World of Warships- St. Vincent First Impressions: Worth The Wait? Or Just Another Gimmicky Ship?

[@warfreedom217]

My 3rd game in her I broke my damage record with 328k damage and i did it with a full secondary build they are very accurate and helpful with burning when im close in using my AP too bad it was a loss you know how MM is

[@yourmamom]

The AA is actually really good. The problem is that it's mostly located on the back half of the ship with the dual/octuple mounts and the mounts themselves are incredibly weak. And being such a fast ship for it's size... it encourages people to "accidentally" smash all your AA when they don't lead enough. The same thing happens with the Duncan. It can get so bad that you lose over half your AA in an alarmingly short time if certain things are shooting you.

[@twinkyoctopus]

it's not like aa does much anyway

[@matthewyang7893]

Certain things like your brothers on the tech tree with God tier HE

[@jammo7370]

The AA is actually the highest sustained DPS of any tier 10 ship at all, the only problem is that it doesnt output anywhere near enough flak to actually be an effective deterrent.

[@furiousscotsman2916]

Played 4 games in here .... 2 krakens and avg of 3 kills a game 150k dmg. LOVE HER

[@blurredvision11]

09:16 about the Heal "it's not quite as good as the Conqueror's..." the Heal is SAME as Conqueror, 40% by default, 48% with flag, 52.8% with flag and captain skill, 58.1% with flag and captain skill and slot 5 module if youre crazy enough to use it

[@magicthings5485]

What flag and captain skill?

[@jammo7370]

@@magicthings5485 there's only one heal flag and one captain skill that actually increases healing done

[@imgoingtomakeyoupopliketha6962]

If you go on ship tools the heal is the same as conquerors

[@Virgilfinnatell]

Actually it is slightly worse. It heals the same amount, but Conqueror's superheal heals 75% of penetration damage taken, this heal 'only' heals 60% of penetration damage taken. So it is slightly harder to get the full use out of the heals.

[@blurredvision11]

@@Virgilfinnatell grrrrrrrrr

[@amzylio]

This ship has the potential to take out 4 ships in a close range brawl at once (if all the enemies aren’t full health) 1. Torps x2 2. Guns 3. 40 knots ram Truly a scary ship to face

[@BinkyTheElf1]

Get well soon, SLM. I hope one day to own this BC. As a disorganized FTP WoWS player, I've only made it to tier 8-9 in one line, over years of playing. I'm doing my best to get used to the battlecruiser mindset of flank, hit-and-run, support but don't try & lead or get too far into the furball. IIRC, the huge I-3 battlecruisers were laid down, but quietly scrapped after the Washington Naval Treaty, since they weighed in at a minimum of 50,000 tons. The general I-3 designs went into the later "interesting" plans for the Nelson & Rodney battleships (38K tons displacement).

[@avimin]

I think this ship will be the reason why people will stop playing the Bourgogne…it’s in the tech tree and doesn’t cost steel, concealment is better, reload with the build Mountbatten has is just 2 seconds more than the Bourgogne, better guns, armor I think is similar but this gets access to zombie heal, doesn’t get reload booster but the torps and Def AA more than make up for it and with speed boost, it can reach a faster speed than Bourgogne to get to the flanks and with better concealment as well….RIP Bourgogne

[@SofaKingA]

Ouch, good take. I was gonna get Bourg as my first steel ship but I'll grind out the Vincent before I make up my mind.

[@mknote]

Counterpoint: Bourg has three more barrels, better armor (32mm everywhere can bounce everything but Yamato shells and bigger, unlike the overmatchable bow and stern on St. Vincent), and, as you said, MBRB, which I think isn't made up for by Def AA and torpedoes but is instead just different. Bourg is more gun focused and is a true battleship, whereas St. Vincent has a different toolset and is a battlecruiser.

[@magicthings5485]

@@mknote good points, its different enough for sure.

