Secret Com2us Interview With Top Korean Players Left Community Speechless

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@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
The Korean player who shared this wanted us to raise our voice as well because he believed the dying population of Korean players couldn't make a difference anymore. What do you think?
@ChildishPlays
@ChildishPlays 8 ай бұрын
RALLY THE TROOPS!!
@fmeyer2446
@fmeyer2446 8 ай бұрын
I really dont know how to get them to listen to us
@zaleww5824
@zaleww5824 8 ай бұрын
things are better when crazy as long as it's not too dominant and game breaking. like they release 2a's and new nat5s and they are just sooooo horrible most of the time and people needs to wait over a year to some of them to be at least usable. also there is lots of units that are rotting in storage for straight up 10 years. developers needs to be more daring in terms of updates. like jsut adding new dungeons and collabs won't help if your game is same as 3 years before pretty much
@zaleww5824
@zaleww5824 8 ай бұрын
@fmeyer2446 they don't want to cuz shit units still helps them selling packs . they are willing to kill player base by doing barely anything and just watching
@PurbayaBatik
@PurbayaBatik 8 ай бұрын
I think they should consider about server migration for player for one more time, so player can transfer their account to another server. I believe islandgrown once said he would like to transfer his account from Asia to Europe (or Global) because he has a lot of active friends there than on Asia Server. I think that method can save Korea server problem of lacking players. Perhaps there are Korean player that stuck on other server that want to go back to Korea Server.
@pegrat
@pegrat 8 ай бұрын
"its burdensome to leave such notices" is gonna be such a meme XD
@GurkenLpxD
@GurkenLpxD 8 ай бұрын
In germany we have a politician who once said „it’s better to do nothing than to do it wrong.“ which lead to became a meme for a while. Com2Us give me the same energy
@AKd3rd
@AKd3rd 8 ай бұрын
What the hell, every goddamn balance patch they have this "we are listening to the community feedback". Redditors saying it's the korean community, korean community saying it's not them, who the hell is this community that Com2Us is listening to?
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
To themselves ig 😂
@kxi._.5765
@kxi._.5765 8 ай бұрын
They look at a wall of angelmon plushies whenever looking for community approval.
@rhodesailant9728
@rhodesailant9728 8 ай бұрын
Well look at devilmon skin bruh, u cant even flex it anywhere
@jpvoxdawg
@jpvoxdawg 8 ай бұрын
Advertising revenue
@ianwebb8066
@ianwebb8066 7 ай бұрын
Oh I left them a review all right, see if they ban me
@calcifer026
@calcifer026 8 ай бұрын
the "com2us only listens to top tier korean players" meme is not even true anymore lol
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
Even their home server is dying 😢
@BluTruly
@BluTruly 8 ай бұрын
Skill issues only
@run8scap80201
@run8scap80201 8 ай бұрын
I wasn't even saying it as a meme about it. I just thought they did. Wow.
@라민-g9j
@라민-g9j 8 ай бұрын
As korean redddit user, it was funny cuz Koreans would say they dont listen to korean server because of low population and feedbacks while reddit would say they only listen to korean top tiers lol
@run8scap80201
@run8scap80201 8 ай бұрын
@user-cj9te3vb9e they probably most likely listen to their shareholders the most.
@TheLexiko
@TheLexiko 8 ай бұрын
"I've been playing this game for x years spent x amount and I only have x amount LD!" - veteran SW player.
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
10 years f2p no LD5 gang 👀
@RiftyLuca
@RiftyLuca 8 ай бұрын
@@SeanBGames7 years f2p no ld5 :/ is not even a lack of playing either, i'm g1 arena, g1 sl, and have like 3 c3 rta finishes 😭
@OnAa3r
@OnAa3r 8 ай бұрын
@@RiftyLuca This is why i quit 8 times and counting. play for a month. summon another 10 lds. get nothing. quit till next year. rinse repeat
@arkanghelv
@arkanghelv 8 ай бұрын
You dont need ld5 to play this game ..
@stickyone11
@stickyone11 8 ай бұрын
yeah easy to say as a whale eh?
@eltimo109
@eltimo109 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Com2us realises that everything they can do is bad. Nerf a unit = "why is it shit?" Buff a unit = "it's too op / that buff did nothing wth?" Change smth for top guilds = lower guilds feel excluded or overwhelmed Change smth for lower guilds = top guilds say nothing changed and the patch was garbage Release new content = "ew no, it's too much to farm already" Release new units = "they're shit anyways, if not they're gonna get nerfed eitherway" Announce content (1) = "oh wow, this is going to be absolutely dreadful and whaling ruins it" Announce content (2) = "yo this seems pretty hype. Might be the best update ever."' Invites to an online talk = "ay where's my ld5? I have been playing for x years and spent x money!!" Invites to an offline talk = only hardcore whales and endgame players arrive New Event = "urgh it's just farm this, farm that as always" New Event (but good) = "omg why can't this always be like this? I want 10 Nat5s choice every month!" Good summon session = "great now I have to wait for months to skill this up and build this" Bad summon session = "com2us clearly doesn't like me. they have an agenda against my account" There is no way to satisfy anyone for longer than 5 minutes. Thats just the structure of this game. Oh you finally got your legend swift spd grind? It rolled a 5 right away? Gz. Half a minute later you complain about how its not like that all the time or how despair stuns and vio procs will still find a way to bring your mood down. I understand com2us saying interaction is dreadful and burdensome. The community will always be unthankful and com2us were the ones initiating this by ignoring us for years and years. The moment they tried to be better individuals and a better company, we just verbally abused them and started crying about everything at once. Its a 50/50 on this one. Just a horrible partnership from the beginning.
