Season 03 : Episode 01 : Joel Guy Jr

[@JohnnyD5]

It's ironic that the hardest Joel Jr. ever worked in his life was the day he killed and dismembered his parents.

[@punkybrewstar83]

Kind of, but he didn't even finish what he was doing, which seemed very on character.

[@kimberleesara9486]

And didn’t get paid for it

[@Iam.myowndistraction]

Oh man it’s so true 😳😳 that was probably his only day in labour he’s ever seen .... up to this point hopefully 😈

[@valways3735]

John Allen - True &now he’s retired doing life at the taxpayers expense.

[@GC-pq6vm]

Yeah but his ability to clean up ...fail lol

[@TahtahmesDiary]

Nothing pisses me off like knowing his poor, lovely mama worked hard her whole life and never got even a day of sweet retirement with her loving husband 💔

[@gina8710]

Love ur hair

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

Sorry, but you do not know pretty much anything, except for a couple of sound bites. You might be suspicious that all victims are portrayed as wonder, innocent people full of life. That's just to add a bit of emotion into the jury. It helps sell the conviction.

[@darken3150]

@@princeofcupspoc9073 Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

[@anisezettecarey2448]

YOU CANT TRUST A SOUL!!!

[@bridgetrobinson76]

I'm sure his mum was screaming, son I love you as she was dying. My god who in the hell dismembers their parents. He's not mad, he's pure evil. Joel Jr was getting cut off, lazy piece of shit! Oh well he's gonna get a job in prison and get paid in cents. RIP Joel Sr and Lisa Guy. This should never of happened.

[@maverickrhodes9892]

"My father killed my mother, then cut off his own hands, dismembered himself and put himself in the tub. How can they not buy that story, its fool proof" Joel Guy Jr

[@maverickrhodes9892]

@yolo crone I know that lol :) But im joking, think of it like this, when he was arrested, he said "My father killed my mother" and the cops were like "oh sure, of course, we totally believe you... 😉" ...This guy left so much evidence behind, even if he managed to get rid of the bodies, he would never get away with it

[@xprime2159]

@yolo crone so this means your the dummy?

[@MeGustaR00sta]

Lmao this has the same vibes as a case I remember where the lawyer said something to the effect of “the individual killed himself and then he planted the gun after killing himself to make it look like a murder”

[@Lion_Hamza]

@@MeGustaR00sta lol or the guy who shoot himself twice in the head 🤦🏻😂

[@lilithwilcox9074]

@yolo crone I dont think you get sarcasm.

[@gammaphonic]

Say what you like about the guy, his plan worked. He’s never going to have to pay rent or get a proper job for the rest of his life.

[@miguelsonofzeus]

Yeah, but tax payers have to flip the damned bill. Joel Guy Jr is an evil spoiled brat psychopath.

[@toniclark7093]

Lol he got his wish! The state will be paying for his " 3 hots and a cot" for the rest of his pathetic life!

[@cbarlow6009]

Now instead of his mum paying for his 40 (or however old he is) year old ass, it's our tax dollars paying for his meals and housing. I wonder if he was outgoing, friendly, and happy when big Papa ripped his rear

[@lovedannilynne1944]

Yeah .. he sure as hell did ! Smh

[@kaat776]

i tip my imaginary hat to you, sir 🎩 Bravo with that one

[@pitbull7440]

He was literally so lazy he didn't even bother finishing the crime scene. What a worthless human being...

[@deniserossiter1059]

For real!! At least he didn't get back to finish off the poor dog!!!! I wonder who has the poor traumatized baby.

[@Adriana-hp1eh]

Pretty sure he planned to go back and didn't expect the alarm to be called as soon as it was. He obviously didn't count on people caring about them enough to send police there.

[@andysaunders3708]

Doesn't sound like a human being at all, TBH.

[@Andrew-Ryan]

@@andysaunders3708 yes it does lol people are awful

[@bigdopamine9343]

Plus he left the boiled mom burning on the stove which is dangerous.

[@MargoIndigo]

the step-daughter’s such sweet personal details she loved about her step-mom, the engagement ring, her favourite shirt, the arch in her feet, her cup… that shows a love that’s so rarely seen in those relationships. that poor baby. 😔

[@avaverry9917]

I think she totally dissed her biological mom in that whole speech. Thought it was pretty gross honestly.

[@frankie7384]

@@avaverry9917 I agree, it was heartwarming to see her love for her step mother, but totally gross listening to her diss her bio mom. I always appreciated how hard my single mom had to work to even have a half full pantry, and never gave her shit in comparison to my father and step mothers pantry. She was shitting on her mom for shit she couldn’t even control :/

[@breekookie7036]

@@frankie7384 I would highly recommend to not make a judgement against someone with a two minute clip during a highly emotional and traumatic event. You know n o t h i n g about her home life with her mother, she could be an abusive pos for all you know. Stop.

[@wherestheleakmaam1543]

@@breekookie7036 totally agree. What we know is that her statement was heartwarming and that she clearly loves her step mom. We know nothing about her biological mother and their relationship. What she said is not "disgusting". We don't know what else was going on, and to insult a woman in such a traumatic situation because someone on the internet thinks she disrespected her biological mother, based on literally nothing is both ignorant and unnecessary. Thanks for intercepting this and saying what needed to be said.

[@zer0harts]

@@wherestheleakmaam1543 unfortunately thats how the internet works, people would rather make extremes assumptions because its not only easy, its easy to put those assumptions onto people they have no contact with and never will, you can put anything on that person and someone out there will agree with you and reinforce that assumption, no matter how baseless it is having grown up in a mixed family i know how she feels when it comes to loving a step-parent and looking up to them, but that step-parent would never replace your bio ones, regardless what relationship you have with them it just happens, you click with certain people better then others even if their family, thats part of being human

[@toshadevon]

Lisa’s boss is exactly the type of boss/friend we all need!! She knew Lisa wouldn’t just not show up!!!

[@mykv4792]

Facts! My boss wouldn’t have gave a damn if I didn’t show up haha

[@jeffhough7460]

Yah seems like she actually knew her employee as a person

[@KaiBrunk125]

@@jeffhough7460 unfortunately not too common. 25 years and I finally found a place that treats me like family. Thankful for it

[@jeffhough7460]

@@KaiBrunk125 indeed i know this glad you found a good place to be!

[@Kanyon85]

Exactly. Its horrible how the first officer did a wellness check and said everything was fine after seeing the cars in the driveway and getting no response from the house. How does any of that seem fine?

[@channelZER01]

He kept a murder journal. How nice of him to make it so easy for the detectives.

[@onajejones3259]

Thank you 😂 , bro really acting like he wanted to get away with it

[@katherinewood4198]

How considerate

[@Hotmaildotcomz]

If you could read his dogshit handwriting

[@bethanneshafer4987]

It was just to much work for him to cover it up he worked so hard he's like oh fuck I'm so tired after a long day

[@iloveplasticbottles]

And for the prosecution:)

[@pabloescoto7229]

This one just tears me inside, they gave him everything in order for him to pursue his dreams and when they asked him, reasonably so, to put forth some effort and sacrifice for once in his life, he just disposed of them like they were garbage. I have to go hug both my parents now...

[@majorwellington1858]

The crazy part is he definitely did put a lot of effort in dismembering and killing his parents that was truly a sacrifice his parents was an expecting. I guess now he will be taken care of by our system, so sad 😞

[@Kara-uf5qe]

@@Kensington2714 omg i was gonna tell the person above about that and yes they literally gave him everything even after what he had done and still forgave him and loved him and was willing to still help him and then he went and murdered all of them his brother codys death is what struck me the hardest because of the letter cody wrote to him telling him how much he still loved him and was going to help him all the way its absolutely insane how human beings like him are.

