Season 03 : Episode 07 : Nathan Holden

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@DrHenryAuD
@DrHenryAuD 2 жыл бұрын
I could not care less that Nate had ptsd from his childhood. I experienced abuse, lived in poverty, was raped, went through medical trauma, and my dad died when I was a teenager. Never have I once thought about murdering someone.
@beebob2877
@beebob2877 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, no sympathy for men who behave like children
@xminusone1
@xminusone1 2 жыл бұрын
Those are lames excuses.
@derrickalexander9710
@derrickalexander9710 2 жыл бұрын
definitely lame excuses
@IrishHoopers
@IrishHoopers Жыл бұрын
That's because unlike him you're not a pathetic evil monster
@VuDuGrrrrl8075
@VuDuGrrrrl8075 Жыл бұрын
❤️
@thesehandsart
@thesehandsart 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, there WAS abuse. Psychological abuse is abuse. Gotta add, who tf let the children back with that man after he threatened to kill the kids and his ex?!
@addie_is_me
@addie_is_me 3 жыл бұрын
An idiot,.but I’m not blaming her for the murders.
@winkeyhurley2287
@winkeyhurley2287 3 жыл бұрын
Damn wake county did❗️
@LLStark
@LLStark 3 жыл бұрын
The system did...
@LLStark
@LLStark 3 жыл бұрын
@@winkeyhurley2287 Right!
@theresahenderson3534
@theresahenderson3534 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, but apparently that not enough. The husband wasn't a decent father or supportive husband, but that does seem a reason to leave in the announcer's eyes. Snh.
@KesiAndre
@KesiAndre 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why we give “impulsive” murderers less time. Honestly I wouldn’t want a guy on the street with me that reacts solely off emotions like that
@NikkiC777
@NikkiC777 3 жыл бұрын
That is a good point.
@rapa2894
@rapa2894 3 жыл бұрын
The truth is the justice system is so far removed from what science and medicine can easily explain and improve that it's obvious that the government simply does not care about any citizens wellbeing, neither the victims nor the perpetrators.
@JesseDanLee
@JesseDanLee 3 жыл бұрын
I had a professor who asked me to think about why a "crime of passion" could be used as a legal defense but an "honor killing" could not. Most killings between domestic partners are premeditated but we generally accept jealousy and wounded pride/honor as mitigating factors in murder. Nathan's murders we premeditated and were fuelled by fantasies of restoring his honor. However, rewarding explosively (impulsively) violent people with reduced sentences also sits wrong with me.
@maggielong7070
@maggielong7070 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Hair triggered tempers seem potentially just as dangerous as meticulous plans.
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
@@maggielong7070 okay on a follow-up to that though, what about the killer that is in a domestic partnership and has plotted their partner's death like they've thought about it. they've repeatedly got extremely livid with them for whatever reason, and have just sat there and stewed and thought about how they would go about killing their partner.. but they don't do it. Until they do. And when they do it's done impulsively and with unbridled emotion. But yet the manner of the murder is the same as they had thought it out in their head previously? So I post a question to I guess who's ever reading this; would that kind of murderer be considered impulsive with a hair trigger temper or premeditated? Or both?... if that's possible. And then throwing that kind of murderer into the mix, who is more dangerous? Or are they all equally dangerous
@Only-Sylvan
@Only-Sylvan 2 жыл бұрын
Her brother is the definition of being a good man. Taking care of his family in the end respect brother
@gambit952
@gambit952 Жыл бұрын
Huh??? I’m only 26 minutes into the video and all I can think is what a straight pussy this brother is. He’s threatening your parents and nieces and nephews and all you got is affirmations for him? Puh-leesz. Those texts were written calls for some whup ass- expeditiously! I wonder if this would have happened if he’d had his jaw caved in and some broken bones???
@gambit952
@gambit952 Жыл бұрын
Forgive me- I’m angry. I’m mad at the current state of black culture and people and it’s confirming my theory of the damage and poor quality of children born to black teenagers all their lives and how much of a deficit it causes overall on the community level because they still manage to interact with better black peoples and ruin their lives it’s like how can we separate ourselves from them? They really are like the worst.
@gambit952
@gambit952 Жыл бұрын
Passing cognitive disability down from one generation to the next and in this the destruction of others. PS- it ain’t lost on me that their first son, JT was and is a ain’t sweet honey ice tea. Why are little black boys and men so treasonous to their mothers? His stupid ass started ALLLL of this. Ol girl should have let Nathan beat the breaks off his azz In hindsight
@PerpetualBass
@PerpetualBass 3 жыл бұрын
This poor lady lost her parents, got beaten with a pistol in front of her kids, shot in the face and the HEART, and she is still able to face her attacker in court. Respect and love to her and her family
@jovedo27
@jovedo27 2 жыл бұрын
how do you get shot in the heart and survive?
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovedo27 they mentioned it in the video, I forget where, but after hearing it I didn't have to think about it, so it was possible
@jovedo27
@jovedo27 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimothyGod yea I heard it as well. I didn't mean it as an actual question. I'm just saying it's crazy how someome can actually get shot in the heart and survive. It's shocking that someone could survive something like that. To me it's on the same level as getting your head almost completely sliced off, hanging from a thread, and surviving.
@LaymanGamin
@LaymanGamin 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovedo27 the sac around the heart.
@jovedo27
@jovedo27 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so for clarification, my 1st comment is a reaction, not an actual question. Just a shocked figure of a speech. Example: "WOW, how do you even get shot in the heart and survive 🤯 !?! That is amazing". Hopefully that makes more sense.
@BirdGang6
@BirdGang6 Жыл бұрын
She was being beaten to death and she still had the thought to tell her ex to take her away and kill her away from the children. Even then she was only thinking about her kids. Such a strong and incredible woman! Hope she can live as close to a normal life as she possibly can now.
@mrsweetpotato4354
@mrsweetpotato4354 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how such a loving,stable and selfless woman ever hooked up with such a bum
@justlucky8254
@justlucky8254 Жыл бұрын
@@mrsweetpotato4354 for unknown reasons, that type of scenario seems to be very common.
@Nikki_with_the_blikki
@Nikki_with_the_blikki Жыл бұрын
​@@mrsweetpotato4354psychos are able to mimic normal people. They get great partners and friends since they appear to be very likeable - only if your intuition is strong will you feel like something is wrong with them immediately nonetheless. LaTonya's dad knew he wasn't shit from the beginning but it took more time for her to realize it, but by then, it was too late☹️
@coachstephdjfx
@coachstephdjfx 11 ай бұрын
@@mrsweetpotato4354look how likable and charismatic Ted Bundy was 🤷‍♀️
@whitefreeman5798
@whitefreeman5798 8 ай бұрын
if she was thinking about here kids she wouldnt have been living the life she was living and wouldnt have had that kind of people around them
@whosaidthat9265
@whosaidthat9265 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit stuck on the son lying about his grandfather pulling a gun on him because his phone was taken away. Seems to have added some fuel to an already blazing fire.
@emexdizzy
@emexdizzy 3 жыл бұрын
There's a thing that can happen during messy divorces where one or both parents will pit the kids against the other spouse. Nathan has a documented history of physical abuse, I would _not_ put it past him to have manipulated the boy into saying that by claiming "you'll never get to see me else-wise." Without evidence of that having occurred, no one can say, and maybe the boy even came up with the lie on his own to get to spend time with his dad, but yeah.
@whosaidthat9265
@whosaidthat9265 3 жыл бұрын
Mx. Dizzy H some kids know how to play both sides to their benefit. Since Nathan was treating his son more like a friend, it seems likely that when the kid was being disciplined he lashed out to get back to the parent that let him do whatever he wanted. But I do agree, we will never really know.
@yonnab6976
@yonnab6976 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in my car listening as soon as I heard that part I had to go to the comments. Causeeee wtf all that back and forth just for the kids to be put back in Nathan’s care... because of a lie
@shane-oshaunason7590
@shane-oshaunason7590 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Kids lie but children services should of made sure that the event actually took place
@kamlawilliams6549
@kamlawilliams6549 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if he understands the role he played in this horrible drama.
@KanikaC932
@KanikaC932 Жыл бұрын
I actually went to school with Latoyna; she is strong and has an excellent story of second chances. She's thriving like her mother and father would want.
