RANT- Stinker Albums From Bands You Love

[@gwyld]

For me, when someone mentions a stinker by a great band, Metallica's St. Anger always comes to mind. I tried to like it, and never could.

[@MetalMan73100]

I feel the same way about everything Metallica has released after the Black Album.

[@KevinOrtega1980]

I’ve learned to appreciate load and reload but st anger has angered me

[@dancollins8296]

St. Anger is horrible

[@anthonynewcome128]

@@dancollins8296 i like reload, but st anger and load are just garbage, when they played monsters of rock in 95 they played 2 x 4 which according to james was a work in progress title from there new album, it didnt appear on load and retained the name a year later, i suspect reload was the planned release, but the label stepped in...

[@Gregbaltzer]

@@anthonynewcome128 Load and Reload were both suppose to be released together in one album, but the label didn't allow it. It took me 20 years to like Metallica again, but the problem with Metallica is they've lost the ability to self edit themselves. It seems like every idea they have ends up on an album. That's the issue with Hardwired. If they kept that album down to the top 8 songs it would have been really good, but they didn't know when to discard their more mediocre moments and it all ended up on the album and it weakened it.

[@mrsary7868]

I suspected the theme of this video would be terrible 80's albums by good 70's bands lol

[@DetVen]

@@miketheyunggod2534 Ted Nugent, Bad Company, Nazareth, Aerosmith, the list can go on and on.

[@itkojecockot]

@@miketheyunggod2534 the only 2 bad Sabbath albums from the 80's are "Born Again" and "Seventh Star"....... the rest pretty much kicks ass

[@elimalinsky7069]

@@itkojecockot Seveth Star is really an Iommi solo album. the label forced him to release it under the Black Sabbath name. It doesn't sound much like Sabbath because it was never meant to be Sabbath.

[@itkojecockot]

@@elimalinsky7069 yeah, I know the story...... I think even the album cover has only Tony on it :D:D

[@elimalinsky7069]

@@itkojecockot Indeed it has.

[@MisterMikeTexas]

Hey! "Time Stand Still" is a great track! And Amy Mann is guest vocalist!

[@greensombrero3641]

it's one of my favorite songs - Time Stand Still.

[@LBart218]

I'm a huge Rush fan (as you can see by name and avatar) and I will agree that Time Stand Still is a great tune. I also like Force Ten and Mission. The other tracks don't excite me much, so I have to sort of agree with the man on this one.

[@michaelrushlander7696]

La Villa Strangiato is great---2112 is great---Freewill is great---Xanadu is great, Red Barchetta is great, By-Tor & the Snow Dog is great, Witch Hunt is great, The Weapon is great. Time Stand Still is not. And Rush did not need Amy Mann on any album.

[@MisterMikeTexas]

@@michaelrushlander7696 Amy Mann was still a nice touch on this song. I'm not married to one genre of rock or one era of any band.

[@hanksta34]

@@michaelrushlander7696 You probably don't like Roll the Bones title track than either. The Enemy Within or anything that didn't color within the lines.

[@argelbargel7680]

Milli Vanilli's second album was something of a disappointment after their masterful debut.

[@DoktorDamage]

LMAO

[@oneconsciousman1942]

yep it sure was, if only they would have trued to steal somebody else' music instead of just repeating the same thing they stole in the first place.

[@EattheApple666]

isn't it funny how such a big deal it was that they weren't singing but look at music today. How much autotune is going on.. isn't that the same as having someone else sing for someone who can't?

[@stringbender11672]

🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣omg hilarious!!!

[@alstrange6055]

Blame it on the rain...😁

[@christophernuzzi2780]

Rush is my favorite band, and I love Hold Your Fire. I think it is far better than some of their 90s work.

[@bmardon2112]

You buddy are a gem. Thank you for saying that, HYF gets way way way too much flack, I love the album frankly as much as I love all their work. Second Nature might actually even be my favorite Rush song period. Extremely unpopular opinion I have saying that as my favorite one, millions would disagree immediately with that statement but it hits home for me so too bad everybody. Good show, good to see some love for HYF

[@ProfessorGroyper]

Hold Your Fire is much better than Counterparts, which is 100% garbage.

[@tedregal2867]

Professor Groyper that's bullshit ! Counterparts has 4 good songs. VAPOR TRAILS is garbage !

[@pwoods100]

@@ProfessorGroyper Counterparts was actually the album that made me a fan. To each their own, I guess.

[@ProfessorGroyper]

@@tedregal2867 Vapor Trails has Earthshine, one of Rush's best songs.

[@donmoore7785]

"Then they release this piece of crap..." {dog barks loudly in agreement} ROTFL

[@williamlangan5902]

His dog should've growled instead! LOL

[@IvanHernandez-wm4jj]

I see Pete Pardo has his dog very well-trained. Ha ha ha ha.

[@progger53]

I was reading this as soon as it happened.😮

[@g.d.1722]

Disagree on Rush. "Hold Your Fire" stands up well to the test of time.

[@tildenkatz5581]

It's because it's the band softest album.

[@bmardon2112]

I've replied to another sticking up for HYF. Thank you buddy, I love this album I have no issue with it by any means necessary. Heck I loved the 80s Rush best, unpopular opinion as everyone always loves the 70s best, but that's me. Every Rush record for me has a majority of amazing songs I love, and the odd sleeper or 2 that I tend to skip (the key word is EVERY, each one has a song that I may not listen to much or at all not just 80s ones everyone picks on and tends to dislike more than the rest)

[@thestones2789]

many great songs on there

[@antonchigurh7820]

Hold Your Fire...the ONE shitty album by Rush

[@stevehovey70]

@@miketheyunggod2534 Distant Early Warning was on Grace under pressure album.

[@shirleymental4189]

What about albums you begrudgingly admit are great from bands you hate?

[@Gabesafish]

Hold on...you mean Kiss has good albums too??

[@billyreynolds4749]

Yup. They certainly do!! Most of Kiss's catalog is excellent! Unmasked is NOT a good album, and neither is Music from The Elder.

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

Their first self titled album is pretty good, sonis Hotter than Hell, but the production is shit.

[@theredraven]

"Alive", "Destroyer", "Rock and Roll Over", "Love Gun", "Alive II" and then in 1982 "Creatures of the Night" are all solid. Sure some of the lyrics are never going to be outclassing Neil Young or Bob Dylan but sometimes you just need something catchy and a big riff don't you? The Ace Frehley solo album from 1978 is really good too. The first three albums before "Alive" would be great too if it weren't for the fact the production means they sound like they were recorded in on a cassette which has been dropped into a tank of water.

[@davepugh2519]

I listened to Pete's No.1 Kiss album and thought it was awful. How can someone who likes Yes also like that crap?

[@theredraven]

@@davepugh2519 Because liking intellectually stimulating prog rock doesn't mean you can't enjoy stripped back rock and roll stuff? Or to put it another way, a good riff is a riff whether it's Rush playing it or the or a three chord punk act.