[@Ahsosauce]

Lawnmower parents don't help any children whatsoever to all you parents out there stop doing everything for your child if you don't they will continue to be children and never grow the f up you're not helping your kids you're hindering them for life spoiled rotten kids are spoiled rotten people in the future doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out that goes for helicopter parents as well entitled Millennials are pathetic

[@miarobinson847]

Exactly they paid his rent bills car school meanwhile I can’t even ask my parents for help I wrk 2 jobs and my child she’s 17 she works as well this is sad

[@katymello3547]

It’s horrifying & heartbreaking. I feel so badly for their other children. They seemed to be such a close-knit family & kind people. Sad story. A stupid, deranged man-child destroyed a lot of lives that day.

[@lias1762]

Sometimes I feel like defense lawyers come up with crappy arguments because they legitimately don’t want to let their client free

[@RabidChild82]

Or they want the trial to end quickly because they can’t stand their client. 🤣

[@SuperMerchus]

What kind of person would defend this piece of shit?

[@yvonnewilson2242]

I would be the LAZIEST public defender ever. I would play a game called "Pick Your Defense". It would consist of having a jar with strips of paper with defense suggestions. I would be blindfolded, reach in and pick one and whatever I pick would be the defense I would use. Like: Me: *blindly reaches in jar, pulls out the strip and reads it* "Ok, today's chosen defense is autism. Good enough."🤷‍♂️

[@Enrique-peralta]

@@rom8500 ppl don't understand this

[@Noneya1126]

i would

[@dasiajb]

The way he sits there like he’s in a lecture at school makes me sick. Pure evil.

[@namco003]

The way he smiled when they were talking about how his parents were murdered. Sick AF

[@visitjessiechan]

it's probably the most attention he got from people (and women) outside his family ever in his life

[@andiincali.4663]

He looks bored! Like he is barely even listening.

[@reignman30]

Rolling his eyes at the coroner as if to say, that's not how it happened dummy.

[@ariadneschild8460]

I thought the same thing, no emotional response to what is being said at all. He's definitely got sociopathic tendencies.

[@suej8159]

Every single time you see this guy the word Creepy comes to mind. There is nothing but evil in that empty potato head.

[@ADHDSOPHIA]

Potato head lmfao 😂

[@marc6919]

You mean Mr potato Body?

[@kimberlypatton205]

Definitely has an “ Uncle Fester” vibe…

[@navonmyhand7999]

​@Kimberly Patton hey that's rude to Uncle Fester. He looks odd but he doesn't look *that* creepy and weird.

[@sonjastanger5858]

I agree 💯

[@buttholethebarbarian8248]

His parents first supported him, and now our tax money has to support him for the rest of his fucking life

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

It might be worth it in this case. He hates prison so much, that he actually threatened to "claw the eyes out" of any cellmate they put with him. There is some value in knowing that this sack of turds will be sitting in a jail cell until the day he croaks, suffering every minute. I'm pro death penalty, but that is what he "wanted", so sometimes life in prison is worse than death.

[@LargeInCharge77]

@@eucliduschaumeau8813 i dont care what he wants or doesnt want. Remove him from earth and dont make me pay money to sustain him. Win win

[@SamanthaMagdalena]

@@LargeInCharge77 it's actually more expensive to execute somebody

[@ThePOPcultureHashira]

Those inmates really don’t get much, trust me….prison is hell. You should complain about the government using most of our tax money to buy weapons for war and not fixing potholes

[@Zzz2x]

@@SamanthaMagdalena it doesn’t have to be expensive though

[@ChristinaDuncan78]

This has to be the most disturbing story I've heard of. He shows absolutely no remorse or emotion. A true psychopath.

[@kristiesmith3843]

Agree completely Christina.

[@sethmarchese397]

Really? He seems like a sweet heart.

[@thetanvan5833]

He's a spoiled brat all grown up....

[@windwoman3549]

I guess you’ve never heard of Grant Amato. Yet another loser son who killed his own family for cutting off the fantasy life he’d created on their dime. Amato & Junior here would make for interesting cell-mates. Junior is an arrogant, revolting little toad & Grant is pathetically insecure & looks like a young Crypt Keeper.

[@misteradhd608]

there's much more disturbing than this, the bever brothers almost wiped out their whole household, its twisted nonetheless but this is monsters has documented the worst, watch all his vids you will be indecisive about which evil is worse

[@melissaryan1707]

Too bad he didn't put that much energy into just finding a job.

[@ooze8354]

his list: 1. bring resume 2. go to interview 3. drive to interview < cross out. can't drive, walk to interview. 4. 12 miles to walk for interview.

[@elizahhoward3923]

He could have been an assassin or some shit

[@maxpainmedia]

@@ooze8354 😂😂😂😂

[@ellemmenn2930]

Right?!?!… and they gave him plenty of notice so he would have time to figure things out.

[@ttke39]

I'm weak asl 🤣

[@diamondinthesky4771]

Joel Guy Jr's defense lawyer is the literal definition of "I'm literally just doing my job."

[@meenachadha3766]

I was going to respond that the defence was doing their job and God forbid he appeals stating his defense was weak. By providing their due diligence there is less possibility for that appeal. He tried to wrap the case in red tape early on.

[@valenzuela940]

I've always felt that in especially heinous crimes, court appointed defense attorneys do the bare minimum. They do enough to prevent an appeal from being approved and less enough to get the point across that they believe their client is a monster.

[@meenachadha3766]

@@valenzuela940 he actually was clever enough to request no defense and ask to represent himself to hold up the case in red tape ... the judge denied self representation and he was given court council. I do think he may appeal the matter that he was given defence he did not choose, however I dont think that will pass through .... one has to demonstrate they have a working knowledge of the law to represent himself ... which he doesn't have

[@WobblesandBean]

@@valenzuela940 Same goes for Chandler Halderson's lawyer. Everyone mocks her for a weak defense, yet I never hear anyone mention Joel Jr's lawyer. Look what they both had to work with!

[@Patienthost]

With all that evidence he knows say anything stupid. Doesn't matter

[@maggiemoo578]

These seem like such good parents. The way Lisa’s stepdaughter looked up to her and loved her is beautiful. They just didn’t deserve this 😭

[@Leoprincess3038]

Same shes really sweet and like you said you can tell the girls adored her

[@JohnnyD5]

Seemed like nice parents yes but they could've instilled a little self reliance and personal responsibility into little Joel.

[@Leoprincess3038]

@@JohnnyD5 I wouldnt say that's THEIR fault. Yea he was spoiled but the daughters seemed like functional adults

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

@@JohnnyD5 there is clearly a processing issue..

[@JohnnyD5]

Please don't mistake my comment as victim-blaming. I'm just saying a good parent practices a little bit of tough-love to prepare their children to eventually fly the coop. They were clearly his biggest enablers to his arrested development. That's all I'm saying.

[@emo_penguin420]

This guy is the only "human" who creeped me out just by how he drank out his water bottle. He would sorta throw his head back with a limp wrist and then would violently swish it for 30 seconds before swallowing. The guy absolutely belongs here, he truly is a monster. The sisters are so lovely and all made it clear how much they love and respected their parents. Such a horrific case.

[@Sick_Boy]

Yeah, very Zuckerbergian, android attempting to "human" and shit...

[@Sick_Boy]

@Sandra Turajlich Makes me sick as a fellow adoptee.

[@emo_penguin420]

I was also adopted, but as an infant. I feel like the example with Joel Jr. leans more towards anecdotal, as l feel he would have killed no matter what... but that's just speculative and only Joel Jr. knows what exactly happened.

[@HumanHamCube]

The way Mark Zuckerberg drinks water freaks me out too

[@lauradouglass3187]

@Sandra Turajlich I haven’t been able to find anything about him being adopted; do you have a source?

[@nobodysbaby5048]

That ME was a pro. You could tell this was one of the most horrific sights she'd ever seen but she was credible & complete & did her job as completely as possible.

[@chansevanatta9606]

The stepdaughter made the stepmother sound like a perfect mother which makes this whole situation even more sad

[@iksandra99]

hi got al her monny

[@brendakabanda2181]

I noticed that too yet she raised this stick of uselessness.

