"Second-Rate Defender!" Paul Scholes & Adam McKola Debate Over De Ligt! | The Overlap

[@pranjalchoudhary5387]

All these pundits avoid the rashford question.

[@sechabatheletsane9784]

BRUH!! FACTS!! They'll probably say it's ETH fault Rashford isn't putting in the effort

[@tantan-pd9si]

Rashford should be let go . As a forward /winger he is not clinical & not scoring enough . He is paid $300,000 or more a week 😮

[@rankinbazu7054]

​@tantan-pd9si He is selfish, too.

[@rana1561]

I am shocked how many wrong things Scholes said. I mean not opinion, just wrong facts, about de Ligt's play time and Dier playing in front of him(the Bayern fans were crying about that stupidity from Tuchel), Scholes isn't even informed correctly about why De Ligt left Juventus, and it's not even ten hag who shortlisted De lIgt, it's Christopher Vivell and Ashworth, about Hojlund, Ivan Tony is full of hot air, and almost at the end of that prime, if we buy him now, he'll ask for big wage and will get too settled and relaxed, unlike a young player who'd want to prove his worth, him under estimating the importance of an actual office existing in the club for the first time since the world moved ahead with backroom staff years ago. I bet it feels like no body even told Scholes about the financial constraint the contracts given by Woodward-Murtough-Arnold have left the club in. Our situation finance and squad wise is worse than when Fergie first arrived, forget about the David Gill era of rich Man United functioning. Look at that slimy Carragher nodding when Scholes was misunderstanding Zirkzee as not a good scorer when he clearly knows Zrikzee is a facilitator central attacker like his own Firmino who will not score a lot but is there to link the attack, slimeball. Come on Scholes, update yourself before you turn into a Souness variant. What's worse, Mckola not even correcting him enough.

[@georgejohnking]

And breathe

[@rana1561]

@@georgejohnking hahaha I know, but I'm seriously concerned, not long before Scholes starts asking where Pogba is

[@Pad13]

Zirkzee is gonna be fire. He’ll bring the best out of our wide forwards… who love to run in behind… and never look to play in their 9 anyways. Just wondering what that means for Bruno. I think he needs to drop back a bit and play an 8… which would help fill our midfield hole. Last season we seemed to be left with a single man in midfield on the counter. It’s time to look at a proper midfield 3, a false 9 and 2 pacy wide forwards… much like Liverpool as you say. We need to sure up and get harder to beat.

[@composedview]

Reading this is enough for me not to keep watching. Thanks.

[@Parky_1712]

It mostly comes from ignorance in not knowing what's really going on outside the PL, and even with that, mainly just the 'top 6'

[@Kjeks7]

Scholes is proof that brilliant player doesn't make brilliant pundit.

[@jason14444]

Because he's honest.....😂😂😂😂

[@Kjeks7]

@@jason14444 No, because in order to have a opinion as a pundit, I expect them to atleast have done a tiny bit of research.

[@leroygunnerman6340]

@@Kjeks7de ligt been let go by ajax juventus and Bayern if he is that good why would they sell him ????

[@Kjeks7]

@@leroygunnerman6340 Let go by Ajax? 🤣 Yeah, for €80-90mill. 3 years at Juve, played an average of about 28-29 League Games every season. Went to Bayern for nearly €70mill two years ago and was their player of the season his first year. Started 20 out of the last 28 games or so last season even with Kim Min-Jah and Upamecano there.

[@jurajkovac5027]

No he isn’t, quite the opposite.

[@mcpapasyro]

Backing Toney while bashing Hojlund is criminal

[@crossfit4335]

Hoiljund ain't good enough

[@steverito]

When you hear Carragher try and put pressure on ten Hag, just remember he’s the type of guy to drive up to a child and spit at them.

[@tofussss]

I have no issue with him deciding to spit at the father but he needs to work on his shot accuracy

[@Legend-zo9bc]

I have zero respect for him, not a nice guy at all behind the facade.

[@herschellebenting7558]

No one's nice in this business

[@WeAreMessi]

A serial loser who rode on the coat tails of an amazing Gerrard performance to a champions league win.

[@Chris-vz3ce]

@@WeAreMessiand why not sure he did win cl tho

[@lucashuerta1233]

As a American I have to say English pundits and ex players think way to highly of current English players but don’t hesitate to bash any plays not from England

[@xdgamesCoUk]

not only was De Ligt sold off by Juve, he doesn't get into the Bayern team, and didn't feature for Netherlands at the Euros. He is still only 24 and could well come good, but you could look at his current situation and also be concerned that he might not be what United need.

