Security Contracting: What it is and How to get Started

[@valkry007]

"Knowing Someone" always helps for pretty much any job, anywhere.

[@KitBadger]

#truth

[@ScribeSapient]

For me it was more somebody knew me and i was on hard times..

[@seancoonery2559]

Facts

[@sloppytaco9629]

Even blowjobs!!! one time my mom told my sister it was her turn. I got blown

[@deathlarsen7502]

@@sloppytaco9629 idiot. You live in a basement

[@oregonoutback7779]

These fireside chats provide an extremely valuable reality check for those thinking they want to enter this profession. Personally, I preferred being on offence rather than defense, because both static and mobile security puts one in the position of being a target. Hours and hours of boredom, with intermixed moments of panic and sheer terror. You brought up a good point about the market becoming flooded with spec ops veterans. Young people wanting to enter this field better go get some training and experience. The first time getting shot at usually separates the wheat from the chaff.

[@gabrielduran1369]

hey brother, I am really considering this line of work for the next few years. I got out of the military (11B) and the pay in the outside world just isn't there for me at the moment and I need to the money to help my family and I get established. I am looking into getting my feet wet with a static position. Can you shed any light on what pay is like or usually like for someone who is just starting up? Currently looking at Constellis but according to kit badger, their offer (200 a day) seems extremely low from what all the other contractors seem to be getting paid. Is the price usually negotiable? Any companies you would recommend scoping out?

[@gabrielduran1369]

Any info helps me at this point.

[@oregonoutback7779]

@@gabrielduran1369 … Ivan would be a much better person to ask. My experiences were way back in the very early 70's , then again in the middle to late 80's. Things have changes tremendously since then. I truly wish you all the best in your search.

[@gabrielduran1369]

I appreciate the help brother.

[@KitBadger]

From your standpoint, you don't have much to bargain with for pay. There is usually a pay table for the contract. Pay bumps as you spend time on the contract. Keep in mind there is a glut of highly qualified people. Without a TS-SCI or something like that, that might be where you'll end up starting...

[@BostonsF1nest]

How to be a security contractor: Step 1: Be a special forces operator first

[@ethang9932]

easy

[@thomasgeorge5327]

You dont need to be special forces 😂😂

[@Scrubs01]

@@thomasgeorge5327 most are usually ex SF or SOF and some are infantry with like 3+ combat tours

[@kylebyron2756]

Kyle Johnson false, literally half the contracts out right now require 4 years experience in a combat MOS, and maybe one combat tour.

[@tommiller7902]

Kyle Johnson It used to be only SF or experienced Infantry. But with such high demand pretty much anyone can do it.

[@GuamGuy]

What do you mean I can’t depose African dictators for profit? Blame thatcher

[@KitBadger]

You probably can, look harder... :)

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

@@KitBadger I was just going to say... hahaha, Venezuela may be an opportunity in the near future too

[@50shadesofcerakote]

@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary i look forward to it haha

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

@@50shadesofcerakote LOL airsofters need not apply either, but if you got some real experience go get 'em tiger.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

@Bhum Brahmavira So long as we're still getting paid and don't have to work as hard, touche hahahaha

[@DriveMyselfSane]

Man, you’re so soft spoken and professional. The scenery and outdoors stuff is just a bonus. Subscribed.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks for that man, I appreciate it.

[@nicolakruger9043]

I think his voice is quite sexy.

[@davewolf8869]

I am a former security contractor. That is a tight group of words for what I actually did, but that is the gist of my job. I laid my life on the line to protect people or groups of people. I was not paid for it, it was a volunteer group of guys based on the outfit I was attached to at the time. I did it because I believed in the people, what they were saying, or the event. I had to provide my own weapon, my own armor, my own ammunition. I worked with police, and with paramilitary organizations. I will not lie it was one of the defining things I have done in my life, aside from feeding the hungry and the homeless, and working with pure wolves. I remember my first op, I had to confess my sins to people I wronged, and try and "get right" with God as much as I was able, because it was likely I wouldn't be coming back, due to the nature of the people, the event, and those who were threatening the entire thing. I was standing there, in body armor, with a loaded weapon, and I realized, I could be shot, stabbed, run over, or blown up at any moment... And then I smiled and realized "I live for this shit!" I had to leave the work when my unit split up, one side went extreme one way, the other side when extreme the other. It got scary, not life and death but freedom and, well, not. I worked alongside ex military and ex police but I am a civilian. (I could not join the military due to health reasons) I trained with these men and they showed me what they knew. I gained a ton of life experience, I was very good at what I did and I absolutely loved it. It was a once in a lifetime experience and I am glad I did it.

