Seagull St36: Unitas 6498 Clone Watch Movement Disassembly & Assembly

[@dibs6579]

Thank you for this just saved my genuine eta 6497. Almost broke it. Bless you 😂😂

[@tickingWATCH]

Thank You, you are welcome 😀

[@rbmwiv]

Thanks again for a great video I’m watching this instead of a movie I was watching.

[@tickingWATCH]

I'm really glad that you like it 😀

[@marekeos]

One of the BEST watch rebuild vids I've seen. The quality of zooming, detail and lighting is excellent. The music is a cherry on the cake. I hope my vids come out half as good. Thank you for this. I know how much work this takes.

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks, I really appreciate it and good luck 👍

[@marekeos]

@@tickingWATCH Dopiero teraz sie zorientowalem ze Pan jest Polakiem!! Wspaniale wideo. Proboje znalesc druga melodie. Jest piekna i naprawde tutaj pasuje.

[@tickingWATCH]

@@marekeos Dziękuję serdecznie. Melodyjka jest z KZbin Audio Library - The Hardest Part - Jeremy Blake. Można wykorzystywać za free do filmów na KZbin

[@marekeos]

@@tickingWATCH Wieklie dzieki! Masz swietny kanal. Pozdrawiam z Kanady!

[@fatheroffive2657]

Thanks for posting It’s very fitting as I just received a 6497 clone watch last night for Christmas Merry Christmas Hello from Calgary

[@tickingWATCH]

Also thanks 👍 and happy New Year from Opole 😀

[@MrFsandt]

Olá. Uma pequena correção. O movimento do vídeo é um Hangzhou 9310, clone do clone do ETA 6497/98. Os movimentos Seagull série ST-36...usam dispositivos anti choque "Incabloc", são decorados e não possuem o rubi sintético em uma das extremidades do eixo do tambor da mola principal. Os Hangzhou 9310 tem acabamento mais espartano, usam os dispositivos anti-choque baseado nos antigos "diashock" da Seiko e possuem um rubi sintético numa das extremidades do eixo do tambor da mola principal (vantagem sobre o Seagull). Saudações e sucesso sempre.

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks for your opinion I'm pretty sure that many KZbin watcher will benefit 👍

[@glenh4971]

I am planning on buying that Parnis watch myself. The 6497 movement is popular for anyone who wants to try servicing a watch movement for the first time. Thanx for sharing.

[@KHGuitarFreak1988]

Bought one. Can't complain really for what you are paying for

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks, I really appreciate it and these clones are doing its job

[@meaninthemirror]

Glad to see someone use proper amount of lubrication instead atomic scale.

[@tickingWATCH]

Greetings Terra Nova and thank you, I really appreciate your comment.

[@mycaI_]

Thanks for this video. All the other guides only show the breakdown, So its a little overwhelming for a first timer lol

[@tickingWATCH]

The pleasure is mine Mycal!

[@LikeAPetrol]

A piece of magic, Sebastian. Got the same 6498 replica movement (ST36, if Aliexpress seller doesn't lie), so it was interesting to have a look under the hood. Thanks for vid!

[@tickingWATCH]

You're welcome LikeAPetrol

[@ValentechTime]

Great video quality, nice zooming and content! Happy Holidays!

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks, I really appreciate it

[@deriismayandi]

thanks for sharing, great presentation, and very informative.

[@tickingWATCH]

You're welcome @deriismayandi1985 😀

[@vernacularMD]

Wow! What a beautifully shot video. Thank you.

[@tickingWATCH]

You're welcome Bryan Weckel 😀

[@jims4539]

Thanks for the video, best wishes for the New Year.

[@tickingWATCH]

I'm really glad that you like it. Thanks and also best wishes to you 👍

[@erickm6134]

That is awesome!!!! And a world of patience 👍

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks 👍

[@breaktime3269]

Nice review, thank you. Happy Christmas

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks and also Happy Christmas to you 😀

[@ajotech]

Excellent video wow!

