Two hours of dynasties falling apart | Collapse Marathon

00:00:34 - Chicago Bulls
00:13:38 - Houston Rockets
00:28:27 - Dallas Cowboys
00:44:50 - Los Angeles Lakers
00:59:39 - Detroit Red Wings
01:15:48 - Tiger Woods
01:27:47 - Anderson Silva
01:43:35 - Chicago Blackhawks
If we've learned anything from our series "Collapse," it's that sports fans enjoy watching something successful turn into ash. Sometimes it's out of jealousy, others it's more simply hatred, but it's always because we're curious to understand how the pieces that made a franchise great moved on.
Players aging, front office mismanagement, bad luck - a lot goes into a franchise collapsing. But when the team reached a dynastic status, the fall feels even more extreme. We're here to unpack those dynasties that fell apart in our first-ever "Collapse" marathon. Enjoy.
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[@hhtptai]

[shakes fist in the air] BRING BACK COLLAPSE, YOU COWARDS!

[@ethan_hines_]

AGREED

[@episodesglow]

Give it 5 years for the Mavs Collapse video

[@BennyintheBoothPodcast]

Yes pls

[@TheSamps0n]

Untitled too

[@hhtptai]

@@TheSamps0n bro I've been waiting five years for a new Untitled 😂

[@austinemms9772]

Please do more Collapse videos!!!!! There’s still so many teams and sports icons that need to be covered!

[@SkidMan_Jurej]

The Patriots collapse in the years since their last Super Bowl win

[@fortynights1513]

@@SkidMan_JurejWe are far enough removed from 2018 that a good video on that topic could be made.

[@Puvwilmo00]

@@SkidMan_Jurejespecially now that Belichick is gone, this would be a good one

[@Xlc_Royal17]

They should do the 1980’s Sixers, 98 padres, 07 Rockies, 2010 saints, 2016 cardinals and etc

[@jetfan925]

​@@Xlc_Royal172016 *Cubs

[@jamesthemaniac3293]

Still desperately need the post-Bird Celtics

[@fortynights1513]

Would start after 1986 (that was Bird’s last title I believe). They were a good team for another six or seven years (essentially through the first post-Bird season), then they fell off a cliff over 93-94 to the end of that decade. Would make a good gradual collapse.

[@DrBankwalker]

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[@jtaco4101]

​@@fortynights1513they were in the finals again in 87 and 88 lost to the pistons in a series where every game was pretty close. I'd say it's really started in 89 with the bulls starting to emerge.

[@jessedellross3245]

This is the best series you got on the channel. Please start doing more

[@jpmnky]

The thing about the 2020 Last Dance series that most of us didn’t care for was the hate towards Jerry Krause. Who of course was long dead and couldn’t defend himself. And even worse his widow was booed the night Krause was honored in Chicago. I’m no Krause defender. But all that was pretty low. Especially hbreakimg the heart of an old widow.

[@ahogg5960]

And completely shielded Jerry Reinsdorf from a lot of warranted criticism. Wasn't it Reinsdorf who ordered Krause to break the band up and rebuild? Seems to be The Last Dance wasn't just about Jordan solidifying his legacy - it was also a good opportunity for Reinsdorf to do the same and paint up Krause as the devil because he's dead and can't defend himself.

[@mongoslade277]

​@ahogg5960 Yes it was Reinsdorf. People don't understand that Jerry Reinsdorf was the owner, not Krause. Reinsdorf was cheap. He broke that team up

[@Mr.JayDice]

That display done by the fans to his wife really highlights people’s lack of critical thinking/perspective. Kudos to the players and front office for their sustained dominance. Granted though MJ did have final creative control on what made it to the public.

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

Booing his widow was definitely low, but anyone pretending that The Last Dance created or was some major amplifier of hate towards Krause is just wrong. He was being booed when they won championships.

[@One.Zero.One101]

Did you want the players to refrain from criticism because he's dead? That would have been even weirder. All these players hated Krause, the documentary would have looked very weird if all the criticisms were omitted. Seriously people just complain without thinking about their critique. Imagine a segment talking about contracts and money and tiptoeing around Krause and his feud with Phil Jackson and the players. That would have been weird and that's why you people aren't producers and directors.