@menelaoskontos2553
@menelaoskontos2553 10 ай бұрын
she is full of s**t
@hoomhoom9835
@hoomhoom9835 3 жыл бұрын
Cannot believe she survived this. What an absolute warrior.
@jenniferocious480
@jenniferocious480 3 жыл бұрын
Facts I’d love to see a channel someday that celebrates the lives of survivors and what they’re doing now (as long as they were cool with it of course)
@annetteyoutube742
@annetteyoutube742 3 жыл бұрын
Her children needed her. That's what pulled her through.♥️
@skeeterboombaty
@skeeterboombaty 3 жыл бұрын
makes me think of that vine where the little girl was like "YOU CAN'T KILL ME I'M A BAD BITCH"
@donnarice2949
@donnarice2949 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonniemayhem yes a warrior you as a man could never understand the strength of a women so don't assume she not a warrior cause she is a true warrior
@gregorypowell9020
@gregorypowell9020 3 жыл бұрын
@@donnarice2949 my mom was beaten and told us she was biding her time which my brother and sister were always like “what the hell are you talking about” then when I was 7 he hit her badly and then that night I heard him scream and start crying. She super glued his eyes shut and beat him with a bat…..ya he never touched her again and never came to my baseball games either. I’d say she handled that like a warrior and always will be in my eyes.
@jojozep7820
@jojozep7820 3 жыл бұрын
Just because he hasn’t HIT her, doesn’t mean he isn’t abusive. Her gut told her to be scared of his reactions.....she was 100% right.
@kalimbaayinde25
@kalimbaayinde25 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he was verbally abusive and emotionally abusive that's why she felt uneasy and didn't want to tell him about the divorce.
@83prettyblack
@83prettyblack 3 жыл бұрын
She knew he was a nut in her heart.He aimed to kill her.Its definitely a scary thing to now face him when he wanted her to be a ghost.
@AK-jk7co
@AK-jk7co 3 жыл бұрын
Statistically speaking, most women know intuitively when their partner's abuse will escalate. This has been proven time and again, and this point is made constantly by intimate partner abuse victim advocates to law enforcement and court systems but unfortunately often ignored. I have lived it and know it personally to be true...if I didn't get out when I did I probably wouldn't be writing this comment. Nobody knows their abuser better then the person being abused.
@The_Primary_Axiom
@The_Primary_Axiom 3 жыл бұрын
Psychological abuse is horrific. You can never remember physical pain no matter how hard you try. But psychological pain, is a pain that stays with you for life unless you get help or innerstand yourself deeply.
@inkbold8511
@inkbold8511 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to your guts ppl! They aren't wrong don't ignore it.
@MiSzBitterSw3et
@MiSzBitterSw3et 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't plan it?? He sent his son in the church to see where everybody was and what time they'd be home... HE PLANNED IT!!!!
@superscatboy
@superscatboy 3 жыл бұрын
For real
@The_Primary_Axiom
@The_Primary_Axiom 3 жыл бұрын
Yea wtf ? How is driving to her parents house and killing them not 1st degree ? He had a long time to control his impulsive behavior and went through with it still. That’s premeditated
@travisjp3097
@travisjp3097 3 жыл бұрын
Also, JT lied and got any firearms taken from Sylvester Sr., if he had any, that is.
@Simon_PieMan
@Simon_PieMan 2 жыл бұрын
This where the law gets complicated. The looking for her and the family was planned of course. The actual killing itself has to be proven to be pre planned for it to be murder - that’s why these cases are complex.
@james-bryannaadams6928
@james-bryannaadams6928 3 жыл бұрын
What’s scary is she did everything right…no instigating, always trying to deescalate, avoidance…and it still went sideways. I feel so bad for her.💔 What an extraordinarily brave woman.
@DopamineDecor
@DopamineDecor 2 жыл бұрын
She did everything right except she married the wrong guy.
@IrishHoopers
@IrishHoopers Жыл бұрын
If you're living with an abusive bully it doesn't matter how perfect you are, they'll find an excuse to bully and abuse. I don't know why people always try to consider what the victim did or did not do. It doesn't matter what the victim does, the only blame there is lies with the abuser and the abuser ONLY
@PettyLabelle
@PettyLabelle Жыл бұрын
@@DopamineDecorwhy are so many of these types amongst bm ?
@laclipps1
@laclipps1 7 ай бұрын
Minus she let buddy bust in her at 15
@bcfb2989
@bcfb2989 3 жыл бұрын
In the midst of this horrific situation, I must focus on what an absolutely amazing son Sylvester junior is. He was an integral part of the saving of his sister, nieces and nephew. The brother was making phone calls to the children's school, to the police safety unit, contacting his father and repeatedly attempting to reach his sister. He is articulate, level headed and mature. He constantly tried to talk with Nathan to calm him down. It is heartbreaking that his parents, whom he loved dearly, were murdered. He then brings his sister and her children to come live with him and his wife. Sylvester junior, I honor your efforts. God bless you young man.
@mikaparker3413
@mikaparker3413 3 жыл бұрын
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@mikaparker3413 3 жыл бұрын
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@gracehetfield5331
@gracehetfield5331 3 жыл бұрын
This dude had no idea what a good friend he had in the brother. Dude was being very supportive and giving him good advice and he was just like "nah, murder seems like a better option". It seems like all around, Nathan was surrounded by people much smarter, more emotionally mature and more empathic than him and he learned nothing from them. I wonder if he ever could've. Sad.
@jabellatv3240
@jabellatv3240 3 жыл бұрын
Right they definitely raised their children well i just Latonya would have left dude alone once he didn't claim the first child without a dna test that was the first red flag.
@kateoleary4984
@kateoleary4984 3 жыл бұрын
He had a chance. Despite his parents being druggies and abusive etc plenty of people go through that and decide they will NEVER continue that cycle. Women for generations have been victims of abuse and let it end there. Men can tend to let their ego get in the way, and being a victim makes them look for others to victimise - after all “if I can’t have them kids no one can have them” is ego through and through.
@kierramack4708
@kierramack4708 3 жыл бұрын
Right he was surrounded with positive people positive energy genuine love and people who actually cared about him do you know how many people wish they have a good support system and the right people around them people who want you to do well and also help you to succeed and he just blows it smh it makes a difference when you have good people around you versus negative people
@galacticunicorn6319
@galacticunicorn6319 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same exact thing! Her brother was such a good friend and was willing to emotionally support both Nathan while him and his sister split up. I want him to be my friend.
@sventer198
@sventer198 3 жыл бұрын
Many people have bad childhoods and don’t go around killing people. This had nothing to do with snapping and everything to do with his ego.
@katielunsford
@katielunsford 3 жыл бұрын
Her brother is the real MVP here. I love that he is supporting his sister and her children! 💕
@torjackson428
@torjackson428 2 жыл бұрын
Look like u choosin snow bunny
@laragara
@laragara 2 жыл бұрын
MVP???
@spritual-1731
@spritual-1731 Жыл бұрын
Her Brother* Real Man Shyt 💪🏾👑
@gambit952
@gambit952 Жыл бұрын
Her brother pussy. Plain and simple. It makes me wonder how retarded people really are and be so Jesus-y… the Lord wasn’t no pussy!!!! His strength shows through his sacrifice but before that- He ripped himself out his own plastic and popped off in that “church “ kicking over tables and yelling… completely about that life…now- David- he’s the example of a courageous and brave man that was a fighter and he was about that life of physical action. Moses was too- he caught a body Hmmm 🤔 maybe our boys and men are pussy because the women who learn the bible are teaching it to their children from their perspective of gentleness… not understanding that it should not be gentleness taught to boys to express all the dang time. Everything has its season- fighting included. Now we know the black boys and men will fight women and girls but they won’t fight men… so pitiful
@shakerawilliams3010
@shakerawilliams3010 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂​@@torjackson428
@LeoA05
@LeoA05 3 жыл бұрын
The mother is amazing. So calm and collected, no vile or anger in her heart, always giving a chance to talk things out and deescalate the situation. Very unfortunate what her and her kids had to go through
@chinavaughan6383
@chinavaughan6383 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that her children were able to get therapy to help them cope with all of this
@shareekah1
@shareekah1 3 жыл бұрын
Her brother is heaven sent. He tried to deescalate the situation so many times. Smh
@azureavocado5195
@azureavocado5195 3 жыл бұрын
Idk I think a “heaven sent” brother is one who DEFENDS his loved ones from harm and omega males. But I guess not
@shareekah1
@shareekah1 3 жыл бұрын
@@azureavocado5195 You do realize him defending them wouldn’t have changed the outcome right? They all did the right thing law wise and that couldn’t even help them.
