Seasonic Syncro Q704 Case - built for Seasonic Connect!

[@KitGuruTech]

TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 video start 00:13 introduction 01:33 let’s look at the Q704 - and the Peel! 02:52 the Double Peel! 03:36 let’s tear it down - case overview 06:49 the Connect integration 08:04 but have we seen this before? 11:00 the build and hardware 12:37 what it’s like to use? Noise test 13:33 thermal testing 14:48 and let’s talk pricing… 15:25 final thoughts

[@aliharper7705]

Sorry to be so offtopic but does someone know of a tool to log back into an instagram account..? I was stupid forgot the password. I would love any tips you can give me!

[@romanrandall2106]

@Ali Harper Instablaster =)

[@alphasixty1316]

Seasonic is aiming high and toward innovation here, I like it.

[@basshead.]

gimmick

[@xalderin3838]

@@basshead. You have A LOT of people who would pay for the Gimmick of not having to mess with they're wire management. So honestly, SeaSonic is actually being smart here. XD

[@basshead.]

@@xalderin3838 Yeah, but now they have to mess with that big box. That thing doesn't even fit in most PC cases.

[@xalderin3838]

@@basshead. While true, SeaSonic goes the extra Mile to provide the Case for it. And at that point, people choose between messing with a big box or a dozen plus wires. I highly doubt your average person is going to want to mess with wires at all, and would prefer a big box, which SeaSonic already provides an answer to. Hell, I'm still thinking about going this solution, because I hate wires, myself. XD The only thing I'm holding off on, is seeing what the final product looks like. And that's only because I'm going Custom Loop here, with external Water Cooling.

[@basshead.]

@@xalderin3838 We already have fully modular PSUs so people don't have to mess with wires.

[@monty6471]

I am exactly the market for this thing. I despise doing cable management almost as much as I despise case clutter and a difficult to clean PC. This provides solutions to all three, and even though its pricey, I can't wait to make it my Xmas present to myself.

[@qT_p13]

0:54 Leo pulls out his pokedex to check the entry - Syncro Q704 is a steel type pokemon. It masquerades as an average atx tower, but does everything upside down so as to stand out from the crowd.

[@vlad_8011]

Front filter removal makes me fell great MORE CASES WITH SIMILAR FEATURE PLEASE!

[@timalexander746]

Peel it like you mean it Leo!

[@grahamhurst6212]

Yup the GFX card logo and motherboard logo are both upside down but Leo's gripe is the black cables :)

[@jondonnelly4831]

He does mention the unpside down card.... "It looks wrong".

[@RukhWhitefang]

Okay, that case is actually really cool. Kudos to Seasonic for a well thought out first case.

[@blackmennewstyle]

Beautiful case and lovely digital assistant you've got yourself here Leo

[@KitGuruTech]

Leo here: I didn't mention in the video - but should have - that Seasonic includes a selection of EPS and PCIe cables in different lengths. They are all regular black rather than sleeved.

[@BlindGoose1]

Great review as always. I would love to see that AIO cooler at the front, tubes down, to see if that would improve the cooling of the cpu.

[@ostapkurtash6359]

AIO in front, exhaust fans on top, rear fan as intake. Would be interesting to see

[@ScrapMechanicLabs]

Why is it that when I buy a phone everyone tells me to put a plastic screen cover over the glass and when we get PCs TVs and other glass-covered things we need to peel the plastic off?

[@zwer54]

As you carry the phone around which increases the risk of scratches by 100.000% over something that's meant to stay in place and not to touch it directly

[@jeffreypaul9428]

They don't get the correct peel tension yet, you can tell it's their first case.

[@jnc97]

You've heard of Tech Jesus, now get ready for Tech Buda

[@KitGuruTech]

That name has already been assigned to Gordon from PC World.

[@jnc97]

@@KitGuruTech Gordon barely appears these days, it's time to pass the torch :D

[@jamesleicher]

i inverted my be quite 801 very happy with it.8x 140mm fans 3x 120mm on 360mm cooler in front i9 9900kf 57c

[@badmanbob3]

Great Job Leo! Thanks for the review.

[@snaz27]

Think I just found the case for my new build! 😉

[@patrickeberhard2525]

Great video as always. Case & psu combo looks interesting. Only thing keeping my head a bit dizzy is the gpu w/ logo bottoms up. Planning to build a new pc in the coming weeks and will consider this one. Hope Seasonic make their products available in germany soon. Their PSUs are mostly sold out or available only overpriced on amazon.

