Secrets Behind The HPF 1000 RWHP Daily Driven BMW M3 Race Engines Part Four

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@BRTHLIT
@BRTHLIT 10 жыл бұрын
I have two BMW E46 M3s, they're the best cars on the planet hands down, with proper maintenance. I am rebuilding the engine on an S54, thinking about sending the short block to these guys to have them do some of that SICK work on it. Phenomenal job guys. Always impress me!
@coltenW1
@coltenW1 11 жыл бұрын
props to the machinist he seems like he knows what he's doing.. much better machinist than i know of in my area
@David-yh5po
@David-yh5po 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video with us.
@K31TH3R
@K31TH3R 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary, thanks for getting upclose and personal with these extreme engines, lots of top tier information to absorb here. A series like this justifies youtubes existence for me.
@Thr33.Sid3z
@Thr33.Sid3z 11 жыл бұрын
Brian is definitely doing my ej207!!! His attention to detail and precision is exactly what my Type-R needs!
@mernst6
@mernst6 10 жыл бұрын
what a perfectionist this Brian is
@moterdude1959
@moterdude1959 12 жыл бұрын
The part about not oiling the rings I have never heard of I always oiled them heavily well learned something new. Great videos
@thedolenorway
@thedolenorway 11 жыл бұрын
This level of craftsmanship and attention to detail is a beautiful thing! Thanks for sharing!
@usmanmalik4845
@usmanmalik4845 10 жыл бұрын
what a perfectionist this bran is
@ameethsookdeo6782
@ameethsookdeo6782 8 жыл бұрын
This guys attention to detail is v admirable.
@mervynmontague1811
@mervynmontague1811 3 жыл бұрын
This build series is fascinating
@shamnampatandy
@shamnampatandy 9 жыл бұрын
Damn shame there isn't a part 5, 6, 7, 8, 9....great series (focus issues aside...)
@speedfreakteej
@speedfreakteej 11 жыл бұрын
I see he doesn't use rubber guides on the rods installing them. I too like to live dangerously. Seriously though, a true craftsman at work.
@islandboi1988
@islandboi1988 14 жыл бұрын
Love the professional work Chris!! I can watch these vids all day... Can't wait to get my M3 over to u guys..
@rondomingez
@rondomingez 12 жыл бұрын
That is proving my point, to build an efficient motor you have to have ported heads and if you have a good port design you will make an extremely efficient engine. Like I said factors come into play after the heads, like cams, pistons and as you mention valve diameter. The valve diameter comes into play in relation to air flow and the fact it revs to almost 12000rpm shows that. Like the M motors rev out and have ported heads show what it takes to make an efficient smaller engine.
@Xetenor
@Xetenor 12 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love seeing details of how strong engine builds are made.
@tptrsn
@tptrsn 14 жыл бұрын
You made a fan out of me with these videos! Thank you! ! !
@SuperFunkieman
@SuperFunkieman 12 жыл бұрын
yeah i understand u, but this guy make an great work on engines, i would pay for it!
@ltxx84
@ltxx84 14 жыл бұрын
You guys should make a video installing the block and head together. great video. I want to get an M3 so bad.
@christianVSR
@christianVSR 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the videos
@jr540123
@jr540123 12 жыл бұрын
well allot of these 40 plus year old designs are still working just fine and still kicking ass today is the main thing,
@cmasterScoob
@cmasterScoob 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing HPF. Great vids. Make some more :)
@kaiallen1180
@kaiallen1180 10 жыл бұрын
Do not clock rings in thrust directions! Just kidding, I'm sure you guys know what your doin. Glad to hear I'm not the only skeptic on soaking pistons before assembly.
@tommyharbuckle
@tommyharbuckle 8 жыл бұрын
@ 11:15 "this should hold up well ........." famous last words. Sure, the sleeved cylinder walls are now harder, and the bridge between the cylinders is now wider, but it also has to parting lines contained with in it.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 7 жыл бұрын
tommyharbuckle - Ummm, 10K hp Top Fuel blocks are sleeved; using Darton ductile iron sleeves no less ! Probably 75% of Pro-Mod and 100% of F-1 blocks are sleeved. It's simply NOT an issue.
