SEASON 15 MID LANE TIER LIST (25.S1.1)

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Shok

Shok

Күн бұрын

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@Crucialnas
@Crucialnas 15 күн бұрын
Hi, Shok... It’s me. I don’t know if you remember, but it’s been so long since I last saw you. Life hasn’t been easy since you left me in the cold that day-I still can’t believe you thought Siberia was a good place to 'build character.' I’ve been surviving on scraps, befriending wolves, and perfecting my ice fishing skills, but it’s not the same without you. Sometimes, when the wind howls, I hear it whispering, 'Where’s Shok?' and it breaks my heart. Did you know it’s really hard to grow potatoes in the permafrost? I tried anyway-just like you always said to never give up. I miss you, Shok. I hope you’re proud of me... your forgotten child.
@Muxxic4697
@Muxxic4697 15 күн бұрын
Please don't make this a meme
@MT7S.69
@MT7S.69 15 күн бұрын
Good luck out there
@ySkipery
@ySkipery 15 күн бұрын
yes please dont make this into a MEME, it would really SUCK! ;)
@Evan-fh2zg
@Evan-fh2zg 15 күн бұрын
Shok, something about your commentary is just so honest and logical. It's an absolute breath of fresh air in the KZbin landscape of ulterior motives, dishonesty, and low-effort trash. Even your in-the-moment reactions are just so humble and realistic. You're obviously the best KZbinr to watch for learning, but you're also by far the most enjoyable to watch and the most impossible to hate. Just keep being Shok, man, don't change anything. I'm literally only a mid main because there's no resource that even comes close for any other role.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Aw thank you man I really appreciate the kind words
@yasuomain3902
@yasuomain3902 15 күн бұрын
Funny how so many champion tier explanations can be summarized to "Why pick X AP champ when you can pick Viktor/Aurora" xD
@hercegati5889
@hercegati5889 15 күн бұрын
Yeah but its kinda true if you take out the what u like to play factor i mean the subjective part
@UrAwsome55
@UrAwsome55 14 күн бұрын
The guy who said Shok fell off been real silent since this dropped.
@Kehbabz
@Kehbabz 15 күн бұрын
Low elo tierlist on the horizon? Us low elo plebs are looking forward to it
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
I WILL DO IT
@evanjacob8463
@evanjacob8463 15 күн бұрын
Does anyone else skip to the end of the tier list and the watch champion sections you want to watch?
@nyxa8734
@nyxa8734 15 күн бұрын
i think that's the point
@layyx
@layyx 15 күн бұрын
no I watch the whole 59 minutes on 0.25 and zoom on shoks lips
@crazyolben4305
@crazyolben4305 14 күн бұрын
Diabolical... I need to do the same now 🫣​@@layyx
@SynderFGC
@SynderFGC 15 күн бұрын
Let it be known, I'm super down for 2hour tierlists, just to hear about all the offmeta picks, like Yorick, Garen, Nasus, Cait, etc
@NikosIXII
@NikosIXII 12 күн бұрын
Low elo tiers list would be great! Thanks for the content
@accelrust
@accelrust 15 күн бұрын
been waiting for shok upload
@Bittexu
@Bittexu 14 күн бұрын
Justice for Velkoz
@gagehibbins3470
@gagehibbins3470 14 күн бұрын
swung by from your azir guide on mobafire a few days ago, great high elo content. Earned a sub fs
@layyx
@layyx 15 күн бұрын
looking forward for the aurora guide 🔥
@AmonForatto
@AmonForatto 15 күн бұрын
A objetives tier list would be nice, since there are so many atm. :)
@Veggas9
@Veggas9 15 күн бұрын
Can you Do a video of Syndra gameplay in new season?
@blueocean1844
@blueocean1844 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for the vid, I don't really like tier lists but the discussion around it is helpful
@bobofriend2
@bobofriend2 14 күн бұрын
Hey Shok, appreciate the consistently great content. Would you say that at lower elos, champ mastery is ultimately more important than matchups, team comps, or even the strength of the champ? For example, Vex is one of the two champs that I have the most mastery with, and I've found that I'm much more able to consistently snowball and carry games with her than I am with champs like Viktor, Aurora, Galio who I have a bit of experience with and are 'better' picks. With those champs, I tend to do quite well in lane phase, but I find that in skirmishes and especially later teamfights, I just have to spend too much time thinking about what I should do and I often end up losing the game. Whereas with Vex, I have much more muscle memory and rarely will throw a game with bad teamfight execution. I'm sure you've talked about this before but I'm curious what your thoughts are.