[@ZalMoxis]

I really like Never Say Die by Sabbath....

[@rogerorlando9516]

I love that album also . Thought it was better than technical ecstasy.

[@jukeboxcowboy]

Yep! @@rogerorlando9516

[@die2no]

Shock Wave kicks

[@bloodboughtbigphilr8266]

@@die2no So does Johnny Blade. All in all, only a slight improvement on the dire Technical Ecstasy predecessor which is their worst from the classic line up days.

[@bloodboughtbigphilr8266]

@Randy Henderson I always think of those forgettable albums as Tony Iommi solo projects. Have to admit that they make TE and NSD sound like masterpieces by comparison.

[@Wolfie66]

I remember hating Rush "Signals" when it came out. I gave it another chance years later and I now love it.

[@billydow9798]

Signals is by far my favorite Rush recording, Moving Pictures is second

[@sterioapple]

I hated it on contact. LOVED everything that came before. Went over to a cousins house to see if he got it. He had and had already put it on. And hated it. I like it a bit now though. I cant even put the ones after on. They turned a corner and kinda never came back.

[@sterioapple]

@ I'll have to put it on again.

sterioapple Cool...…………..do it! You won't be disappointed.

[@Rosbergen80]

@@sterioapple and what you think?

[@VantagePointrocks]

For me Hold Your Fire is a sensational album, so many melodic tunes on there that I can listen to over and over.

[@florentinosanzpastor9556]

Pure crap

[@egghuntpbs]

Man, I couldn’t disagree more about Hold Your Fire. Not only does it not sound dated, to me, it’s gotten better with time.

[@woogie88888]

I agree. The only rush album I didn't like was power windows.

[@ghendar]

@@woogie88888 Good lord, Power Windows is glorious! But yeah, Hold Your Fire is hardly a stinker. Roll The Bones on the other hand.......

[@michaelcottle6270]

Hold Your Fire is my absolute favourite Rush album. If you're looking for stinkers try "Test for echo" or "Vapor Trails"

[@heavyduty96]

@@ghendar Power Windows recently has become my favourite Rush album, Hold Your Fire is majestic stuff too!

[@s.hi.1076]

@@ghendar Power Windows is the best Rush album, Hold your Fire is the second best and Roll the Bones is the most underrated Rush album.

[@marhill77]

When Kerry Livgren left Kansas, Kansas as we knew and loved was over. He was the mastermind, song-writer and musical genius of the band

[@TmRnBn]

This is where I disagree with The Sea--I liked The Spirit of Things and didn't like Power. For their stinker, I would have used Vinyl Confessions. Livgren was certainly the center of the band, but his solo stuff didn't cut it. The first one had some worthwhile bits, but religion took precedence over music--kinda like what happened to Carlos Santana...

[@mattyboywalker9094]

I actually thought LIVE that is the 2002 touring line up was immense

[@dannymartinez9371]

Power was good and In the Spirit of Things has great songs and production just doesn't sound like Kansas. Even though Livgren contributed 3 songs to Drastic Measures, that is definitely Kansas' worst album.

[@tod3msn]

Totally agree. Kerry was the musical genius of Kansas. The band was absolutely fine without Steve Walsh but could not go on without Kerry.

[@tomstultz7506]

Agree 100%

[@metalbemyname]

From the band owner of my heart, Metallica: Load, Reload and St. Anger.

[@anfrankogezamartincic1161]

Don't forget LULU. I love LOU ant METALLICAs first few albuma but LULU put my patience on trial

[@yoiamhere4737]

The Load and Reload had some great songs and like every band, they just should have put all the best songs into one Load. And St Anger has some nice moments ruined by a trash production

[@yoiamhere4737]

@Bryan Mcfadden how so?

[@justincider4375]

I don't like the Load or Reload, but at least they were decent sounding rock albums. St Anger is just an absolute abortion from top to bottom.

[@danneilson7768]

Love sabbath's born again album very underrated I feel

[@agentxchannel6640]

'Born Again' is Amazing. so too, 'Drama' by yes.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

Born Again is not necessarily bad as such. But the combo of Sabbath and Gillan just didn't gel. Same as Paul Rogers and Queen.

[@dr.phibesinred6066]

@@ShanghaiRooster Sounds a bit like Deep Purple, doesn't it? But the album cover scared the shit out of me. It came out in the early 1980s and I was about 11 or 12. I think it's still one of the scariest covers of all times. Forget about Cannibal Corpse or Cattle Decapitation or any of that death metal crap. You don't get scary by going over the top. Sabbath's Born again or Uriah Heep's album with the giant snake mouth (sorry, I forgot the title) that's true horror for me.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

@@dr.phibesinred6066 1985 it was. I'm about ten years older than you, so can't say the cover induced any fear for me - laughter was more likely, it looked so cheap (to my eyes)! The Heep album might be 'Abominog', from memory? 😎 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abominog Not a snake, but pretty cool.

[@dr.phibesinred6066]

@@ShanghaiRooster No, it's not Aboming, maybe it isn't even Uriah Heep. It's a big green snake with its mouth open wide and a red throat trying to swallow the beholder. Kind of. Probably it's another band. Let me know when you find out. So will I.

[@steverogers2635]

Love to see a part two for this. This was great Pete!

[@alwaysamysteryyes2021]

I get what you're saying about Diver Down. I would always point out how its mostly covers and instrumentals. But the 4 originals are great! Especially Little Guitars and Secrets. You should have went with III-would have loved to have heard your rant on that!

[@davidbell1275]

I agree about Diver Down. It's not a bad album. It was a lazy effort and it followed the powerful Fair Warning. VH III is their worst album by far. Keep up the great work Pete.

[@defhoez449]

agreed....VH III was AWFUL...hey Eddie, just because you're a guitar legend, doesn't mean you're a good producer. The record sounds terrible with zero bass and screaming vocals with silly lyrics...wow, is it bad!

[@chrispineo1979]

"Diver Down" is pretty much an EP. Not just the length but the content. A few originals, some remakes, instrumentals, basically a hodgepodge.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Hey look here's some people taking a dump on VH3 how predictable.

[@rodsmolter5046]

Diver Down? That's a very underrated album IMO. Too many covers for sure but most of them are good, better than the originals, and there's 3-4 great original tunes on there as well.

[@raymondkizer1216]

Thank you for recognizing Diver Down.

[@IvanHernandez-wm4jj]

Nobody mentions Van Halen III with Rick Cherone on vocals. It´s such a stinker that Diver Down sounds decent, when you compare both albums.

Ivan Hernandez Sorry to be "that guy" but it's Gary Cherone.

[@hhill4227]

i love diver down!

[@isaccosilva7278]

@@raymondkizer1216 pure VH !

[@roberthyatt6230]

The Ace songs on Unmasked are great.

[@jasonveganicus7933]

💯

[@falconater68]

Absolutely.