@joemiller7184
@joemiller7184 11 жыл бұрын
i agree .i need this guy to soup up my 740 v8
@deeporbit9786
@deeporbit9786 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent and interesting video series. Do you do the same for S65 engines?
@HansSoloYolo
@HansSoloYolo 8 жыл бұрын
+deep orbit was wondering the same thing. If so, HPF has 2 new customers
@Jolinator
@Jolinator 5 жыл бұрын
Hans Solo hpf is no longer in business :/
@ndinadis
@ndinadis 13 жыл бұрын
@exaro Regardless of country the standard in machining is to still use the imperial system
@thejhambi
@thejhambi 14 жыл бұрын
Great video series.
@MetalicB0x
@MetalicB0x 12 жыл бұрын
amazing video, very informational, loved it
@zfloz9895
@zfloz9895 5 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece!
@elitewolverine
@elitewolverine 12 жыл бұрын
the overhead cam was a carry over from the airplanes of ww1 (talking 1915's here) and the DOHC was introduced as early as 1919 in a car. The first pushrods were not seen till later in the 40's by buick. So no they were not introduced for emissions. If anything the OHC is older than the OHV design, especially when talking about being used in cars.
@ethosflux
@ethosflux 11 жыл бұрын
That's the style now, shooting everything at f/1.4
@ICEGTN
@ICEGTN 12 жыл бұрын
You can also turn them the right amount of degrees, which is more accurate than torquing.
@stephenrussell100
@stephenrussell100 14 жыл бұрын
JUST PLAIN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@petrescudan87
@petrescudan87 9 жыл бұрын
I like these videos although there are many mistakes seen from a higher point of engineering... but are still well above the so-called engines modifiers. Some things are done well by BMW because, in fact, they developed this engine and they considered also the reliability. Good job!
@chrisbettinger2118
@chrisbettinger2118 5 жыл бұрын
Moving the piston pin craddles closer together, eh, that should be a no brainer to engrs at bmr world. Nice move there to increase piston strength
@curtbux
@curtbux 10 жыл бұрын
so did they put cylinder sleeves in the engine they are building or did they just show them as an example? if you did have cylinder sleeves installed would you then have to surface the sleeves with the diamond abrasive and brushes that they used in the previous videos?
@krusher74
@krusher74 9 жыл бұрын
+Curtis Buxton I think the engne there are build was the lower 900hp spec so sleeves not needed, Depending in the material used for the sleeves I would guess the company fitting them may surface them to spec used for that material before the block is sent back and they may then need different rings
@pedrocarvajal3166
@pedrocarvajal3166 6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, when he was talking about the wall material to harden the inside of the cylinder wall... how can you do that and still fit the piston inside ???
@nbrigdan
@nbrigdan 12 жыл бұрын
so awesome
@DJzSith
@DJzSith 12 жыл бұрын
this video makes me want to do some engine work. Time to change those vanos seals LOL :D
@LeonardoCostaUSA
@LeonardoCostaUSA 8 жыл бұрын
impressive !! I have got a M3 V8 from mean green and wondering if u can make it better, I mean more reliable and useful. How to find you guys for closer conversation?
@raydelvalle4059
@raydelvalle4059 7 жыл бұрын
Love this
@daneo226
@daneo226 14 жыл бұрын
@exaro i agree with you exaro. metric makes life easier, and more accurate.
@TurboSquid09
@TurboSquid09 11 жыл бұрын
I noticed the oil feed line brackets weren't placed on the main caps before torquing them. Was the tech supposed to undo two main caps to then place the bracket in then torque and angle it with a new one use bolt?
@briant2828
@briant2828 14 жыл бұрын
amazing
@vehicularMCS
@vehicularMCS 12 жыл бұрын
Brent Spiner's machinist doppelganger.
@sundown798
@sundown798 12 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris does the block still need to be torque-plated when the block is sleeved here? Thanks, Nick P.
@diesel_enduro
@diesel_enduro 14 жыл бұрын
brians knows his sh*t!!!
@mitkoman
@mitkoman 10 жыл бұрын
11:23 "THIS SHIT HOLDS UP WELL" :))
@UrbanChaos20
@UrbanChaos20 9 жыл бұрын
+mitkoman This SHOULD hold up well.