@yanifree114
@yanifree114 3 жыл бұрын
@@azureavocado5195 omega males? Her brother is an honorable young alpha male. I'd be proud to call him son, as I'm sure his parents were. Thankfully they'll be together again...in heaven.
@HOPEisforEVERYONE
@HOPEisforEVERYONE 3 жыл бұрын
@@azureavocado5195 really... he did all he could. What should he have beat him up.... this outcome was what was going to happen all along and it could have been even worse
@dankestranch8738
@dankestranch8738 3 жыл бұрын
@@azureavocado5195 you're an absolute goof
@HoneyButterBiscuits
@HoneyButterBiscuits 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvester Taylor Jr. is a hero 🎖. An outstanding son, brother, and uncle. Calling the resource officer at the school was just so smart and alerting his parents as well. I hope the Taylor family is healing from their nightmare and can remain close. The only person to blame for this tragedy is Nathan Holden.
@twalk2024
@twalk2024 3 жыл бұрын
They are all still close. They love even harder and keep their parents’ legacy alive. Taylor family is not destroyed, but Nathan attempted. I would imagine they still pray for him. Awesome example of a family becoming even closer after tragedy.
@MissMy5.0
@MissMy5.0 3 жыл бұрын
I would agree with you about Taylor Jr. although continuing to support such dangerous and erratic behavior even after numerous murderous comments gives me some pause. To say that the only person to blame is Nathan is a bit disingenuous. There is always more to the story. The fact that the son called the police and lied about his grandfather threatening him with a gun shows severe mental and emotional issues coupled with an intense impulsive control problem well above what would be considered average for his age. It seems more likely that the choice to consistently participate in irresponsible, immature, and irrational actions beginning with willfully staying in an openly unhealthy relationship and then pushing that relationship far beyond its breaking point in continuing to bring more children into an already bad situation. Then continuing to make those horrible decisions for well over a decade is what brought them to all to have to deal with the repercussions of such a lifestyle.
@alex-qd6of
@alex-qd6of 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissMy5.0 no, the murderer is solely responsible for the murders. And he could have left the relationship at anytime.
@nancydaniel4716
@nancydaniel4716 3 жыл бұрын
She's a beautiful, smart strong woman
@moniquebowens9524
@moniquebowens9524 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@nightlywhisperss1303
@nightlywhisperss1303 3 жыл бұрын
What a strong woman she is for her to talk about it all and to keep herself content. She got shot, and nearly lost her life, her parents got murdered by her ex husband. Her brother sounds amazing and cares for her. I hope this family can move on with their life.
@TheInvestiGatorYT
@TheInvestiGatorYT 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Anna, really admirable.
@Juniperxo
@Juniperxo 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterd3042 you're good at blaming the victim and that's smart too 🥰✨✨✨🥰🥰🥰🥰✨✨✨✨✨✨🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
@Luckimee
@Luckimee 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterd3042 yea she had an affair so what? She didn't murder anybody
@auditoryaudacity5712
@auditoryaudacity5712 3 жыл бұрын
God bless her
@auditoryaudacity5712
@auditoryaudacity5712 3 жыл бұрын
@Billy Frick she survived a near death experience and had the strength to take the stand and speak on it. Get real man.
@1sweetea
@1sweetea 7 ай бұрын
Back here watching because of the Discovery Channel's " Evil Lives Here" series! This story really sticks out to me because of her surviving and being able to tell the story. This is a chilling warning to always look at both ends of a person before considering any kind of friendship/relationship. The "Good" and the "Bad". The upbringings are usually the key 🗝️
@hazelmill20
@hazelmill20 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk for a minute about how after beating his son and threatening to kill his wife and kids and having a protective order issued against him...cps came in and just gave all the kids to the dad based on what should have been an easily detected lie made by an angry teenager. That’s just some stellar social working
@blessedforever1424
@blessedforever1424 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this is our judicial system and look what the outcome was .
@susanfontaine5214
@susanfontaine5214 3 жыл бұрын
So sadly true.😔
@Noellevrr
@Noellevrr 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love CPS!
@catherinegriessel56
@catherinegriessel56 3 жыл бұрын
More children die because of these useless 'read it in a book" people
@BarronVonSchnoot
@BarronVonSchnoot 3 жыл бұрын
You’re talking about it now. Did someone tell you that you couldn’t talk about it?
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a divorced Dad. Joint custody. My Ex is a good person, 17 years married. The divorce was devastating. But to hurt folks? What sense would that make? This is the act of a crazy person. Deranged psychopath. Sad
@writer46m72
@writer46m72 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you two. Neither the parents nor the kids should have to endure this kind of abuse. Just agree to disagree, make peace, and let everyone move forward.
@writer46m72
@writer46m72 3 жыл бұрын
@Victoria Henry I’m so sorry you had to deal with that. I hope you’re okay considering
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 3 жыл бұрын
@Victoria Henry it is very disturbing that out of 10 guys one is out of prison in 6 years on parole & another has life no parole it is a weird system for murder but worse for rape , many of them get 3 years - time served almost zero days left & others get 15 years but get out early anyway.I think should get the same time as murder. It’s proven you can’t fix these guys just put them away for life.
@whatadumbbutt
@whatadumbbutt 3 жыл бұрын
all you're doing is making absolutely sure that you'll never see your kids again. it can be hard when emotions run high but you have to THINK
@writer46m72
@writer46m72 3 жыл бұрын
@@whatadumbbutt I believe he said he does see his kids, when he said he has joint custody 🙂
@megancarter9997
@megancarter9997 3 жыл бұрын
I get wanting to live with one parent over the other, but to lie about your grandfather pulling a gun on you is crazy. He needed counseling not a green light to live with his crazy dad
@marysupernova7780
@marysupernova7780 3 жыл бұрын
Dad probably sank his hooks into his son's head and manipulated him to turn against protective family members 😓
@mikew1374
@mikew1374 3 жыл бұрын
@@marysupernova7780 that's 100% what happened. Kids brains are like sponges, ge absolytely learned it from his batshit insane dad....
@Michelle_Mack
@Michelle_Mack 3 жыл бұрын
He was a kid. He got away with more at his dad’s, he said what he knew would get him immediate satisfaction. It’s a rock and a hard place for child protective services, because if they don’t believe him and something happens.. it’s really got to be incredibly difficult to be someone making these decisions… ROLE OF THE PREFRONTAL CORTEX Not fully developed until 25. Focusing one's attention. Predicting the consequences of one's actions; anticipating events in the environment. Impulse control; managing emotional reactions. Planning for the future.
@kadeelacayo4806
@kadeelacayo4806 3 жыл бұрын
His dad was a friend not a parent and allowed him to do whatever he wanted , I’m sure. Kids are never at fault for their shitty parents
@akaste4413
@akaste4413 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michelle_Mack did you mean to put the prefrontal cortex in this comment? i saw it in context on another one but it seems out of place here
@mmay6621
@mmay6621 3 жыл бұрын
LaTonya is blessed to have her brother. What a great man.
@mom2babygkaterad946
@mom2babygkaterad946 2 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@BlaqPheonix
@BlaqPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes doctors and specialists arent seen for the super hero’s they are; the trauma teams out there we appreciate you
@oldaccount5217
@oldaccount5217 Жыл бұрын
People are constantly praising them and teachers. Sometimes doctors and teachers aren’t all that great. Sometimes horrible people even.
@shainebabjeck9403
@shainebabjeck9403 Жыл бұрын
@@oldaccount5217oh relax
@zacharymarkham5232
@zacharymarkham5232 Жыл бұрын
​@oldaccount5217 no they aren't. It's always "God"
@janicekamalski5938
@janicekamalski5938 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a total narcissist. He wanted to stay married to make her miserable and she had the audacity to say no.
