The Taiwan Trap

[@WilliamFang173]

The downside for Taiwan of the porcupine strategy is the cheaper missiles only work in close ranges. For example the Javelin is good for about 2.5 KM (public info). This means mainland forces have already landed on Taiwan or are about to. I would think Taiwan doesn't want the mainland forces to ever get that close. The US may wish Taiwan would drag mainland forces into urban warfare. But nobody in their right mind wants an urban warfare in their own home town.

[@Chemicalkinetics]

Taiwan may not want to, but the other strategy will no longer work because Taiwan can never match China in term of ship-for-ship, tank-for-tank. China has at least 10X more large military weapons than Taiwan.

[@DontUputThatEvilOnMe]

They also have harpoon missiles for anti ship those are fairly long range.

[@时零清风]

but kids in taiwan will😢

[@snarky5341]

Taiwan should surrender.

[@louisd6410]

Yes, it shows Taiwan is just a chess piece for USA

[@johnchiu]

Awesome video. As a Taiwanese person, I hope that some day soon, the world can see Taiwan as the wonderful place that it is, instead of just an anti-China talking point. In the mean time, thank you for shining a light on us!

[@Nitrocrazy101]

tho it looks like we dont need u guys, we definitely need u people

[@ellenripley4837]

Taiwan seems like a wonderful place to visit. It's on my list. Hopefully you will remain independent.

[@BlueHawkPictures17]

It is a wonderful place ❤

[@VictorYami]

@@tao2869lol no matter what regime falls, nothing will change, that is the nature of life

[@Rightonrightoff]

No one cares about Taiwan. You will continue to be used as a tool to expand American hegemony. Taiwan’s only sole purpose is to be used by America to confront and neutralize the rise of China. A racist euro American world order is trying to ensure the utter and complete domination of the world by white people of European origin (with approved assistance by Asians and others.) Nothing more and nothing less.

[@MKC11700]

There's a lot more behind what weapons the US has sold and has not sold to Taiwan - your video paints a picture that US in the past has sold Taiwan most the advanced weaponry it requested, but that is simply not the case. In fact, US-to-Taiwan arms export track record is unique in many aspects due to the Taiwan Relations Act and this could have been explored more in this video. Few examples: M60A3 MBTs sold during the 80s and 90s were considered to be the last of its long lineage; the F-16s procured around the same time were old A/B variants; and Taiwan is most likely never going to be able to procure F-35s and will likely have to settle for the F-16Vs.

[@Rock_Appreciator]

Well said. If the U.S. isn't directly involved in active combat, they will not be giving out top notch stuff. Even with the situation in Ukraine, many countries U.S. included, gave them hand-me-downs for equipment. It's extremely rare to see NA or EU handing out top notch gear, from what I have seen.

[@Fractured_Unity]

The US would most likely have to formally enter an alliance again with Taiwan for them to get F35s. That’s why South Korea, Japan, Aus, and NZ get them even though they aren’t in NATO.

[@felisasininus1784]

​@@Fractured_Unity Yeah.. Please do that. Lord knows Taiwan ain't the only ones that wanna get their mitts on some shiny F-35s. And lord only knows that we'd love to show those Anglo-Jewish c**ts what modern warfare reeeally looks like. 🤠🥴🥴 Sincerely and provocatively, Bureau of Tactical Intimidation, P.R. China

[@dcc70]

I think US is being judicious in selling the latest generation weapons to Taiwan because the high likelihood of Chinese spy infiltration of the Taiwan military. A current KMT lawmaker was recently reported to have leaked details of the indigenous submarine to foreign agents.

[@saosaqii5807]

@@Rock_Appreciatornone of the major weapons exporters, export their top notch stuff. No way that would happen. Not even Russia does it with their best S400 and S500 SAMissiles. The US isn’t exporting their best planes either with the F35. It’s actually the F22 which has better stealth capabilities which is why it’s not for sale.

[@BlocksandBoroughs]

The vox to independent KZbinr/journalist pipeline is producing amazing work, very inspiring!

[@official-lejio]

DUDE I WAS LIKE I KNOW THIS VOICE FROM SOMEWHERE

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

I knew his voice sound familiar

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

​@@official-lejiosame lol

[@Cybersawz]

Top tier!

[@levelazn]

It’s great cia content

[@randallheather3077]

Everyone seems to forget that Japan, with one of the largest modern navies in the world, has committed to supporting Taiwan and they don't need to sail very far to get involved. Given the size of the build-up necessary to move 100,000-200,000 PLA soldiers around 100 miles over open ocean (a 12 hour journey) largely using unarmed commercial shipping, Taiwan-Japan-USA should have plenty of time to position themselves, quite apart from the fact that due to seasonal sea conditions there are only two brief weather windows per year when a crossing is practical. Oh yes, and remember that the PLA hasn't fought a proper battle (and when it did, very poorly) in over 40 years and amphibious combined operations are the most difficult thing for a military to pull off, especially given how siloed the different branches of the PLA are.

[@robertedwards2959]

If I remember right Japan isn't officially committed to protecting Taiwan. Or assisting American forces to defend Taiwan. They have the same strategic ambiguity that America does.

[@aeris5142]

@@robertedwards2959the last administration was actually extremely clear in their wording. It came as quite a surprise actually.

[@robertedwards2959]

@@aeris5142 if you're talking about former Prime Minister Abo Shinzo's comments, those came after he stepped down.

[@keyboardmanyoutube3189]

@@aeris5142 it’s just lip service and you believe it? Why Japan want to fight a nuclear power over Taiwan ?

[@o-wolf]

​@@robertedwards2959and he got his noggin blwon off too IIRC 💀 Thing is even if Japan DID promise to help with this ever shifting landscape itd ve suicidal to depend on a any natuon getting between the two chinas, Big China doesn't WANT to invade or kill any Little China residents or it would've and could've gone in years ago, but at the rste theyre arming and the level of technology involved, i cant see them holding back if America keeps pushong the issue, and sfter what happened to Ukraine where the western world gassed them and the gullible public knto thinking theyre sone david toppling a Goliath but in reality they've been steadily losing ground and men mirrors whats likely to happen to Taiwan, especially when trump is the one st the wheel, his abandonent of the Kurds shows he is very unreliable and likely to leave the Taiwanese to it, with the only overseas "loyalties" hes expressed sofar being to Israel, or stleast to his son in laws cockamamie plans for israel anyways

[@22carmoon]

Graphics are great in these videos, well done Sam!

[@HannibalBarca137]

This is amazing, please make more videos like this like about Taiwan, keep this amazing work!

[@robertedwards2959]

This is not amazing. I'm not even sure this qualifies as surface level information.

[@DavidWoods255]

I've missed your work Sam - so glad you're back. You and Atlas were always the very finest content that Vox ever produced. I'll never miss an upload.

[@rsiow2]

The porcupine strategy sounds like an extension of the US' non-committal strategy. After watching this video, I am 100% certain Taiwan is on it's own and it would serve it's interests not to export the cutting edge of their semiconductor manufacturing to stay relevant and important enough to warrant intervention.

[@sinoroman]

USA uses the island as a place to spy and potentially block China. The island is a US protectorate after all.

[@felisasininus1784]

@@jeremyjackson7429 Like hell the US is going to allow Taiwan to continue developing chip tech outside of US soil. TSMC is not even in Taiwan anymore! ...what are y'all smokin'? Tide powder?

[@oaklandblocks]

Why do you think USA wants to build chip fab manufacturing? They know Taiwan is doomed.

[@迈德尔]

豪猪计划只会让台湾死得更惨烈，就像现在的以色列疯狂报复一样🤣

[@Jry088]

Actually the opposite. The porcupine strategy is the most cost efficient way to defend. It's hard to match the number of the Chinese military so building up missiles is a great way to offset that. Most of the 2 nano and 3 nano meter chips are only produced in Taiwan. Taiwan is way more important to the US than you think. It is the key to containing China

[@eddieiing3697]

The Republic of China wasn't set up in 1949 after the Nationalists arrived in Taiwan. PRC was established in 1949. The Republic of China was established in 1912 with the 1911 Revolution (10/10/1911) led by Sun Yat-Sen, the first provisional president of the ROC and eternal Nationalist leader. The ROC (Taiwan) still celebrates October 10th as National Day. PRC observes October 10th as Xinhai Revolution anniversary but doesn't celebrate it as a public holiday. Just as a "historical event".

