What is the Best PS4 Controller (Nacon Revolution Unlimited, Astro C40, SCUF Vantage)?

[@terrorizer77]

I never use any of the controllers featured but I'm loving the original PS4 controller design. Suits me so far

[@1silentwar]

Dude on the right had me dying when he wasn’t talking

[@stanisawpopiel4497]

Me too

[@xteqkoih1310]

Lol

[@Milefox]

yup

[@yeezkneezz6861]

I was looking for a comment like that 😂😂😂

[@nellylegend7264]

Pair of fucking dicks the both of them. Most uninteresting video I've seen sat at the Grammy's table both over 40 talking crap about game controllers. Living the dream

[@luxul1879]

Great video. Really appreciate the honestly. Definitely going to go with the Nacon Pro Unlimited.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you - our methodology is to only speak on things we truly play/test so glad you enjoyed it. Hope the Nacon works out for you. 👍🏻

[@poopybro4700]

I just got it today it’s very good really impressed me

[@bypoa5262]

LoKeD XD hows it going with the controller?

[@poopybro4700]

Exertical well the L2 button stoped working so my mom will go buy a new one with a gift card I got for my bday today

[@galacticwarlock2271]

Nice review. I was disappointed out of the box with the SCUF, had drifting issues.

[@andresisthename]

My Scuff Vantage failed after just a few months. Whatever you choose DON'T choose the Scuff!

[@1silentwar]

andresisthename more details I been using it for months and been smashing my controller and seems pretty fine

[@cydneymali1970]

Mine didn’t last long for 2 days. They first I’ve got it I open the whole thing.. it feels very light on my hand for a big remit. It feels fake. I recommend getting the C40 Astro controller.

[@galacticwarlock2271]

My SCUF drifted out of the box. I have never used it after the first day drift even for RPGs. Worst $200 bucks I've spent on a controller. After much research it seems you need to update it so that you can fix the drift using an app. You need a PC to do this not a phone or chromebook or tabloid, it needs to be a PC. I am happy with a Dualshock at half the price.

[@wastedwifi]

Shitty Controllers U Fuckers

[@AngelXO96]

1silentwar youre one of the lucky few. Scuf is notorious for sending faulty controllers.

[@NotaNinja]

I was trying to decide between the nacon or the Astro. Ty for the video. Nacon looks like the best deal out of these.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Our pleasure. Hope you like it!

[@CheoCascara]

Had scuf, sold it, my astro has ghost sticks that calibration wont fix, got the nacon v3 yesterday, amazing like im playing xbox again and the quality is good.

[@Kythez]

How bad is the stick drift is it like just making your screen slowly move when ur not touching ur right stick or is it like randomly making ur character look up or to the side super fast

[@mason.n3259]

Vanity Kythez the Astro stick drift is usually really bad. I’m checking out this video because my stock ps4 controller is having drift issues.

[@starkindustries7429]

@@mason.n3259 yeah I ended up getting the battle beaver stick internals and swapped them into the stock C40 modules. this helped a lot but man I've spent more money on the C40 replacement parts than a ps4 over the past year and had the controller replaced 2 times on warranty for having the wireless chip in the controller short out. So frustrated with Astro so I went to the Nacon but now the software doesn't recognize the controller is connected. thoughts?

[@luismartinallendeflores4021]

Hey dude, after 3 months how is your nacon responding? Thanks!

[@creepier]

how is the nacon v3 holding up??

[@brettaxel2870]

Hey guys I just wanted point out that you mentioned not being able to find a usb to fit the Astro C40. Duracell (like the battery company) makes a 10 foot micro usb that fits the Astro perfectly. I use mine wired with this cord every day. The cord is about $10 and I found it at Rite Aid.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Excellent - thanks for sharing.

[@brettmoore6533]

Tell 'em Brett! My dawg!

[@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz9]

Thanks for sharing. I bought the astro today and will test ut out tomorrow. The big selling point for me is the rubber texture with the controller

[@SeasonedGaming]

Enjoy it!

[@showmetheevidence8755]

I've returned 1- scuff and 2- c40's within a week of buying each one because of software issues and stick lag. Running with the evolution for a couples months so far and no problems. FYI - the c40 was the most comfortable but the removable sticks loose connection very easily. The scuff is so bad the company should get sued! If you read the directions it says 1) if you don't plug it into your PC and update the software before anything else you could break the controller. 2) if you charge it any other way than through the console you could break the controller 3) you cannot use a headset if you use the controller wirelessly.. controller must be plugged in I hope this helps

[@wonkyfishnut]

Show me the evidence So you can’t use the scuff with ps4?

[@joelm1649]

@@wonkyfishnut scuff vantage has a major deadzone, but the c40 u can fix the floating analogue by resetting it

[@showmetheevidence8755]

@David Bueso I left the side buttons empty because I kept hitting them too.

[@tpatrickm1]

Bro seriously, fuck scuf. The quality of scufs is complete garbage. The fact that they needed to make a vantage 2 after only 1 fucking year says it all. Anyone that bought a vantage should've been able to exchange for a vantage 2.

[@tpatrickm1]

@David Bueso I took the side buttons out becuase i couldnt stop pressing them accidentally. Fuck the vantage though.

[@donjuan2766]

_This review is reassuring for many with little pro controller knowledge looking to enhance there gaming experience, a year later and these controllers are still some of the best playstation devices available next to ps5 dualsense :)🔥_

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you!

