Secret Adoptions and Marred Investigations | Exposed: The Case of Keli Lane | 2/3

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Four years after baby Tegan vanished, in 2000 Manly police begin their investigation. But the police have lost crucial time, and Caro discovers how the investigation was marred from the start. By 2004, after a series of excruciating police interviews in which Keli Lane answered questions without any legal representation, her secret world of hidden pregnancies is about to be publicly exposed with a referral to the NSW Coroner’s Court for an Inquest, bringing her life crashing down. Police efforts are focused on finding the child and the father Keli nominated, a man called Andrew Norris or Morris, with whom Keli says she had a brief affair with in the summer of 1995, which ended in an arranged secret adoption. But when one of the biggest searches in Australian history fails to find any trace of Andrew Norris/Morris or Tegan, the police’s Missing Persons Inquiry becomes a full blown murder investigation. A mysterious figure makes contact with Caro, offering new information. After forensically examining thousands of documents and scores of witnesses, Caro and Elise re-examine the police investigation. With breakthrough interviews Caro uncovers witnesses who shed new light on Keli’s movements. Caro unearths an expert who reveals stunning new details about Andrew Norris/Morris, casting further doubt on the soundness of the police investigation.
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[@AustralianCrime]

Part 3 will be uploaded this Friday!

[@elizethompson8627]

Can you imagine that little girl's life if they found her happy and alive?

[@CassandraJay]

What’s with the wait? It’s from 2018.

[@corycaschman]

I was just going to ask

[@dianamay3609]

Thank you I was about to ask

[@bellaquins2139]

So, Is there part 3 or not?

[@reinemarais4392]

There is something really odd about Mummy of Mummy of missing baby. That's just me.

[@KylieAnderson-xi1jx]

The woman is the type that will let her own child be S.A and claim ignorance when ppl find out. Wicked

[@kt1pl2]

She chose to do what she did.

[@sasskvetch8617]

All the young athletes I ever met in high school / college had the exact same type of parents - pushy, image-conscious, very dry and emotionless (unless the kid did poorly, then they'd either get angry or even colder and more distant). And all the young athletes engaged in high-risk behaviour and hid literally their entire lives from their parents. Bizarre.

[@kerryquinn6218]

Very interesting observation, it's like having two personalities.

[@dazzlingextremes389]

My husband's family is this same way. And pushed both their kids to be top notch. Now he and his sister both have issues with showing emotions at all.

[@RaidersShinkicker]

Glad I was a nerd tbh, in school I was envious of the athletes but quickly learned afterwards that being a nerd was a far better deal

[@LilyBecca]

It's quite sad how many teenagers truly believe their parents will disown them for being pregnant. The truth is that 99% of the time, the parents will support their child. I wish there was mandatory counseling required before the teenager makes any decision.

[@neftalitran3789]

That is so insightful.

[@swigglemuffin445]

"Her first major thought was; can't hurt mum and dad." No that was YOUR first thought. Those parents are shifty af. That mother is so concerned about her own self image. I don't believe for a second that they didn't know a single thing about all this. And if they didn't, they're pretty bad parents.

[@Philljag]

Pretty bad parents because they don’t know what their adult child was doing 😂😂

[@stacyketner]

​@Philljag her first pregnancy was at 16, and she was still in high school, it stated in the first video that her first two pregnancies were during high school how on earth did they not know? Yes both of the first two she aborted the second one was a late term abortion so people could have definitely seen a baby bump in the swimming suit , if her mom helped coach the team how did she not notice?

[@Philljag]

@@stacyketner how did only a few others notice? How come most people didn’t even realise?

[@stacyketner]

@@Philljag not sure. In the first video, one of her friends said that they ( swimming team ) did think she was pregnant and no one bothered to ask her about it. It's very strange that the parents and coaches claim they didn't notice but maybe they didn't want to? I believe they were striving for the Olympics possibly? They couldn't afford to lose a valuable player? Or her parents were so self absorbed in their own image that it just wasn't a possibility that their daughter could be promiscuous and pregnant 🤔

[@Philljag]

@@stacyketner the team didn’t say so a few of them did, if her closest friends didn’t notice how would her parents?

[@cherylbglover]

Fact she is grappling for 3 minutes when asked if she wanted to tell them what happened sealed it for me

[@jooliagoolia9959]

For me as well. She won't tell what happened only out of fear from her parents.... "What will people think if they find out" is this dysfunctional families motto...

[@aishahussain2807]

100%

[@janeg8274]

This is just like here in the states with the 19 year old that gave birth in the hospital bathroom last Jan. To a healthy baby but she and will go to court for pretrial in August 2024! The parents are suing the hospital 🙄The reason I bring this up because her mom said she had NO IDEA but the Whole school knew so the mom just didn’t want to know…. Sounds like here??

[@shethingsd]

I keep thinking of it, too, because there were many pictures of her with her tight cheerleading sweater all her friends knew she was pregnant. She also was cheerleading right up to birth.

[@sydneysovern]

Yep I immediately thought of Alexee Trevizo when they were talking about Keli’s parents in the first part. They were also controlling and unconcerned about their daughter.

[@leslievasquez2645]

I believe mom did know but she is pretending that she did

[@voicije]

she is as liar as Casey Anthony is in the USA Casey Anthony's father also was a cop...

[@Lifewithpersians]

I agree totally.

[@AshleyMels]

I thought the same thing.

[@voicije]

@@staciemcteague3545 so? doesn't change one bit my comment... she is as liar as Casey!.. maybe people are missing what was on the news... but you clearly didn't read either...

[@petergill6651]

There was plenty of real evidence at Casey’s trial, not like the innuendo and suspicion on which Keli’s trial was based.

[@voicije]

@@petergill6651 right... but i'm talking about being liars... both are

[@TJ-gm2uy]

How could she have three pregnancies and her parents be completely oblivious to any of them

[@lisajeter9511]

That depends on how often she visited her parents!

[@Free420Love]

@@lisajeter9511true to a point, but these people are flat-out lying. You can’t hide a pregnancy when you’re a competitive athlete that was constantly in swimsuits, and her mom was a part of the team. She obviously saw what was happening, and chose to ignore the situation.