@jabellatv3240
@jabellatv3240 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly while they were still together he was never home but as soon as she left all he can think about is her 24/7. He was jealous that she had a job and family who cared for her and she didn't need his bum ass
@beautifulsurprise9424
@beautifulsurprise9424 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Like dude she left you and took the kids. A lot of men (I didn’t say all men before I get a ton a responses from men angry with me as though my comment did in fact say all men. I probably will still get some angry responses even though I put this disclaimer) want to be fathers when it’s convenient for them and she was allowing him to live that life and have the kids every other weekend and be single again so that he could find a partner that he clicked with instead of a one that he didn’t want to come home to. I’ll never understand it. Like, dude what are you so upset about? Wife doesn’t mean possession and I really believe he thought she belonged to him and how dare she be unhappy and decide to leave. In every divorce that I have ever seen personally from friends and family it’s always been the husband who took the divorce the hardest…even when he cheated multiple times and pushed the wife past her breaking point for what she will accept, the husband is the one who feels wronged and also behaves like he’s the one being treated unfairly and like he just cannot live life anymore without being married. I always find that funny because this has usually happened to my friends after she’s spent several years basically begging the guy to get married and he never seemed like he really was ready but he knew that if he didn’t go through with it she’d break up with him and move on. Then after they get married he cheats multiple times because…he really wasn’t ready to get married as evidenced by it taking him several years to propose as I said earlier and only did it because he knew she’d dump him. Then as I said after giving him several opportunities to stop cheating she decides that it’s time to get a divorce and he totally comes unglued because in his mind she is supposed to endure whatever he threw at her. Just something I will never understand. And again before any men get upset at what I’m saying I am only talking about what I have witnessed from my friends and acquaintances from college and the men were not the only ones cheating. One of my guy friends went on a business trip and came home early and didn’t tell his wife because he truly thought he was going to surprise her but when he walked in the door he found her I bed with his best friend. Women cheat too.
@codyjohnson747
@codyjohnson747 3 жыл бұрын
@@beautifulsurprise9424 yes it can get messed up both ways there is good and bad both ways I guess...I dont get it honestly...if ur not happy try to leave
@amberleigh5963
@amberleigh5963 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@expandhealthinc.1887
@expandhealthinc.1887 3 жыл бұрын
@@jabellatv3240 💯💯💯
@steveg8029
@steveg8029 3 жыл бұрын
How in the hell do you get shot in the heart and still live to tell about it. This woman had God looking out for her that day.
@richardkranium2944
@richardkranium2944 3 жыл бұрын
Luck. Pure luck.
@genericstaticshock705
@genericstaticshock705 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardkranium2944 same thing
@rapa2894
@rapa2894 3 жыл бұрын
WakeMed does some excellent work tbh. My diabetic grandfather survived a quintuple bypass surgery at 79 there without complications, and they repaired me after multiple organ failure when I was 20. They helped correctly diagnose my Nana after a decade of no answers.. They're the biggest hospital in the area, with multiple locations. The one in particular this lady went to is on the main campus and they see the most gunshots (unfortunately, but fortunately for her) because it is located in the roughest part of the city.
@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain
@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain 3 жыл бұрын
Lol you people and your gods. I suppose god allowed the shooting to happen to teach some kind of lesson to the world, right? Belief in your god is fueled delusion and fear. You will spin it to fit your narrative no matter what happens 😂
@8thhousemoonrabbit205
@8thhousemoonrabbit205 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain this woman and her children seem to have lived and you think believing in God, is ridiculous? I find your handling of other people if there is no God, considerably more cruel than it is, otherwise. They could very easily have someone on the stand describing how her smile lights up a room, rather than the merciful outcome. If there's no God why aren't you spending less time deriding people and more time paying forward some kindness? That is baffling.
@dianeosborne2147
@dianeosborne2147 Жыл бұрын
I love how respectful and polite this family are…it’s so nice to see young people smart and telling the story without drama or outright lying
@monicacharming3123
@monicacharming3123 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't physically violent but sounds emotionally abusive manipulative and narcissistic. That's why she was fearful.
@kandikane2633
@kandikane2633 3 жыл бұрын
Did u hear when it was said that he beat their son with a broom?
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
And I don't blame her for being fearful of him before he became physically violent. Anyone who's been in a relationship or had to deal with a narcissist on a consistent basis will understand and unfortunately knows that fear too well. And a justified fear it is
@kristinehorn9099
@kristinehorn9099 3 жыл бұрын
HE is a complete P.O.S.
@Lara-fv8fg
@Lara-fv8fg 3 жыл бұрын
She knew it would become physical. She was doing everything she could to keep him calm, even when he was beating her and shot her.
@mistressofstones
@mistressofstones 3 жыл бұрын
In many cases the first time there is serious violence the man kills the woman. It might even be the first time he hits her. He may have been satisfied with coercive control (psychological torture) but as soon as he loses control BAM. Dead. Scary stuff. These men are very scary.
@nessal4078
@nessal4078 3 жыл бұрын
Her brother is such a nice man! He was so calm and kind and wise. Wish this had turned out differently
@Torischannel1
@Torischannel1 3 жыл бұрын
Who is your brother
@shane-oshaunason7590
@shane-oshaunason7590 3 жыл бұрын
Even when he was talking shit about her, her brother kept calm and remained peaceful instead of threatening him or screaming at him. He prayed for him.
@kamlawilliams6549
@kamlawilliams6549 3 жыл бұрын
I know he really worked to diffuse the situation and not only to help his sister but to also help that piece of crap she married.
@azureavocado5195
@azureavocado5195 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad he didn’t have the discernment to defend his family from his “buddy.” Nobody really stepped up to this dude That’s why this happened
@sailormoon206
@sailormoon206 3 жыл бұрын
^^^So, now the brother is to blame for what happened? By your logic, we should blame Latonya for her inability to choose partner. None of this would've happened if she had taken her father's concerns about Nathan seriously. Her brother did the best he could as the family's peacemaker.
@andrea6421
@andrea6421 3 жыл бұрын
He kills his children’s grandparents and nearly kills their mother in front of them and this man has no remorse, not a bit. He deserves everything he got and that’s still not enough to take the pain away from all of the victims.
@Keys7
@Keys7 3 жыл бұрын
He is a demon. That is why it is so important for people to study the words of Jesus and OBEY. He said by their fruits (actions/behavior) you shall know them and out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Folks start saying all manners of foolishness out of their mouth and then start doing little malicious nasty things: that is the beginning. Love is patient and kind and even when you are angered, LOVE allows you to forgive and walk away. He NEVER loved her. He always hated her and the children and was jealous that she had parents that loved her. He didn't grow up with that, so that is the first ones he went for. He knew he had to kill her Daddy in order to get back there in that room with her. He is a demon. God Bless you dear.
@andrea6421
@andrea6421 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keys7 Amen!
@hollyfarr7209
@hollyfarr7209 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keys7 true true unfortunately
@KesiAndre
@KesiAndre 3 жыл бұрын
Latonya did everything she was told to do in order to protect herself and kids and still tried to be reasonable to him smh poor girl I can’t imagine the trauma and survivors guilt she must feel 😔
@MissNebulosity
@MissNebulosity 3 жыл бұрын
My first thoughts exactly. The system failed her family HARD. Her parents should not be dead!!! And she was nearly dead!!! That makes me so mad. This shit shouldn't be allowed to go this far!!
@ereynoldful3974
@ereynoldful3974 3 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart. Poor thing. She really did do everything smart in this situation that you can. Especially waiting til things calmed down to leave. It may still end up bad but at that point he'd never been physical to her, just the kids. And even if he had been it's so difficult to plan that get away and leave plus kids. People judge but don't know what they would've really done in her shoes.
@RequiemDream
@RequiemDream 3 жыл бұрын
Where were the Black Lives Matter protests? 😔😢
@moimoi2994
@moimoi2994 3 жыл бұрын
@@RequiemDream 🙄seriously not cool.... very typical
@VeganV5912
@VeganV5912 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissNebulosity ~ Poor innocent animals. They did nothing wrong. They are innocent. Purely innocent. Over a burger et cetera. Five minute burger.... you can have vegan burgers and vegan chicken and vegan pizza and vegan tacos and vegan burritos and vegan curry....... and it’s good for you. Think about the victims. Not yourself..... It’s easy being a vegan. Don’t hurt animals. Simple. ✅👍 You can have vegan pizza and vegan curry and vegan burritos and vegan tacos and vegan ice cream............ delicious vegan food on KZbin.