@mitkoman
@mitkoman 9 жыл бұрын
+Urban Chaos 2.0 Either slip of the tongue or i,m deaf!
@PatyRider
@PatyRider 10 жыл бұрын
Please what should be pozize rings during installation?
@yannceedel6826
@yannceedel6826 5 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the block to be stronger ?
@Desmodromic916
@Desmodromic916 12 жыл бұрын
What do you think how much the engine last with that parts but with less power, like 200HP? And isnt that cylinders too close to each other?
@tommyvai32
@tommyvai32 11 жыл бұрын
I agree whit lerlo...metric ftw
@martinlu6910
@martinlu6910 12 жыл бұрын
What is that lubricant that is beeing used on the cylinders at 1:47? Is it a motor oil? So we shouldn't oil the rings, should we use any lubricant at all?
@jeremiahsmith6689
@jeremiahsmith6689 11 жыл бұрын
both of those mentioned motors can be modified to go way beyond that which one will endure longer and be more dependable is a better question. Hond F1 engines go through a new rebuild after 1 to 3 races just to help them endure the torture of their high revs and the amount of time they are used so the driver has the best chance to win if their skills are good enough
@MetalicB0x
@MetalicB0x 12 жыл бұрын
yea i really doubt you'll make a kit that makes a daily 1000whp (thats like over 1100hp at the flywheel on 93octane, just doesnt make sense) but good luck.Ii mean the option I've considered is just the additional fuel cell in the trunk, makes more sense to switch between the too, 93 octane is expensive enough haha.. especially when your car slurps it right up
@ZakoX360X
@ZakoX360X 12 жыл бұрын
the pistons should go in from under,right ? cuz if they can enter from above that means that they can go out if the engine blows.
@fear2me
@fear2me 13 жыл бұрын
couse everybody needs a 1000hp.. at the weels.. all the time +1 for that!
@rondomingez
@rondomingez 12 жыл бұрын
The most efficient I have seen is a neon 2.0l motor built high compression with ported heads which produced over 300hp with no forced induction or nitrous. Yes it was not stock but it wouldn't take much to get any engine with over head cams (meaning 4 valves per cylinder) over the 100hp per liter as long as the heads are matched to the cam and pistons properly. If "america" really wanted that title it would be done, not being cocky but for some reason size matters to us more than efficiency.
@elitewolverine
@elitewolverine 12 жыл бұрын
yes there was, though in the form of steam, as far back as 1769, 1806 we got ICE (internal combustion engine). Just because they were not mass produced, made famous by the all mighty ford, does not mean they were not around. In fact Benz (not Mercedes-benz, that company was founded after wwII) had a car that is considered the first car in 1886.
@subieowner01
@subieowner01 11 жыл бұрын
I wish there was either a follow up as to where the motor went or how it performed after it was built
@H2GenerationX
@H2GenerationX 12 жыл бұрын
I love these vids. Chris is a cool m/f. Hes come a long way, and still gives advice in local forums. I agree, this is better than porn. :)
@RickJohnson
@RickJohnson 11 жыл бұрын
Some do. The solution here is a slower f-stop to increase depth of field. This guy was shooting wide-open, which, while great in lower light, makes it very hard to keep things in focus.
@kengreenwood7583
@kengreenwood7583 7 жыл бұрын
Big end sliding down the bore
@mmikse
@mmikse 14 жыл бұрын
@DonutManBMW There's no need to ring a properly mating block and head, using the proper head gasket, and clamping them together (at the proper torque) using extremely hard studs such as the L19 (L19 studs will hardly stretch at all, even under extreme boost). This means that the head will not lift from the block, even under extreme boost. Besides, you wouldn't want to ring the block and head with such narrow cylinder walls (between cylinder and cylinder).
@Chrisdsfilms
@Chrisdsfilms 13 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. But seriously guys... did you have to film at F1.4 with such shallow depth of field. Looks great and all for music videos or commercials, but really irritating when the Camera operator keeps missing his focus marks and we can't see whats going on.
@livedeliciously
@livedeliciously 12 жыл бұрын
I want that torque wrench!