@kemoyjohnson4333
@kemoyjohnson4333 8 ай бұрын
YO THIS IS MY EXACT SENTIMENT THIS NEEDS TO BE UPVOTED MORE AND SEANB NEEDS TO PIN THIS
@dennis9584
@dennis9584 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, and people need to remember try hard siege player is such a small percentage of the entire player base. Most people didn't event built an optimal Abbys farming team. I found the improvement in the last year is really good, but I do think the recent balance patch is too bland. Though I do rather have a bland than broken one.
@reecejoyce5183
@reecejoyce5183 8 ай бұрын
Making games is hard, if only they earned a good amount of money to make it worthwhile eh? This reminds me of the 'well at least updates come out' argument when games come out unplayable nowadays. It's hard, but you have to try better
@rosenamajunas1159
@rosenamajunas1159 8 ай бұрын
That's why they get paid for. You maintain unsatisfied players in your game. It's the hazard of the trade. Stop whining it's the same with other industries. You talking like they are doing this zhit for free.
@TheAce5399
@TheAce5399 8 ай бұрын
The fact the even the Korean base is leaving should tell Com2Us everything they need to know about their game. If it were up to me I'd make a lot of QoL changes and PvE changes to make the baseline of the game better. When that is taken care of Com2Us can focus solely on making new content and balance patches to make the game feel better. (ie new units, 2As, 2v2 RTA, better siege, better guild content over all, ect.)
@palmon8973
@palmon8973 8 ай бұрын
Com2us statistics = Vio proc chance
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
Fair n balanced 💀
@rhodesailant9728
@rhodesailant9728 8 ай бұрын
Me that "always never" proc vio in rta 😂, but enemy always get 50-90% proc rate. Losing 4 vs 1 unit because vio proc 😂 is normal
@Realm5217
@Realm5217 8 ай бұрын
I think the biggest issue is that it’s clear that the developers don’t play the game outside of work where they have GM authority. If they did, they would understand why players have the perception of rates, rune drops, real stats, etc. Because as much as Com2us likes to gaslight the community, they aren’t transparent on purpose. If they were, you would see how much of their product is a scam. They sell a digital product with no inventory cap. LDs are roughly $20. The fact that I can spend, $1000 on 50 LD scrolls and get nothing is a scam. At a certain point, the game mechanics go from RNG/Gambling to scamming. It’s obvious that Com2us does not listen to the player base. They barely listen to whales and only when they threaten with money. An example is the Tian Lang nerf. With the addition of artifacts, his s2 does more damage than intended and needed to be scaled back a tad. Whales cried because their OP unit that they spent a lot of money to get was nerfed. Com2us retracts that nerf just to make them happy. In the meantime, MoLong s2 was nerfed in the same capacity but was not undone as TL was. Clearly Com2us does not see this as an issue. Com2us should focus on making SW better because every other game they have made has failed. This game props them up. Without it, they’re nobody.
@seanwasson9531
@seanwasson9531 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget the Dominic release when he was hitting 21k per hit
@O-O.O-O
@O-O.O-O 7 ай бұрын
And now its nerfed so much that it’s almost unusable
@jarithomas7247
@jarithomas7247 8 ай бұрын
Still waiting for nat 4 devilmons
@EmblemSnake
@EmblemSnake 8 ай бұрын
Right? Getting skill ups for nat 4's is harder than nat 5's lol
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
In com2us own words in the Reloaded Q&A "That would be bad for the game" 😂
@Larkian
@Larkian 8 ай бұрын
@@SeanBGames "that would be bad for our wallets"*
@chova5835
@chova5835 8 ай бұрын
that thumbnail made me click so fast you wouldn't believe
@ftdc2278
@ftdc2278 8 ай бұрын
Making a gacha game without pity system is already a sin, especially for a 10 year old game, this just show how greedy and unreliable they are. They just want to see their game appear in the top revanue chart among other Anime-ish gacha game, proud about it and nothing else.
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 8 ай бұрын
Just increase the summon rate With how much resource the game giving A pity system will only decrease the value of summoning After all, it will be less exicted if you know you will definetly get something To other game, the limited of resource might make the pity sistem is needed, but with how much resource summoner war giving Too easy to get nat5 will make the “ summon “ less interesting
@Larkian
@Larkian 8 ай бұрын
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 that's why you adjust pity to the amount of resources the developers give from events or permanent content on a monthly basis.