[@CrazyLG72]

Talk to me is very commercial like most of the album ,that's why i love it ..Torpedo girl is just a cool fun cheesy tune but so catchy! Anton Fig is a big reason why I like this whole album

[@danweaver6053]

Naked City is awesome!

[@galus14436]

Unmasked is decent.

[@969thewhip]

Some of my stinkers: St. Anger- Metallica Risk- Megadeth Chinese Democracy- GNR Antenna- ZZ Top Presto- Rush Binaural- Pearl Jam Hellbilly Deluxe II- Rob Zombie

[@TheGrindhouse70]

lol Ruch

Master Totally agree!

[@Highrollinhunter]

As a fan of Megadeth I agree with risk I swear that album is worse than super collider it can put me to sleep because of how boring songs like crush em are also Ellefson was the only member to cut his hair he was the only one trying way too hard to be Metallica.

[@SethWorsham]

Risk was TERRIBLE...appropriately titled. I never even bothered with Super Collider. Thirteen wasn't anything special either that I can remember. I don't remember World needs a hero being worth much either, even with Al Pitrelli on it.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Totally disagree with Antenna. That album had a dirty, heavy guitar sound that was awesome. St. Anger is slamming and I thoroughly enjoye it still.

[@Danimal77]

I think The Final Cut is excellent. Very deep and introspective and haunting at times. That's cool though man. To each his own!

[@evanmoyer1562]

It's an underrated album, Not Now John is a jam, great Gilmour vocals

[@sharktroubles]

No Rick Wright.

[@JohnSmith-mx8wp]

+Evan It is underrated, but for me "Not Now John" is a stain on it. That said, I'll have to give it another listen.

[@sidneypasquarelli2122]

The final cut is a very good album indeed!

[@countdown2xstacy]

Dan Maler “Not now John” was the best song on the album

[@bwdrums1]

I'm as big a Roth era VH van as there ever was and I love 'Diver Down', would probably rank it my # 3 fav (behind VH ll and then VH 1). For sure it was rushed and kinda cobbled together , but I just love the originals ("Little Guitars", "Full Bug", etc.), they COMPLETELY made the covers their own, and , for a finale, they get Jan Van Halen to play clarinet with his boys and crank out one of the coolest covers ever put on vinyl, "Big, Bad Bill..."

[@johndef5075]

I like it alot too. Love the Kinks cover also.

[@EthanC_09]

It is a good album but how do you rank it above Fair Warning? To me, VH1 and Fair Warning are the two bests, then 2, Women and Children First, then 1984.

[@bwdrums1]

@@EthanC_09 Hey, I like what I like....lol....bottom line, you can't go wrong with any of them.

[@EthanC_09]

bwdrums1 hey man, no complaints here! Roth era VH is the greatest rock and roll band since Zeppelin in my opinion.

[@adamlosurdo2114]

I love Diver Down but I can't put it ahead of I, II, FW or 1984.

[@roblawhorne1015]

I loved early Renaissance. Annie Haslam's voice! And Jon Camp's bass was so lyrical, and actually served as lead on so many songs.

[@johnwilliamson3981]

How early? I believe Jane Relf was the band's original singer...and I suppose kin or spouse of Yardbird Keith. But back to stinker LPs from great bands...my vote goes to the unpalatable "Love Beach" from Emerson, Lake & Palmer.

[@Fizbin32111]

Can't agree with Final Cut. The original CD on headphones (or better yet, the original vinyl) is stunning.

[@ScottyKirk1]

Recorded in "Holophonic Sound". So was Pros and Cons actually.

[@rossross9281]

Big Thumbnails Suck for me it’s not that it’s not a good album it’s just the depressed mood that it leaves me in after a listen. For that reason I don’t listen to it very often and it can never become something that I love.

[@martinbroomhead2646]

What Floyd fans can't get to grips with, is that this album is Roger Waters finally coming to terms with his father's death at the Battle of Anzio. Hence its moodiness.

[@floyd75dylan]

Trouble with Final Cut was that none of the band members worked together, Wright resigned, Mason kept out of it, & Gilmore & Waters worked separately. It might as well have been a Roger Waters album.

[@ScottyKirk1]

@@floyd75dylan Wright was fired during the recording of The Wall, but stayed on as a salaried hired hand for the live shows. Even when he came back for AMLOR he wasn't an official member... I remember a funny pic in the tour book had him taking the back seat in a plane cockpit to Mason and Gilmour, driving the bus so to speak. FC can be pretty dreary, but Waters cuts to bone with his emotions throughout it. Title track is brutal. Too bad he had to put all of the Faulkland Island politics into it, which now dates it badly. The few Gilmour solos are top notch and can lift you up above the terrible sadness of it all.

[@patrickking2423]

St. Anger by Metallica no guitar solos and Lars Ullrich using trash cans as drums At least that"s what it sounded like. Yes Lulu was worse but that was more or less a side project.

[@rayjingloryproductions3770]

Most of us Musicians refer to it as "The PongPongPong Album". TOTAL --- SHIT --- !!!

[@of6594]

Lulu was a great Lou Reed album

[@s.hi.1076]

Lulu is the 2nd best Lou Reed album and the best Metallica album.

[@TheMentalblockrock]

St Anger is my 2nd favourite Metallica after the Black Album (obviously). A great underrated album, so raw and ANGRY!

[@Jack-52]

Constant Colours bahahahha what

[@jhutch888]

Just spun Never Say Die front to back after many many years, and it rocks pretty dang hard! Thank's Pete for reminding me the album exists ;P

[@lanemeyer9350]

Never say die is criminally beat up by people.. I LOVE that album

[@Aaron50001]

@@lanemeyer9350 So do I , the last three tracks are iffy but the rest great for me , Johnny Blade , Hard Road and the fabulous Juniors Eyes , Much better than Technical Ecstasy

[@treeduck3705]

Never Say Die is underrated in my opinion. Everything is good on there for me except those last two tracks.

[@folden2008]

I love Never Say Die great album

[@die2no]

Never Say Die is better than some bands best.For instance I rather listen to that than Hotel California

[@larrynolletti4594]

I love the whole album....I love Iommi's guitar on that jazz influenced riff on Breakout with the horns as it goes into Swingin' the Chain....awesome kickass track with Bill Ward on vocals....phenomenal...

[@2tough2die]

Great album. Much better then Technical Ecstasy or anything that came after Born Again.

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

Never Say Die did indeed suck, but Technical Ecstasy sucked even more.

[@jonathanmitchell9886]

I was just getting into Rush when *Hold Your Fire* was released, so I still have a soft spot for it. (Love "Open Secrets," especially that blistering solo.) But I get it--it's a long way from classic Rush.

[@lukedukey]

Amazing song. It kills me how people underrate hold your fire. It is the least approachable, but the most rewarding of all their albums

[@jonathanmitchell9886]

@@lukedukey Absolutely. I think that people often don't give themselves time to appreciate an album; if they don't like it immediately, they just dismiss it.