@leeeon420
@leeeon420 12 жыл бұрын
winkz - tear it
@goguhu
@goguhu 12 жыл бұрын
Not saying ancient are 'bad', but perhaps this clarify this a bit ... push rod vs overhead cam (mainly introduced due to pollution/gas consumption) low rpm vs high rpm engines (high rpm can do with smaller clutches and gearboxes, resulting in overall less weight for the vehicle), 4-5 valves per cylinder vs 2-3 (5 is on the way out due to next to no benefit vs complexity). But at the end the engine itself is pretty much the same as it was 150years ago.
@93Viggen23
@93Viggen23 11 жыл бұрын
What kind/brand assembly lube is that? looks like the Redline assembly lube...
@no_bull
@no_bull 12 жыл бұрын
Are you sure about that? In Australia we use only metric as standard in machining, however when we work on American engines, that's when we use the imperial system. Most vehicle engines are using metric anyway...
@lameristotel
@lameristotel 11 жыл бұрын
I want to see it running! Where is the vid?
@ArmednSafe
@ArmednSafe 10 жыл бұрын
When this motor came into the shop, what was it used for? Did it have boost? Was it in a race car? How many miles were on it?
@marcthemarc5102
@marcthemarc5102 10 жыл бұрын
as far as i was able to follow, it was a standard S54 block which they build from the ground up.
@NociNL
@NociNL 10 жыл бұрын
Probably boosted the cheap way at first as it was smoking and consuming oil because of the egg shaped cylinder walls (hence the torqueplate) which is wy the block was rebuild to handle expensive boost. Miles were 75.000 as said in the second video which is wy i think it was boosted. Standard non boosted blocks running factory specification last over 250.000 miles if taken good care for and should not smoke and consume oil somewhere up to that milage.
@ArmednSafe
@ArmednSafe 10 жыл бұрын
"Boosted the cheap way" as in just slapping a turbo on and not building the internals for it?
@NociNL
@NociNL 10 жыл бұрын
Peter Martinson Exactly, it needs this kind of work done if your boosting an engine as all the part are not designed to deal with 100's of HP more then stock. Just slapping a turbo on will give the exact same problems shown in the videos. He also mentions in the first video at 3:45 ''the head's obviously lifted on it and the gasket is blown'' which is one of the problems you will encounter just boosting an engine and not doing the necessary work although it might be a cylinderhead from another engine he is working on at that moment. Fact of the matter is that non-boosted stock engines should NOT be having these problems unless treated the wrong way like not letting the engine warm up properly for example.
@Jinppa
@Jinppa 11 жыл бұрын
How so? 2.0 liter engine itself is by no means huge. But larger inlet valves allow more air to the engine - which means more power.
@SavageBunny1
@SavageBunny1 9 жыл бұрын
You didint stretch gauge the ARP's?? 😲😲😲😲😲😲
@danielbrealey2924
@danielbrealey2924 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much capacity it looses with the smaller bores. It'd be interesting to calculate true capacity now that the cylinder diameter is .050 smaller
@alpha434
@alpha434 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Brealey If they're starting with the 3.4l engine, then the sleeved engine would be like 3.12 liters.
@alpha434
@alpha434 8 жыл бұрын
+Logan Assuming the stock crank throw of 91mm
@Stratosticks
@Stratosticks 12 жыл бұрын
Great vids, but the DP needs to use a wider lens if he doesn't know how to realtime focus. Extremely distracting.
@vic2340
@vic2340 11 жыл бұрын
I am extremely pissed they did not show their final product. I wanted to see that engine running!!!!
@CreazioniPinnacolo
@CreazioniPinnacolo 11 жыл бұрын
why are we not using a rod bolt stretch gauge? we both know the lb rating isnt acturate across all 12 bolts
@thatguythatdoesstuff7448
@thatguythatdoesstuff7448 8 жыл бұрын
"Ductile iron that's very hard" ... supreme contradiction of metallurgy. Ductile means it's pliable and tough. Hardened is the opposite of ductile. The harder it is, the more wear resistant, but also the more brittle it is. Hardened will not bend, but will will break. Ductile will bend, but will not break and tends to retain its shape after being subjected to high loads.
