Security Forces does more than gate guard duty

[@tacbear]

13 years as a SP ......never worked a Gate , not even 1 minute!! I am a Former Security Policeman 6 years Active/9 years Air National Guard and I can tell you I wouldn't trade my time in the USAF Security Police for anything ...I loved it! It is what you make it. I was stationed at Dyess AFB for 3 years in the Strategic Air Command..we had a squadron of B52D's..4 Nuclear uploaded on alert at all times. We also had 3 squadron's of C-130's. I did Fly Away Security. We trained 4 times a year in ABGD at Ft. Hood Army Base against the US Army 7th Calvary Scouts. I was on one of the first EST's..Emergency Service Team's (SWAT) in the Air Force. I got to attend the FBI SWAT School and we got to put on EST demonstrations along with the Combat Control Team across the street from Security Control. (We loaded on 2 C 130's with a Combat Control Team climbed to 20,000 ft., the CCT did a halo jump. After deploying the CCT the 130's spiraled down and did an Assault landing on a dirt strip. We deployed in our Armored vehicles out the back of the C130's and took the objective, reloaded with the nuclear weapon we recovered from the Terrorists and did a Assault takeoff)!! I was stationed for 1 year in Turkey at a secret MUNSS site. I was the NCOIC of Arms and Equipment for the Security detachment and also the Team Leader for the RRT ( Recapture and Recovery Team) a joint Turkish American Anti-terrorist Team. When I rotated back to the World, I was assigned for 2 years at Langley AFB, VA to Headquarters Tactical Air Command. The unit I was in is the Tactical Air Command Guard...we were the Security for the CINCTAC (Commander and Chief Tactical Air Command..4 Star General). During my time in the Alabama Air National Guard I got to go to "Sliver Flag Alpha" in Indian Springs, NV, the USAF SP Desert Warfare and Survival School. It is what you make it, I did a lot of different things in the Security Police Field....AND LOVED EVERY MINUTE... except for the time I spent in a Turkish Military Prison..but that is another story!

[@skyhawk_4526]

Never working a gate just means you were a Security Specialist, not LE. On the LE side, everyone started out on the gates. The good ones would work their way over to patrol. They merged the Security and LE specialties of the Security Police into one specialty called Security Forces in 1997. The merger was pretty chaotic at the time since we had two separate academies at Lackland at the time, and us LE guys knew practically nothing about flightline security ops, and good luck sending a security specialist to a domestic violence investigation or a DUI call. I was in an interesting position prior to the merger because I was stationed at McClellan AFB and the USAF only sent LE specialists there. This was because we had a very small flightline security mission (consisting of three posts, Security 1, Security 1A and Security 2). The rest of the posts were all LE functions (gates, patrol and the comm center). But even though I received flightline training at McClellan, after the merger, I deployed to the desert, and I gotta admit we didn't know crap about actual security ops compared to the folks deployed there from bases with an actual security mission. I also went to the reserves afterwards and was stationed at Travis. This was a few years after the merger and it was a learning curve for me to become proficient on their flightline security ops - which were much more traditional and representative of bases with a REAL security-side mission, unlike McClellan (which only had one small, restricted area with a few Priority-C KC-135s on it and an occasional visiting transient Priority-B aircraft from another base on a stopover that we might have to guard. In any case, I agree with you. I left active duty in 1998 and I'm still in touch with a core group of guys from my squadron. We may have been bored or frustrated at times while we were there, but we all look back at it with great memories and pride that we were a part of that.

[@tacbear]

@@skyhawk_4526 Yep...I have a lot of great memories of my 14 years as a Security Specialist on 4 continent's and 25 years as a State Trooper SWAT Sniper/Asst. Team Leader. I still meet up with 3 or 4 of my Troopers once a month for breakfast.

[@skyhawk_4526]

@@tacbear That's awesome brother! There's a group of guys I was stationed with at McClellan, several near me, and several in other states, but we always meet up together now over veteran's day week. Some of the greatest guys I know!

[@thomasryan2679]

Four years as an SP-K9 handler. I did nothing but gates and guard work in arctic-cold weather. It's the worst job in the USAF. The needed Asvab score ties with becoming a cook. It's as much police work as being a school crossing guard. I've never made or seen an arrest in that time.