[@PabloM254]

@@xdgamesCoUk Juve sold him because they couldn't agree on a new contract. The idea he couldn't get in a Bayern team is just silly, after his injury he started for all UCL games from round of 16 to the semis. Only missed the 1st leg vs Real because of an injury

[@yblackie]

​@@xdgamesCoUktell me you get your football views from secondhand sources without telling me you get your football views from secondhand sources

[@xdgamesCoUk]

@@yblackie tell me you're a little child without telling me you're a little child 🍼👶

[@xdgamesCoUk]

@uwesmek Juve sold him, that's a fact, they wanted to get rid of him. He couldn't get into the Bayern team, it's not an opinion it's a fact, obviously you don't follow the Bundesliga. It's also a fact he couldn't get into the Netherlands team at the euros. 🤫

[@windupmerchant1679]

Scholes is an absolute legend of a footballer and a god-awful pundit. He'll be a Graham Souness before he knows it.

[@lukebrown8580]

You must be having a laugh? One of the best midfielders to ever play the game, understand what it takes to be a good player. De ligt is absolutely bang average

[@bengreenbank]

People mad because he’s speaking the truth

[@windupmerchant1679]

@@lukebrown8580 His take on everything is woeful, not just this. Graham Souness is regarded as a legend of midfielders and he only talks pure nonsense.

[@joejohnson3393]

Just because he's not charismatic, doesn't make him wrong and it certainly doesn't put him in the same bracket as Sourness!

[@lukebrown8580]

@@windupmerchant1679 no mate, they talk the truth and understand the game more than most people on the planet 😂

[@markwrench6334]

De Ligt played 43 games for Bayern in his first season and 30 games in season 2. So he does play, and season 2 was lower due to injuries. Come on Scholes; it took me less than 2 minutes research to find that out!

[@illest28s32]

But last season Eric was ahead of him and bayern are letting him go are u telling me Eric dier is better than him😂😂😂😂😂....major concern like when you got the defender from madrid😂

[@LBLB16]

@@illest28s32talking out of your ass. Dier is a lcb and de Ligt a rcb 🤣🙈

[@craigdreyer8860]

Always been a huge fan of Paul Scholes but right now he's speaking out of his ass. Taste the crap on your lips Paul.

[@clintonsam3580]

@@illest28s32 dier wasn’t ahead of him tho lmao do your research Even Bayern fans had a petition out there not to sell him

[@ludwigstenberg1050]

@@illest28s32 When De Ligt was available he was the preferred choice. Take your big head out of your ass and act like a sensible person, christ people try to be idiots nowadays.

[@kevinmcquaid7511]

"Eric Dier playing in front of him" - out of 25 games, Dier only started ahead of De Ligt twice.

[@Genkaku]

Lol what? De Ligt not good enough for Juventus? He basically forced an exit to go to Bayern. At Juventus he was seen as the long term Bonucci/Chiellini replacement

[@playedout148]

Carragher knives out for ETH. Surely he has Uniteds best interests at heart, right? 😂

[@javadazimi9571]

He just cant stand lucky bastards is all

[@gustaaf1892]

I actually agree with him. United could be in serious trouble this year.

[@andilelindanidlamini5917]

lol he still has nightmares of United beating them all those years

[@jasonwolfe5787]

​@gustaaf1892 They might be but I think Liverpool will struggle big time.

[@WeAreMessi]

@@EscapeFromTripWire I understand the frustration but I thiknk it's harsh to say Ten Hag setup the injury crisis. Yoro's was an impact injury, Evans is old, Maguire is also approaching the age where he will pick up niggles and will take time to recover, same with Lindelof, Shaw has been injury prone for years now, who knows what is happening with Malacia, he hasn't played for over a year now. Martinez and Dalot has been back for a minute. Let's give time for the medical department to be overhauled to implement the best in class conditioning. Hard training can't be compromised with because the intensity of every premier league game is now insane. If we don't train hard with more intensity than the actual match then we will always fall short on match days.

[@amoghdhodapkar1338]

Oh my word. Give me a break Scholsy!! What utter nonsense about Hojlund! Scholes e is writing off a 20 year old striker who by the way without much service while operating in a high pressure, dysfunctional environment ended up scoring 16 golas in all comps in his 1st season. Mostly on his own bidding.

[@jason14444]

What makes you think Hojlund is good???????😂

[@Hedgebets100]

​@@jason14444 read his comment again.

[@amoghdhodapkar1338]

@jason14444 You are not so bright, are you. Point is not about being good enough but about being written off after doing a decent job considering the challenging environment at Man Utd. It was his 1st season, and he is only 20 years old. How many 20 year old strikers are leading the line for a top 8 club in England or leagues in Spain or Germany while scoring 15 goals in the first season. Hardly any.

[@thrilla72]

@@amoghdhodapkar1338 I think your point about him scoring despite no service is enough to say that Hojlund is a good player

[@WeAreMessi]

@@jason14444 Its made abundantly clear in his comment. May be the fact that it was more than 10 words might have gotten you confused.