[@NWA_1919]

Had the nacon revolution pro v2 for about a year. Bought it second hand for 80€, and i was pretty satisfied tbh. Broke one of the back buttons but was able to fix it easy with superglue. Ended up still buying the revolution unlimited pro, and have to say, it's pretty awesome! The nacon controllers have a really good price/quality ratio! Great controllers for the money. Definitely reccomend the unlimited pro to anyone looking for a pro controller.

[@Illusionized5]

Do ps4 control freek fit on it?

[@NWA_1919]

@@Illusionized5 yes. I'm using a regular ps4 control freek on it.

[@Illusionized5]

@@NWA_1919 is the nacon recon unlimited worth the money? Because im looking for a pro controller

[@NWA_1919]

@@Illusionized5 i mean for me it has been worth the price, been using it quite a bit for the past few months. If you like the xbox style controller layout, and have a pc to customize the software for the controller, then i'd say this is a good controller for you.

[@Illusionized5]

@@NWA_1919 ok thanks.

[@johnnym6343]

Had the Nacon for just over a week and love it. The back button placement wont be for everyone but it works for me.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Glad you like it! Thanks for watching!

[@Django4]

i got one few days back liking it myself but its hard at times with the back buttons

[@pantera0573]

Question how is the Nacon Revolution Unlimited so far? i would like to get one.and its because is the only controller that the shop has.i live on a island and it cost 190$ is worth it for Warzone and of course im waiting for BF6.And what about the triggers i can see that there is not way to adjust the triggers is that a problem for FPS games..please let me know thank you..

[@johnnym6343]

@@pantera0573 I loved it. Unfortunately it’s not compatible with the PS5 so I dont use it anymore

[@pantera0573]

@@johnnym6343 yea i heard that is not compatible for ps5 thats a shame..but i will be using it on my pc..

[@awabkhalifa7343]

Me watching the video knowing iam broke

[@tinygirlbigjerk]

Awab Khalifa swear😂

[@MayhemJJD]

Ayyy broke gang

[@beezyizzi]

Struggle gang😂

[@megawave79]

Search ‘Extremerate back buttons’ on amazon. You’re welcome

[@daltonmorgan180]

Fr

[@Loekatic]

oke so some of the positives about this controller. first its 200 dollar. YESSSS! SO POSITIVE haha

[@darkwinterhades3329]

200 what dollars us?

[@klash3532]

@@darkwinterhades3329 yes.

[@expat8460]

Lol

[@shanegoodwin5125]

i chose scuf over nacon because i wanted wireless...now I'm kicking myself because now all i want is a controller that works properly :(

[@ISLeone]

shane goodwin bacon has wireless and wired modes

[@Your_Delusiona1]

Just got the Nacon unlimited yesterday, love everything about it 😍👍👍👍 got it for Apex Legends , been getting good kills since I been using the controller. 10/10

[@SeasonedGaming]

Glad to hear it!

[@psykotisyinc]

Here's the Dualshock 4 issue I never hear from anybody but myself: the controller is slippery and is hard to hold onto. Maybe im the only one with this issue. And rubber grips don't help. The controller is simply too small

[@SeasonedGaming]

We find it to be small and the plastic isn’t the best. Another nice thing about the Nacon and Astro in particular is the soft touch plastic (similar to the Elite) that has better grip and handles sweat better as well.

[@TheeGreasyGamer]

PlayStation controllers have always been hard to hold on to. They’re made for tiny little Asian hands. I switched from ps3 to Xbox one and the Xbox controller ended up feeling far superior

[@Willymaze]

Ohh yeah, they're super slippery. I use silicone skins for all of my PS4 controller and none for my Xbox One's. You should try the $50~ish Nacon Assymetric wireless; same design language with Xbox layout and soft grip.

[@209benny7]

If you eat a lot while playing the grease will surely make it slippery overtime

[@mr.nobody5140]

I have this issue myself. Infact I find my hands getting sore simply because the controller feels way too small for me especially after long gaming sessions.

[@krispi707]

Nacon hands down the best.. but I'm team Astro C4. Elite 2 can be the best choice 4 xbox..scuff

[@grabngame8256]

Bought the Astro.. played it the same night changed the controller layout once changed it back to ps4 version started drifting.. took it back and on the look for a better controller

[@Incrediblewash]

You literally had to hold the back button for 5 sec and it takes away the stick drift lol.

[@grabngame8256]

Incredible Wash you think I didn’t do that. Come on dude

[@Incrediblewash]

@@grabngame8256 Word, my bad you should have taken it back and got a new one. This is my favorite controller i have the vantage but i dont use it anymore.

[@grabngame8256]

Incredible Wash well to be honest it is a good controller when it worked for me but was a little on the bigger side. A regular controller still feels better to me I’ll have to check more into the vantage

[@Incrediblewash]

@@grabngame8256 i agree its big as fuck lol. Im 6'4 so my hand are like tennis ratchet. If you do get the vantage make sure too update with the latest firmware.

[@qclub_4530]

I have been using astro for over 6 month and it's great

[@VivemusDivision]

For everyone complaining about drift on controllers put your mouth over the thumb stick and blow into the controller sounds crazy but this litterly fixes it. Had major issues with drift on the Razer after 3 months blowing into the controller fixed it. Comes back every few months but same fix again and it goes. This is five years later and still going strong.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Have never heard this before...interesting.