[@WalterHeisenburgWhite]

I can talk partially for non security contracts. I was a Marine Raider for 9 years and my brother was a carpenter in the civilian world. After I left I was approached by a company that needed personnel to provide security to carpenters and builders that were building schools and hospitals. I told my brother what I was doing and he asked if they needed a carpenter so I asked and they did and they were happy to hire my brother. Time comes around where we both deploy to Somalia to build a school he as a carpenter and I as a operator. I asked him how he liked it when we finished he said he enjoyed it and would be returning to help build more buildings. He was getting paid $550 a day and I a little less at $450 and we did 180 days there and 120 back home. If you have any questions about it comment them and Ill ask him about it.

[@ninjagaming2036]

Redstone Lord how do you do rotational contracts like 90-180 days in country then back home then back over etc etc

[@WalterHeisenburgWhite]

@@ninjagaming2036 180 in country 120 home and you just repeat until you want to quit or they offer you a different job

[@ninjagaming2036]

Redstone Lord oh okay cool. I have a deployment coming up through the guard but when I return I will have 4 years in as a scout. Where can I find the rotational contracts? Thanks man!

[@WalterHeisenburgWhite]

@@ninjagaming2036 Reach out to companies and even the government. You may not get a good paying contract the first time but after youve been on two or three deployments with one company see if they have anything else to offer, they will be more likely to give you the better paying and more exciting contracts it you have rapport with them. Hope this helps!

[@WalterHeisenburgWhite]

@timmybmn More then half the guys I flew in with probably never saw a gun the entire time they were there as they were cooks carpenters electricians plumbers just going there to help the somalians.

[@TheyloveJohn405]

These videos are a godsend,most people are so secretive when it comes to contracting and then here comes Ivan shedding some light on how it all works

[@Motoboo_Marine]

I don't think it's necessarily that they're secretive; there's simply not that many people that do it. Think of the percentage of the US population that are military vets probably around 7%, my guess is about 2-3% are younger vets. Then think about how many of those take up contracting. Not whole lot. Even less so that talk about their job experiences online. So when you have maybe 4-5% of 3% of the population that actually does this sort of thing, it's not surprising there's not a lot of information out there.

[@gravygraves5112]

@@Motoboo_Marine Even smaller when you factor in that most vets were not even a combat MOS so there really must be a small amount of people doing the security contracting.

[@coaboa5339]

@@Motoboo_Marine true

[@saetmusic]

I have NO military training. I don't own a gun. (Although I would like to learn how to use one.) I would not be within a million miles of this, But I find this extremely fascinating! It's a glimpse into a whole different world! Extreme admiration!

[@eastsidemerez9117]

We dont want u in America, move to japan

[@daphnetruman]

I worked with an ex Marine F.R. guy who worked security for a while and he said a person basically needs "tabs" (ie Ranger, SF, SEAL tabs) to get hired. He said his company only had one guy who didn't and he was just a really, really good guy who had been a Marine grunt. He used the term "mercenary" a little hesitantly to describe the position. I replied that from what he had told me that "soldier of fortune" sounded more accurate. He seemed to like that take on it.

[@Josh-ii1eq]

Title should be : Top Tier Contracting.....I was in the National Guard while being in law enforcement experience in DC and got on with Triple Canopy. Its really not that hard, most people don't want these jobs. They love the comfort of driving to McDonald's after having 12 beers on a Friday night. Contracting: Its all about making money, getting out, and starting another career or retiring.

[@codyjacobs8317]

Some what agree, putting in the time on shit contracts will open up opportunities. This is a good explanation, especially the thin skin example.. along with knowing people..but it's not absolute. Without certain experience your basically rolling the dice and maybe you find an open door, but it does happen.

[@tonya.rodriguez7691]

I have been thinking for a while about getting into contracting. After watching this video and the last one, I can “put that to bed” as you said. It’s basically no different then the job I have now: basically being an underprivileged and over glorified security guard. Thanks for the awesome content. Your videos have real world substance and not a bunch of macho bullshit. Keep up with the cool videos. I’ll be watching from now on.

[@KitBadger]

Glad to help Tony, I appreciate you watching.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Solid info

[@KitBadger]

Thanks buddy.

[@rebekah-chriss-k4872]

Did Mr clean ever contract?

[@MrNonStopOrator]

I watch vids and they say contractors are about money, this is true but all of America’s bosses have been about it but a man with billions, that’s why TRUMP

[@thomasburns4034]

What your friends? I love both your channels!

[@gullyactual1898]

Dude, I could be watching a porn video and you'd probably still be in the comments 😂😂

[@unbeatable7772]

Can we all just appreciate the AMAZING quality of this mans mic, like he's burning sticks in a a fire, in the cold and you can here like only 15% background noise. Thats awesome.

[@durrtybuck8949]

I saw the movie Extraction, I think I'm ready.

[@lahdensamu]

Not a realistic movie, but a really good one.

[@alexxx3021]

@@lahdensamu how is it not realistic??