@yuvi4270
@yuvi4270 12 күн бұрын
Not shok but i agree on your take. It makes sense to stick to what you are comfortable playing if you want to gain lp in the short term but in my opinion learning to play meta picks like viktor makes your life so much easier in the long run to gain lp because some champs like viktor are straight up busted :D. I was in a similar situation like you. 1 year ago i was only playing vlad even when matchups were dogshit and was stuck in high diamond. I learned to play more meta champs and rn i have 75+ wr in diamond this season.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Yes definitely, champion mastery trumps pretty much anything else and on top of that in lower elos (or honestly just elos below master) you'll probably find that champions with easier to execute mechanics or gameplans will give you a lot more success
@bobofriend2
@bobofriend2 11 күн бұрын
@ That's what I thought, thanks! I will continue to stomp my silver games with Vex then!
@Salaryman_
@Salaryman_ 14 күн бұрын
You recommended Malz as a low elo pick to me about a month ago, since then I’ve spammed it and this new season I’m like 56%wr, it is very weak before first item blackfire. I find malz is just a neutralizer that scales to the mid to late. Is there anything with a similar play style that is better early game?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Something like Syndra maybe, really good scaler that's actually pretty strong early. She's a bit more difficult to play though
@Salaryman_
@Salaryman_ 11 күн бұрын
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@Festiino
@Festiino 15 күн бұрын
In a video of yours I complained about leblanc. I’m a Yone player and you saying that leblanc is good into yone explains my frustration with this matchup 😅
@nowhhey
@nowhhey 11 күн бұрын
hey what could be a good AD champ for a champion pool with akali, syndra, and ahri ? nice video i like it
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 10 күн бұрын
Yone, Corki, Naafiri etc
@yowen941
@yowen941 10 күн бұрын
SHOK ALWAYS DELIVERING GOATED CONTENT
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 10 күн бұрын
@93grams
@93grams 14 күн бұрын
HOLEheartedly enjoyed this well PrEPared video.
@krzysiekskoczkowski7154
@krzysiekskoczkowski7154 12 күн бұрын
Hey, what champs for that list you reccomend for the low elo player? Im ex gold player, now Bronze and i wanna try to hit plat to play with my friends
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Simpler ones for the most part, Swain, Ahri, Vex, Naafiri, Lux etc
@krzysiekskoczkowski7154
@krzysiekskoczkowski7154 11 күн бұрын
@@ShokLeague thanks :D
@nihteal
@nihteal 14 күн бұрын
i love how everyone puts kassadin in lower tiers and say that its bad champ but he is like that since season 11 and not a single good buff only nerfs. Depressing
@Mo-tv9kh
@Mo-tv9kh 15 күн бұрын
your wish shall be granted
@lucerne1070
@lucerne1070 10 күн бұрын
Hi, what do you think of cho gath mid?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 10 күн бұрын
Not bad, probably B tier
@WinterOrSummer
@WinterOrSummer 15 күн бұрын
i love it when you include qiyana in these even though i already know what youre gonna say, what do you think she needs for her to be alright in lane? also S tier galio ftw
@borastrael2251
@borastrael2251 14 күн бұрын
nice tier list
@Xerathiel
@Xerathiel 15 күн бұрын
While spamming swiftplay for mastery going seraph + roa on assasins. The way to not make them a shit build is to go: Doran > tear > 2 amp > staff > boots > roa > seraph. This way you get to 120 ap very early.
@siddharthravishankar7243
@siddharthravishankar7243 15 күн бұрын
Hey Shok, where can I find those videos of you playing Malz? I main him and would like to learn from them
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
I can't remember if I played any on stream, I think they were all off stream I'm afraid :(
@alvingillarlera
@alvingillarlera 15 күн бұрын
Great video, Shok! I'm wondering what your personal thoughts on S15 are. Breath of fresh air or frustrating mess?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
I'm winning a lot so currently it's very fun, I feel like when the ranks settle it might be kinda frustrating though
@sayonqlo
@sayonqlo 15 күн бұрын
I would say Diana feels very strong if you go celerity + waterwalking + early boots. Very strong map influence and can snowball her team the boots upgrade
@lawanimeshorts
@lawanimeshorts 15 күн бұрын
Why Malignance over Ludens on Aurora?