[@GeekyStuff]

"and also Jamie Carragher" 😂😂

[@addielekeawodidaniel9420]

jimmy should be in a pub selling drinks instead... his not even even Good enough

[@sandieeeeeee]

Christ I love scholes as a player but he’s got some dog turd opinions. Has he even seen de ligt play for juve or Bayern

[@ssheldon1616]

Have you? He’s not that good, and I have seen him at both. He is better than Scholes suggests IMO, somewhere between Varane and Maguire. Serie A is an easy league for defenders and he was vulnerable to counter attacks whilst with Bayern. To be fair, good defenders can look bad with how Bayern play.

[@WeAreMessi]

@@EscapeFromTripWire Financial fair play rules were a factor. He was on huge wages. And it's not like Juventus turned things around on the pitch after he left.

[@markshields5883]

No pace

[@dam_451]

Scholes is very contrarian when it comes to football takes

[@ftclips-qu8sh]

Who has? 😂😂😂

[@PabloM254]

Slowly I'm now getting to know why most former English players never make it as managers. Listen to Scholes, Nev, Carra, or Micah Richards and then listen to someone like Fabregas discuss football you will notice the difference.

[@vs6300]

Only that Fabregas was less than half the player Scholes was.

[@xxklesx1]

@@vs6300 lol

[@ushmush4074]

Scholesy was a fantastic player. But he admitted that he doesn't actually watch football matches any more unless he's paid to do so. He's never seen Zirkzee play ffs.

[@thomasandersen6719]

Neither have I to be honest

[@ushmush4074]

@thomasandersen6719 you're not pretending to be a pundit in the media though. If you were getting paid to be an expert, I would expect some level of research.

[@millbank]

Only on u tube as he was only on the bench at euros.

[@ingsve]

Even Scholes doesn't know what type of player Zirkzee is yet still has doubts.

[@EnshroudedLad]

Carragher has succeeded in making united legends hate on their club

[@playedout148]

I'm a little surprised united fans would share a room with him. All he has is poisonous advice.

[@fonz114]

They've done that all by themselves

[@EnshroudedLad]

@fonz114 and it's pathetic! We only got to know about him because he is a pundit, but United Legends seem to think his opinion is somehow backed by this massive experience of winning. It's very annoying!

[@EnshroudedLad]

@@playedout148 in a space like that one organised by Sky, I understand why someone like McKola has to entertain his presence.

[@WeAreMessi]

The child spitter actually has become more famous globally commenting on United than when he was playing for Liverpool. United is still creating a lot of jobs

[@WeAreMessi]

Scholes is saying Ten Hag should have been more pragmatic. Mourinho did do that and finished 2nd, but Scholes laid into him for not sticking to United's "values". And that team wasn't any better than what Ten Hag has. Make your mind up Paul. The irony is, of all the pundits I have ever seen and heard, Mourinho has been the best. His analysis is super deep, engaging. Shows what a brilliant mind he has. These other pundits are just engaging in pub chat at best. Someone like Steve Howson provides much better analysis than these jokers. Scholes is becoming the Mancunian Souness. He won't ever find anything positive unless he is talking about his mates from his playing days. Not that the others don't do that. The truth is United's Glazer ownership and running of the club post Fergie, has been one of the greatest sporting failures of any era. Case in point, they didn't buy Maguire when Mourinho wanted him. He would have been a beast in Mou's low block system. But they go ahead and fire him and bought Maguire the next year for 20 million more for Ole, who clearly had a longer term vision of high line front foot play. So when he did start to implement that by switching away from counter attacking strategy, they bring in Cristiano, who will always be a legend and GOAT, but never was a pressing monster which Cavani was and who suited Ole's third season system. When will pundits like Scholes, fan spitter, Neville, et al provide insights like that?

[@polarisss148]

❤❤

[@collinmusara728]

Paul will never say bad things on English players!!! Your assessment and opinions are biased

[@tevildo45]

Climb out of Jose’s hole will you

[@mukesh.dhimar]

Great point

[@DineshKiran]

The fact that Scholes can take a plunge on attacking Hojlund but refusing to acknowledge how bad Rashford is, shows the favouritism of the English pundits. They're part of the reason we bought Harry Maguire for 80 million.

[@marcusgraham5991]

Scholes is "struggling to get excited", that's his trademark, he should have it printed on his t-shirt. One person you wouldn't want at a party.

[@sadmonkey1478]

What did maguire achieve before coming to man utd for 80 mil? Didnt hear such critism about him from you then scholesy? Still protected them englishmen 😂

[@richardhenderson1902]

I miss the version of Scholes who wouldn’t say more than 2-words to the media

[@unlikelycontender2229]

Jesus, not too negative here fellas lol... the season hasn't even started, give em' a chance lol!

[@sechabatheletsane9784]

All the media are out for blood with ETH.

[@romarioedwards9091]

The moment i saw it was scholes and jamie on the overlap, I immediately scroll past, both god-awful pundits

[@The2FO]

I’m disappointed in Scholes. He got more red cards than any other United players during his playing days, a lot of them resulted in United losing easy games, but he’s now acting like he’s a Superman

[@rafaconsult5980]

​@@The2FOScholes IS the superman. He knows how to deliver and so, I'll listen yo him more if I were you.

