Secrets of the Overground (Pt.1)

[@Lemonhead209]

These videos are great, I don't live in London, and I'm not into trains, but this series is really good.

[@mentalhooch]

Same

[@AcT323-1]

Same

[@jglackey2]

America has a secret once a day train too, it's called Amtrak

[@qjtvaddict]

Jacob Lackey Amtrak is useless

[@avgeek_kev212]

qjtvaddict IKR

[@yvonney3083]

Lizardtube

[@mcguy0888]

Jacob Lackey That is very right

[@counterfit5]

qjtvaddict not in the Northeast Corridor

[@jamiepdavies]

The new shoreditch overground station was purposely placed in zone 1 to maximise the revenue stream from commuters who work near Liverpool st and who used to disembark at shoreditch to avoid having to buy a zone 1 ticket. Very sneaky.

[@gabri_maybe]

Joe Dredd But The Best Thing If You Go From Clapham Juncton To Highbury & Islington it charges you Less,Because The Computer Don’t Know If You Go Via Zone 1 Or Not

[@jackgroombridge9397]

london is nice bro but i dont use the overground

[@Toastybear1]

why am i still so interested in these videos.... I'm not even a commuter in london :L

[@avhg5752]

Me either. Besides, i'm from Spain

[@tomkeane3956]

Álvaro Herrera I'm from Sydney Australia and I love this

[@avhg5752]

Tom Keane I love it too. I've always have curiosity of London transport

[@joserodrigo5595]

toasty bear lmao i live in fuckin mexico

[@stephthestar90]

I'm in Ireland too, but I grew up in London so I'm somewhat familiar with the tube and I was on it as a child.

[@scipio5916]

Almost 4 years later, Geoff finally got his South Tottenham wish

[@mapshite8663]

It's a "10 minute walk" connector rather than a blob though.

[@joey-kaboey6475]

South Tottenham Seven Sisters Geoff Marshall Problem 2015-2020

[@alexleo172]

@Fried Soda Also Edgware Road

[@thickernell]

Just wanted to say that I really like your train videos. I'm an American "railfan" from Chicago, but I've always been fascinated by London trains. Keep up the good work.

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

Conversely I love the American big stuff 😀

[@Edant]

I used to live in london from birth until I was 5 and I loved the tube and was fascinated by it (the announcement display taught me how to read at 4 as it showed words and spoke them). Even then I lived about a half hour train ride from london where my mum still worked in Piccadilly and I always felt at ease no matter how squashed I was on a tube. Now I'm living in Scotland in an area deprived of trains and it is a bit boring on buses. So thank you for teaching me more about the tube as I am a bit of a modern day train spotter (I really miss the wide arch shaped model of the district line train which was gray on top and red everywhere else that's how crazy I am about the tube) :)

[@hxssan27]

2:47 I've always wondered why there were a pair of tracks that ran through South Tottenham Station that branched off from another rail line and branched off to another rail line. Seems like it took me 5 years to eventually find out (I always thought it was abandoned)

[@theonefrancis696]

I'm into simulations, and even though I don't live in London, I'm so glad I could "drive" one of these trains in Train Simulator. Good job brits.

[@juliansmalley1575]

The SW sweet

[@ben.x]

I've been looking forward for this for ages! I wish they where longer! They are so interesting and enjoyable to watch! Can't wait for part 2! Thanks Londonist :)

[@FlyingScud]

Love the geekyness about the Overground! George Bernard Shaw, when he was theatre critic for the Saturday Review, travelled to review a play at the Theatre Royal, Stratford East. Apparently, he was very disparaging about Dalston and Haggerston, wondering who could possibly live in a place with such awful names. Presumably then, he would have travelled to Stratford via the Dalston Junction East Curve!

[@nanba25]

I like this Overground new system : clean trains, brightly lit stations with vast public spaces, stairs and all… everything seems so well designed and thought. This clever video shows us a few unexpected bloops, well done

[@jacksearle5485]

you will never guess what the hackney to Dalston line (something that starts crossrail and ends with 2)

[@dvidclapperton]

Shocking shortage of seats on some overground trains though.

[@laurencelowne8454]

These videos really are great - well done Geoff and team.

[@kmpoppe]

Yet another brilliant Secrets Video - THANKS A LOT Geoff, for getting it to us!

[@Einstein52]

Really interesting nice and informative video. Thank you for uploading. Greetings and best wishes from Germany. Günter.