[@chansevanatta9606]

@@brendakabanda2181 I'm sure he's getting special treatment from the inmates. You know what they say about Karma.

[@yo-rh8lk]

@@chansevanatta9606 he wont. Prison does good to murderers. Its crimes like pedophilia that are treated like shit in prison.

[@buddhafortune6166]

She had to be she was working just to give all her money to her son. Paid his bills etc. that’s a amazing woman. Not a lot of people would do that for there adult children .

[@StikbotAdventure]

So creepy seeing his mom bagging groceries having no idea that she was going to be dead in a few minutes.

[@Sammy-mp9xn]

And her own head boiling in her heirloom stock pot.😱

[@jessicat2978]

Yea I tough the same...

[@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554]

Yeah. Not just dead, either. Horrifically killed, completely unexpectedly, by the thing she loves most.

[@Taperack123]

Sad to think at the point her son was stabbing her husband at that point and she's probably thinking about arranging dinner for them when she gets back

[@mattschemmer3091]

@@Taperack123 Or the fact that the father, while dying, was well aware of what was going to happen to his wife when she got home. I just...ugh. So unimagineably awful.

[@alisonp3398]

Wow a competent 911 operator!! It’s nice to see that she took her job seriously. Lisa’s boss was awesome also

[@user-gj1me4mf5c]

She was not a 911 operator. It was the non emergency number. I just had to use this for the 1st time. I came home around midnight and a kind, old and feeble looking man who could barely walk (he was clean, well cared for and dressed in clean nice clothes) asked me if I knew where he lived. He couldn't find his apt. (All the apts do look the same!) He was so sweet but confused. I waited with him while I called around to see what to do. 911 operator said I had to call non emergency number (we should all put our local non emergency number in our phones). An officer finally arrived and figured out which apt was his. No way could I leave this man out in the cold, lost and alone.

[@jessemerrill6481]

I agree! I watched one of his videos the other day and the 911 operator was really bad! A little kid called in because his brothers were murdering their whole family and he was hiding and had to whisper and the operator kept asking him to repeat himself and talk louder! It was super frustrating!

[@carolrandall4514]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c yes it was a 911 operator. They answer all emergency and non emergency calls

[@msnjokindungu]

@@jessemerrill6481 would you have the title

[@4PawSquad]

It was sweet the boss made sure to mention the dog so the police wouldn't be startled by him

[@TaRa_K]

I remember being so engrossed in this trial.... his demeanor never changed... cold, disassociated, and unbothered... this man-child killed the two people who would have died FOR him... and seeing how the sweet sister and her children (and rest of the family) are absolutely broken from this tragedy, added an entire new layer of how tragically heartbreaking all of this was... all for selfish, laziness...😔

[@amyyoung2804]

Well said. So true. He seems devoid of any humanity. Horrible tragedy. I hope his prison time is difficult...

[@lllaaauuurrraaa]

All public defenders need to be paid more, but my mans right there deserves a giant raise for having to make a fool of himself in public because the indefensible client he got saddled with is too narcissistic to plead out.

[@Noneck1999]

Lol

[@TheAruthor]

The occupation that embodies the term devil advocate.

[@rosiecheeksandfreckles5310]

exactly

[@SummerAlleriaWindrunner]

Yesss thank you, you're so right. It almost made me cringe watching him fly by the seat of his pants.

[@priscamolotsi]

@@TheAruthor Can court appointed defense attorneys in the USA, refuse to take on cases? Or do they HAVE to defend despicable clients?

[@fyxation]

Kudos to the mom's boss for knowing something was wrong and insisting the police do a welfare check.

[@Juhani139]

Reminds me of Shannan's friend.

[@lorianngibbons7947]

Right, I could lay dead for a week before anyone would notice. Especially my boss, she would just be pissed off I wasn't at work.

[@mlisaj1111]

True, but not like this monster was on track to have committed the perfect crime. He would have been suspect 1 immediately no matter what, and I don’t get how these weirdos think “they will NEVER suspect ME when both parents are killed….the one disgruntled, ne’er-do-well, odd adult child moocher who was about to be cut off financially by the parents.”

[@maartken5173]

God, hearing Joel Sr.'s daughter talk about Lisa was so heartbreaking. As somebody with step-parents : you know that somebody's a good person when even their step-kids love them. Lisa and Joel Sr. deserved so much better then their pathetic excuse of a son.

[@Mediocre_JT]

Right before his parents retire?! Worked their entire lives, then once they decide to relax for the rest of it, he does that...he really is a monster.

[@abbynormal8564]

he has NO concept of what 'worked all their life' means...such a scumbag monster

[@JP-jc8vg]

He's probably happy because in jail he won't have to work either. It looked like he didn't care at all.

[@hvm5210]

Apparently he never considered he'd have a roommate in prison, LOL. he's appealing to have his own cell, I hope That never happens

[@sicNtwstdF]

You have to work in prison. For cominssary.

[@lilmissbloodbath89]

@@sicNtwstdF They'll find something for him to do.

[@charlenefaye]

It is in most prisons mandatory to work. And most jobs in prison are not paid. Wich I love for him.

[@charlenefaye]

@Cory Dinsmore Holly shit dude. Kity only said if he wants money for commissary he will have to work. Especially because you get nothing in prison so if you want a shampoo you better rake dirt for 10 hours. ... literally 🤣

[@seanthomas7441]

The fact that you can watch the Mother checking out at the grocery store and she had less than 30 minutes or so to live is extremely heartbreaking

[@Amvndah]

Wheww 😖

[@ohkaykaykayla2891]

Especially thinking as a parent we always text or call our children & hubby when we are shopping and ask them if there’s anything they want from the store. Little did she know what her own child that she brought into this world and raise had in store for her Smh. He had a lovely upbringing yet was drawn to murder by greed. This just goes to show that it doesn’t matter if there is abuse at home or love , if someone wants to murder, they will and they can. This world is so hideous.

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

Or the footage of the murderer after he had murdered them 🤢

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

@LaweiboDotCom You sound like you still live with your mom.

[@teresaeckhardt8954]

SEAN THOMAS,,,THAT STATEMENT GOES FOR WAAAYYYYY TOOOO MANY PEOPLE THEN AND NOW...IT MAKES ME SICK..LITERALLY...PS..I KNOW OF A SEAN THOMAS..ONE OF MY BF JIMMY THOMASs LITTLE BROTHERS IN ARIZONA...if this is you i am praying daily for your pa...🙏😇🙏🌹🙏

[@allycat824]

This guy enjoyed everyone having to hear about what he did to his parents.

[@saradavis1935]

I watched the whole trial he knew he was caught bang to rights he had no defence he went to trial for exactly for that reason!

[@Comrade_Jason]

His name is Joel Guy, not This Guy.

[@allycat824]

@@Comrade_Jason I know that's his name, I chose not to refer to him by name. Guy can be replaced by man if you wish.

[@Comrade_Jason]

I joke. No offense intended.

[@amandaroman3471]

Humans have names. Wild animals do not.

[@canadiandee6342]

The fact that he doesn’t even look down as he listens to people describe his dismembered parents, something is definitely missing there. Everyone was lucky he didn’t go wrong long before that.

[@claudiat.2662]

Since Joel jr never had a job, he didn’t know that his mother missing work would look suspicious. This guy thought he had all the time in the world....

[@aoefeable]

Plus he never cared for anyone so couldn’t imagine that people care for others.

[@kissarococo2459]

really bad theory of mind this guy has.

[@krispeterson1021]

He didn't have any idea... thought every body was as worthless as he was.

[@miarobinson847]

Exactly

[@katymello3547]

Just think, if he wasn’t such a meat nugget he could have possibly gotten away with it, or at the very least had way more time if he waited until the day that was supposed to be her last day of work. Suspicion would have taken much longer. Thank god this man is not only heinous but stupid as shit.