[@dferris7767]

Van Halen - Diver Down was the first VH album I ever bought. I had a friend that introduced VH to me through that album. Yes, I learned of the greatness of the earlier albums after that. But, this one has some cool moments in it too. "Cathedral", "Little Guitars" and as a young drummer I loved Alex's playing on this too.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Finally some love for the mighty, underappreciated and amazing Alex Van Halen.

[@GrahamS67]

Have to say I love "The final cut" Not pure Floyd but great Waters material.

[@jimmycampbell78]

I think it’s terrible but I dislike Waters’ solo material as well.

[@tepidtooth8539]

@@jimmycampbell78 I didn't really like it at first, but I starting finding parts that I like of it

[@peace__777]

@@tepidtooth8539 "Final Cut" has some decent moments, but overall, I could do without it. Its bookends were both LIGHTYEARS better. _The Final Cut_ was their "Hot Space," so-to-speak.

[@deathmetaldouglas69]

It sure beats those two turds that followed it. I find "Momentary Lapse of Reason" absolutely unlistenable.

[@peace__777]

@@deathmetaldouglas69 To each, his own. Personally, I liked "Momentary Lapse," but hey, that's just me.

[@josephcampbell9298]

The Final Cut is far from my favorite Floyd album, but I like it in sporadic spurts. Waters, again, decides to dedicate an album to the loss of his father in WW2, but the slowness of the album, to me, sounds more like a David Gilmour solo album, even though it's basically a Water's solo album with the rest of the band just following along.

[@soundsandvisionsHQ]

With Dream Theater "The Astonishing", those who hate it seem to hold the majority opinion. But I quite like it. Pettrucci and Rudess set out to make what is basically a piece of modern musical theater. It follows the same two act structure as "Phantom of the Opera", Jesus Christ Superstar", & "Les Miserables" - shows that Pettrucci has admitted were influences on "The Astonishing". The original plan, as Pettrucci told Prog magazine, was to present it like a theater piece with guest singers in costume playing the different roles (Which would make it much more like one of Ayreon or Clive Nolan's recent stage productions), plus set pieces/scenery on stage. There was also to be no encores. The whole of "Astonishing" was to be performed and nothing else, just as you would see in the musicals already mentioned. In "Phantom of the Opera" they do not finish the show and then come back for a few more songs from other, unrelated shows. And the audience was to receive handbills/programs as they would at a theater show. It would be a whole musical theater experience. This approach was abandoned/toned down to make it more like a Dream Theater album and concert, with Labrie singing all the character vocals and video screens replacing the physical set pieces. Many complain about the length, and this is understandable But 2 hrs. 15 mins. is actually pretty in keeping of the average length of a 2 act musical. "Les Miserables" is actually much longer at 2 hrs. 45 mins. There was also originally talk of it being made into a movie - perhaps a bit of grandiose thinking on Petrucci's part. But in the end what you got was a mishmash of the original full-blown musical theater concept and the flashy rock concert concept. I think if the album had been released with the name Dream Theater on the cover, and it had been titled something like "The Astonishing - A Musical by John Petrucci & Jordan Rudess" is might have been received in a totally different way. People that hate musicals would have been turned off no doubt, but many DT fans might have loved it as a one-off project that presented itself as a legitimate piece of musical theater instead of a slower-paced DT concert. I think that the piece as it was ultimately presented was just too much to hold the attention of a rock/metal audience who would have rather had a more traditional DT concert. I do think there is some great music in there for those who can deal with the lengthy running time

[@normanmorrow4897]

Hold Your Fire is worth it for Time Stand Still alone. Great lyrics, great music, great song.

[@Rosbergen80]

I love it

[@shizuokaBLUES]

Okay that is the song that redeems the album but didn’t you find the production values on that album poor?

[@psychopoison]

Mission is amazing

[@Smartie1]

Mission has top five Alec lifeson solo Prime mover is cool Time stand still - maybe my favorite Peart lyrics

[@normanmorrow4897]

@@shizuokaBLUES its not as bad as Vapour Trails, but I know where you're coming from

[@MrToband]

I never did like Diver Down either. Maybe a couple songs.

[@MisterMikeTexas]

What about "Happy Trails"? 😄

[@arloroan3168]

Little Guitars/Full Bug save that album for me. Definitely not their most creative point but the original material I think is very strong. IMO

[@bsicotte]

But "The Full Bug" is so good...one of my favorite VH songs of all time and tremendous rhythm guitar.

[@marinhrabric6162]

Full bug, Hang Em High and a few more songs

[@toddhill7483]

A few that come to mind. The Soft Parade by The Doors, Kilroy Was Here by Styx, it's Hard by The Who, NYC Ghosts and Flowers by Sonic Youth, and Synchronicity by The Police. (A favorite of many fans, but dead last for me)

[@GG-Wolfhound]

Pete as always great rant. I have to say Never Say die is dear to my heart. I realize it's not the best effort. considering Ozzy had one foot out the door and the boys were in really bad shape. no excuses. it happened to be the first Sabbath record that i purchased so having the 8 track in the car i burned it in to my memory cells!

[@JohnnyRecently]

Yes- "Open Your Eyes"...….Rush- "Test for Echo"...…..Genesis- "Calling all Stations...…..Pink Floyd- "The Final Cut"....Styx- Brave New World....Jethro Tull- Under Wraps

[@TheHumbuckerboy]

I quite like 'Under Wraps' although I do remember how much more I had really enjoyed their previous release ... 'The Broadsword and the Beast' .

[@noersang]

Crawford Glissadevil I like Calling All Stations. A little too long (as was We Can’t Dance), but some fine tracks on it.

[@noersang]

storeeteller1 Have to disagree. Like The Ladder, but Open Your Eyes is not boring.

[@noersang]

Open Your Eyes IS boring. Sorry.

[@billydow9798]

Christopher Bingham I love Styx Brave New World as well...too many tracks but a killer album...should of gotten way more attention than it did...way better than the turd they dropped called Cyclorama

[@stevenpluto7946]

I really liked this episode. How about underrated/under-preforming albums albums from the classic bands.

[@bernrudolph2422]

Hold Your Fire is a great album, Mission is my favourite song off the album. I have them all on vinyl.

[@508dac]

Totally agree. On the ending solo, Alex Lifeson puts so much emotion into it.

[@bernrudolph2422]

@@508dac I don't care what they think of there earlier stuff, still great stuff. Actually, all their albums are great.

[@pinkfreud62]

Hold Your Fire is a Rush fave for me, too, but Mission is my least fave on there. Just reminds me of an Army recruiting commercial.

[@allendoss1941]

@@bernrudolph2422 Whoe whoe Slow down lol Rush to moving pictures all great After that to me Just hand full of songs Subdivisions New World man Mystic rythoms That's it for me I really tried to like vapor trails Bought it Gave it away same day Only other album I did that with was Chinese democracy

[@bernrudolph2422]

@@allendoss1941 Whoe, just because you didn't care much for them albums, doesn't mean i shouldn't, eh? Power Windows blew me away, I played the hell out of that album.