[@iJansport]

If you also play on PC the astro c40 has a built in amp. This makes average headsets sound better. Huge value added there imo. Also as a side note the analog stick modules are trash and have been known to break even with resetting them countless times. Battle beaver customs website sells replacement modules that are higher quality and you have the option to get higher tension modules if you like more precise movements in games.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Great tips - thanks for posting!

[@Kythez]

How bad is the stick drift is it like just making your screen slowly move when ur not touching ur right stick or is it like randomly making ur character look up or to the side super fast

[@iJansport]

@@Kythez it starts small and gets progressively worse. This controller as a whole has a negative view in the long term from most owners. I personally had 2 of them before I decided it was too much to keep investing time and money into. Now I use a regular dualshock 4 with the back button attachment from Sony. That accessory is about $30 pair that with the cost of the ds4 and it's much cheaper than the astro

[@lilhed]

Good job on the video guys!

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you!

[@smslasher9045]

Appreciate the vid. I think there's a lot of gamers who looked at all three of these as opposed to using an adapter for an elite controller, which can be cumbersome. Some people just want to press power and go and not play with adapters and computers. Console players, we like easy.

[@ChochoLevi]

I have tried all those pro controllers and I believe that Razer Raiju and Astro c40 are game changers.

[@imohbalu]

What about dead zones in the dpad... I noticed in most reviews that the Nacon is best when it comes to function

[@vPERPv]

Just wanted to say Astro support supplies free stick modules if your having issues you just have to have proof of your purchase, otherwise great video I wasn’t aware of the nacon I’ve been using the vantage and Astro and Astro just feels it’s money worth.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thanks!

[@xteqkoih1310]

I’m going with nacon all really good choices

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thanks for watching. We hope you enjoy it!

[@Cainfoe]

Superb video, thank you!

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you for stopping by!

[@Darth5]

Did Nacon solve the mic-issue? Because i had to return both of my previous versions of the nacon controller because of a mysterious microphone-connection-problem. Friends in voice-chats were complaining about an echo coming from my mic and also the distant sound of my voice. And according to a lot of internet reports i was not the only one having this problem.

[@SeasonedGaming]

It’s a good question and we were aware of it. All we can say is both our editors used mics with the Unlimited and saw no issues.

[@sevannahscott]

Darth5 I have the unlimited one and I’m Sending it back due to this issue. It’s not been fixed.

[@Darth5]

​@@sevannahscott Thank you! So glad I didn't waste money or time on another nacon controller. I wish they would fix it though, the pro controller really felt great.

[@ILOVEDASTIG]

I've had the nacon for 2 weeks and I've not had a problem. Though I'm using a wireless steelseries headset. I've heard this problem only occurs with a wired headset 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@takutolovex]

When's it gonna be fixed? I really wanted to love the Nacon...

[@bryanbielka6770]

ASTRO C4 Takes time to get use to it but it has a solid grip. Honestly, I like it a lot and the battery doesn’t drain fast at all. I run mine with minimum brightness and I can play 9-12 hours after it dies. People cry because of the price tag if you cant afford it dont complain about it. #NOcheapFcksHere

[@Alt_TayGaming]

Bryan Bielka Nah, the stick drift gets terrible after a while. I tried every solution and got really aggravated. I had to take it back. Definitely not worth $200.

[@bryanbielka6770]

Three Kingz im glad that wasnt my case 🤷🏻‍♂️ and I paid $179 brand new not $200

[@Alt_TayGaming]

Bryan Bielka I stream, so I use my controller daily. But to each his own

[@timplesko9951]

Right now you should consider: -Sony's back button attachment if you Just want extra buttons -razer raiju ultimate - its pricey but its probably the best you can get -razer raiju tournament if you like offset stick layout -nacon controllers are solid but I've seen a lot of bad things said about them so definitly do more reasearch -astro c40 is a great controller - you can have any stick layout and its solid overall -dont buy scuff controllers - you might get the best controller customized to the max, or it might end up breaking in 2 months. Its basicly a lottery. If you have limited budget dont test you luck.

[@mbkillertv6369]

Herobrine team I’ve had the Og Razor Raiju and they work Flawlessly and by far my most favorite controller but the issue with it was that within at least 4-6 months longest a year at most BUT the NEWER MODELS LIKE THE TOURNAMENT AND THE ULTIMATE THAT ARE OUT RIGHT NOW ARE FUCKING TERRIBLE I MADE THIS ALL CAPS BECAUSE ITS THAT BAD THE STICK IS SO BAD ON THEM THAT ITS NEARLY UNPLAYABLE IDK WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR PRODUCTS BUT IT BREAKS MY HEART TBH THATS Y IM HERE WATCHING THIS VID LUCKILY I GOT REFUNDED FOR MY TOURNAMENT

[@richardclayton625]

@@mbkillertv6369 the new razer raiju Ultimate has some weird stick aim.acceleration. it's not linear but Ramps up more you press it. Aiming is so difficult with it

[@mbkillertv6369]

Richard Clayton Ik that’s y I got my refund. Ik what the issue was but idk y this became an issue

[@tombombieth]

Standard PS4 CONTROLLER with Strike Pack. Best paddles ever. Ingenious idea. They should definately make a version without the mods ability.

[@halaigh]

I opted for the Nacon based on this video. I wish you guys would have focused a bit on the audio output, which is so bad I had to return the controller the same day.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Apologies on that. While the sound clarity isn’t perfect, we didn’t experience any of the major issues we’ve heard from others. Thanks for watching and hope you’ve found a good replacement.