[@Sound6838]

Scholes is really wrong about de ligt, de ligt was a regular starter for bayern for two seasons. First season he played with upamecano, he was juventus best defender and he wanted to leave and last season this is where scholes is sooo wrong, dier played with de ligt as the starting cbs, de ligt didn't get benched for dier. If u have actual ball knowledge, you should know de ligt wasn't benched for dier, de ligt was bayerns best defender out of Kim, upamecano and dier

[@Sound6838]

​@@rafaconsult5980scholes isn't right about de ligt tho

[@hbaite6991]

​@@rafaconsult5980scholes was a great player.. but as a pundit nah..

[@mattsilliman1237]

De Legit left Juve because they needed money. He’s leaving Bayern becuase they want Tah and they need to sell someone. He’s a clear upgrade to our team

[@javadazimi9571]

yes upgrade we got shit in our squad but he don worth 50 mil 30milpounds is more than enough because we surely have to get another CB next summer

[@thabisokevinmbili9158]

Face value it doesn't look good 😂😂😂

[@aidenkellegher318]

Why do they want Tah and not him though?

[@diyar728]

So they gonna bring in a new cb and you gonna take their „Trash“

[@doppelganger7369]

@@aidenkellegher318to weaken the opposition (leverkusen)

[@EKoranjeWK]

Juventus fans didnt want de ligt to leave Bayern fans dont want him to leave Paul scholes: he failed at juventus and bayern

[@NickQuigley-dp9so]

But the club and manager got rid of him

[@joejohnson3393]

And neither leagues are as demanding on centre backs as the prem. I'd rather have de ligt over lindeloff anyday but my expectations are more realistic than a lot of "united fans"

[@Pastas666]

@@NickQuigley-dp9so because these clubs need money

[@NickQuigley-dp9so]

@@Pastas666 if he's a good player they don't get rid of him!!!

[@Pastas666]

@@NickQuigley-dp9so that's literally no true and learn the meaning of need lol Italian clubs are winning the league and they literally selling their best players

[@syedaidid4393]

Scholes is not wrong. He is a tactician that can read a game well. Even fergie mentioned that. But that said, his view of De Ligt is harsh. Compare to what we currently have in the back apart from Martinez, De ligt is a huge upgrade and will give us stability. He is young, tall, well built, skillfull on the ball and will be a stalwart the likes of Van Dijk. Im so glad we finally decided not to be cheap and brought in De Ligt into the team. He is still one of the best centreback in the game currently. But Scholesey pointed a very important thing. Man Utd always have a very strong striker on their prime hitting 20-30 goals a season. Be it Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Mark Hughes, Berbatov, Cantona, Yorke, Cole, Saha, Solksjaer, Van Persie. Young players such as Rooney, Ronaldo, the class of 92, were brought in to complement with the senior boys who provided leadership to the team. Too much responsibility on a 19 year old like Hoylund. Fella is unproven in Atalanta to pay such a huge sum and expect him to perform immediately. We should have just paid a dirt cheap 15 mil, Serhou Guirassy from Stuttgart at least to provide some cover at the front. The bloke from the floor mentioned that Man Utd have a bright future with all the young players in the team we have. Why the heck are we talking like Arsenal?? Even though the class of 92 has a lot of youngster, there were still many senior players that provided leadership such as Cantona, Pallister, Keane, Bruce, Dennis Irwin, Kanchelskis, Hughes Poborsky etc..We are lacking of leaders and senior characters that can make a huge difference. And goalkeeper is a HUGE problem also. I really think its appaling that we sacrificed and replace De Gea with this joker Onana. True enough he is a modern day goalkeeper, can play ball at the back. But call me old school. Whats the point of having a GK if its not to protect the goal?? A 33 year old De Gea would have prevented more goals than Onana. It certainly feels more save and less jittery when De Gea was around. I would have brought David back for a lower wage to provide challenge to Andre Onana.

[@wobbphillipworrall1426]

Yeh I disagree with Paul aswell, I think de ligt would have a bigger impact at United than Varane,, his leadership and physicality as well as obviously he's a high line defender which allows us to be more compact

[@Dmaj089]

I agree . De Ligt is a beast pay no heed to these pundits

[@jamesharper586]

Scholes isn’t wrong though - he was kicked out of Juventus and now Bayern want him to go. It’s hard to make a case for him being a game changer at United when big clubs have wanted him to leave.

[@Dmaj089]

@@jamesharper586 you know a player may be great but won't work in certain systems. See Gakpo for Netherlands vs himself for Liverpool. And he's been great so far seeing that both Juventus fans and Bayern fans were both very desperate for his stay. ETH made him de Ligt, I trust he can get that side of him again, so worry less

[@jamesharper586]

@@Dmaj089 ETH also thought Antony was good enough for United…

[@Dmaj089]

@@jamesharper586 so did Pep with Kalvin Phillips. So did Zidane with Hazard. Doesn't mean anything. Why does everyone argue without putting thought in to their arguments? Players and managers are human too, sometimes they'll flourish, sometimes they'll flounder. Not every decision made will be the right one, but fans need to learn and be patient knowing that Rome wasn't built in a day, neither can Manchester United but we're in the ascension

[@jessewrites17792]

The way they get everyone sat up on the most uncomfortable seating 😂. And the pundits have got a leather sofa.