[@jamesleicher]

my be quite is inverted, more for practical purposes ,i switch off rgb on gpu. case sit in custom drawer for flight sim cockpit i wont see it

[@jamesleicher]

when i decide which gpu to goto lol

[@deolamitico]

I just love this case. Wish to one day have something like this

[@perdomot]

I think going from water cooling to air cooling might be interesting. If you only put 2 fans in the roof over the GPU, the air from the front would go farther and assist the CPU air cooler. Hope you do a follow up video trying this out as I really enjoyed it when you went over both cooling options in a previous video. Not everybody water cools their rigs despite what some reviewers might think.

[@katzicael]

OMG i can hear those front fans from New Zealand just looking at the mounting design from 2005... The howling, oh my god...

[@merwinpique]

The most long peel off I have ever seen 😂This case looks promising. I can't wait when the fractal meshify 2 will be in stock. I am in love with that case. Keep up the great work.

[@aureliandumitru8382]

Same here, owner of 2 Fractal cases so far but I am waiting for Meshify 2. Imo best case! 💪

[@merwinpique]

@@aureliandumitru8382 Received mine yesterday. The case is amazing.

[@hoppyrabbit1833]

As usual, a great case review by Leo, but it would take me a long time to get used to upside down labels on the mb.

[@tomasberglund186]

Love that case^^

[@dwaynestimpson5449]

I like it. I love Seasonic and refuse to use any other power supply, thanks to KitGuru's website review back in 2012 I think, maybe 2013. The X Series 650 was my first and I have never looked back. Still have that PSU in my Hackintosh PC, also have a 750. I want this case.....badly. I have ideas and I can make my own sleeved cables! So Leo, get Seasonic to send me one please. 😜

[@JLisk-jg8dq]

Silverstone used to been the place to go for inverted motherboard cases, but they don't have any good ones for ATX. Shame they couldn't come out with one sooner.

[@QuentinStephens]

Thank you. Would you say that this is a case aimed more at commercial builders than home consumers? I did notice that you mounted the AIO CPU cooler in the top - would putting it in the front have made a difference? Not only in temperatures but also in looks, perhaps covering up those cables you highlighted. If you do a follow-up, perhaps you could look at the performance of Nvidia's new cooler on the RTX 30 series cards in the case.

[@KitGuruTech]

System Integrators tend to avoid expensive cases - if you can find an SI that uses Seasonic power supplies then I guess they would be a candidate for Syncro.

[@khmergodhobbies]

Leo loves the peel.

[@rebeccaschade3987]

Would it be possible to fit a flat reservoir where the connect-module is supposed to go? Sure, it would make routing the cables more fiddly, but it might make for a cool looking setup.

[@Arashmickey]

I was thinking of passing sleeved cables through there, but yeah a reservoir is an even better idea.

[@jesternangel]

good one leo...this is why i watch you really know what you are doing sir....thumbz up leo..

[@tomquimby8669]

The fan noise is totally acceptable if you love noisy work environments where you can wear ear protectors.

[@ryannix2606]

I think that if you reverse the airflow of the top fans so that they are intake rather than exhaust you could get better temps for the CPU and the GPU. Put the AIO on the front, so that the GPU can get all the fresh air that it needs.

[@Arashmickey]

Nice build. Asrock's high-end b550s are so nice, especially the dark blue on the Extreme4. Sleeved cables aren't that expensive, especially if you're building something that requires a 750 Watt PSU. You can get decent extensions for maybe 30-35 Pounds? Still better than flat licorice cables if you ask me. If you decide not to use the synchro you can route the sleeved cables to pass in front of the little window in the back panel :) Also, do I see a slightly deeper tray for the top panel dust filter? I'd like that, but it doesn't show on the prototype and it's hard to see whether it's there on the new version.

[@ramrod126]

Due to my room layout my case has to go to the left of my desk making inverted atx a must. I've been using a Corsair 600c for several years now. It is nice to see another option.

[@jonathanellis6097]

I get the feeling its meant to be an air cooling case, a big air cooler on the CPU and no fans in the roof I would guess would be a good setup for it. Or even moving some of the intake fans to the roof would be interesting as it is filtered, would make for some interesting thermal testing.

[@jondonnelly4831]

Great review, he's covered it all. I'd like a stronger PSU option. I think it maxes out at 850w.

[@chrissartain4430]

This is a "Kick-Ass Case" Any way you look at it! $230 American is on Target! Its Specially marked consumer Maybe? But I am buying one today because I have just seen it for the first time!! Seasonic sent you Not One but TWO, Cut Them Some Slack............ Already!