[@texaskubota1589]

Eh, they fly planes, they have the PJ's which save every branches ass when they need it. Sure they may not have the toughest basic training like you guys do but they do serve a purpose that makes our military great. Thanks for your service.

[@Grenadieros]

The woman at 0:56 suffers from the lack of sunglasses...

[@leoanderson7699]

Odd. In Vietnam we worked with the Marines almost exclusively and got along well. We jointly defended bases and were quite successful,none were ever overrun,even though damn the NVA and VC tried. This AF Security bashing wouldn't of happened back then. The bond back then I think was the Marines were under the thumb of the Navy and we used to be under the Army so we had a mutual little brother thing going on.

[@SlipperySlug3]

Leo Anderson A base was pratialy overrun actually.

[@faulltw]

@@SlipperySlug3 An air base? How is a base partially over run?

[@thomasryan2679]

Here you see their real colors. They're jealous snobs who couldn't score high enough to get into the Navy or USAF. They're pretty stupid too. Even their own branch treats them like children.

[@Saxon907]

tell that to the family of SSgt. T.J. Lobraico, USAF Security Forces, KIA 5 Sep 2013 in Parwan Provence Afghanistan while on patrol with the 755 ESFS

[@WolfieRustin]

What's up with Marines always going onto KZbin videos of other branches and then bashing them (those guys must be really busy if they have enough time to bash people on KZbin)? Personally, I like to look at all branches equal. Also, here's a random thought: the Marines have no room to talk, since their branch is the second easiest to get into.

[@skyhawk_4526]

Marines are just jealous that we have better chow halls and more attractive women, and that the Air Force actually trusts us to do our job and think for ourselves without needing 100% supervision and direction all the time.

[@thomasryan2679]

Jealousy, insecurity, and stupidity.

[@charlesburke2379]

Historically speaking, each time new recruits arrive on Parris Island, the most frequently asked question is always: "Sir! Is it too late to switch to the Chair Force"? And subsequently, it always is.

[@thomasryan2679]

I earn 330k yearly from my original USAF training. Plus, I have a benefits package and take-home car. The brainwashed Marines can cut my lawn this summer.

[@F22Raptor723]

Thank you!

[@ryanmackenzie1603]

Whoever mixed the audio for this should be dishonourably discharged

[@dennyfarrell4388]

Ask a sky cop what it was like in Vietnam in 1968.

[@skyhawk_4526]

Or Afghanistan in 2008.

[@dennyfarrell4388]

@@skyhawk_4526 I understand. the only difference was that we had 500 guys a week getting killed in Vietnam. There is really no comparison. You did your thing we did ours. We did not just sit at the wire or hump the flight line. I personally was assigned to the Korean White Horse Infantry unit two miles outside the wire. Vietnam 1968. Nice to be home. No sapper attacks here.

[@jefflink14]

If you could get a video of raven training that would be Awsome please

[@Stormspartan]

Well the Air Force isn't equal to the Marines and Marines aren't equal to Air Force, they're two separate branches each with their ups and downs, no branch is better than the other, just depends on your own opinion.

[@thomasryan2679]

I worked with Marines who couldn't score high enough on the Asvab to join the USAF. The AF has never taken HS droputs.

[@TheOGfreek]

well yeah not equal in combat related but they still have a job to do

[@kellerweskier7214]

oh shit its the cops! lets out run them! .... is that an Apache?

[@barchetta575m]

More like an F-35 :P

[@stephenlyons4242]

Hey , Im DEPing in soon and i have an ASVAB score of 70. I REALLY want SF as my SC and i was wondering what my chances are of getting it. also, how soon i would find out if i get it. (on average of coarse)

[@Saxon907]

I didnt delete my comment, I edited and re posted it.

[@Don-hm4mm]

this isn't a statement, it's a headline

[@necromanteerrante8095]

What is the most elite in SF?? DAGREs?

[@pattersonusaf13]

Holy crap whats with the football in between cars on the traffic stop lol

[@lonewolfsim6837]

I want to join the Air Force after high school and do security forces dog handler.