[@lahdensamu]

@@alexxx3021 1 guy killed 183 people in just a few hours. Everyone who he killed was armed.

[@Silentblogger659]

I heard on NPR that the DoD started hiring PMCs to allow SOCOM operators to get more R&R back home. I start training for a DoD contract in afghanistan with a salary of $110,000 near the end of the year. Wish me luck.

[@KitBadger]

Is it fair to assume you are coming from a SOF background?

[@davidscott3820]

Sean Nadeau stay alert, dont trust anyone. 1976 some of the thai mercenarie i worked with were communist (and they were the bad guys).

[@daveice20]

Don't worry, guys, Trump is in talks with IS to bring Sean home from Afghanistan!

[@seancoonery2559]

Hahah

[@mattgauvin7842]

PMCs don’t offer yearly salaries. Your paid per day and usually run in 2-4 week contracts and you can re-up on deployment. So I think your full of shit. Former tier 1 operators might make that in a year MAYBE.

[@adityanathanael]

This video background is so damn majestic

[@KitBadger]

Thanks, took awhile to get up there. :)

[@josephsaucedo5450]

Kit Badger where is that at

[@c3corvettel-824]

As a young entrepreneur with ownership of a PSMC (Private Security&Military Company) find your content knowledgeable and there are a lot that can be learned from your videos. Thank you for the great content! -President&Director of Physical Security

[@KitBadger]

No problem, thanks for watching.

[@AZDesertExplorer]

I too am an owner of a PSMC, I’d love to get in touch & see if we can help each other out.

[@jhonteanehls8182]

A H are you hiring?

[@devonsanders9322]

Are looking for for security 2 people with non military experience but battle worn

[@mrsickwithitt3955]

Say just a question can a felon contract I would guess not security clearance an all. I'm a veteran 19d cavalry scout

[@bobby398]

The guys who ask, "why can't i get into contracting without a background in the military?" I don't ever want to work with those kind of people.

[@FitnFire]

Bobby I would mostly agree; however, not everyone is created equal. What if that military background was as a supply specialist? Or, conversely, what if they’re non-military experience was as a SWAT team member? I hate to work in “what ifs” but I would judge the individual and their experiences rather than a title of experience. I hope that makes sense.

[@bobby398]

@@FitnFire LEO/mil to me is the same. Thats fine. Its more the attitude that comes with the question. It basically means to me, you want a shortcut path to do something that requires a unique skill set and you don't think that requiring that skill set is important. It shows me a lack of personal integrity and work ethic and again I don't ever want to work with those people.

[@KitBadger]

@@bobby398 #truth

[@FitnFire]

I can see that but really, they're not the same. The level of training and type of tactics are vastly different. Not to mention, I know a number of people that have never been in the military of LE and could run circles around most military and LE.

[@bobby398]

@@FitnFire flat range larpers don't count, nor do they rate.

[@truthjunkie9218]

Be a Hero, have the right qualifications for the job. Cheetos eating basement dwellers, need not apply.

[@magnetar2524]

WeeeThPpl I’ve been a basement operator for longer you been alive!

[@hughjanimal9734]

"Docta peppa, cheeto eatin mutha fucka!"

[@johnrice1943]

A few civilians have actually signed up to fight in Syria, not for us military. It's all about mindset and skills you've learned.

[@hughjanimal9734]

@Grim Sleeper SJW-tube? There is a huge right leaning to far right movement here. Get beneath the surface and you will find beautiful third positionist channels. I

[@noted_insolence1894]

I'm basically a basement dweller. Hoping to join the military, try for special operations at some point, and then maybe get into contracting... In the meantime, I just got hired as a security guard. So all ambitious basement dwellers, at least that is an available first step (Though I'm also a college student which probably helps....but I will never forego the cheeto lifestyle!!)

[@RimfireAddicted70]

Quote of the video: "Hey, I'm good at Call of Duty, hire me." LOL He never fails to deliver a zinger! Carry on brother.

[@KitBadger]

Haha, thanks Jory, will do. :)

[@Joeyratatouille]

Not interested in security contracting that much, but damn I can't stop watching this dude just chill w us while building fires. Shits so relaxing

[@agentdarkside5382]

I’ve been considering eventually going into contracting, your videos are very informative. Appreciate the accessibility to content like this.

[@KitBadger]

Right on Jakob, thanks for watching.

[@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS]

I hope this video doubles your sub count like the last one. Thanks Ivan.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks buddy. :)

[@gabrielduran1369]

Kit Badger hey brother, I got out of the military (11b) and the money in the area I live isn’t there. I can’t move but I am willing to relocate for a while overseas. I have been kicking around the idea of contracting for some time and am more serious about it now than ever. I was considering possibly some static work. I am currently talking to triple canopy and I’ll tell you after watching a few of your fireside chats and getting educated a little bit more on this trade, the offer they’ve pitched to me seems pretty light (200 a day). I don’t have any spec ops experience, unfortunately. But I know the window for more lucrative positions are still there. The questions I have for you: Is price usually negotiable or is it firm on the contracts? And I have only spoke to one company, if you can shed some light on other companies that I can possibly scope out that would be great. Pretty much looking for any and all info for help in this decision.