@canag0d
@canag0d 3 жыл бұрын
Wow LaTonya looks amazing, you can’t even tell she had such a horrific beating. It’s a miracle she’s alive. She’s amazingly strong. Sylvester JR. seems like an amazing person too. Obviously their parents did a great job raising them.
@Nicole-fw3eu
@Nicole-fw3eu 3 жыл бұрын
Did a damn good job. I hope she find a man like her big brother.
@combatduckie
@combatduckie 3 жыл бұрын
if she were strong she d have LEFT him LONG before murder happened or not even have married such a control freak in the first place! She s weak to me.
@fairyfae5077
@fairyfae5077 3 жыл бұрын
@@combatduckie you are clearly not aware of any type of abuse and manipulation and i hope no one ever finds themselves into a relationship with you bc you seem like a type that want easily manipulated people
@lolife1981
@lolife1981 3 жыл бұрын
That dusty clown did not deserve her. She's a smart good looking woman.
@abeltesfaye_
@abeltesfaye_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@combatduckie you don't understand how difficult it is for absued to leave their abusers. Learn empathy & stop making such ignorant comments!
@mjw665
@mjw665 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the doctors, those were some serious injuries.
@ayo_marquis2245
@ayo_marquis2245 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@ginafast4557
@ginafast4557 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing and thank God above that she is alive and can continue to take care of her children 🙏🏻♥️
@redoutdoors69
@redoutdoors69 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd still hit that
@patrickbaklava7297
@patrickbaklava7297 3 жыл бұрын
@Dulcelina Cabral whats disgusting about wanting to have sex with someone? Isnt that how you were made??
@teo5836
@teo5836 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks kiddo!
@sharondajackson2503
@sharondajackson2503 3 жыл бұрын
Lord knows I cried when she said she called on JESUS! GOD BLESS her and RIH to her parents 🙌🏽😢
@springfauna1465
@springfauna1465 Жыл бұрын
Right?!!! Jesus is always our Savior and this just proves it once again!!! You know He's the reason she's alive after all that!!! 💜🙏
@mrFiiSKiiS
@mrFiiSKiiS Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure her parents just forgot to ask Jesus for help.
@LeanneFowler-ms5xc
@LeanneFowler-ms5xc Ай бұрын
AMEN 🙏​@@springfauna1465
@Caleb_son_of_God
@Caleb_son_of_God 3 жыл бұрын
Her brother is a good man, anyone would be lucky to have a friend like that.
@McMusso77
@McMusso77 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@judithompson7550
@judithompson7550 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@OneBadAssMoMo
@OneBadAssMoMo 3 жыл бұрын
Yep..... good man.
@sbeav1105
@sbeav1105 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, such an awesome soul sent her to be an angel to his beloved family.
@Keys7
@Keys7 3 жыл бұрын
Her brother should not have maintained any contact with him. If you are my sister's enemy, you are my enemy. The family had weak boundaries and this psychopath took advantage of that. Also her first son JT....I would be watching him like a hawk. He lied on his grandpa because he was being rude and ignoring him when he was trying to talk to him.about his problematic, sociopathic father.
@rebeccaholmes1982
@rebeccaholmes1982 3 жыл бұрын
LaTonya shows unbelievable strength, what a truly amazing woman!
@puppx13
@puppx13 3 жыл бұрын
Sad story. RIP to Sylvester Sr. & his wife.
@sherrybelle4776
@sherrybelle4776 3 жыл бұрын
*YOU'RE A WALKING MIRACLE LaTanya!!* God's angels were with you that day sis ! He has shown great mercy to you and your children!!🙏🏽❤
@at0micwerew0lf
@at0micwerew0lf 3 жыл бұрын
Theres so much more going on in this account...but Sylvester Sr didnt deserve to be murdered by a coward after surviving Vietnam. Sad...they seem like such a strong, wholesome family ripped apart by a garbage person.
@mike-sk2li
@mike-sk2li 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe the women was absolutely playing mind game's with this man. Her family helped. No excuses for what he did.
@haleyguthrie3113
@haleyguthrie3113 3 жыл бұрын
What other things?
@nikechiarobinson9235
@nikechiarobinson9235 3 жыл бұрын
L
@meciamonshay7985
@meciamonshay7985 3 жыл бұрын
@@mike-sk2li how was she the one playing mind games?
@rapa2894
@rapa2894 3 жыл бұрын
@@mike-sk2li oh of course you blame her..
@steadie
@steadie 3 жыл бұрын
This woman didnt just survive, she lived - and she lived to see that monster taken down. incredible
@gw3993
@gw3993 3 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a defense attorney to just be like, "Wow that's fucked up. I got nothin'. Lock em up."
@alyssakaye9329
@alyssakaye9329 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao same here!
@Hvhjkvv
@Hvhjkvv 3 жыл бұрын
Not allowed by bar rules to not “zealously represent” your client. Especially with murder, a judge would not allow the attorney to leave their client.
@raajaa559
@raajaa559 3 жыл бұрын
@Thunder Rhodes ok?
@sundaibrown
@sundaibrown 3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome, wouldn't it!
@TheGrossMeta
@TheGrossMeta 3 жыл бұрын
Blows my mind that people who kill/attempt to kill others are even allowed to have a defense.
@CarlaCarter549
@CarlaCarter549 2 жыл бұрын
The world needs more people like Sylvester Jr. The kindness and strength he has displayed is beyond admirable.
@gambit952
@gambit952 Жыл бұрын
Ah- no- the world doesn’t need him or the likes of him. He’s pussy. He was supposed go beat that ass disrespecting his parents, defaming his sister and speaking death over their lives so comfortably.
@krista3686
@krista3686 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sick of a boy/man’s family who convinces him that the baby might not be his. You see him non stop with a lady and as soon as she gets pregnant it ain’t his.
@arleedennis791
@arleedennis791 3 жыл бұрын
Girl. Mad as he'll they raised an fool.
@robertamcroy7938
@robertamcroy7938 3 жыл бұрын
That’s their out from their responsibility to come! He was crazy and was not brought up right! He didn’t have a role model at home
@rippyshopgod2736
@rippyshopgod2736 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the abusive crack addicted parents didn’t raise their child to be stable and think .... interesting
@titanclass3895
@titanclass3895 3 жыл бұрын
Say that when YOUR son tells YOU you’re gonna be SOLE babysitter to his child to be cuz that’s the way his baby momma wants it........... 😝
@TheVertigoalley
@TheVertigoalley 3 жыл бұрын
I guess nobody ever tells their kids how NOT to get pregnant anymore.
@waterbitten
@waterbitten 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvester Jr and Latonya seems like such great people. They carry themselves so well. A great legacy to thier parents.
@ginger7344
@ginger7344 3 жыл бұрын
All men should be as noble gracious and loving as Sylvester jr.
@texasbella576
@texasbella576 Жыл бұрын
Angelina and Sylvester did an amazing job raising their children. So sad they don’t get to see their grandchildren grow up. May they rest in peace. 🙏🙏🙏
@reddre3995
@reddre3995 3 жыл бұрын
That poor mom🥺 I have no words. Can't even fathom her pain
@Mrscarricom
@Mrscarricom 3 жыл бұрын
You never stay unhappy for children, you're teaching them to be comfortable in bad situations
@brandielambright460
@brandielambright460 3 жыл бұрын
Well said! I’ve always said, it’s better to have your children from a broken home than in a broken home.
@jimbob-robob
@jimbob-robob 3 жыл бұрын
What? That doesn't make much sense.
@Mrscarricom
@Mrscarricom 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbob-robob well jimbob everything is not for everyone , Life goes on even when we're present or absent. Stay safe
@boobam3648
@boobam3648 3 жыл бұрын
no. you be an adult and you put your kids before yourself. like a parent. unhappy is not a good enough reason to split up family. it’s just not. you both get tf along and parent. stow your bullplop and parent. abuse or addiction is a different story obviously. but if you are just not fulfilled.. stop being selfish. it’s not about you anymore.
@Mrscarricom
@Mrscarricom 3 жыл бұрын
@@boobam3648 if you watched the same video I did you would understand the unhappiness I meant. Living in fear and walking on egg shells is no place to raise a family. But you do you, advice is not for everyone.