[@MichaelB-jw5po]

I like how he didn't only outline the crime step by step, but also felt the need to write down his motivation. As if he was going to forget why he was killing his parents.

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

I found his notes weird too. If I had to write down an elaborate plan, I'd only use keywords and it'd be hard to understand for others. Maybe this is because of our media saturated society, where people now do private things as if other people are or will be watching them.

[@BlueSkyCountry]

Just like the FBI when they are hatching up "right wing" plots to kidnap governors or storm capitol buildings.

[@samman9738]

@@BlueSkyCountry don’t bring your shitty politics and conspiracies into this terrible tragedy.

[@glamdolly30]

He has a severe personality disorder. They don't think like normal people.

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

@@glamdolly30 What personality disorder is it? How do you know he has it?

[@alexcoal5111]

"They have a dog named Jake & I think he's a big baby" That tore me up. That poor baby.

[@bradhoward2410]

Did they indicate what happened to the dog? I only listened to half the podcast.

[@alexcoal5111]

@@bradhoward2410 the dog was fine in the end

[@thelastminmom5251]

The dog wasn’t killed. He was locked in the bathroom barking when detectives arrived. Only silver lining here.

[@americandevo]

Funny how I listen to the gory details of a horrific murder but as soon as I hear a dog crying for help I'm like "oh my God that poor baby!!!"

[@Tero92]

​@@americandevo its actually not funny, weird asf "poor baby" tfo

[@evanwallace8683]

I can never get over just how creepy it is watching people on camera or in pictures just before they die. Mom was doing a normal thing at Walmart little did she know what was going on at home and she would be dead very shortly. So sad

[@kensirhan2]

@Evan Wallace "You're right there" for sure, although I was also moved to weeps on reflecting about it, nobody in that store or the cashier - who if they ever see such footage as them ringing up & even chatting with their customers turned into victims I can only imagine their upset & distress - also had the least idea of how this lady's Just An Ordinary Day was soon to be on the far side of the universe from that. I barely managed to stir myself from the shocked state I was in to see that, but most of the running time here I just lay unmoving like a beached stick in the sand, mostly listening [the putrid ugliness of this Jupiter-sized sack of shit is too much for my "delicate photoreceptors" to tolerate] as this beyond dirty water to make Jackson's look like the Potomac River centuries past, which was the essence of clean, washed over my senses. I managed to take a selfpic & boy does "you look terrible!" apply there, eyes round with pain & terror in a near-whitened face [being of red skin like my Indian ancestors, that says something], but nowhere remotely near that which these people suffered as they realized they were being destroyed by what they all too late came to know was an unspeakable monstrosity - of their own *physical* making; they are completely blameless about its rotted-out insides from the lowest depths of hell. It was literally Eye For An Eye time here, this soulless blob should have gotten exactly the same sickening things it did for Due Justice - no hack dreaming up graphic splattergore for the masses can begin to approach the coroner's descriptions of what happened to them. Jeez that awful nausea is coming on again, M.T.R.E.I.P. to Lisa & Joel, & may that bloated misshapen inhuman Soon Oh Soon get what's coming to it behind bars that the jury & judge couldn't serve.

[@anniioakley9765]

Better to not know I guess…

[@sugarsmacks250]

I definitely agree 😔

[@marc6919]

Unthinkable

[@pfergie123]

I cried when the step daughter described how much she admired her step mother and wanted to be like her. Wish I could of met her.

[@Dubya556]

His lawyers are bound by the law to give an adequate defense. Listening to his lawyer it's clear he wasn't into defending him, but he's doing his duty. If he didn't, Joel would have had a good chance at an appeal for insufficient/inadequate defense. Don't bash the defense lawyers just for doing their job.

[@brandontrice1741]

Did you read the notes they proved he made? Any appeal is waste of non murderous people's taxpayer money. He literally wrote notes that word for word match the crime scene that is on camera. This is not a human being

[@JosephAgrane]

Well said. Why waste even a second bashing a lawyer defending someone who’s as guilty as can be. At least the defence didnt make up a bunch of lies, like claiming that the parents were abusive people to harm their characters.

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

The lawyer sounds like he's forced to do something he doesn't want. Lol.

[@BlueSkyCountry]

It seems like the defense team here did the least amount of work required by law so they can keep their jobs. They hate this incel creep's guts. They knew he did it. But they still need to do their jobs. A weak argument that is easily rebutted will serve.

[@immir6647]

Can you imagine trying to defend him? They have him on camera? The whole thing written down? There's no coming back from that

[@jf2835]

He was so motivated to murder them. Imagine putting that effort into his life and getting a job

[@heezypeasy8611]

He acts so entitled it's disgusting

[@HoneySun16]

He did this to avoid working. I just can’t

[@scottyfox6376]

@@rottingravensblood9106 To true..

[@BrewPackBuck12]

That takes more than a few days of effort though

[@BrewPackBuck12]

@@rottingravensblood9106 scammers i agree with, but the return for robbing or murdering for insurance money is much larger and it happens quickly...Its effort in short bursts not grinding away daily like all of us not crazies do

[@dnrw5230]

He seems pretty analytical and methodical with his lists. You'd think he'd be able to turn that into being gainfully employed instead of murdering his generous parents for their money.

[@stephenwest6738]

He committed the perfect murder by documenting every aspect for the detectives. Including a page titled "premeditation".

[@rickanderson8683]

Another case of a stupid smart person, or perhaps an educated idiot.

[@willbell1128]

Too lazy and entitled to ever work a job

[@abbynormal8564]

well, he WAS in college for 9 years, I hope he learned something, what a lazy evil monster...

[@juniorrantan4559]

I grew up poor but I was happy. My mother was a single parent who raised me right. I appreciate the simple things that she could afford to give me. How this guy can dismembered his parents after all they did for him. This is the worst case ever.

[@swistedfilms]

Money makes people crazy. I'm not saying that excuses his actions, not at all. But what I am saying is that when a huge pile of money is on the line then people will do some desperate things to get their hands on it. Go ask a lawyer who deals with probate cases and she'll tell you some stories about families being at each other's throats over even moderate inheritances.

[@latashaedwards8224]

Yes it is spare the rod spoil the child

[@Dougie19xx]

AMEN!!!!

[@margaret6839]

The completely calm, untroubled look on this guy's face as he's hearing the descriptions of his parents' injuries. It's monstrous. Monsters is the right word.

[@truartist5379]

You dk poor… trust me, I have stories that you’d dread

[@emmcee662]

Cold emotionless eyes as he listens to the testimony - at times almost smirking and looking smug. What a disgusting narcissistic creep.

[@crazyshemshem7897]

Ye i noticed that he was holding back the smile hard

[@wendyr1580]

I hope he becomes someone’s little b*tch in prison. I don’t think he’ll be quite so smug.

[@ana-bananainca790]

I wonder if he thought he would get away with it? He sure looked super comfy while ME explained the damage on the bodies. What’s fucking creep.

[@43MinutesWithJamieRose]

Duping delight. Narcissists with psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies can’t resist smirking.

[@wendyr1580]

@@43MinutesWithJamieRose Yes!

[@michaelmarke4265]

I like how your channel shows actual footage of the people and courtroom footage surrounding the case. A lot of shitty lower quality crime channels would do a 4 minute video in this case and just be them reading a short article over a mugshot photo. Your hard work shows, thank you sir

[@Tmr1221]

Yeah I like the testimony footage too.

[@Johnjohn-dt6hw]

These videos make my night I hope your a millionaire my friend kudos on the narration and footwork ..bravo

[@_SoCalDude_]

Yes, sooo many shitty generic JCS knockoffs. This channel is a gem and stands on it's own regardless of the recent JCS wannabes

[@kingayy9267]

Some viewers _prefer_ a quick overview of cases that hit the media, so they know the basics without devoting much time to details. It's possible to appreciate this channel's awesome content and hard work they put into it without talking crap about other channels.