[@RobertdMacGregor]

Fun fact about the once a day train service, it actually starts from Willsden TMD and goes empty to Upney Junction just beyond Barking and then back through Barking too Woodgrange Park to start its service.

[@SiVlog1989]

I wonder if there will be a "secrets of Crossrail" video when it opens... Eventually

[@andymadden8183]

There is "Secrets of TfL Rail".

[@YKW-YouKnowWhat]

The biggest secret is it will never be finished. Also total secret will be the final cost.

[@nthglasScotland]

Considering we are now in February 2020, I wonder if we take lots that Crossrail in regal purple may be in passenger service by 2025?? Would it have taken Communists even a year to bulldoze everything, displace, & build the thing? I am very anti socialism, yet sometimes...

[@joesos]

it is may 2020 and crossrail is yet to open lmao

[@SiVlog1989]

@@joesos Yeah, it was of its time, the comment. Little did we know at the time that the project was running so far behind schedule

[@mark314158]

Very good. If only you could make each part 30min long ...

[@leom2052]

***** Thank you Geoff, will you be doing any other video about secrets. You said that all your subscribers would see the London overground part 2 first, when will that be because I have subscribed to your video about two weeks ago? thanks

[@Chelseaeditz1]

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[@trainspotter9941]

Do you just love trains?

[@a5wzz256]

Monstar123 grxxz

[@arnaldobankhardt7659]

mark

[@IanPhillipsWildlife]

Hackney Downs and Hackney Central are linked, but this connection was built after this video was uploaded.

[@daviddiplodocus1952]

The overground has so many lines they should do something like the tube and have different overground lines Great vid😁

[@kailidovas9562]

Different lines and different trains?

[@kailidovas9562]

Well for me nothing can top the Tube!

[@DavidAndrewsPEC]

I love these videos, Geoff!

[@Londonistvids]

Thanks David, we love you too for watching!

[@DavidAndrewsPEC]

:) Part of my study as an industrial archaeologist was the whole railway thing. Lovely, then, to see a channel like yours.

[@LilacandtheToots]

I've always wondered what those old trains were doing up there in Shoreditch! Thanks :-)

[@cfcno1fan]

Missed these, thanks for making them. I know it's not on the tube map, but please please please can we have a Secrets of the Tramlink?

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

There is a combined map published with tram link on it

[@carnivorousvegan69]

Nice profile pic xD

[@Einstein52]

Wow! Very good and so interesting video. Thank you and best greetings from Germany. Günter.

[@BR75069]

Wow! Never knew there we're that many secrets of the Overground. Very much looking forward to part 2! :)

[@thekevin26167]

Now secrets of the national rail services or the tram line.

[@Persephone_]

ALL OF THEM. xD

[@thataspieguy5244]

National rail is boring and there's nothing to see on the tram line

[@AlexYapTheGreat]

Or Secrets of Thameslink at least?

[@thataspieguy5244]

Alexander Yap theres nothing even on national rail thats worth seeing, at least tfl provide good easter eggs

[@SiVlog1989]

+Z-TeamProject Many tram lines are built on old railway lines, parts of the Croydon (London) Tramlink are built on parts of the courses of; Wimbledon to West Croydon and the Woodside and South Croydon Railways.

[@TheUrbanGaze]

I binged all these videos a few years ago, multiple times. I'm watching them again because I'm about to go to London, in less than a month now. My hotel is right next to an Overground station: Imperial Wharf. It's just a stroll over a roundabout! I just wish the different lines were more easily distinguishable on the map, I'll have to kinda wing it to get from St. Pancras to Imperial Wharf.

[@SpartanBunzer]

There should also be a connector blob for Saint James' Street (Overground(Liverpool Street to Chingford)) and Blackhorse Road (Victoria line) The two stations are reletavely close.

[@avgeek_kev212]

I LOVE these videos! You are my favorite KZbinr

[@ednuttah]

Geoff I love the fact you made the effort to wear a tie yet chose to leave the shirt out! Nice touch! Not stuffy office material yet mate, keep the secrets series coming I love them! Secrets of the Buses? London Trams? Disused lines? How about national? Secrets of the Great Central?

[@hakc97again]

Did you not have an Orange shirt then Geoff?

[@Londonistvids]

hakc97again If you look closely, it appears that he's wearing it beneath his shirt.

[@hakc97again]

***** Ah yes I do see it. Why did he choose to cover it up? Was it chilly?

[@adambilling3280]

Coldclough its always cold in England

[@andrews0208]

Coldclough I know how m a bit late with this comment but just noticed he got the same colour shirt and tie as the LORL uniform

[@andymadden8183]

If you like the cold, visit England. If you don't like politics, don't.