@sickmanuel
@sickmanuel 3 жыл бұрын
This shit had me crying when she described the start of his shooting. Smh. Shes a strong woman. For real
@haileygrey5047
@haileygrey5047 3 жыл бұрын
me too! I was white knuckling it but when she said how her babies were screaming and crying that’s it I lost it
@fhenlizhao5406
@fhenlizhao5406 3 жыл бұрын
Its a miracle she and her children are still alive.
@kingsaintides7227
@kingsaintides7227 3 жыл бұрын
That MFDOOM pic👍🏾
@prettypsyched8178
@prettypsyched8178 3 жыл бұрын
You clearly described patterns of emotional and sexual abuse. Abuse isn't just physical. They were in a DV relationship where he displayed patterns of power and control over her. That's what she initially feared. Her matter of fact descriptions and willingness to see him as a good father, was simply cognitive dissonance.
@LM-zk4rm
@LM-zk4rm 3 жыл бұрын
People need to be careful with letting people date too young because is so hard for them to develop a sense of self
@amnika2536
@amnika2536 3 жыл бұрын
100%! As a counselor I can confirm this! I’ve seen and heard about so much damage due to this
@dutchy213
@dutchy213 3 жыл бұрын
So damn true. Live ya life first before you Start a family
@seanh1661
@seanh1661 3 жыл бұрын
School does not teach this and can not. There are things only family can teach you and allowing children to go to school before becoming self aware to the system and people around you, will set them up for a big fall.
@honestjane2549
@honestjane2549 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in my late 40’s,all of the girls I know that married their first “love” or had children in their late teens early 20’s are now separated,divorced or married again..
@vanessaabbas2309
@vanessaabbas2309 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I was in a relationship from 15- 27 with an older man. I've been trying to figure out who I am for 5 years and I'm still lost 🤷‍♀️
@tivanyamoodley3576
@tivanyamoodley3576 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the narrator gives help numbers at the end
@Poppins242
@Poppins242 3 жыл бұрын
This is just awful, I can't believe how many people are victim blaming this lady in the comments. I think she done everything the courts told her to. She was trying to make things easier and calm. Nathan her ex he was just a narcissistic pig. If I can't have my kids no one will. What sort of father even says that? Ptsd isn't an excuse to hurt others. My heart goes out to the victims in this crime ❤️
@maggielong7070
@maggielong7070 3 жыл бұрын
@BIG Jumbo I wasn't in her shoes but most 15 year old girls don't get pregnant on purpose or just "allow" it to happen.
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
@BIG Jumbo who the hell said she'd let him impregnate her? At any time does she say I let him impregnate me? Don't act like you knew what was going on behind their closed doors. Hold up let me go get you a trampoline so you can keep jumping to conclusions
@tynellesharratt463
@tynellesharratt463 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what your laws are, but here in Australia 15 is a minor - so legally, at minimum, that's statutory rape!? Sadly, she was a baby, having babies, but she seems like a pretty good mum, and in NO way brought this on herself. She left when he started on the kids, and thought she was doing the right thing by leaving, but still allowing him to be a parent - that's not stupid, that's trying to be a fair parent, and put her children, and their father, before her own feelings. Sadly for her, this backfired, and then he took it upon himself to play god, because his little ego was bruised. I don't know of many 15 year Olds that make great decisions consistently, especially when they think they are "in love" with someone. She unfortunately, fell "in love" with the wrong someone. Many blessings to her and her children 💜✌️
@davidbanner3866
@davidbanner3866 3 жыл бұрын
this woman is an idiot.. why would u keep making babies with a dude who don't have a stable job and she's struggling
@kevinpedersen5290
@kevinpedersen5290 3 жыл бұрын
How the fuck can you blame her. What kind of psychopath can you be to justify that opinion. What the fuck
@CJLOVE23
@CJLOVE23 2 жыл бұрын
LaTonya and her brother are beautiful souls and I wish nothing but happiness for them and her kids for the rest of their days
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 3 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. You can just tell what a loving and beautiful family they were. I love that the brother moved back, and they all decided to stay together in the end. That’s love. That’s family. ♥️
@CherryPi314
@CherryPi314 3 жыл бұрын
LaTonya is a class act, poor thing lost so much; but she sat there tall & told her harrowing tale with such calm & poise. Poor thing, one can only endure so much. I hope she goes forward in life & is lifted up after such a tragedy 😔 3:11 Eeeks, his forehead tho...😬
@MimiSparkles
@MimiSparkles 3 жыл бұрын
So thankful that LaTonya made it! What an amazing brother she has also. I pray that the family will heal and prosper.
@GoodJobBuddy
@GoodJobBuddy 3 жыл бұрын
This woman is the epitome of strength. In the face of grave danger she was stronger than most. God bless you ma'am.
@robertmccray228
@robertmccray228 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care how your childhood was it still doesn't give you an excuse to harm or kill other people there's no excuse for that behavior
@robertjohnston9023
@robertjohnston9023 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any real evidence that Mike J was indecent with children? There very well may be, iv yet to see though!
@punxxi
@punxxi 3 жыл бұрын
Boy ain't that the truth...if a crappy upbringing makes you like that, I should be a serial killer for sure!
@nananazimam2060
@nananazimam2060 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly..I wonder why people always play such kinda excuses...I had a hard life growing up...I never stole no body...I always tried to work hard and eat from my own sweat,how comes I never stole no body
@lamanguedouce1189
@lamanguedouce1189 3 жыл бұрын
How stupid are you for talking about excuse. Nodoby is excusing. People are EXPLAINING. And, even if not all "crappy young life " people become crazy murderer, ALL crazy murderer had a shitty young life. You people should just go to sleep and shut p about this too complex for y'all
@JME1186
@JME1186 3 жыл бұрын
It would help if you understood how nuanced childhood development is, but I feel your overall point. Not all children who experience trauma will overcome and become level headed people. It does not excuse grown adults committing atrocities, I will never condone violence of this kind. But I’ve done too much research in to childhood psychology to not have an appreciation for how ones mind can be absolutely warped to the point that where they legitimately never learn right from wrong. At what point is it Understandable? Have you see the Trials Of Gabriel Hernandez on Netflix? If that poor young soul had grown up and become a murderous criminal, would you have had absolutely zero compassion or would you have no clue why he became what he became? Individual circumstances matter, we cannot all be lumped in to one view of what’s ok because no two people have the same psychological backgrounds. Just because you overcame trauma does not mean others can, so hold people responsible for actions while acknowledging life is much more nuanced than you’ve made it seem.
@missiecombs4807
@missiecombs4807 3 жыл бұрын
He kept his gun instead of turning it over. He then took said gun with him that night, to his inlaws home. He not only 1 decision to kill his mother in law, but then again, killing father in law then yet again attempting to kill his wife. He most definitely premeditated this. Without a doubt.
@MrPhilm00r
@MrPhilm00r 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to his attorney talking about how he didn't plan the attack and how he was a family man was difficult. She must have felt ridiculous.
@xxxstellarxxx
@xxxstellarxxx 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I plan to become a prosecutor and not a defense attorney, that was so embarrassing for her. I know her work-friends clowned the absolute fuck out of her for that after the trial was done. A friend of mine works as a legal secretary for the defense in an office of sorts and she tells me all kinds of stories about the attorneys making fun of each other for having to defend obviously guilty clients.
@MrPhilm00r
@MrPhilm00r 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxxstellarxxx I can only imagine. I'd like to be able to plant a recording device in a few random defense attorney offices. I bet it would be unreal but then it would just make me sad.
@xxxstellarxxx
@xxxstellarxxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPhilm00r I get you 100%.
@healthcareforallfiftyseven3773
@healthcareforallfiftyseven3773 3 жыл бұрын
@Ananas nanas I wonder; it might be appropriate to provide a vigorous defense by introducing doubt through various possibilities, but she avered that his behavior was impulsive as though it's factual truth, when evidence was introduced in court that he he had been planning ever since his texts with Sylvester Jr. In other words she straight-up lied about what was already recorded as known fact. That's filthy. He came with a gun, and that makes it a plan.
@441rider
@441rider Жыл бұрын
We could be so fortunate to have a mom as strong as Lotanya. Incredible intellect and calm.