@blehche6409
@blehche6409 8 ай бұрын
1. Figure out a revamped 1v1 seige that also is more flexible on attack time 2. Build a variation into proc rate algorithms. I.e. - +/- 15% variance for the 22% vio rate. This means once your comp reaches 37% vio you can't proc anymore until you're back within the variation. Once your comp is under 7% your next vio move is guaranteed. I'm telling you VARIANCE CONTROL is the key to making vio and other procs more balanced and managble while still allowing for some unpredictability. 3. Pity nat5 lnd once you have opened...let's say...400 scrolls. This is about 100 over the rate. Seems like a good compromise. 4. After 7 years and thousands of reapps I've still never hit a quad speed on a reapp. Add a special rare reapp "tool" that allows for a random quad roll. Maybe it's something we only get a few times a year.
@robertv6628
@robertv6628 8 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said 100%
@professordsg
@professordsg 8 ай бұрын
You made a lot of good points. I definitely love to be able to roll back some of my nat 5 skill ups that I don't use anymore.
@xIsantaIx
@xIsantaIx 8 ай бұрын
can we talk about how big SW's file has become? i keep having to delete stuff to update it and recently i couldnt update it cause i had no memory to spare.. the file keeps getting larger lol.. so right now i cant play.. this has happened to me with my previous phone also now i remembered why i stop playing it..
@seanzizman6477
@seanzizman6477 8 ай бұрын
It's funny how they're still afraid of repeating the twins incident.
@christopherfiore6820
@christopherfiore6820 8 ай бұрын
???
@EnhanceEnhance
@EnhanceEnhance 8 ай бұрын
Yeah what is the twins incident?
@Miqimush
@Miqimush 8 ай бұрын
@@EnhanceEnhance When first version of shaina could reduce atb per hit
@timandtannisedwards8728
@timandtannisedwards8728 8 ай бұрын
I still play daily, because of my guild.. but was thinking yesterday after going through the same meta and getting proc'd out.. I would not be upset if SW just deleted there servers. I would probably have a better quality of life :)
@delvinlim3684
@delvinlim3684 8 ай бұрын
For siege, Suggest where guilds can either choose to register a 1vs1 or 1vs1vs1 siege battle day before. And the game can matchmake accordingly.
@hollowzaraki2203
@hollowzaraki2203 8 ай бұрын
They should seriously fucking finally add Nat 4 Devilmons, let them be 3 timea a week available. Im playing for around 10 years and still struggle to get nat 4 to full skilled... obv mainly the new ones
@TheHebiSasuke
@TheHebiSasuke 8 ай бұрын
Yeah man it feels like you cannot play the game. Skillups are making a huge difference and not getting skillups for a certain monster feels bad af. I started skilluping my rigel since december and i got only 6 skillups, virtra is even worse.
@hollowzaraki2203
@hollowzaraki2203 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHebiSasuke same for me on vitra xd still missing 2 skill ups
@VladimirMizich
@VladimirMizich 8 ай бұрын
Balance patches. They are doing their very best... "Sometimes we are testing changes up to 20 minutes before announcing the balance patch." It feels more like they come together, do some small talk, and write down the whole balance patch in 20 minutes before release WITHOUT testing things. They want YOU (us players) to test it. 🤪 Where are they doing the unit testing? In Faimon Hell? LOL
@BronDForbes
@BronDForbes 8 ай бұрын
That’s his fault for spending 20k a year in summoners war 😂
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
And our fault for staying this long 😂
@BluTruly
@BluTruly 8 ай бұрын
​@SeanBGames don't they support your living 😂😂
@abelinkinxvi1735
@abelinkinxvi1735 8 ай бұрын
If they had a feature that allows you to trade in skillups from a chosen monster that either creates amount of devilmon in return to use for a different monster or a skill Bank that would have the monster intended to be skilled up from the transfer. It would be limited in use, like once ever 30 days.
@dirtymightmusic5239
@dirtymightmusic5239 8 ай бұрын
I think the biggest disconnect between g3 and lower players is the units and runes. top g3 player see a def and say this is leo food its unusable. But those guys have like 4 leos each so you completely stomp towers that are leo food. And g3 players have billons of mana so they just rerune their best rune set to leo2, 3 and 4. I am in a g1 guild and I think 2 or 3 players in that guild even own a leo. thats it. And on that rank people dont just switch their best runeset around because mana is tight. So where a g3 player can attack the same def 5 times with only like 2 different teams and the same runes all the time lower people need to have 15 different units for that def and use their 15th best runeset and try to win the same game.
@BluTruly
@BluTruly 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, sounds like a skill issue
@joshportie
@joshportie 8 ай бұрын
Theyre riding it out until complete economic collapse.
@ZbNimble
@ZbNimble 8 ай бұрын
Haha. I wanted to write something mean about the devs, but your comments at the end of the video brought me back to reality. You're a really cool person.
@displacedicon7643
@displacedicon7643 8 ай бұрын
Also I call BS on the testing balance, remember the Samuri buff that was CLEARLY untested...
@ENZEED
@ENZEED 8 ай бұрын
Damn. I wish they could make more 2nd awakening units again. Like the salamander imp and yeti lines just to make them useful.