[@PresidentGuile]

I feel the opposite tbh. He just pads out his videos with clips that he doesn’t have to edit. Easy way to get your videos to a good length for the algorithm without actually doing any more work.

[@LisaW509]

I watched his entire trial when it happened. This guy is absolutely proud of what he did.

[@StevieDee64]

😅😅😮😅😢😅

[@clarissa8477]

That stupid face shield makes him look even more insane.

[@christinewestonchandler1]

Fax😂

[@robertapascal6962]

Well so would a stupid mask but at least we can see his true expression. Or lack of.

[@shannondoyle2694]

He's afraid he might catch a conscience

[@scottyfox6376]

Insane or rat cunning ? He's not a man just a pathetic self centred moocher..

[@dinavillarreal5642]

🤣🤣💯

[@sailormoon206]

Defense Attorney: My client did not murder his parents because he was outgoing, friendly, & happy. I rest my case.

[@johnrice1943]

Playing the hand he was dealt

[@timothywideman6837]

That’s why he’s still a public defender and age 85.

[@stevenspilly]

Thanks for the spoiler fuckface

[@kelseygilchrist1503]

And he repeated that the client was outgoing, friendly, and happy about 4 times ha ha

[@johnnyjitsu7014]

Honestly props to the defender. He has an obligation to defend this guy yet gave him the shittiest defense in the world lol. He clearly doesn’t give a fuck about his POS client.

[@Fearinferno3622]

It's funny how he was thinking he was going to get EVERYTHING of their when he had 3 sisters and wasn't even the executor of their estate. LMFAO. "All Mine." NO BITCH, that PRISON CELL is ALL YOURS

[@indianapolisjones1615]

No... He has to share that cell and hopefully his bunkie likes clappin cheeks.

[@stalks1413]

@@indianapolisjones1615 I think he likes his cheeks clappin? 🤫🤔😂

[@SOLONANS72]

@@stalks1413 And do😂😂😂

[@BasketofDeplorableGarbage]

As I understand it, those are his (paternal) half-sisters. By killing his father, he expected to be the sole beneficiary of his mother's $500,000 life insurance policy, as he is her only child. He expected to receive 1/4 of his father's estate, which would've been divided between himself and his three half-sisters. His half-sister was the executor of their father's estate.

[@shotforshot5983]

Even the prison cell isn't his, he's merely ordered to be in it. Borrowed time, a date with the devil.

[@peggybreidenbach8703]

I love the no nonsense, straight forward narrative of this program. I've watched several of the shows & will be watching many more.

[@Novastar314]

One of most selfish,spoiled,disgusting excuse for a son I have heard of. His parents were so in love too...you can just see it. This kind of criminal scares me the most. THAT boss tho. She really saved this case. Seriously, God Bless her. Also...kinda LOVE how he had to wear that face shield during trial...too bad it didn't have some covid droplets on it just for him...come to think of it, that's still too gentle for him. If anyone you know has been infected, please know I mean no disrespect and I don't intentionally mean to make light of it. Take care of eachother everyone.

[@JFK1962]

👍

[@janethalken8269]

I don't blame you for wishing covid on this monster. But if covid was a person, I imagine Covid taking the greatest exception to that remark! (Even Covid woulda let the dog out!!)

[@janethalken8269]

So true, I seriously love that boss. I didn't want to feel like I was 'jumping' on the first officers, but that missing back door knob should have raised at least an eyebrow?

[@kingayy9267]

@Jane Thalken Hindsight is 20/20. Besides, cops probably see houses in all states of disrepair, so a missing doorknob wouldn't initially be a damning piece of evidence.

[@reuvenroslynesq8954]

It's hard to imagine such a lack of any virtuous quality. Parenticide is usually motivated by emotions. Joel wasn't even left out of the will. He literally did it just to avoid having to get a job. It's not like he felt he was abused, hallucinating, or had any honor in who he stole from.

[@MCV-xg7kc]

I’m glad they made him wear the clear shield so he couldn’t hide behind a mask and jury could watch his expressions or lack of.

[@jasperarbogast6845]

Probably the exact reason why they did that.

[@littletinywalters]

You know I never thought of that. That was a good move. Watching these type of stories I used to get annoyed when the killer/s faked cried etc but to see no emotion whatsoever in such a gruesome murder is so nerving.

[@ApatheticBlogger]

@@littletinywalters I never thought of that either, that's so smart!

[@norgepalm7315]

>basic standard practice done for obvious reasons "Wow that's so smart, I never would have thought of that!" Bet you sometimes forget to breathe, too.

[@littletinywalters]

@@norgepalm7315 you say that but they didn’t do it with the other cases if you had watched all the other episodes so….. can’t be that standard. Bet you forget about not being a twat. It happens

[@Slowsiph]

I literally cannot fathom the stupidity of the "to-do list" he made

[@ricocheteraw90sthebestdecade]

Dude probably barely could read his own writing..dude went full Jeffrey dohmer

[@tommymorgan4677]

It`s not the first time a killer make a to-do list, not very smart.

[@paucalderon8326]

Right?! He thought he was some kind of genius lol

[@ana-bananainca790]

He’s been a “student” his whole life, apparently.

[@axeltheredpanda]

For real lol how would someone not think “hmm yeah maybe I should get rid of this paper detailing how I’m going to murder them…” but nah this dude just went “eh fuck it”

[@triforcetriumph7192]

How many times is his defense attorney gonna say “outgoing, friendly and happy” like that is going to make us believe he didn’t do it 😂

[@louisesullivan9828]

Don't know how you could decapitate your folks who had supported you til you were nearly 30. Crime scene was just brutal . He sounds so calm in court, gives me chills.

[@belinalug6928]

He's a psychopath, what else describes him.

[@kristiesmith3843]

Pure EVIL.

[@VinnyLam]

Of course he’s calm. He’s a psychopath who feels no remorse for what he did.

[@marilyndresser2377]

Who in their right mind decapitates anyone???? He’s nuts but there must have been red flags more than just a school wastrel..... there had to be... ...

[@cocean158]

He actually looks proud of his handy work. He is holding his head up swaying gently in his chair as if he is joyfully reminiscing about his big day.

[@IamPinhead]

I had a 9 month period of unemployment last year due to COVID and I went stir crazy pretty fast. I cant imagine not having a job for 27 years and deciding an elaborate double murder and cover up is easier than applying to Arby's.

[@FantabulousFail]

I didn't work for like 3 months last year after getting out of the Air Force and fell into a depressive episode because of my listlessness. Even though I was starting college in a few months and was just waiting to start.

[@TheRealJaded]

Worker drones love slaving for fake money. I haven't worked in 8 months and will never work for another man or be taxed again.

[@IamPinhead]

@@TheRealJaded Ok.

[@user-qk1iz9qe3x]

I've been in ur situation. It's hard, but luckily I made it. Hope u're doing well now.

[@ParasiteEvel]

Cool, did someone ask about your feelings? Im still looking in the comments for who asked if "IamPinhead" likes to work or nah.

[@kingcose2736]

Imagine listen to this in court after your brother merciless murdered your parents, i can't imagine what his siblings are going through.

[@lizelleswart6327]

Yeah his poor sisters they must be so heartbroken. And knowing it was your half brother that took away BOTH your parents.

[@danpro4519]

But did you know that Joel Guy Jr was outgoing, friendly, and happy that weekend?

[@Reeeeeee12345]

He's a total Chad for sure. 😮

[@mrdgenerate]

Welp... looks like a classic domestic violence. He killed his wife then cut his own arms and hands off (impressive none the less) and hopped into a lye bath. Its practically the perfect crime.

[@aidanflanigan9532]

Cant forget he also cut off his own legs after cutting of his hands and arms

[@lutralutra]

I didn't think I'd be laughing, but this comment is gold

[@Angelcynn_]

Classic murder suicide.