[@RasmusDyhrFrederiksen]

St. Vincent has short fuse time? So more citadels with Bourgogne guns?

[@treeherder42]

St Vincent's armor is not kind of the same as bourgognes, its significantly worse. Def AA and torps don't come close to main battery reload booster on 12x380mm guns, maybe you could argue the superheal does but not with a 25mm bow at t10. Now St Vincent does get better overmatch but the French 380s get some ridiculous shell speed and arcs and will pick up big hits where some slower 406s will struggle. St Vincent is like bourgogne in that it's got speed and hitting power, its true that neither is a tanker of a ship, but bourgogne can tank as long as its 457mm or lower and angled, while St Vincent worries about anything over 358mm aka t6 and higher bb guns. I mean bourgogne overmatches St Vincent, St Vincent does not overmatch bourgogne. It's a good ship and it's different, maybe shares the flanking playstyle but it is by no measure a choice over bourgogne.

[@RasmusDyhrFrederiksen]

I will probably take rudder shift instead of repair 2 module. But nice review. I have enjoyed the line so far, a lot.

[@niezlypasztet9848]

St. Vincent is simply amazing BB. One of the best in the game. Ps. Check build with Super Heavy AP Shells and You will see citadel fiesta.

[@Bohdisattva326]

Can you do an operations video with tips for the new ops ? I played for hours last night. They’re a lot of fun 🤩

[@arizona_anime_fan]

it's basically a poor man's Thunderer. in every way that means. I had a game recently thunderer vs a 3 man st v division. 1 on 3 on a flank, and took all 3 down with the thunderer. Sure, it was 27 guns vs 8, but in order to use all 27 guns those stv had to basically expose their broadside and paper thin armor to the thunderer, and frankly, the thunderer's AP is way too good to give those juicey broadsides to. just kited em, and took em down one at a time.

[@meneldal]

I like playing with 60s fires and faster rudder. With the extra heal skill even when you're on 3 fires it's no big deal, and furious can make it very powerful. I also take brisk for going even faster.

[@MrPyromaster247]

Huh Mountbatten reviews the St. Vincent… and less than 24hrs later the queen of England passes away.

[@Bohdisattva326]

Well I skipped out on the thunderer because I felt dirty due to its playstyle. Changed my tune since. Will get this. Great info sealord

[@simplgaming8495]

Kinda wish he would do a review on the T5 DD Siroco. It was my first premium ship and holds a special place in my heart.

[@sardaukerlegion]

I will keep Thunderer for long range and this one for short range.

[@ExiledGundam]

How it is compared to Incomparable?

[@rallsanti]

It just shows that this ship has such high renoun... and is just as sharp as a hawke... with an indomitable spirit in order to repulse the enemy. It is truly a goliath on the battle field and a daring choice.

[@thedon9670]

I got the Duncan as my first 1000 doubloon package. Ground out the St Vincent in 20 or so games. Been waiting nearly two months for her to release! But now I have no more port slots for her lol

[@bella_ciao4608]

You could just sell one of those t2 premiums everyone has

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

Damn fires... Can't wait until WG raise the citadel instead of simply *halving the fire chance* because balans

[@themysteriousguy3784]

how does this ship compare to something like the marseille?

[@Moon_Cricket_Stinks]

Will consider grinding the bc line. Edit: since it has specialized repair party consider running furious and improved repair party. I run that on nelson and it runs nice to get fast reloads from 3 fires and repair running.

[@Sam_shootz]

Playing through operations this morning got me through t7-8 pretty easy with the blue XP boost now just to get past Duncan

[@chillglobe]

Ahh yes, the most bizzare treaty ship design i've ever seen

[@jonathanstrong4812]

Strange? well they were later turned into the hasty bargain for the redesigning them into the Nelson and the Rodney of WW2 fame Shame on the Royal-Navy for scrapping them they should of being a museum-ship!