[@julioduan7130]

He is deliberately misleading.

[@felisasininus1784]

​@@julioduan7130 I think he just meant RoC as we know it for the longest time up to today. He doesn't strike me as a dishonest reporter. Unlike Johnny F**king Harris.

[@nelsoncheng2674]

@@julioduan7130yes he is, he must have been influenced by the Taiwanese separatists. What a weak-minded KZbinr trying to twist history for narrative.

[@jameschen2707]

100%!! His history lesson was totally wrong.

[@scotttild]

I don't give a shi& what the history is. If the people of Taiwan want to be independent of China it is a fundamental human right. UK gave HK back to China because they had a treaty and were obligated to do so. HK could vote for independence and China would have no legal right to rule over it. Kings and Queens around the world are also illegitimate and have no bases or legal right to rule, heritage alone does not give them any right.

[@richmondlorejo]

I kept seeing how China will invade Taiwan and never how can Taiwan defend it's borders. So, its a nice thing to see another perspective in this issue

[@farsiga2899]

Both U.S. Presidents Bush and Biden have said: "We will defend Taiwan" should China invade in 2027. Japan too has threatened military intervention against China with Japan's largest military build-up in over 75 years!

[@TheLucidDreamer12]

Frankly, this is a no-one-wins position for every major party involved China either wins a completely destroyed island or loses a humiliating defeat Taiwan will be razed to the ground win or lose And America loses many advantages Taiwan would've offered intact in case of war with China and the bulk of its semiconductors And the whole world loses a major semiconductor supplier either way The best case still for all is that things stay the way it's been for decades

[@1986fritzthecat]

​@@TheLucidDreamer12I mean, the best case is some sort of final diplomatic resolution to the 2 chinas where they can coexist

[@jammaschan]

@@jeremyjackson7429 that's what China's trying to sell to Taiwan, but it's evidently not working when you look at Hong Kong. China just isn't willing to do two systems.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@jammaschanthey'll do it for a bit until they feel they have enough support or less resistance to enact on it

[@shanewalker3273]

The battleship graphics are so good! Give your editors a raise

[@joefish4466]

Those BATTLESHIPS, with 16 inch and 18 inch guns. There was movie called Battleship (2012). LOL. Some people hate AI, but I would argue that a proof reading by AI could have picked up on the error.

[@delanofernandes6471]

the stupid part is were china is not so un advanced is they think liktw 1970, and china military budget is not 290 billion cause pla rocket force and coastal force and military technology research budget is not included, task n purpose on KZbin goes deep into this and said their actual military budget is 500 Billion. if you ask me there are other ways china can criple Taiwan instead of sending meat waves, for example their massssive drone and missiles production, they probably have enough drones and missiles to make Taiwan look luke surface of the moon

[@alekxi]

Very insightful keep up the good work search party

[@damonhawkes2057]

Great video, I have a nitpick which is you referred to battleships multiple times. A cursory research into modern navies would show, battleships became irrelevant in world war 2. You may be using the term in place of the more general “warships”, which nowadays is mostly destroyers and aircraft carriers. There is no such thing as a “modern battleship”.

[@jamesholden5664]

Um we used a battle ship during the Gulf War with great effectiveness. They revamped and upgraded the Missouri. Ask the Dug in Iraqi troops how it felt when they were founded with 16inch guns.

[@mouse3872]

​@@jamesholden5664that's true but that was also nearly 30 years ago and the Missouri has since been retired permanently with no plans to bring it back into service. And no modern Navy has any plans to design or build a Modern variant of Battleship.

[@sebastien3351]

I think "combat ship" is a more general but, accurate term instead of battleship!

[@nathanhenry2347]

Also, the porcupine defense was created hundreds of years ago. Make attrition too great for your enemy to attack you has been a staple of geopolitics forever but this channel makes it sound like it was just invented by the US for Taiwan

[@dylanc8518]

​​@@jamesholden5664 Boomer comment. That was 35 years ago.

[@leoh7179]

As Taiwanese former military soldiers. This video it’s really useful by offering the US viewpoint on weapons purchases.

[@robertedwards2959]

It's not even really the American viewpoint. It's just what some planners have thought at times.

[@LipiokTan]

Taiwanese here. Thanks for covering this.

[@felisasininus1784]

​@@jacobl5488 hhhhh 😂 好样的

[@felisasininus1784]

​@@jacobl5488 不知道同志你是那个部门的，我10年前开始是挑拨离间部的，现在是战恐局的（狗头）

[@legokingtm9462]

China is number one

[@felisasininus1784]

@@legokingtm9462 Thanks, though not yet. But don't need to be to reunite with Taiwan.

[@serdavosseaworth6115]

@@legokingtm9462number one at intellectual property theft.

[@FahimFerdoushChayon]

I love your work, Sam. Keep going. All the best.

[@chrisbaker1794]

Loving this channel. Thanks friends.

[@ronaldhunt7617]

No country operates "Battleships", you meant warships most likely. I believe a hybrid strategy would work best, Chinas largest problem in an invasion is that it does not have the sealift capability to take Taiwan so any landing ship lost decreases the odds of success of any attempted landing.

[@dailyrant4068]

Landing ships can be easily built... it's literally just a floating flat top. Look at their designs and you'd realize it's easy. They just chose to spend their money on more advanced platforms like type 75 because they no longer employ "human wave" tactics like they did back in the day. If the invasion was like 70 years ago, you'd be looking at fishing boats crossing, for real. Also, in emergency time they will summon all the civilian ships and cargo ships, carrying troops is not a problem

[@ronaldhunt7617]

@@dailyrant4068 Right, but overlooking some key points. It takes time to build ships, and using civilian ships would mean bringing them in from whatever they were doing (they do have roll-on-roll-off ferries made to be used for that purpose). But if you do not think we watch shipyards or would notice this taking place you have not thought it through. You also do not want just a hull and a deck because the troop carriers are going to be a prime target. The normal calculation is 3-1 for attacking a defensive position but for an amphibious invasion against an enemy that has 75 years to dig in and fortify I would say 5-1 would be a bare minimum. You just do not need troops, you need supplies and equipment as well which goes up as time goes on while capacity goes down with ship losses and the need for reinforcements. China is not going to "sneak up" on Taiwan, they can not just decide to go tomorrow. It will take months to prepare, assemble, and then "go". Inchon took the US 6 months and that is with already having the ships, an unopposed landing, and LOTS of experience which means they would find Taiwan waiting and the US able to surge the Navy and Air Force into position, build coalitions, and fire a shot across the PRC's bow with threats of sanctions and blockades.

[@robertedwards2959]

​@@dailyrant4068you're talking about landing craft which operate from ship to shore not across 100 miles of ocean 14:05 . There are lots of reasons for this, but they boil down to vulnerability and clogging up the approach to the limited number of viable beaches. Landing ships carry those landing craft. And China doesn't really have the amount of those it needs.

[@dailyrant4068]

@@robertedwards2959but that’s my point. They don’t have enough because they don’t see the need for it. Of all the things they invest in, this is not the most technologically difficult or most expensive

[@Xackory]

A warship is literally a type of battleship

[@aequitas8749]

I think the US government should learn from its failures of the Vietnam war. South Vietnam was armed with heavy and modern weapons but they were of no use without logistical support of the US. Small arms and ground weapons used by infantry and artillery need to be the focus here.

[@robertedwards2959]

The world has changed a lot in the past 50 years.

[@doujinflip]

The US already learned that. It's the Taiwanese government who needs to realize that they need to focus on fighting where its soldiers and partisans can walk themselves to.

[@tomman2257]

South Vietnam failed because we left before they established NGOs which are vital for long term combat.

