s cool- I wish everyone would get theirs someday, as for me I may be waiting another 30 years for Floyd.

[@joshuaanderson7405]

CHris Whitecavage I would love a Pink Floyd, Zep, Who, or especially a Rush pin. I guess I will be waiting for those as well!

[@sp4msolo724]

If you dont like iron maiden as an adult you spent too much time with your mother as a kid

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

Wow Zach just went off with the “IM is Shit theme, shit music” LMAO 😂 Dude I gotta be honest- I didn’t think you had the balls to go there... thought you’d sell out and thankfully I was wrong. Glad you guys are honest. Everyone has their own thing, but this is your podcast, it should always be YOUR opinions. Don’t ever change guys...

[@jameslee3741]

Just want to reiterate about your hating the theme... This is not a band theme pin. There are no images of the band anywhere. Only time I noticed a direct musical reference, apart from the bands songs is Eddie holding a guitar during the x times bonus award animation. Otherwise it's straight up monster theme. I think you rated it too low. You would not/could not have Zombie Yeti's art which you gushed over, without the Maiden theme. They go hand in hand. Also, Zombie Yeti channeled Derek Riggs' style. He really stayed true to how Derek drew Eddie. Derek was the bands main artist for many, many, years and from time to time still draws stuff for the band. And again this has his flavor all over it. And that is part of the theme. So I think you were trying to be too cute or clever. And that's not an insult to Zombie yeti. I think his art is killer and I might one day get a Ghostbusters cos it looks amazing.

[@SpookyDeCat]

Guys, I think part of the allure of this game is to boomers. My dad served in both the pacific and Europe. Dad saw a lot of bad stuff and almost never talked about his war experiences. I know it seems distant as the US civil war, but to, Children Of The Damned, who grew up with these damaged men it resonated. One of my best memories is a concert in Mesker Theater in Evansville, IN. an open air venue. Blue Oyster Cult opened the session flowed by A German metal band Accept, then Iron Maiden. I already head deafened myself listening to the band's songs in my car and whenever parents weren't hone This is a small out door stage When Edie inflated and arose out he canopy covering the stage, nearly reaching the crowd, it was an truly awesome sight I will never forget.

[@EnCrypticon23x]

20:30 You guys didn't cover the super secret skillshot. Plunge the ball just light enough that when it exits it goes straight down the left outlane. You get like 10 or 20 million (can't remember exact amount) + some extra ballsave time. Someone told me about another one, but I can't remember and also haven't found it, so it's existence is questionable.

[@frankie1g2]

I have never enjoyed watching 2 men eat icecream so much.I found it therapeutic and calming thank you

[@SDTM]

frankie1g2 hahaha we love you Frankie!

[@heppo6]

Iron Maiden is a Great theme. It is one of the absolute greatest rock bands ever. A "D" for theme is just wrong. Love the channel though........ so all is forgiven.

[@SDTM]

Gulp…

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

agree but these guys are not maiden fans. I love mine and the gameplay, theme, music and package is fantastic fun! But I am a fan of their music as well.

[@travisjohnson6358]

Great game one of my favourites definitely in my top 5

[@budweisertallcans7965]

My favorite one so far. You guys are hilarious

[@SDTM]

Donald Miguel wow thanks a ton

[@jlo6388]

Been playing this on location. Very fun. My wife loves it.

[@FloydMaxwell]

Great ratings...I can't add much except I saw IM at the NYC tournament over the weekend and it looked good. Bowen pulled off a miracle at the end...great tournament.

[@quuhod]

Normally I would recoil at the thought of watching a bearded man eating an ice cream cone but I'll be damned if Greg managed to do it without contaminating his bearded area at all. Impressive!

[@SDTM]

Quuhod one of his many talents

[@quuhod]

Kudos!

[@rtbrain]

This was my first video review from you guys. Admittedly I’m not a pin guy but I have become a huge Iron Maiden fan. I’m in my 50s. My brother started listening to them in the early 80s in high school and I thought their music was complete shit and have literally not come around to being a fan until the last 5 years so I get what you are saying about the music but the band is still huge and has a badass following of fans to this day and still put on an amazing show. My friends just bought the premium addition of Iron Maiden pin and for a fan, it’s so much fun to play and now I have to say that every damned night I look at pins. I’ve got an old Williams Pat hand in the basement. It needs a tuneup and it’s fun for nostalgia reasons but not I’ve got the bug to get a kick ass pin and will start watching your videos! Nice work...even though you hate Maiden. 😂😂😂 oh BTW...the dog name you were looking for is Anubis guardian of the underworld in Egyptian mythology. I’m an Egypt nerd as well which may also explain my love of the maiden pin.