[@0x1337feed]

Certainly has for me.

[@180SecondIdeas]

I turned off the sound and just watched the fire. 10/10 would recommend.

[@KitBadger]

I usually leave the sound on, but vacuum while I watch...

[@dontask8979]

@@KitBadger Lmao

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Who cares and does not substitute for a Real Fire.

[@KeepMovingForwardAlways983]

Truthfully man I missed my chance at the military and I kinda regret that, but when I hear guys talk that they can do what the military guys can do Without basic training and military experience I laugh. Man the only thing I know that I have experience like any military personnel is training my body to breaking points and rebuilding it, but as I said “training”, even your body has to be able to respond to live action experiences, different climates and etc. I don’t care how much training you do back at home, you need that military base training to get your body, mind right to be able to perform as Ivan alluded to in a tactical operating team fashion. Salute to you guys and gals who do this kind of work.

[@thesadprepper3722]

Im currently in the Army. 31B here and ive really been looking into getting into security contracting when I get out and these videos are really helpful.

[@phoenixghost1099]

You could just say you are an MP lol. You want to do contracting? Why not join infantry then?

[@RyanLackey]

I did a bunch of stuff in Iraq (and later Kuwait, Afghanistan) with zero military background and zero clearances at the start. The trick was 1) knowing people and 2) technical skills (not trigger pulling), but then working for companies (locally, non-US) which did their own security. I got to do well-paid computer/satellite work and also got my Hi-Power/AK fix, and then moved up from there to my own company. Security contracting for a specialty security org is way less interesting than security+actual customer deliverables at an org which does something other than just security. Making calls about whether driving low-pro to Baqubah/Warhorse vs. cadging a helicopter ride from another customer vs. skipping the contract, etc.

[@leeoutlaw23]

Are you a criminal defense lawyer??

[@julmdamaslefttoe3559]

can you explain to me how to get started? I live in the UK, with only medical training, I am proficient in firearms but no licence to show it

[@gethigh961]

Simple just go to serve in the army/navy/marines and finish your service, you will meet a lot of people and they know many other people that already work in security contracting thats how they recruit because they want already trained soldiers not desk heros

[@SlowrideSteve]

I think what most civis know nothing about what being removed from the real world for 9 to 12 months at a time is like. I'm glad I talked myself out of that job that came around some months ago. It's just not worth the money, risk or heartache that goes with that life. I left my beloved Corps behind for a reason

[@KitBadger]

#truth

[@TheMonkeygrunt]

Ah devil dog you should know better, you can never leave the Corps behind. You can leave service, but the Corps done busted in that a-hole to many times, it will always be with you.

[@jasonhymes3382]

I'd think that the "real" world is being in the field and the fake world is living a comfortable life of leisure in America.

[@Noblezim711]

@@jasonhymes3382 Depends, on your perspective. If your from there than that is your "Real World" If your not then it's wherever you came from. Life goes on without you back home, people go about their lives, and you are stuck in a little bubble wherever you are.

[@Sebomai-b8i]

the whole world is the real world, it's all about state of mind

[@KarlPHorse]

"Some companies just want warm bodies." All I took from this is that you can lie your way into almost any job. Resume: 2 years undercover security operations specialist (loss prevention) 3 years cargo transportation in high violence zone (doordash driver in detroit) 5 years field medical operations (school nurse)

[@tobiasreaper3650]

4 years DHS uniformed counterterrorism division (TSA contractor)

[@DemonDragonGD]

Moral of the story, get experience before signing up. You don't want to put yourself and people around you in danger. More importantly, will not.

[@WarPig1911]

"No, no its not cool man." Quote of the day.

[@lilyinthevalley8107]

It's actually very relaxing to watch, the fire, the snow and a soft pastel coloured sky.

[@mahbuddykeith1124]

Despite all that, I'm going to go for it. I'll be working on my fitness while applying for the military. After that, I'll see if I have the mental fortitude for military/security contracting work and work things out from there. Still, it's a refreshing reality check that I can't get the job unless I meet the prerequisites, like all jobs, I suppose. It's something to work towards.

[@KitBadger]

Right on man, good luck on your journey.

[@stuartmiller8632]

I wanted to come on here and be all judgy...but it is spot on. 10 years in and couldn't have said better myself. Pay heed, all those looking at getting on somewhere. This is the reality.

[@KitBadger]

It’s a trap. :)

[@ConnorLipke]

There's contracts in America, don't need to go overseas. I work a housing authority security contract. Tons of money to be made doing security for schools, DMVs, public housing, etc - while being far lower risk than a contract overseas that requires military experience.

