Season 02 : Episode 07 : Steven Pladl

[@tookytook8150]

It’s sad when the 11 year-old is the only reasonable character in the story

[@earthworm7346]

So judgy.. must be nice to be around you.

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

@@earthworm7346 This is what lack of self awareness looks like

[@7eyesopenwide168]

@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 are you saying EarthWorm has no self awareness? Or Tooky Took?

[@BrainDamageComedy]

for me its quite refreshing. kids have a way of cutting through the crap and expressing truths.

[@niceockman8993]

@@earthworm7346 How is that judgy? You think its reasonable to breed with your kid?

[@Hunnie_B]

Ok, so let me get this straight, in the wedding photo Stevens mother is smiling as her son is marrying his daughter, and Katy's adoptive parents are smiling in the photo as they watched their adoptive daughter marry her father........there is seriously something wrong with those people!

[@gotes25]

I know! I just can't get past the fact that every adult in this case was so awful!! How did Alyssa's parents, adoptive parents and Steven's mom all end up finding each other? ! I feel like we all have probably known someone with this type of personality- simple minded, no ability to think for themselves or take a stand for what's right kind of people. To think that 5 adults like this were able to meet up and allow such atrocities to occur just mind boggling!!

[@metatron478]

God man....so gross

[@margaretlumley1648]

Yeah, they are all barking

[@britbrat1127]

Like.. what in the actual fck? I’d kill that man - son or adopted family of the daughter - before I let him hurt my child. Is this a trailer park trash thing or??

[@loretta_3843]

Makes you want to have a shower just looking at the photo 😕

[@germanncreekfarm62]

There's a lot to unpack here, but let's burn the whole suitcase.

[@Curiamacabre]

Brilliantly expressed!!

[@memomorph5375]

Accurate. This case made me yell

[@cyntar556]

Amen

[@petehenry7878]

@@barrettjamie1642 Spam account.

[@petehenry7878]

@@salvatoredash5823 Also spam account. Account made 1 day after one above it.

[@MichaelB-jw5po]

So your college-bound adopted daughter says that she wants to suddenly move to Virginia to live with her abusive biological parents instead, and then some time later you learn that your adopted daughter is pregnant with her biological father's child and plans to marry him and your only response is: Well I guess we should attend the wedding to be supportive? What the hell is wrong with these people?

[@MsNooneinparticular]

This is the risk that comes with open adoption, which make up like 95% of adoptions in the U.S these days. There's always the chance that the kid will get drawn back into the birth parents' fucked up world. They have the right to send pictures, birthday cards & other correspondence before the age of 18 in many instances as well. Most bioparents are not this fucked up but the fact remains: if you place your child for adoption, you should be forfeiting your right to be in their life. It's not your child anymore.

[@DavidMccallister65]

Hey "Love is Love" right? And "You can help who you fall in love with..." Smdh🤦‍♂️

[@jerimiller5651]

She obviously didn't get adopted by a very bright family. Don't they know incest is illegal and imoral? Supporting it? They're suppose to set an example. Well, haven't watched it yet. I'll be yelling at my phone. Lol

[@gordonaliasme1104]

The banjo kid in Deliverance...

[@Xinjiekou_新街口_Station]

lolz I got lost at the beginning with the idea of continuing to live with a man that was abusing your daughter that you give away for adoption.... because it was being abused the man that you are continuing to live with???

[@therockcasserole3563]

you know the situation is disgusting , when ONLY an 11 year old little girl has the guts to communicate, so eloquently ,her righteous condemnation.

[@shirleymarie2288]

The biological mother called the police and got a protective order for their minor child. It was messed up that rather than leave him when he was abusing the baby, she gave her away and had another child with him; but she at least attempted to stop the incest, which is more than any other adult did.

[@bolutra]

Damn, Narrator really got riled up when talking about what he’d do if an adult tried dating his teenage daughter. I like the feistiness

[@kjlandon9140]

I agree with him but it was different at that time My older sister grew up in early internet/ myspace era She’s 31 now. But that kind of behavior was normal My parents were younger (had her at 20/28) And by the time she turned 13- internet blew up These parents have no clue- even more than now- about the internet My sister lied about her boyfriends constantly, and would meet up with older guys- it was normal My moms strict, and would ground her and she had no technology, but would go to the library and get on there to talk to boys Parents were just clueless back then lol. luckily it’s changed

[@carolinefolk4730]

@@kjlandon9140 parents are clueless regardless of the era. Teens lie, and they are most likely one step ahead of the times.

[@yakiralovesall]

@@kjlandon9140 it’s really not. This crap keeps happening no matter what decade we’re in

[@almabirket7272]

I noticed that as well. Lol. This channel creator normally stays calm cool and collected- thank goodness there are men like him around with a balanced moral compass.

[@yvyxoom]

Exactly what I was thinking and thought I'd check the comments to see who else noticed. It's quite true though.

[@amylong9449]

'Alyssa said she never saw her ex husband make sexual advances toward young girls.. Uh, yeah he did!! You!!' Loving the sass in this one 😂

[@kylerdalton4488]

Exactly!

[@BRIANTOWN33]

so many people condoned his behavior

[@adolfolerito6744]

I’m going to disagree with this one, not because I excuse these two pieces of human garbage in any way (Steven and Katy), but because when he made sexual advances to Alyssa she was just five years younger than him. That would mean that they were both “young” in a sense.

[@kilrahbi]

@@adolfolerito6744 bro shut up

[@KatherineAcosta20]

@@adolfolerito6744 You're in the iT's NoT pEdOpHiLiA crew huh? Disgusting, it's illegal for a reason...

[@hmscldtrs]

His 11-year-old daughter said it perfectly, “ he is Satan”.

[@arcticfox7153]

This 11 year old , she sees things so much more clearly than any of the adults! Poor girl....the trauma that she has to have gone through. 💔

[@katybug6572]

Yup! He’s the devil 👿

[@shantoreywilkins651]

👿😈

[@2goblinsinatrenchcoat]

And I’m the 666th like on this. 🤘🏼

[@trishtrish9713]

Not even Satan did his own son😵

[@lovelywallflower]

I just realized he immediately started coming onto to his daughter when she moved in and most likely was planning it b4 she moved in. He probably told her it wasn’t weird because he didn’t raise her. HE IS SO DISGUSTING.

[@NymbusCumulo928]

She's disgusting too

[@Bethany0420]

@@NymbusCumulo928 she's a victim.

[@NymbusCumulo928]

@@Bethany0420 No, she's fucking not. She was a legal adult with an education and self awareness, she knew Steven was her BIOLOGICAL FATHER . . . She knew about the abuse, the manipulation, SHE CHOSE TO SLEEP WITH HIM "Victims" don't have any choice in what happens to them, she did. Stop absolving the guilty of blame. Steven grew up in an abusive household, is he a victim too?