[@Jays19n5]

@@lisajeter9511lived with em, she trained with the team where her mum was a manager…

[@MsPac-Man]

They knew. They told her to handle it, but don't bring the babies home.

[@Liza-cl2gb]

@@lisajeter9511her mother was polo manager.

[@SerenDipity64711]

What baffles me is the boyfriend she had at the time of the pregnancy. He claimed she wouldn't allow him to touch her tummy in bed. The whole situation is bizarre. She says the father of Tegan was an Andrew Norris/Morris, who she had had a brief affair with. So how quickly did she get together with her new boyfriend (the one who she went to the wedding with?) What lie did she tell him, when she was in hospital having the baby, and why did they not go to the wedding together? She left the hospital with Tegan, and handed the baby over to this Andrew - a man who said he would raise the baby, but who had no connection to her at all because they only dated briefly, and then drove for hours to meet her boyfriend and attend that wedding! Really? It doesn't add up. The scenario she tells is so far fetched. Seriously what man would take a newborn baby and agree to never contact her ever again? If he really existed, he would have come forward years ago to save her from going to prison.

[@nixyjam8046]

I can't help wondering, playing devil's advocate.....if this Norris/Morris did exist, and he was some kind of predator....they are very good at seeming honest and charming.....suppose he did take Teagan into a shady kind of world that doesn't bear speaking about....and that's why he never contacted Kelly, or stepped forward to put the record straight, and she realised this in the interview and that's why it took her so long to answer the question....dread, fear and guilt can stop you in your tracks.....

[@bjfontana5760]

Or Andrew could have been married and does not want to come forward.....

[@user-cy4vw1qj9m]

My thoughts too.​@@nixyjam8046

[@user-cy4vw1qj9m]

I think she had the child for another couple and was well paid.

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@user-cy4vw1qj9m surely though, with all the publicity in this case, any decent person would have come forward regardless of whether she sold them a baby?

[@kimpelders4996]

Andrew is like Xanny the nanny

[@Shann381]

That's literally the first thing I thought!

[@mandyambrose6739]

For sure a lot of similarities!

[@alienabuser3693]

Does anybody remember baby Gabriel from Arizona?😢also the same.!

[@TheStar798]

Yup! 😂 Zanny my foot 🙄

[@dianeallen98]

Exactly!

[@karencrozier7253]

She needed to figure out how NOT to have babies.

[@Hillbillykaren]

All females know. Keep your legs closed

[@FelisThis]

I think she has a psychological disorder. Wanting the pregnancies but not the babies. I mean five "unwanted" pregnancies in like 5-6 years. There has to be a name for this mental illness. Imo.

[@helenaterschegget8791]

I think this isn’t a coincidence anymore… she wanted to have a baby, but then I think wished someone acknowledged it, absent she then had to get rid off it? If you don’t want to get pregnant you may make the same mistake once, or maybe even twice but not 5 times, and like that every year almost

[@KatJ3st]

Bingo!

[@AnnaMaciak]

I think she just figured it out 😂 it’s not gonna be this easy in jail

[@vickinator]

No matter what happened with this baby this woman has been behaving and treating multiple children with utter indifference. Birth control was effective and available at the time and children are human beings! Her utter lack of concern or respect and repeatedly getting pregnant tells me all I need to know about her character! It’s vile!

[@sarahmurphy8030]

She's a sociopath who has no remorse for what she's done. Baby Teigen is obviously dead but she will never admit it as sociopath are accomplished liars

[@marlene56423]

She def was f*cking around and found out.

[@JanetCooper-i2t]

I just watched this case ..so I had no prior knowledge of the circumstances....my number one question was what led up to that decision..she never said anything about talking to the father and how they came to that decision?....I can see him being there with 2 women and them not asking her is she was sure this was what she wanted to do....I can't see them seeing her being put in prison when all they had to do was come forward ...prove he was the father and tell why they made that choice as parents...what about food for an infant ..clothing ,things a mother worries about ..I just don't see any mother putting a young girl through being imprisoned for a choice they made for the care of Tegan....he nor any of those 2 women came forward?...she hid her pregnancies from those closest to her ..yet trusted to tell him.....I would never just want to say she killed her baby ..but going to a wedding within an hour of handing over her baby...she didn't have a contact #...no one remembers seeing her at the bar ..I didn't see any investigation into the shredder name ..I'm sure not everyone in those areas are moved on...why hasn't any in the bar his friends ever come forward...she said herself he was talking to others there...she also says um um um so many times in that interview..she didn't mention 2 women..one was his mother?...she is one sentence to the point..no follow up to who was there ...how she got to the wedding...she was in white 2 days after having a baby?....I my gut I just thing it's not the truth...she can elaborate on all her births but Tegan .was like I walked to the lobby handed off the baby ..talked for 15 mins ..but I didn't even hear her say anything about the conversation..no one was consoling her?....what guy tells you not to connect ..you just shared the birth of a child.

[@diannebdee]

One would think with all the publicity this case has generated, this "Andrew Morris/Norris" would come forward to say, "Yeah, I'm the guy. Here's Teagan. Take a blood test and let Keli out already." Instead, there's nothing. She's histrionic.

[@gracemc2196]

yes i agree i was thinking that too. he could put an end to this ,im in ireland and i can see this show so we know he can see it wherever he is.she killed that baby

[@Philljag]

@@gracemc2196 maybe he thinks he’ll end up in jail too? I’d keep quiet in his position.

[@molliwilson5639]

Just because she had an affair with someone doesn’t mean she told him about the baby…

[@angelicamichelle1646]

By now he has a deep connection with the baby maybe even his liver/spouse why in heck would they take a chance of the nosey government (that's smarter than you ) takes control of the baby never to see again and possibly the whole world agrees? Think all of you. Put yourselves in his shoes.

[@angelicamichelle1646]

Again are all of you serious? How long has he had control of the baby? Do you think by now there's a deep bond ? Maybe he had a mate a mom that's over the moon in love with this child. The Catholic Church,your own government turns into vampires w the smell of innocent childrens blood. Do you think even an uneducated would NEVER bring their presence admit that child would be ripped so fast from their arms even the scent be gone. Never to see your precious Angel ever again

[@amariebfree5326]

I live in the US and not Australia so my experience may be different, but I had a baby just a few years after this missing baby was born. There are birth records that name myself and my sons father. Over the years for school and sports and even just recently for him to replace his drivers license ive needed to have his birth certificate. There are records of him being enrolled in school, getting vaccinations, even when we traveled together. If this baby was alive and living happily with Andrew Morris/Norris there would be a paper trail. Even if they moved out of the county, the baby would need a passport, maybe a Visa.