@hercegati5889
@hercegati5889 15 күн бұрын
In my opinion malignance, cuz u definately getting more out if cuz of the ult CDR but you should also consoder balckfire its deals more damage in teamfights than luden and also malignance is not always a most buy it really depends on the team comp. I think luden rarely the best choice for her maybe if you hard wining the lane and get a lot of kills early and you start snowballing insanely hard and roaming it can be good to increase your solo dps and end early. Luden is only for thoose who cant realy buy else like lb vex etc. But the master @shok should know better 😅
@alexanderanton468
@alexanderanton468 15 күн бұрын
Shok mentioned this on stream: Ludens seems like a bait item to him. It was the best AP mana choice in early 2024 but fell off after nerfs and made Blackfire and Malignance way better alternatives for certain mages. This is why you see those 2 items more often than Ludens on most AP mids these days.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Kinda feel like it does similar dmg while also giving ulti haste, the big downsides are weaker build path + lower waveclear but normally you can play around it. If you want to go luden its fine tho, I don't think the difference is that big
@vermillionobscurity1162
@vermillionobscurity1162 14 күн бұрын
Seems so strange that Yone is rated so high when he has such a bad winrate. I know winrate doesn't say the whole story but a 48% winrate in emerald+ and a sub 47% in diamond+ is just brutal. I don't see how the new changes have done anything but giga nerf him. Early skirmishing before he hits his power spikes is even more prevalent and out of all of the tier 3 boots beserkers are some of the worst. Ad junglers are better now than they have been for a while and overall most of the top tier midlaners either completely destroy him or have completely winnable odds. Aurora, lb, akali, ori absolutely dookie on you and while yes you can beat and outscale galio ahri akshan sylas but those champs completely outroam you early and have a lot of gank/ 2v2 set up. Idk I guess I wish there was a bit of a better explanation as to why the changes in season 15 make yone as strong as you suggest. Most of what I heard was that he has mixed damage and decent gank set up. I feel like you could remove 200 hp from the champ lvl 1 and those would still be true statements but obviously the champ would have a sub 40% winrate D tier. Also top 3 winrates in soloq for emerald+ are cassio top, cassio mid, and cassio bot lol.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Yone is basically always strong because he can neutralize just about any lane if played correctly between high movespeed and crazy sustain. His gank threat makes him difficult to punish as well, especially post 6. He scales insanely well and is extremely strong on the sidelane. Probably his biggest weakness is teamfighting before 2 items, which admittedly is a pretty big weakness, but he can just spend this time splitpushing since his 1v1 on bork is unmatched.
@ps-zs3wt
@ps-zs3wt 13 күн бұрын
Malzahar definitely feels strong rn. Agree with the rest.
@Xandrit3
@Xandrit3 14 күн бұрын
I think Naafiri could be higher. If Naafiri can never W onto someone with well-timed cc, then just run Comet and poke. If you can't kill your lane opponent, you can at least poke them down enough they have to concede priority unless they want to be ganked. They can either walk up and risk dying to a gank, or recall and give Naafiri a timer to roam.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Eh from my experience laning against Naafiri it's pretty hard to hit both parts of Q and I think you need to hit a few of those to really force someone out of lane. It possibly is underrated and could sneak a bit higher but she still has some pretty clear weaknesses, I do want to try her more tho
@nishinoja3775
@nishinoja3775 14 күн бұрын
As a Sylas main I don't understand these conquerer runes everyone plays apparently. In my experience without electrocute you just make the lane too hard for yourself. If they have 3 tanks I can understand but even with 2 tanks I'd prefer electrocute to have pressure in lane.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Electrocute is way better in lane like you said but conq makes you unbeatable in skirmishes, just a tradeoff I guess
@hongodongo9053
@hongodongo9053 6 күн бұрын
Whats your opinion on gangplank mid ( comet, second wind mostly), getting decent wood league winrate but it feels like its probably mad trash against.anyone good in lane. The skirmish however feels really good once you can 1 shot wave,
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 2 күн бұрын
Think its not too bad, good vs most melees + weaker ranged matchups
@dustyacer2556
@dustyacer2556 15 күн бұрын
zilean and akshan are bugged rn. Zilean passive takes like 8 seconds bc tp bugs it out. akshan passive is invis unless actively hitting the enemy and his r doesnt reveal enemies anymore. Rip my champs.