[@Asenni]

Cheers Leo, great vid. It's an interesting idea and quite a good execution for a first foray into cases, particularly compared to case firsts from hardware companies that should know better and case company veterans that really should know better. I've been waiting to see if something would be done with the Connect, I really like the concept though aesthetically in this iteration isn't as appealing. I'd be interested to see if the fella at GGF Events (sorry can't recall name right now) does a build with custom cables and water cooling, might show it in an ever more fairer light. Also, never really been sold on the inverted motherboard, but all in all, its a decent looking case, hope they manage to sell some to encourage them to do a revisit and/or evolve the idea.

[@kodaxmax]

you can always tell a company cares about the product when it has a decent door/ hinge design and pack an extra clamp just to keep it safe in shipping.

[@reistje]

I liked the Seasonic connect, but I'm not a big fan off the Q704. I don't really like the case and the device doesn't seem to add a lot, I actually think cable management would look better without it.

[@Arashmickey]

Peel Guide: Seasonic's Peel uses a tough high quality plastic covering both sides of the side panel window. Caution: peel necessitates applying strong steady force to effect smooth and appealing peel. Remove transportation clamp before peeling. Recommend peeling after building. Peel time: ~20 seconds per peel.

[@KitGuruTech]

Would you believe, you can also install PC hardware inside the case! double win

[@Arashmickey]

@@KitGuruTech ​ @KitGuruTech Imagine my surprise of finding another 12 minutes of review after the peel :D

[@michaelwhitaker1972]

I absolutely hate inverted MB's, but I do kind of like the look of the case. So, if they would make a version of this case that was the normal case layout, I would be more interested in that.

[@walksonpoo]

I just paid $143 for this whole bundle, and even had a $35 mail in rebate for it too :)

[@konepolska]

Gosh... what a case i just wish i could install my own PSU in it like the EVGA T2 for example...

[@user-jy3px8to9z]

Curious to see how thermals will be affected if you mount the AIO radiator to the front of the case (as exhaust) and use the top as intake (feeding fresh air to the GPU. With current setup you have two opposing airflows very close to each other

[@slacr9241]

Good review. Looking for a nice case , liking this. Have an RM1000x with cable kit, can i use that? Pretty long psu. (don't fancy buying a new psu). But love the inverted style. Loved watching and hear your honest review. like always.

[@ItssMitch]

Great video, do you think you could review some matx cases?

[@AxR558]

As much as I like the case (although I'd prefer it to not be inverted) I can't help but think that the connect itself is a solution looking for a problem, and this version of the connect module is restricted to this case only due to the front facing connectors needing cutouts. Also, could they not have just put the PSU connector on the other end of the connect unit and had this case as a normal motherboard orientation? I get the idea behind the intel 12vatx standard and only needing to run one cable from the PSU to the motherboard but effectively splitting a PSU into two units that need space for them seems a bit of a strange step as the only cables that are really much shorter seem to be the 24pin and PCIe supplemental power. Finally, the price... It's a nice case but to pay almost twice as much as another decent case and PSU for this would make a straight up non starter for me.

[@The1PatSmith]

Thank you, Leo. That's a lot of ackers to spend to view a PC build 'upside down'! I don't like it, it doesn't 'oil my wheels', and certainly does not seem to represent any good value for the promulgated price, which equates some $750 Kiwi $. I think I'll stick with the versatility of my beloved Eclipse P600S. Thanks once again, stay well to you and your followers. Cheers, - Pat.

[@collinbuckley3356]

really like this case by seasonic do you recommend it ? also whats the best fan setup?

[@rafaelchande86]

Currently put a new build in this case but am lost, how did you lower the fan speed. I would like to lower their rpms.

[@tonyprano3992]

I want this case for a custom water cooled build. When will they be available in the US?

[@EJSmith-dk3yg]

It's very clear ... DON'T USE an AIO, (nor a custom loop) ! Test the temp w/ an air cpu cooler. Here are two good choices; Be Quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 Noctua - NH-D15 Then see how the front fans perform.

[@dy1837]

it would be more realistic to use the cpu cooler as an intake. that way the gpu can release air upwards.

[@georgemorley1029]

Nidec fans...this is now my lottery case. I want this.

[@NoLuv4Hoz]

Fine review. I can't get past the upside down mounting, cheap-looking gpu cable, and high price. But, as they say, "If you like it, I love it!"

[@AnhPham-kg8kf]

It would be better with a little more light. The case is black, the same for motherboard, cables, etc. It’s incrediblely hard to see the interior.