[@halaigh]

@@SeasonedGaming Fair enough, thanks for the response :)

[@ege4575]

Nacon for sure looks the best out of all of them FOR SURE

[@SeasonedGaming]

Personally we prefer the Nacon and it gives you some great options with the software. Overall, the SCUF and Astro have a little more hardware customization.

[@smslasher9045]

Have a Nacon and it really depends on what your looking for. I got mine to have a xbox style controller for ps4. That's it, your not going to get a competitive advantage really aside from programmed hair triggers.

[@Avarice01]

The standard PS4 controller is perfect for me on Guilty Gear. The only thing I hate about it is breaking in the Dpad every time I get a new one on warranty when the dpad conductive rubber turns spongy.

[@thomastaylor1737]

Owned the V2 and now have the unlimited. Had a few issues with the v2 but still a great pad. The unlimited is awesome.

[@friendlyfrenzy5221]

Im sticking with the normal PS4 controllers but if I get an Xbox One I'll buy the pro controller

[@Goryglory0209]

Thank you I have an Elite 2 but not sure why I don't like it. Its just feels heavy with no weight adjustment. I was looking for nacon and your review helped a lot

[@SeasonedGaming]

Our pleasure!

[@Handsome_Vlad]

This review is awesome! Mind doing one for brand new announced “Thrustmaster eSwap pro”? Would like to see one on your channel!

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thanks so much! We do a lot of controller and accessory review so possibly. We’ll certainly be checking out the Thrustmaster in the future. 👍🏻

[@thecalamity278]

It looks sick

[@reece8316]

Would you choose a elite 2 over the Nacon? Very torn on what to pick ! Nice review

[@SeasonedGaming]

Yes the Elite 2 is still the gold standard in our opinion though it can have some durability issues. The Nacon is still excellent though!

[@theprotagonist2025]

You guys need to let loose and be comfortable. Be yourselves

[@SeasonedGaming]

Appreciate the feedback.

[@KbeastLabs]

good video, i recently handled an astro at best buy for the first time and fell in love, and especially after learning the joysticks can be angled im def gonna be saving up for one

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you. And excellent - enjoy it!

[@varekai88]

anyone know if kontrolfreek sticks are compatible with the nacon? that's one of the only things stopping me from ordering right now :) great review guys, was excellent to see you handle all three controllers side by side

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you! And they do fit, but not as securely as the dual shock. We prefer not to use them on the Nacon.

[@wking8]

I've always bought the Xbox one thumbsticks off Amazon and put them in my dualshock 4. Makes it 10 times better. Takes 15 minutes.

[@Tables4040]

I never even thought of doing this. I’m gonna try it. Nice tip.

[@wking8]

@@Tables4040Make sure to watch a video on taking it apart. There's a couple things that can get tricky, but once you do it one time, it's np.

[@kevinnunez9083]

I do the same with both my PS4 controllers. I bought Xbox elite thumbsticks off eBay and another set on Amazon, works flawlessly. You can get a disc pad which you can use over the d pad about 6 bucks for two on eBay.

[@stasvladimer8071]

You could try strike pack dominator. I would recommend that too

[@kezkay7403]

Ive been running that for 2 years, cant go wrong

[@MARCM0DE]

@@kezkay7403 Question I just bought a dualshock 4 controller for PC and mobile but did I make a mistake? People telling me left and right dualshock is better Xbox is better I don't know who to ask so I figured if someone is watching this they must have some first hand experience with the Ds4 I'm planning on buying the fps strike pack for the PS4 from GameStop but I was won't should I return it and get my money back and buy an Xbox instead? I like how sexy the dualshock 4 looks in comparison to the Xbox but at the same time I'm playing competitive shooters and functionality is more important than cosmetics Tldr Dualshock 4 with strike pack or Xbox One controller with strike pack?

[@toethlef8994]

MARCM0DE try them both. Use one for a week then send it back then try the other if possible

[@MARCM0DE]

@@toethlef8994 I actually opted for the Nintendo switch pro controller. It's godly with a certain adapter you can use it on all systems

[@V1Salvo]

MARCM0DE I had Xbox one for a year, PS4 since about 3 years and a switch for 8 months and I think the best controller is the PS4 one. But it depends on your hand size, style of play etc. Glad you like the Switch Pro Controller though!

[@i7playz]

My evaluation on this control is 3 out of 10, because it is expensive and there is a defect in it. From the first month, the right or left lime starts to appear, and if the defect appears, you must exchange another amount to buy a new lime, even if you ask Astro to replace it, they will not be convinced that the lime is destroyed with They know it is a bad industry

[@matthew-fj8sy]

would have went for the nacon but the offset joysticks are just not it

[@신-r2r]

The Xbox Elite 2 started double clicking on the triggers and the face buttons particularly the B never worked when I pressed it gently after 2 or 3 month of use. Changed to the Nacon Revolution unlimited for a year and never had a problem. Not gonna lie, I do miss the magnetic charging feature.