@ow_lars8780
@ow_lars8780 15 күн бұрын
New Season 15 feels cruel there are so many casuals coming back and feeding hard. We should take a Winter Break to prevent dropping.
@Kyroshi
@Kyroshi 15 күн бұрын
Or you just eat when they feed 😊
@yunginunicorn
@yunginunicorn 14 күн бұрын
i just wanna play qiyana and stomp lane again man what happened to my champ 😭
@blopshth4096
@blopshth4096 15 күн бұрын
Cassio passive boost for feats is actually better than the boot upgrades
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Game dependent, but yes the free stats are pretty solid, sometimes you'd prefer to have more %pen or one of the shields tho
@hushe3302
@hushe3302 7 күн бұрын
@@ShokLeague ? she has the highest winrate in 3 lanes
@oxygon
@oxygon 15 күн бұрын
If you were to give a quick placement and comment on cho and morgana mid, where would it be? :) Love your videos!
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Hmm I've tried morgana mid, I'd say she's a low B, if she had just a bit more damage on her W I think she could maybe be A. She just barely doesn't kill waves quickly enough which is annoying. Cho'gath is probably B most of the time, maybe A if you use him as a counterpick
@joerileijdsman3279
@joerileijdsman3279 Күн бұрын
I been a vlad otp since a few seasons, this season tried a few games of Galio. Wth is that champ lol, your like a god on the rift, waveclear no problem, cc no problem, damage no problem, being tanky af no problem, have tp and ult no problem xD
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 16 сағат бұрын
Ye tanks are disgusting, especially Galio
@hercegati5889
@hercegati5889 15 күн бұрын
Hi Shok, I am actually suprised that you put akshan int to hi-mid A tier, I actually think like its low A maybe last at the A tier. I feel like he is preatty easily counterable with most of the A tier mages and if he can be neutralized with like 99% of A tier champs, maybe I under rate that you can easily grab a few random kills and become really strong but i am not sure. I strongly disagree with ambessa A tier she is strong but i feel like picking her is too situational to be A tier and also she can be punished really hard, and she is also a popular top pick so for me ambessa is a high B tier. About neeko A tier i was doubtful but you convied me!
@Saul_Goodman555
@Saul_Goodman555 15 күн бұрын
Akshan is more of a high-elo-skewed champ and MOST of those matchups in A-tier are skill matchups that're slightly favoured towards him. He's also one of those champs that can choose not to lane against hard counters (by constantly roaming and making impact somewhere else on the map) and still have a good chance at winning the game. Just watch how Phantasm, Davemon, Yamatodeath, etc, play him
@axb_zero8457
@axb_zero8457 15 күн бұрын
nah akshan is super strong in lane and even stronger in skirmishes, he definitely deserves this placement
@hercegati5889
@hercegati5889 15 күн бұрын
@@Saul_Goodman555 Hmm i see i see why are you saying that. I am not in super high elo i am like in the middle grounds for now but from experience akshan isnt that great, but i should try it out, cuz i have 0 games w him xD
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
I kinda think he's counterable too but in my experience he still manages to get fed from random skirmishes and river fights, I think he'd suck in a controlled environment but just excels way too well in soloq.
@Frogasaurus
@Frogasaurus 15 күн бұрын
My current champ pool is velkoz, ahri, fizz, hwei with velkoz being my best blind pick, since i want to pick up an ad mid. Out of nafiri, talon, ad tf, corki or smolder which do you think would be the best for both solo queue and coordinated play?
@Wextrify
@Wextrify 15 күн бұрын
Def Corki. Talon is not playable in lane and also has bugs right now, ad tf and smolder are basically dead on mid but not sure about naafiri
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
I'd say Corki or Naafiri
@Frogasaurus
@Frogasaurus 11 күн бұрын
@@ShokLeague thank you very much, I'm looking forward to trying them both out!