[@winniewillem]

Really interesting stuff. Im always really stoked to see more. Have been busy lately but glad I finally got to watch this one as well :) Keep it up 👍

[@The_Dinner_App]

Taiwan 🇹🇼 look at the sea drones made and designed by Ukraine- cheep , effective , no navy get to you

[@blackartist7]

The entire significance of this porcupine strategy is merely to ensure that, once a war breaks out, Taiwan becomes scorched earth, and to ensure a fratricidal tragedy is established between mainland Chinese and Taiwanese Chinese, akin to that between Ukrainians and Russians. Will the Americans intervene? It's impossible. Otherwise, would there be a need to forcibly relocate TSMC's production capacity to the USA, Japan, and Europe through the chip act? The balance in the minds of the Americans is clear: intervention is either impossible to succeed, or the cost is too high. Thus, loss control work has already commenced today: to drain Taiwan of its intellectual capital before the war starts. The refusal to sell advanced weapons is not because Taiwan doesn't need them, but to prevent them from falling into the hands of the Communist Party. Selling outdated smaller weapons is not to preserve Taiwan's interests, but to ensure that Taiwan becomes scorched earth, sowing the seeds of hatred between Taiwanese and mainland Chinese, to create a hatred loop that will be neverending.

[@blueturtle8113]

These videos are so well made! The graphics, narration, and everything really.

[@everypitchcounts4875]

Taiwan has the sixth largest fleet of F-16s & has 66 more on order

[@robertedwards2959]

Yeah this video is not well researched at all.

[@gamewadafak3655]

Most of f16 wont be in a operational state. Most of the fleet will be destroyed in the first minutes und mist of the military bases and airports too. So it’s irrelevant

[@Mdksupreme1]

Deranged talk, and regardless none of that would mean anything when it really matters

[@kingace6186]

It will be interesting to see what might happen. Since Taipei prefers to cover all its bases, it may try to further develop its domestic advanced arms industry. Or if Taipei feels strongly enough, it may also try buying advanced weapons from other nations to fill the gap (like how Ukraine does). But, the latter would be incredibly controversial in Taiwan's case.

[@yaya5tim]

It's been going for decades.... our former president Chen almost purchased Kilo class submarines from Russia back in 2000. We also tried buying weapons from countries like French, but it didn't work out well, plus US and China were all blocking our weapon trades, simply because US was having a honeymoon with China for the last 20 years. Then Trade War happens, US suddenly remembered they got Taiwan here, so they came and found out Taiwan is not well equipped, but they forgot they're the one that caused Taiwan buying no weapons. If US wants Taiwan as an ally, they need to show it, and for long term consistency and commitment. Even though now Taiwan feels US is really trying harder than before to help, but who knows when will US restricts Taiwan again because they're fine with China again?

[@niweshlekhak9646]

@@yaya5tim you don't know the part of the Chinese-US honeymoon period involved no invasion of Taiwan. US was the country that helped Taiwan to grow it's tech sector for all that years.

[@Commievn]

​@@alin1383 You are right. The doctrine at the time was similar vs Soviet Union. "Once they taste the freedom and wealth, they will never go back" It worked against the Soviet. However, Chinese civilization is different than Russia. Their pride of being the center of Asia or Eastern World for thousands of years, would never submit to Western ideology, let alone following Washington leadership.

[@sinoroman]

if you have good strategies or tactics, it pretty much nullifies higher technology

[@Chemicalkinetics]

@@alin1383 "Us tried to appease China between 2000-2018" -- Give it a rest, will you? No country invest China like Taiwan. Taiwan trades more heavily with Chin than USA does.

[@chunglin_tang]

This US strategy is flawed in the sense that: the idea of allowing PRC forces on TW ground (for all the Stingers/Javelins to start to have usefulness) means that the war is already lost. It's also a source of US-skepticism here in Taiwan, perceiving that the Americans are not truly helping to "prevent" the war, but rather are seeking to reap the benefit of destroying the PRC through a deep-ditch Taiwan theater should they invade (something we already effectively see with Russia in Ukraine). Occasional nitwits in the US proposing to destroy TSMC in case of PRC invasion certainly doesn't help to alleviate suspicions :P

[@BSenta]

​@@jeremyjackson7429yeah TSMC shouldn't bring in their best factories into the US they should bring their low tech ones and use some of those US tax subsidies to build them.

[@dailyrant4068]

It's not flawed though, it's based on realism. There is no way Taiwan can win any naval/air engagement. Even if we assume the weapon technology is equal, the sheer quantity of PRC will dominate. The only option is for US navy to proactively engage the same time.

[@robertedwards2959]

​@@dailyrant4068 we're not assuming technology is equal. We're assuming that the Patriot system is just as effective against China as it is against Russia. We're assuming the second largest fleet of F16s in the world is more advanced (even using decades old tech) than China's "4th and 5th generation" fighters. Oh and those F16s are currently being upgraded. We're assuming HIMARS is going to put massive holes in China's sealift capacity. I can keep going, but you get the picture. Basically take everything this video says and throw it out the window.

[@dailyrant4068]

@@robertedwards2959 all you have done is reinforced your beliefs with assumptions. It’s a joke to assume all these things when you don’t base it on anything factual. Why is decades old better? I’m not even arguing it 100% isn’t but the logical conclusion is their out dated tech (meaning no active phased array radar, older missiles with shorter range) isn’t as good as new Chinese tech. Bringing Russia into the picture is also a dumb move. Russia has always had horrible electronics, which is exactly where most Chinese copied jet improvements are made. I’ve yet to see a report that talks about Chinese radar and electronics not being near the top with American counterparts. If you were claiming F35 being more proven I would agree with you, but most of the stuff you said is non sense

[@robertedwards2959]

@@dailyrant4068 sorry I shouldn't have posted that while half asleep. I kinda smashed my points together into an unrecognizable mess. Basically I was trying to say the "Porcupine Defense" only made sense 15 years ago because American hand me down tech was 2 generations or more ahead of Chinese equivalents. This and other reasons are why Taiwan doesn't really do "Porcupine Defense" and why America doesn't block weapons deals Taiwan can actually afford.

[@monoken]

just wanted to add Turkey just approved Taiwan's acquisition of 100+ attack drones capable of firing multiple guided missiles

[@kilowhiskey7973]

Turkey sucks

[@Cat-bg2ge]

Good to know.

[@jonahlohmann4423]

This account is the best thing I've found on KZbin in the past 2 years or so.

[@SearchParty]

thank you! welcome!

[@Gkeeper91]

Johnny sent me here and I’m loving the videos! I know it’s a new channel so the content isn’t very streamlined yet, but it would be super awesome if we could get new videos more often than once every few weeks!

[@carmediakuo6115]

13:12 is correct. the porcupine strategy only slows down, but can not stop China's invasion, like Ukrain now needs advance weapons to fight back. Futhermore, China escalates and increases the Gray Zone activities daily, Taiwan needs advance weapons to counter provocations and reassure the people.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Good job on all the videos so far 👏🏽

[@philipwilliamson5332]

In this big, beautiful world, in the end, it seems that all we know is war, violence, and greed

[@ironboy3245]

Nothing has changed since the stone age except the scale of conflict

[@felisasininus1784]

Yeah, I wonder which countries have been the most warmongering through the ages. According to many pathetic brainlets, it's gotta be China, right?

[@rowluna6400]

Tell that to Ch!na.

[@ShyWeirdo-td5bu]

Well, you are watching a video on geopolitics. If you don't want to see this, watch something else.

[@philipwilliamson5332]

@ShyWeirdo-td5bu thanks for consistently being weirdo, rather than understanding the reason behind my comment 🙏🏿

[@eXit-ubermensch]

Really love your videos! Please keep going! It's all about consistency

[@Kermit888-g7p]

Great video! No hate but I just have 1 comment for clarity sake. You should use the word “warship” instead of “battleship.” “Warship” is a general term that means any ship with weapons for fighting in war. “Battleship” is a specific class of warships that rival aircraft carriers in size and have very large caliber main guns (like 15 inch shells) on huge turrets. Also notably, they are very heavily armored. The only battleships around today are museum ships. The ships that China and Taiwan have are absolutely not battleships and should not really be called as such. It really sticks out if you are familiar with the term. Again, just trying to help!

[@SearchParty]

You're totally right. Thanks for the note!

[@-mey5392]

I'm from Honduras currently living in Taiwan and this war thing do concern me. Thank you for the video 😊

[@ruifenghuang1029]

It's gonna be military coup

[@AyubuKK]

I hope a beneficial solution gets reached. And China doesn’t decide to act before that happens.