[@jimjam8408]

I STILL don't understand why no pundits seem to accept the fact that last season the main issue for United was injuries. It's not an excuse its a fact. They we're completely battered with injuries and it's happening again already. That's not Ten Hag it's bad luck. Any other team with multiple injuries always struggles. It's only highlighted more at United. Wish people would wake up and see this.

[@faizanyousuf6567]

Exactly ten hag needs to get back the fitness lvl of these players to the top n maintain it

[@battcavegaming7856]

I'll tell you why they won't accept it it's because the lads that step in ole got them in top 4 so the expectation is there no matter who steps in

[@Align500pro]

“Bad luck”…😂😂😂

[@Protato675]

Scholes like many football legends have absolutely no ball knowledge

[@mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019]

How is that massive clear out going ???? Anthony ? Evan’s ? Macguire ? Rashford ?? 😂

[@Stegibbon]

Please learn to spell Maguire ffs.

[@agentancelotti2985]

@@StegibbonI mean it’s gone right over your head 😂😂

[@WeAreMessi]

@@mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019 we never had macguire, so at least that's sorted. Jokes aside, you are right, we would like to sell at least Antony and Maguire. But their ridiculous wages are enough to make it super complicated. Rashford looks sharp in pre season though. Hopefully it's not another false dawn. Evans is not too bad a value though. Dependable backup, not on insane wages. His low resale value means he will be least on priority list of sales. I have a sneaky feeling that he might end up as a coach at some level at United

[@johnmccadden9963]

They won't just clear out the players you don't like.

[@Mopark25]

Why on earth would we clear out any of those players? Evans is 6th choice, Maguire is a great backup and Rashford is still quality.

[@AlwaysIdleton]

Hes got a valid point , after watching liverpool game rhe middle of the pitch cant always be empty . We're just a transition team and even in that our attacks aren't potent enough

[@mercurialblonde]

I'm more in line with Scholes pessimism. I don't see a lot of hope for the season. The injuries have already kicked off. We haven't shifted any deadwood and because of that we can't improve the squad. It's arguably a worse team than last year since we lost Varane and Amrabat. I think top 6 and a Europa league would be a success this season. We're miles off top 4. Also think the manager will be gone by November.

[@vb9150]

casual with an awful take

[@richwinn6048]

Two seasons ago van dijk was injured for most of the season and Liverpool came 7th all the pundits were making excuses for klopp saying any team would miss him etc. we had way more injuries last season and no one gave united any leaway

[@Saddiq007]

Scholesy almost silences them all. Almost all, listening and following. Legend!!!

[@tadhgmoroney5428]

He left juventus they didn't get rid of him

[@danfenton89]

Great to see Scholes as always saying wat thinks legend of are club always will be 💯 per cent one of are best midfields always gave everything to are great club love United ❤️ hate glaziers

[@edsurpes5283]

This is good, making delight more focused!

[@aidenkellegher318]

People saying Scholesy is being too negative, shit pundit etc... He's just being realistic and erring on the side of caution. And he's right, we've seen nothing so far to be too optimistic about. Pre-season was a disaster with injuries and poor results. Yes, there's a new regime and we've got one or two players in but we're still a million miles away from City and Arsenal. Let's be real. How many of you have actually seen Zirkzee play? And I'm not talking about some 5 minute highlight reel on KZbin because any player can look in them!

[@Ace-wp7ld]

I think scholes had the right answer but got there the wrong way if that makes sense.

[@anirudhaj9007]

If you think pre season has been a disaster then I am not sure you even watched the games and are merely forming your opinions based on 2nd hand opinions.

[@colmmcdonnell6256]

@@anirudhaj9007rashford performance in community shield was enough to say pre season rubbish and don’t even start about scancho.if those two start in first few league games it’s no way too 4 .and Anthony and casamerio are as bad as

[@Karl-de5ul]

@@colmmcdonnell6256 Then why don’t they judge Rashford who is a consistent trash for the team ? Instead of bashing the new players who haven’t played a minute for us.

[@johnmccadden9963]

Scholes rarely spoke or signed autographs as a player. Now he gets paid to talk, he mostly criticises the club who paid him millions. It's a shame that he spoils his own legacy. 68000 Bayern fans have signed a petition to try and keep De Ligt.