[@mucker69420]

1:23 Matt: "why?" (I know he says "Hi.".)

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

I have been on the London Overground so many times before and I find it so frequent, easy and lot better than Silverlink Metro.

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

I love British trains, they're so colorful !

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

Contrasting colours are a safety requirement and then you have the branding colours

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

@@user-ky6vw5up9m oh that's nice to know !

[@therealdave06]

Apart from London, English trains suck. In Poland, I took a direct 100km express train with my brother and mother and it cost the equivalent of £10. A similar train in England could cost tens or hundreds of pounds with maybe one or two layovers

[@liambleasdale1707]

Very good Geoff. Some things there even I didn't know Thanks

[@dansmith4601]

Liam Bleasdale I

[@andrewroutledge8314]

I have spotted two overground oddities. The first is Whitechaple where the Overground is underground and passes under the Underground which is overground. The second detail I like is at Kew Gardens station where there are cast concrete smoke deflectors on the old footbridge.

[@andrewroutledge8314]

Just seen you covered Whitechaple on your District line video.

[@andrewholloway231]

Looking forward to part 2 .... great video.

[@thetravelbubble6154]

+Londonist Ltd When London Overground takes over Southern Railways Metro services such as the Victoria to Sutton and Victoria to London Bridge via Crystal Palace lines, will they change the seating and make trains like the Class 378. will all the lovely toilets, tables, reading lamps, Luggage racks, plug sockets and 2×2 seating disappear?

[@michaelkirwan6541]

If your interested I live in Watford and I know a hell of a lot about railways around here. not just a few facts but abandoned stations and buildings, tracks, secrets things like that

[@davidrogers891]

Another GREAT Video, looking forward to seeing part 2

[@namzkhan5708]

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[@namzkhan5708]

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[@bobphillips1996]

Dear Geoff, I was a big fan of your videos, and they, along with your tube challenge videos have inspired me and daddy to go to every tube station (Not in a day though. I really liked your videos, and for ages I was wondering when you would do secrets of the overground. One thing - In your met video, you said you'd do the abandoned stations between Baker Street and Wembley Park. I really like your videos. Your's Scinscerely, BOB

[@Londonistvids]

Bob Phillips Bob, we made a DVD which has the 'Abandoned Stations' video on it - exclusive to the DVD. There are a last few number of copies left, here ... www.videoscene.co.uk/secrets-of-the-underground.html

[@Nick_80599]

Another secret is that Arriva runs it all. Arriva Rail London is what its really called. Its still part of the National Rail network. People living near the Enfield lines said they wanted Abellio Greater Anglia back

[@ChrisInTheNorth]

Someone may have already asked this, but did the railwaymen of the North London Railwaymen keep fighting in WW1 for a few extra months. Others stopped in 1918

[@cedriclynch]

Britain and some of its allies did keep on fighting in Russia some time after 1918, trying to overturn the Russian Revolution.

[@linuxducky]

Yes you made this just like we asked for, thank you!

[@wang_one_95]

I live near South Tottenham station. This morning I woke up around 5.50-ish and saw at least two trains running past the station without stopping. One of the trains seems to be a class 315 (the one used on Seven Sisters service). Does any one know what were the two trains for? What services are these? It can't be the Saturday 0531 Liverpool Street to Enfield parliamentary train, because today is a Tuesday...

[@Throwawayaccount-wg5lj]

Wang Yulun funeral train service

[@peaceman269]

Great as usual. But I may have missed something - where's your better half? Thanks

[@karlgalway7605]

I remember coming to London a few years ago and I found the overground slightly confusing as it's actually a lot of different lines. I feel that they should name each of the lines. Makes it less confusing as a tourist

[@christophersimpson-brooker840]

Hi Geoff I love your videos, just thought id say that I think it would be a good idea if you made a video explaining the changes to railway lines around Liverpool Street/Broad Street/Shoreditch (East London Line), Shoreditch (Main Line)/Bishopsgate/Holborn Viaduct. Its had so many changes over the years. Just a thought, keep up with the great videos.

[@Londonistvids]

***** Chris, we have a video coming out .. TOMORROW that you might like that does this!

[@XNick291X]

I just need Part 2 to come out and that would be my favourite part of the TFL/ UK rail network covered!! :)

[@XNick291X]

***** Brilliant set of videos Geoff, well done!! :)

[@anonymousanonymous7250]

The station house for the old Shoreditch station (East London, not North London) is still around, and I think they should put it back into service. They can build a footbridge from there to the Shoreditch High Street Station.