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks, I really appreciate it 😀

[@gioviredigonda2887]

Really beautiful video !

[@tickingWATCH]

I'm really glad that you like it

[@olivierdradin8142]

grand merci pour cette vidéo très claire

[@tickingWATCH]

le plaisir est pour moi 😀

[@Garpeinv]

This is beautiful!! nice work, love it!

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks, I really appreciate it 😀

[@anatolydyatlov4103]

Great video but i am here after a disaster. I have a replica pam111 which i love wearing it a lot. Today it came off because of a lose pin in strap and fell of the ground. It was not really high nor was it a big impact. When i took the watch i noticed it was not working anymore😢 i winded it, checked again but it didnt work. There seems no broken part in the mechanism but some wheels may have been dissambled. I dont know what to do. I feel like someone who lost a very close friend of his. 😢

[@tickingWATCH]

I understand it, i not a nice situation and had similar, but I think a watchmaker service may help and bring back to live your watch

[@adamw7411]

@@tickingWATCHcould you make video with pt5000 movement?

[@javijavi1142]

thanks for the video!

[@tickingWATCH]

You are welcome 😀

[@dodgydruid]

Not the only one putting up watch videos on this day of days hehe Thought I would showcase my Trafalgar Jump Hour from the 70's and an ancient 17 jewels Ingersoll which I brought back from the dead last nite and is working beautifully :) Got some Slava tanks incoming, a quartz to replace my recently deceased one and a forest green dialled auto, best Xmas pressies ever is a pair of Slava tanks in book :D

[@tickingWATCH]

👍

[@ackhanna1]

Hi...nice., but miss your comments while doing the work... they are very insightful

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks 😀 this one is more to relax 👍 therefore no comments

[@a.v4650]

Few questions here regarding the tools, if you can help: 1. What chemicals are you using to clean? 2. What oils/lubricants are you using? 3. Do you perhaps have a link to where I might be able to purchase them along with the applicator tools? Regards, Alex

[@tickingWATCH]

Answers below: 1. extraction gasoline is very good, but you can also buy dedicated products 2. Moebius, Novastar or others 3. eBay Amazon Aliexpress see links in the description below the video

[@a.v4650]

Thank you :) @@tickingWATCH

[@Mir1189]

Hi. This is most likely not Seagull ST36 but Hangzhou 9011. Screws under balance wheels are not blue but silver, Seagull usually has those blue as well. Minutewheel has 5 holes, there are diashock antishock springs and most importantly there is 18th jewel in the front :D - the one under ratchetwheel, mostly visible from the front.

[@tickingWATCH]

Could be this is not ST36 but some other manufacturer, there are so many of them that are doing ETA clones. Thank you for your comment.

[@Mir1189]

@@tickingWATCH I recently purchased a pocket watch (Olympia 35030) with Chinese movement. It happened to me in the past that the watchmaker refused to repair similar movement, because the parts are not always compatible. So I started to dig the info, so I could tell apart Unitas from Seagull and Hangzhou. Hangzhou always has additional ruby/jewel under the dial, on ratchet wheel, manufacturer sells it as Hangzhou 9011A. Unfortunately, manufacturer does not specified lift angle on his web page. The one in your video and the one in my pocket watch are the same movements, and thanks to your videos I know its a pretty decent watch.

[@tickingWATCH]

@@Mir1189 nice to read that, good luck with your timepiece

[@IGS1989]

I think there are 19 jewels in this watch. There are 3 jewels in the center of the movement -- one in each bridge (that's 17 in total) plus one in the plate below (seen when the cannon pinion is pressed in). The 19th ruby, as you mentioned, is in the plate below the barrel.

[@gabrielcornea9119]

great video, but I wonder why did you take out the balance wheel capsule so early and let it without the capsule while it's moving and why are you oiling so much basically everywhere? Thank you in advance

[@tickingWATCH]

I'm really glad that you like it. About the balance wheel it is like I'm doing, you can make it later. Oiling should be only there where are moving parts.