[@takutolovex]

Nacon R.U. pros & cons -no trigger stops -mic input muffled or UNHEARABLE!! +connectivity +weights Astro C40 pros & cons -HEAVY stick drift -joysticks overall flimsy +trigger stops +interchangeable modules Razer Raiju T. E. pros & cons -stick drift -shit paddles -connectivity problems -no cable =no mic!! +mecha tactile face buttons Honestly I've tried all and kinda hate and love all

[@markolokoy]

Playing with both the scuf and nacon i feel more comfortable with the scuf paddles it just feels more natural, the buttons on the lower part of the nacon feels harder to reach like it's designed for your ring finger wich would take a while getting used to. Playing destiny competetive a lot btw.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thanks for the input 👍🏻

[@nikolasspradling458]

Scuf also has the removable rumblers. I don’t know about the other two. Thought that was a major talking point. With these controllers they are just hit or miss. Some last months some weeks. Just take care of your shit.

[@michaelmorrison4201]

Damn, what happened Murr? Impractical jokers didn't work out?

[@TomCat777]

You guys need to use the Battlebeaver controller, better than any of those. Better built and have so many cosmetic options

[@SeasonedGaming]

We've received this feedback a lot. Problem we run into is that there is so many options and the cost jumps around a bit. We'll look into it

[@TomCat777]

@@SeasonedGaming I've had mine 3 years and cannot praise it enough. With being disabled I get a lot of game time and it is top notch when it comes to durability. You will not be disappointed

[@lesterkraft660]

Thomas Kaznowski How much is it , and what are the pros/cons ?

[@TomCat777]

@@lesterkraft660 prices vary by the customizations. They are less expensive than most other controllers. The customizations are very extensive and they have something for everyone. The bus quality is top notch. Dinner if the things I love about my controller are the smart triggers which give you instant aiming and shooting, very responsive like tapping a button, the resistance you can get on the thumb sticks is amazing as well, especially if you play FPS games. The buttons on the back are extremely useful, durable and the location can be customized to you. From what I understand if you aren't happy with placement it can be sent back and changed as well. I know a half dozen people who got Scuff controllers and they all broke, most within 2 months. I've had mine for over 3 years now and still plays like the day I received it. You will not be disappointed. The wait time can be trying at times due to them building your controller by hand, not on a production line and it shows in the quality. The wait is more than worth it. Let me know if you do order one and once you get it let me know how you like it

[@Jerry2j]

Power A just came out with the ps4 fusion pro you should take a look at it.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Interesting - we’ll take a look. Thank you for watching!

[@NIXovIllusiin]

I looked at all of them,and for pure functionality the Scuf Vantage worked best for me. The upside was i was able to get it right before the vantage 2 hit for $149.

[@-djg-3955]

Guys love the vid ! I was hoping togetan idea of where I can get a repair for these custom controllers

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you! Sadly in our experience you would need to go through each of the companies directly for support.

[@jcbrown5775]

OR... Just use the adapter that allows your Elite controller to be used on both consoles.

[@Gonzo69batz]

What’s the name of the adapter?

[@jcbrown5775]

@@Gonzo69batz Mcbazel X One Adapter for Xbox One Controller to PS4 Nintendo Switch with Remap Turbo Wireless Connection Function & Rechargeable Battery www.amazon.com/dp/B0794VJ18B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7KSADb6B4JSAS

[@jcbrown5775]

@@Gonzo69batz Works flawlessly for me. Am amazing product.

[@SeasonedGaming]

You can but you lose touchpad and in-controller mic which some games use. Also lose syncing for PS VR. But it’s certainly an option.

[@Gonzo69batz]

TUF GamingX thank you! Much appreciated!

[@Sergio-mt2zv]

Jump to 11:47 if you don’t wanna hear any of the technical stuff and just want their opinions :)

[@ricardobrito7202]

Do you know if the nacon unlimited will work with PS5?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Hi Ricardo, nothing has been 100% confirmed but Sony has stated peripherals from PS4 will work on PS5. No firm details yet though.

[@smslasher9045]

I have a Nacon and it will likely not last that long lol so I wouldn't base your decision on that.

[@ricardobrito7202]

I’ve had the Nacon Revolution for 3 years, at the end just the cable was fucked. I couldn’t find a replacement cable so I bought that unlimited nacon one. I did ask about the ps5 cuz I’ve heard that it might come out 2020. 3 years is long enough for a controller

[@fatalfox13]

If not use a XIM bro I use mouse and keyboard on my ps4

[@TuenStudios]

My Razer Raiju (1st gen) broke last week. (LOVED IT) I bought the Nacon on Saturday. And it might just be me. But I had some serious dead zone issues when changing the joystick “rings”. Also the headphone jack is terrible. All my friends complain about the audio. I eventually returned it today. And I’m gonna get something else as I’ve found out this is a common issue with this model. Do you have any comments regarding audio quality on these three?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Sorry to hear about the issues! We’ve been asked a lot about the audio on these controllers when using headsets and all we can see is we didn’t experience any notable issues. Given the regularity of the reports, it definitely seems like some are affected. But we simply reported what we experienced.

[@rytterl]

I still have my first gen raiju. Pre ordered it before it came out. Going to cry when it finally breaks. But, it's old and worn out, but still works just as well as when it was new. Been looking for a replacement, but with all the reviews on all controllers they seem to have issues that the first raiju just don't have. Sad that it's more or less impossible to find an original raiju at this point.