[@danhough242]

Be interesting to see what a verticle GPU would look like

[@Banner1986]

I wants it. I needz it. Its absolutely beautiful. If they make a chassis with 8 externally accessible drive bays, I'll absolutely lose my mind (please do, I'm tired of Silverstone already)

[@xalderin3838]

So with the Price, you're looking at Half for the Case, and Half for the PSU, at this point. That's what I'm looking at. So at that point, the Price looks fine. But at the same time, that's a mighty expensive PSU and Case Combo. XD Thanks for the Vid! Have a Sub and Like.

[@konepolska]

Can i use any PSU on that case? Will T2 1600 EVGA fit there?

[@MarcParisTV]

Star of the show : Nidec Gentle Typhoon AP60 PWM with black wires..:D

[@georgemorley1029]

I am really keen on Nidec fans.

[@TheLastDay-BobReese]

Thanks for the report but this box doesn't stand a chance without water and rigid pipes...Lian, Fractal & Phanteks smash it to bits... All $240 US dollars buys you is 4 noisy obnoxious fans and a connect hub.

[@caml1720]

they did say remove first, to be fair

[@captainc1152]

yeah.......... dont like the upside down factor - motherboards silkscreened and branded to be viewed left to right - same for gpu - only good feature is cutout for distribution hub which could be placed at rear in conventional case - would get dual chamber case before this

[@Berserkism]

It took me until 4 mins in to realize, even though I read the title, even though you said it, that this was Seasonic and not Silverstone. Ah yes, another Silverstone case....oh right.

[@gvnady8380]

A very unusual inverted pc case

[@frijin490]

It's not bad pricing since connect itself costs around 175 euros.

[@waitandhope]

Very interesting design maybe in am5

[@Melajo]

I want an army of Daleks voiced by Leo

[@Kaymen1980]

Very interesting case.. Too bad the glass is on the _right_ side.

[@Magnisus]

I want this. Its so nice and unusual :D

[@malphadour]

Can we have an F for Leo's peel.....

[@Oblivianos]

give him an S for the disassembly though. he was like this comes off that goes away with like closed eyes perfect times :P

[@boce100883]

Glados??

[@Kaygoooo]

Let's make proper custom LC in it.

[@BobRooney290]

its open on the wrong side. its that a btx case, or atx with upside down motherboard? thats no good...the cpu heat will always hit the already ultra super heated graphics card and other cards. and no drive bays for optical drives. thats a deal breaker. where am i supposed to put my bdxl burner and bluray player?

[@billwiley7216]

Very few current builds include optical drives anymore so that does not affect most people considering this case. Actually I think the heat off the CPU hitting the graphics card is less of a problem than the heat generated by current top GPU's hitting the CPU in a conventional MB layout. Basically the price point and it less optimal overall cooling as compared to other leading manufacturer case offerings with more features at a much lesser price point is more of the issue. I like the concept of the power supply distribution with shorter cables but right now it does not seem ready for prime time from a performance or being at a competitive price point as compared to other options. With some GPU's now requiring 3 separate power connectors I can see the distribution box cable option possibly becoming more popular in the future. I do like the quality of Seasonic power supplies and they are all I have used for the last 20 years.

[@guiguipau]

Connect is such a good idea, don't know why they limit it to 750 gold...

[@KitGuruTech]

There are three Connects and the max is 850W Platinum

[@guiguipau]

Oh nice, I was unaware that the one you showed wasn't just the refresh replacement for the original connect. That being said, I just got a Prime TX 700 fanless that will exactly fit my priorities (silence at any cost) but is currently sadly sitting here waiting, because you know, CPU and GPU availability :(

[@ggzii]

I Always think what would steve from gamers nexus say about airflow lol

[@CraigLillie]

Sorry, but I don't see ANYTHING wrong with the power cables. They fit, they carry power, and custom cable makers will probably jump in with cables for this power supply somewhat soon anyway. As for the air flow, it might have been better with a 240 MM rad perhaps, the first fan on the 360 is rather close to the front fans. 😻

[@jamesroggy1546]

The sarky digitize voice of LMAO yer Leo rules.