[@moss8702]

How much is your salary?

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Facts

[@gregorydelvalle7740]

Appreciate your genuine sincerity. You can hear it in your tone and demeanor. It is heartfelt. Thanks for the insight. This was a dream I let go many years ago as a 19 yr old wanting to do this work. When I heard the SEAL say 98% divorce rate I said no thanks. I have 3 adult kids, 4 grandkids and another on the way. The SF or Contract Work doesn’t scare me to this day. It’s the affects on the family life- the true treasure that made me put my dream to the side. Much respect to you and all SF and Patriots. God, Family & Country.

[@KitBadger]

Those careers come at a high cost... Thanks for watching Gregory.

[@OperativeKANE]

"Pfft...Bob...dude...whatever..." I'm contracting right now and I tell ya man this speaks to me. That's all you had to say and I feel like I could describe him too you perfectly haha

[@gavares3]

ohhhh wait now I wanna know about Bob the plank bearing navy-seal. let's call don Shipley in to give him hell.

[@ADR.1993]

B.o.b Bunch of bitches?

[@columbiariverdetailing1943]

When I started contracting, my hsem degree, and prior service got me in pretty quick. 3-4 month rotations. Did it for a couple years until our 3rd kid came along. And wife said no more lol.

[@ozarka1644]

Very informative! I'm still very young and have 2 dreams one as an audio engineer, and another with special opps, and eventually sec contracting. Got a better understanding just need to give it good thought! Thank you!

[@KitBadger]

Audio Engineer sounds safer and probably more lucrative, but good luck on your journey. :)

[@Neonagi]

Love the fireside chats about military related professions. Good stuff.

[@KitBadger]

Haha, right on man, thanks for watching. :)

[@FitnFire]

That thumbnail though and building all the fires. 😍😍😍 Loving this content...your Channel is the best!!!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks buddy. :)

[@mschrage618]

I was lucky enough to get a job offer in this industry. I’m supposed to go to training in the spring. I wasn’t able to join the military due to prior medical history. I have an injury that doesn’t prevent me from being combat effective, but does make me ineligible for military service. I spent two years as a security guard and two more years working in the county jail, got my EMT-B , a security clearance , and an Associates Degree. Checked all the boxes and applied like crazy. Finally got an interview and job offer for a very entry level contract. Hoping to gain experience and move on to better paying contracts in the future.

[@KitBadger]

Good luck, stay safe.

[@clap5]

Great video, it gave a lot for people and myself to think about. As a civilian in my situation, I can afford to leave home for awhile. No family of my own, no debt, enough money in the bank to pay regular monthly bills as the come with no concern. The "why" do or would like to do something like contracting is the money and experience. I'd like to be able to take on a few contracts to earn enough money to make life easier down the road. With the experience, I'd hope to gain enough to the point where I could take a job part time doing something like reserve LE, NG mil, or become a instructor for LE, MIL,CIV, or other contractors.

[@KitBadger]

The experience bit should come first, from Mil / LE, before you go do something like this, and are a liability. Just my thoughts...

[@GolfRemoEchoGolf2]

I took a contract earlier on , not a bad life , anyone who is thinking about switching over or shopping, do yourselves a favor save the fat ass paychecks and I recommend staying single

[@shino9797]

Oof. That's a dose of reality for a lot of us. Seeing how I'm out of shape, only 4 years of navy, and only have a secret clearance probably means I have some stuff to work on for a year. Do contracting agencies look at other skills you have? I plan on going the EMT/Firefighter route at my local trade school in the mean time and figured I could take that over there and be of use.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Yeah, there's all kinds of work to be had based on your background for OCONUS contracts- electricians, trucking/transport, HVAC, you name it there's a need for it. Poke around some company sites and see what you may qualify for, if you're looking for something outside of security try a company like PAE.

[@KitBadger]

That training is helpful as far as rounding out your skills, but most companies won't care about that, not for a security role anyway.

[@Theroadneverending]

Do your homework, look out for yourself, if new opportunities come take it immediately -Former Contractor.

[@seancoonery2559]

Austin Julius ok

[@richard1165]

I've honestly considered taking a look at IT contracts while I apply to more concrete career options once I'm out of the Navy (IT is what I'm rated). The money seems good, safer than security, and is a lot better than sitting on my ass waiting for something to come along. My TS\SCI will still be pretty fresh, so why not.

[@digital_human]

Thanks man! Great explanation, exactly what I was looking for.

[@Deadtorights0710]

I see Ivan talk about security contracting by a fire, I watch and like the video. I’m a simple man 👍

[@KitBadger]

Thanks for that buddy. :)

[@eisaatana96]

Yeah, you are mate

[@joshcasey8519]

Glad you don’t sugarcoat anything. I was Marine Corps grunt as well

[@alexfleet2454]

Great Information, looking at opportunities to contract when I get out of the Military.