[@TheSarahbee23]

@@NymbusCumulo928 big oof!! I have to assume that since you’re stating something incorrect with that much conviction and a whole lot of venom, that either you yourself are a survivor of some kind of s*xual assault, r*pe, or m*lestation, or someone you know and care very much about is (censored so KZbin doesn’t delete my comment for those words being in it, since the bots often misidentify content that discusses true crime cases/ healing after assault/psychology of victims of those crimes, etc and wrongly flags it against TOS) or maybe it (thankfully) never happened to you or anyone you know, but you have just always personally wanted to help victims of these crimes and have donated to charities for survivors, or personally identified with the MeToo movement and were outraged at how many people suffer assaults of a s*xual nature still in this day and age. Whatever it is, I am guessing you are saying Katie is disgusting and “guilty” because you feel slighted, offended or even insulted by people calling her a “victim” when you personally don’t see any evidence that it happened against her will. Maybe you think it’s gross or unfair to lump Katie in with victims who were physically forced or injured during their assault, or who said no the entire time, or who were attacked out of the blue by a stranger… they certainly never did something like willingly move in with a man if they felt unsafe with him, and if a roommate of theirs did something against their will they would have left and reported it the same night, not had a baby with the person who assaulted them and then marry him. I’m guessing this is close to how you feel: “When someone is a victim they actively fight back and say no. She could have said no, or she could have left after he tried something but she didn’t. She never did, so she was NOT A VICTIM and 100% FULLY wanted everything that happened to her” Please correct me where I’ve guessed your opinion on the matter incorrectly and feel free to explain how you think. I can understand how in some cases, for someone who’s assault WAS violent, or for someone who made it very clear they did not consent during their assault, seeing someone who was not physically forced or injured be labeled a “victim” and lumped into the exact same group as people who WERE forced or injured during their assault could bring up lots of negative emotions. To them, it might feel unfair to group someone who seemed “willing” and didn’t get hurt in with victims of assault who went through something horrible that hurt them, which they never asked for. I understand that if you feel like Katie “wanted” all of it and fully contended, it would upset you for people to call her a victim. Thing is, Katie underwent something that psychologists call “grooming”. Her biological father groomed her into whatever he wanted, which happened to be accepting his advances and allowing him to do what he wanted. Katie, who started speaking to them before she was 18 and moved there when she was 18, was nowhere near as emotionally mature as a 40-something adult, she was not emotionally as developed as a 40-something yr old adult, she had nowhere near as many experiences as he did and didn’t even have enough experiences yet to always make the best choice for herself. She had JUST turned 18, so she wasn’t on the far side of 18 she was basically still 17. Medical science has proven that our brain doesn’t finish fully growing and developing until around 26 years old, and until the brain is finished growing, it cannot be expected to be on the EXACT same level as a brain that is fully grown. It will make silly mistakes, it has more to learn, it isn’t fully developed yet. You dont have to trust me. Google it; look up all the ways that a brain that isn’t fully matured affects kids and young 20-somethings behavior and choices, and how they see the world, google can explain it a lot better then I can. Someone being groomed by a predatory figure into accepting their advances is not “consenting”. When you’re groomed by someone and they are effectively able to manipulate your actions, you’re not able to give true consent to them because they are controlling you and manipulating you into allowing them to do what they want you to. Someone who has been groomed may verbally tell their abuser that they consent to something, but that is in no way true honest consent between two equal partners. The abuser and person being groomed are NOT equals in the relationship, the abuser controls and manipulates the person they are grooming, strong arming them and forcing them into things, coercing them to finally agree to things, constantly badgering them and heightening the anxiety until they agree with things - there are lots of awful ways groomers get people to do what they want, but none of it is the same as true, actual consent between two partners who are equals in the relationship and trust each other. So no, Katie did not “consent” to this relationship with her father, she was manipulated into saying yes for a very short while. And almost IMMEDIATELY after the police separated the two of them, Katie realized what was going on and broke it off with him, bc she suddenly was not under the control and manipulation of her father for the first time in a couple years. She was able to think for herself and think something out completely, say what she wanted to do without worrying if it would upset her abusive father, and the people around her supported what she chose. It’s very, VERY telling that the very moment she was able to get away from him for any real amount of time and sleep somewhere else where he couldn’t be, and was suddenly faced with the fact that maybe the court wouldn’t let him be around her anymore in the future, she said she was done and it was over. Katie did not consent. She does not deserve what happened. She is in no way disgusting. She was groomed and manipulated by an evil disgusting man who deserves to rot in hell. Katie is a victim of grooming and manipulation, and likely of abuse just like he abused every other woman he dated. Katie did not deserve ANY of this.

[@TheSarahbee23]

@@NymbusCumulo928 also, I don’t remember hearing that Steven grew up being abused? But even if he did, past trauma only accounts for certain things later in someone’s life. Just bc someone has a lot of trauma from what happened to them as a child, doesn’t mean that they couldn’t control their actions due to that trauma if they hurt someone and thus shouldn’t be held accountable with jail time. LOTS of people have PTSD or other forms of trauma from their childhood and they don’t murder people, or attack people, or r*pe/s*xually assault people. If someone commits a horrible crime as a fully grown adult with a fully developed brain (brain stops developing at has fully grown by age 26) it’s not BECAUSE of the childhood trauma they suffered, and they still need to go to jail and deal with the consequences of their actions. There is a difference between being an adult with a fully developed brain who’s 40-50 yrs old and a life full of experiences who committed a crime, and being 18 years old, a month or two earlier you were still a child so not super adult , who’s brain will not be fully developed for 8 more years, who is being groomed and abused by an adult who you look up to and want to have a good relationship with. Groomers use the fact that the younger person enjoys being around them, that the younger person gets a self esteem boost from making people proud or being told “good job!” as one of the ways they manipulate the person they’re grooming. I’m sure katie wanted to have a good relationship with her birth parents. Steven grooming her and taking advantage of his daughter is the disgusting thing, poor Katie was being manipulated and the SECOND she got away from him she broke it off. You can’t blame katie for what happened to her any more then you could blame a 10 year old for being groomed and assaulted by a 30 year old, it’s in NO WAY the 10 year olds fault , in any way shape or form Rest In Peace katie

[@ITSAULGONE]

The 11 year olds journal speaks volumes of the morals of kids and the out look on the world. The purest true outlook before the world forced them to forget such things.

[@cristyknapp2889]

I don't think I've ever been more disgusted by a true crime story

[@-TheRealScubasteve-]

Then you’re new to this scene. Look at the Michael Bever’s case. This is a crazy case, but far from the worst out there.

[@shanesmith9820]

Me too.

[@LadyB2006]

Look into the baby Brianna case. That is literally the worse case I have ever heard.