[@cbalman09]

@Seasoned Gaming At this point in the year with the PS5 coming out soon...if you need a new controller (others are failing), would you purchase the Nacon or buy a cheap controller and hold off until they release a new controller or determine the current one will be compatible?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Hey Chris. Honestly at this point we would wait especially as these controllers can’t be used to play PS5 games. If you plan to keep a PS4 hooked up or playing elsewhere, these are still great options. 👍🏻

[@tedpianoman]

Hey! Great review! Would my dualshock 4 kontrolfreek thumbstick attachments fit on the nacon?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you! So KontrolFreeks work, but not perfectly. This is from Dan: Kind of. If you use the concave sticks, they fit but spin around. If you use the convex sticks, they work like normal but are a little tough to get off.

[@Ramses4821]

You read my mind. Thanks for asking that question

[@itzdcx]

I like the Scuf for the many button customization I like Astro for Module sticks switching between Xbox and PS4 easy to fix I like Nacon for it’s design it just looks and feels better but it does lack things

[@MrZola1234]

I have the Nacon v2. Like it. I am looking for a ps4 controller that allows me to adjust the y and x axis sensitivity of the joystick. I would like to reduce the left and right movement a lot. The Nacon offers some adjustments to the joystick... does the v3 and either of the others offer this type of joystick customization? Do you know any others that work with ps4 that would allow heavy programming of the joysticks?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Honestly, unsure if any have the level of customization it sounds like you’d like. The Nacon Unlimited is quite extensive and we believe it has the most options (of the ones we’ve used). So if that’s not what you’re looking for we’re unsure. Sorry we can’t be of further help!

[@suwanyindee9790]

if Dualshock4 has 2back paddles is should be Perfect for me

[@gloriyahboregah6384]

Go online and buy the “strike pack FPS dominator”. It’s a pair of paddles that attach to the DualShock. It’s only $40, and from my experience, it’s never let me down. You’ll thank me later

[@suwanyindee9790]

@@gloriyahboregah6384Um interestingThanks ( ^ _ ^ )

[@Destins2]

I’ve got the old scuf that’s just the DualShock with 2 paddles on the back, they have the scuf infinity 4ps pro which is literally a DualShock with paddles it’s on scuff website $140

[@suwanyindee9790]

@@Destins2 Thanks. i need scuf but im lives in southeastasia they had many charge my shipping ( T ^ T ) very expensive for me

[@TR-ju5re]

Battle beaver custom controllers.

[@mikemercer5808]

I have the Astro and the Nacon and the Astro L3 button function is terrible. For FPS games a good working L3 for running is crucial. With the Nacon, when you push L3 you keep running. With the Astro my character will stopp running and I have to keep pushing L3 over and over to keep him running. The Nacon is far better IMO.

[@SeasonedGaming]

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

[@jekiapp]

woah, that should be a defect product bro, I got that effect back then when I use cheap controller

[@l3wdlemon708]

Swap the sticks and do the double reset. Itll fix it trust me

[@frazzledazzle89]

The L3 button on the Nacon (in my experience) also has quite a short life in comparison to a standard ps4 Dual Shock. So if you've experienced a short life span of the L3 with a Dual Shock i wouldn't go near the Nacon IMO.

[@resonate9815]

My original PS4 Dualshock 4 controller began having issues with input lag and analog drift. I had to buy a new one. Three months later my new DS4 began experiencing drift. Now my Dpad is no longer working. WTF? I like the ergonomics of the DS4 but the internals are utter crap. Furthermore taking the controller apart is a painful experience. Need to find a better alternative.

[@SeasonedGaming]

As we note in the video we definitely recommend Nacon!

[@resonate9815]

@@SeasonedGaming does it have hall effect sensors?

[@jaygemn8723]

I’ve ordered the scuf however I have made sure to go to normal PS4 thumb sticks instead of the scuf version to stop drift and minimise the chance of it

[@TamarinPamarin]

PS should add motion controls for the aiming. Switch pro controller with motion aim is game changer. Analog stick aim can’t never be as acurate as motion control aiming.

[@ThatFatCat]

I don’t think you remember the ps3 days. Motion aiming was horrible.

[@johnm2320]

I've been through 4 scuf vantage controllers (need PC to update firmware) still breaks. I just recently bought the astro c40 (huge controller) button placements are terrible and it broke already. I've since then went back to a default controller. Haven't tried the nacon but I doubt its reliable. Stick to a default controller please people. I am soon going to release my own brand of a reliable controller for my people so parents dont empty their pockets on garbage such as these you see now. Just stick with the original default ps4 brand controller....

[@TG6134DN]

If you like the default controller, but want the extra buttons, go for the extreme rate upgrade kit, took me about 30 minutes to build it, and works like a charm

[@Brendjord]

do you have a website on the controlelr you are releasing?

[@SherryDC]

Dude default is not comfortable at all for bigger hands I would never ever give away my c40 for any other controller it terms off comfortability and no matter what brand you buy, your sticks are going to wear down at some point but and rather quickly if you play a lot . The fact that you can swap the modules so easily (I use battle beaver modules with extra tension) means that the lifespan of that controller is better than everything on the market.

[@Kythez]

How bad is the stick drift is it like just making your screen slowly move when ur not touching ur right stick or is it like randomly making ur character look up or to the side super fast

[@pmm4177]

I'll never buy another scuf product, my vantage quit working 10 months after I got it and scuf completely ignored my problems. Now I have a $200 trophy display to remind me if you're not a sponsored gamer or pro gamer all that matters is your money. I just ordered the nacon evolution to replace it

[@seifmaarouf4373]

Hi love your content just have one question did you have any issue with a mic when you plug it in the nacon unlimited?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Thank you! Before replying, we double checked using an Astro headset and we haven’t seen any issues. If we experience any in the future, we’ll be sure to update this comment.