[@larryboles629]

I know I can not afford the case already! Come on bro only the real high dollar cases has the prestige of a SECOND PEEL!~

[@CalgarGTX]

For me the main point of reverted ATX is the GPU exhausting hot air towards the top, following the laws of physics, instead of spilling hot air everywhere inside the case and messing up every other airflow going on. Ofc that implies you have a GPU with fans exhausting air instead of pushing it in the GPU fins... which it turns out mine does 🤡 Also I don't know why but the fans that came with mine are terribly noisy even tho every single reviews says they are supposedly good ones. Terrible grating jet engine noise at any % PWM and oscillations even at 12% PWM, really no way to shut them up. I'm in the process of swapping them for 140mm noctuas.

[@himanologanor4093]

sounds logical... like if the videocard designers made it to work one way let`s see if it works upsidedown...a 3090 rtx Founders Edition will be happy to push hot air down for once

[@theforge4591]

beutiful case

[@brianlove3369]

Need fans in the bottom like the old silver-stone had

[@datdudeinred]

Is it me or that robot sounded alot like claptrap from borderlands?😂

[@Daxter250]

i really like the filters. they remind me of the meshify s2 filters. but why the heck did seasonic obstruct the front airflow with this HUGE shield there? totally unneccessary! edit: over 300 bucks! fucking hell! for that money i would buy myself the silverstone mammoth!

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

Those fans are around $20 a pop. plus the psu and connect.

[@Daxter250]

@@sarfaraz.hosseini my fractal fans also cost 15 bucks, yet my case with 3 pre installed fans didnt cost more than 110 bucks.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

@@Daxter250 I'm with you, I think it's a lot of money to ask for a case, and not loving the restrictive airflow, but I can see where the money is going: Those 4 fans are $80, that PSU with the connect is $170, the case is custom built, not off-the-shelf, so needed new tooling for a low volume run, and it's solidly built.

[@Daxter250]

@@sarfaraz.hosseini i got my seasonic 650w platin for just 100 euros... i just dont see a reason to buy that case. it suck in airflow, it has that weird motherboard angle, i dont need that PSU extention thing and for 20 bucks per fan i would buy myself noctua fans. i simply expect more from seasonic. its one of the best PSU manufacturers after all ^^.

[@Brahma-Astra]

Seasonic got forced to produce a case to push the seasonic connect sale....awkward psu with a separate unnecessary connect module which no one should buy............

[@captainc1152]

agreed

[@QactisX]

You know Leo if you had your wife do the unwrapping you could call her Mrs Peel and then you'd be John Steed

[@digitalinversion9500]

everything seemed fine until the price droped my jaw to the floor

[@alphasixty1316]

About what I expected considering the included power supply.

[@ShneekeyTheLost]

Keep in mind that includes a new model 12V PSU with the connect module being the converter rather doing the conversions in the PSU. They don't have economics of scale on production for those yet since it is a new form factor of PSU which is (supposedly) more energy efficient. The actual case price itself without the PSU and connect module is much closer to competitors.

[@WOLFPARANORMALUK]

personally dont like the inverted motherboard - awful. Great showcase video as always though

[@7zerozerozero]

That´s exactly what I was thinking Mister, this case wants a liquid cooled GPU.

[@xGaLoSx]

Normal cases have less cables visible. I don't see the point to this.

[@Ayane13b]

I wouldn't say less visible cables. Also, because everything is centralized, it makes all cable runs look more sorted, as apposed to cables coming from everywhere in the case. I'm willing to bet that this could potentially be the first case that I would want the option of having a tempered glass back panel, as well as a front panel. Obviously this case isn't for everyone. If you don't see the appeal of it, it's not made for you. But there's a good amount of people that want exactly what this offers, me being one of them (clearly)

[@stevewatson6839]

Seasonic Connect - a solution looking for a problem.

[@jeantechnoir7702]

Yeah, I don't like, exterior looks seems simplistic to me, front airflow seems not ideal for a fully air cooled built and finally I really hate the inverted mobo thing.

[@christopherwood2290]

Everything looks ridiculous upside down.

[@zaust74]

yeah lets just never do the robot voice again k?

[@ctopedja]

Whats up with the gloves? everyone who reviewed this case had to use gloves....lol

[@KitGuruTech]

As stated in the video, the case is supplied with gloves and the front panel in particular attracts fingerprints. Cleaning down each time you move a product is a complete pain so... gloves

[@raizyraiton]

The way you touched the glass its really annoying.

[@Genesisfury]

You only grabbed a tiny bit of the panel film, resulting in tearing that piece off. Amateur peeling technique, Leo.

[@KitGuruTech]

This was the Peel of Uncertainty. We may yet have time in 2020 for The Peel of Disaster.

[@FinnRenard]

Please stop peeling. It's hasn't been fun since the iPhone 1.

[@KarolAltus]

Very very lound.