[@kylelacey8036]

I feel we should get a loan centre half ĺike chalobah

[@TheCipheric]

Dude, Scholsey, just chill out man … the situation we are in with 8th place finish, no champions league, glazers’ financial burden and absolute garbage deals to overrated players in the past, De Light is the best we can do … the guy is talented, he might workout for united, give him a chance before you bring the joojoo …

[@Marshenn]

It's disappointing that Scholesy is always so pessimistic and wrong about so many things regarding United. I mean I get it you can be pessimistic about it, but at least be worried about the right things! His comments on De Ligt and Hojlund were so weird.

[@Chase10995]

He is being honest! You wanna be delusional because you “love” the club? Yeah, right!

[@Marshenn]

@@Chase10995 There is nothing honest about claiming that De Ligt is a bad signing who had bad years at Juve and Bayern. Nor the comments about Hojlund when he scored 16 goals in his first year despite not fully getting started until October November. Like I said, people can be concerned about the club's current status, but be worried about the right things. Like how we haven't really strengthened our squad this summer. Or how the injury problems aren't going away despite changes in medical staff structure

[@tevildo45]

Scholes is right the woke snowflakes don’t like it

[@Disco_Biscuit_]

2nd rate defender for a 2nd rate team good fit

[@samsamboi4042]

Jamie de ligt miles better than u pal lmao

[@PorkChopExpress86]

United fan, but de ligt couldn't clean carraghers boots. He was good as a teenager and he's now a journeyman at 23

[@samsamboi4042]

@@PorkChopExpress86 and carragher done what in his career won a league cup lmao he wasn't even a starter for England

[@BriCairns]

​@@samsamboi4042 carraghers won more than de ligt if you take a look at their careers, granted carraghers retired but you can't knock what he's won, 2 fa cups 3 league cups, a champions league, a uefa cup, 2 uefa super cups, not a bad career really

[@skadforlife8807]

​@@samsamboi4042 Champions league winner 2005

[@Yow531]

Dier - De Ligt was the pairing that started the most important games (for example against Arsenal and Real Madrid). Dier was ahead of Kim Min Jae..

[@kesamakhaya5223]

I totally agree with Scholes. I thought this season we will go for a seasoned striker to help Rasmus, not another prospect. I really don't see anything special about De Ligit. Yoro is a young player who needed to come into a settled team. It would have bn ideal if he came in when we still have Varane

[@MalcolmHughes-de2wd]

Nice to see Adam Mckola sticking up for United and showing support for ETH

[@kimgriffiths4153]

Gobby should know what a second rate defender is.

[@martan1231]

Big words from Scholes! I bet he wouldn't start for Juventus and Bayern during his time as a player...

[@philtaylor8863]

De lift staying at Munich pulled out of Tah deal. Utd can step in and get Tah he’s cheaper.

[@Ryan-C]

Tah is not good. De ligt is better.

[@philtaylor8863]

@@Ryan-C hold on didnt Levekusen go unbeaten. He can’t be too bad this Tah bloke and Munich don’t try and sign muppets. De ligt wasn’t great for Munich or the Dutch and he’s got dodgy knees.

[@Ryan-C]

@@philtaylor8863 de ligt might not be great but he's better than tah. The only reason bayern want rid is because of the wages.

[@jason14444]

Scholes is speaking facts, stop crying and get over it.

[@TurnUpRyan]

In what matter explain 😂

[@jason14444]

@@TurnUpRyan hasn't told any lies, can Hojlund give us 20 goals? Casemiro was never a Box to box

[@Neil_MALTHUS]

A room full of people wishing they were McKola on first name terms with Carra and Scholesy. :D

[@bargepoled]

RVN to be United manager by Xmas.

[@playedout148]

And out in 2 years.

[@liamwilkinson2772]

Great call on Wharton

[@BeeJay226]

Mr Scholes was right…. Man Utd looking at players that are struggling at their clubs

[@ushmush4074]

Are they? Zirkzee was Bologna's best player last season. Yoro played every game. De Ligt was Bayern's best centre back for the last 2 seasons.

[@AVEENASHNUNKOO-lq3ft]

Can you bring good quality defender plz to scoles and cara ???

[@AlwaysIdleton]

It's okay guys , scholes has a right to have his own opinion

[@dykelusyoli5978]

There's an opinion then there's trolling. I think most of us find it ridiculous that someone like Scholes thinks that Toney, who hasn't been liked to any big team, is better than Zirkzee. Then you should also look at how he's slating players from other countries while giving his compatriots a pass. One of the many reasons why United didn't do well last season was Rashfords's poor finishing, Maguire's indecisiveness and Luke Shaw's inability. But for some reason Scholes has harsh words for Hojlund, Lindelof and Varane.

[@gustaaf1892]

The worrying thing about United is that right now we're actually weaker than we were last year. More outgoings than the two incomings so far can compensate for and the main buy is likely to be out for six months.

[@TrigTrag24]

I've never heard someone so wrong 😂 love you Scholesy but that de ligt take is horror

[@Jonas_Shepard]

nah he is spot on.