[@r.awilliams9815]

My sympathies for the allergies, it's the tree pollen in spring time that sends me into paroxysms of sneezing.

[@Hydra360ci]

High marks for a ship that can't shoot or survive, backwards... umm... okay? Thunderer has Fire Protection, this thing.... Funny that the guy who cried and still cries about the Thunderer is excited about these guns.

[@momchilgradinarov6428]

Sounds like a prime nerf target, now that they are free to get.

[@jammo7370]

the vinny is already a nerfed version of the monster we could have gotten. Larry was a vinny with better armor and *2.1* sigma. imagine the outrage if that thing came out.

[@Frankon81]

But running ship EXP (not captain or FXP) is usless on a t10 that has no reserchable modules.

[@thedon9670]

You can pay $$$ to turn it into free XP

[@Frankon81]

@@thedon9670 not worth it ^^

[@Joshua-fi4ji]

@@Frankon81 not for most people, but given how he wants to review everything as soon as it's out it makes some sense. He just has to whale it and for free xp and RB ships you need free xp.

[@evolutionari]

Not gonna lie that Norton scared me for my own pc for a second there.

[@rickwiggins283]

Confirmed ... the torp launch sound has been glitched for a couple releases now. How did that pass testing???!!! WG will probably release 100 new premiums before it decides to "fix the glitch".

[@SapphirosCZ]

Interesting how healthbar shows different command tower than model itself.

[@divad589141]

Man ....now to slow grind up the line to use the econ booster I got for her

[@jonathanliu4816]

So basically a tech tree super Nelson/Collingwood

[@blurredvision11]

come on, not putting Brisk for 2 captain points on a Stealthy, Speedy ship WHY ??? full anti fire build is needless on a BB with 4 x 52.8% heals that heal ALL of fire damage

[@imgoingtomakeyoupopliketha6962]

Most former ccs and current ccs use tank build bb they got skill issues with any other build

[@lukeueda-sarson6732]

Good review.

[@marcos0z658]

A better Bourgogne ?

[@SofaKingA]

Seems like a similar gameplay to Thunderer just, burn everything down. If Thunderer was bad for the game wouldn't this be as well? 🤔

[@V-V1875-h]

It is, but is arguably less survivable, but it's anyhow a toxic ship made for HE sniping cucks

[@brianjefferson7178]

Seal Lord.. why did you take Hydro flag ? Just noticed that. St.V doesn't get hydro

[@minhlequang3834]

i citadeled a zao with the HE that's gotta something

[@minhlequang3834]

also full salvo 4 citadels on a worcester

[@lkjyuiop1987]

I only like to play as a DD it’s way fun with teamwork

[@l7986]

It triggers me to no end that they had you down to like 5 health and you just repaired in their faces like it was nothing. Genuinely would have lost my shit if I watched that happen in person.

[@brainletmong6302]

Psychological warfare is a british specialty. Love doing it with my nelson

[@joao_goncalves]

Hey man, a new Waterline episode came out. Go watch it!

[@ImRandomDude]

what makes you use norton?

[@joelmontgomery4837]

The highlights of the line for me were Renown and duncan. Vincent just suffers i find at tier 10. Especially from fires. The weaker heal that conqueror but being forced to play close just doesnt work with HE spamming. A reload buff on the heal would just perfect her

[@Karathox]

Vincent has exactly the same heal as Conqueror. Same amount of charges, too.

[@joelmontgomery4837]

@@Karathox no it doesnt. Why do people keep saying this. It isnt. Vincent gets the same heal as nelson not conqueror. But nelsons heal is designed for tier 7 not 10. It restores 60% hp. Conquerors heal restored 75% hp. Its on the wiki before you start argueing. Under the consumables section. Check your numbers

[@Screenedwings]

​@@joelmontgomery4837 How does st. vincent suffer that much more to HE spam than conq in your view? Seems like a pretty clear trade-off: conq heal more pen damage, sure, but st. vincent is much more maneuverable and gets 40 mm deck plating. Fires always heal at 100% as well, so given that the heals actually are identical in that they can potentially restore 40% of the ship's total hp pool per charge (base stats), there is no actual difference here.