[@Master-Debator]

Bring back more of these collapse videos! Here’s some fresh ideas- collapse of Powerhouse football programs (Nebraska), the Spurs recent bad years, the Oakland A’s of the past decade, or even a UFC type collapse like Tony Ferguson

[@rrickydanby]

I’d like new videos instead of these super cuts. Still watching this super cut though 😂

[@SecretBaseSBN]

we love collapse and definitely want to make more, it's tricky at the moment because of the lift each episode is but figured this was a nice way to at least breathe some life into the series especially for newer audiences, fingers crossed

[@rrickydanby]

@@SecretBaseSBN I love Secret Base and I know these videos take so much work. As a matter of a fact if you need a research guy to help get more videos off the ground, I’d love to be part of the team! My resume: my brain exclusively holds useless sports trivia.

[@fortynights1513]

@@SecretBaseSBNWas a good series of videos and it’d be cool to see it come back. Not a team that won it all, but the 01 Mariners collapse was pretty much my introduction to this channel. If you ever do bring back collapse, two of my suggestions would be the Raiders and 49ers after their last championships to date (1983 and 1994 respectively).

[@BenchForAllTheMarbles]

​@@SecretBaseSBNThe 2018 Patriots would be a perfect new episode. Considering the fallout after Gronk's first retirement, Brady's departure from New England, and the sheer offensive incompetence that led Bill Belichick to become the losingest head coach in NFL history (tied) and having Robert Kraft blackball him.

[@ParsnipPizza]

@@BenchForAllTheMarbles Blackball my ass. He wanted to stay GM when GM Bill was killing the Patriots. He did not deserve to keep his job if he was gonna demand to stay GM

[@ericbaker9007]

So many good options: Miami after 2005 NBA Finals Notre Dame after Lou Holtz Yankees after 2009 World Series Nebraska after Tom Osborne Pistons after Bad Boys Celtics after their last 80s title

[@PrinceofDrill]

Can you really count the Yankees because they only won two championships in the 2000s. They were literally at the beginning and end of the decade, lol. I love the Yanks, but winning in 2000 and then not again until 2009 isn't a collapse.

[@macnsteez3938]

Nice... Collapse is one of the best sports things on youtube, itll be cool to watch em all again

[@678rwhp]

That 90s astroturf was brutal. Every video I see with it in it out just looks like it's hooking cleats and twisting knees.

[@ianfitchett2839]

I NEEDED this today 😊

[@IIILEMONIII]

I’m gonna need to see a collapse for my Broncos. Tebow-mania to the Manning era to No Fly Zone to nearly a decade of mediocrity.

[@vince01lp]

I love "Collapse", and I think it should resume. I have a good one : Denver Broncos from 2012-now. First part, 2012-2015, in which the team legend was hired to restore the franchise and the very first signing was one of the legendary QBs, and with a success of four consecutive division titles with at least 12 wins - including SB 50 win - then the collapse began, with 16 different starting QBs & five head coaches.

[@Kennyisdarkvanilla]

Still haven’t gotten a Seahawks/Legion of Boom collapse video.

[@dafuq9255]

They weren’t a dynasty bud

[@midniitemonsta]

@@dafuq9255*They don’t have to be to get 1.. this video specifically is about “dynasties” but the jets got 1 n do you remember their dynasty?.. me either bud*

[@YankeesFan0620]

I love the Collapse Series so much!!! Praying we get more episodes!!!!!!!! I know baseball probably isn't the most exciting sport but there are alot of recent ones; The 2015 Kansas City Royals The 2005 Chicago WHite Sox The 2010-2012 Texas Rangers The Moneyball Oakland Athletics The 2016 Chicago Cubs and eventually... The current Houston Astros!!!!!!!!!

[@keatonvarone2839]

The 2011 Red Sox weren’t a dynasty but love to see y’all make a video about that collapse

[@Adrian-uq4yb]

Crazy how we might be seeing a similar video on The Warriors in a couple years.

[@BAMFshee]

What's happened with the Warriors sort of reminds me of the Collapse video SB did on the Marlins (not part of this compilation), where they won a championship in the middle of their Collapse (in this case, 2022). If, in another couple of years, they haven't turned things around, I could very easily see them as candidates for a similar video.