@tommyharbuckle
@tommyharbuckle 8 жыл бұрын
+Theball Player You are correct. More technically, ductile means a material's form ability, specifically the ability to be drawn into a wire.
@Myrkskog
@Myrkskog 8 жыл бұрын
headache inducing camera work, otherwise, truly fascinating series of videos.
@RedTail617
@RedTail617 13 жыл бұрын
I swear after watching this series, I'd happily pay any dollar amount to have this guy rebuild my engine, and I don't even drive a bmw
@LionAutomotive
@LionAutomotive 11 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much a build like this cost for the amount if detail going into this must be a pretty penny.
@williamconger1327
@williamconger1327 10 жыл бұрын
Any body have an idea what company's manufactured the pistons, rings and connecting rods?
@krusher74
@krusher74 9 жыл бұрын
+William Conger JE/ carillo maybe
@stevenreynolds40
@stevenreynolds40 11 жыл бұрын
this is just some serious butt rock.
@eeeen321
@eeeen321 14 жыл бұрын
awesome videos, great info and very interesting watching a well thought out and maintained engine build. Now I just need a better job so I can THINK about owning a HPF M3..... lol, j/k... a WAY better job.
@JMRacing37
@JMRacing37 11 жыл бұрын
They're recorded using a really wide aperture because of the relative low light conditions in the shop, otherwise they'd need much more artificial lighting especially when doing the through-bore shots, which not only means carrying A LOT more heavy expensive lighting gear, but it gives a worse looking shot. However you are right, the depth of field in these films is too shallow for what we're watching, there needs to be more of a balance between light and depth.
@its0a0me
@its0a0me 13 жыл бұрын
@exaro~ Metric FTW!!!
@localnation
@localnation 12 жыл бұрын
This guy can keep his cool, but you can tell he is fed up with some of the questions.
@sinn3r213
@sinn3r213 12 жыл бұрын
LIKe! how he says Yeah! cuz everybody needs a thousands horse power, at the wheel all the time. LOL =D. I SURE WOULD LOVE MY CAR LIKE THAT, 2 Bad im still paying for it =/ and im broke =( lol. GOOD VIDs.
@ph1L1pp
@ph1L1pp 11 жыл бұрын
it probably is filmed with a dslr and a 50mm f/1.8 so its pretty to hard to keep the focus right manually! but youre right: get a new camera or cameraman :D
@jeremiahsmith6689
@jeremiahsmith6689 11 жыл бұрын
i liked when jeremy clarkson drove that skyline with over a 1000 hp. he made the remark that the engine was also more durable than the original. i would love to add plenty of hp to an engine for my car that is as reliable as before it was modified. otherwise you spend alot have some fun until you have engine failure which happens when you add alot of horsepower. amost anything working harder and faster tends to wear out faster, sad fact of life!
@madfunm3
@madfunm3 14 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the song in this video?
@Suprakidd1
@Suprakidd1 12 жыл бұрын
bro. hpf is a distributor.. the guys building the engine are m&b cylinder head out of Oregon
@koneye
@koneye 14 жыл бұрын
So now you know :D
@lwalker23
@lwalker23 12 жыл бұрын
Actually, you are wrong good sir. The title is held by engines based on the Chrysler hemi and are built in the United States. They hold the title with a mind blowing 976hp per liter! These 500ci engines are used by top fuel dragsters producing over 8000hp!
@jeffwins24
@jeffwins24 12 жыл бұрын
this guy is smart as fuck
@Jinppa
@Jinppa 12 жыл бұрын
Actually Greek firm called Extreme-Tuners built 2.0 liter 4 cylinder 16v Cosworth engine that puts out 416hp@11900rpms Also, it's really funny that you mention Neon! Because Neon's engine is copy of Mitsubishi's 4G63, but worse built quality and the cam is reversed (exhaust side at front).
@215alessio
@215alessio 11 жыл бұрын
who puts those sleeves in these engines? didn't knew bmw had sleeves
@momodragon
@momodragon 11 жыл бұрын
looks like Ted from fast and the furious!
@osmo81
@osmo81 11 жыл бұрын
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