@eric-ls1mx
@eric-ls1mx 15 күн бұрын
reason lux isn’t played more is because of her ban rate 💀
@cryotheum
@cryotheum 15 күн бұрын
How viable is Garen mid?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Pretty good actually, I think high B or maybe even low A, especially in lower elos
@raynlaze1339
@raynlaze1339 15 күн бұрын
What about heimerdinger, karma and ap kogmaw? EDIT: where will Mel be in this list?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
AP kog karma and heimer probably all in B. Not sure about Mel, Riot likes new champs to be op so once mastered she will probably be A or S
@TheIncredibleHieb
@TheIncredibleHieb 15 күн бұрын
Yeah i always loved Lissandra, but i am silver to gold and even if i point out that i need some help to really do stuff and that after 6 i have really isnane gank set up, no one ever comes to make use of that.
@zakariaop
@zakariaop 15 күн бұрын
Im an emerald 4 hardtsuck what the tip you can give me to improve and climb to master
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Watch other peoples games and compare them to your own, spot the difference and try fix it
@verdi4943
@verdi4943 13 күн бұрын
what tier kayle mid?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Maybe low B
@Alexcbecker
@Alexcbecker 14 күн бұрын
Shoklicious!
@aaroncraig7744
@aaroncraig7744 15 күн бұрын
I'm confused. Where morgana?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
She'd probably be C tier, I don't think she's a strong midlaner. In a low elo tier list she might be higher because of her simplicity but her waveclear isn't quite strong enough to one shot the wave early so she should get bullied a lot
@albert_bortoletto
@albert_bortoletto 6 күн бұрын
U missed the bomba, tier SSS+++
@Zokali
@Zokali 15 күн бұрын
Hello father, when are you returning with the milk?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Any milkers?
@vmlinuxz
@vmlinuxz 15 күн бұрын
what about zyra mid?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Might be underrated tbh, does a lot of dmg but she's very vulnerable to longer range mages or ganks
@NunoMatias-qq7ud
@NunoMatias-qq7ud 15 күн бұрын
"Malza is really hard to pull off in higher elos", meanwhile me with a 62% WR in 200 games in EUW Master elo. He´s not hard to pull in higher elos, as hard as it sounds to believe, people just don´t know how to play him, he has a lot of mini games that makes his lane actually very good into a lot of champions
@star-lord2256
@star-lord2256 15 күн бұрын
Can you elaborate on those mini games please ?
@siddharthravishankar7243
@siddharthravishankar7243 15 күн бұрын
I mean...considering there has only been one malzahar OTP consistently hit Challenger in the history of the game that's saying something...And by consistently, I mean even that was only twice from memory. Especially when the guy just disappeared out of existence too and could very well have been a big name pro player
@NunoMatias-qq7ud
@NunoMatias-qq7ud 15 күн бұрын
@@star-lord2256 Constantly reseting E on minions or Champions using your Q is really important cause it makes it that you don´t have to waste more mana on E making you recover mana by killing stuff. Spacing is really important on malza after level 6 cause if you are able to reset 1 single E with Q and R you basicly use 3 E and can 100 to 0 people by spacing well and making them take W damage. Using abilities on certain order to always summons 3 Monsters with your W instead of 2 or 1 cause you get more value for the used mana. He´s not a difficult champion to play but he does have a lot of these small things that you can abuse but Shok is clearly not good enough to do so which is normal he doesn´t play him, but i´m playing on 500 LP EUW and have a 62% WR on him in 200+ games Also people are simply clueless on his correct runes, taking aery and inspiration when you sohuld be taking comet and precision makes a big difference too
@NunoMatias-qq7ud
@NunoMatias-qq7ud 15 күн бұрын
@@siddharthravishankar7243 And why is this an argument? He´s making a list Plat/Emerald+ that is nowhere near Challenger so mentioning it at all shows that you have no clue what you talking about cause that´s such a meningless % of players People from plat, Emerald, Diamond and even Low Master they don´t know how to punish Malza and he´s a chmampion that can solo counter intere team comps. People also take the wrong runes all the time. Aery, Manaflow,transcendance,scorch and inspirtaion 2nd. This is all wrong cause the correct page is comet, arcanist, absolute focus, gathering storm and precision 2nd. Shok not only doesn´t know how to play the champ but he also doesn´t even take the correct set up so how is he suppose to get a good ideia on him, it´s impossible. It´s the same thing with Vel Koz i´ve talked aobut on previous lists, he has no clue what he´s talking about when it comes to these champs so he puts them lower than they should. It´s the pro player syndrome, being stuck on the same picks for the intere season never evolving
@SkarM_x
@SkarM_x 14 күн бұрын
Tanks do so much damage it's crazy. I (bad player) got giga stomped by a tahm kench. Ive just been playing kench support. Its much more fun to beat junglers or solo laners 1v1 as a support
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Yeah tahm is pretty ridiculous lmao
@coldsoggynoodles9108
@coldsoggynoodles9108 15 күн бұрын
Mr. Shok Midlane... ur my favorite.....