[@dexterdr.7020]

i've already lost track of how many years since people hyped about "China is invading Taiwan soon/next month/next year" beyond imaginations and war mongerings, in reality, major provocations have to take place to make it happen, such as Pelosi's visit or something worse, and my gut is telling me that some people are holding these provocation cards in hands and waiting to show deck

[@sinoroman]

anything that reduces US influence in the region, I will support for the most part

[@张凡-o6j]

The war was started by the United States. Isn't it enough that the United States provoked war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East? Now it wants to bring the war to East Asia?

[@robertedwards2959]

​@@sinoromanwhy?

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

@@robertedwards2959 cause he ain't american

[@TheBreadB]

Great video, hopefully we don’t see this invasion at all!

[@samhy]

Your Grandpa U.S from McCarthy to U.S Pentagon learned the big lessons with illegally invaded Korea war, Sino-india war with Vietnam war from the past of 60 years ago and got beaten badly by China volunteer army's in the Year of 1953 at Korean war.

[@craftit9715]

13:00 Your Defence Strategy should not be completely heavily dependent on other's grace for your sovereign defence. Porcupine Strategy alone means dancing to the beats of submission to other. It does not favour Taiwan. USA can or cannot choose to back Tiwan. USA only needs Semi-Conductor Dominance and Freedom. After it has Achieved it what is Taiwan. There people are not Anglo.... They don't bother beyond that.

[@highontaiwan]

When I visited Taiwan last summer, I asked my friends that I have known for over twenty years if they worried about a Chinese invasion. They seemed unsure if it would happen but resigned to helplessness if China did invade. They were envious of the fact that regular citizens in the US are allowed to own and train with firearms. If Taiwan would allow citizens to own firearms I am sure that many people would jump at the chance and that might help to deter China from invading. That would be a true porcupine strategy.

[@AHMATTLIU]

如果台湾政府允许其人民拥有枪支，当台湾和中国大陆发生冲突时，台湾的内战早就开始了。

[@hallosamin]

I want your editing skills🙌🏻

[@christiangarcia4782]

Man you qnd johny have somenof the most interesting and informative channels on KZbin. Loved yall of vox love yall now. 👏

[@user_thelongwayaround]

I think Johny is too dramatic.

[@felisasininus1784]

I hope you don't mean Johnny Harris. Oh god. Westerners really are ......., aren't you. :(

[@robertedwards2959]

Nothing about this video is factually informative. Nearly $2 billion in arms sales to Taiwan in 2023 and not one but of it was for "Porcupine Strategy" weapons.

[@robertedwards2959]

​@@felisasininus1784well some of us listen to Peter Zeihan as if he actually knows anything. So yeah there's some stupid floating around.

[@Siberian_Nyt]

I've watched and enjoyed every search party video so far. They're on a hot streak 🔥

[@Hanzsaw]

We need a part 2 !!! Great stuff

[@jchastain789]

I never hear anyone mention the lend lease act. These countries trade weapons today for future debt ... this is worrying especially in the Ukraine.. I doubt they'll ever be able to pay it back

[@Cat-bg2ge]

hummm, I've heard of the lend lease act.

[@peterliao6045]

From a Taiwanese studying in Singapore - your analysis is really spot on. While weapons for the porcupine strategy is essential to slow down an invasion, I think what we're trying to do now is to achieve a state of self sufficient national defense. We just made our first submarine and it's given the locals a lot more confidence in the capabilities of the military.

[@Eric-ge5le]

破烂货 aip都没有 牛死了 俘获的价值都没有 直接炸沉

[@chinarise]

看看地图，台湾还没有一个福建省大，这就是台湾问题的根源。 台湾太小了，同时中国太大了。视频把台湾比作豪猪，但这其实是非常不恰当的，按照台湾的经济体量、战斗实力、领土面积，它在中国面前就像老鼠一样。 开战之后，无论中国输赢， 台湾很大概率被夷为平地。台湾不敢，也不能跟中国发生军事冲突，所以台湾政客鼓吹的“发展军火，加强自身军事实力”， 完全只是因为他们想在军火贸易中获得利益。台湾在美国眼里像是一个弱化版的乌克兰，美国乐意通过不断出售军火来收割台湾的财富。台湾最正确的选择是发展半导体，加强与中国的经济联系，让中国攻打台湾后会遭受很大的经济损失。 就像上面的一个评论指出，台湾作为超级大国旁边的陆地航空母舰，自身的命运早已在诞生时就注定。一个小老鼠是否武装到牙齿，它在老虎面前都是随意蹂躏的对象。但是如果小老鼠帮助老虎运输来大量的奶酪，老虎就很乐意维持现状。这里的老虎既指的是中国，也指的是美国。

[@vincentdesun]

Shanghai alone outbuilds taiwan by 10:1, not to mention the rest of China's military ports. China builds aircraft carriers faster than Taiwan does surbmarines.

[@evilnet1]

@@chinarise Your reply seems the most realistic and most rational

[@dr7193]

Yah, fortunately some confidence in the capabilities, not actual fire power. The key of national defence isn’t defending the people, is to make people believe they are defended.

[@richardparker7353]

Great content. Keep up the amazing work. Love what you do

[@SearchParty]

Much appreciated!

[@robertedwards2959]

It would be better content of they pointed out that Taiwan favored this style of defense for about 2 years from 2017-2019. Or that just in 2023 Taiwan bought over $1 billion worth of F-16 upgrades and weapons.

[@maskurreza7474]

Loved your work, Sam. Keep us informed with your great work.

[@jamesg8246]

Man the production value of this video is spot on from the start.. nice work.

[@austinhorton6350]

If China were to invade the US Navy would be able to easily form a blockade in the Malacca Strait which would put the Chinese Economic Situation in even more dire straits (no pun intended).

[@camu9721]

That is old news mate, after the Ukraine war started and sanctions applied on Russia, Russia and China are now bed buddies, with Russia supplying energy and food to China, you can no longer chock China with just blocking the Malacca Strait.

[@NotFound-um6nr]

你认为我们的导弹都是模型😂

[@AlphariusDominatus]

​@@NotFound-um6nryes. Filled with sea water 😂

[@jkc3738]

Why doesn't the US Navy block Russian shipping lanes? Do you know that this is an act of war?

[@AlphariusDominatus]

@@jkc3738 I'm not sure The U.S. cares anymore at this point. Russia can't do anything about it.

[@mussehlmems]

Would be interesting to get the perspective of what Korea or Japan would do if China attacks. Would they be neutral or take a side?

[@zanaduz2018]

SK and Japan are almost certainly going to take Taiwan’s side: if the PRC annexes Taiwan, military positioning there gives China a commanding position across the maritime trade routes that those two countries are vitally dependent upon economically.

[@matthewlipton2998]

They won't be neutral but they won't join any conflict. 100%.

[@giganigga9624]

Japan will certainly join . Matter of fact , Japan would be the first to help defend the island. This in turn will drag the US into helping Japan defend Taiwan as the US is obligated to defend Japan in exchange to give up nukes back in WW2. Japan has the leverage here and China knows it

[@user_thelongwayaround]

In war games, the Taiwan strait is vital to Japan so they intervene every single time. On the other side, SK is much reluctant but they are still on the American side because they fear that if something happens on the Korean Peninsula others won’t help.

[@canine555]

Neither S. Korea or Japan would get involved militarily. Period. Why would Korea and Japan risk getting militarily and economically destroyed for the sake of a civil war.

[@nocheapdopamine725]

I have a Taiwanese friend who was exempt from mandatory military service because of an injury. Now that tensions have built up over the past couple of years, they downgraded his injury to nullify the exemption. Now he’s fighting to not have to join and stay in the US. I really hope he doesn’t have to fight China😢

[@maximipe]

I'm more worried about the US pulling out some bs casus belli than China

[@ilbjork]

Well, it is his duty- if what you said was true.

[@nocheapdopamine725]

@@ilbjork nominally, sure. Everything-else-lly, not really.

[@oxvendivil442]

If he is Taiwanese and his elected government requires him to join in the meat grinder then it is his obligation to fight and die unless he be branded as a traitor and a coward, a shameful maggot, this is democracy, there are obligations to fulfill under it, a price for its perks.

[@kelllakell]

As an American Idgaf, it's his duty and I'll be damned if a Taiwanese citizen is gonna sit in the US while we help them fight their war, it's his duty and he will fulfill it. Freedom isn't free.