[@TheMobster93]

I have been using the nacon since it came out. you need to raise the mic sensitivity when using it wirelessly or in general with a plugged in headset. I prefer using a wireless headset or a usb headset connected to the ps4.

[@takutolovex]

@@TheMobster93 guys. The mic input hardware is GARBAGE on Naconvs products and the only reason I couldn't live with this product anymore

[@gryphon123456]

How intuitive are the rear buttons on the nacon? I feel Like they’re in a place where I’d be accidentally hitting the buttons allot.

[@SeasonedGaming]

It’s tough to say as it depends completely on how someone holds the controller honestly. For Ains (left in vid) he said he doesn’t use them but also has no problem avoiding them.

[@frazzledazzle89]

yep, there was nothing wrong with where they were placed in the previous models, a step backward for me. I own one and now cant use the back buttons then later the l3 button broke after about 2 months

[@Nagakuren943]

If you are still interested, from my experience they are very easy to access, nice to press, no "accidental press". I've also owned the Nacon Pro 2, where i found those extra buttons a bit uncomfortable, while i feel them perfect on the Unlimited version. It's 100% subjective. As of some uses of the 4 extra buttons: i personally mapped the R3 and L3 to M1 and M2, and mapped the D-pad Up and Down direction to M3 and M4 :) You can't use marcos now like mapping Triangle + Circle to M1, which is a shame :(

[@takutolovex]

Anyone having problems with people hearing you through your mic?

[@PSX04]

Nacon for sure

[@Simbabweman]

I had a nacon revolution pro 2 recently (really nice controller, was happy with it) but discovered that it would only output sound to the right side of all of my headphones/headsets when the normal PS4 controller worked perfectly with them. The controller seemed brand new although it was pre-owned so idk if it was a fault with that one or if they all have faults as I've heard that the revolution unlimited pro has a bit of a hard time with mics where other people can't hear you well

[@vincentlonbird1806]

Same issue with my pro 2 but appeared after two years, after I started sharing the controller with my little brother. It appears the problem exists when you're not careful with the controller, because of low quality I guess. Got the Unlimited recently (second hand) it's good with zero issues. Kinda prefer the pro 2 though idk why.

[@Simbabweman]

@@vincentlonbird1806 I got a replacement pro 2 Rig edition and it's not got any issues so far so I'm happy. eBay for £53. I was looking at the unlimited but at the price (around £90-£109 cheapest everywhere I looked I think) I couldn't do it as I knew I was happy with the pro 2 before. I especially liked the pro 2 dpad for its rolling ability which I wasn't sure about with the unlimited.

[@DaBachela]

Nacon is the way to go. Astro is ridiculous charging $200 for a controller and they can’t even provide a braided cable or a second option for the Dpad. That’s just being stingy as f*** in my opinion. Been using the c40 almost everyday for several months now, before that a Nacon, and I can not wait to get back to using a Nacon. They just feel better in hand.

[@danyktm2829]

what about burn controller ??? it was good couple years ago

[@angusewin7632]

Did you have any problems with the mic not working on the nacon

[@SeasonedGaming]

We have not no. We’ve heard reports of it, but haven’t experienced issues ourselves.

[@suplexwarframe1523]

about Nacon revolution unlimited pro lot of people says Back Buttons is harder to using and this is biggest problem. I think best of nacon is revolution pro 2

[@opgam3r482]

I can only speak to the Scuff Impact, which is the Symmetrical analog version of the impact & vantage pretty much... After not being able to play getting so used to the back paddles... I truly dislike the "paddle" design... I like where other controllers are going with inputs in or around the grip of the back of the controller... I have medium to large hands... That being said, you really have to change your whole grip to hit the paddles on their sweet spot... and the L1 R1 feel cheap. The DualShock 4 by far *feels better regarding every button... The trigger resistance is good, but you can't customize the tension AND the dead zone... so you can tork it tight, and then your game will act as though you have it depressed all the way... Each of these have features i wish were all combined into one controller... Also, The DualShock OEM sticks are scuff molded, so even if you like the DualShock OEM style, you need to get the scuff manufactured one. If scuff can get their buttons a little more like the First party pressure sensitive feel, and just get past the paddle feature (which unfortunately what made them what they are toaday) so seeing them abandon paddles is grim... Hopefully next gen we get a 1st Party controller that has it all... (the impact as well has some throw on the right stick)

[@pantera0573]

Question how is the Nacon Revolution Unlimited so far? i would like to get one.and its because is the only controller that the shop has.i live on a island and it cost 190$ is worth it for Warzone and of course im waiting for BF6.And what about the triggers i can see that there is not way to adjust the triggers is that a problem for FPS games..please let me know thank you..

[@SeasonedGaming]

We still love the Nacon though be warned it only works for PS4 games. Sony does not allow it to work on PS5 titles. On the triggers, we love their shape and action, but there is no adjustability (locks).

[@pantera0573]

@@SeasonedGaming alright thank buddy for respond.yes i will get it today.i dont play on ps4 it will be for my pc..but lets hope it can last long,thank you so much..

[@SeasonedGaming]

Our pleasure. Good luck with it!