@pinkfloyd7715
@pinkfloyd7715 8 ай бұрын
That's what we all wanted for so long, but unfortunately it doesn't make them any money to bring 2a's, so they postpone and dismiss it.
@LidrPein
@LidrPein 8 ай бұрын
Com2Us needs to work on communication, that's for sure. I feel like the main issue is that there are basically two separate games at this point. One that the top players are playing and one that us, filthy casuals, are playing. It does very much feel like these different demographics want basically the opposite out of Com2us. I do feel like Com2Us' focus has started to swing back towards the more casual players for a while now. When the whole RTA thing was introduced and the game became an ""esport"" I have felt a very strong push towards making it something much more serious, focusing on making that happen, focusing on the top ranks of the game much more. From my, casual perspective, that is when the game was the worst to play. However, I can totally understand that it is the top players that are "paying the bills" and the game was still sort of fun. Fun enough to keep playing and I have felt like I have no real basis to be really upset with changes made favoring those who pay, rather than those like me, who are paying almost nothing. Obviously due to the heavy RNG in the game this esport thing was never going to happen and that is probably something that Com2Us has accepted now as well, moving their focus back to the more casual players now. As a more casual player I enjoy the game more nowadays than I did a few years ago. I am not exactly sure what the solution would be. This was more just to offer my perspective here. I completely understand the grievances of the person who have made that post, even if I cannot relate as much here, sadly.
@internetdogisbotheredbymyg1424
@internetdogisbotheredbymyg1424 8 ай бұрын
I mean what you want from the shit company that say oh i agreed with not enough pack notices but give 10 shit patch with no care lul. They are so lucky that smw is this popular they are one of the worst skill company i seen in my life
@coldblade666
@coldblade666 8 ай бұрын
I recall when I was trying to report the crit rate bug years ago that it took 5 attempts and back n' forths with com2us to finally listen and investigate it. I still think the "compensation" they gave for a bug that has been in the game since crit animations became a thing was pretty lackluster.
@klaps2463
@klaps2463 8 ай бұрын
“I believe the current balance is satisfactory” Oliver still exists… “I’m afraid of making drastic changes” I’d rather a change in the meta than meaningless “buffs”, especially since the same units have been busted for years (Oliver, Moore, etc.)
@philipesueur9363
@philipesueur9363 8 ай бұрын
Oliver is ok tho
@Mm-dn5gc
@Mm-dn5gc 8 ай бұрын
Oliver is balanced though. Non oliver user here but it sounds like a skill issue.
@klaps2463
@klaps2463 8 ай бұрын
@@Mm-dn5gcI’m a p3 f2p player, so I think my opinion has some weight. Also just check the wr and pr, he’s still busted.
@Mm-dn5gc
@Mm-dn5gc 8 ай бұрын
@@klaps2463 im a g1 f2p player here. Skill issue. Ok in reality i believe oliver is balanced and players are biased to their own boxes. I believe monsters like haegang or fire mk are way stronger than oliver all things considered. Even so it would be hard to nerf without killing them, as it usually happens. Buffing other units to join the meta seems a much better option than nerfing monsters to oblivion.
@klaps2463
@klaps2463 8 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Mm-dn5gcyou’ve probably played much longer than I have, and when did I say to nerf him into the ground? I’m not biased either; I have Haegang and fire MK and wouldn’t mind them nerfed, but Oliver has been meta for like 6+ seasons. It’s really not hard to nerf him: 24 lead, decrease s3 activation chance, etc.
@stickyone11
@stickyone11 8 ай бұрын
TBH the resource roll back for a monster would be actually awesome AF.....theres so many storage units that I wish I hadn't devilmon and 6 star.......Com2us wont ever do it though because they would rather you spend more time and money
@jeromedelabrosse119
@jeromedelabrosse119 8 ай бұрын
most of the issues a top player is facing are issues a regular player will never face and tbh im happy to see com2us are not focusing too much on top player forgeting the 98% remaining player base unlike other games
@kevindiaz-pahz1804
@kevindiaz-pahz1804 8 ай бұрын
The last minute of this video is the same mindset I came back with after I took a year break from SW, I enjoy SW more now then before oddly enough
@Sel_phie
@Sel_phie 8 ай бұрын
One of the biggest thing I would want is, new 3* units. Don’t know when we got the last 3*, but just to see some other 3* when summoning would be so refreshing.
@AlejandroMéndez-j6j
@AlejandroMéndez-j6j 8 ай бұрын
My guild is high P3. Some members still have problems with khmun, skogul, vigor, or stuff like that. Of course we are not top tier, but we are in the higher end. Not everyone knows all the strategies to defeat defenses (even if they were popular 3 years ago). Not everyone has crazy ld4s, ld5s and stuff. Imagine perfect AI agains people who make mistakes. They would never win an attack. Even first skill settings are too strong for some defenses (like those with strippers). Now apply that against players who make mistakes (because not everyone is a pro).
@zaleww5824
@zaleww5824 8 ай бұрын
wow that employee was really disrispectful to the guy. like he could talk like they are planning things and so but they just said no to most things basically. it's so nasty to think that they ignoring top korean players like this.