[@skyhawk_4526]

I was security forces (Security Police as it was then) in the mid-90s). Back then you could be selected as a dog handler right out of training. I don't know about now, but sometime in late-90s/early 2000s, they required you to be an E-4 and do a second enlistment prior to being sent to dog school. It makes sense, really, since you want airman who already have some decent law enforcement and force protection experience before you invest the time and money in giving them a Military Working Dog. The MWD program training is good training though, and if you have aspirations to be a civilian LEO K-9 handler down the road, it's great experience. I have several friends I was stationed with who were MWD handlers and then got out and went on to become K9 officers at various civilian LE agencies.

[@steeveomatic]

Don't waste your energy on someone like him/her. I would be very surprised if their military resume extends past C.O.D. or Medal Of Honor. REAL veterans don't normally feel the need to trash others in order to feel better about themselves. Just remember, we serve(d) so people like F22Raptor723 can lounge around in his mom's basement, excuse me, his 'command center', in his poop caked shorts and play XBOX 360 all night long. Don't sweat it cause it ain't worth it! ;)

[@skyhawk_4526]

@@thomasryan2679 The eggs aren't going to shoot at you though. That's as dumb as saying a cook at Denny's serves their community the same way a police officer does. I appreciate the service of all military vets (I am one of them, who also happened to be USAF Security Forces and now a civilian LEO), but trying to compare a cook to a cop is no different than comparing a sailor who works in an administrative office to a SEAL. Yeah, they both served. But in vastly different ways that involved vastly different risks. I personally was involved in an on-duty shooting while in the USAF and one of my good SF friends was responsible for evacuating the Kobar Towers barracks after he saw the truck with the bomb in it pull up next to the building and the terrorist run away (he got an Airman's Medal for it). I also was in tech school with the guy who took out an active shooter armed with an assault rifle at the hospital of a base in Washington (I think it was Fairchild or McChord - can't remember now - it was almost 30 years ago) with an M9 pistol at over 50 meters distance after hauling ass to the scene on a bicycle. (He also got an Airman's Medal and another medal that I can't recall now.) I never seen a guy cooking eggs in a chow hall get awarded an Airman's Medal for their valor. Again - not trying to disparage some airman working in Services, but it's not "on the same level," as you say, as being a Security Forces member, just as being Security Forces is not on the same level as being Pararescue or a Combat Controller. They're all different and present with differing risks and responsibility levels. The airman who took out the active shooter did it because it was his job. If he missed, he could have been killed himself and countless other victims at the hospital could have been maimed and killed. My friend who was at the gate next to the barracks in Saudi was there doing his job. If he hadn't been paying attention, he and dozens more airmen and soldiers in the barracks could have been maimed and killed. The airman cooking eggs in the chow hall is doing his job. But the difference is that if he's not paying attention, the worse thing that could happen is a possible grease burn and someone complaining about their meal. I hope you can see the difference. If not, there's no hope for you.

[@TheOGfreek]

why hate on any branch? every branch does its job no one is better than another.except seals, seals are badass.

[@thomasryan2679]

Because Marines are envious and jealous. It's a branch which accepts HS dropouts. Besides all that honor and glory crap, they hate each other. They're treated like children by their supervisors.

[@markscanga]

You guys should really edit properly you have the names of the defenders wrong.

[@morrispridgen]

Your job is to make sure no unauthorized personnel get through the gates, and protecting the Air Force assets. Nothing more. Ur security, not law enforcement.

[@CatholicNicklas]

We do so much more than that

[@skyhawk_4526]

@@thomasryan2679 You must be CE troop. Lol. Or is it Services where you hand out basketballs at the gym all day because you can't be trusted to carry a firearm and make critical decisions?

[@thomasryan2679]

@@CatholicNicklas It's where security guards call themselves cops.

[@TheReconmarine92]

"Laying your life on the line" Stands behind a desk..............

[@soesterbergblue]

Don’t pick this job, I was LE in the Air Force which was good but, once they combined LE with SS to make Security Forces I got the hell out. It now has a lot of boring parts associated with it. Don’t be bluffed into this career field.

[@nowthatdayhascome7]

soesterbergblue It’s what you make of it.