[@dairefinnie1533]

What was wrong with What he said? Juventus and Bayern have gotten rid of him...top clubs don't get rid of good players

[@bengreenbank]

Nah he’s completely right. Totally cuts through the overly positive bullshit the fan channels try and sell you. The guy has been replaced by Eric Dier at Bayern and Juventus were happy to sell too. He’s just not lived up to his promise And given basically no one improves at United the same will happen here

[@lukebrown8580]

What? He’s completely right 😂😂 have you even watched de ligt? Probably just looking at him because of his name. He’s bang average

[@TrigTrag24]

@@lukebrown8580 OK tell me what he doesn't do well..

[@allandeverythingatonce]

Scholes spitting facts.

[@ajfraser7648]

De Ligt is a big, stiff and slow CB. He's essentially the Dutch Eric Dier. Hyped because he captained Ajax to the Champions League semi-finals that they bottled against the biggest bottlers in Spurs! He's another Maguire waiting to happen. Todibo was the shout but the Ineos conflict of interest put paid to that.

[@josephhall5136]

Utd getting players that maybe not good enough bayern isn't a bad thing, take away the name ' utd ' and looking at the squad the this de ligt signing is great. They need to be going to big clubs and buying their players with experience aswell as youth.

[@jiggersotoole7823]

This is nonsense. Ten hag will not be under pressure. Ineos have already stated weeks ago that Ten Hag is going to be given time to build a team. Jeez.

[@bengreenbank]

He finished 8th last season. Of course he’s under pressure. If we start poorly he’ll be sacked by Christmas

[@jiggersotoole7823]

@@bengreenbank What is the point of thinking like that. Can't you just enjoy watching football.

[@playedout148]

​@@bengreenbank😂

[@playedout148]

It's the english media. They survive on turmoil at United. If it's not there, they'll make it up. They'll be happy if Southgate gets the job because United will never win anything with him.

[@bengreenbank]

@@jiggersotoole7823 because that’s reality?

[@billyprice7852]

What’s the point of this video, thought you were going to react and discuss the debate - who the hell didn’t watch this on the overlap. Lazy guys!

[@davidellinsworth3299]

Probably on The Brew tomorrow

[@bengreenbank]

Scholes is completely right in everything he said about United. But fans still have their head in the sand re: De Ligt, Zirkzee, Hojilund and others

[@joejohnson3393]

I still like hojlund, he got a pretty decent goal tally with fucking zero service. We need to see him and amad playing together more

[@sarutobiopito]

Seriously. More deluded than Arsenal fans at this point and that's scary

[@bengreenbank]

@@joejohnson3393 he’s a decently talented young striker. We spent way way too much money on him and he’s nowhere near good enough yet if he ever will be. He is really really raw and has a lot to improve. The service stuff is mostly cope nonsense. The reason he gets few chances is because his movement is crap and his first touch is poor. The fact people are expecting Amad and Hojilund to lead us to success this season is mind blowing. Neither are anywhere near top players

[@joejohnson3393]

@bengreenbank wow. Did I say they would lead us to glory? Na. I didn't, just said we need to see it. Amad is an unselfish wide man. Did you not watch any united games last season? Hojlunds movement isn't terrible at all, he had rashford who shoots on site within 40 yards and garnacho who wants to show the world what he can do and bruno who had a pretty below par season especially by his standards. We had constantly changing wingback who rarely whip a ball in the box. I'm not even sure why I responded because you clearly don't understand the game

[@bengreenbank]

@@joejohnson3393 yeah you’re an idiot. Keep thinking all that cope nonsense. All the top strikers scored everywhere they went. Doesn’t matter who they’re playing with. Why is it teams at the bottom of the table still have strikers who can score? You’llsee when Hojilund barely scores again all season. Hopefully we sign Toney who’s a real striker.

[@brianchipadza8076]

Wortton is a fine defensive midfielder

[@steliosp1770]

glad scholesy is speaking some sense cause apparently nobody else will, not on this channel not out of any other pundits.. we are fucked. we are worse off than last season at least until yoro is back and we re not gonna sign anybody else cause we cant sell bissaka/mctominay/lindelof and we will never get rid of casemiro antony and eriksen until their contracts run out. anohter season of hoping bruno and rashford carry this club on their backs with shaw martinez yoro eventually injured at the same time and no quality backups behind them.. no CDM at all cause casemiro is finished and there is no backup.. while wasting Mainoo's talent going nowhere. say whatever you want about me being a doom merchant or whatever, people were saying the exact same things about liverpool and the 5 years became 10 and 15 and then 30. we re on the same track. dont need to explain how and why liverpool arsenal and city are better than us, spurs newcastle villa ARE better than us - you dont know football if you think otherwise AND chelsea might be a mess but at least they have players, we dont.