[@danijo8932]

Listen to the transcripts of the toy box killer and come back and tell us how you feel then.

[@drewreich9274]

Marcus Wesson... Get a bucket

[@GradKat]

“He threatened to commit suicide if she ever left him” - oh well, problem solved then. Seriously, this is one of the most screwed-up cases I’ve heard of.

[@misanthropic985]

Oh my goodness are you really that simple ? Abusers never actually do that they just say it. Wow 😳 each comment I read is dumber and dumber

[@GradKat]

Misanthropic - get real! Obviously I’m joking. After your comment I really don’t think you have any right to call anybody else “dumb”. Jeez!!

[@brotherj7328]

My thoughts exactly.

[@rubytuesday5412]

~ I had a boyfriend say that to me once, I told him to take it outside, I don't want blood on my carpet. The ones that say that to try to keep you, never do it. How could they want to stay with you if you said OK just so they don't top themselves....

[@sunshineflowers3320]

@@rubytuesday5412 🎯

[@JoanWhack]

None of this would have happened if the parents acted like parents, and said "no, don't do that. It's not going to end well."

[@bri_guy508]

Seriously! This is one of the most f'd up stories I've ever heard. Especially the mother of that piece of shit steven.

[@bri_guy508]

And the adoptive parents. Everyone in this story and their immediate relatives (that arent dead) deserve to never be allowed to reproduce.

[@birdyw3324]

@Sleepy Momma Shannon the judges gave the mother of the father who groomed and impregnated his daughter from a teenage girl when he was in his 20s, custody of a brand new infant boy.

[@misanthropic985]

Her birth mom was a victim and a child to begin with. I’m not sure who your comment is aimed at, none of this would have happened if her parents called the cops on this creep

[@birdyw3324]

@@misanthropic985 the police honestly don't always know what to do... The judge gave the mother of the child groomer incest murderer custody. It was a dangerous move with no regard for the baby

[@Wardog01Actual]

This entire story is just insane! All of the "adults in the room" were more useless than babies. Everyone FAILED!

[@serendipia7177]

these adults went to police several times what else would you wanted them to do

[@ShutTheMuckUp]

Family secrets of incest are common as fuck. I learned as an adult that my uncle was sexually abusing his daughter, and nobody in the family did anything about it. He died never facing any consequences for it. It's not that weird that the adoptive parents went along with the marriage between the dad and his daughter. It's like people are so afraid of being embarrassed publicly by a family member committing gruesome acts that they'll turn a blind eye and let the abuse continue...

[@EYE_GOTCHA]

My grandfather SA’d my mother in childhood and it destroyed her. She grew up to be a cold, cruel, selfish covert malignant narcissist without the capacity to feel love or empathy for anyone. It took me many years to connect the dots and realize that my business owning, community leading grandfather was a sick, perverse mf. People do not want to believe how common this crap is and always has been. 😖

[@peachy_lili]

weird. when I was 16 at the same time as this story, my 21 year old online boyfriend from California flew to Texas to visit me. he showed up at my high school football game where I was performing with the drill team. I told him to swing by my house with ice cream because I wasn't just a teenager, I was... a naive teenager. My father very calmly came outside on the porch as he arrived and told him to get back in his car, drive back to the airport, and get on the first plane back to California. the guy hauled ass so fast he left a dust cloud and even at the time, I kind of knew Dad was right. he's fighting stage 4 liver cancer right now so I do everything I can to remind him at every opportunity what a good father he was. he didn't helicopter parent so I didn't feel the need to sneak around. he didn't even put his foot down that often--but that's why, when he did, some part of me inherently understood he was right.

[@Elegant_Sausage]

My condolences, I can't imagine the pain you feel.

[@Nah1980]

That’s a great dad for sure ❤️

[@saima84]

God bless your father’s heart ❤️

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

One of my sister's friends wasn't so lucky when they were teens. She met the older guy in person at a movie theater and he took her into a bathroom stall and sod0mized her. I know her mom eventually found out, but I don't remember what happened after that.

[@nafisaali291]

he saved you from the inevitable trauma that would come from that relationship. he’s a good dad.

[@BaDazai]

Eww! My Dad was arrested when I was 3 and he was released when I was 16. I think he had this, he was pretty creepy for a while and in a sexual way. He would talk about how it was ok for a dad and daughter to date. My stepmom was just as disgusted with his behaviour as I was. I threatened to tell my biological mom if he continued with his disgusting "jokes" (he would always play it off as a joke when he saw my reaction). He eventually stopped but it still lingers in my memory, I'm 30 now, I honestly don't like him much and rarely visit him or my half siblings cause I can't stand him as a human being. This is something I've only told one person and no one else cause I get sick remembering that once happened. It's sad cause I had gone so long without a Dad, when I finally had him back he was nothing like I imagined. I had feelings of loss, sadness, fear, disgust and anger. I tried moving past that but it really still haunts me and I end up pulling away again.

[@therosarylady]

Wow, I'm sorry that happened. It has no reflection of you, you're loved and God bless you! Take care.

[@dadsandsons]

Wow that’s full on - I truly help you work through that heavy stuff - that’s traumatic - walk the path of light my friend and keep walking

[@angelamelville67]

I hope you can get some counselling for this and move forward. You sound like a strong person. Well done for standing up for what you knew was wrong and creepy. Sending strength.

[@jamimazada7428]

Its so sad what you had to go through. Be strong.

[@cocomunga]

Just remember, you do NOT need to be friends with your parents. Sure, it’s what most people would like and I totally understand still loving them despite what they have done, but if they’re extremely screwed up, stay away.

[@Drop-Dead-Fred-Did-It]

I hope the two remaining daughters are receiving some type of therapy. Authorities needed to know of Steven a lot sooner, like when he was twenty, traveling to see a 15 year old!

[@katybug6572]

Agreed!! So sad and very disturbing!

[@Playstation_Manuel99]

That's disgusting

[@feurigerStern]

No joke! Why didn't the mother notify the police. She was just as guilty for allowing the relationship.

[@frankboff1260]

Then after everything else the court grants him custody of the baby! Who in their right mind would order that?!