[@leonardspinazzola6714]

Was expecting at least 1 of these Load/Re-Load/St. Anger.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

Here's the thing- was going to mention those, but completely forgot. Don't own any of 'em anymore. Load especially I wanted to mention, which was a complete turd after all the greatness that came before it.

[@unrulysimian3897]

V Ghost - I agree. Until DEATH MAGNETIC. That was two (2) decades of commercial crap. HARDWIRED is good too IMO.

[@JoeyRapps1]

Why does everyone hate St. Anger so much?

[@leonardspinazzola6714]

Is there a guitar solo on that album? How about the first 3 albums?

[@helgaratbone1691]

Leonard Spinazzola how about anything after and justice for all.

[@devildozer]

I begged my dad to buy me that Styx album when I was eight years old & it had just come out. I made the mistake of taking it to my cousin's house where one of my older cousins or all of them carved obscenities into the vinyl on both sides ruining it. It was brand new. The next album my dad bought me was Quiet Riot...that never left my bedroom.

[@fiveyen]

Ahh I loved Killroy Was Here - that was one of my go to albums back in the 80's. Just glad you didn't pick 'Tormato' for Yes. :)

[@ajvasta]

Or "Drama"

[@fiveyen]

@@ajvasta lol well... not quite as fond of Drama #NoJonAndersonNoYes - but yeah... :)

[@stephen1562]

I loved Tormato

[@buckeyeman7631]

Diver Down is one of my favorites from Van Halen. I'm not surprised you have a few stinkers that I actually don't consider stinkers, but nice job anyways!

[@raymondkizer1216]

It is a much maligned album but for me, 1984 blows as it was too poppy and commercial.

[@toddedwards5144]

Diver Down is the worst VH album, including the Cherone album and Different Kind Of Truth, which are both good. Diver Down is completely weak.

[@raymondkizer1216]

@@toddedwards5144 And 1984???

[@rightchordleadership]

Raymond Kizer The songs on 1984 that weren’t radio hits all kick ass.

[@randywissler9923]

Yes, it was pretty much a filler album, but I'll take it over the Gary cherone debacle any day!!!

[@rangerrick222]

Just love how Pete talks to us like we already know the counterpoints or the "whys" to his position or arguement because HE knows WE know the players and built-in logics from playing the same stuff for decades like him. He's so right! Love that 🤟

[@dabo7130]

Plenty on the ground, but Maiden X factor was a bit sad...Not for Blayze, he tried, but the songs, mix and level of surrender after members leaving.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

I actually love the album but I respect you for defending Blaze. His first solo album is killer.

[@drewsollars2239]

Love Diver Down. Little Guitars alone is worth price of admission. Pretty Woman and Dancing are good covers. It feels more like an ep than a proper album, it's fun and maybe a bit slight for VH, but for what it is it's great.

[@thomasdunleavy2378]

I fucking love diver down

[@MisterMikeTexas]

I'm not really into covers albums. Van Halen was better than that. 1984, far superior, and so was the Hagar era.

[@ih8kit]

The cover photo for "Love Beach" is terrible. Emerson, Lake and Palmer look like The Bee Gees in that photo.

[@MrDevtun]

Gotta say I give "Hold Your Fire" a regular spin in my car CD player. Of the ten songs the only one I don't like is 'Prime Mover'. Particular favorites are Open Secrets, Second Nature, and High Water.

[@TTommy90125]

For me, it's Tai Chan & High Water. If not for those 2 it would be my 3rd favorite behind MP & GUP.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

Meant Equator by Uriah Heep, not Equinox

[@edwardonsax9919]

About trying.. Mindcrime II, I tried so hard that I tried mixing the songs from 1 and 2 into a completely different order to tell a completely different story. I kinda started liking it....my way. Unmasked.. Kiss was always pop. Diver Down..agreed. Woman And Children First was awesom ethough. Rush didn't like Vapor Trails much but it was way better than Holed Your Fire to me Kilroy Was here but then DeYoung wanted to be another ELton John or Billy Joel

[@jubal238]

Diver Down was one of the first records I ever bought with my own money. As a 9 year old in 1982 "Intruder" totally blew my mind.

[@fredrios1402]

It was a kick ass album...little guitars, the full bug, secrets, where have all the good times gone, hang em' high,. All were classic, dump dancing in the streets and big bad bill, although it was cool that Jan van halen played on the album....even ' pretty woman ' was a kick ass, van halen attitude, single...still a VAN HALEN record....can't beat that!!!!🙋

[@scotthallo7735]

Absolute shit album!

[@seanswinton6242]

jubal238 For a 9 year old in '82 Diver Down was an acceptable introduction back then. The earlier albums while better, may have hit parents the wrong way. The guitar work was so great, it was scary. It was like when I discovered Jimi Hendrix.

[@jubal238]

@@seanswinton6242 yep I remember hearing Eruption on the radio around that time too and my older brother and I looked at each other like what the hell is this? Lol

[@seanswinton6242]

jubal238 Cable was only in my parents bedroom. I would watch MTV a lot, before reality shows became all the rage. My mom oddly enough liked the acrobatics of David Lee Roth (Jump) and the Talking Heads (Burning Down The House). I have all VH CDs until VH III with Gary Cerrone. That's the one that ended it for me. I thought Eddie Van Halen would have done a solo album by now.

[@bernrudolph2422]

The Final Cut is my favourite Pink Floyd album, plus it's a history lesson. Yea, I was in my mid teens then.

[@dodibenabba1378]

You can't have heard them all if that's your favourite! Try Meddle.

[@bernrudolph2422]

@@dodibenabba1378 I have them all, Final Cut is still my favourite.

[@tomstultz7506]

Seriously, I know to each his own, but Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, The Wall, and MLoR and Final Cut is your favorite? I just don't know how you got to that conclusion. Was Final Cut your first taste of Floyd? Because when you hear the one's I listed and then listen to Final Cut.....well...let's just say the odor is overwhelming. I was married to my first wife when Final Cut was released. Not bagging on you dude just trying to understand how Final Cut leap frogs over those others.

[@bernrudolph2422]

@@tomstultz7506 My first Floyd album I heard back in '73 was Dark Side. My first Floyd album I ever bought was either Atom Heart or Meddle back in '75. Final Cut really is just fantastic over the rest to me. You don't have to care much for it, I just love it.