[@11bbasterd]

Dude I love your stuff man. Just speaking the knowledge. I did 10 as an 11b but didn't get much of deployments back and forth from units that didn't deploy them korea forever. I'm using my gi bill to become a pilot tried looking up contracts, but the only ones I saw didn't pay shit without combat experience.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks man, good luck with the flying.

[@AlpinePellegrino]

Love this style of video. Keep the fireside chats coming

[@KitBadger]

Haha, right on Jon, I'll see about that. :)

[@georgiabowhunter]

Good explanation. The old joke is true. Everyone wants to be a cool guy contractor and every contractor is looking for a job back home that pays as well. It was good working with you over there. It was fun while it lasted but I’m glad to be done with it. Being gone for a 100 days at a time then home for 30 then gone again with kids is no way to live.

[@KitBadger]

Isn't that the truth, I'm glad to be home. :)

[@michaelbirdsong196]

i like how this dude just builds a fire and talks calm while he talks tcb

[@StarioSenpai]

I don't even want to do security contracting, I just enjoy listening to this guy talk about shit he knows about next to a campfire in the middle of nowhere.

[@KitBadger]

Well, thanks for watching. :)

[@ralphkroll8142]

Appreciate the advice and your time. Cleared up a few misconceptions. I enjoyed your video. Thank you for your service.

[@KitBadger]

No problem Ralph, thank you for watching.

[@xStripes213x]

I recall asking you about this in your previous video and appreciate you posting your video and I’m currently going about getting into Private Security.

[@KitBadger]

Right on, stay safe.

[@thehubster118]

I’m not interested in doing this, I’m an author and contract companies play a big roll but as I started to write I realized I didn’t know enough about the subject. This video was a huge help. Thanks man!

[@KitBadger]

Right on John, glad to help.

[@l.a.tobangkok4896]

Ahhh ... I think I'll just stay here...sitting by the camp fire with some hot coffee and maybe a little Jim Beam ..Watching and listening quietly as the Sun goes down and Moon rises up above this cold and beautiful snow covered wilderness ... as Ivan tells yet another great story.

[@gavares3]

^^^^ This guy smarts real good ^^^

[@Noblezim711]

I'm a veteran who has thought about, and had friends offer me contract work. The thought of it terrifies me. If your in the military and something bad happens then they are kinda obligated to help, and try to rescue you (Or collect your body). If your a contractor and something bad happens, I don't believe anyone is obligated to do dick (Maybe they have a QRF, maybe other company guys near, maybe another company will help, maybe the military has guys near that will help). I don't want to end up hanging from a bridge, or being dragged through the streets like those poor Blackwater guys. There are lots of things to consider in this type of work, but for me it comes down to this: how well trained the guys to your left and right are. If they aren't military veterans, then I wouldn't trust them. Even guys with LEO work are funky, because the training is different, and the job and environment they did it in is different. I get that with all the movies, tv shows, video games, and other crap that people think contracting is cutting straight to the good stuff. But if you really want to do that stuff join the military (You will get to do lots of cool stuff contractors don't do during training like repelling, mountaineering, SPIE rigging, HELOCASTING, PARA, and more they have lots of schools that you can get paid to go too), and they are obligated to care for you and help you live a good life after you've been blown up. Yes contractors can get VA benefits, but I don't believe they get medically retired (monthly income after you've been blown up and cant work), and I don't believe the VA will help convert their house for the new wheelchair they have to live in. In my opinion, if you don't think you could cut it in the military for whatever reason, then you won't be able to cut it contracting. If you wan't to be a contractor first become a soldier, sailor, airmen, or marine and server in a combat arms position. Then when you have a taste of what the job will be like (You will see them around when you are deployed), decide if you want to do it. If I was to enter into contracting today, I would probably be looking to consider a CONUS job. They don't pay as much usually (I hear some of the nuke plant guys make decent money), but you have a lot lower risk of getting killed or crippled than an OCONUS job in some war zone. If I wanted to do the stuff they do in the movies and tv shows I would get an acting job. Just my opinion, I have never been a contractor, and I don't think I will. I can still re-enlist if I get the urge to do something like this again.

[@UnsolicitatedWisdom]

Empor ! Attrocities were committed on both sides man.

[@airindiana]

I could sit and listen all day. Riveted. I’m not a military guy. I’ve met some contractors when working in the Middle East. I couldn’t do it. I would be terrified of getting seriously hurt or killed. No glamour. I don’t have the right stuff for it. I genuinely am fascinated and admire people that have the bollocks to put up with that risk. Very humble and friendly presentation.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks man, I appreciate you watching.

[@mark10108]

This is the exact content I was looking for. I wana get started in this field, I know Id be perfect for it. I have a high pain tolerance, I work out regularly and am physically fit. Ive had a hard traumatic life thats made me stronger and Im used to dealing with difficult people and situations.