[@ntsims01]

Thank you for the great video! I am a beginner and want to start cleaning and oiling watches. I do not have cleaning machines. I think using degreaser or acetone and a brush would work instead. But I am concerned about using a brush on the balance spring. What do you suggest?

[@tickingWATCH]

Definitely do not use a brush to the hair spring, especially in very old watches I have a bad experience with that. I don't even clean the balance in an ultra sonic cleaner. Eventually when you must have a very very soft one. I personally use only extraction gasoline, very clean. Should be in every hardware shop 👍

[@RajSingh-xo3sp]

Hi Sebastian, very nice very clear video. Thanks. Can you tell me from where I can buy gear cutting wheels for the gear train. I want to use my lathe to cut the wheels using milling attachment. Thanks again.

[@tickingWATCH]

Never eas looking for this type of tools. For so small wheels probably you need to ask by some shops with this kind of equipment, normally to buy those is rather hard. If you will find something write 👍

[@DEWAGE83]

Why would you take out the cap jewel before you took the balance off the watch? Ive never seen it done that way. I dont see an issue but I'm curious as I've never seen it done that way.

[@tickingWATCH]

To clean the jewel and than oil and also safer to balance staff pivot 😀

[@stevehuffman7453]

Does it run more accurately after servicing? (Was it lubed properly by the factory when made?) Rather surprising the plates, bridges, and balance arm were not scroll engraved during manufacture to make it look like a higher end movement. The sub $20 Chinese skeleton pocket watches are scroll engraved. Surely it does not add much to the cost of making the movement. (I think those pocket warches wiseawrist watch movement with an over-size dial.Te movement requires a 5 plus mm plastic spacer to "fit" (note quotes) in the pocket watch case. Are Seagull movements any good/long lasting?

[@tickingWATCH]

This are quite accurate and it was lubricated before

[@diegoportentoso5507]

Que te parece la calidad del movimiento con respecto al original en cuanto a funcionalidad y materiales? Gracias!!!!

[@tickingWATCH]

Works properly and is accurate, I don't know anything about durability because I don't wear them every day 😀

[@Aquanaut73]

Hello, i was wondering if the bridges on the Seagull can be assembled on an ETA 6498? Are they swappable ?

[@tickingWATCH]

No idea but I don't think so ...

[@chiroberts]

Is this video in a mirror image? Its the opposite of the one I’m trying to assemble

[@tickingWATCH]

This movements are actually all the same, so no problem to service them 😀

[@fabriziodutto7508]

Thank you for the beautiful video, just one question: usually the pallet fork pivot is not oiled (I don't understand why, but some watchmaker said it has a bad impact on the amplitude), is there a reason why you did @13:43? I mean this movement requires the pallet fork pivot/jewel to be oiled? Thank you for the beautiful video.

[@tickingWATCH]

I'm really glad that you like it 😀. In general, you don't have to oil it because the force there is so small that oiling doesn't change anything and so it is written in watchmakers books but on the other hand, I saw in service manual from Seiko 7009A and also Miyota that you have to oil there (Moebius A extremely small). It seems that in Japan they have or another philosophy or the construction of its movements is different. My personal conclusion - lets oil but extremely small and rather avoid oiling in wristwatches movements with small pelets.

[@fabriziodutto7508]

@@tickingWATCH Thank you so much for your kind reply! I always asked myself why they usually say to oil only the exit pallet. In your experience, no issue on the amplitude od the escapement wheel whatsoever, by oiling it?

[@tickingWATCH]

With pallet is a similar situation. Ideally, is to oil exit pallet and after several ticks oil it again.

[@JungleBXU]

Can I use an alcohol or w40 to clean parts?

[@tickingWATCH]

Definitely not WD40, alcohol yes but except pellet fork and balance wheel, because there is shellac which will dissolve in alcohol.