[@petergill6651]

At the trial, what you claim was shown to be incorrect, in Australia.

[@dazzlingextremes389]

Back then it was so easy to make up those records. Not the same day as today.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

@@dazzlingextremes389”back then” this happened in the 90’s, not the 40’s, digital record keeping was a thing

[@beemergrl3017]

The fact that she received zero prenatal care and participated in sports that could have been harmful during pregnancy as well as drinking tells me she didn’t care about her babies.

[@aishahussain2807]

Yep

[@lbtkhumalo]

Her ability to detach and distance herself from her babies…her lies…make it so difficult to know if she’s being truthful.

[@Nous520]

I really feel like it’s possible her father was the father of all of those babies.

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@Nous520 I have wondered this too. However, the police might have had DNA tests done on those adopted babies, to rule this possibility out?

[@Nous520]

@@SerenDipity64711 i suppose it depends on the type of adoption and the laws surrounding it? I’m not at all familiar with the legalities. Now I’ve seen the composite sketch of “Andrew” I’m entirely convinced it’s her father.

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@Nous520 the whole case is truly baffling..

[@paulawilkinson6341]

@@Nous520I was thinking the same . She seems a very troubled woman mentally like something horrendous has happened to her to her that’s why she detatchs herself from these children .

[@laurarominger2073]

She learned the first time that she’s on her own. She didn’t want to have an abortion. Her boyfriend wanted her to. She learned to dissociate and that no one stepped up is sad.

[@arianasilesia2500]

I agree it is a total case of disassociation regarding the pregnancies and what she did with each child and even Teagan I’m certain she is dead.

[@chrisannegalvez4449]

Just because she was at the apartment doesn't mean she gave that baby to him.

[@Philljag]

They didn’t say it meant that?

[@molliwilson5639]

Uh, that’s what Keli told the police!

[@helenaterschegget8791]

Exactly… like who on earth gives her baby to a guy she doesn’t seem to know? The adoption process at least checks the parents. It’s seems simple reckless esp as she says I loved my babies. I did the best. She could have done the adoption too legally if.. something isn’t right She needs to think 60 seconds… tell me what ? Then it’s a no. She is not even concerned, how her baby girl is doing, neither her parents btw. No I cant from the right mind believe she would give a baby to a stranger. Just because he perhaps was the natural father makes no sense. At the best her actions we reckless

[@helenaterschegget8791]

@@PhilljagKelli said she want to the appartement where the father lived and gave the baby.

[@Philljag]

@@helenaterschegget8791 who on earth gives their baby to the father of their child even though they don’t know them? You really said that many women do each year.

[@katiemurphy2862]

So the young fella Andrew just turned up with a car seat and has bottles and baby formula for the newborn said he'll rear her dropped her off so she could get ready to attend the wedding really like

[@angelicamichelle1646]

You know there's news articles all the time about young boys who accidentally get their girlfriends pregnant who don't want the baby but the boy fights to the nail for that child if you Google it you'll find some new news articles about that there's some men that have an extremely strong instinct just like women sometimes women have no instinct at all they had the baby and want nothing to do with it for whatever reason even they got money even they got away to support that child they want nothing to do with the child it's hard to raise baby it's not easy I wouldn't bring that child up I wouldn't come to her rescue if I was taking care of that child because you dripped that child right away from me and all of you would say yeah I take that child from him he don't deserve it for whatever reason cuz that's the way y'all people are

[@chelleyd4020]

@@angelicamichelle1646there’s a thing called punctuation, It turns a whole jumble of words into actual legible sentences. You should try it!

[@yvonnedeboer7535]

​@@angelicamichelle1646I know about young guy's like that!! It happens. But why wouldn't he come forward to help Kelli?

[@michellestratford9753]

After last week's edition, I've been eagerly anticipating this. So well done!

[@SerenDipity64711]

Me too!

[@JadedBelle]

I usually try to wait until all parts are posted before watching anything, but with these, I can't wait. They are definitely well done.

[@angesvlogs6628]

Who's to say this Andrew norris was his real name. Its not just women who give fake names

[@chelleyd4020]

Andrew Norris is as real as zanny the nanny /Zanida gonzalez was

[@ewarrior9776]

Where so you get the idea that women give out fake names any more than men do?

[@ewetubin1]

A lot of men give fake names when they run around with many women.

[@VistonZilla337]

That’s what I was thinking .. I think she truly may have given the baby to “Andrew” but the brief romance turned into her not knowing his true identity .. she makes a good point, why not give her up for adoption like the others ?

[@TheDot]

She was young, he may have been older... Perhaps married, and told her he had arranged the adoption

[@sunshinehoward9649]

Part 2. housework can wait.

[@aprilsmith3683]

This is a most wholesome post... I did give a shout of laughter... This most probably applies to many a viewer... 🇿🇦

[@clarekennedy6270]

I thought the same . Lol 😂. F#*k the housework . Cant wait for part 3.

[@mjhay1830]

Haha. I’ve literally just said to my husband ‘can you give me hand with cleaning today. He said ‘Sure, now?’ I replied ‘In a couple of hours I’ve just got part 2 &3 to finish! 😂

[@franceslynch8815]

😂😂😂

[@GloriaSosaLarsen]

😂😂 the same here!

[@6crazycats]

I think the investigation was shoddy but with Kelli’s history of secrets and lying I have a hard time believing anything she says. Also to allegedly hand your baby over to some guy you’ve been sleeping with and then no contact whatsoever after is just bizarre and irresponsible.

[@lynsirobertson3527]

It blows my mind that people think this is normal- for them to badger her for letting the dad take the child. At that point if they’re worried about the child they need to find the man and the child and see what’s up - then say something about Teagan and how they can’t locate her. It’s not their business at all, if he has the child and she couldn’t do it !!!

[@justiceseeker]

So if she didn't harm the baby where is she.????