[@speedyboi384]

cringe

[@mark10108]

@@speedyboi384 you don’t know shit about me goober you wouldn’t say that if you walked a mile in my shoes.

[@IrishPennant0311]

One of the guys I served with was a security contractor during the Taliban attack on Camp Bastion that took out a bunch of Marine aircraft. He said the Wingers panicked and it was the contractors who repelled the attack, but didn’t get the credit for it. He’s been known to tell Sea Stories though, so I can’t verify his claims.

[@C17HNO]

The most dangerous mercenary I know is a 125 lb woman 😂 She actually has lived a macho life, but you wouldn't know it. It turns your stomach to read about some of the sh*t she has done. But she's just giggly, and loves her job.

[@Garrick1983]

I listen to Prager U fireside chats,yours are great as well. Thx for service

[@terrypoole7978]

What your saying is true.I was in Irag 2011 and some of the Contractors i wouldn't supply with pea shooters."Respect".

[@jadedlotus8495]

The fact you're by a fire is a peaceful setting to an interesting discussion.

[@xserenadex6394]

True to your word, you dropped the video for us!

[@KitBadger]

I come through man. :)

[@Fight4MyCountry]

I reckon the simple way to answer the question of "I don't meet these requirements, can I get still get hired?" is returning the question, if they were the boss, would they hire someone that wasn't meeting requirements?

[@zexnynex777]

i think most of us just like Ivans vids before we even watch them lol, one of the few where that is always ok tell more stories!!!, we dont always need Kit vids!!!!

[@KitBadger]

Haha, well hopefully you aren't disappointed when you watch it. :)

[@pescad0]

Thanks I will stick to lotto tickets and the monthly matches

[@KitBadger]

Safer propositions.

[@seancoonery2559]

Yes

[@UltamateSacrifice]

I'm a COD vet, started my career with the Marine Raiders during W@W and retired after MW2. I know all the offensive and defensive tactics. I'm the person you call when you need 25man Nuke kill streak.

[@KitBadger]

I'm pretty sure they'll contact you. Those skills are needed... ...along with at least 4 years military experience in a combat MOS.

[@idraw4me181]

SOW’s are notoriously written to be extremely vague and that is a frustrating thing especially when you are working on a contract as a representative of the gov’t and another contractor is doing the work. The vagueness is just the worst.

[@KitBadger]

Ya, sometimes it is a mixed bag depending on how they are written.

[@Abrxas01]

Not just military either, but combat arms. I was comms, not gonna go out and try to be an operator. I wasn't trained for it and it's certainly not a 'fake it till you make it' kinda thing.

[@josephsaude6298]

How extensive does you’re military experience have to be? I was in a combat MOS but because I got stuck in a heavy unit I didn’t really ever deploy anywhere significant at all. I’ve looked into some who say they require combat experience or time in a combat MOS or 6 years ? It just kind of confuses me

[@KitBadger]

The more extensive the better, lots of vets looking for work... Just apply if it’s what you really want to do.

[@RoyalWorkz]

Love this video bro. I was thinking about applying but u just have me real deal. I have 4 years experience 13B, but I'm way more than likely not even meeting the criteria for it. Thanks for the real deal 💯💪

[@KitBadger]

Glad to help Lucas.

[@CorollaGT-SAE]

i feel the problem with security contracting is how glorified it tends to be in movies. so you get teens seeing it and wanting to get into it because they think it's all fun and games.

[@KitBadger]

The statement of work on most contracts will keep any of them from entering that world. And if they do get the experience through the military, they'll have hopefully matured to a point of being able to make a better and more informed decision.

[@dogmanusp45]

That would be a problem with hollywood, not security contracting.

[@KitBadger]

@@dogmanusp45 but movies and video games don't influence people... Hahaha :)

[@tylerle4199]

@@KitBadger they definitely do lol. Some movies like lone survivor heavily I’m pacts people choices

[@50shadesofcerakote]

another great video brother, legitimately think i might watch it again at some point, just cause.

[@KitBadger]

Right on, thanks man.

[@jamesrelinski8853]

Solid advice brother.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks James, just trying to put out some good info.

[@AvocaLu]

Watching in 2020, not even interested in the military. I like being infront of tech specifically coding...But i find your videos relaxing to watch lol.

[@thecraftyraccoon8668]

I think I'll find something else to do. I was just curious.

[@Goldenfightinglink]

From 10:00 on, the teamwork applies to fire fighters and cops 100%

[@KitBadger]

True.

[@andrewelliott123]

Outstanding job my friend!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Andrew!

[@JetPackDiddy]

Keyword : Security. That's why you go logistics or intelligence instead. But... being security specialist can be fun. It's just your desire and attitude. The difference between military and working for private contracting companies is the obvious... pay.