[@darrendoyle568]

The 2020 Lakers need a collapse episode as well as the 2019 Raptors

[@CobiOnTheRocks]

The late 90s Rockets and 2010s Nets had one thing in common: think a bunch of older vets will win you a title (they had no chance)

[@Dc-dp6go]

Y'all need to do CFB dynasty's

[@12packersfan]

As a Bucks fan watching these makes me verrrrrry nervous because we are following the collapse pattern perfectly

[@fortynights1513]

If Dame and Giannis ended up on the same team six or seven years earlier could they have done better than they did this past year in reality?

[@whips8]

@@fortynights1513I think they would win 1-2 rings if they were together for that long, if they put a nice supporting cast together. And I’m not a Bucks fan.

[@fortynights1513]

@@whips8I could see that. Also, out of curiosity: I hear people say that Jrue Holiday is a good perimeter defender, how is Dame defensively? Just curious because that’s the guy he was supposedly replacing, and I generally don’t hear people talk about defense for most guards.

[@hirkballs]

My dude...yall got Doc as Head Coach. The collapse is inevitable and the only question is at what point this past season was the beginning of the descent.

[@mayojarr6243]

The bucks won once. They already been collapsing. I mean, 1st round exit after winning it all. Yikes. Middleton is still on the team. Bigger yikes. Doc rivers is the coach. It's so cooked

[@anthonycampbell4532]

Wow. Love this ❤

[@dragonchr15]

I can’t imagine the amount of work needed to make these types of videos..:.the research is one thing, but all the pics, articles, clips and effects….😮

[@XandateOfHeaven]

I will defend Jerry Krause and Reinsdorf's decision to blow up the Bulls when they did from a business perspective, and I will die on this hill. A bunch of players were going to have their contracts renewed, and they were going to be able to demand more salary because of the sixth championship, but at the same time, they were going to be in the downswing of their careers. Teams make the mistake all the time by buying valuable players when they're most expensive but past their prime (see the late 90s Rockets). We also know with hindsight that most of the team wasn't going to be able to perform at the same level. Rodman was out of the league in two years. Ron Harper and Luc Longley were out in three. Pippen lasted a while, but he never got above 15 ppg again, and they already knew he was having back problems. Toni Kukoc was really the only one who hit his peak later on. MJ was not in his prime, though by any other standard he was still an excellent player, we know for a fact that they couldn't build a team around MJ in his late 30s because it didn't work in Washington.

[@mongoslade277]

At least you know you're by yourself on this one. If that Bulls team came back for the 1999 season, I believe the Spurs would've beat them in the NBA Finals. Now you have your excuse to rebuild. Now they've got the stench of breaking up a team that won 3 championships in a row. The owner was cheap and the GM was in his feelings. Not a good look

[@zlinedavid]

And Phil and Jerry Krause were not going to co-exist, And Phil was what kept the machine oiled. Think about it….he had to get MJ, Pippen and Rodman to buy in. MJ was good with Phil, but Scottie and Worm were two notorious head cases. The team would have imploded anyway if they tried bringing the players back without Phil.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

@@mongoslade277 The Jerry's May have been cheap, but that's just business. MJ was never a good manager so he never understood, but it doesn't make sense financially to pay maximum price for players at the end of their career. MJ thinks they could have offered a one year contract to everyone to compete in 99, but he thinks that because he was the star and paid well. Scottie, and some of the others probably wouldn't have taken that deal because there was too high a chance they would be injured and lose out of higher contracts. Maybe they had a chance in 99, but we know essentially for a fact that would have lost to the Kobe/Shaq Lakers in 00. Not because Kobe and Shaq are better, but because they were old.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

@@zlinedavid Even MJ was a bit of a head case. Always beefing with his team mates, leaving to play basketball, not really buying in to team play until Phil came along.

[@mongoslade277]

@XandateOfHeaven Good point about Pippen taking a 1 year deal. That team never did right by him. He wasn't doing that

[@cypher_p8567]

I've never needed something more in my life

[@Trinity5722]

Peace Spectre! Great Work! Nice lyric and beat selection with great song listing order. Keep Going! I Love It!