[@SWE_V1ctoR]

For a Call of duty player. which of these controllers do you recommend and why?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Honestly, COD is a perfect example of a title these controllers can help with due to the massive amount of tuning and customization they possess. It really comes down to personal preference in the end, but as we said in the vid we feel the Nacon is the best "overall" option. To note, our editor-in-chief has played in all of the early access days for Modern Warfare using the Nacon and said it performed really well.

[@SWE_V1ctoR]

Seasoned Gaming Thank u!

[@SeasonedGaming]

Our pleasure. Thanks for stopping by!

[@getsupernaztygaming5664]

Nacon unlimited!!!!!

[@ShadeofGaz]

I have the nacon and stick drift happened in 3 months and the L1 has been stuck for awhile now. I'd take it a part but I have to take the mother board out to clean the L1 button which I really don't want to do.

[@diegoborjas6301]

Hey, the Scuf controller is very delicate and for me the triggers have broken many times, which one is the most durable?

[@pietropetrella5583]

Nacon

[@diegoborjas6301]

Ritmo. I just bought the Astro c40 :(

[@viperomen914]

. astro is the way to go if your looking for a well built remote in general no cheap parts

[@poke12gauge32]

I like the scuff one but at the price they cost imma just keep buying regular ones when they crap out

[@howingcommando]

What comes with the scuf out of the box because I've been hearing all the custom parts are sold separately

[@SeasonedGaming]

Some things are separate but it comes with quite a bit. You can find Unboxing and Review videos on this channel too. 👍🏻

[@jakelee792]

If the C40 and the Nacon are the same price which would you choose?

[@Kythez]

C40 cause unless u are an Xbox layout player cause I don’t like the way the sticks are on the Nacon the C40 u can change it how ever and the only problem that the c40 has is it sometimes gets stick drift but the paddles on the c40 are perfect the nacon paddles to me are garbage

[@rons3486]

This is never a good comparison for me because I despise the x-box thumb stick configuration... Thus the Nacon, which seems to be best, is an automatic NO for me! I wish they would make a wireless ps4 setup.

[@jacobshank9362]

Same! Had xbox one for years, switched to ps4 and loved the analog stick symmetry.

[@mboomer88]

I prefer the c40 just because you can set the stick layout to be like ps4. I can't stand the sticks on Xbox controllers not being symmetrical. I don't know why people like the offset design so much. I'm open to feedback though, would it be something I would prefer if I practiced with it more?

[@stefaniep4374]

More than likely.

[@mboomer88]

Thanks for the reply. I only used an Xbox controller during cod infinite warfare and my friend had the elite version of the controller. I did manage to rank about average. But I thought why? Why is this controller better in some of the manufacturers' eyes (since 2 of the 3 major competitors had Xbox style setups)? My only answer is that Xbox wanted to be different, and that in the past many sources say that Xbox players were more skilled than playstation players. To this day I figured that was the only reason, not for some tactical result or better stats. I know I didn't word this perfectly or provide some miraculous reason to side with the ps4 controller. It's just that symmetry, which is how the orientation of my hands happens to be, would coincide with a controller design.

[@apostolisp1820]

Finnally sony kills those companies with the attachment for ds4 and ds5 will finish em for good.

[@saucekilla2136]

Wish u guys covered evil controllers

[@75KUAKKU]

Hi. Is the Astro will be able to turn the Ps4 on?and any changes to the ps5? Thanks

[@SeasonedGaming]

Hello. No the Astro cannot turn on your PS4. And as of now, we expect the Astro to work without issue with the PS5 as well.

[@75KUAKKU]

Seasoned Gaming thanks. I guess I have to work overtime to buy the Astro 😓

[@Ryankam91]

Never used a modded controller myself, but i feel even as good as the nacon is i am not sure if i would be able to work with the buttons on the handle itself till i tried it. Been weighing my options and i was thinking an long paddle down the handle might be better but idk

[@bobbyboy4496]

Wanted to get pro unlimited but heard bad things about mic and problems with back buttons sticking

[@i-manic1292]

Seemed like the 50$ was the main selling point, what if you had a disposable income and wanted the best controller? Did you dive into to amount of customization in applications? Individual stick sensitivity for FPS games?

[@SeasonedGaming]

Our favorite controller from the 3 was the Nacon. While value played an important part we liked the feel and functionality overall the best from Nacon.

[@dodgydondbo1361]

What about xbox elite with the Brooks converter? I don't mind about losing the built in speaker and touchpad. Would you pick an elite instead of the nacon.

[@SeasonedGaming]

We’re actually doing a review of the Brooks converter next week on Weds. stay tuned.

[@mjk302]

Had the revolution for a year the left analog gave up after about 8months of use, after taking it about you can see it’s been poorly designed as you push forward on the left analog stick it will rub on the plastic mount for the triggers behind it.. so after a long term of use it will fail.

[@justinryan224]

I just recently purchased the astro c40 and just wanted to see how others felt about it... I really do enjoy it despite the $200 price tag.. I say if you have the $200 you won't be mad. If and I know this is a big "if" will determine if I buy a ps5 at launch. Please Sony don't do me dirty....

[@buttersidedown8006]

1) Scuf controllers don’t last. 2) Astro is very nice but is overpriced. 3) Nacon is cheaper, has good build quality and has insanely customizable software

[@SeasonedGaming]

Good summary!

[@jazfromyt]

How does the scuf vantage have more customization than the Astro c40???

[@jamming8519]

Sorry guys, you really need to put that mic in front of you. The way you have it set up here you sound like you're in the back of the room!