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

What a pity that there is no Chinese clone for the Unitas 445 movement. So many old pocket watches could be brought back to life.🧐

[@tickingWATCH]

Haha, maybe some day there will be 😀

[@artemdmytrenko6992]

Any recommendation on which oils to use for this movement?

[@tickingWATCH]

Novastar or moebius are great

[@goodlifebdg]

How to take crown out ? No button to pin

[@tickingWATCH]

you need to unscrew the small screw on the bottom of the screen that is not blue

[@goodlifebdg]

@@tickingWATCH thanks !

[@SqiroS22]

Just subscribed. Excellent as a tutorial excellent as a relaxing session.... wonderful. Thanks for sharing. I love this movement type and I have one with 6 o'clock subseconds. Mine works ok and keeps good time for three years now but when i wind it I hear a "click-slipping" sound which is very frustrating. Unfortunately I am no watchmaker... I KNOW what seems easy in the video is difficult in reality. Any idea about the problem? Maybe faulty winding pinion...I heard it's common on this movement. Seems like this one here is ok! Any advice is much appreciated. The least i could do is to subscribe.

[@tickingWATCH]

I'm really glad that you like it 👍 On the solution of your problem could be using a washer under the screw that is holding the crown wheel, the goal is to reduce play but not to block it, so the washer has to be very, very thin. May help. The second solution would be to buy a new winding pinion you can find it on eBay or Aliexpress and just replace it 😀

[@SqiroS22]

@@tickingWATCH Thanks a lot for your time to reply. First solution seems to be the deal... but more difficult. Winding pinion replacement is irrelevant to the first solution though? On my not so trained brain anyway 😂. If possible I would ask a professional in real person too...for an option since I m no pro. Also a price for a general lubrication of it..new or used movement. Thanks a tone

[@tickingWATCH]

@@SqiroS22 You can go into both options and new movements cost about 35$, check the description below. What I doing is buying new movements and then cleaning plus lubrication. In most cases helps to use them for 5 years without any problems

[@SqiroS22]

@@tickingWATCH Thanks for your help!!! I may buy straight from seagull for better QC and also ask for opinions. Thanks again!!!

[@SqiroS22]

@@tickingWATCH I would also like to ask, a movement like this would be something that you could sell? Are you a pro watchmaker in your country? If so let me know, or having any page on the net. What would you consider a logical price for a service like this to a fairly new movement? Many thanks and kind regards 😊

[@dodgydruid]

I was watching a vid on the soon to come out Phylida "tin tin" mechanical chronograph and saw on Ali the movements are only £58 which for a Venus 175 clone or rather not a clone as Seagull bought Venus's actual production machines, I reckon I could given time build up an excellent mechanical chronograph then saw the Sekonda 3017 is built on a Venus 150 and was thinking.... hmmm I got a Sekonda 3017 dial, would it fit the ST19 I am wondering... then I can have the watch I want but without the £1000 price tag the sellers want for the Sekonda 3017s. BTW wishing happy new year and keep up the excellent work, this old 'un here is learning loads from your videos :D

[@staszeksowikowski9039]

That could probably be done but keep in mind that almost all of the dials for strelas, poljots and sekondas we see on ebay are also chinese. Original hands too are very hard to get. I had a very similar plan, but i gave it up as I know I would never be satisfied with an unoriginal watch. To cut a long story short I ended up getting a poljot 3017 with a beautifully aged dial for christmas from my family. The watch is just amazing and I am kind of reluctant to service it because its so nice .

[@tickingWATCH]

No idea theoretically should buy if you check it let us know 😀

[@antonescas2304]

Hello, how it is called the "thing" in wich you put the movement to work with it, I am beginning in this world an I would like to buy one. Nice video :)

[@tickingWATCH]

Ooo, welcome in the watch world 😀. It is a movement holder and also a useful movement cushion. Links in the description down below will bring you to the sides where I bought them.