[@ShynyMagikarp]

Double Collapse: The Asecent, Descent, Reascension, and Redescension of Terunofuji, a sumo legendary story

[@josephkempinger]

Dude the music in these is always fire

[@SmokeyFox23]

Don’t forget untitled too. Bring those back too 🙏🏽. I be watching the hockey and baseball ones even tho idk anything about em lol

[@jetfan925]

I would love to see the Big 3 or 4 men's tennis players throughout the late 00s til the mid 2010s. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray.

[@joelman1989]

The bulls trading Caruso for Giddy as this video drops is poetic

[@CharmCityGamer]

More Collapse please! Oh and bring back Untitled!!!

[@antoniotrivelloni8191]

Not really a "dynasty" per se, but I'd love a Collapse video on the 2014 Lions and how it all fell apart

[@jacksonbianca2231]

U guys need to bring this back man

[@MF_DOOMer]

There have been so many Dynasties. You can make this into a series. NFL has like 10 of them. College has a bunch. Especially if you are including Mini-Dynasties. One of my favorites although they were never a Dynasty was those Colts Teams of the 2000s.

[@fortynights1513]

Colts could’ve been a dynasty if the Patriots weren’t around with what the NFC was like that that time.

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

Ohhhh, yeahhhh…The 2000’s Colts *DEFINITELY* qualify. They were a juggernaut, *that constantly* had to deal with *the Patriots and Steelers.* 2 Teams *I CANNOT* *F---G STAND* with all my being. *I am not a Colts Fan,* but, I rooted for them over the *f---g Steelers and Patriots…* *Back in the day,* when my *Raiders SUCKED,* we had a few options… *Instead of dealing with the AGONY* of the 2004-2009 Raiders, *we could* “NOT” watch, and root for the f---ng Chargers🤢, Steelers 🥴, Patriots 😡, or the *Colts.* 😇 Man, the 2000’s *WERE NOT* a good decade for Football. 😰

[@MF_DOOMer]

@@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ AFC was ridiculous during that era

[@MarLikeIt]

The Clippers didn't learn from Houston's Collapse

[@TiffanyRobinson-v7o]

Please do more Collapse videos

[@DTHumphrys]

Please bring back collapse and do the Patriots finally. Time to do that episode now that we're about 5 years removed from it. It would be such a great episode because of the rebuilding in between both dynasties.

[@איתןשי]

Probably the best collapse story ever is the story of the West Indies cricket team - in the 70s and 80s they had what was probably the most dominant run of a sports team ever led by legends like Viv Richards, Malcolm Marshall, Michael Holding, Clive Lloyd etc., but they lost it all in a long drawn-out decline which they have yet to fully recover from... A second collapse for them can actually be traced in T20s from the Darren Sammy days to missing the 2023 World Cup

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

Those cowboys teams should have won so much more with such stacked teams.

[@JackFlash771]

I also nominate post-Fergie Manchester United for one of these. No soccer represented here yet.

[@Amm17ar]

Make New Collapse Videos? Nah, just smush the old ones together and put it out. Videos are obviously insanely awesome, but Id love to see more Collapse videos, Untitled and stuff. Im not sure why the channel moved away from such fan favourite series.

[@evolancer211]

Why did Canadian oil affect the NHL? Thought the NHL dealt in USD

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Da lady dat did the Houston Collapse almost made me do the same listen to a her sweetie voice ❤

[@HunterSteed]

Thank you

[@SaadKhan-kd6sz]

That seabrook double post will forever haunt me… what if

[@iceill3425]

Good stuff!!!

[@xkptwistblazex]

Collapse Ideas: MLB: Jeter's Yankees 2006 Mets 2015 KC Royals Post Pujols Cardinals NFL: Antonio Brown - Individual Legion of Boom Seahawks Falcons Post 28-3 85 Bears Jim Kelly's Bills NBA: 80s Celtics Post Big Three (TD, TP, MG) Spurs MMA: Connor McGregor - Individual Other: University of Nebraska Football post Tom Osborne (understand why college programs are harder for Collapse, more systematic overview)

[@dereklee8103]

Best stuff on the channel, and the reason you have my sub. Bring it back!