[@justiceseeker]

Could Andrew be in Canada or some other country.

[@archerandthemouse]

@@justiceseeker I am guessing she is an adult who may not even know she is Teagan, and whose family kept this secret, it happens...

[@yvonnedeboer7535]

​@@archerandthemouseThe right to privacy? This baby is missing, possible dead...I think the baby is more important than her privacy. Where is she?

[@MissLibra-ce8qe]

Sandra Lane calling her biological Granddaughter “it” is deplorable. Fair enough, she has never met her and therefore does not know her, but referring to her as “it” gives the impression that she almost blames the child for Keli being in the situation she is. Also, if this “Andrew Norris” actually exists, then why on earth hasn’t he come forward? It was huge news, even here in the UK it was pretty big news so there’s no way he wouldn’t have known what was going on.

[@myopinion59]

That man that says he saw her at Morris/Norris apartment many times while he was repairing his car in the middle of the night is lying. He said she probably didnt see him as it was dark. Who repairs cars in the dark???

[@Tubifia]

Exactly, and he was like: "Yes I recognize that face", as if he hasn't seen her all over the news...

[@Carols-we8mi]

Why didn’t she use birth control? So many babies……

[@petergill6651]

She did. There’s various reasons why it can fail sometimes. Even five times in 8 years.

[@Carols-we8mi]

Men can use birth control too

[@Drop-Dead-Fred-Did-It]

She stated it the first part she didn’t take it regularly

[@lisapawlik2510]

@@Drop-Dead-Fred-Did-ItYeah, she was just completely irresponsible, not caring about birth control and regularly drinking throughout all of her pregnancies.

[@sarahmurphy8030]

She's a sociopath. All the traits are there lying sleeping around with no contraception and able to hide multiple pregnancies and just give the newborns away. I don't believe Teigen is alive she's very ruthless when it comes to disposing of her babies and just getting on with her life. She's been a very accomplished liar all her life and thought she would get away with killing her newborn.

[@celinejames8359]

If the father hadn't turned up I would have just left her there! Very sick woman

[@amariebfree5326]

Every time Keli gets emotional it's about her, how people will find out and judge her. How this is going to mess up her life. Never any worry about a missing baby. I've known mothers who have given a baby up for adoption and even though they couldnt or didnt want to be a parent, they still though about their baby, wished to know about their lives. It seems to me Keli isnt curious or concerned at all and maybe thats because she knows exactly ahere that baby is. Keeping her secret is motive for sure. Maby the wedding and Keeping up appearances for that meant she didn't have time to spend on the adoption process. Maybe she was just less prepared. Either way it's very suspect.

[@clpr2023]

Let’s suppose Andrew did take the baby. I’m from the USA and I know this case well. Why wouldn’t he come forward. She admits to giving the baby to him. He didn’t kidnap. Why not just come forward and end this?

[@VictoriaMarch13]

I'm also from the US and I've never heard of this case. So it's not impossible.

[@aishahussain2807]

Because its a lie

[@huldaburgh]

Perhaps he had an accident with such a young baby, maybe Tegan died in his custody and he panicked and hid the body. He is not going to come foreward and confess and risk being jailed himself, is he?

[@roux2689]

Seems like she had a fixation & she got off on BEING pregnant; however, did not want to love and raise a child. Just had a sick fixation on being pregnant.

[@nicky_hashtag4264]

Also, at this point her baby would be like 20 something years old. You think finding a 20 something-year-old would be a lot easier than finding a newborn baby

[@lisajeter9511]

That all depends on what the babies name is and what Country Teagan could be living in.

[@haroldbridges515]

Based on the evidence so far I think she probably did just get rid of the newborn, but "probably" does not meet the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt," so I would not vote to convict her.

[@hollydisanto9148]

I agree.

[@a13xdunlop]

Yes I think she disposed of the baby but there is not quite enough to convict.

[@lesterine77]

Right. Bc a 2 day old baby decides to go start a life over somewhere else? People never understand the term beyond a reasonable doubt. No one can ever be 100% certain unless they're the murderer. It's it possible an alien abducted this baby? I guess. Is that doubt reasonable? Of course not. Neither is the doubt that she may have given this 2 day old baby to someone who she can't remember the last name of. That absolutely doesn't come close to the bar of reasonable doubt. But people will still continue to think reasonable doubt means 100% certainty, which is just wrong. But hey, none of this would have happened if we just sterilize these people who keep having abortions. Birth control is free. Use it. Or be given permanent birth control.

[@molliwilson5639]

This was a long term affair. She would have known what he looked like, his age, his profession, where he was from… etc.

[@Noodlepunk]

Yup I think she just threw the baby over a bridge or abandonded it somewhere.

[@drofnats1962]

So much money wasted on looking for a Guy that doesn't exist, they would have been better off looking for the person who drove her home that day and I'm sure that person would remember Keli being all alone.

[@SerenDipity64711]

I always wondered if there was cctv at the hospital. Possibly not, back then.

[@Philljag]

You have proof to say he doesn’t exist?

[@chelleyd4020]

@@Philljagapart from not one record of anyone of that name u mean?

[@Philljag]

@@chelleyd4020 your telling me there’s nobody with that name on the whole of America? 🤔

[@d.rim.4275]

​@@Philljag ehm, it's Australia, not America 😉

[@smch6416]

I wonder if the other 2 children she gave up for adoption have been DNA tested? It would be very interesting to know who the fathers are?

[@ewarrior9776]

Tegan is alive genetic geology could help.

[@petergill6651]

The fathers of Keli’s first child and third child both gave evidence in court. I was there. It was the strangest court case I’ve ever attended.

[@gabegood8989]

the next questions for the former renter(Darryl) who saw her in the garage at night multiple times was did you know a Andrew Norris/Morris who also was said to live in the building? Do you know from what apartment she came out of? Why not ask these questions and if you did why not show it in the video?

[@CharliCharboneau]

Good observation.

[@ac6094]

Yes, especially if he may have been sub letting and not on any lease or not an owner? Why not show his picture unless of course there are no photos of him....