[@StormOneOfficial]

Happy 200K Subs!

[@SearchParty]

🎉

[@Cat-bg2ge]

Great Voice, easy to understand.

[@chao-tingwu2041]

Love the analysis of the thinking behind both the US and Taiwanese leaders, but the title might be misleading as it isn't really what the video is trying to say. It's more about analyzing the different defense strategies and presented the pros and cons. Simply presenting the strategie and focusing on the rejected MH-60R sale doesn't really explain to the audience "why" Taiwan isn't ready for an invasion now.

[@nelsoncheng2674]

Too bad he’s not going to listen

[@张凡-o6j]

The war was started by the United States. Isn't it enough that the United States provoked war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East? Now it wants to bring the war to East Asia?

[@samuelmartinez3762]

I absolutely love the content shared on the channel, but I understood that the channel initially was supposed to be oriented into sports journalism covering more of the history of sports related conflicts, scandals etc

[@lilo7217]

Actually, the porcupine strategy requires more civilians becoming soldiers, human blood exchange more time for possible USA military involved in Chinese civil war. Will ROC people really accept this situation?

[@widodoakrom3938]

True

[@The_WhiteSilver]

Will the PRC’s people accept the hundreds of thousands to millions of lives needed to take the island?

[@lilo7217]

Rockets will answer your question. PLA is not the same troop at Korea war.

[@ofentsemkaolatola-vw3qf]

We all understand that everyone from the west is really heldbent on trying to present the case of China Taiwan as the worse decision or mistake that could ever happen to China if they take Taiwan which is very understandable because to you China is taking away your way of life. They are a different culture but they are also not stupid. They learn very quickly which most of the western countries failed to do. So if china makes a move on Taiwan it wouldn't the way you expected just like any other moves they made which came out as surprise to you because to you white people everything happens the way you think even on people you don't even know. If it does happen the way you never thought then there got to be something wrong.

[@peterzou6961]

The main issue is that the Taiwanese Chinese will fight only under the condition of defended by the US, or they won't care to fight for independence. Independence is a western idea, Chinese prefer peace and prosperity.

[@Xackory]

Yeah ur stupid if you think they won’t fight

[@kickinghorse2405]

Just saw this channel talked up by Johnny (like, a minute ago). Popped over here and "subscribed" totally based on his referral. Cheers mates- make hay!

[@SearchParty]

Just texted Johnny "thanks"

[@JuleSuga]

I think the assumption of this video that the porcupine strategy is the "correct" strategy in the defence of a Chinese invasion is perhaps flawed. It's drawing the conclusion that similar strategy has worked in Ukraine. However, just a couple of points to consider: 1. The Russo-Ukrainian war is a land war, one can literally walk from Moscow to Kyiv, if one chooses to. But Taiwan is an island, with unfavourable weather conditions, an invasion could only take place during certain time of the year, hence a hybrid strategy may work better for Taiwan? 2. The assumption that size is might - bigger its military more powerful it is. Yes, the PLA has more fire power to throw at Taiwan, but the quality and effectiveness of their weapons is questionable. Again, just look at the war in Ukraine, bigger Russian army = more effective in executing a war??? One final thought, if porcupine strategy is so successful in Ukraine, why has President Zelensky been going all over US/Europe asking for F16s and long range missiles. P.S. I'm no military expert, these are just personal observations. As a Taiwanese, international attention on what's happening here is always welcome. But in this case an oversimplication of the matter, with a provocative heading is probably rather counter-productive. Nevertheless, thank you for shining a light on the situation. 🙂

[@johnnyissuper6955]

You make no sense, why would Taiwan being an island make porcupine strat less effective? Also yes size is not everything, but it still matters a lot. You’re also assuming that Chinese equipment is second grade but you have no sources to support that claim. Just because russias equipment is bad doesn’t mean that chinas equipment is bad.

[@dcc70]

In any conventional conflict over Taiwan, there's no outcome that doesn't leave Taiwan in smoking ruins. Taiwan should learn from North Korea and develop a nuclear weapon as the ultimate deterrent. Is anyone threatening to invade North Korea?

[@johnnyissuper6955]

@@dcc70"should learn from NK and aquire nuclear weapons" same energy as "just get rich bro"

[@dcc70]

@@johnnyissuper6955 if Pakistan can do it, why not Taiwan?

[@johnnyissuper6955]

@@dcc70Pakistan doesn't abide by international laws so they've been researching nukes for a long time before acquiring them. Taiwan has never focused on developing nukes because they follow US's orders. They can't just suddenly make nukes because nuclear research takes time. Iran has tried devleoping nukes for many years but still could not do it, because it's a difficult task. It's also very difficult to become a nuclear state nowadays because other nuclear powers don't want more countries getting nukes, adding another obstacle. NK was able to get nukes after getting sanctioned to oblivion. Iran got the same treatment just for trying. USA may not mind, but china, russia, and other nuclear powers certainly will mind, taiwan's nuclear research will be pretext for sanctions/ even more aggression from China.

[@ltnlabs]

Would yall mind doing a video on the chip manufacturer TSMC? I think it would be fascinating in your format.

[@wordofswords5386]

I 100% agree with the porcupine Strategy. Taiwan would have no hope fighting China symetrically, China is just way stronger, its not gonna happen. 135 Stingers or 1 f-16 is an easy choice to make. Most likely that F-16 will never make it off the ground, even if it does it will be made short work of. Yes the stinger is a very limited system with low range, but if they are abundant across the country that short range will not matter and their is practically no way China can destroy these stinger crews they are too mobile and abundant as well as easily concealable. They would have no choice but to avoid them. And yes China can still strike Taiwan from outside the stingers range but only with expensive guided munitions, but the altitude needed to accurately drop a dumb bomb is well within the stingers range. And China has way more dumb bombs than guided ones. They are also effective at shooting down cruise missiles and the Cruise missiles will be a big problem for Taiwan if they cannot shoot them down because China has alarge stockpile.

[@kevinmanan1304]

Only issue with the porcupine strategy is "if" the US will come and help. The ambiguity allows US to say "uh yeah.. no thank you" still. Taiwan should still diversify with more advance weapons.

[@Jake-rm4be]

Interesting video! I think the porcupine strategy is definitely the way to go for Taiwan

[@trustandbelieve9173]

Whats one way a predator can kill a porcupine? Flip the little thing belly up ! Game over! China might have 1,000s of sleeper agents ready to cause havoc during an invasion.

[@tomlu6820]

two ways china will counter this, using long distance artillery instead of missiles, making it cheaper than taiwanese counter measures. then, increasing its convensional and non conventional navy, so that it can win a confrontation with US, deter US interventuon.

[@NoOneToNoOne89]

Exactly! Just like the castles of the medieval age that never got besieged! Oh. Wait a sec… It’s an island! Lol. Blow up the airports ports and surround it with land mines and ships. Then, make precision targeted strikes of critical infrastructure (energy and food). The country would be crippled in a month. Not an exaggeration or a joke. That’s exactly the strategy that would be needed as well: full scale mass blitzkrieg. No aide would be able to come in. All communication cut off. The US wouldn’t even be able to attempt a sort of “Berlin Airlift 2.0”. The world won’t know what hit them. Defeating Taiwan would actually be incredibly easy.

[@mohamedhussein4124]

Cut off supplies 😂

[@NoOneToNoOne89]

Humans are among the dumbest “smart” creatures.

[@obsidianstatue]

Considering China has massive industrial capabilities to make drones, they can simply soak up any missiles Taiwan has stockpiled. What Taiwan needs are AR-15s in the hands of every person on that island, because missiles are all big ticket items easily targeted by Chinese air force and drones. Javelins are ineffective, because China won't land with mass tank formations, Taiwan's western plains are filled with farmlands, that isn't idea for armored formations. So it will be an infantry based warfare with PLA infantrymen armed to the teeth with drones and laser designators to guide missiles onto target. Taiwan on the other hand, can only resist by hiding in cities to engage in urban warfare, they can take a page out of Japan near the end of WW2, the 100 million banzai strategy stopped an US landing. Taiwan needs their own 23 million banzai strategy

[@nelsoncheng2674]

Yeah, pretty true.