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Ur my favorite too coldsoggynoodles...
@NekoKatto
@NekoKatto 15 күн бұрын
Gonna show this video to all my friends who say "Aurora is useless since she lost her ult CC" niehehehe
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Ye u fkn tell em
@aristidisgrigoriadis3812
@aristidisgrigoriadis3812 15 күн бұрын
why is tristana good into ahri ?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Ahri has very low waveclear early so you can spam shove her into tower and prevent her from impacting the map. You also can easily pin her to sidelane + outscale her
@moonlover1313
@moonlover1313 15 күн бұрын
Ty for making sure to mention Seraphine Mr. Shok! Always nice seeing her mentioned in her actual role, especially when she's not awful in the meta!
@almog8472
@almog8472 15 күн бұрын
justice for seraqueen!
@pintarolalol
@pintarolalol 15 күн бұрын
LULU MENTIONED
@ChannelMerz
@ChannelMerz 15 күн бұрын
Sorry but hard disagree with the Cassiopeia rating, one look at her stat's this patch have shown that she has clearly benefited in the new season, despite not being able to buy tier 3 boots.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
I suspect her winrate is higher from a few things, 1. there are probably more cassio players taking ghost since TP was nerfed, I don't think this should really be viable in higher elo and into harder matchups but if you can get away with this in lower elos then she's gonna really benefit from that, 2. her winrate is always sitting around the 53% range anyway because of her being a onetrick/counterpick champ. It's still really difficult to play her mid because of the meta matchups, but as a counterpick can be good and she's much much better in top or bot (as a 1 trick)
@ChannelMerz
@ChannelMerz 13 күн бұрын
​@@ShokLeague I still think she is better beyond just a counter pick in mid, as her strengths in skirmishing seem apparent in this patch, but def fair points made by you, and youre the Cass master after all
@Salaryman_
@Salaryman_ 14 күн бұрын
You missed Garen mid, top of A tier 😂
@IHunter2k
@IHunter2k 15 күн бұрын
Hey shok I have been feeding every game forever now because I allways lose my lane matchup no matter what I do I can't beat Zed or Syndrs especialy. It is mainly becausr I can't dodge skillshots and get harassed under tower or if I have priority I csn't harass the oponnent because I am scared of jungle so oponnent solo diffs me or gets kills from my jungle or gangs I will quit league as I don't improve
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Hmm could be skillshots, could be that you don't take enough advantage of these champions early in the lane and so they scale out of control, could just be that your champ is countered by them, can't really say
@IHunter2k
@IHunter2k 11 күн бұрын
@ noted I had a 10 win streak somehow
@SynderFGC
@SynderFGC 15 күн бұрын
Never felt so vindicated by hearing a character is bad. I been saying Cassio feels terrible for a bit
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Honestly I might have underestimated her as a counter... but her blindpickability is still absolutely 0
@bakad5458
@bakad5458 15 күн бұрын
The problem with Lux is that anyone with mobility or hard engage just destroys her, and look at how many there are lol. Another thing I’ve found is that in solo Q, my enemy mid laner roams bot and gets kills but I can’t follow an Akali, Yone, Ekko, Liss, etc, if I do I’ll just get jumped EASILYYY when walking. Lux also sucks at skirmishing pre lvl 6 unless your jg has high early dmg
@unlimitedbag
@unlimitedbag 15 күн бұрын
You're not entirely wrong but take it from a high elo Lux player, you need to play her like she's Darius early game. Once I learned that it changed the way I see her and I began to climb. She is a bully and you have to squeeze as much as you can out of her early game power. This will basically give you lane control for the whole early game so they won't really get as many chances to roam on you or jump on you because you should almost always be ahead early game.