@marcosvonasinine4190
@marcosvonasinine4190 3 жыл бұрын
“For the sake of the kids” ALWAYS turns into creating damaged adults. Always
@suryadas6987
@suryadas6987 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! 👍🎯
@justmissjamey
@justmissjamey 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why not everyone is meant nor should be allowed to have kids
@sofiedouglas757
@sofiedouglas757 3 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@lideabarker8161
@lideabarker8161 3 жыл бұрын
She might have been better off if she had denied the kid was his and gotten away from him.
@missiecombs4807
@missiecombs4807 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. I am a child of an abusive mother who stayed with an abusive father "for the sake of the kids" My older brother committed suicide, I barely made it out. But made it!! NEVER STAY FOR THE KIDS!!!!
@subrosa4792
@subrosa4792 3 жыл бұрын
43:38 “Well, case dismissed, why didn’t you tell us she didn’t answer the phone? You’re clearly justified in murdering her parents, bashing her face in with a pistol, and shooting her two twice. You’re free to go, sir!” ...your dry sense of humor is absolutely brilliant! I love it!
@MajesticTalk
@MajesticTalk 3 жыл бұрын
It was - meh.
@ANDREA-kk2gx
@ANDREA-kk2gx 3 жыл бұрын
When are people going to learn that "STAYING TOGETHER FOR THE KIDS" does not work and it's very bad for the kids... Kids pick up on everything... They know when their parents aren't happy ...they feel that tension in the house.. But darn this woman is a warrior!! She really is!!!! I'm glad she survived
@Annsunshine30
@Annsunshine30 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn`t agree more!!!
@ivygirlau1
@ivygirlau1 3 жыл бұрын
Yet she. Left so I’m lost to where that fits
@KD-wz8tp
@KD-wz8tp 3 жыл бұрын
Or having children to *save* a relationship!! It needs to be better than solid before children are brought into the equation!
@ANDREA-kk2gx
@ANDREA-kk2gx 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivygirlau1 but she was staying tho before she left...right??
@James-ie8kd
@James-ie8kd 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivygirlau1 làlllllà]0aàfah
@0The_Farlander0
@0The_Farlander0 3 жыл бұрын
You know you've been watching too many of these when finding out it was only the grandparents that died is a relief
@laragara
@laragara 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say relief, more _shock_
@amberbidwell8650
@amberbidwell8650 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@lisab5716
@lisab5716 Жыл бұрын
That's not relieving, her parents are gone
@aprilj2640
@aprilj2640 Жыл бұрын
Really???"only the grandparents"????
@lauracook8203
@lauracook8203 Жыл бұрын
​@@aprilj2640 I don't think she meant "only" as in merely the grandparents. I think she was referring to the number of people- only 2 instead of the entire family. Usually if it makes one of these videos, there aren't victims to testify.
@MrTwotimess
@MrTwotimess 3 жыл бұрын
This guy stewed the whole day long. He planned to get even with her. He knew her parents were very important to her.
@eve9287
@eve9287 3 жыл бұрын
Right so he took something she valued smh this was so sad
@tonymack4769
@tonymack4769 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of story is exactly why black man don't like black women anymore. And why the white man needs to stay out of black people's business. Not once did this narrator referred the kids as Nathan's. One thing I know for sure white man don't know anything about Justice and nothing about Christianity.
@mesimesi2313
@mesimesi2313 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonymack4769 what? 😕
@mz.sweetiperry
@mz.sweetiperry 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonymack4769 YOU dnt like black women. Speak 4 urself. Butt hurt much.
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonymack4769 LMFAO! Easily solved. _M0VE!_
@mariahmakinen6887
@mariahmakinen6887 3 жыл бұрын
The only silver lining to this whole mess is that the kids weren't physically harmed. Mentally they'll be scarred for life. I can't even begin to fathom the nightmares they have.
@tajj1351
@tajj1351 3 жыл бұрын
That was premeditated murder...period
@GrandmaDawn118
@GrandmaDawn118 2 жыл бұрын
WoW!!! It’s so true that if it’s ‘not your time’ then it is just NOT YOUR TIME! What a strong woman! I Pray that them babies and their Amazing Mother are doing well and somehow some way can put those memories wayyyyy way way back in their minds…God Bless Y’all ♥️
@pillettadoinswartsh4974
@pillettadoinswartsh4974 3 жыл бұрын
he took his gun to the house with him. that was deliberated.
@prettyuglysupernovarudegur2310
@prettyuglysupernovarudegur2310 3 жыл бұрын
Right??? How is that not planned out ??? He spent all day chasing her down this is crazy .
@hamzaa.8082
@hamzaa.8082 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see how the prosecutor was not colloquial enough to state this obvious fact!
@shawnramey614
@shawnramey614 3 жыл бұрын
*deliberate
@deniserossiter1059
@deniserossiter1059 3 жыл бұрын
AND he wasn't supposed to have any firearms due to the order of protection. He lied about it. If he HAD calmed down he would've given up the gun so he wouldn't do anything impulsive like he had threatened before. But he knew he needed it for a reason. That's deliberate. A rational person would be like: “Wow, I almost killed my wife & kids.....please take this gun away from me.” if he really didn't want to hurt anyone.
@melissawilloughby9637
@melissawilloughby9637 3 жыл бұрын
You know it's scary to think that you really dont know a person at all. Even after spending years with them.
@Juniper122
@Juniper122 3 жыл бұрын
Right
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
#facts
@Vampirella_888
@Vampirella_888 3 жыл бұрын
They say "You’ll never truly know a person.” I agree
@leobabe72
@leobabe72 3 жыл бұрын
I was fooled for 10 years.... Monsters are real good at hiding their true selves, and they use a false personality to attract victims.
@PiNkNeOnz
@PiNkNeOnz 3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@hotsoup1001
@hotsoup1001 3 жыл бұрын
His rambling during the closing arguments is likely some hybrid sovereign citizen argument that he heard in jail. There's no shortage of jailhouse lawyers who are smart enough to read the law, but don't have the education to interpret it.
@kadeelacayo4806
@kadeelacayo4806 3 жыл бұрын
And there’s a lot of them smart enough to interpret it as well
@mamabear52
@mamabear52 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was trying to recall the term for those people, I see they are still babbling
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
@@kadeelacayo4806 very true. And there's also those that have nothing but time to learn both.
@reececarr2784
@reececarr2784 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in jail , and that's exactly what I thought, unconstitutional....tell them that dog, they have to let u go, lol
@PronatorTendon
@PronatorTendon 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicLeeSarah No, there aren't. If those people actually existed, court cases would be getting thrown out due to jurisdictional issues. They're convinced they've got it figured out, but their lack of success is the demonstration of their embarrassing level of delusion How many criminal cases have been tossed because the defendant claims to be a _freeman upon the land_ or _I'm the agent of the defendant, not the defendant's person or capital entity?_
@marc6919
@marc6919 Жыл бұрын
Her determination too live is so inspiring. He's just a coward for doing this to her in front of her kids
@scottylewis8124
@scottylewis8124 7 ай бұрын
He's gonna be an Evil Lives Here story
@logansbt586
@logansbt586 3 жыл бұрын
Latonya must be made of some unbelievably tough stuff! So incredible she survived and was strong enough to keep going.
@Ronnie2389
@Ronnie2389 3 жыл бұрын
The son had some of his father's demons. He lied on his grandfather and seems to me like he set him and his own mother up to be murdered. I would watch the son super closely.
@Nicole-fw3eu
@Nicole-fw3eu 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pritty sure that shit eat him up daily.
@j.t.9175
@j.t.9175 3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@loosgoos85
@loosgoos85 3 жыл бұрын
He got the forehead too
@bigsnacks6485
@bigsnacks6485 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what??
@brentsanderson6566
@brentsanderson6566 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure hes just a kid. Kids dont fully understand the weight of their words when they lie. Like the others above stated, im sure that lie tortures him to this day.
@deemoo119
@deemoo119 3 жыл бұрын
Parents were killed, may they R.I.P i pray her family heal from this tragedy. Thank you to the doctors and nurses for their care and support in helping her on her road to recovery and being alive for her children 🙏🏾 ❤️
@thetruth4119
@thetruth4119 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that her brother stayed to make sure he was there to personally make sure she was straight is everything ❤️
@michaelpignato8629
@michaelpignato8629 3 жыл бұрын
This is another case of the court system failing another family and then everybody being bewildered by the outcome.