[@tomstultz7506]

@@bernrudolph2422 Sorry your post stated you were a mid teen for Final Cut released in '83. Dark Side you heard in '73 which would put you at 5-7 years of age which is pretty cool. At 5 I was listening to Disney's The Aristocats lol....true. In '73 I was 10 my first Floyd album I didn't hear till I was 16, I was a late bloomer for Floyd. The Wall came first for me which led me to Dark Side and Wish You Were Here. '83 was a non musical year for me...first marriage but was right back to music in '84. I admit I've only listened to Final Cut a few times but I'm still on my first copy of that album. I'm on my 3rd copy of Dark Side and The Wall and 2nd copy of Wish You Were Here. But as others have stated everyone is different and there is no right or wrong answer to what is the best or worse. For me, I don't consider Final Cut as Floyd's best work. I also admit I cheat when it comes to judging a groups best or worst and use economics as a starting base line. Dark Side is still one of the top selling Albums/CDs in history which does carry weight with me. Keep the vinyl turning! Cheers.

[@gswithen]

I find that opinions of best or worst albums can depend a lot on when you discovered it or the circumstances. My favorite Genesis album is the self titled 1983 record. It's when I first got into them and the first vinyl of theirs I purchased. That same year I got Kilroy Was Here and still love it to this day. Hot Space has its moments but I definitely turn it down a bit while I'm in traffic if you know what I mean. I'm curious how you'd rank the Stones discography.

[@w-james9277]

Metallica - St Anger Iron Maiden - X Factor Megadeath - Risk Judas Priest - Demolition Black Sabbath - Forbidden

[@GordonHeaney]

Good list

[@martymartin2894]

X factor is a great album

[@eliotmccann2589]

@@martymartin2894 Virtual XI is worse.

[@heelstevenmaggle5615]

None of those albums are bad

[@Nightdare]

When X-Factor came out they had it on a listenpost at the record store, I really wanted to hear what Not-Bruce (😋) was capable of Thing is, the player only had "skip" not "search", so I'm standing there: 1, long intro,....when does the vocal start?, fuggit, skip to 2,.. again long intro, taking ages for the vocal to start, ok 3, FUGGING HELL another longass intro Long story of repetitive actions short: I actually walked out the store, never hearing one vocal, not that I was missing anything, got to hear it much later, and found Blaze simply wasn't the right singer for maiden, but that wasn't his fault Him aside, the whole production simply sounded bad

[@twikirobot6897]

Agree on most of these.....love The Final Cut however, and still listen to Unmasked as well.

[@CrazyLG72]

Unmasked is great! Its great listening music easy rock like the Eagles,Toto,Cars,Loverboy,Foreigner,the music that was on the radio in 1980..Thats what i love about it

[@curtc2194]

Would like to see you do a review of Hawkwinds extensive catalog. In Search of Space and Hall of the Mountain Grill...the absolute pioneers of space rock. Lemmy Kilmister playing base on Silver Machine is unequaled! RIP Lemmy

[@golddalek1961]

Pete. This man knows what he's talking about!! Hawkers gotta be done. Let's bring it!🤖

[@NP-ip3nj]

Never Say Die is a better album than Technical Ecstasy

[@die2no]

And N P I like your You Tube profile pic.

[@frankybhoy1495]

You Won't Change Me is a better song than anything on Never say Die

[@turefromfinland3264]

No it is. Technical Ecstasy is best Sabbath (Ozzy).

[@archie6962]

Yes it is !

[@rickleblanc8900]

@@turefromfinland3264 Master Of Reality is way superior to Technical Ecstasy imo. Technical Ecstasy is a good album, though

[@stevemccart9109]

I remember how frustrated I would get after hearing 1 or 2 cuts off an album ,buying it and finding out that the rest sucked

[@lesnyk255]

I second that. I remember hearing a Willie Bobo track from an LP called Giants that featured Carlos Santana, Neil Schon, Herbie Hancock, and others - and it was the only decent track on the album. The rest was tiresome filler as far as I was concerned. Classic bait & switch.

[@johnbray6352]

Aint it the truth!

[@markhunter8554]

There are two kinds of bands in this world: those whose best songs are released as singles and the album sucks and those whose singles only scratch the surface of their greatness.

[@Hamptainment]

I really enjoy Never Say Die but at the same time I can hear why youd call it a stinker, sooo different, yet still some great tunes

[@ChuckWasHere]

Funny. The Final Cut is one of my all time favorite albums and definitely my favorite PF album. Different strokes for different folks. Great video!

[@TMINE100]

My favorite as well.

[@squareeyedgit]

Re Hot Space: the live version of Staying Power from Milton Keynes is great!

[@georgenoriegajr]

Iron Maiden -- Virtual XI As much shit as the 2 Blaze albums get, "The X Factor" was not bad; Sign of the Cross, Lord of the Flies, Man on the Edge, Look For the Truth, Judgment of Heaven, The Unbeliever are all really strong tunes, plus the production on the album is not bad. I always thought that if Bruce Dickinson had sung on the album, it could have easily surpassed No Prayer for the Dying and Fear of the Dark (which, once you take out Be Quick or Be Dead, Afraid to Shoot Strangers and the title track, could easily be considered a stinker) in the Janick Gers era. Virtual XI on the other hand... good Lord, that album is just putrid. Futureal rocks to open, The Clansman is a classic befitting any Maiden era, but the rest of the album is just garbage, pure filler devoid of any of the catchiness and hooks from previous Maiden albums. It's like Steve Harris kept waking up on the wrong side of the bed day after day while recording the album.

[@mr.d.572]

1st Black Sabbath I bought as a naive kid was "Technical Ecstasy." HORRIBLE! One good song on it. WAY worse than "Never Say Die."

[@rockandrollmd541]

I agree, Technical Ecstasy was trash...especially the song "It's Alright" with Bill Ward on vocals.

[@ILikeGoils]

@@rockandrollmd541 That's my favourite song on that album, but I agree - the whole thing is probably their weakest one.

[@markhunter8554]

@@ILikeGoils Weakest for the original band at least.

[@ILikeGoils]

@@markhunter8554 Yeah, that's what I meant. Forbidden is waaaay worse.

[@uriah768ok]

In the Spirit of Things sounds much more like Kansas to me than Power did. Ghosts is great, as are Inside of Me, The Preacher, and Bells of St. James. Classic? No, but I think you might want to give this another listen.

[@peterraymond8470]

I like ELP's Love Beach, but I totally get your critique of it. I thought In The Hot Seat was worse, but that album was so under the radar that it didn't even chart and I doubt a lot of people even remember it. Love Beach came out while they were still a high-profile band commercially. Styx's Kilroy Was Here and Queen's Hot Space were two albums I tried really hard to like.

[@genwcd91]

Hold Your Fire is a great Rush album , their most uplifting in my opinion.

[@superrushfan3]

i agree but the last three are side "c" for some.

[@giorgoss4410]

@@superrushfan3 clockwork angels is top 5 rush albums imo

[@stephenadamsmusicalinterpr4203]

Savatage's "Fight For The Rock" is considered to be their not so hot. Thankfully "Hall Of The Mountain King" "Gutter Ballet" and "Streets: A Rock Opera" were subsequent releases.