[@skyhawk_4526]

It depends on your perspective. I was in your position too, served before the merger as LE and also for a few years after the fields were combined. The early years during and right after the merger were chaotic, but I think that's all been worked out a long time ago now. Some people actually preferred LE and some people preferred the security side of things. It's all an individual preference. I think you and I were probably just a little jaded because we signed up for and trained to be LE, and then in 1997, they threw us LE guys onto a flightline with virtually no training and threw a security guy into a patrol car with similarly little LE training and expected us each to do the other's job. I hated the merger at the time and also got out of active duty a year later. But after I got out, I went back to the reserves and went to an SF unit. Even though only a couple years had passed, it was clear the transition pains from the merger had been streamlined and taken care of. And the flight chiefs knew the talents of their troops. If you excelled at LE ops, you'd likely be assigned to base patrol almost exclusively. So, it wasn't really bad. Things kind of worked themselves out.

[@KrazyXWhit3Boyz]

Hey man lol this is the second video I've seen you comment on Security Forces, What's the deal? not arguing with you feel free to message me to talk this obvious problem you have....

[@sopian5758]

Amin amin amin ya Allah amin amin

[@nfd810]

Hey silverbullet, your chest doesn't suggest any type of combat, maybe your young punk attitude should check itself and not write checks it cant cash. Worked with many Stand up Airmen before that have done and seen more then your entire company has....maybe you should look into the jobs AFSOC holds and the high regard for perfection they require.

[@TheReconmarine92]

I actually don't hate any branch of the service, just don't like when Chair Force boys try to say that they are equal to Marines. Yeah, SEALs are pretty cool guys.

[@thomasryan2679]

I earn 6k weekly based from my USAF training. You marines can cut my lawn this summer while talking of how tough you are.

[@F22Raptor723]

Why did you delete your comment? You convinced me. Though I still think it's funny how he said he was laying his life on the line as he was standing behind a desk.

[@greenday5224]

Hey i saw you in another video xD

[@F22Raptor723]

What about all those Marines and soilders that put their lives on the line every single day?

[@RenegadeKatana]

What rank/mos are you? You sound like a guy that hasn't seen anything.

[@TheReconmarine92]

Corporal 0321 Reconnaissance 3 tours to Afghanistan. I've seen enough.

[@F22Raptor723]

"Laying your life on the line" HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@twoZJs]

Yes, it happens at times. One night, at Dover, I witnessed a MILF drove and stopped at the gate, half out the door, calling for support. She in some way had jammed her spike heel in under the gas pedal and was bare footed. The brave AP gently remove the obstruction in three seconds, in three minutes the traffic was at normal flow. Be kind to other's comments when possible here, keeping it clean.

[@twoZJs]

Yes, it happens at times. One night, at Dover, I witnessed a MIL-F drove and stopped at the gate, half out the door, calling for support. She in some way had jammed her spike heel in under the gas pedal and was bare footed. The brave AP gently remove the obstruction in three seconds, in three minutes the traffic was at normal flow. Be kind to other's comments when possible here, keeping it clean.

[@galaxycollectibles6577]

SF are deployed an provide security oversees for variesthings Army Combat Eng. Guard America's largest assets like Nuclear Weapons etc fire the same m9,m4,m203,m240,m249,mk19,50cal etc do ur homework

[@TheDave831]

you aint tough ,yea you a marine , but prob haven't been to Afghanistan lol ,

[@CRXPhil]

USA

[@futureairforcetacp1339]

😂

[@wickedtwintWo]

Seems like you guys don't like public photography I've been to the base on public property and I've gotten nothing but tyrants that don't Approve of the 1st amendment of the United States constitution what say you?

[@thomasryan2679]

Relocate. Move to Russia or Iran.

[@TheReconmarine92]

Ahahaha sure you have. Give any desk jokey Marine a weapon and he'll win himself a war, give any desk jockey Airman a weapon and he'll look at it like a foreign instrument. There is a reason that when a war breaks out the Marines are called in first and the Chair Force is left in the dust.

[@delms7418]

If you wanna be a COP get out of Military and be a REAL COP!... Othewise play cop on BASE and leave Civilians Alone!...