[@brendabailey4319]

Did you not hear him say he didn't know anyone named Andrew Norris living in the building But other renters did say that they saw mail there for Andrew Norris so a guy by that name did live there at that time He could have been subletting and he may have not been there to long anyways since he supposedly took the newborn and left

[@lilmisskiss692003]

he also said he only seen her late at night, in the garage, while he was working on his car.

[@Slim3D1]

And her frends never saw this Andrew? so strange

[@Cuddlefishluv]

If she was innocent, there would not have been that 3 minute silence she gave during one of the police interviews when they asked if she would tell them what happened to Teagan and she then replied, “no”. She either sold that baby, which I think she eventually would have admitted after realizing jail was a real possibility, or she murdered her. In reference to the guy at the apartment building saying he saw Keli all the time, I’m almost positive he’s gotten her confused with another woman because even Keli basically portrayed this man as a one night stand. She wouldn’t have been there all those times. He’s probably seen her face from all the TV coverage and thinks he recognizes her. I think she’s guilty as sin!

[@dmwiley5989]

She could of decided to not drag her daughter into it

[@msjsq1966]

This is incredible. Thank you for the uploads, this story is insane!!

[@lifewith9cats153]

The fact that Keli gave birth to some of her babies and gave them up for adoption lends credence that she probably would not harm Tegan. However, to have no contact with the father or child is odd. Also, how does the father or his family not contact authorities if he exists and has the child?

[@ac6094]

This is what I can't understand either if the father having full custody of Tegan was so amicable and Keli so upset that she had no alternative but to give her to the biological father why would she not know where her daughter was or have no contact with the father even for simple updates on Tegan's life. Additionally, why has the father never been found or him come forward or had a lawyer act on his behalf to protect him legally regarding his full custody of Tegan, especially given the circumstances

[@samchic84]

That's what I commented on the first video about her not hurting all the other kids she had. I'm sure she did it just based on the fact that she said she gave the baby to the dad at the hospital.

[@EggeTrefinneJ]

I could have missed something as I listened to the last video while driving, but I thought there were only 2 live birth’s including Teagan.

[@eiwansk]

​@EggeTrefinneJ if I remember right she had multiple abortions.

[@EggeTrefinneJ]

@@eiwanskright that’s what I got from the last video too.

[@JamesCM86]

It’s so sad that women who desperately want to be mothers would give anything to love and care for those babies, and here she is recklessly getting pregnant and discarding the children like inanimate objects. Sickening

[@dianekelly2212]

There to many red lags I think she did something to baby Tegan, I hope I’m wrong but …..

[@missspell4897]

Was leaving the baby at the hospital not an option? Or calling the dad to pick the baby up there? And even if the dad never came forward what about his friends?

[@juliesprik9479]

In the US a mother can leave a newborn with police or at a fire station if she can’t take care of it.

[@missspell4897]

@@juliesprik9479 I know, I live in the us but I’m asking about Australia

[@d.rim.4275]

​@@missspell4897I'm not sure about hospitals, but in general Australia does not have a safe haven law. At least not up to last tear, when there was a big discussion going on about that topic after a newborn was found in Sidney last spring. But a few districts are testing baby boxes.

[@shethingsd]

It must have been because that's exactly what she did with the third baby and how it even came to light about Teagan.

[@lgrundy6139]

Why does she keep saying she didn’t have any options when she was an adult?

[@jersey6809]

Boyfriend who slept with her did not notice that she is pregnant - Maybe he knows something ????? Strange beyond belief 🤨🤨

[@amariebfree5326]

The composite sketch looks a bit like the boyfriend who never knew she was pregnant in my opinion

[@alisonlaing5626]

When looking for an Andrew Norris at that app block..........first thing that comes to mind...........men DO lie about their names when picking up women etc.........not all.........some DO...............this AN could only of been staying at that block etc............great Doc here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Roxana067]

You don’t hand a baby over and there’s no trace of that person she’s in denial and lieing

[@Philljag]

You don’t hand a baby over to the father? Lots of women do? You have evidence she’s lying?

[@Mazikeen-ix5sp]

But savigna baby after she's had known she'd be caught goin through the process before

[@Mazikeen-ix5sp]

I gave my son to his father and he was a middle child a remarried and had three more kids. I have 6 total I have sole custody of two and shared custody of three with my husband I never murdered my child. It never crossed my mind but adoption did

[@Roxana067]

Adoption is one thing there’s no trace of this person or the child because it was a made up story

[@Roxana067]

More interested in attending a wedding than caring for your new born child

[@voicije]

the entire time she was in sport competition.. she never spoke about being pregnant... because... her career would be over... and shaming her parents being coaches...

[@siobhanjoy995]

It could have happened, this went on in Ireland for a long time , look up Irish launderies , it's where women were sent to when they got pregnant out of wedlock . The Catholic church have a lot to answer for . A shameful stain on our history 😢

[@montserratq4222]

No the same

[@cherylbglover]

Not even close. Apple and oranges. The children of the laundrys were forced .

[@jennlo88]

That silence for over 1 min.. like she was contemplating coming clean about something. Idk..

[@cheetoesgal5229]

Sick, sick, sick. She absolutely belongs in jail!

[@huldaburgh]

In jail for her promiscuity and for telling so many lies - not fair! Release her immediately, no proof of Tegan demise!!!!!

[@bettydamnboop3030]

Hello to all Aussie crime fans I hope you’re having a blessed day 🌹

[@amethyst1826]

Thank you, @bettydamnboop3030. You, too. x

[@ewarrior9776]

Genetic geneo!ogy could help to find this kid is still alive or provide more evidence that she is dead.

[@tbd419]

She's protecting someone. And, yes, the parents are shady AF and the mom is a piece of work on a good day. Was someone sexually abusing her? And it also sounds like she may have been inconsistent with bc pills which you can't do if you want to not be pregnant.

[@sally4026]

I'm inclined to agree with you

[@jodyross6185]

The narrator made a mistake, it wasn't 3 pregnancies, it was 6!!!

[@Hillbillykaren]

She apparently couldn’t keep her legs closed

[@bjfontana5760]

And I guess the men couldn't keep their zippers up either.@@Hillbillykaren

[@ritadonnelly8820]

and the men didn't care​@@Hillbillykaren

[@katharina...]