[@keithholm7493]

I'm actually one of the few Savatage fans that loves that album. Hyde, Wishing Well, Red Light Paradise, the cover of "Day After Day" I love it. To me everything after Streets is worse. I won't accept anything not Jon Oliva. The JOP albums and Oliva solo album were far far better albums than anything Savatage did after Streets.

[@Doobie1975]

What are your opinions on Foreigner's "Agent Provocateur" and "Inside Information" albums? Me I thought they were mediocre albums compared to their first 4 albums although their two singles "I Want To Know What Love Is" and "Say You Will" were on par with their best singles.

[@rustykuntz94]

I liked Never Say Die more than Technical Ecstasy but both those albums were Sabbath on a down turn

[@WCSkills]

RE: The Final Cut. More of a Roger Waters album and Another Brick part 2 without the hits. You have to be in a certain place in life to get into the depressing theme. And it's more of a 'headphone album' as opposed to a group listening album.

[@barryengle12666]

I kinda agree with this, while I also agree with its inclusion on the list. I personally like this once in a while, its definitely a "headphones and sit in a dark room" listen

[@timfennell1310]

one of my favorites but won't argue with you guys. A sit in the dark, headphones on and drink scotch right out of the bottle album. I think of it as Roger's alternative to therapy - resolving the loss of his father at a young age.

[@Vader1138]

I agree with Pete on this. Love almost everything Floyd but TFC is just unlistenable for me and I get into depressing melancholy songs. Waters was great when he worked with the others and they counterbalanced him which we know was not the case here. This was just Waters at his worst.

[@toddedwards6383]

You nailed it.

[@b2tall239]

Heartily agree with "The Final Cut" and "Hold Your Fire", with Rush and Floyd being arguably my 2 favorite bands. Final Cut is just a bloated exercise in misery and self-pity. I'd substitute "Technical Ecstasy" instead of "Never Say Die" although the latter is clearly not one of the band's better efforts either.

[@plasticposse768]

I agree with almost all of these, but I have always really liked In the Spirit of Things - Steve Morse is strong, and Bob Ezrins production sounds good to me.

[@pdog5731]

I'll take Diver Down over any Sammy album, even 5150, which was the first and the best of his tenure with VH. Thing about it is, I've been a Hagar fan from a long time back and love all his solo work. Its just after 5150, Van Halen turned into a big bowl of green jello; spewing out ballads for max airplay and big paychecks. The Van Halen name has just been a shell of what it was for at least the past 3 decades. Oh well, at least we did get 6-7 good albums out of them before they imploded!

[@markhunter8554]

I haven't liked anything by Yes since Going for the One. I also agree with your opinion on Love Beach and Hot Space.

[@JeffTheHokie]

ELO- Discovery. That was when Jeff Lynne fired his string section and went full disco.

[@michaelcottle6270]

Disco? Very.

[@dougmedina4619]

I was looking forward to this release in high school and was pissed when I bought it. Total crap.

[@alexjohnston8889]

Hot space is Queen's worst album.

[@ThreeToBeExact]

Queen made a good album?

[@DerUfen]

I would say it's slightly below par. I still love it, though. Staying Power, Body Language, Cool Cat, love those tracks.

[@die2no]

Kind of Magic is horrible too.

[@skridtractor875]

'Put Out the Fire' & 'Calling All Girls' are the only tracks I like from that one.

[@of6594]

@@ThreeToBeExact Their début album was great, but it was downhill from there.

[@gregorboca90]

1.St. Anger by Metallica 2. Risk by Megadeth 3. In Through the Outdoor by Led Zeppelin 4. The Final Cut by ¨Roger Waters.¨ 5. Flash Gordon by Queen

[@MRB16th]

The Final Cut was effectively a seven song album, as others were left off The Wall due to time constraints of vinyl. The Final Cut - by Roger Waters, performed by Pink Floyd.

[@gregorboca90]

@@MRB16th I know, but it was a Roger Waters solo work. That¨s why the other band members had an argument with him, and decided to left the band.

[@caramanico1]

So glad you didn't include "In Through The Out Door" - the worst of Zeppelin was still far better than the best of almost everybody else. Perfect calls on "Love Beach," "Camera Camera," and "Open Your Eyes."

[@docvince1491]

“Life is Real” is also a good song from Hot Space.

[@mcleanblades9234]

Love Beach is worth getting just because it has "memoirs of an officer and a gentleman". One of my all time favorite songs. Listened to it hundreds of times. The other songs on that LP are not so great. Including Canario.

[@mr7354]

i love the Final Cut, but i'm into Roger Waters depressing dribble LOL the follow up to The Wall would never have a chance!

[@brucemcdonald1114]

The Wall was the end of Pink Floyd for me. One listen and never again.

[@TmRnBn]

@@brucemcdonald1114 Animals was the last GREAT floyd LP, and even that was largely a Waters production--but the rest of the band had a greater say and made it better than Raving and Drooling and You've Got to Be Crazy--what made the best PF albums was taking them on the road for years to perfect every note. They didn't do that with The Wall, and it shows..

[@WendyMcCor696]

You are all out of your fucking minds The Wall is a great pink floyd album.....you all smoking too much shit !!

[@markhunter8554]

@@TmRnBn Animals at least sounds like it was recorded by a band. From the Wall onwards everything has been either a Roger Waters or David Gilmore solo album and Pink Floyd in name only.

[@chrisbullock1569]

Every once in awhile I have an opinion which is such an outlier from everyone else it amazes me. That said, I am one of the few who actually thought Music From the Elder (Kiss) is one of their best albums. The reason is not because it's not goofy (it is), or a concept which looked like a movie soundtrack but had none (it did). Rather, it 1. set some ambitious goals different from their normal albums and 2. musically met them quite well with better thought out lyrics and instrumentation than they typically put effort into. I credit Bob Ezrin for this. It flopped because the typical Kiss fan (the ones who remained after many bailed from their disco turn in Dynasty) wanted the usual thoughtless recycled stuff. I get that because I like their rock out tunes, but also appreciate something different with this one. I continue to enjoy many tunes on the album.

[@markc5771]

Yeah it was a good album, I agree. The problem with Kiss is there is a sort of "live by the sword and die by the sword" thing going on. In other words, Kiss is a brand. The brand is being sold as four guys in futuristic costumes playing goofy rock music. You cannot take a brand of "guys in costumes playing goofy music" and then put it on the shelf where "progressive rockers" are supposed to be. The two do not go together. One will have to give way to the other... King Crimson and Yes are not giving way to "four guys in costumes playing goofy music"

[@Mandilore89]

I was shocked when Evergrey suddenly was mentioned since most people who know the other bands you mentioned typically never heard of Evergrey. I agree Monday Morning Apocalypse is a weaker album since Tom went on record of using a more well known producer instead of producing it himself (at this point, Tom only produced Inner Circle. Andy LaRoque produced the other ones before it). I still think its a great album in its own right but it did grow on me overtime. I felt songs like "I Should", "Still in the Water", "The Dark I Walk You Through", "Till Dagmar", "I Should", "Obedience", etc are classics. I used to bash on it but one day, I realized how good it was. I actually messaged Tom, Rikard, Henrik, and Jonas when I did (several members know who I am. Rikard always says my first name when he sees me lol)

[@MrSplat1972]

Led zeppelin~Coda Not only did it feel Like a souless industry cash grab it was over dubbed as well as over produced. they pieced together all the cuts that didnt make the cut on previous albums and Just threw them together . There a couple of decent tracks but it lacks the zeppelin quality of greatness from start to finish .it was the death knell

[@Damaged262]

Seriously, it was a suicide for a band that had already given up, they reached the highest stars and knew they couldn't reach any higher, it was a time to die.