[@jeniferburton5235]

Ugh, no kidding. This whole case is gut wrenching. 🤮

[@TEESHAMARIE92]

This case is one of the most bizarre and preventable if the grown-ups actually did something about what was happening. The other part is the fact Alyssa put Kaite up for adoption to prevent Steven for abusing her, yet continued to be with him and have more children with him 🤔 Please make it make sense SMH 😤

[@reddogman6195]

@Anntesha Chesterton "I'm afraid not," since there ain't a flake, shred, crumb, grain, rumor or BREATH of anything beyond remotely resembling "sense" in this sickmaking situation. This babykilling retention pond of shit should have had its gonads put on the chopping block - WITHOUT anesthesia!!! - except "(it) had the poor grace to kill (it)sel(f)" to borrow from that notorious sore loser D. Vader, after its multistate massacre. (I wish I could have laughed at the Knightdale newsgiving cop's mispronunciation of "Henrico" (hen-RYE-co [County, outside of the "independent" City of Richmond]) as "Hen-reeko," except in the recounting of this incest-soaked slaughter story.) The real true horror though is how much of this is going on that don't get unearthed or reported - or corrected - since those scenarios haven't gone down the bloodfilled sinkhole THIS thing created (oh yeah, paging a certain "wesson!" 💩🤬) The state of this vile "permissiveness" to procreation-prone incest WHEREVER it's tolerated needs to be ended!!!

[@MeganAllen1738]

She's a victim of poor parenting and grooming as well

[@shirleymarie2288]

Yeah I didn't understand her having more kids with him either. I will say at least she called the police about the incest and tried to protect their minor daughter.

[@kyledamron]

Katie's adopted parents standing by letting that wedding happen blows my mind

[@bejbimama6689]

If I were her adopted parents I would come with police. What a sick story.

[@jennylovesjoe1224]

*Wayyy too many complicit people in this insane, tragic story!!* 😳

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*(►‿◄) I 🖤 MY GOD DNA∆RNA*

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

@@dootdoot94xo44 *as God I say to you Esau Edom, with each passing second, minute, hour, day, week, month & year you are getting closer to your LAST DAY, your END TIME due to your sins, atrocities & abominations done against me.*

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

@Carol Pitt *as God I say to YOU Esau Edom, I am always watching & listening to all.*

[@RaveInHell6030]

Why are there so many schizos in this thread

[@MLeibs]

Parental Failure beyond imagination. Outrageous.

[@misanthropic985]

Yeah let’s blame a 15 year old child victim Unless you’re talking about her parents?

[@MLeibs]

@@misanthropic985 talking about HER parents. And Steven’s mom! 🥴

[@ellemmenn2930]

You said it, so much could have been done to prevent this outcome... such a horrible ending

[@aridyaacob3172]

Oh my God, this is truly disgusting!!! Ewwwwww!!! And maybe the worst part is he almost killed his daughter by almost suffocating her when he shoved her into a cooler and then he really killed her. So horrific!

[@sammygirl6910]

Generational failure. Disgusting.

[@oliverquach9614]

I was taken by surprise by the sisters writing, very articulate.

[@loulou3676]

Children are often far more perceptive than we realize

[@nafisaali291]

she knew it was wrong at the age of 11. i was that way at that age as well. it’s so sad that grown adults couldn’t see what an 11 year old saw as wrong.

[@SugardNIce]

I actually think that she was fairly behind got an 11 yr old

[@J_West11]

Kids are smart

[@wuddafxuppp]

What do you mean? She wrote like a 7 year old....she should have almost perfect grammar and hand writing by 11...... thats middle school age......

[@Maceman486]

That girl seemed to have everything going for her. The most mind blowing thing about this to me was that she threw her entire future away to go live with her bios and sleep with her bio father. You had a good head on your shoulders, you had loving foster parents. You were about to go to college. What the hell happened?

[@sadaqahgreen3006]

Still have that desire to know bio parents... also she 😥 had 50% of this monster, the other 50 of that mother and let's not leave out the grandparents

[@pussydestroyer69285]

Because she was a confused child that wanted to know her roots. The main person we should be questioning is the predator not the victims

[@citizenvulpes4562]

She is a victim. She was groomed by her biological father.

[@sludge-factory]

She was brainwashed and manipulated.

[@sabrinaesquibel8794]

It's sad to say Bennet is more than likely better off this way due to the negligence of his father-grandpa and mother- sister. I think the amount of defects that would come to show as he got older would be too agonizing to live...

[@phinhnanthasone1231]

Her adoptive parents to show their support by attenting the wedding and SMILING is the icing on this pile of sh*t

[@ramonarickettez]

Fucks sake!

[@ObnoxiousCamoToe]

I agree that they shouldn't have shown any support at all, but I also think those smiles weren't convincing in the slightest

[@phinhnanthasone1231]

@@ObnoxiousCamoToe There are times when putting up appearances are not the best decision

[@D-me-dream-smp]

If only they had reported the situation early on maybe some of this tragedy could have been avoided. It’s difficult to feel sorry for Stephen’s mother since it feels like she enabled him a lot.

[@halimak625]

Maybe incest was rife in both families.

[@sandiecooke1465]

Not trying to victim shame but trying to Imagine somebody putting my baby in a cooler.. they’d have to kill me first! What a monster!

[@constanceskalecki4928]

In what way was your comment victim shaming?

[@aliinwonderland656]

She then went on to have two more children with him ☹️

[@Megan-vn3yt]

@@aliinwonderland656 that’s the thing that baffled me,I don’t want to shame her,but why have more children with a man that proved he can’t be a dad and is dangerous with kids. Also why not just leave him and take her daughter.

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*(►‿◄) I 🖤 MY GOD DNA∆RNA*

[@pepeishere7529]

Wait your not supposed to cool a baby down in the fridge whoops.......one second.

[@209_mentality4]

The most shocking thing is how everyone around them seemed to enable their relationship. Very odd case. I loved your commentary throughout !

[@xTwiztedMetal]

Honestly, what are the odds that happens? Surely someone should have stopped this long before it got to this point

[@KP09101]

That's how abusers are made, enablers.

[@sunshineflowers3320]

@@KP09101 🎯

[@namco003]

Man, some parents either just want to be left alone, or just want to see their kid happy, again, so they'll leave them alone. My ex-wife, when we first started dating she was 18, she told me when she was 14, she dated a guy that was like 30, and her mom didn't see anything wrong with it. She encouraged it. This happened more than once. She's held that mentality that I should be able to do what I want, because even if it's wrong, I want to be happy.

[@TahtahmesDiary]

@@namco003 Thats sick that her mother was okay with a grown man manipulating her child. My 5 yr olds would be happy to drive the car or eat candy all day but it's the adults job to say no. I feel so bad for her 💔

[@christmasina]

What blows my mind is the courts letting his mother keep the baby, AND thinking it was a good idea to let him still have contact with his baby. Wtf?!!! I hope the judge feels like it’s all their fault…. Because it was. If the parents were not smart/moral/strong enough to stop this garbage, the courts should have. So disgusting

[@Rezo3]

I love how your show sounds like a regular tv show then you're like, "What the fuck is wrong with this person." I am thinking what you are saying! Thank you for your hard work!

[@francescawilliams8177]

What in the name of Alabama did I just listen to ? The adoptive parents and Stevens mother attended the wedding. I am open minded but I refuse to be open and supportive of a father marrying his biological daughter. Never.