[@antonescas2304]

@@tickingWATCH thaaaaank you very very much

[@adamw7411]

The video without music is better

[@tickingWATCH]

Thank you, appreciate your comment. Is always a little bit less work 😀

[@staszeksowikowski9039]

Fajnie chodzi. Trafi do jakiegoś zegarka? Ostatnio słyszałem że nie należy smarować kamieni pod kotwicę bo to zmniejsza amplitudę. Spróbowałem bez smarowania i chyba faktycznie coś w tym jest:)

[@tickingWATCH]

Dzięki, na pewno będzie montowany. Z tym smarowanie czopów kotwicy to raczej się nie smaruje ponieważ opory są tak małe, że i tak niewiele to daje 😀

[@melody3741]

Lunrication is optional, it reduces amplitude but so does most of the oil

[@bryanvetor4529]

I’m a beginner and have a very hard time getting the wheels to line up properly in the train as well as getting the balance wheel to work properly. Any ideas or tricks? I see you are touch the tops of the bridge to get movement out of the wheels.

[@tickingWATCH]

Hi, that one of the most difficult thing about watch service. Advice is practice, practice, practice. Be delicate here, you need to push a little bit the top bridge and then aligned the pivots with the jewels starting in most cases from the 2nd wheel. Remember to practice.

[@bryanvetor4529]

@@tickingWATCH thank you for the advice. I purchased an extra 6497 (ST3600) for the sole purpose of breaking it apart and learning how it goes back together. Thank you for the inspiration! I will continue to practice! I find that this, or the balance wheel and pallet fork will be the hardest task.... Thanks! Amazing video!

[@tickingWATCH]

@Bryan Vetor You're welcome

[@Leomroy]

Nice Video, is the Unitas 6498 durable? Suitable for taking apart and putting back together again suitable for beginners?

[@tickingWATCH]

*Hi, thanks!* This model is definitely suitable for beginners if you would like to tray on your own. Is it durable hard to say I have one for 5 years and works good but for a mechanical movement 5 years is nothing, I have a watch 100 years old and they also do very well 😀

[@Leomroy]

Would a Vostok 2414 handwinding movement also be suitable for beginners? In terms of price, it is like the Unita Clone

[@tickingWATCH]

@@Leomroy this one is smaller but anyway possible to service as a beginner start with few old pices. For 30$ on ebay elsewhere you can buy some to practice

[@Leomroy]

Thanks for your fast Answers. The Unitas would be bigger than the Vostok 2414? I find Unitas clone for 25euros.

[@tickingWATCH]

@UCUmn%F0%9F%91%8DX4vNAk1xDzsKE5Mj8Zw Unitas has 36mm and 2414 - 24mm, on my channel you will also find videos about servicing Vostok 2414

[@bronsontan3172]

What if one of the tiny screw are stripped. How do I remove it?

[@tickingWATCH]

AAA is not so easy, but there are special tools for that. Once it happened to me I was able to remove it with a very small screwdriver but took me quite a lot of time.

[@bronsontan3172]

@@tickingWATCH alright. Thank you 👍

[@bronsontan3172]

@@tickingWATCH at 2:49 - 2:51 , do u use the same screwdriver or what size do u use. My screw driver can’t fit into that particular small screw head.

[@tickingWATCH]

@@bronsontan3172 it has 1.4mm and I recommend you to buy a whole set of 5 screwdrivers between 0.8-1.6mm, links are in the description down below.

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

You oiled your pallet fork jewel?

[@tickingWATCH]

Yes, input jewel

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

@@tickingWATCH @ 13:43 you oiled the pivot of the pallet fork.

[@namor637]

You left out the ratchet wheel click!

[@tickingWATCH]

Thanks for your advice I really appreciate it

[@tickingWATCH]

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[@romamgarciabaron746]

No es inotas no lleva sello es clon no

[@tickingWATCH]

Yes this is a clone like in the title 👍