[@Noneck1999]

Lol

[@nicknazaruk4501]

Nice

[@hugoschkiglitz]

The embodiment of the 7 deadly sins wrapped in a slob

[@kayla2154]

when i first heard his parent did everything for him, even as an ADULT. i knew it wasn’t gonna be good.

[@k.jlmfharrington3437]

Exactly 🙄😣

[@ttke39]

Hell even Billy Madison and Step Brothers grew up and got a life

[@adamfox1669]

Exactly

[@NymbusCumulo928]

@@ttke39 those are movies

[@NymbusCumulo928]

Umm there are plenty of hardworking self sufficient people who murder and dismember their families . . . in fact those people constitute the norm on this channel.

[@ElaAusDemTal]

The fact that he already had those blue tubs in his car when he arrived...playing the nice uncle for once, which probably made his poor mom so happy...and all the while he knew what he was about to do once his sisters left?! How sick is that?

[@reelmermaid8844]

Yeah, his defence team had a hard time arguing his lack premeditation when he brought the bins WITH HIM...but he was Happy, Friendly and Outgoing, so......ok sir, you're free to go..

[@katmanluke7187]

And let's not forget the meat grinder in his trunk! What we all should be carrying around 'cause ya never know when you're gonna need it! Delectable roadkill maybe?

[@thealien_ali3382]

Girl Ur really pretty 😘

[@thealien_ali3382]

Lets do the dirty deed 😜

[@Shadmockk]

i just realized that joel jr wrote "lol" on his father's forged suicide note

[@OJASCKI]

LOL (36:36)

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hdakahidef]

Hilarious

[@MrPantslad]

His defense attorney sounds like he's just waiting for this case to be over so he can get to a case he might actually have a chance at.

[@rubberneckinc.8937]

Probably take a shower too & get away from this guy. (No pun intended)

[@psychofish2585]

Easiest money a defense lawyer/team ever made. No cross examination and no defense witnesses.

[@fabledfantasty7343]

@@psychofish2585 ... The majority of defense lawyers get paid very little if anything. I don't blame this lawyer for only doing the very minimal for this pos.

[@OG-vj7kp]

Rest In Peace Joel Guy and Lisa ❤️ your daughters/step daughters speak volumes of the impact you each had on your family and anyone you met.

[@abbynormal8564]

yes, so true

[@thtswhtshesai6d9]

This might be my favorite case you've covered so far. The sheer amount of evidence in that crime scene was mind blowing lmao like it literally could not have looked more like a crime scene if he tried. Every square foot of the house was either covered in blood, body parts, weapons or cleaning supplies. I've never seen a messier crime scene and attempted cover up. And then the icing on the cake is the notebook with a step by step breakdown of his shitty plan. It even says "kill dad so he can't take the insurance money ($500,000!!). All in one room is the planning (prove pre-meditation), a horrific crime scene, an unfinished cover up and a book describing his plan and motive with his name on it and handwriting lmao

[@Johnny2Drinks]

The defense attorney should have just said “I’m just here so I won’t get fined.”

[@vicoregano]

Lmao 😆

[@lawrencelopez9839]

I sometimes wonder if defense attorneys who defends proven murderers spend a lot on therapy and drinking. I don't think my soul can take such a job.

[@Zephialx]

@abigmonkeyforme This is what pissed me off about the commentary on this video. This dude was presenting the best possible arguments he could for his client, and the narration was talking about him like he was an idiot. No shit the arguments were bad, the client is guilty, but the defense attorney has to make the arguments or the dude gets a new trial on appeal and second trials almost always are less likely to end in convictions.

[@carolynwalker395]

LOL EXACTLY!

[@IsmailofeRegime]

​@@Zephialx Yeah, you'd think a series that presumably focuses a lot on court proceedings would understand that the defense attorney was doing what is expected of him, no more and no less.

[@shadesofpurple7283]

I wish they would've kept the camera on who ever was speaking in court instead of looking at the creepy monster most of the time, i honestly can't stomach looking at this p.o.s

[@lornaginetteharrison7168]

Totally agreed. The way he almost continually swivelled his chair, gently to & fro, plus the fleeting smirk he repeatedly exhibited during the prosecution’s witness testimonies - including that of one of his thoroughly emotionally devastated family members - definitely made for exceedingly uncomfortable viewing...but very telling of the certifiably endorsed status of this absolutely undeniable, _ACTUAL_ piece of sh*t!

[@Forrestjelly]

Same that things eyes are terrifying 😨

[@mrtoocranky56]

looks like that hunchback of Notre Dam

[@brennenbushnell9643]

Yeah he comes off as one smug little bastard for sure.

[@briannakarter9919]

LOL hell yes he does LOL

[@KimberlyBishh]

He gets to be taken care of for life, exactly what he wanted.

[@timothystone3360]

I'm sure it will warm your heart, like it has warmed mine to know that nobody will be there to put money on his prison account. He will have no choice but to work. In an ironic sort of roundabout way he screwed himself over for the rest of his life.

[@orangeoranges6727]

@@timothystone3360 thanks, this did warm my heart lol

[@rite2bcreative]

The only stuff he'll get for free is maybe a few pieces of paper, an envelope, and a little bar of soap. Even then, I bet he would still have to clean and work anyway. If he didn't, it's not like he would be able to enjoy much of anything and even if prison wasn't miserable enough on it's own, I'm pretty sure the other prisoners and guards hate him and will make sure he's paying for what he did

[@juniperconifer4408]

@@timothystone3360 this warm my heart like boiling ramen noodles Joel works his ass off for

[@timothystone3360]

@@juniperconifer4408 Lol brilliant, thats right, he gotta work if he wants any commissary

[@lesliefaison2954]

You have to give the defense lawyer a break. He really had to reach to come up with ANYTHING to at least TRY to do his job.😓🥵

[@robertovalero6186]

That just shows what kind of psycho Joel is to be honest.He dragged them trough this trial!!!!For what????He is guilty anyway.Like he is blaming them for being caught cause they reported their parents missing.

[@Iambatman_17]

He was outgoing, friendly and happy. Sounds innocent to me

[@crystalshaw8744]

@@Iambatman_17 Innocent!! Lmbo

[@IRLNotsanS]

Idk how defense attorneys for cases for these kinds of people can live with themselves. Not every person deserves a right to trial.

[@raygenxx]

Those notes were written out like damn baking instructions 😭

[@benlynch6730]

What is going on in someone's head to do this to anyone, let alone their parents?! Absolutely evil & vile sociopath

[@KimberlyBishh]

Yes! Parents that did everything for him, his mom who he stabbed over 30 times worked just to pay for his shit! Truly Monsterous behavior that was not caused by lack of love.

[@alysononoahu8702]

Menendez brothers Dana ewell Been happening for all time

[@BrownEyedGirl1367]

The way he casually swivels back and forth in his chair, while listening to the gruesome details of his horrific actions, makes me so angry. What a waste of all his parents poured into him. 🤬

[@Darrylizer1]

Well... they got what they paid for.

[@scottyfox6376]

@@Darrylizer1 sadly that's true.😧

[@maryburch346]

He thinks he's going to get away with it....his smug face in court...but he's gotten everything else in his life for free...lazy F#ck...sorry

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

Wait what did they pour into him? A work ethic? A sense of morality & decency? Empathy, loyalty, & kindness? They enabled him & spoiled him his entire life, & he is a direct result of that.

[@Darrylizer1]

@@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 That is for sure.

[@blondefringe16]

I’m actually surprised he actually moved enough to dismember his poor parents, they gave him everything and this is how he Repays them , a true monster

[@zeejayh6841]

It's excruciatingly painful the moment the coroner describes the situation of how the couple was found disremembered while their son is just sitting there, no f*cking reaction, blunt, and like just watching a movie. Maaan, that's your parents you murdered. You MONSTER!!!!