@Ginger_Dwarf-nc3fg
@Ginger_Dwarf-nc3fg 8 ай бұрын
So he should have lied and said they were planning things when they were not ? if you want more transparency then dont come cry about it when they say no. it might be disappointing but at least you know where to stand. Having played a game who lied about what they will do is more disappointing believe me. you have to remember sw arena is a cash cow product that's all.
@zaleww5824
@zaleww5824 8 ай бұрын
@@Ginger_Dwarf-nc3fg saying no is worse imo. They might do those and it wouldn't be the first time they lie lol. Anyways even if they don't lie he should have at least say we will discuss it, make a poll for what people thinks or idk we will consider it. Talking roundly is more professional especially for a dying game like sw. Like what will they do if whales protest to not whale anymore and so on. Also they fail to get cash from casual players since except not top spenders people don't spend that much on non collab bad new units.
@Ginger_Dwarf-nc3fg
@Ginger_Dwarf-nc3fg 8 ай бұрын
@@zaleww5824 I understand you pov it is ideal but your expectations from Come2us are too high 😢
@whitedynamite3290
@whitedynamite3290 8 ай бұрын
I've often said best idea for siege battle is that you can no longer Switch your runes during Siege battle. Which means we finally get some def wins. G3 99,9% got zero def wins.
@BeefStewGaming
@BeefStewGaming 8 ай бұрын
Lots of great points that I had never thought about
@CanadianAPX
@CanadianAPX 8 ай бұрын
With respect to summoning, one thing I have wanted to see was what Genshin did well. 1) A pity system to guarantee you something eventually. 2) Engraved Summoning could operate similar to their banners. What is wrong with making your gamers happy? From a game design standpoint, there are a lot of feedback from the community and they will not take it into consideration seriously. The communication will be their eventual demise. If they listened to gamers, maybe they could have better continued success (like clash of clans; 70M+ last 30 days). Great game, great concept, bad team, bad communication. To be fair, this 10-year anniversary is very enjoyable and I am loving it (came back from a 5-year hiatus)
@EliteAztriux
@EliteAztriux 8 ай бұрын
Next patch: Secret com2us interview pack. For just 109,99 €
@jhonickvids5303
@jhonickvids5303 8 ай бұрын
i hope com2us make a priority skill for defences this will fix the bad AI for arena def.. other game you can pick a 6 priority skill per turn for the monster to use when they are use in auto...
@Ek549
@Ek549 8 ай бұрын
Seasonal bans would be a great move in pvp content
@TheNolanator1
@TheNolanator1 8 ай бұрын
Communication would be great. I think they need to shift towards a pro user perception. I still don't understand why they have a dynamic camera for enemy monsters in their defense. They never see it... they are not there.... why must I watch a cinematic movie for Riley every time she does her s4 after having 4 moves in 1 turn. It's just stacking frustration on top of frustration.
@Chad_Losey
@Chad_Losey 8 ай бұрын
I got a summoners war ad on this video 😂😂😂
@Jpisop4real
@Jpisop4real 8 ай бұрын
i have fun with this game at this point like built a random two star unit and bring it to rta
@Adrian-ck8lw
@Adrian-ck8lw 8 ай бұрын
They say they won’t do hot fixes because a recently buffed unit being nerfed is inconvenient for players who just invested in that unit. What com2us doesn’t realize is that’s what happens all the time and it mostly affects casual players. They overbuff a unit or release a unit too strong and then nerf it into the ground. With no type of compensation. I would like to see an event where you can extract devilmons from atleast one nat 5 so you can reinvest them.
@murryv23
@murryv23 8 ай бұрын
Seeing this update video makes me happy that i quit a year ago. These issues have been happening for years and they still won't fix them.
@NoName-fv3ot
@NoName-fv3ot 8 ай бұрын
Wait, it's faster doing siege in EU server?! I play in a g3 guild and i was also guild master in another g3 guild and it's exactly slow the same. I also used to watch the fkin screen 12 hours per day. High siege in EU server is exactly the same as everywhere
@Phazix
@Phazix 8 ай бұрын
They spit on their Communitys face by putting those "Balance Patches" out while we still spend so much time and money to their game...
@Deltriguy
@Deltriguy 8 ай бұрын
If they fixed the ai - huge change - all types of viable dungeon teams would be available. Not sure if that would bring any renewed interest, but it definitely wouldn't bring more revenue. Pretty sure that's why they don't touch it.
@brayantpaulino1277
@brayantpaulino1277 8 ай бұрын
i think a resource refund item in sw will actually fix 90% of their problems tbh. if whatever you built could at anytime be ass youd make sure to have an item to refund your resource. make it biweekly farmable item and sell it it and put on event. they already did it with the witcher event
@gdelavit
@gdelavit 8 ай бұрын
i think the stat thing is because of the brit rate bug, that's what they mean by we dont trust our statictics and players mistrust us (rightfully so btw)
@tylerfreeman7868
@tylerfreeman7868 8 ай бұрын
When they wanted to nerf Veronica, Amber suffered (they later buffed her but it wasn't quite what it was before.) When they wanted to nerf Tian Lang, Mo Long suffered (and I'm sure they faced a lot of immediate backlash for this one bc they cut back on the final nerf.) There should be a better way to adjust individual units' skills without negatively impacting the rest of the family.