@Hurricaneintheroom
@Hurricaneintheroom 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the court system failing another family. People are unpredictable. You can't do much with people out making bad decisions. It's sad that this man destroyed this family. That's his fault. Not the court systems.
@farneciamiller4772
@farneciamiller4772 3 жыл бұрын
If I feel me and my children are in danger no court in this land can tell me NOT to protect myself....all they'll say after were all dead is oh that's so sad fuck dat
@SophiaMuusa
@SophiaMuusa 3 жыл бұрын
The way this woman carried herself through the court while reliving the crime. 🧢 Off.
@joannaw5913
@joannaw5913 3 жыл бұрын
She’s incredibly dignified.
@Psyopcyclops
@Psyopcyclops 3 жыл бұрын
What does 🧢 off mean?
@Pandurz
@Pandurz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Psyopcyclops hats off, tip my hat to you, basically a gesture of respect 😊
@SophiaMuusa
@SophiaMuusa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pandurz thank you
@yourhusbandismyboyfriend1714
@yourhusbandismyboyfriend1714 3 жыл бұрын
@@Psyopcyclops Did you think that she meant no cap? Lol
@makeupbyslooo
@makeupbyslooo 3 жыл бұрын
this woman is so strong, she fought until she couldn't no more.
@csb772
@csb772 3 жыл бұрын
She should have led him on til she could arm herself. He was obviously dangerous.
@joshuaford4411
@joshuaford4411 3 жыл бұрын
@David Detrana exactly, they don't talk about what she did.
@ThatHippyDuck
@ThatHippyDuck 3 жыл бұрын
@David Detrana nice victim blame
@estherrobinson6570
@estherrobinson6570 3 жыл бұрын
@David Detrana excuse me? How did she do things to push him over the edge? Ignoring someone who clearly wasn’t right, getting away and trying to get help? You’re SICK for blaming her instead of realizing this man was psychotic and possessive.
@jocelynhernandez1680
@jocelynhernandez1680 3 жыл бұрын
@@estherrobinson6570 !
@gracenote1837
@gracenote1837 Жыл бұрын
I was a DV legal advocate/counselor for 12 years. During that time I was pretty hardened to terrible things. But this one got to me. Most of the worst victims of family violence are the bravest and strongest women and men. Yes men are victimized by their partners, too. I can’t believe that this woman survived. I’m so sorry her parents were caught in the middle. But, you know, as parents if their deaths somehow slowed him down & kept the kids alive, I think they would feel it was worth it. But still it is so sad.
@tantiaglae333
@tantiaglae333 3 жыл бұрын
Omg the nerve on him, talking while the verdict is being read... Lock him up and throw away the key
@tjdjultima
@tjdjultima 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bunch of sovcit talk no less. Thinks the courts don’t have “jurisdiction” or “real charges” Edit: starts around 48:20
@babychief3090
@babychief3090 3 жыл бұрын
Naw.not just the 🗝️🗝️🗝️. All the privileges.
@yondoyorreactions9892
@yondoyorreactions9892 3 жыл бұрын
BRUH I felt like I was actually dying, hearing her describe herself being shot and beat. like I work at a hospital and I already see pretty nasty things but picturing this was just a mental hustle. let alone being there in person.
@CG-mj3ly
@CG-mj3ly 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God yes 💔
@elizabethcross8372
@elizabethcross8372 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I had skip past it. I began to feel everything she described.
@maronaprophecy597
@maronaprophecy597 2 жыл бұрын
I know🙄😩💓🥵I was ILL 🤧 listening to that Too...
@sarahewson3607
@sarahewson3607 2 жыл бұрын
His attorney didn’t even try to calm him down when he started rambling in court. She knew what type of person he is. LaTonya is a badass woman for surviving that attack. I hope her children appreciate that and I hope they’re all able to function in life.
@NicolePoliskey
@NicolePoliskey 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked hearing a case that I never heard of before. The quality of your content is always exceptional. Latanya is a brave woman and I was so happy to hear they live with family. Support must be so important.
@gabrieladu352
@gabrieladu352 3 жыл бұрын
Joint custody he beat the son with a broom. He should have never been able to be considered joint custody or see any of his children after that!
@NikkiC777
@NikkiC777 3 жыл бұрын
If he had been jailed (for a little while/a couple months) after that beating, or after making all the threats against them and stalking her at the courthouse and her kids school (which is what he was doing) then none of this would have happened. That whole final incident of violence could have been avoided. Police and prosecutors never take things like that seriously enough and then lives are lost.
@catdooley4616
@catdooley4616 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikkiC777 Even if they had arrested him and convicted him, a couple of months in jail rarely if ever changes their mind and usually pisses them off. I believe the only way this would not have happened would have been if he was locked up for life or died.
@maabrazelton
@maabrazelton 3 жыл бұрын
i don’t know how you create so much quality content so fast
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
I often wonder that myself... like does he have a room full of file cabinets that are just packed to the rim with true Crime cases and detailed information about each case? Lol. I don't know if he has people that do research for him or if he's just compiled a lot of research on a lot of true Crime cases or what he's got going on but it's definitely impressive!
@Nikki-2007
@Nikki-2007 3 жыл бұрын
I often wonder this also but hey, I am definitely here for it😍
@nacho_ncam
@nacho_ncam 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr! Amazing!
@papiezguwniak
@papiezguwniak 3 жыл бұрын
There's more people involved in making videos.
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 3 жыл бұрын
@@papiezguwniak is there for this specific content creator though? Not that there would be anything wrong with that. I'm just curious if you're comment reply is coming from specific knowledge about this specific content creator or you're just stating that generally.
@silverbutterflygrl78
@silverbutterflygrl78 3 жыл бұрын
She was amazing. She managed to save all her children.
@shanesmith906
@shanesmith906 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to know Latoya Allen and her kids have moved on and she's happily remarried to Jamar Allen. Great guy/supporter to her and her kids.
@sherrybelle4776
@sherrybelle4776 3 жыл бұрын
Oh so that explains the wedding ring that was on her finger during the case, thanks I was wondering why she kept her wedding ring on after she killed her parents!🤔
@OnlyBands1
@OnlyBands1 3 жыл бұрын
“This is unconstitutional.” Wow, it’s insane and almost impressive how all these scumbags always think that they were the ones who were wronged. RIP to the Taylors
@kathleenmedlyn
@kathleenmedlyn 3 жыл бұрын
She has a wonderful brother. She is so lucky to have him. God Bless all of you and stay safe.
@jackelineromero1597
@jackelineromero1597 2 жыл бұрын
absolute respect and admiration for the trauma response teams of the world. you all deserve so much more recognition! time is a finite source and the most challenging obstacle, thank you for pushing yourselves for others to live. YOU ARE SO APPRECIATED!
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 3 жыл бұрын
Props to the brother. He was a good brother to her throughout this entire ordeal, and still doing the right thing by her.
@jahneastanfield2662
@jahneastanfield2662 3 жыл бұрын
Very sad situation. No excuse for his anger and intention to kill her parents. I am so glad that she survived to give her account of what transpired.
@michele1083
@michele1083 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how her intuition was warning her about Nathan long before that day. Even though he had never been violent towards her up until that point, she was afraid of his reaction two different times.
@shannonmcclain2036
@shannonmcclain2036 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you for sharing stories that most of us would've never heard. Prayers to the victims 🙏
@chickenfooker74
@chickenfooker74 3 жыл бұрын
They "were searching for Nathan"?!...you'd be able to see that forehead from the International Space Station.
@Survivor58
@Survivor58 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@maggielong7070
@maggielong7070 3 жыл бұрын
It's a five head
@TheWeirdTurnProHST
@TheWeirdTurnProHST 3 жыл бұрын
Did they check next to the freeway? That’s where I usually see billboards like that thing he calls a forehead
@eve9287
@eve9287 3 жыл бұрын
Lol lol that is a very wide broad forehead fr
@littlewalrus1373
@littlewalrus1373 3 жыл бұрын
Head shaped like a peanut!😅
@AmandaJane229
@AmandaJane229 3 жыл бұрын
An incredibly brave woman. Such love for her children. Oh my word. Such a wonderful brother. She is precious. And to go through this in court. God bless you always.