[@symbolman5359]

This is the most concise and well executed explanation of the Taiwan problem that I have seen so far.

[@samshepperrd]

7:10. China never developed any weapons systems. They downloaded that plans from poorly secured American defense contractors servers.

[@sarakajira]

Correction: China and Taiwan do not have "Battleships" and are not building them. No county has had a Battleship since the last one was decommissioned in 1992. I think you meant to say "warship", lol!

[@johnnyissuper6955]

🤓

[@widodoakrom3938]

True

[@Hilts931]

It’s ridiculously difficult to launch an amphibious assault on an island nation that has modern military equipment that both expects it - and sees you coming. Particularly if the attacker has no military experience of an operation like that. That’s not mentioning a global response. China understands that completely.

[@trustandbelieve9173]

All they have to do is blockade them, they wont invade

[@minhhuytruong8667]

"sees you coming" Yeah, there is this thing called "boiling the frog" which says that if a frog is put in tepid water, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death when the pot boils. China is doing the same with Taiwan by increasing its incursions into the area until it becomes the norm. Beijing could always turn a "live firing exercise" into a naval blockade with the only warning of an invasion being Chinese rocket batteries opening fire on HVTs.

[@elvenarcher1754]

China doesn't have to attempt an amphibious invasion though, cause in a few years' time it will have a sufficient navy to take over Taiwan's ADIZ (inspecting every ship that passes the Taiwan Strait, one step before a full-fledged blockade). This puts the ball in Taiwan's court and force it to scramble its jets and submarines to bomb PLA battleships, drawing them out into the open for China to destroy. Any Taiwanese attempt to strike mainland targets i.e. using cruise missiles will be considered a disproportionate response and act of war, mobilizing popular support within the mainland.

[@xhy12]

⁠@@elvenarcher1754Amphibious assault will always be necessary at some point to gain control, that's why every Chinese simulation included this feature. Naval blockade does not automatically become easier with a larger navy, considering 3 new US naval bases will also be functioning in PH in a few years and Taiwan has an undisclosed number of Hsiung Feng missles which after launching hovers meters above the sea surface, plenty useful to strike any battleship without even needing to deploy jets or land2sea, air2sea weaponry

[@Hilts931]

@@minhhuytruong8667 200,000 Chinese troops boarding landing craft will indeed be seen before they even get underway.

[@Commievn]

The porcupine strategy is actually brilliant. Much cheaper and more cost effective. Vivek Ramaswamy, a President hopeful even proposed that Taiwan's constitution should consider "U.S 2nd admendment-style" to deterrent Chinese invasion. Imagine every Taiwanese household with firearm(s) Even if CCP manage to invade Taiwan successfully. Occupying will be hazard.

[@dr7193]

Yah, the only flaw being, you are not that Taiwanese household, and you don’t see people dying for it. Perhaps in the future, people pray and mourn online and thats it.

[@robertedwards2959]

If America would commit to protecting Taiwan then maybe. Even then it's not great in most situations. Probably why Taiwan doesn't use the Porcupine Strategy and even when they did still bout billions dollars worth of conventional weapon systems.

[@SavageDragon999]

7:47 Neither China nor Taiwan operate any 'battleship', those are obsolete. And even if you mean battle-ships, the correct term is warships.

[@tiggytoggy1440]

Subscribed. Great reporting.

[@gnaneswarchintalapati2336]

Please add sources discussed in the video for every video, it would be very helpful....great video btw

[@robertedwards2959]

Google Taiwan Porcupine Strategy and skim the first half dozen articles. That's pretty much their source. Now Google America-Taiwan arms sale and you'll start to get a feel for what is actually happening.

[@robertedwards2959]

He'd actually have research and use sources to do that.

[@colekarrh9114]

I watched the video now I'll rant One: You got alot of the military terminology wrong Two :The price of the F-16 fighter jet wrong Three: Their is more to the procupine strategy than "buy cheap weapons"

[@niweshlekhak9646]

He put the price of F-16 of 1979, not 2023.

[@robertedwards2959]

They missed that the Taiwanese Overall Defense Strategy only favored the Porcupine Defense for 2 years. And that America hasn't actually blocked any sales of weapons to Taiwan. We have almost $20 billion in backlogged contracts at this point.

[@Jry088]

The problem with this video is that it fails to show the amount of time it would take to set up an invasion of that scale. A bombardment of Taiwan is useless if you don't have a large enough force for an amphibious attack. You can't assemble that many troops and ships without anyone knowing, the satellites will see every movement and it will take weeks if not months. This is the first sign of a serious invasion. US would have plenty of time to send aids. US carrier groups can arrive in days just like how they did with the current Middle East crisis.

[@iginocipollone8137]

As an Italian i want you guys to think about how many USA industries operate in China and how much these countries are economically connected. In case of a war, obviously that would take a hit, apart of having to fight a war with a country with nuclear weapons and billions of citizens, the downsides of a USA-China war would be too high for defending an island which most strategic thing they have for USA is chips.. USA is already planning on investing tons of money into bringing production in their country. Why fight a global war when you can just finance chips R&D?

[@Sawvage]

It’s not just about chips buddy, it’s also about chain of islands currently blocking chinas access in pacific (all of them having a US base on it fyi) which takes it all the way to shores of the US. Taking Taiwan would open a doorway for China to enter in pacific with open arms and enable its navy to encircle USA. It’d be foolish to think USA is only going to defend taiwan for sake of chips, the stakes are high and it’s personal!

[@mgronich948]

Another video that avoids the most obvious military action by China. The 1st millitary action by China will be a naval and air blockade of Taiwan. This action nullifies all insurace for ocean and air transport into and out of Taiwan. The 1st goal of the blockade is to cut off Taiwan semiconductor shipments to the G7 producing a 2 trillion hit to the G7 economy. The 2nd goal is to cut off oil/gas/energy imports to Taiwan where there's only a 30~45 day supply. Of course as this happens the US will likely bomb TSMC as per congress Moulton. China's plan all along is unification without invading Taiwan. I multiple Pentagon war games in 2020 and 2021, a full out battle between the US and China over Taiwan, China won every time. If a shooting war broke out between the US and China, Okinawa and Guam would be destroyed. US carriers would stay > 2000km from the coast of China or risk being sunk. US subs will be harder to hit, until they fire a missile. The US knows China will only take military action if Taiwan declares independence, which is why Blinken said the US does not support a unilateral declaration of independence by Taiwan. Why is the US still selling expensive weapons to Taiwan, it's to benefit the US military industrial complex. It has nothing to do with the defense of Taiwan.

[@marrzcapanang]

I recently traveled to Taiwan and talked to friends there. What I learned was: Taiwan was part of the Qing Dynasty and it ended in 1912. Japan came earlier to occupy now Taiwan around 1895. Then happened the 1927-1949 civil war in China. Mao Zedong won and a new government government was established. Then Chiang Kai-Shek moved to Taiwan and forced people there to join his group but killed a lot of people who didn't want to (majority). My friends call him an asshole. In 1945, Japan surrendered and left Taiwan so in 1949 Chiang Kai-Shek (Republic of China or ROC) exercised jurisdiction over Taiwan. That is the reason why they don't want to be part of China and even hate to call them ROC because they were also forced to speak in Mandarin when they already had the Taiwanese language. (for example ni hao (hello) in Mandarin, in Taiwanese it is lí-hó (originated from the Middle of China). Another interesting thing is that East Taiwan is populated with Aborigines and they have similarities to our Indigenous groups here in the Philippines: some words, skin color, festivities, et al. Thousands of years ago, the islands in the Pacific were inhabited by Austronesians traveling island to island by boat until the 4 superpowers of the seas (Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, and British) limited and controlled the area. In short, we are all fucked up by the superpowers. IMO: I love my Taiwanese friends, Taiwan is more like Ancient China and a fusion of Japanese influences. Most Taiwanese people are kind, humble, and very helpful, more inclusive, and more open. The relationship between the people and its government is amazing (respect). They also face challenges like most countries but their system is great. It is the safest country to travel if it is your first time abroad.