@arbitraryanecdotes4521
@arbitraryanecdotes4521 8 ай бұрын
Let's be real here, the developers do not care and will never care for 2 main reasons. SW is one of the biggest gatcha games out there, and just like other big names (COD, etc) they don't need to fix anything for people to keep playing. It's a problem that nearly every big name multi-player game in the gaming industry is taking advantage of currently. If you're on top, people will continue to play regardless of what you do. Second, they're capitalizing on the sunk cost fallacy. A lot of people have too much time and money invested in the game to actually quit. They might want to, but they won't because they feel obligated to keep playing. Plus, it's difficult to jump ship to any other gatcha that has been out for years because you'll just be incredibly behind in that one. (I don't care what other games have for pity systems and beginners, your runes or rune equivalents will still be waaaay behind)
@Lp0tr33
@Lp0tr33 8 ай бұрын
We hear the community opinions and here are our balance modifications: 3% damage increase to skill 1.
@itzsummagic
@itzsummagic 8 ай бұрын
read the thingy, and omg its so depressing to see the lack of care in the things c2u said. as much as we all sometimes hate the game with a passion, im sure we all would want it dead. devs seem to have no motivation to do better, and im not sure if we can change that
@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273
@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273 8 ай бұрын
To this point my main issue is boredom and slow progress. I kind of feel I'm stucked in progression for the last 12 months. High level siege requires to be online to keep an eye on the game for two days. But the most important part is that to this point farming is less efficient than just summon and trade dupes for resources. The more you summon, the more you trade. And the gap between people who got access to 70 reapps a month and to quality runes and grinds is just too big at this point. You craft 1000 runes and keep one. Then boom, a dupe popping and you can trade better stuff in less time. And again, pve contents like King Slime or Lab are not interesting, siege is dying for the lack of high siege players because is more like a job than a game at this point, grinding hours to get nothing in return. I do understand that a gacha game is based on microtransactions but at this point the game is going nowhere for most of us.
@MaelZack
@MaelZack 8 ай бұрын
This is good to know because com2us will have to do something else this not gonna be okay for them in long run losing playerbase… then korean players lose faith to share about this … it really says enough
@IDontKnow5830
@IDontKnow5830 8 ай бұрын
Roll back on Hathor would be nice. I did full devilmon her and played her like 2 weeks...
@svenflier6311
@svenflier6311 8 ай бұрын
So sad to see these answers. Let's all do something about it. How about all content creators make the same sort of video telling everyone to not spend money on the game for like a month. To spread the message to Com2us that they should start listening. It's time for a real balance patch
@christopherfiore6820
@christopherfiore6820 8 ай бұрын
Wanting Dark Fairy Queen and Light Vampire Lord... 😢
@kayex7382
@kayex7382 8 ай бұрын
Best LD5s are the friends we made along the way 🎉
@Maghra
@Maghra 8 ай бұрын
Honestly at this point I wish we could just have a big reset. Like give us a sky arena 2 type of game not like chronicles. I feel like they could do so much more with a brand-new game, and it would probably be fun to play a new summoners war again. They probably could have an excuse to try drastic balance changes in a new game vs them barely touching the meta in the current sky arena.
@archidor1944
@archidor1944 8 ай бұрын
so many of the mistakes com2us makes could easily be handled if they communicated properly they are allegedly so afraid of making mistakes and yet they put out terrible balance patches regardless i just want them to commit instead of playing this inbetween game, sure things will always be meta at times if the game is constantly changing those who complain about getting nerfed still know that they will change something anyway
@Buddy330
@Buddy330 8 ай бұрын
Ah yes, 12:69 o'clock. My favorite time of day.
@Mike-dx5jc
@Mike-dx5jc 8 ай бұрын
Cant wait to watch this when im on break, who knew Id have a nice side of Tea with my food 😂😂
@NIK-yb1ko
@NIK-yb1ko 8 ай бұрын
I think the siege duration isn't a problem. If you can't manage time for siege, just join lower guilds. Even in some low g3 guilds (Asia) they don't require you to be online all the time, just log in and do 10 battles during break or after work time. It's your choice to be sweaty in siege not c2u fault. But ye siege meta nowadays is wierd af. I suggest giving siege the special towers from tour where we can ban a unit of choice. No need buff/nerf and make siege even more strategic.
@kaylorkuek6334
@kaylorkuek6334 8 ай бұрын
I mean they could make it to where instead of 18 hours straight of game times, maybe they can set it into shorter period of times but few times a day, maybe 2hrs n twice or 3 times a day for 2 days .
@madeformario
@madeformario 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like they're really afraid of making novel changes to the game tbh. The rates thing makes no sense though. I get that adding a new item to a loot table will shift probabilities, but it's also not exactly rocket science either to calculate it, it's the kind of thing you need to learn how to do once.