[@emiljeong5421]

How about the Chicago hawks hockey team of the 2010’s?

[@RandomBurner]

Still weird that the whole Bulls team was still intact after Tim Floyd was hired but was dismantled after the lockout ended

[@saintfredoo]

Just in time for work

[@Monk-Amani.]

That's life.

[@klizzard1691]

Please make more

[@tylersoto976]

I mean how about just make a new collapse. 16’ cubs, 16’ falcons, 02’ angels, 12’ bulls, 90s bills, 10’ bears…I could go on

[@terencejones22]

Dynasties my boy reading is fundamental honestly

[@TarmaanProductions]

can you do one on the 2019 nationals

[@joebeuselinck6325]

I wanna see some more Untitled, myself.

[@InvaderCraftBR]

krause knew ball.

[@StephenThomas-gh7rp]

Phil Jackson- I didn’t have a relationship with management also Phil Jackson dating the daughter lol

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Swaggy P Yee!!

[@CaliKidd1001]

Jerry Krause let his pride get in the way thought it was because of him lol knowing Jordan Pippen and Phil Jackson was the trio that kept the team together and the reason it’s 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 Chicago!!! And don’t get me started on Jerry Jones and the Cowboys lol

[@aaronjackson9385]

Jerry Krause couldnt do anything without the blessing of Jerry Reinsdorf.

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Blood I spilled my Bomb when u said Swaggy P n den i started crying w❤ Cuz

[@NiceBoysWin]

Jeff, I now would like to be referred to as “Formally Known As an Uber Rideshare Driver/Partner”. 😂🤣😭☠️

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Jones is an egomaniac 3710 is funny

[@JJwestoakland1200]

I read dat book Boys will b Boys but Irvin got hurt n dat 1st drive vs Carolina

[@Fresh0710]

Were the Rockets really a dynasty? I think you need at least 3 championships in a 6-8 year span

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Jones is an egomaniac

[@timothywade9618]

What is the next team that will covered in a "Collapse" video next?

[@jomei63]

For people who recommend new videos about collapses... Don't worry SB Nation don't notice... I asked many ideas in the past and no one was taken 😔

[@rosshugecaulk]

Chael Sonnen is the undisputed undefeated best champion of the UFC ever

[@AlonsoRules]

The Bulls are so irrelevant now that people still reminisce on events from 25 years ago

[@ethanroy4978]

Collapse of the Broncos

[@adrianmcardle85]

How bout them cowboys

[@lmxample]

Background song of Minute 5:55 plzzzz

[@SlugCult718]

The cowboys were my favorite collapse. I hate the cowboys. Leon Lett could be okay sometimes. Just because sometimes he would hilariously do things to help his opponents win.

[@JJwestoakland1200]

I ❤ dat lady voice I think het name is Clara n i saw a video of her she is pretty cute too❤ I could listen ta her voice all night!!

[@luisguillermojg]

Bring back Untitled please!

[@thatruthtae]

Mane them Kobe final years was sad to see ..

[@keilow5500]

We gotta get warriors collapse I feel like we are watching it in real time 😢

[@vvnnation]

phil, i suggest you get your foreign policy advice from someone other than your pal ben, who swiftly dismisses complex regional geopolitical issues as "kremlin propaganda" before stating that every country wants to join NATO because after WWII it's RUSSIA that never left! he makes this unfounded claim with a straight face while logged in from the only country in the world with over 1,000 military bases all over the globe, including in japan and germany, which they NEVER LEFT SINCE WWII. the sheer lack of self-awareness is astounding.

[@scottaznavourian3720]

Ill give maxwell a pass on that one. Thats just utter trash to say something like that

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Jerry Jones thought dat he was Al Davis

[@jonlamenza4121]

Biggest collapse for me growing up was Mike Tyson

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Krause did hook it up af😮Shaq n Penny beat Dem. Kerr did da same thing n gotDurant

[@cavy369]

Lance Armstrong?

[@MrEOM41]

I think the Bulls had the worst collapse

[@timdecoste-es3de]

Want the post championship Washington nats

[@JJwestoakland1200]

Why would U trade 3 folksfa Rose

[@dominique8662]

Everyone acts like it was 10000% all mj by himself

[@MrMega360noscope]

They put together all those who fell apart

[@JorgeRodriguez-ih8ub]

Poetic

[@derrrick7759]

Hence the name- Collapse.