[@colemangreen4191]

I can get not loving the music or being a fan or listening to it in your car but come on objectively it is hype pinball music. It is clean lyrics with deep themes and history, amazing solos, and nice variety. Eddie is a sick mascot. The Egyptian theme and Premium art is great. You gotta at least respect/appreciate Iron Maiden and what they have done and built over the last 45 years. I'd rather have this theme integration than concert footage of geriatric rock stars. It is simple - play as various forms of Eddie and kill the Beast!

[@LordBadenRulez]

I like your brand of friendship. Love that you both love pinball. ❤

[@sassaidi]

nobody listens to iron maiden? They were here 2 nights in Toronto in a big venue and was sold out. They travel with their own Boing 747, you tell me who else does that other than the president of the United States...

[@jameslee3741]

No one listens to Iron Maiden... Just one of the biggest bands in the entire world... ANd all down without mainstream support...

[@vascodangeli]

exactly... without even getting attention on mainstream media... just pure music and fans... greatest band ever.... best fans ever.

[@jameslee3741]

Totally agree with you. I cannot stress the importance of their success without the mainstream help. They are not handsome blokes, they are not about image. They are about Music and Music alone... Derek Riggs artwork did help get them noticed, but what really did it is just great music. Imagine if they had radio airplay, tv spots and all that jazz. They would be even bigger. Now that is a scary thought. Also, lets be honest. Bruce Has been with Maiden since 82. Yes, he left. But, they just released a great album Book of Souls. I mean Maiden just really doesn't show much signs of slowing down. No one listens to them... Only in a fantasy would that be true, nad that would actually be a nightmare.

[@SDTM]

James Lee all terrific points and I can’t argue with that. All of the Iron Maiden fans I’ve met kick ass

[@frankie1g2]

How many people have Spotifyed iron maiden after this review???

[@vascodangeli]

I have spotified maiden from the day spotify was available. Own all their music on cd and vinyl. Its music and their are lovers and haters... but nobody can argue (I believe) that there is a lot of love going in their sets and shows... and the fans are the true stars... the interaction with the fans is always great.

[@gameplayfirst-ger]

Iron Maiden are great, but I don't like music based themes in general. Still better than AC/DC, Kiss or Rush.

[@thomasschory8498]

Glad to see you enjoying your SW premium. I enjoy it more the longer I own it.

[@SDTM]

Thomas Schory yup eating crow on that one

[@DSNadine]

Iron Maiden is propably the best 'player' pin and a really packed pro, but (music/ license aside) it misses a 'whoa' toy/ gimmik. Since I'm a 'one game at a time' household I'll propably pass. Loving the flow, but directly compared I prefer Stern Star Trek, because of the feedback the Vengeance ship gives the player.

[@zilla66]

I would. Kill for that pin. Love Maiden

[@damianhealy300]

Great review. Super thorough and enjoyable. Sorry you dont like Maiden but they are a pretty big babd still to this day and have millions of fans around the world. You guys probably like country music and i would rather be in the dentist's chair than listen to country. To each their own they say. Thanks guys

[@markhorsburgh]

I must admit I am in the camp that is slightly fed up with music themed pins. Sure they are a great fit and Alice coopers looks great. But I would take a Houdini or Alien any day of the week. How do you guys feel about the upcoming Thunderbirds pinball? The price and the approach to having only one model is a great area imo

[@SDTM]

markhorsburgh thunderbirds does nothing for me and the machine looks like it was made in the 90s. Hard pass for me but I like the price

[@Riz2336]

I think it looks like a cool pin to me man, kind of sucks there's basically no toys but the shots look fun.

[@LeeFiero]

Up the irons Bloodbrothers!

[@michaeljkasnter]

Game is phenomenal!!! Especially with LOTR flipper coils

[@Thorn76]

You read my comments with a lot more venom than I typed them! Glad you proved me wrong. Re: the IM table... I dunno, all these new Stern tables bore me to death, even when I like the theme. It's like they're just shoveling 'em out. If I had the $$ I'd get a Houdini or an Oz in a second, the makers of those tables really try to create an experience... whereas to me it feels like Stern is just slapping different artwork on the same old layouts. Not that I know from shit. I live in a pinball-free area of the world, god damn it.

[@SDTM]

Douglas Thornsjo many feel the same way

[@cigarsandpins4781]

Great show guys! Where did you get the small LED lights on the side boards? That has a really cool effect on the metal ramps.

[@kirby695]

Great video guys, I was thinking of getting this pin... but I'll wait for deadpool pin.

[@SDTM]

kirby695 my prediction is that Deadpool will not sell as well and will not be received as well as Iron Maiden, but we shall see. Layout is interesting

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

Deadpool!