@frankthefreedom244
@frankthefreedom244 8 ай бұрын
I mean the QoL we had in the last 6-8 months were good. PvE is kinda the best we ever had with maybe gems/grinds as the sole exception. PvP wise arena is ok the offense/defense meta is interesting to watch with maybe Camilla being slightly over use, interserver arena are fine they just take some time to do. Siege I never did high end siege but I can understand the frustration, however players that are serious at that level will always min/max and create the same defense for 1 tower unless com2us change their rules, look at overwatch first few competitive league with just healer and tanks blizzard tried to do some buff and nerf it didn't work so they put a set amount of role per team. They can already do it with special bans or special tower I don't understand why it's not available outside of tournament. RTA grind is a frustrating experience with the luck involved, the meta is, I think, one of the more diverse one we had. But with the amount of monsters available there should be an option to ban 1 monster like in tournament.
@pyjama5519
@pyjama5519 8 ай бұрын
i think the game is past their peak they not gonna do major changes
@krazykid1428
@krazykid1428 8 ай бұрын
I think the amount of balance changes are okay and the frequency is decent, maybe could be a little more but still not too bad. I think they just need to work on more meaningful ones. I've started playing Raid and they just released a balance patch after many many months maybe even over a year without any. It contained 2 buffs, one of which was just them fixing a monsters skill. I think the line was increased skills damage. So summoners war balance could be worse. However, one thing i think raid do much better is the skill AI setting. Pve, pvp, bosses, defence etc you can set for every round of each stage a skill priority. Which skill to open with, which skill to use first whenever its available etc. Why after 10 years summoners war doesn't have that and we just get a def first skill only of one monster. Some things com2us do with QoL etc is quite good. Some they really are lacking when they should be ahead after 10 years.
@ryanchristenson1059
@ryanchristenson1059 8 ай бұрын
Cross validation in gotcha games should almost need to be required by law
@00J-Tone
@00J-Tone 8 ай бұрын
I've been on this game for 9 years. I was a casual spender of about a couple hundred every month now at most i spend for the daily packs and i've been f2p for a couple years in between. The game got so much better than it was before and I'm not as jaded as many others. My shortlist of things id like to see which i think at this point is plenty fair are multiple new 2a units every year. Rune rebalance and by that i mean make everything a 2 set. Last thing is up the ld rates to the same as mystical rates and it wont make me sad if its even higher than that tho ill settle for mystical rates. I did the math and in theory if you are f2p and do everything you can acquire an ld 5 about every 2 years. They add about 12+ new ones in that time. Idc about pity i feel if they did add one they would make the rates worse to justify it but 1 in 200 is that so bad for their bottom line?
@lloyd1559
@lloyd1559 8 ай бұрын
Siege: the real problem i think is the points increased time to time. If they change to something like numbers of win, or def/attack monster survived/alive, it would be good for casual players. And how about increasing from 3 to 4 teams and let us play like a football match (attack deeper layer gain more points, and even more for HQ), and some constraints like: all attributes monster for double point, all support tower, or buffed monster every siege battle,... Balance patch: as SeanB said, should remains the same. too short make casuals player can not catch up the meta and waste resources, and should be explained why this monter get nerfed/buffed (like e7 does until now)
@BluTruly
@BluTruly 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like a skill issues, keep farming
@lloyd1559
@lloyd1559 8 ай бұрын
@@BluTruly keep farming? build a monster just not about runes. Or you keep farming devilmon by master card? lol. dont comment stupidly like that
@BluTruly
@BluTruly 8 ай бұрын
@lloyd1559 like I said skill issues
@Ako-LP
@Ako-LP 8 ай бұрын
Man, putting aside the rta memes and bad updates, I love this game and it hurts me seeing stuff like this
@RichardWeir-vx4pd
@RichardWeir-vx4pd 8 ай бұрын
There seems to be an awful lot of noise and assumptions being made from an unofficial and as far as I can see unconfirmed interview with com2us. I really hope com2us communicate as worried people are putting own opinions against already a translate interview. And putting words in com2us mouth.
@heresy0615
@heresy0615 8 ай бұрын
the dev team seems confused about the direction of each update of the game they almost didnt answer anything
@ariefputraart
@ariefputraart 8 ай бұрын
Despite all of that, we're still here 10 years later. In conclusion Com2us is like our toxic girlfriend.
@hideathwing
@hideathwing 8 ай бұрын
1:1:1 sieges could be "somewhat" fixed if you didnt see the names of the enimie guild I guess? So team upping gets a bit harder, also but this is a little controversial, only emote while the Siege lasts, and you can chat afterwards for a bit ? All in all getting 2v1ed in Siege is just frustrating for everyone and anyone so I think something has to be done about it even though I cant think of a solution immediatly
@AndTheWhale7
@AndTheWhale7 8 ай бұрын
Sad to say I'm slowly quitting the game :C
@gabriellim2650
@gabriellim2650 8 ай бұрын
just lock the runes in siege don't allow changing of runes and don't allow dup monster defense.