[@wadewilson5296]

And to think everyone stereotypes Alabamians as incestuous. Maybe a better response would be, what in the name of New York/North Carolina did you just listen to. 🤣

[@gkurose8671]

@Carol Pitt nah this is what happens when you're a horrible parent. Pedophilia/grooming and incest is something nobody should be "open minded" to 🤢

[@2anthro]

Both parties that you cite are from New York. Did you not listen to his mother's accent in the 911 call?

[@JorgePetraglia2009]

@Carol Pitt My dear, you have to research the meaning of the expression "open minded".

[@geraldwarren6438]

Eeeeewwwww, nasty!!!!!

[@jessmarshall7768]

Steven's mother smiling like that in the wedding photo gave me chills. How could anyone support that relationship? I don't understand

[@jameshopkins503]

Wow! The 11 year old sister had more sense then her older sister and dad. This is shocking and gross and confusing.

[@BrendaHernandez-qo2rk]

You know this is messed up when an 11 year old has more logic than all the adults combined in this story...

[@carahowell4260]

What I love about this is you always have information for people to contact for help. That's wonderful. As a person with bipolar I am always happy to see when people want people to get help and are supportive of that.

[@LINKINPARK262]

You have to give the officer that at the press conference mad respect for his empathy and discretion professionalism. Man, this guy is like the best cop ever.

[@crissreznor]

15:22. Grace: his wife broke up with him over the phone yesterday Narrator : she means his daughter

[@Algo1]

there is at least 2 monsters here, Steven being the biggest one of course but, and I'm not trying to victim blame, the adults in Katie's life have a lot to say for themselves.

[@thisisMONSTERS]

Yes. I definitely didn’t want to bash Anthony too much, but him going along with the relationship was seriously messed up. He didn’t deserve to die over it though.

[@pilgrimsnest592]

@@thisisMONSTERS since it was not his own daughter, i guess he really didnt care.

[@dmcguinn23]

@@thisisMONSTERS Steven's mother should be held accountable for negligence. She knew who her son was and still allowed him to take that poor baby out of her house. This whole story happened because of a bunch of damn enablers.

[@ObnoxiousCamoToe]

@@pilgrimsnest592 As an adopted child, I don't think people quite understand how true what you just said can actually be. People seem to think that just because someone is adopted, that their adoptive parents will treat them well and care for them as their own. I was the black sheep of my adoptive family and have at this point been disowned for over 5 years

[@namco003]

@@thisisMONSTERS Wow! I missed that Anthony was the one in the vehicle with Katie. I thought it was the Grandmother. This story is so disturbing, it was hard to pay attention without thinking about how F'd up it all was.

[@zannmarshall5243]

He slept with a 15 year old and then had to put his baby up for adoption because he abused her. Years later got her pregnant left his family, I guess that doesn't justify enough of a reason to keep him from children during a custody battle

[@cynthiacromwell8002]

He was probably abusing the other kids while the mom is out working I dont see how he was what?A great parent?UGGHH

[@elf3477]

I know i want to know which judge thought it was a good idea to give that p o s grandma full custody

[@AtticTapes14]

And that he was the biological father

[@olliedee]

You say that "monsters" is about the worst human beings on the planet, you did it.....you found the worst! 😪 Big fan of your channel mate, looking forward to the new season 👍

[@KarenanneT]

As an avid true crime fan & this is Monsters fan….A. I don’t know how I missed this one and B. it was one of the sickest & saddest stories I’ve ever watched. Kudos for telling it at times in straight out anger & disgust at adults who should have all known better.

[@707tgreennorcal7]

Are you a school teacher my girlfriend is in the education industry and she always has to list her point in A. And B. Lol

[@Jimhelpman]

I read something about that genetic attraction thing but there’s a phenomenon that happens when families are together that prevents that attraction. That’s why we don’t find our siblings or parents attractive. I’ve been watching this channel for a while now but holy shit this video was uncomfortable.

[@mindrolling24]

Yes, I learned about that studying anthropology at uni. It can also happen in small communities where peers don’t tend to be attracted to each other.

[@alyciamarie4163]

Yes I have read about it as well!!!

[@kb5598]

I swear it also has to be something to do with narcissism.

[@MeteoricCat3278]

Also apparently it has something to do with "familiar scent" that makes us not attracted to our siblings. That's why people with no sense of smell usually feel attracted to their sibling. At least that's what I read.

[@mindrolling24]

@@MeteoricCat3278 I wouldn’t be surprised- smell is a much ignored sense yet acts on such a basic level.

[@Anoneeemouse]

The adopted parent's smiles aren't very convincing.

[@carolinebrennan3864]

Surprised Steven didn't wait for his son to grow up and marry him.

[@lesliekendall2206]

😆

[@catalinad8466]

Ok now This is THE BEST comment I've read in a long time.

[@carolinebrennan3864]

@@catalinad8466 ty

[@numberone5680]

That’s a thought that should not have been written. Not cute, funny or even interesting!

[@clbl8706]

@@numberone5680 No that's not funny it's fucking hilarious.

[@ashleycollins8798]

I love this man's voice and how he narrates. So much more intriguing w educating details! Thank you!!!

[@USAF_Bride]

I don’t know about you folks, but I FREAKING LOVE the little anecdotal comments the narrator pops in occasionally!!!

[@marioallstarrr]

I love how all the adults in this story were just like..."hey could you not do that? Oh, you still wanna do it anyways? Ok i support it now."

[@ikapatino3214]

Just like my brother,his daughter is 16 and the guy she's dating is 22 23 years old. But the thing is they met when she was 13 14 in church he was some kind of youth leader or something and that was exactly their attitude you can't do that oh you still want to okay.

[@katybug6572]

Ikr?! It’s insane and ridiculous! Be a freakin parent NOT a friend.. and grow a friggin back bone! Ugh ..sick n twisted ppl!

[@rrpostalagain]

@@ikapatino3214 ugggh, being a “youth pastor” makes it even creepier. It is such an inherently icky position that attracts so many weirdos who can no longer get into scouting. Religion puts on an air of acceptability that lets stuff like that happen. Oh, he must be a great guy, they met in church. Who cares if he likes hanging around children and being in a fake position of authority. Honestly, fuck that guy and the whole organization that supports him.

[@laurasteyn1939]

Agreed, but since I don't have teenagers those types of parents always tell me "they'll go and do it anyway...." as if looking on whilst a grown man commits statutory rape on your daughter is better than behimd your back...🙄🙄

[@lovelywallflower]

They gave him multiple passes and enabled him

[@punkybrewstar83]

Steven's mother is equally as evil as Steven as far as I'm concerned

[@traceyjamieson4280]

yup

[@hmscldtrs]

She sounded incredibly stupid on the 911 call.