[@HROM1908]

I thoroughly enjoy these videos, mainly since London is my home town. Do tuck in your shirt, there's a good lad.

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

Now the Barking to Gospel Oak line is electric.

[@SiVlog1989]

I think I know why via Shoreditch is the zone 2 fare, it's because that section straddles zones 1 & 2 and the rules state that those traveling in such areas, like Earl's Court similarly, pay the lower fare...

[@ХунгНгуен-й8ц]

Great train!🚞🛤🚥🚦

[@jaymesstewartcreativ]

I used to go there when I was a baby , at that gardens at salvation junction, and it’s very nice.

[@TheGWRailfan]

As far as I know the secret Woodgrange - Willesden service no longer runs... If it does where can I find it?

[@yegventures]

Love all of *****'s videos! Informative as always. :)

[@namzkhan5708]

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[@LondonTransportFanatic]

I always recognize the Bollo Lane Viaduct when I see it. I hope you also mention in Part 2 how the North London Line originally continued through the lower level at Stratford to Silvertown. It was after all on the Tube Map on the back of your A - Z ;)

[@cedriclynch]

Not just to Silvertown but to North Woolwich. The Stratford-North Woolwich bit was closed after the opening of a new Docklands Light Railway line running very close to it.

[@iman2341]

Anyone know why the East London line still hasnt been connected the the Watford DC lines via Primrose hill? The only problem I see is the lack of 4 tracks for about 80ft just west of Camden Road Station?

[@HenrysAdventures]

Very informative video! Does that Woodgrange Park to Willesden Junction Low Level train still run?

[@MYBIGKINDHEART]

very good and very interesting, thanks

[@anthonylloyd6094]

Which route from Clapham Junction is the quicker?

[@griffinfamily143]

you know the odd fare system between highbury and clapham junction, does it work if you go from cannonbury to clapham junction

[@kailidovas9562]

If you are a driver at Underground do you also have to drive Overground Trains?

[@RomeosWorldofTFL]

No you don’t, they have separate drivers

[@thedolphinproject8472]

I have a feeling the Battersea Park train will be in the next video. You even left a clue!!!

[@thataspieguy5244]

You just spoiled it for everyone! Well not me, but everyone else

[@matteogasparotti2629]

Could you do a video on 1. the bakerloo extention and 2. the suburban trains being taken over by tfl because I have no idea if it's to be added to the overground or be it's own line

[@FnafFanProductions]

Dalston Junction was really different in the 70s

[@musaab-fy5mf]

Tesr

[@jaffacakecraigy]

Geoff, is the dvd still available? Need to see the abandoned stations video

[@Londonistvids]

craig walker Craig - it is, drop Geoff a line on twitter and he'll let you know where to get it!

[@파리의콜로세움]

In korea, there is 경의중앙선 similar to overground. But different from overground, You can transfer directly from other subway lines without extra charge. If you have a T-money card (korean oyster), you can free transfer from subway to bus. and you also can use even at the convence store (ex 7 eleven,gs25,cu) in korea. You can find them from place to place in Korea. Come to Korea and have fun.

[@CBeaumontHIGTFY]

Battersea Park will be the mystery station I reckon. There is one train at 6 ish in the morning to Highbury and Is', and one which terminates from there at about 11pm I think it is (it's quite late).

[@thataspieguy5244]

Next time write spoilers

[@UserUCKANAOD8SlYguEhbCkUdlMQ]

If the tickets accept zone 2 only for Highbury, what about cannonbury, Gospel Oak and Dalston Kingsland. Technically you could go round Willesden to get to these locations or travel via Shorditch in Zone 1. What would it charge then?

[@Londonistvids]

+Mark Roblox Yes, Clapham to those stations are all Zone 2 to Zone 2 journeys so will be charged us such, even if you travel anti-clockwise around the 'circle' of the Overground and pass through Zone 1.

[@Londonistvids]

+Mark Roblox If you use the TfL Single Fare Finder page, it will tell you the cost of a journey between any two stations: tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares/single-fare-finder

[@atrerailways7886]

Londonist Ltd I am moving to London I have no clue

[@michaelkirwan6541]

there's loads of things to see and Geoff would be extremely intrigued. I think he could make a great vid on it. I jut wish I could show him round.....

[@timsekac2624]

Poor old South Tottenham should get the same connextion too! That would be very handy!