@Shun13fx
@Shun13fx 8 ай бұрын
I think if you habe skill ups on a monster and then use that monster to upgrade another monster from the same family that the skill ups transfer.
@chova5835
@chova5835 8 ай бұрын
I maxed skilled my wind mermaid for seige then it got nerfed. if i try to feed her to the dark one it will be 1 skill up all of them wont transfer so that would be wasted.
@Mylifestoriesmaybe
@Mylifestoriesmaybe 8 ай бұрын
​@@chova5835 Wind mermaid is still defense meta
@alexdavis4043
@alexdavis4043 8 ай бұрын
Is there actual proof that C2Us said this? In the Reddit post there is even a disclaimer "(There may be some interpretation and translation errors due to the passage of time, and since my disappointment could affect the accuracy of the text, the actual responses may differ.)" This is crazy unprofessional and I cannot see a world where a company making as much money as C2Us allows any of the above statements to be made.
@eduardocorral6605
@eduardocorral6605 8 ай бұрын
People try so hard as to what they are aiming for the game. They get frustrated if the outcome of what they aim didn't go their way. I'd say acknowledge the people who also have the same aim and bested you. And of course you have to have tolerance for rng in terms of procs and summoning. It's what you've known it the 1st place the day you play sw. Cheers!
@X3mn5
@X3mn5 8 ай бұрын
I dont think g3/g2 siege have this problem but on g1 sometimes you win before 1/2 you guildie have the chance to atk make not everyone get the reward.( I hope they reworked siege battle).
@exia0616
@exia0616 8 ай бұрын
I feel com2us doesnt even have a PROPER QA TEAM, if they have a proper QA team i feel like a good chunk of the bugs that the players find will be quashed before even getting released. Though i think com2us just skimps out on paying employees, why bother making a QA team if the players can test it for us hen just give compensation if something goes bad.
@bennewton7555
@bennewton7555 8 ай бұрын
You could be com2uas unofficial spokesman. I mean you are com2us right lol
@stickyone11
@stickyone11 8 ай бұрын
imagine spending ANY money on a product that is shit, then complaining to the makers of the product and them telling you they arn't going to do anything....AND YOU STILL KEEP SPENDING MONEY ON THAT SAME PRODUCT!?!?!?! You literally perpetuate the problem.....you complain about things and then the next day spend half of your paycheck on this mobile game.....Com2us wont actually do anything until they HAVE to....how every company is ffs, if they lose enough money they will be forced to make changes....its basic knowledge..
@aaronmartinez5607
@aaronmartinez5607 8 ай бұрын
It’s blatant that the owners of the company feel they don’t have to give a shit. So we can continue to play. Just nobody spend money and let’s see if they continue to not give a shit.
@zhangzhiguang8948
@zhangzhiguang8948 8 ай бұрын
Someone mentioned before, before seige start. Had a 30-36 units prep selected and runes locked. This way, seige will be different entirely played.
@SeanBGames
@SeanBGames 8 ай бұрын
My wr gonna be 50% 😂
@xYarbx
@xYarbx 8 ай бұрын
It's really disheartening to hear that they think the balance patches are good in their opinion and it's maybe due to them valuing all levels of play equally. When and I am not saying this in elitist tone it should be the best players that get the most say. Why? Because they know the game the best and how to exploit the systems. Everyone can become better players in a sense of knowing the systems and using them to their advantage. Not everyone can have access to all the units. So making sure the units that people have access to have purpose is an utmost importance to the health of the game. Also it's really weird that they want to be seen as "e-sport" but yet skip the concerns of top players so candidly when it's those same players they need to have competing in their events. IDK if this individual being interviewed was a suite, dev or part of the community team but they need to change their attitude and realize that without players they don't have a job.
@KinitVumar
@KinitVumar 8 ай бұрын
tbh maybe seige should be 1 day for all ranks, the main problem is that seige is global so there's always going to be a region screwed over from time zone if its 12 hours, majority of top tier players are pay to win who also need to go to work lol
@nvanattia
@nvanattia 8 ай бұрын
Com2Us have put themselves in a precarious position. What is good for the top 5% or so of players is not good for the rest in a lot of ways. Probably the best way they can improve the game is to have the AI focus more on S3 and S2 skills over what seems to be a random selection. A lot of similar games do not necessarily have this AI issue. They have shown that they can do these types of changes on a specific case by case basis, so why can't they do that more generally?
@haydenho2763
@haydenho2763 8 ай бұрын
It is sad how com2us has started to fear community backlash more and more
@colton6154
@colton6154 8 ай бұрын
Com2us does not care about their player base, they just want our money. Let's band together and stop giving it to them until they start to show they appreciate/need us.
@l.l.2491
@l.l.2491 8 ай бұрын
I think 3 changes would help the game extremly. 1. 1 LD5 scroll for eveeybody who playes the game over 100 days. The reason behind the 100 days is that the bots cant farm LD5 so easily 2. You can set the skills for pve. Then you can just focus on runes and bud crazy teams without stupid ai runing everything 3. Once a week you can reroll a rune and set 2 times which stats gets upgraded. Like the rune event. I think this would help the casual player extremly and would reduce some problems
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