[@maamyesmaam321]

And dumb as a rock 🥴

[@ladymopar2024]

Absolutely

[@saninuzuka5133]

Hope he burns in hell after the shit he did.

[@Giantkiller130-t]

This is disturbing-right up there with the baby that was left in the swing with maggots. That still haunts me :(

[@jessicameyer7247]

Man, I just came across that story today, it is so unbelievably shocking... and all these people fall pregnant so easily...

[@ChristinaDuncan78]

That has to be the most disturbing one I've ever heard.

[@cypher249]

I couldn't finish that one.

[@kb5598]

That poor baby 🥺

[@AleisaAwesome]

Which story is the story involving the baby with maggots?

[@kingayy9267]

Imagine giving up a newborn due to her father's abuse, only for him to eventually cheat on you with that baby. His poor ex-wife! She was traumatized over and over again by that freak of a "man." RIP Katie and Bennett

[@shirleymarie2288]

She was already in the process of seperating from him, so i wouldnt call it cheating. I would imagine she probably feels immense guilt over the fact that in the end she couldnt protect her.

[@NymbusCumulo928]

Can we throw some blame Katie's way??? I mean, please? She was 18, a legal adult with an education and a relatively decent upbringing. Yet she ditched college to shack up with a creepy man twice her age, that she knew was her father. I know we shouldn't blame victims but come on.

[@alexanderwilliams6377]

Okay . So she could be “blamed” for reciprocating his advances… but he was, no doubt, the dominant one in the relationship. Also he should be the more mature person in this situation given he is 20 years older AND he is her literal father. All that aside, she eventually realized she didn’t want a relationship anymore so he fucking killed her and her family. So she “could” be blamed for having a child with her father but he is 100% guilty of murdering her. Those two things really aren’t comparable…..

[@andraclark9993]

I'm going to blame them if they do something as stupid as this and put themselves in harms way. 😡

[@mrfuzz241]

The mother wouldn’t have even called the police unless her son told her too. These parents are the WORST

[@SieMiezekatze]

surprised nobody else mentioned this, her own mom was steven's biggest supporter and protector

[@jenmiller1081]

The courts didn’t see a reason to not give him access to his son/grandson?!?! Wtf?! This guy’s mom is crazy, too!

[@lolly5453]

He needs keeping away from every family member imo, you never know which one he may end up marrying?! Ew

[@kyleirving7289]

“She means HIS DAUGHTER” 😂😂😂😂😂 idk why but I started cracking up

[@samsngdevice5103]

There is nothing in this video worth laughing about. I'm just saying.

[@peaceworld5393]

@@samsngdevice5103 agree ! Is so not funny in any way!

[@finaldeljuego1996]

😄😄Me too

[@RedactedATS]

Maybe it's more the sheer insanity of the situation that could elicit that response. The cognitive dissonance that those people had was so impossible to comprehend, it's more a laugh of incomprehension. Perhaps. Maybe. Dunno. Just my thoughts. I didn't laugh, but I was prepared by the comment I saw here, otherwise I might have laughed in disbelief ✌❤🇬🇧

[@ravenbrabson8731]

People react different to insane and sad things. I laughed too.

[@PersianDiamond]

Blown away Barb was mentioned. I worked with her briefly way back when she worked with truth seekers in adoption - she is absolutely an expert on SGA and a fantastic person to boot! She was just great and so helpful to so many!!! Edit *** your presentation on such dark subject matter is superb- not easy to handle cases like this I would imagine - excellent channel- thanks - a new subscriber.

[@robswystun2766]

this is MONSTERS: "Steven Pladl was reconnected with the daughter he gave up for adoption 18 years earlier ..." Me: Oh, nice this is MONSTERS: "... and then began having a sexual relationship with her." Me: Oh, god.

[@koalabear3427]

I don't understand why you would keep having babies with a man who was so violent and abusive, you had to give your first baby away...

[@D-me-dream-smp]

Unfortunately since he got with her when she was so young she was probably extensively groomed and intimidated by him. Domestic violence involves a lot of manipulation, emotional and often financial abuse - the victim ends up with low self esteem and are made to doubt their ability to “live” without their abuser.

[@McSnezzly]

That’s why you should always call out older men trying to date teenagers even if it’s not “technically pedophilia”. They go after teens because it’s really easy to take control of them, and the abuse is so bad they’re basically brain washed. Scientists did a study where they electrocuted dogs in a cage, and when they opened the cage door the dogs didn’t even bother leaving. They just gave up, and were too scared. If you convince someone their life is a certain way, they won’t know what normal is and they won’t even know how to leave. I’ve been there where I had the domestic violence hotline dialed, but I was frozen because being a victim is all I knew. I was scared for my life, but I was also scared to go into the unknown. There was also the feeling of not thinking I deserved help. I’m still finding out things I went through were abusive. If they did a brain scan on her I bet they’d find brain damage bc trauma attacks the brain.

[@NymbusCumulo928]

@@D-me-dream-smp Nah fuck you. Dont absolve the women of blame.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

No self-worth whatsoever. And probably scared of all those guns. Her parents failed her and she failed her daughter and her daughter failed her son. On down the line, a familial curse.

[@melodeelewis462]

So that is a lie in the first place,she gave it up for other reasons but is acting like she is doing it for just cause.

[@jwsuicides8095]

It makes sense that the firefighter can switch into a "practical" mode while on the scene of a crime. That's his training. Afterwards the trauma will hit...

[@DawnDiggetyNoDoubt]

My ex had one opportunity to hurt my daughter. She was 2 and had not seen her daddy all day and put her hands in the air to be picked up. He was mad at me because i just told him since he was 4 hours late the kitchen was closed. He then slapped my daughters hands away in anger. His shit was on the front lawn that morning and when he left for work i changed the locks for good measure. People that don't protect their kids makes me ill

[@sadieandersen9993]

That’s how it’s done. 👍🏻 Way to be.

[@rhino1876]

Good for you. It’s unfortunate but we need more parents like this

[@DawnDiggetyNoDoubt]

@@rhino1876 awe. Thanks so much for your kind words. Means a lot.

[@jewelsalustau9931]

You go girl!! 🙌🙌

[@ttime9987]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@gretabaldizon8894]

The 911 dispatcher during the shooting of Katy and her father was so aggravating asking the same questions over and over again and asking if he’s sure they’re dead. This gentleman said he was a fireman, gave all the info immediately and as calmly as he could. Smh

[@janedoe-ex5wo]

Yeah he was just awful.

[@Kittysniffles888]

I love your little…snippets. “She means his daughter.” That had me ROLLING! Lol!

[@marygoff3332]

13:57. Look at that sweet and innocent lil chunk of a baby. He is the true victim. So sorry little man.

[@NymbusCumulo928]

Lol you dont know. I saw the father's eyes, little tiny sociopath eyes.