[@DearLordItsLookinAtMePutItAway]

​@@derrrick7759Congratulations. None of us would have been able to know this information without you.

[@TheRuck86]

Can y’all bring this back please?

[@NRG349]

Easily my favorite series from this channel.

[@hyperbison]

This and Untitled. The Barry Sanders one was my introduction to this channel.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

​@@hyperbisonI'm baffled they didn't do Untitled - Carmelo Anthony

[@fortynights1513]

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303When they were doing those videos I don’t think he’d formally retired yet. Though he most certainly had left his prime. At least he won in college though.

[@julianbell9161]

SB is trying to signal bad vibes to this Boston Celtics team lmao

[@Nick_Simpson007]

Bias cause I’m a fan of them but I’d like to see a breakdown of the Angels and Ducks collapses. Both teams were at or near the top of their sports in the 2000’s and now are at the bottom in both their play and in relevancy the LA/Orange County area.

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

Yeah, same. Been a fan of both of them since I was a little kid…

[@CBum-jy6jf]

Ideas for Future Videos: - Late 2010s Rockets (Harden Analytics ISO Ball Rockets) - 2018 Red Sox (how the Triple Bs completely dissolved into mediocrity) -Pats Dynasty (post 2018-19 era, the dying days of the dynasty) -LA Kings (2012-14, How the kings crashed into instant free fall following improbable titles) - Raptors (2019, how the Raptors went from the fun guy to an endless funk of failure) - Spurs (how the Spurs completely sputtered aftee years of stellar dominance) -Knicks (how Melos Knicks melted following a magical 2013 season) -Seahawks (how the Seahawks lost the legion of boom) - Wizards (how John Walls Wizards withered into endless pergatory) -Nationals (following 2019, how the Nats immediately fell into nothingness after a stunning triumph) -76ers, (how the process Sixers pushed themselves out of their seemingly endless potential) -Capitals mid to late 2010s (how the Capitals went from annual contenders to catastrophe

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

*ALL* great ideas. 👍

[@stringsgalore]

As a Seahawks fan, I’ve suffered enough thank you! But this is still great!!

[@CBum-jy6jf]

@@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ appreciate it man 👊

[@CBum-jy6jf]

@@stringsgalore i feel it bro, jets fan over here😭 I do envy the highs yall have had in a way tho. my first year watching was 2012 and I’ve been subjected to 12 years of bottom feeder football

[@deemz312]

​@@stringsgaloretry being a Bears fan, bro

[@reynevan26]

Dang, straight to my falling asleep playlist.

[@fortynights1513]

A collapse suggestion: Do the Raiders after 1983, and the Niners after 1994.

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

There’s a Raiders collapse after their Super Bowl appearance.

[@fortynights1513]

@@baxatakbaxatak2014They did do 02 of course, and that was a good video.

[@dynad00d15]

the post-Montana/Rice era was brutal.

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

@@dynad00d15 Ahh, yes, days of Erickson, Nolan the Younger, and Singletary.

[@Kennyisdarkvanilla]

And Seahawks Legion of Boom era.

[@125pounder]

Bring this back please. Without this I wouldn’t even know you guys, collapse was a great series and hope you all listen to your fan base and bring back a new season !!

[@WFM]

So many teams that can still be done. The World Series Cubs and the Legion of Boom are at the top of my personal list of most wanted teams to see

[@KingKrakenSports]

I wanna see more collapse episodes. Love these

[@LuisGaite30]

Bring back Collapse! Few suggestions: Patriots since Brady left, Bad Boys Pistons, Raptors and their one-year wonder of Kawhi, Red Sox and Cubs since their WS wins, Broncos since Peyton's farewell

[@joelsterling1445]

And if Florida Panthers loses tonight to Edmonton, it might be a possible Collapse story in the future

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

@@joelsterling1445Dammit. *It didn’t happen…* 😅😂😒😞

[@LuisGaite30]

@@joelsterling1445 Didn't happen. Also I hope our guy Seth is writing one for the Warriors' Dynasty.