[@qa4838]

I agree with you. If you travel to Fujian Province of China, you can also see part of ancient China. Taiwan now is more like a combination of different culture, like HK. As a civilian from mainland China I was taught that Taiwan is part of China based on the United Nations general assembly resolution 2758 which admitted that Beijing government is only legal representative of China(taiwan included of course),and one of the essential rules between China and US is US gov support one-China policy. Before 2014, no leader of modern China had put much emphasizes on take Taiwan back by force. So as a mainland Chinese, I really appreciate Taiwan, Taiwanese and Taiwan culture. Hope there will be no war between us. Superiors in both sides won't step in the battlefield, only ordinary people lose their lives.

[@donhatphongfplhcm208]

To be honest, I kinda agree. As we looked onto the world political chess boards, Russia, China and USA are the three big causes of why the world today is fucked up

[@Psnmusk]

台湾百分之98都是汉族人😅祖宗全是大陆人，你跟我谈那不起眼的高山族土著

[@kisaragi-hiu]

11:35 try to remember that Crimea is Ukraine, thanks Taiwan needs submarines because (a) we need the ability to contest the underwater theater and (b) we only have 4 right now, 2 of which are 80 year old WW2 era antiques. Advanced weapons in lesser quantities are still necessary (quantity does not entirely replace quality), and the missile threat is possibly overrated. The lots of small weapons approach hasn't stopped Russia from initially being able to take land, nor has it allowed Ukraine to reclaim lost territory quickly or regain air superiority. Using Ukraine's experience for why Taiwan shouldn't pursue advanced weapons at smaller quantities is something that Taiwan can't afford to do. When Taiwan is asking *to buy* weapons, we've already thought it through. The US should not be blocking sells as if it's deciding whether to donate stuff.

[@niweshlekhak9646]

Taiwan should buy unmanned submarines from Israel.

[@tomcatkewell]

And try to remember how Crimea was assigned to Ukraine at the first place.

[@felisasininus1784]

Crimea is your mother's Ukraine. Just sit tight and wait to get reunited, dear cousin. You'll love us, I promise. If you survive, that is. 🥴 XXOO, Bureau of Tactical Intimidation, People's Republic of China

[@Jasongy827]

I love Taiwan so dam clean and the food their is amazing. I’ll be honest, defending the island is way more important then defending Ukraine, first off it’s chip manufacturing capabilities something everyone needs.

[@felisasininus1784]

Don't worry about it, the whole lot of TSMC has already been moved to the United States. And the company is just about completely sucked dry by American competition, as ordained by the benevolent US government.

[@genuinennessbefitting4734]

@@felisasininus1784 Due to the failure of the United States to suppress Taiwan's technology in 2002, EUV was successfully developed in Taiwan, and the era of artificial intelligence began. In 2022, two Japanese companies, Nikon and Canon, will monopolize the global lithography equipment market. At that time, ASML was still a tiny company surviving on orders from TSMC. Intel established the EUV LCC Alliance to develop lithography machines using American dry methods and adopt American lithography machine technology. Major manufacturers such as Motorola, AMD, and IBM were allowed to join the alliance, but TSMC was excluded from the EUV LCC alliance. Subsequently, TSMC cooperated with ASML and used the immersion lithography technology developed by TSMC to conduct research and development at F12B, the TSMC R&D headquarters located in Hsinchu Science Park, Taiwan. There were two EUV R&D units worldwide at that time, but the Intel EUV LCC alliance failed. TSMC spent 1 million wafers in testing at the F12b wafer fab and finally successfully created EUV to produce advanced chips. The United States has not invested a dime in the research and development of modern EUV, and not a single American engineer is involved in research and development. Immersion lithography technology is TSMC’s technology. If the United States did not have Taiwanese technology and Nvidia was founded by Taiwanese, could the United States still become a world hegemon?

[@letubwithme]

Excellent video.

[@themuffinman8936]

You made a mistake at 1:45, China did not hold Tibet at this time but the map claims that they did.

[@mattyu1818]

Pretty mainstream incorrect analysis. Stinger and Javelin only had a limited effect in the first few weeks of the Ukraine war. They'd have even less of an effect when defending Taiwan from high altitude sustained bombardment.

[@Palinourios]

Yeah, explained it quite ok but I think videos like this also make it seem like an invasion is imminent and Taiwanese people are freaked out. This is not the case. I have been in living in Taiwan for over three years and the general consensus is that an invasion will not happen, simply because the (economic) losses for China would be too great and the benefit too small. Furthermore, China can use Taiwan as an "enemy" to reunite the people in the mainland. It makes more sense for any Chinese leader to keep the status quo regarding Taiwan. And next time remember to put in some shots of what Taiwan actually looks like, its beautiful. :-)

[@lolo-jx8qd]

Taiwanese opinion is delusionally wrong. Not surprising given how they have been indoctrinated by the regime that the people overthrew.

[@seneca983]

"because the (economic) losses for China would be too great and the benefit too small" While I don't think invasion is that likely, I don't think this is such a reliable line of reasoning. Same could be argued about Russia and Ukraine but an invasion still happened.

[@lolo-jx8qd]

@@seneca983 This isn't about economic loss or benefit. This about defending China's sovereignty and territorial integrity. Taiwan is part of China. Period. Secondly, it's also about respecting the will of the Chinese people. In 1949, Chinese people overthrew their government but that government has been propped up illegally by the USA in Taiwan province ever since. This is a direct violation of China's sovereignty and rule of the people. A regime that the people overthrew has no right to govern anything and must be eliminated. It is wrong and illegal to have a foreign backed overthrown regime on China's territory. China is not going to invade Taiwan. China will liberate Taiwan.

[@seneca983]

@@lolo-jx8qd "This isn't about economic loss or benefit." Why are you telling me this. It was OP (Palinourios) who made the economic argument, not me. "China will liberate Taiwan." The people in Taiwan clearly do not want to be lorded over by the Chinese Communist Party. It would be morally wrong for the CCP to impose their rule on Taiwan by using violence.

[@vlhc4642]

Well make sure you communicate that consensus to China, because it's coming. As for economic loses, maybe you should ask yourself, is it Beijing control of Taiwan that causes economic loses, or is it America trying to stop China that carry the economic loses. How much economic loses will there be, if America tells you to surrender, which you do, PLA walks in through Taipei, Tsai gets arrested, and then everyone goes back to business as usual? Alternatively, ask yourself, will the economic loses to the United States be greater if Taiwan gets taken over while they stay on trading terms with China, or will the loses be greater if they go to war with China directly.

[@klaudelu18]

Hey, Search Party ☺ Could y'all add the transcript? Would be helpful for us English teachers using this material for our clients.

[@Gazakhalifa]

If taiwan keeps up with the US they're going to end up just like Ukraine 😂😂😂😂

[@ChrisGutting-b1h]

Chinese weapons no better than Russian weapons Taiwan uses U.S weapons the best in the world

[@greentraveler4114]

I am from Republic of China, I am Taiwanese but also Chinese, same to you are Californian but you are also American. Why do you Westerners don't deliberately support separatist forces to help California independence, New Mexico independence, Scotland independence, Corscica independence, Ryukyu independence, Catalonia independence, western Australia independence, Hawaii independence? Indigenous people in those territories need fair shot!!! Respect is also mutual.

[@greentraveler4114]

I am sure lots of western media brainwashed people are gonna attack and insult me for my expression of my opinion, for them freedom of speech has double standards, it exists only when it fits their narrative.