[@frankie1g2]

Bruce Dickinson is the front man of iron maiden.he is also a commercial pilot And to keep his hours up flat holiday makers on random flights. Fun fact

[@joebristowtechnologicalbre2073]

Great review, what is the music on the intro at around 1:16 please?

[@kwheeler57106]

Love your candor. The review was fun to watch and I got a kick out of the banter. And the review itself was deep enough to get a real idea of if its fun. And the honesty about hating the Iron Maiden theme is well received. Even though I disagree, at least it was a non-filtered thought...and I have heard it from others. But I am a product of the 80s hair/metal generation. :) Keep up the good work.

[@SDTM]

Kasey Wheeler very kind words we very much appreciate your feedback

[@michaeljkasnter]

Premium worth every penny, as always!!!

[@gamers7800]

Yes Greg ...we missed you.😜 The art work does look amazing but the video graphics seem a tad outdated, at least compared to say Oz from Jersey Jack . Calling the graphics PS ONE is a complement, you guys are too kind. It could just be me but stern should step it up a notch in the on sceen menu design. I think JJ has spoiled me.

[@michaeljkasnter]

the center target makes a cool metal symbol bashing noise!!!

[@flipoutnh]

Thank goodness you brought back Greg (he's the nicer looking one). For a second there I thought it was turning into the "Kaneda with an accent" show. :p just kidding... You guys are great. I enjoyed the review and will be purchasing a Pro now.

[@SDTM]

FlipOutNH Pinball Group thanks??? (Zach)

[@vwpswp]

Howdy from Victor from ArcadeTattoo. Love the show. Have a great one guys.

[@SDTM]

vwpswp hell yeah Victor! Thanks for hanging out. I can’t wait to get some more time on ACNC

[@joshuaburton154]

this is my fav pin to play i love the band and the pin is fun to play. to bad the screen went out on the 1 at the bar. hope tommy fixes it soon. i put at least $75 thru it in 3 weeks

[@matthewpilla4323]

Thanks for AWESOME reviews guys! I'm selling some pins to buy a new stern. Because of you guys i'm down to Ghostbusters, Munsters and Iron Maiden all Pro models. What order would you put them in? thanks again for great shows Join twitter!

[@zombie3833]

I can understand his hate. I love this theme but you couldn't pay me to be in the same room as Aerosmith or KISS. They may be great. I dont care because I hate those bands. I own Metallica and would rock a Maiden Pro

[@OnTheSnap1]

Darn this video has stopped me dead in my tracks. Just go back from the GGPF, and decided on maiden over POTC ... but I also am not a fan of the band. And a movie theme is what I really wanted. But the game seems awesome.. Now I’m back to indecision. POTC lacks any humor, and takes itself way to serious. Maiden is high energy, crazy fun shots, and lots of variety. Back to total confusion. ;-)

[@SDTM]

OnTheSnap1 maybe we will have a This or That episode coming up next to discuss that very question ;) thanks for chiming in buddy

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

If it’s for HUO- and a matter of Stern or a JJP- I’d say go JJP man. If you’re not a fan of the music it’s gonna grate on you and get old quick Pinball is no fun on mute or w earplugs in!

[@mattleone5831]

You would like a Bieber theme better.

[@SDTM]

Matt Leone maybe not Bieber but not far off haha

[@skippychurch2965]

It's all in good fun Zach. :)

[@SDTM]

Skippy Church absolutely man thanks for always playing along

[@vividpsychosis8222]

Isn’t theme rating suppose to be integration of the theme? Not bashing the theme because you don’t like it? You can’t rate an Iron Maiden pin poorly on theme because it’s Iron Maiden... the theme is super well integrated into the world of Iron Maiden’s legacy of the beast which is what is suppose to be..... just saying. If you rate a fish on how well it walks on land, it’s gonna fail, but if you rate it on how well it swims it’s amazing. Same goes for this pin and your ratings go way off base.

[@SDTM]

VividPsychosis G fair point, but our rating system takes into account the choice of theme, due to this being an important category for us personally in a pinball Machine. My little pony may very well be integrated well but it’s a crap theme. I don’t particularly think the theme is integrated well if going by only those standards. Only the art. Hell it was a different pin before

[@vividpsychosis8222]

Straight Down The Middle: a pinball show personally, I think the game of the year was one of the worst themes in the last 10 years. It’s just terrible. Atleast Iron Maiden is kick ass looking monsters.

[@SDTM]

VividPsychosis G I cant argue with that

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

Straight Down The Middle: a pinball show couldn’t agree more! This is one of those themes that ppl either absolutely love or completely despise . I agree 100% the Choice of theme is a big part of the grade and being a music pin yeah- the music is a huge part also. Also no interactive toy was def a disappointment

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

Also I’d take a my lil pony pin over this lol

[@adambolinger6810]

I love this game, great flow. I'm not a Maiden fan, but the game play is awesome. Also, aren't you guys in Indiana?