[@randolphclarke4674]

Tim Sekac there is. I go from crouch hill to turkey street to go to school and I change there every day. They just can’t fit the connector blob on the map

[@Flyingscotsman218]

HI Geoff! How can we see the abandoned stations video? I know you released it on dvd but I thought you could buy it anymore

[@OfficialBobCorp]

Excellent video, Geoff! Will you be doing the tram lines from when they ran?

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

Trivia point: The Central line passes deep under Shoreditch High Street Station. There is no intention to provide interchange presumably because Liverpool Street station is nearby.

[@georgeackerman90]

Very interesting keep up the listing.

[@cameronnnn07]

I'm making a minature overground in my garden with C stock S stock trains

[@thegardener6342]

I hope you don't mind a couple of minor corrections which don't detract from your programme. The line to Broad Street was built by the North London Railway, not the East London, and the war memorial used to stand in the station concourse. When Broad Street closed in 1986, the memorial was moved to Richmond, as you state, but was located in the station, not a car park. All the best!

[@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS]

I always wondered about those tube carriages in Shoreditch!

[@cyclerunner]

What is the London map shown at 3:48?

[@cyclerunner]

***** ah, I didn't even know about that, very useful, thanks!

[@cyclerunner]

***** good to have such things in the public domain that aren't subject to the whims of a megacorporation. I think it looks nicer than Google maps too.

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

The central line passes below Shoreditch High Street station but there is no intention to provide interchange.

[@Mudkip0408]

where did you film 2:55 Geoff??

[@Londonistvids]

He filmed it in Dalston, Kingsbury Road.

[@Tsass0]

Geoff. any news on the installation of that east curve, that is there any developements

[@paulrussell3049]

Why do trains having stopped at a station then pull out of a station and then stop again, if they have to wait while another train passes why don't they just wait IN THE STATION?

[@kailidovas9562]

6:01 I'd the train really just missed the station! 😂

[@Nikkilovesgils]

You said that NO overground closed since it it was Overground what about the little stretch down to North Woolwich or was that part of the NLL

[@Londonistvids]

+Nic Butcher Hey Nic! Geoff tells us it was part of the North London Line, and never part of the Overground.

[@Nikkilovesgils]

OK but neither were st annes rd etc they were NLL not overground as well Could Geoff do a secrets of thameslink vid and a secrets of the NCL with the "Hidden" Angel Road station that doubles up as an emergency exit

[@dosky66]

Nic Butcher

[@rogermew5578]

Hi Geoff, please please please Chesham is pronounced Chess ham. and really it is also Amers Ham. This is how names get corrupted so do on your next thingy let people know that there is no Chesham but a Chess Ham a town on the river Chess. It really IS on the river Chess as the river runs under the properties on the main road as we discovered when the old SEB showroom had its floor dug up! Also you may like to know that the line was originally going to link up with the line to Berkhamsted and by following the (note the incorrect spelling) Berkhampstead Road. If you follow the road then you will discover the line was actually routed and bridges made. I do hope you read this as it may be yet another secret.

[@tomkeane3956]

Hey Geoff. I'm from Sydney Australia. And coming to London next year. What are the best stations to go to in London? Love your videos, they're awesome !! :)

[@jameschristmas3206]

How long till part 2? I can't wait!!

[@timdaugherty5921]

Geoff, help.. Easiest tube from Heathrow to the Southwark Station near Waterloo..I am clueless!

[@madone7583]

FINALLY!!!!! (Thank You!)

[@MarioJPav]

When will the overground go to Chingford?

[@jsma9999]

YES, Will this Go DVD as well?

[@mittfh]

Has anyone worked out the point of that train that sits in a siding for 10 minutes? Is it doing a "turnback" or is there another reason?

[@jmcl1]

The line is crosses to get into the station (the lower level of Willesden Junction) is the bakerloo/ north London line . So I guess it is forced to wait for the track to be free in the timetable , hence the wait

[@shaqscott-davis4316]

Love these vids..could you do secrets of london Tramlink?

[@jacksugden8190]

Didn’t the Gospel Oak to Barking line go electric?

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

The only truly new route on east London line is the severe bend at shoreditch station to link the two original separate routes together.

[@harrystrains3227]

hi geoff well done on all the stations and I'm coming to London this year to stay in beacontree on the district line so what bound do I go in Eastbound or westbound

[@theundeniablegem]

Where's the abandoned stations video?

[@WideAwakeAsleep]

***** Totally buying this DVD when more come out :)

[@WideAwakeAsleep]

***** Totally buying this DVD when more come out :)