I'm having such a hard time believing she killed that baby. Perhaps she did, or maybe something else happened. The story she wants us to believe makes little to no sense, although I do see how after having such a hard time going through the formal adoption process the first time, she may have wanted to give the next baby up without going through all those formalities. Why wouldn't the people who got the baby come forward though? The only reason I can think of, if this is what happened, is that the girl was being abused, and by coming forward, the people who had her would have exposed themselves. What an awful story altogether 😔

[@Nous520]

Yes I’m thinking something like this- either she was forced into pregnancy and the baby sold off or her father is the father of the missing babies.

[@ellecee453]

Do you mean baby Tegan when you asked why wouldn't the people come forward who got the baby? One reason might be because the adoption was illegal.

[@FourHuskyHomestead]

I think she gave the baby to someone. Because she did the other 2. It’s sad she felt she couldn’t go home to her parents with a child. Her mother is a cold one. Maybe her home life was really bad and she felt her child would be better off with a different family. Like any family would be better.

[@petergill6651]

To answer Katharine’s question, assuming “the people” do not include the biological father, they would go straight to jail, under NSW Law here in Australia. In my opinion, that’s a massive disincentive.

[@TheDot]

This man may have been living a double life... And he could have taken child to another couple, to hide his affair

[@Nous520]

Was her father the father of the babies?

[@BadReligionTinaKiwi]

Exactly why she’d be in such denial if this was the case. Those parents are so off and cold. Wouldn’t be surprising.

[@emilyemily444]

The more I watch and find out about this case, the more it points towards Keli's father, being the father of her children.

[@TheLisclark]

Or her brother or other relative, even a coach.

[@petergill6651]

@@TheLisclark Not her brother. A relative of whom? Not a coach. Not Keli’s father.

[@antoniafaheerty6980]

My thinking exactly.. Explains the weird actions of the parents.. He was a police officer.

[@mkw2784]

Does anyone suspect that the mystery father was a married man?

[@lisawhitear4]

I've been waiting for the next episode. Thank you

[@smch6416]

How can it be so hard to give Teegan away, and to think 'how have I ended up here again', and then end up there a 3rd time!!!! I don't understand any of that.

[@CassandraJay]

She’s disillusioned

[@thearodriguez8073]

​@@CassandraJayDillusional indeed!

[@ZebRoland.]

This Journalist did an amazing job !!! It was really hard work...I can see that

[@talithagrisham3746]

She's lying.Peroid. May she get the justice she deserves.

[@rouxannebredenkamp3872]

did keli ever take a lie detector test??

[@multioptioned]

Why would she risk it? Lie detector tests are not admissible as evidence so would prove nothing legally.

[@elsjemassyn8921]

That baby could be trafficked who will ever know??

[@pamelaleannefreeland9025]

Andrew Morris/Norris does not exist. But at long as that woman’s parents are alive, and maybe even not then, she will never admit to what she really did to poor baby Teagan.

[@bobbiejoecassell6717]

reminiscent of Elizabeth Johnson and Casey Anthony.

[@danamakesit4623]

I don’t mind the ads but geez can’t even watch a full 5 minutes without another ad, this is why I don’t watch the whole video

[@m.marrakchi9393]

Upgrade to Premium. You'll never watch another ad again

[@mrsf6740]

Shes protecting someone... The way she sat for 3 minutes waiting to answer and then when the officer suggested her killing baby Tegan her reaction felt truthful... No, no i didnt do anything like that

[@kerryquinn6218]

Yes, if you're asked such a serious question and you're innocent your reply would be strong, quick and direct.

[@christinajudge1491]

If keli was having an AFFAIR with a married man,were was his wife??why was he living in an apartment without his WIFE?

[@alicianbuck]

I call BS on the witness. How would he ever remember someone he saw in the dark on a few occasions 30 years ago. 🤥 He just wants to help IMO.

[@ReRe-kr1ht]

Im just hoping to give a diff perspective ab her successfully concealing pregnancy, having the baby, and nobody knowing. Im not saying her parents didn't know, don't get me wrong. When I was 17 I got pregnant by a guy my mother hated & threatened to have arrested bc he was 21. Truth be told it wasn't his age it was his race. I just couldn't bring myself to tell her & I tried so many times. The father made promises he didn't keep if Id just keep baby. At the time my mom was spending a good bit of time at her boyfriend's but def home enough that we interacted regularly. She never knew, I know her well enough to know she would've at least questioned me if she even suspected it. I wasn't a big girl, I just wore baggier shirts & didn't button my jeans. A week after my 18th birthday I went into labor at home. Mom was gone but sister was home so I spent the day & most of night in my room, by myself, in pain, scared to death & so confused until the father finally made his way over. He said he thought I was lying ab contractions to get him to come over. Then he dropped my @$$ off at the door of ER & left. I decided right then & there I couldn't give the baby the life it deserved & called the agency I had talked to a few times trying to explore my options. I went home 2 days later & acted like nothing ever happened. Obviously there was signing documents at a lawyers office & all the legalities, my heart was absolutely broken, I felt so alone & abandoned by the father & my mother bc how did she not know but I carried on. She still doesn't know to this very day.

[@chelleyd4020]

And there’s a hospital record of you and a paper trail for that baby……unlike this case

[@TheDot]

Sorry you went through that ❤️ that must have been tough.

[@wenavandermerwe6407]

Shame so sorry to hear about what happened to you - a very huge secret to have to bear alone. Hope you have seen a psychologist since its something you have to find peace with.

[@neftalitran3789]

❤ to you.

[@LYVwithLYN]

This lady killed her baby.

[@dianeshannon7988]

Totally gripping but 6 pregnancy and then married quickly full disclosure probably not.

[@gleadhill79]

Why didn't they go and visit Keli and ask their questions, instead of a few minutes on the phone? So annoying!

[@amethyst1826]

Maybe they can't get a visitors pass, or the prison is in a different area that is far from them.

[@gleadhill79]

@@amethyst1826 maybe, but even one visit they could have got a lot more info. Why wouldn't they get a visitors pass? It doesn't seem like Keli was a bad inmate. Never mind, it is what it is.

[@ewarrior9776]

​@@gleadhill79She was a bad inmate. She blew her day parole because of inappropriate behaviour. Her parole was revoked and will end up doing most of all of her full prison sentence.