[@bobthebear1246]

Oh God, yes. The only good thing is that none of us true Zep fans even count that as a Zep album. And nor should we. Absolutely shameful, it was. Yes, it was.

[@Damaged262]

@@bobthebear1246 It counts to me, since they actually made an effort to create it, but I'll also give them a pass. I've never phoned in a day at work, but then again, everything I've done NEVER required that level of creativity. If only, I'd have been hugely grateful to take a record off if all my previous work was viewed as god like. I'd bet if they'd released that in '72, we'd probably all have a different view of it.

[@villain68]

It was a way for Atlantic to make some more money from the band. They dug up some old tracks that didn't appear on any of their studio albums. Put them together and make a few bucks. The band disbanded a couple years earlier and I knew it wasn't a studio album but a few songs weren't bad. Coda was just a compilation album that came out after they were done.

[@FrostedSeagull]

@@villain68.. You are a Zeppelin fan who knows the story. Jimmy Page HAD to put it out due to contractual obligations. They owed Atlantic an album. It sold 2 million copies at that time.

[@Doobie1975]

My brother also dislikes Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" as well and he's a huge Pink Floyd fan, I do like the song "Not Now John" though despite it not being one of PF's best efforts, I thought "Never Say Die" was an okay album by Black Sabbath but their glory days of the original lineup was behind them.

[@IvanHernandez-wm4jj]

I got mixed thoughts about The Final Cut, actually.

[@AverageGuy9722]

Had no use for Mindcrime II when it came out. Went back to it a couple of years ago and really like most of it. A few songs drag and I don't like how the album closes, but it's actually one of their more progressive albums in some ways. And that duet with Dio is worth the price of admission alone. Also, if you come in with the right mindset, Giant for a Day has a number of really good tunes (guilty pleasure?). IMO.

[@arklowrockz]

"Hard Road" on Never Say Die is a Sabbath classic

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

I agree

[@mickblack2800]

As is Johnny Blade, Tony & Bill let rip & tear the world a new arsehole, Iommi's solo is UNBELIEVABLE, NSD is a great album.🕇🤘🕇

[@conjunctionfunctions]

I love Never say Die, if you want a stinker out of that lineup, Technical Ecstacy was horrid

[@horrorstateofmind2724]

both Technical and Die are not that great but they are still a good listen

[@markhunter8554]

Black Sabbath's attempts to get on the radio (it didn't work).

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

TE is solid if you approach it as a more mainstream 70's hard rock album instead of expecting it to be the sort of heavy and doom-laden record that the band typically put out in the early 70's.

[@JRobsonGuitar]

Gary Moore... "After Hours". I was blown away by Still Got The Blues, but it's sequel lacked the spontaneity, verve, enthusiasm & grit of it's predecessor.

[@kenboughton9252]

CCR "Mardi Gras" Example of too many cooks, spoiling the pot.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

Yes, when the boss let the hod carriers write the songs! 😂

[@Arfshesaid457]

Oh man that album is painful in places. “Sail Away” for one.

[@broncodeviltexas]

One of those being Stu😀

[@markhunter8554]

One critic called it the worst album released by a name group (of course there's been many more contenders for that title since).

[@DavidMorley]

Never say Die has some amazing stuff on it!

[@dgbelcher]

Only one dud track Breakout, the rest is awesome.

[@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns]

Junior's Eyes is one of Sabbath's best songs, but it's a terrible album, though not as bad as technical ecstasy.

[@dgbelcher]

@David Topchiev Sabotage is my favourite Sabbath album, Ozzy sounded his best on that, he'd struggle to sing any track off that album now.

[@adamlosurdo2114]

@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns Junior Eye's is a special tune, man

[@coolkid9967]

I do like final cut but One of my main fascinations with Floyd is their WWII related content so it’s sortof a given. Many of the songs originally were intended for the wall but members other than Roger thought it to be too personal, likely a correct assessment. You definitely hit it by saying the moodiness is the appeal though haha.

[@needfoolthings]

The Tool albums between 10,000 Days and Fear Inoculum were stinkers all around. Forgot every song on them...

[@SimmerNServe]

13 years of forgettable albums. How many bands can do that and still be relevant? I agree, Fear Inoculum helped return them to form.

[@Highrollinhunter]

Tool is boring I never understood the hype for them I'm just not into tool I do like Progressive Metal when it's mixed with Thrash Metal and Death Metal because it makes it fun alone Prog is hard to get into for beginners. I'm into Thrash Metal and Death Metal but Death mixes Prog well with Death Metal spiritual healing is my favorite Death album.

[@Morn__]

I could’t disagree more, I love both of these albums

[@needfoolthings]

@@Morn__ I think you completely misunderstood my comment. Read again. "...between..."

[@yadigjamesgang-xs7jj]

Pert's lyrics on the song, Time Stand Still, are very poignant. I like the Music as well.

[@lukedukey]

Dude, lyrics alone on Hold Your Fire rule! Lots of passion on that album. After all this time, I think it is now one of my favs... I appreicate your other rants though! LOL

[@allkindsofthings673]

Psycho Circus, Carnival of Souls, Hot In The Shade are much more stinkers than Unmasked.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Hot in the shade is good

[@barques95]

The Final Cut sounds better when you accept that it's the first solo album from Roger Waters.

[@SydBarrettArchives]

It's more of a Floyd album than Momentary or Division Bell is, at least Waters wrote the songs and lyrics, can't say the same about the other 2 albums. Also, by even your idea, it would be his 2nd (Music from the Body 1970).

[@barques95]

@@SydBarrettArchives Since we're splitting hairs here, Music from the Body was a soundtrack collaboration with Ron Geesin. Further, Gilmour, Wright, and Mason were session musicians on it. Consider it a solo album if you like.

[@cognitivedissident2881]

@@SydBarrettArchives The Final Cut is not better then A momentary lapse of reason, not by a long shot.

[@atlasking6110]

It's a total piece of excrement either way.

[@willhous19]

I don't know what it is but I LOVE Hold Your Fire (Tai Shan excepting), and my heart sank when you held that one up to be honest. I would have agreed with the Presto choice for this though.

[@moparbryan]

I’ve always wondered if when some bands are in the studio is there someone like an engineer that is thinking this is “this is gonna be the St Anger for these guys and no one is telling them”