[@heyitsalannaluv]

right! it makes me so mad..like how could you murder your mom bc she wanted to retire..like he's a vile POS..like her money was his and he's like, she has the audacity to make me work..that dude is pure evil ...like the dad named you after him and they gave him the life those would dream of .I hope he rots in prison

[@greendragon4058]

Dreading does a real good job with the video that they shot in the house that is so sad

[@heyitsalannaluv]

@@greendragon4058 I love that channel!

[@greendragon4058]

@@heyitsalannaluv oh I do too this one and that one and human monsters are my three favorite

[@heyitsalannaluv]

@@greendragon4058 same!! They're so good! Do you watch that chapter too?

[@stefs7141]

$500,000 would also make me: outgoing, friendly and happy

[@SouthPawGirlie]

@Stef S 🤣🤣 👌👆♥️

[@deandestefano9328]

Lol me too😂

[@carinfelska5774]

Exactly 💯

[@PhatsyKline]

I'm pretty sure Ted Bundy was "outgoing and friendly". That was the saddest theory by a defense attorney that I've seen in awhile.

[@threatassessment606]

They actually said that?

[@jeannineroberton4019]

How would you defend this pos?

[@hiiihiiihi44]

@@threatassessment606 43:28

[@kirschrot77]

That lawyer is shit

[@KimberlyBishh]

I figure he had to come up with something since his "client" wanted to plead not guilty.... ridiculous even to him I'm assuming.

[@nca9364]

This should be a lesson to parents not to raise overindulged monsters. Teach kids discipline and appreciation for what's done for them.

[@stephenpmurphy591]

Something else happened he's very unfortunate looking which is unusual as both parents were nice looking adults. His eyes are rather bulging combine with a weak chin and a odd shaped head.

[@romystumpy1197]

​@@stephenpmurphy591yes he is very unappealing and certainly defective

[@katmanluke7187]

More appropriately, teach them to do for themselves! I can't help but wonder WHY they kept enabling(supporting) him. Clearly by his seriously deranged actions & odd trial behavior he must have mental defects of some sort. Diagnosed psych issues didn't seem to come up, but you wonder if them knowing he "wasn't right" is why they kept supporting him. Sadly they weren't aware he was willing & capable of killing them to prevent their support coming to an end.

[@madamvaudelune3298]

@@stephenpmurphy591 Some of the guys I've dated looked like uncle Fester and King Kong Bundy. They were sweet, loyal, faithful, funny, brilliant and great lovers . Ugly men market themselves based on their personalities much better than us. Trust me, it's not his looks. He transmits creep vibes on every bandwidth.

[@deniece0821]

​@@stephenpmurphy591My grandmother was from the South and used to tell me all the crazy old wives tales and Southern sayings. One is that if two good-looking people had a child, it would be ugly. Two ugly people would have a good-looking child. Silly, of course but she would say that every time we saw a situation where it would fit. 😆

[@helensmith5854]

Everyone involved in this case from the family to the officers...the jury members... probably needed therapy after this.

[@nicolebailey4426]

Even the dog and the people in the court room should have been able to sock him family first. But seriously apron strings should have been cut. I suspect his mother may have more involved with financial issues whereas dad has helped raised 3 independent adult daughters. Shame on this demon he isn't crazy he's a monster weirdo

[@kristiesmith3843]

Yes. I’ve watched so many trials and true crime. This is one of the absolute worst cases I have ever heard. That poor family. God give them strength.

[@tinamcleod3928]

Agreed 💯.

[@georgecostanza831]

I need therapy after just hearing about it.

[@Kyra_of_Kerkyra]

I feel like I need a therapy after watching this... Pure evil.

[@arshy45]

To be fair his lawyers had very little to work with other than "happy, outgoing and friendly". Their unenviable job is to ensure he had adequate representation so Mr monster has no grounds for appeal. I'm surprised you didn't include the really disturbing photos of him lifting up the legs of his shorts- that image alone is worth life without parole. He's the epitome of monster in appearance and deeds. Thanks for covering this one xoxo

[@arshy45]

@Babylonian Cowboy agreed. A thankless task if ever there was one!

[@KimberlyBishh]

Ew 😂

[@kevenwoods7939]

honestly I feel bad for the defence lawyer lol

[@mrsjaskel]

So what I never understood, he wanted to frame his dad for the murder by planting DNA under his moms nails, then he disarticulated his father? Did he not understand the problem that would create in the investigation lol 🤦🏼‍♀️.

[@BrownEyedGirl1367]

🤓🤣🤓🤣🤓🤣🤓

[@Katragine]

I was thinking about that. Did he expect the detectives to go "Well looks like Joel Sr killed his wife, dissolved her in acid, then cut off his own hands, killed himself, and dissolved himself in acid."

[@ssherrierable]

He didnt get to finish his plan. He was going to go back and get rid of his father and all of his body parts but he got caught first.

[@DavesLemonade]

@Little Aussie goes to show how self absorbed this guy is . If he had spent even a fraction of energy paying attention to her life, he would’ve recognised that she would’ve been held in high regards by her workmates and they would worry about her. What an egghead.

[@christineshade8131]

You do something once and like it you will do it again I think he really enjoyed hurting them

[@carterzealand5423]

The stepdaughter saying she admired Lisa so much that she wanted to be exactly like her is a testimony to the amazing person she must have been. Rest in peace

[@americandevo]

I hope she raises her son differently than Lisa raised hers.

[@savannahlucas1048]

God this is one of the most horrifying and vile true crime episodes I’ve ever watched. May he rot in hell.

[@jkh1818]

Possibly the first attorney I’ve ever felt sorry for

[@jimmyzhao2673]

yeah, when the case file appeared on his desk he was probably thinking 'why me'

[@MeganAllen1738]

People are mocking him, but I don't think he even wants to win this case.

[@stumarston6812]

LMAO I know. Dude had NOTHING to work with. I guess I'll just go in there and say outgoing, friendly and happy over and over.

[@denny414]

@@stumarston6812 Lmao and The evidence that would have shut the prosecutions argument .."why wasnt his dna inside the book" 😂

[@elionpluto]

the way he just sat there during the hearing with a smug little smirk on his face

[@traceyhateley3925]

im speechless !!! malignant monster

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Did you see how his eyes bugged out when they were listing the parent's assets? It's like he still thinks he will be able to get the money.

[@user-gj1me4mf5c]

In the U.S. you are not allowed to speak at will in court if at all. You must remain silent or you will be removed from court. I'm amazed how many people make the same statement ("he just sat there...") and don't know that you CAN'T speak (or move around/distract in any way) during proceedings.

[@evansomnia]

C uhhhh I think what they mean is he’s not showing any emotion. Nobody is saying he should speak up in contempt of court 🙄

[@glamdolly30]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c You missed the point! People are talking about the creepy expression on his face as all the evidence of his disgusting crimes against the two people who loved him most was outlined. He obviously opted for jury trial to re-live the murders - it was clear from his attentive smirks he was PROUD of what he did to his poor mom and dad! Every time they showed photos on the court screen of the bodies he stared ghoulishly at them, without any emotion and certainly no remorse. I so wish Lisa had been infertile. She was a great mom to her husband's daughters, and they were such a happy, and in love couple. Then that evil little shit came along! He was a ticking time bomb.

[@spf_500]

Goodness gracious 😳 His lawyer definitely took a few months vacation after this lol

[@ihatecabbage7270]

his lawyer is probably a public defense attorney just work to help defendants who cannot afford good ones. He probably going through the motion, doing what he can but never actually able to proof his defendant not committing the crime. He probably have another case after this.

[@PaquiPaqui73]

But before that, a long bath. The stench of guilt over Joel Guy, Jr. was unbearable.

[@dbx1233]

He planned to kill the dog too but after a quick Google search he learned that canines can't talk. Dog lived.