@hyquiemistheg.o.a.t1671
@hyquiemistheg.o.a.t1671 15 күн бұрын
Ok but you put over half of the classic mid roster in mediocre tier? Like I understand how important jungle just keeps becoming for some heinous reason. But I think there is some generosity with playing your classic mages. Stuff like Ryze, Cassiopeia maybe even Vladimir. These mages can thrive of early skirmishes and scale up well. Yeah they require an item to get going, but what midlaner doesn’t? Also I genuinely do not understand why everyone calls Aurora broken when she’s outranged and the most dependent on a lead. Yeah her AP ratios are high, but you only have 2 damage abilities aside from your ultimate, both of which you need to hit to proc your passive. It doesn’t make sense that anyone would let Aurora hit them for free, on top of her having as bad range as vlad.
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Half of the classic mid roster is mediocre because the top tier champions are so overloaded and do so many things well that even champions that have specific niches are often overshadowed by the strongest champions that are good at almost everything. Most meta mages do not require an item to really get going, the laning phase is extremely important so if you start the game weak in 1v1 AND weak in skirmishes that's a big problem. Ryze, Cass and Vlad can all be good counterpicks, but to say they are on the same tier as the broken picks would just be incorrect. Aurora is broken because she autos wins 1v1 against just about any melee champ, and the ranged champs that beat her in lane have to be extremely careful of her gank setup which is some of the best in the entire game. A champ like Orianna annihilates Aurora in lane, but Orianna vs Aurora + Jarvan + Leona is absolutely miserable if the jungle support know what they are doing.
@hyquiemistheg.o.a.t1671
@hyquiemistheg.o.a.t1671 11 күн бұрын
@ thank you for the clarifications
@Xerathiel
@Xerathiel 15 күн бұрын
Didn't watch the video yet, but: Movementspeed buff = put xerath to the bottom.
@edogelbard1901
@edogelbard1901 12 күн бұрын
heimerdinger?
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
B tier
@Dornyth
@Dornyth 14 күн бұрын
no love for pantheon mid smh
@duhzuala1779
@duhzuala1779 15 күн бұрын
That was fast
@shonboy2163
@shonboy2163 15 күн бұрын
Ngl the veigsr hate is crazy 😭
@tylerzhu5903
@tylerzhu5903 15 күн бұрын
1 second 10 views shook falling off
@andrew_240
@andrew_240 15 күн бұрын
What is this pantheon erasure!
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
Oops I'll put him back
@Hearthstone3509
@Hearthstone3509 9 күн бұрын
Cassio in b, nibba being clueless
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 8 күн бұрын
gyazo.com/15c9a60ea644dd06268a0472896ada67 very powerful counter, completely worthless blind in the meta. Maybe you could argue she's A tier because of this but then you'd have to put so many other powerful counters in A tier as well
@isamuelVods
@isamuelVods 15 күн бұрын
He skipped Karma : (
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 11 күн бұрын
B tier! Pretty good with the meta junglers but Orianna is a better version of her I think
@Monstufpud
@Monstufpud 15 күн бұрын
CHOGATH MID
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Probably underrated tbh
@alwaysabiggafish3305
@alwaysabiggafish3305 15 күн бұрын
Akshan counters Viktor....
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Don't think so...
@lolchannel1042
@lolchannel1042 15 күн бұрын
Lux is so broken OP in my opinion. I main syndra and then I am against lux there is no way to do something to kill her or help team. You just suffer under tower from her poke which is very easy to land. So weird that all midlane content creators except of you underrate her.
@benesef
@benesef 15 күн бұрын
let me guess, silver? gold?
@lolchannel1042
@lolchannel1042 15 күн бұрын
@ yes gold-platinum
@benesef
@benesef 15 күн бұрын
@@lolchannel1042 ok, if u want some tips just try to track her cooldowns so you can dodge her e and q, also she perma dies to ganks if u have any setup
@jamiebruner8463
@jamiebruner8463 15 күн бұрын
eq onto lux should be a free kill after 2 items
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
I have a syndra vs lux vod in I think my season 13 road to rank 1 playlist, but you should be able to get a small lead early by harassing her + walking aggro up on the wave
@alwaysabiggafish3305
@alwaysabiggafish3305 15 күн бұрын
Hwei counters Viktor...
@ShokLeague
@ShokLeague 14 күн бұрын
Definitely not this matchup is so unplayable for Hwei
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