[@dessertstorm7476]

You're not necessarily a doom merchant the problem with you is that you think you're the only one who sees the issues. ALL of those issues are from previous administration (yes they are current 74% owners, but they are out of footballing operations now). The bloated wages, the bad signings. All of them.. Which shows what we already know. This club wont get fixed in one window. We WERE on the same track as liverpool. Liverpool turned it around with backroom restructuring, and stability. Which is what exactly Man Utd have now started so to say "we are fucked" is very short term thinking. It's going to need years of good business to turn it around. It can be done, but fans will need patience. The doom began 15 years ago. Now we finally have reasons to be positive.

[@bengreenbank]

@@steliosp1770 you’re completely right and in a years time everyone will agree this is the correct analysis

[@playedout148]

​@@bengreenbankI don't think anyone will push back. All united fans know the state of the club.

[@bengreenbank]

@@playedout148 nah we’re currently in the pre season delusion phase of football fandom. Loads of fans are optimistic right now because we haven’t actually played any competitive football to prove them wrong yet.

[@mickgi]

Juventus did not get rid of de Ligt. He left Juventus for Bayern.

[@johnowen7302]

He played 15 times with Dyer why do people keep saying he couldn't get into the Bayern Munich squad

[@georgeetto.9580]

The position giving us soo much stress at left back can be well covered by Harry Amass given a chance by Ten Hag

[@MrJimiJK]

17 though, and a lot of responsibility to play on that left hand side for Manchester United, got to take it easy with him. Collyer I suspect we'll see more of.

[@mrbcoolkid8623]

Scholes take on football is one of the worse I’ve heard in football

[@melappleyard2223]

Scholes has forgot about zirkzees assists that’s what we’ve brought him in for not scoring particularly

[@TravisSansbury]

Scholes hasn't been in front of a tv screen in a decade

[@joegugg4129]

Aston Villa could be the surprise package this season

[@CunningStuntsGoFast]

nevermind the german press and fans ridiculing the bayern manager for benching de ligt and letting him go .

[@TMO_films]

The second rate defender is sitting right next to you scholesy! 😂

[@timw9354]

Great video Lads!👍

[@lyrichaven24]

Disregard the previous information who is sir Alex Fergie

[@kemisetsommolawa2223]

Scholes making all the sense in the world.

[@AHP10]

Remember when Scholes warned Ferdinand not to be too happy about beating Atalanta before facing Liverpool? Everyone mugged him off but what happened after that?

[@jumpa654]

De ligt is exactly the player we need right now. We also need a defensive midfielder. A left back would be a bonus. Top 4 would be a good season, I'll be honest. Then get some more signings in next summer, and build from there.

[@tedsonkabiru4349]

Delight facing criminal investigation in Munich right now

[@zilzainol]

Man Utd now is second rated team in Europe btw

[@MrJimiJK]

The last few years De Ligt has done jobs on both Haaland and Vinicius. And spent time learning from Bonnuci and Chielini at Juve. For the cost as well, he could be bargain of the season. IF he stays fit. Big IF at United.

[@timvaneijk-ug7me]

Yeah big upgrade💪 we used to play Casemiro and evans in the first 11

[@golfergti]

How does McKola just dimiss Diallo? Hes been our best player by far!

[@bozzy-101]

The fan from the crowd would make a great pundit!

[@yaneyd93]

I would bet my house that Scholes hasn't seen a single game of de Ligt...

[@amankc7226]

Scholsey doesnt seem to know Juve were having huge financial issues and sold him for €67m to bayern which was a good business. He suffered injuries which could be a concern but got played lots of matches more than Dier. Bayern fans are upset upamecano is remaining and De Ligt is going out. Plus is wages is also the reason Bayern wants to get rid of him. With Yoro injury and having maguire and lindelof this is a massive upgrade.

[@OfoeNelson]

WE bought stars in the past and that approach didn't work out either. Players are important but the coaching is even more so so let's wait and see what ETH can get out of these players

[@gregorylaurence8235]

So what do u think about the young tunisian....is he not a player that should stay as he is one who seems to put out 100 %on the pitch offensively and defensively

[@stevenrichardson230]

I'm kind of in the middle you can't get away from the fact scholes is right not really fancied at juve and Munich so he has a point, but united just could be the club for him I would like to see him in the famous red jersey. Keep upthe tremendous work guys ✌️

[@michael5911]

Scholes has no clue as a pundit - to say de ligt is a second rate defender is a disgrace. If he is thinks that then maguire must be a fith rate defender

[@joedonnelly6293]

totally agree with scholesy, at first I was happy with the start of the transfer window with Yoro and Zirkzee, but the lack of movement with anything of substance since has been a bit deflating. Right now with the new and current injury list, I don't see any improvement at all.

[@memesarentdreams4739]

Scholes should of had the bottle to tell fergie, about centre backs when he had the likes of jones, smalling, o shea,silvestre playing at centre back.

[@arjunprashar97]

Scholes: "not many better than luke shaw when hes fit" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@patlynch1710]

I suppose Carragher would know about not being good enough but I expect hes wrong

[@facepIant527]

Eric dier benched him…

[@kevinjeffery4860]

Paul scholes r right criticising managers he has never had the balls to go into management