[@Anna-br9jt]

Such a smart guy

[@fraizerfitzgibbon1469]

The supervisor provided care and compassion. True insight into her employees welfare. Presistent and firm with the officers to ensure her dtaffs safety. I can say besides my time in the military. I NEVER have experienced a manager like this in my field

[@loubeelou2362]

Never heard of this case before. It's a miserable, cold, boring evening here in the UK and I needed something entertaining. I knew Monsters wouldn't disapoint. Settled down with a cheese sandwich ( on hearing what he did, I've gone off it) and a glass of wine ( and on hearing those written notes, nearly choked on it). Unbelievable. But my biggest emotion is sadness that this lovely couple didn't get to enjoy their well earned retirement because of this ingrate. And enormous gratitude that as horrible as the weather is here, I'm alive n kicking and getting to enjoy mine.

[@mariaolden640]

I'm uk too.........morbid things like this atevthevreason I look forward to getting in bed with a brew 🙃🙃

[@kingaristadal2566]

Y’all bugging in uk I’m sure ppl doing worst lol all they do is stab in uk

[@ronjames4151]

Is a cheese sandwich the same there as it is here in merica? Grilled cheese or just cold bread with cold cheese

[@ronjames4151]

​@@kingaristadal2566no here in this country we got more serial killers and murders than anywhere. They got old ladies poisoning people mostly

[@rafalIL29]

Lisa and Joel looked like the perfect couple , so happy and still in love after so many years together. I could only dream about parents like them and everything they provided for their kids growing up. RIP Lisa&Joel ❤️🇺🇸❤️

[@Belugamale8738]

Gotta say, most couples I know don't last that long, they often end up getting married twice or thrice, & when asked why, it's always "because my wife is a scum" "she was a covert narcissist" "my ex was a incel" "He's an abusive scum" lol, I was surprised how joel & Lisa's marriage was still upbeat & strong even after 31 years, they were really soulmates ❤

[@GradKat]

You get the impression that he really enjoyed writing out his detailed “to do” murder list. He definitely got off on the whole thing, including the trial. A very, very strange human being. He absolutely gives me the creeps.

[@NikkiC777]

He is super creepy. It is hard to even comprehend how someone manages to be that creepy. He was so gross and just gross looking too.

[@ladymopar2024]

100%

[@emo_penguin420]

In a different video of the court footage (opening arguments), the prosecution described the crime scene as something along the lines of a "diabolical human stew". Immediately after hearing that phrase, Joel Jr had a weird, smug smile and quickly wrote it down 😳 WTF.

[@Gioachina0279]

He managed to be weird, creepy and ugly all in once

[@Gioachina0279]

@@emo_penguin420 maybe he want to write a book. Published over his Ex roomate. "My Years with Joel Guy jr." Would not be suprised

[@littlepowerpuff]

lisa’s boss is great. the police tried to tell her everything was fine and she knew her employee.

[@raymondkymsuttle]

How that forensic pathologist doesn’t have nightmares after seeing that horrific carnage I don’t know.

[@KimberlyBishh]

It looks like she's really sorry she has to tell the court all of this horror.

[@Sammy-mp9xn]

She probably does have nightmares of his ugly face.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

It takes a strong person (and stomach) to examine murder victims all day. I’m sure she has the personality for it and proper coping mechanisms.... and maybe a therapist

[@sugainfires6943]

Desensitization

[@talex1625]

I once worked in a hospital and had my coffee breaks with a mortician. He said it was the children who haunted him at night.

[@pogostix6097]

What a piece of work... I'm glad the dog was okay at least... I don't even want to think about what might've happened if he'd gotten any further...

[@Novastar314]

R.I.P LISA AND JOEL .SR You sounded like such amazing parents, friends and coworkers. You deserved that retirement.

[@trahapace150]

You find their parenting skills amazing.....alrighty then

[@KangwithoutaKangdom]

​@trahapace150 right...

[@lorelaigilrour]

I wouldn't praise their "parenting" The daughter said they had no food at their moms...and only spent a month a year with dad. And the kid they DID raise was an enabled spoiled lunatic.

[@kristee4237]

When your kid has eyes like that, give him back. This is what happens when you coddle your kid like that and then all of a sudden tell them no.

[@codybarry8204]

lmao

[@maryburch346]

They totally enabled him ....I bet he wasn't even going to school !!!

[@suzieritz2957]

If he was really going premed. I don't see a problem with it. I know kids who do, but they aren't monsters. This is a sick bastard

[@johnrice1943]

Spartans threw unacceptable babies off cliffs

[@kristee4237]

@@johnrice1943 🤭😂

[@boopah4365]

Man that face shield just rounds out this guys look perfectly.

[@raamyasharahla535]

Lol, yup. He’s a bad body built cretin…. If Simple Simon was a person looking Heathen!

[@senorpepper3405]

Yep

[@WobblesandBean]

He looks like a thumb, and the face shield is a fingernail.

[@xminusone1]

It's the kind of face that you can call a "fists magnet"

[@stephenpmurphy591]

He's very smug & unfortunate looking man. Hopefully his life in prison is a living hell. The very people he was repulsed by are now his peers.

[@vanessashaw5365]

That woman…who talked about the times spent with her dad and stepmother…are so poignant. Even in the retelling…you can feel how wonderful …how profound this experience was for her sister and her. The stepmother sounds like the kind of woman easy to like. Which makes how she and the father died…even more reprehensible.

[@lorelaigilrour]

I just didn't like how she threw her real mom under the bus...mentioning empty cupboards. Maybe the dad should have paid more child support instead of spoiling his deranged son

[@drstevenrey]

For a guy that noted down all details, he sure missed a lot.

[@elizabethblanchard3023]

This video was not only heartbreaking but terrifying for me. My parents have my 36 year old brother in their home. He’s violent and has homicidal ideation. He has a girlfriend (who also is schizophrenic and is extremely intimidating and awful) with their two children living in their home. Neither have a job neither take care of their children and the whole family knows it’s going to explode. I can’t even go to my parents house anymore because of how volatile the environment is because of these two people. This case sent chills of familiarity down my spine.

[@just_cayte]

I hope your parents are still okay. They need to move and sell that house. Get the police to accompany them back to get their stuff and get out. It can not end well for them.

[@teresadavis6909]

Take steps ! At least the for the children .

[@nichellekelleysorenson3758]

Perhaps your parents need to see this video and begin looking for police and professional psych support for a withdrawal plan. Sending loads of good luck vibes to your entire family.

[@shelar8616]

Please do something before it’s too late ❤😢

[@Glitchedoutditz]

So scary!

[@BasketofDeplorableGarbage]

This is such a senseless and horrific tragedy! My heart goes out to their family and friend's, especially Joel senior's daughters! That poor dog must've been terrified hearing the murders, locked in a hot room, all alone, breathing in those chemicals and most likely had no food or water for 3 days. Thank God for the concern and persistence of Lisa's supervisor!

[@kayjay407]

He was such an evil idiot! Lisa was a responsible employee, of course they would report her not showing up for work....especially her last week! He was such a failure at EVERYTHING. My heart breaks for their family. I don't understand why there was a need to have a trial? Waste of time, resources and just cruel that the family had to hear these grotesque details. Eradicate him from existence. Imo.

[@lowblowmonroe]

Defense Attorney at closing argument: Sorry, y'all, but I have to get up here and say SOMETHING. 🤣

[@thealien_ali3382]

My guy was like oh crap let's just make shite up maybe I hit gold 😂

[@chrisorrell3066]

It’s probably the easiest case he had ever had lol

[@NiecieSavo]

How arrogant of him to assume that they wouldn't leave anything to his half sisters and their families. Thanks for the thorough coverage of this horrible case and for the comic relief of "get the fuck out of here" - that bit made me chuckle.

[@KimberlyBishh]

I believe everyone was thinking that as he said it!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@danielzerich2179]

I read somewhere that the half sister was only left the pot the mothers head was put in...

[@Liitebulb]

I have an 3entitled sibling like this. A lot of people are like this. "You work, you have a job, why would they leave you anything?"