[@ollympian_art]

@@NymbusCumulo928 dude it's a baby

[@NymbusCumulo928]

@@ollympian_art yeah murderous intent and severe mental illness are genetic soo

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

Big, gorgeous eyes too. What a beautiful baby gone because of incredibly awful adults.

[@RossWyatt]

@@NymbusCumulo928 That's like putting the sin of the parent on the child. He had three children anyway, didn't he? I would believe his last two are just fine and haven't committed any murders. Don't wish a baby dead or call it a sociopath just because of whom it's parent was.

[@adrianneguidry8174]

I didn’t know my father until I was almost 30. Didn’t and still don’t want to sleep with him....like ever.

[@Jayrezah]

"like ever"is not the same as never almost like you're on the fence about it if he starts wearing skinny jeans you might up becoming your own stepmother🤢🤮

[@adrianneguidry8174]

@@Jayrezah no it absolutely does not! You’re reaching my dude. Also I’m a big ol lesbian so “like ever” means it wouldn’t happen, wouldn’t cross my mind. Also, being sexually assaulted by someone who was “supposed” to be a father figure from the age of 3 to 7 makes your assumption absolutely vile.

[@Jayrezah]

@@adrianneguidry8174 no it doesn't

[@BlanketyBlank9050]

@@adrianneguidry8174 Jesus still loves you and will deliver you!

[@missconstruct6968]

@@BlanketyBlank9050 Piss off

[@michellekeith6597]

One of the most disturbing stories i have ever heard of

[@cayk9444]

What made it even worse (if that is even possible) is that the adopted parents supported this 🤢🤢🤢

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*(►‿◄) I 🖤 MY GOD DNA∆RNA*

[@johnlewis3891]

Alyssa is something else. She gave up her daughter because he was abusing her, yet she continued to remain with Steven and have more kids with him.

[@shirleymarie2288]

Im so confused why shes getting more hate in this comment section than the actual criminal. She was a child who was groomed by him and likely terrified to leave so she thought giving her up was the only way to protect her. 5h3n as an adult she tried to protect her by calling the police about the incest. Having more kids with hi. Was stupid but wouldnt have prevented this tragedy

[@johnlewis3891]

@@shirleymarie2288 The reason is because we expect criminals to be criminals. We expect pedos to be pedos..What we don't expect is for parents to put their children in danger.

[@madeline6221]

Not even 20 seconds in and I yelled "WHAT" out loud. Nearly spat out my food. This one is going to be something else...

[@angelalent4471]

If at 20 he was pinching and almost suffocating their first child, so much so, that she had to give up the child for adoption. What in the hell did she think he would do to the other two children?!

[@bringthepayne7561]

The 1st child....was the girl who married him....

[@soozanjbee6890]

How many TIMES can that damn operator asked if these people are dead when the guy says "Brains" are on the floor?!?!?!

[@marygoff3332]

I know being a 911 operator is a very tough job, but I agree - so many times, they act like idiots when callers need their help.

[@taydestiny38]

Exactly! I know that they want to get details right, but C’mon Man! These days it’s like you have to dumb down your answers to responders over the phone.

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*(►‿◄) I 🖤 MY GOD DNA∆RNA*

[@MuthaFuckaJones.]

They all seemed to be operating without using their brains this entire time.

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

@@MuthaFuckaJones. as God I say *the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes & the pride of life.*

[@aliliving7774]

Mr This is Monsters, your rant at the beginning on how parents must grow a spine? That's exactly what i say to anyone who asks about my parenting. So, bravo!

[@francescawilliams8177]

I don’t have children because I’m afraid I’d mess them up

[@lmsatafb]

As long as your not neglecting your children or physically, emotionally, or sexually abusing your children, its really no ones business!

[@SuperPeterok]

But if they do it in public then it becomes our business!

[@Liz-cmc313]

Kids today are clueless to so much. Parents to blame

[@lovewins9267]

@@SuperPeterok No it doesn’t. If abuse is witnessed of course it should be stopped and reported. Otherwise, mind your own business. This reasoning is why parents are terrified to discipline their children in public today. What ever made you believe that it’s appropriate to tell other people how to parent their children? Funny how people wonder why so many individuals from younger generations behave like entitled aholes. If I acted up in a store after repeatedly being told to behave, I would be spanked if the other parent wasn’t there to take me out of the store before it got to that point. Spanking was always the last resort and only in certain situations. I was very rarely spanked and grew up to be a respectful, successful and law abiding citizen. My parents are amazing and raised two kind and loving people. My father was abused until age 16, so I’m well aware of the difference.

[@lateviawilliams2402]

the “yeah he did…you.” took me out i’m sorry 😭😂

[@ShalomShalom-d5c]

✊✊ mad respect for you 'This Is Monsters.' Wish more people had your set of values!

[@joans6047]

You do such an incredible job with these stories. You're the quintessential professional. No matter how distasteful or shocking these human tragedies are, you tell them with decorum and present the facts in a way that really brings the story full circle. I truly appreciate the hard work and countless hours that you put into your research and production to create these videos. You're my favorite channel for these type of stories. Pardon my rambling, but I just felt the need to express my respect and appreciation for your work!

[@thisisMONSTERS]

Thanks so much. I will always listen to your rambling if you ever choose to do more.

[@mpatrickthomas]

He is THE BEST.He has a "radio" voice,like talk show hosts have on the radio.

[@Snake_pup]

Her adoptive father being a former military man and correctional officer really put his blinders on during this entire situation. It is extremely odd how he allowed this man to get so close to her knowing that it’s her father!? He knew right from wrong and let wrong fester for far too long. Such a sad case 😢

[@veedubz508]

Her adoptive father did not know she had sexual relations with her dad until she got pregnant. At that time she was living with her biological dad.

[@serendipia7177]

because not everything is blamed of others adoptive parent did not agree with Katie going to live with their adoptive parents, the couple was reported to the authorities, what do you want him to do? to lock her, she was an adult she is responsible too

[@serendipia7177]

also read the case, they called the police, katie was already separated from steven when this happen, adoptive parents worked to much to persuade katie to leave him, and when she leave him they killed them, READ THE CASE AND STOP VICTIM BLAMING, by victim blaming you put on the said of the killer and take out guilty from him

[@jesnemo2677]

As someone adopted at birth and at 18 had the same big to find out birth parents, figuring out birth mom and never contacting her, then at 32 finding birth father and discovering we dodged a huge bullet, both birth mom and me, this story hits hard and Without being dramatic, breaks my heart.

[@BirdGang6]

“He was reconnected with his daughter who he had given up for adoption 18 years earlier and then began having a sexual relationship with her” Closes laptop “ok, I think that’s enough KZbin for the day, take care y’all”

[@J_West11]

Correction: the mother wouldn’t acknowledge her son had a relationship with her granddaughter. I don’t understand how this even happens. As a teenager I would know that having a relationship with my parent is sickening.