[@joelmontgomery4837]

@@Screenedwings less HP and less heal make fires far more deadly. Meaning you have to kill whatever HE spamming ship is focusing you quickly. But your guns whilst good arent good enough to compensate for how quickly you will die. The 40mm deck protects against AP overmatch. Its useless in todays HE meta where a lot of heavy cruisers can pen more than 40 and any ships that cant have a high enough fire chance for it not to matter. And everyone can pen the 25mm anyway. Yes you can heal 100% fire dmg. But your ship is so squishy it doesnt matter how much you can heal if you cant survive long enough to get the second one off. You will notice it most often when you kill a ship youve been farming for a bit but your HP just isnt enough to compensate that last fire. More than likely you will burn down with 5 seconds of fire left or a few seconds to the heal. Ive played vincent a lot so far and its a frequent problem. It might help once new ship syndrome goes away. But everyone wants to shoot this thing atm so its a severly glaring problem. That 10% difference from conqueror is missed.

[@Karathox]

@@joelmontgomery4837 I'd suggest you look at wowsft or, you know, in the game. Both ships heal 2% of their HP per second for 30 seconds. If your Conqueror heals more, maybe you have a flag equipped or something.

[@frattuncbas]

I cant cita with Vincent,but Jean Bart and Bougogne,its easier than Vincent.

[@thedispenzas7957]

Nothing is "very unique." It is either one of a kind or it isn't. Can't be "very one of a kind."

[@SuperDare83]

Con: lack of hydro

[@azoverdosed]

Looks like they do not want another Hood

[@ted5567]

Crocodile

[@avatarwarmech]

I don't know if anybody watch the road map videos that they just released today but prepare for more Kearsarge like ship they have three new Us hybrid ships coming that are like the Kearsarge

[@MasterVideoStudios]

and I thought the North Carolina was ugly

[@JafuetTheSame]

NC ugly? wtf

[@caa4118]

I dont find NC ugly, have you seen the French heavy cruisers?

[@MasterVideoStudios]

@@JafuetTheSame yeah I think its an ugly battleship

[@MasterVideoStudios]

@@caa4118 St. Vincent makes the French heavy cruisers look normal

[@stefanocrosazzo3262]

NC is one hella schwexy bote

[@billwalker9509]

👍

[@leehongjin6884]

First of all I wanna say about this ship... its bloody hideous. I can't believe the British actually designed something so goddamn ugly. It may have some benefits such as not needing such a long armour belt but I'd prefer not to have this eyesore of a ship exist.

[@roys.1889]

Honestly true. Like someone from the past looked at the Yamato-prototype that ended up being the Izumo in WoWS and thought to themselves "I can make something look even worse than that cactus having breadbox."

[@mr.eggplant866]

What are you a girl?

[@sgt.squeegee1720]

I like the WWI ship designs, sure it is... Different, but it looks glorious in its own way! Keep in mind this was a design at the time that big heavy breakthrough dreadnoughts were king, and carriers weren't really a thing yet.

[@MrGrim2u1987]

Nerf incoming...

[@dressydressy6246]

It’s a battleship. Meh. Boring. Just another ship at the back of the map pressing the left mouse button while someone else does all the work.

[@jayvee8502]

It doesn't have the range. Some of the cruisers even outrange this ship.

[@caa4118]

Lets be honest, the main selling point of World of Warships is the ability to play as big badass battleships. First time playing WOWs, you wouldnt even think about grinding the cruisers/destroyers line.

[@jayvee8502]

@@caa4118 You got me there.

[@moksq42]

Ugly looking ship. Totally not gonna grind it.

[@seroskal9354]

It's a battleship. Not a battlecruiser. There are no battlecruisers in the game.