[@maigepresents5840]

'To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal' - Henry Kissinger

[@chat4783]

The War Criminal

[@gregoryedwards9097]

Exactly

[@morrischen5777]

The porcupine strategy, or the "Overall Defense Concept" that's being discussed in the Taiwanese military, is very unpopular among military institutions and the general public. The strategy requested Taiwan to abandon traditional advanced military equipment and units, and rearmed with many cheap and simple "asymmetric" weapons like MANPADS and drones. In the army, tanks should be replaced with cheap IFVs. The navy should only consist of a large number of missile boats and midget sub instead of frigates, destroyers and SSK. The air force should only have cheap strikers and missiles for surface attacks instead of hundreds of multi-role fighters. This so-called porcupine strategy will severely damage Taiwanese defense agility and depth, and put Taiwan into a completely pro-active position in a war. It effectively aim to reduce Taiwan's military means to match a single doomsday scenario that is a full scale decisive battle with invading China. This strategy disregarded all other scenarios like military standoff, limited blockade, and all other political tension, and gave Taiwan's military only one option to exercise its value, that is to fight in full scale. Furthermore, the porcupine strategy is deemed to fail. Porcupine's quills are useless if it's facing a claw that cuts deeper than the quills themselves. When Taiwan reduce its military capabilities like air-superiority fighters, tanks and frigate fleet, in exchange only have anti-air missiles, IFVs and missile boats, although in the same price have more units available, this also mean the range and effectiveness of such defenses are less then its superior classes of weapons from China. In this scenario, Chinese air forces could easily conduct SEAD to wear down Taiwanese missile units, without the need of caring air space superiority. The Chinese navy can be focused on protecting the invasion fleet, without needing to send a task force to deal with the Taiwanese fleet. Taiwan could not conduct a counter attack and push Chinese troops off the beach, since Taiwan would only have lightly armored units and no tanks. To feel the pain of a porcupine 's quills, the enemy would need to bite first. In this context, Taiwan could not conduct pre-emptive strikes on Chinese invasion force's rally and depot. Taiwan could not counter attack on the enemy's commanding nodes and EWAR assets. Taiwan could not assert pressure on the enemy coastal base in any means to disrupt their invasion efforts. These will only incapacitate the Taiwanese military when facing Chinese attack, and give the Chinese easier way to find counter moves to these limited defense measures. Taiwanese porcupine strategy aka the "Overall Defense Concept" in Taiwan, is a complete mess that the US military once again misjudged a foreign defense strategy and forced it onto the nation's government by both political pressure and propaganda from civilian institutes. Just like Ukrainians now faced the difficulties to retake their land back, this strategy would bite Taiwan later or even lose the war of survival because of it.

[@Chemicalkinetics]

Taiwan does not have other choice, ok? Every year, Taiwan has a smaller and smaller military force. How do you match Chins' in term of tank to tank, ship to ship? Porcupine strategy is the only strategy Taiwan has. Do you have any idea the cost China is spending in military and the size of the Chinese army. How is the traditional strategy going to work?

[@Pun116]

You're clueless. There is simply no way Taiwan can match the military spending of China. It. Will. Lose. The porcupine strat is all in on delaying the inevitable, which prays for the US military to intervene like it did during the Korean war. Taiwan can only hope it somehow gets recognized by the US as an independent country and then become an ally. Or, Taiwan gets nuclear capabilities.

[@generalrendar7290]

One thing that you aren't thinking of is that the Chinese troops have to be supplied from the sea 135 miles away. If the supply ships and helicopters are taken out, starvation and attrition massively go against the Chinese invaders. Yeah, they got 100k troops across, they have supplies for one month, the supply ships end up on the bottom of the straight. If they go on the offensive, they risk running out of ammo. If they stay put, they run out of food. Where would Taiwan park its helicopters that the Chinese cruise missiles can't reach? China will attempt a preemptive strike strategy to destroy as much defense infrastructure as possible. Helicopters need air superiority in order to operate effectively.

[@morrischen5777]

@@generalrendar7290 That's only the case when there is no local cooperators set up some supply in Taiwan before the war started. Remember, both sides are ethinic Han people that make spys easily bland-in It isn't possible for Chinese to not prepare such operation beforhand on the island.

[@ivangopnik772]

It's not about winning is about crippling your enemy until they pull out

[@Crashing_CSS]

hey sam!!! have been watching since your vox days. and it is so so good to have you here on your channel!!!!!!!!! i never missed a video on vox and now i dont here. you are a genius

[@randyreese6413]

China will never invade Taiwan. Invasion costs too much in money and lives, and destroys the infrastructure that China wants to keep. China has pivoted away from building up its Marine Corps and other invasion tools and is now hard at work building a blue water navy that can keep the US navy at bay. If they ever achieve this, they will simply surround Taiwan and conduct a sea based embargo and choke off Taiwan until they accept PRC rule. China would need to surround Taiwan and keep the US at bay if it ever wants to invade Taiwan, and if it has the military might to surround Taiwan and hold off the US, there is no need to invade.

[@yesyes1842]

Actually the main downside of Taiwan's strategy is willingly being used by larger countries competing geopolitically, while knowing under all possible scenarios of war it'll likely take place 95%+ within the island of Taiwan which means they lose no matter what, for the interest of larger countries competing against each other. If I'm running Taiwan, I would somehow figure out a strategy to extract benefits from both sides while making them try to win you over instead.

[@oukichikichi]

Taiwan's leaders wasted the opportunity given by the Chinese goverment to become Singapore😅

[@icodestuff6241]

tbh if i were running taiwan i would just join china as an administrative region like hong kong. You get all the infrastructure and economic benefits as well as escape from US imperialism

[@sinocelt]

@@icodestuff6241 Oh yeah, like Hong Kong. Just like Hong Kong.

[@JamieLannyster]

@@icodestuff6241 yeah turned out real well for hong kong didnt it lmao

[@JamieLannyster]

@@oukichikichi become singapore? you mean like an independent nation

[@cabasadefogo9533]

This video is hilarious. As someone with family in Taiwan. I can tell you no one there wants to have a fight. Almost all weapons sold to Taiwan last 15yrs are outdated even when they were sold. The harpon missiles are outdated subsonic missile that are easily destroyed by moder CWIS systems. The stinger missile has a ceiling of 12000ft. Once Taiwan's airfields are destroyed, there would be zero reason for Chinese fighters to fly low. Typical modern jets fly around 50-60000ft in the air to take advantage of gravity in slinging long range missiles at their enemies. Mines will need to be deployed in the event of war. Yet within the first hrs the Taiwan navy would be lying at the bottom of the ocean. How the hell are they supposed to lay the mines? You can't lay mines during peace time since the strait is highly traversed area by cargo ships. And antitank missiles would be useless due to taiwan's terrain. It is mostly mountainous except for Taipei the capital. China would never bother to send large number of tanks. If there was war, the attacks will be initiated by electronic warfare first, missile wave attacks on power station, air fields, ports, electric grid, generators, oil storage facility. All within the first 2 hrs. Then taiwan will be blanketed by thousands of drones which are too small for a stinger missile to find and hit. Just look at how the battle is being fought in Ukraine. On top of that submarines are useless in the taiwan straits. The strait between mainland and taiwan is 40-60 meters deep. The average submarine is is 13-15 meter wide. Which means at around 20 meters of deepth, a submarine is visible to the naked eye. Most Taiwanese know that the only way forward is negotiation with the mainland and not war.

[@DanishnSonic]

I don't think China will invade Taiwan. China is more, "you're already mine."

[@OUoht14l]

I feel like the interview portions in the first half of the video were too short. Them being only half a sentence or so removed any context from the statement. It would also be good if you linked a sources doc in the video description + mentioned the sources on screen

[@niallk9336]

So, something that is never discussed but very obvious when you're looking at US base locations is... Japan. Specifically, Okinawa and Iwakuni Ranges of Oki to: - Taipei 400 miles - Kaohsiung 540 miles - Seoul 775 miles - Pyongyang 890 miles Ranges of Iwakuni to: - Taipei 900 miles - Kaohsiung 1080 miles - Seoul 375 miles - Pyongyang 490 miles Ranges of core aircraft with full weapons load: - F16 500 miles - F18 700 miles - F35 1200 miles - F22 1600 miles Make your own conclusions, but these are strategically important locations for using 1st MAW and 18th AF Wing as holding forces for 2 hotspots. It's a smart strategy, but it also has a weakness if China can manipulate DPRK to act in concert with them; or even execute a large enough feint (see: Operation Bodyguard) to make the US shift it's attentions elsewhere. The 7th fleet also factors, but tends to be more focused on Taiwan Singapore area, leaving USMC and USAF assets as immediate response to DPRK. The 35th AF Wing in Misawa is also primarily focused on DPRK and Russia -- while being much smaller; about half the size of the 18th. I haven't discussed the Army because they have no meaningful long-range air element, and come in as the core part of an established war but not an immediate factor on the opening chess plays.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I’m waiting for the Johnny Harris x Search Party Espionage Story because I think it’d be awesome! Edit: I was talking about fiction writing btw

[@SearchParty]

👀

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@SearchParty I was referring to fiction lol

[@SearchParty]

I'm down @@PokhrajRoy.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@SearchParty Yes!