[@Ingethel-]

Ok, this one got me. Revulsion from start to finish.

[@genericdragon7260]

Disgusting. The parents should be held responsible also.

[@tphillips6952]

Thank you for speaking out so forcefully against the f'd up "parents" surrounding all these people. Really puts truth to "birds of a feather".

[@serendipia7177]

why are you blaming the parents, they try to stopped these read the case, adoptive parents were not agree, they also persuade katie until they get her to leave steven , then they go for them and kill them

[@michellemueller7288]

The part when the his mother says, 'His wife broke up with him' you mean his daughter?! Just sick sick sick!

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

No matter the circumstances I could never see myself being attracted to any of my relatives. That is vile and an abomination. This guy got away with being a deviant for so long it was inevitable he would go all out and people would end up dead.

[@nataliesutherland7222]

She means his daughter 🤣

[@traceyjamieson4280]

and her gtanddaughter lol

[@darkmaiden1776]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GarfeelLzana]

This is like a top 10 monsters video in one

[@marygoff3332]

Check out the story of Gregory Green for another whopper story!

[@seekeroftruth6275]

@@marygoff3332 ohhh is that the bloke who killed his g/f kids ???

[@melancholygirl840]

Thank you for the suicide info. Both my daughter and my husband took their own lives. My daughter in 1996 and my husband in 2010. There is hope if you reach out!

[@Ali-kb8gr]

😔 I'm so sorry for you loss. I can only imagine how painful this was. Wishing you every blessing Marsha. ❤

[@melancholygirl840]

@@Ali-kb8gr Thank you

[@NickanM]

I am so, so sorry for your loss. 🌷❤ My little sister jumped in front of a train last April.

[@melancholygirl840]

@@NickanM I am really sorry to hear that! I will keep you in my prayers. 😢🙏😢

[@halimak625]

Turn to JESUS CHRIST, suicide is from satan

[@cherylhuot4436]

My God every single adult in this situation failed. Failed in every way possible. What an absolute nightmare. The 11 year old is the only one in the story that had a moral compass and said the truth out loud.

[@shirleymarie2288]

Umm the bio mom is the one who reported this and got a protective order for their minor children.

[@hquinn8635]

The narrator said everything i was thinking because what in the hills have eyes is going on here!

[@juliagaines8320]

I was over here saying, "Amen" and "Preach" to everything you were saying. The cops wouldn't even have a chance to find him.

[@kerrieW2628]

OMG! I think you are awesome!! The stuff you said about protecting your daughter and people growing a spine! Perfect. Well done for saying it

[@punkybrewstar83]

I thought so too. Getting a bit of a parasocial crush lol 😆

[@Dr.Aqueous]

I'm 6 minutes in and already on the verge of ripping my hair out. Who allows their child to get into a relationship like this?

[@MattyHam123]

7 minutes in I realize that she went to my college too 👀

[@richardjackson8658]

How did the grandmother/great grandmother get custody of Bennett? Mind boggling

[@nafisaali291]

She didn’t even have to give up Denise as a baby, she could have simple LEFT Steven. why did she chose Steven over her child & then decide to have more kids with him after he did that to her first daughter. This all could have been avoided if she left him & took Denise with her. It’s insane how one bad decision jus leads to many other bad decisions.

[@troyl200]

I've been following the most popular crime channels (cold case, missing, etc) for the last 5 years. Yours is one of the best and you tackle cases I haven't heard of before. I also like that you go by seasons and they're themed. Please keep it up! I would love to see a season on missing people. Lars Mittank and the like.

[@lorinlankins3004]

I gradually have mental health issues. I'm blessed to have an amazing wife, and kids who make me happy as can be but I still get bad feelings some days and want to disappear. Feeling like a burden to others. I know I'm wrong. But my wife helps me so much, I want to thank you for putting the help lines in for those who don't have anyone. These stories hurt my heart but warm it at the same time because there is clearly evil, but there is good.

[@truth4004]

There's no shame in needing help.

[@tr3ycuzz15]

I love how this is prolly the 3rd time I've heard this story from different people but I've definitely retained the most from yours I like you keep going back and keep re-suming up everything up for us so it all makes sense good shit love these man keep it up

[@kaswaro11]

@12:20 it is mentioned "how is it possible for the parents to be sitting there with smiles on their faces while the child they raised marries her biological father". I think it is actually in the adoptive parents best interests to remain within her life as long as possible, to make their displeasure known, and to then remain a safe space whenever the daughter leaves the relationship.

[@carlosdelgatito2039]

Never, ever, EVER think I'd say this.. That cop at the end, seemed genuinely concerned and helpful to those with(blanket statement) "problems." Any kind, mental. Emotional, physical abuse etc.. thumbs up👍

[@oceaneb7510]

This is the craziest crime story I've ever heard. Hope everyone who allowed this shit show to happen feels guilt for the rest of their lives. I love this channel, enjoying watching it grow so much 🧡

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*(►‿◄) I 🖤 MY GOD DNA∆RNA*

[@dortesandal4303]

The actual brainwashing and fucked upness going on here is clearly beyound the framework of conceivable "reality"...

[@kadzo6614]

Well, go watch Mitchell Blair story and compare.

[@serendipia7177]

why people is blaming adoptive parents, they were not agree, they went to the wedding bc they were worried, the couple was reported to police, and adoptive parents worked so much to try separate them, why are you blaming the victims and not the killerVICTIM BLAMER

[@cortney3798]

I really like this crazy ass channel

[@thisisMONSTERS]

This is the best compliment I’ve ever gotten!

[@thisisMONSTERS]

Can I use a screenshot of this comment as like a testimonial on my webpage and social media?

[@cortney3798]

@@thisisMONSTERS heck ya!

[@brittanjawild8149]

Holy Moses - that’s a hard one. I am from Germany and this is beyond disgusting. And sad !

[@marygoff3332]

HOLY MOSES sums it up well!

[@brianpj5860]

Wasnt there a pretty hardcore case of incest in germany, where this man locked his daughter in a basement for a decade while constantly impregnating her and fathering several children/grandchildren with her.......

[@brittanjawild8149]

@@brianpj5860 - nope - this was in Austria- but this things certainly could also be in Germany

[@zaddyholmes6735]

You say "I'm from Germany" like that should make you less surprised by gross things lol

[@brittanjawild8149]

@@zaddyholmes6735 Nah , wasn’t meant so . We have a lot of crazy things too- but this inbreed thing isn’t that often. Also illegal!

[@shogun_assassinalice2829]

I'm on vacation and choosing to binge on these videos... your emotions and mindset resonates with all of us here, and I'm all for it💯💯💯💯💯

[@malcador]

This is the most horrific episode of Jerry Springer I've ever seen.