[@gleadhill79]

@ewarrior9776 that explains a lot, thank you! So sad!!

[@kristinenagornaja7667]

Okey …I am fully invested in these series about Keli Lane 👀👌🏼

[@nixyjam8046]

The very fact that they did not check the available phone records makes it an unsafe verdict, because there is reasonable doubt. Andrew Norris, if that is his real name, needs investigating.....it smells predatory to me. She was naive, and scared of her parents, I can absolutely relate to that.

[@rowenakeeney]

I want to take something back that I said on part 1 of this video. I said that the mum was extremely unlikable. I was wrong. I saw her differently on this video. She was hurting about her daughter and I think she expressed it in a way sometimes that came off making her look bad. Sorry mum 😢

[@Richhpotato]

Why wouldn’t the guy come forward at this point.

[@amethyst1826]

Lots of reasons. He may not know anyone is looking for him. He may have moved far away. He may not have told a spouse how he came to have the child. Might have given the child to someone else. Could have died and the child could have been adopted by family or be in care. Etc.

[@Richhpotato]

@@amethyst1826 very valid. I would hope if he is alive and he wouldn’t know about this and not say anything 😰

[@aishahussain2807]

Shes lying

[@carolynnilsen9270]

Or the child is alive and unaware of her history....and no - one wants to rock the boat.

[@SuthrnBlueEyes]

I'm having a hard time doubting her, but also im having a hard time believing her as well. I just don't get why the father wouldn't come forward with the baby. I dont understand why she wouldnt try as hard as she could to find her baby daddy to keep herself out of trouble... And I also see it as a character flaw for this woman to have sooo many pregnancies and never tell a single soul, but then also not have the common sense to realize that people could see her showing and what not so it wasnt a secret like she thought. It's just crazy to me.. All of it is. I cant help but to see this case and Kelly as the original Casey Anthony. Either way I pray for baby Tegan.

[@smch6416]

Maybe it's hard to doubt her because she is a proven phenomenal liar. I'm the same as you. When she speaks its with such conviction it's hard to doubt but the story is so crazy, it doesn't make any sense

[@SuthrnBlueEyes]

@@smch6416 you are so right! She is sooo good at sounding truthful. So good that it's scary

[@molliwilson5639]

Sociopaths are “ mimics” . She a great liar.. lifetime achievement award .

[@Hillbillykaren]

She did it

[@LYVwithLYN]

The lady saying I don't believe she would have harmed the child is incredulous, to say the least.

[@Mazikeen-ix5sp]

Adoption is private handing baby over to dad also legal having dad adopt baby legal and private how can they out her medical info

[@petergill6651]

At the first adoption, a nurse told Keli how much jail time one gets for being involved in an illegal adoption. That info was in the inquest and also in Allison Langdon’s book.

[@lasermouthful]

This case screams Occum’s Razor. The simplest explanation is probably the right one….meaning Andrew is probably not real and Teagan is probably not alive. The more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely the explanation.

[@daddysangeljetta]

Shout out to the person who handed over the usb and gave us the entire story and documentation what a gent. You’ve done well kind sir and we all applaud you

[@cemoihonay]

Where? Where???

[@User04678name]

Kind of shocking Australia justice went so “full on” against Kelli when they are so soft on violent criminals!

[@waypay1]

They did the same to Lindy Chamberlain, and she was innocent.

[@brucejohnston3521]

different era

[@dianathompson8794]

​@@waypay1many more innocent people were falsely convicted, than that poor Lindy Chamberlain.

[@petergill6651]

@@brucejohnston3521 Not exactly. Kathy Folbigg had the same prosecutor as Keli. The prosecutor won every jury trial he did in over 30 years of prosecuting, unless there’s one or two cases I haven’t located. The prosecutor wrote a true crime book “Kidnapped” about the Thorne kidnapping, and rather curiously included two footnotes about the Keli Lane trial. Keli’s prosecutor wrote in footnote 5 to Chapter 8 of his book Kidnapped: "In the case of the disappearance of baby Tegan Lane, the investigation only began in earnest more than seven years after her disappearance in 1996. the searches for her were seriously flawed in that the police sent questionnaires to every primary school throughout Australia asking for information about any girl called Tegan or Lane whose birth had been registered on the day of Tegan's birth, or on the two days on either side of it. This failed to take into account that a person who may have informally adopted her - as her mother Keli claimed - could have changed Tegan's name or registered her birth as having occurred on another day. At the trial, the Crown admitted that the searches could never definitively prove that Tegan was dead. They merely showed the extent to which the police had gone in their attempt to find her." and footnote 4 to Chapter 7 includes: "A number of even more extensive searches - this time for a missing child, and subject to serious flaws - were conducted by police investigating the disappearance of baby Tegan Lane who vanished days after her birth in 1996."

[@thearodriguez8073]

Her victims are babies one missing and potentially murdered, she drank and did drugs throughout her pregnancies. She denied she gave birth to the missing child.

[@mdocrafting]

The courts tactic was disgusting , the fact that these cops keep judging her for having multiple children is disgusting. I am not saying she is right or wrong, but the way it was all handled by "professional law agencies" disgusting .. loving these episodes

[@Roxana067]

But having that amount of children and constantly giving them up and giving a day old baby away is ok and your telling me adopting kids out and nobody knew or saw is mind boggling

[@mdocrafting]

@@Roxana067 I am not saying her manner of birth control or there the lack of is a good one. It happens , a lot especially with young girls that have strict parents or have secret lives. It is their decision, I just feel that professional law enforcement agencies should not have tunnel vision. If there are critical things missed in an investigation due to opinions and not facts, its a scary thing.

[@anthonyufert8477]

Excellent work! I just watched the doc about Luna Patk on Netflix and it was another great job by the same journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna. Very empathetic and professional. Keep up the great work.

[@badassmomofteens4611]

What is it called? On netflix?

[@anthonyufert8477]

@@badassmomofteens4611 it’s called Exposed: The Ghost Train Fire

[@leahruss1654]

@@badassmomofteens4611 exposed: the ghost train fire

[@amethyst1826]

@anthonyufert8477 What is it called, please?