[@SDTM]

Adam Bolinger yes we are. Hoo hoo Hoosiers!!!!!

[@adambolinger6810]

Straight Down The Middle: a pinball show have you guys been up here to Fort Wayne yet? We have over 80 machines in the wild now to play. Wizard's World, Double Dragon Barcade, Hop River Brewing, Summit City Breworks, and Old Crown Coffee are the places to go!

[@SDTM]

Adam Bolinger never been

[@adambolinger6810]

Check out Wizard's World. 60 pins to play.

[@TimmyMac73]

i wanted to come through the screen when you said nobody listens to iron maiden!!!

[@joshuaburton154]

most people dont understand how us indiana guys are we talk shit to and about our friends and the more we treat a friend like shit the more we like them.lol

[@SDTM]

Joshua Burton sense of humor and trust is important

[@joshuaburton154]

very true

[@michaeljkasnter]

pinwoofer installed !!!

[@timmcmanus8713]

Guy on right has zero taste in music! Your words about Iron Maiden are fighting words🤣

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

up the irons!

[@ealadubh4800]

George is Best Beatle. FACT.

[@OnTheSnap1]

“I don’t think starwars leaves for _a couple weeks_”. 😂. So if you love a pin it stays 2 weeks? Haha

[@SDTM]

OnTheSnap1 haha meant to say months but that’s not much better

[@HARDESTBOOM]

clicked as soon as it popped up :D

[@SDTM]

Nicolai Laursen hey thanks for watching!!!!

[@FloydMaxwell]

I don't like hairy dogs...hilarious

[@henryk123]

Nickleback? Ouch...

[@marcocalo4516]

Do an iron man review!!!

[@drjhale9801]

You guys said wrong thing ! Eddie’s coming for your blood 🩸 you lost a subscription today !

[@savethezombies]

Just skip to 10:30 or 12:00 and thank me later.

[@fireblack8141]

Thorough critique.👍

[@frankie1g2]

You have a man's friendship.not a ladies friendships yezz my wife's friendships are so high maintenance

[@SDTM]

frankie1g2 right?! Although I know many a men who act like a friendship should be a marriage. Ugh no thanks hahaha

[@legendodinson7082]

Seriously, Can we just get two of Greg for the show? :P

[@SDTM]

Julian Jimenez i agree. Two Greg’s equals one Zach ;)

[@rask4p]

OK. I'm going to say it. I 'kind' of like Iron Maiden. I've always been a metal head and Maiden fits in the pantheon of huge metal bands, so I kind of have to like it. With that said, it's never been the type of metal that I go to, the vocals are too operatic for my taste and it's more 'epic' than 'heavy' if that makes any sense. With all that said, I think the music is awesome for pinball and if Zach starts singing along, the theme really can't be that bad. I've played maybe 10 games and this is a great great pin, but there are two problems that I've found. First, the animations are amateur and that really really sucks. Pinball and art come together and this feels like a big step backwards. I think the stable of artists that Stern has at this moment are not equipped for the new displays and that needs to change. Second, while it plays AMAZING, there's really not a lot of excitement in this game. Metallica was exciting, the toys were unique and fun, Maiden doesn't have as much going on as a 90's pin in my opinion. I'm really really surprised that this game didn't get animation from Brendon Small. His animation on Aerosmith was awesome and with his background doing Metalocalypse, as the voice of Sparky in Metallica... he seems like a natural fit!

[@SDTM]

rask4p fantastic points! Artists at stern are the best in the biz but they don’t do the animations, wish they did

[@TMFDeej]

Iron Maiden is THE WORST Stern theme ever. Bad music + the Devil. Blech. The awesome Elwin design saves this game. Put this theme on a layout like Guardians and it’s sales would drop by at least half. The world of people who can drop thousands of dollars on a pin is small enough. The subset of Pinball people who like IM is even smaller.

[@CementRoots]

LOL... good luck with whatever you would think would make a good theme, and it come to fruition... stop fooling yourself LOL...LOL "The subset of Pinball people who like IM is even smaller"....LOL...LOL LOL... the Devil....LOL oogity-boogity-boo!!!

[@turbografx7]

I have to agree 100% with Zach! The theme....its total rubbish! The art is incredible even though I don't like the theme. The layout is great! It's so fun to shoot! This machine is for pinball aficionados. This is not a machine for the casual player. It's missing an interactive toy in my opinion. If this had been guardians with a toy......i would have been all over it!!

[@SDTM]

turbografx7 exactly! I want my theme and one interactive toy damn it!

[@chriswhitecavage2903]

Turbo I agree 100%!

[@FloydMaxwell]

I agree 100% as well

[@michaeljkasnter]

pinwoofer installed !!!