[@AlwaysAstral]

Watched this cause I used to work with a guy at a standard retail job that would talk to me every day about how he was going to become a contractor so I was just curious to hear what it really takes. Honestly a lot of what you're saying just makes sense I hope that guy never got into contracting since he was very clearly the kind of civie you're describing with no real military experience.

[@_Dogberry_]

Currently a 19K (M1 Abrams Armor Crewman) as much as I want to get into the Security Contracting world I don't think they have any armored vehicles that they need guys for.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Could get a gig as a driver for a mobile PSD team or executive protection, former 19K buddy of mine got to work in the Central African Republic on a contract as a driver few years back. Just gotta look around and put your resume out there.

[@_Dogberry_]

Derek J. I’ll try, thanks man

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

@@_Dogberry_ Np, good luck bro!

[@gavares3]

Well done badger-god. I never served in the combat arms, but I was a civilian in the Air Force and sat on the Pentagon and heard one too many horror stories about some of these companies operating over there. I'm still aghast at how many people simply think that since they have touched a gun, they are ninja Masters. If you do not have military experience, it's like you said, you are a liability, they aren't worried about the enemy anymore they're worried about keeping you alive. Keep doing stuff Ivan, make things do, and tell us what you had for dinner while you were sitting at that campfire. gonna get my kb shirt this Friday boss!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks man. And my dinner will be featured in the short Adventure Log series I'm posting soon. Spoiler, it wasn't amazing, but after a long hike up, it tasted amazing... :) Awesome on the shirts too!

[@justsomeguy3931]

Thanks for the info and being real. Beautiful background, are you in Alaska?

[@KitBadger]

No problem, thanks for watching. I'm up in Northern Idaho.

[@D1oyd]

Could you make a video talking about your military background... great video by the way

[@KitBadger]

There are lots of them. :) kitbadger.com/float-tapes-part-1/

[@CleverStealth]

Love how nobody in the comments section mentioned the honeybadger sitting right beside him in the video. Has nobody noticed it yet? Lol. Great video man.

[@KitBadger]

Haha, thanks man. :)

[@berniegran4785]

You have a very calm voice, you sound like you have no anxiety at all for someone that works in security , whats your secret to sound só calm?

[@KitBadger]

This: kitbadger.com/uncanna-full-spectrum-cbd-oil-part-3/ Hahaha, for reals though, I don't know. Mindset I guess.

[@badraccoon333]

Actually trying to begin security contracting.... 6 years military, 5 law enforcement with a SWAT cert and 2 dozen+ raids. Any advice on which companies to push for? Applied to Blackwater and Algiz so far.

[@KitBadger]

Try SOC.

[@badraccoon333]

@@KitBadger thanks.

[@MattMatterson]

bing bong their dreams are gone hahaha

[@KitBadger]

Just like that... *snap*

[@joshuahasty8619]

Thanos snap I meant

[@paulosouza3369]

I'm leaving the army after 16 years of service, infantry NCO. The plan is get some training at an agency like ESA or any other for half a year and then try to get myself into the market.

[@futhermucker1]

>>>Another thing that gets people DQ'd is if they have a percentage that they are claiming through the VA or DAV for injuries while on active duty service. No company wants another liability. That's just business. People also forget that every Secret or TS clearance has an expiration date to it. If you didn't renew it then you don't have it. The contracting community isn't as big as most people think. People move from company to company picking up contracts and making new contacts. Everyone knows the same people after awhile. You tend to see the same faces just in shittier places.

[@KitBadger]

All good points.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Most companies have veterans preference in the hiring process, but definitely going to be harder if there's a lot of mental health treatment through the VA to get approved or sponsored for clearance if at all very true there. Definitely see a lot of the same faces, and surprisingly seen a couple retired cops in their 50's that passed the training stages getting positions for OCONUS contracts (non-swat too), there's a bit of a need for qualified people even now where spots aren't filled by company/contract hoppers.

[@gavares3]

domestic defense contractor here. this is absolutely true to business stateside in defense contracting as well. I have switched companies 5 times in 10 years but still work on the same base, same mission, same people. and, ts-sci is definately a money grabber. get your security clearance as early as you can, and occasionally have your security officer check you in jtids or disco. 7 year expiration for my ts-sci.

[@KitBadger]

@@gavares3 ya, contracts go up for re-bid and you just change shirts if you have your clearance. :)

[@Loneranger670]

Legend has it that he is still making a fire ( and talking) with all that wood he had

[@restlesssgt3893]

I wonder how long a TS clearance lasts? I got mine for EOD school like 5 years ago.

[@KitBadger]

Around 5 or 6 years I think.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Right around there, check the State Dept.'s website or reach out to a company HR rep/recruiter to see for sure too.

[@haroldcardona2151]

10 years

[@shalawpj8178]

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