[@anthonyufert8477]

@@badassmomofteens4611 Exposed: The Ghost Train Fire on Netflix

[@karinatrujillo8437]

No way...she is not a victim, babies are.

[@chelleyd4020]

Andrew Moria/Norris is as real as Zanida Gonzalez/zanny the nanny was

[@helenerussellscott3175]

John Borovnik seems to take a perverse pleasure in pursuing Keli. She clearly has psychological issues as her repeated pregnancies is not normal behaviour, but she needs psychiatric help not the strong arm of the law. I am not clear what motivated him to be so clearly delighted that he found her out.

[@TheDot]

I agree, I felt very uncomfortable with his behavior towards her. Something not right there!

[@daddysangeljetta]

The gullibility of many of y’all is wild this isn’t a once or twice my mistake six freaking times and that’s just the ones documented

[@shirleyguy7152]

I just don’t understand why Father regardless of name or profile wouldn’t come forward with his daughter

[@VictoriaMarch13]

There's a lot of reasons.

[@elllekelly2215]

Keli is in Distress ..she clearly lives 2 separate lives...how no one said anything with Baby #1? Coaches? Teachers? Teammates? I use to swim competitively and everyone would have known she was pregnant? How on earth did she play water polo? Its an aggressive, powerful × physical game...pushing, kicking, scratching × very stressful...then she went drinking × partying after practices × games??? Again, how did no one say anything? Be responsible × use protection × birth control? Why did she terminate 2 of these babies × decide to have the other 3..2 of which she puts up for adoption? She ckearly is Psychopath, Narcissist, Manipulator, Lied..Lied..Lied..over 90 times? Compulsive Liar? She clearly is in jail for a reason... This poor baby? She clearly needed assistance, help, therapy? Reach out there are services to help young mothers... Its clearly so Heartbreaking ...

[@Pirike74]

I totally agree, with all the above. Boils my blood, how could she keep breeding, like there is no tomorrow? Giving kids to adoption, like used clothes? I am hundred percent sure, that she killed this baby. Why? Because she is a psychopath, and she could. The fact that she is still delusional, and keeps lying is just beyond me.

[@EverEvolvingEntity]

I fostered three children and the mother never visited nor called. She eventually lost all Parental rights. She has gone on to have five more children since then, of which the first 4 of those children were taken by CPS at birth in the hospital and then, low and behold, let her keep the last one. I am uncertain if she still has the child in her care as I finally tuned out to the entire situation with her. It broke my heart honestly. We should have some type of safeguard to keep people from literally breeding babies for the system and taxpayers baring the financial responsibility and the resources and work to do everything that is needed. It is incredulous

[@viviennegregson1751]

I think keli lane is related to the babies father i think the first four babies have the same father who is related to keli either brother uncle first cousin

[@petergill6651]

Impossible. The evidence at the trial, eg from the father of the third child, makes this impossible.n

[@donnastarnes3104]

The composite drawing of Norris at 58:33 looks just like the young man standing with his arm around Keli's neck in the family photo at 11:33. I think she sold the baby on the black market and doesn't want to be caught, nor have to deal with turning in or helping locate potential people in child trafficing. And her fear of disappointing her parents? Well having sold your baby on the black market would truly be a fate worse than death.

[@Lifewithpersians]

her first boyfriend in part 1? if so I have the same thought

[@amariebfree5326]

I think the composite looks like a few different guys she's dated. The guy she was dating when she gave birth, there's one picture where he has a rounder face and his hair looks a bit lighter and I thought it looked like him there.

[@zyrrhos]

These people who say she wouldn't have hurt a child appear ignorant of other cases of young women who hid pregnancies from their loved ones and disposed of the babies after birth.

[@SICresinwrks]

I used to want to move to Australia, but just the past few years alone with the bs like banning nicotine vaping for adults, their ridiculous view on cannabis on top of stuff like this case. Australia is now one of the last places i would visit if im being honest

[@sallystinebaugh8893]

Australia has gone soooo WOKE !

[@thearodriguez8073]

Vaping and noctine should be banned everywhere.

[@twinkletoes6290]

Australia has been showing the world, esp in recent years, that they’re still a penal country!!

[@SICresinwrks]

@@twinkletoes6290 thats a fact, its absolutely absurd, and here we thought you had to live in a communist country to be treated like this

[@audreyb1935]

Very odd her parents did not notice any of this , not like they had 8 kids . Very strange her mother didn't see anything, most mothers are very interested in daughters lives . I get being terrified of your Dad mine was tough but multiple pregnancies how scared was she then ??

[@leslievasquez2645]

I wonder if Andrew Norris was married at the time and that’s why they can’t find him I just can’t believe she was convicted without any proof whatsoever

[@TheDot]

Totally agree!

[@erikastlaurent1017]

Anyone else catching serious Casey Anthony vibes..? The shear lack of concern for a baby is baffling.

[@cemoihonay]

Well I thought she sounded very sincere on the phone to the reporter. She cared about the baby and was upset at letting her go to the father. As she said, why would she harm the baby when she could just leave it the hospital or get it adopted?

[@amyme4066]

Tough one to call. My main problem is that people seem to think she's guilty because "Andrew would have come forward with all the publicity". Assuming she is telling the truth for a second here, what if he emigrated and doesn't know? What if he gave her a fake name? What if he is terrified the child would be taken from him? What if he sold her or did something awful to her himself? That, to me, is reasonable doubt. They can't prove anything one way or another and that would trouble me as a juror to brand someone a baby killer without tracing the father or a body. The fact that police hadn't tracked down that witness who saw her at the apartment building is also troubling. Their main argument was she was a pathological liar and he would seem to contradict that. Maybe I'll eat my words in part 3 but so far theres a lot of this that just doesnt make sense. Why would she not do the same thing and go through the adoption again? Too many questions with no real answers.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

I completely agree.

[@katjajkksihscakiiski6482]

Australians own Casey Anthony. Maybe she didn't actually kill the baby, but left her without decent care and she died. Her parents are just😮. Defending themselves and her lies.

[@paigethefarrier6243]

something is definitely up wi🎉h the parents not to notice anything especially the mother

[@KylieAnderson-xi1jx]

Amen

[@KylieAnderson-xi1jx]

Reminds me of these women who cover up when their children are S.A. by males in the family 😮