Sedation in ICU Patients (Part 2) - ICU Drips

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As an RRT student, I love looking at not just respiratory but also other types of medications my patients are on. I'm learning so much from you! Knowing what each drip does and what are the side effects help me understand why my patient's labs may look a certain way or why their respiratory system may be affected as well. Thank you!

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great talk!!! however in the ketamine discussion you said without LOC but showed with LOC (c vs s).

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Great presentation! I would add the issue of propylene glycol toxicity with high dose Ativan and that precedex is no longer indicated for bolus administration due to the severe bradycardia and hypotension. Otherwise awesome!!!

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[@nataliayoung3734]

The draw back, is sedation, in ICU, can sometimes cause PICS, which is post ICU syndrome.

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You are correct Natalia. There are certainly potential negative consequences for using sedation and should certainly always be considered when using. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!

[@raverkidloki]

What are the potential effects?

[@victoriagoods8557]

Positive: you speak clear and even pace which makes easy to follow you and understand easily. Neutral : maybe the dosages discussed first and a bit more info on each medication. Negative: my goodness one should type or write larger and more clearly. I paused video way more often than should to ensure proper spelling while taking notes. Back to positive: thank you for taking the time to create your videos and sharing with the world.

[@ICUAdvantage]

Thanks for the feedback. I do plan on doing a series coming up soon with a quick lesson dedicated to 1 medication. Also the writing I've gotten that feedback a lot so since then I've worked to make my writing bigger as a lot of people tend to watch on mobile devices I've found out.

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hi Eddie, Its very informative video lesson. Is it ok if you can make a video about conscious sedation?, thanks a lot. Im sharing your videos to our trainees.

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Hi I really like your class and write a note for each class. But could you do another style of writing so that it may be easy to see please? Thanks.

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[@ianshelton6662]

Thanks for educating us and bringing up the blood levels it's interesting to see how certain meds change a person's internal chemistry. I have never seen a triglyceride blood test performed for outpatient propofol sedation during dental procedures or in oral surgeons' general anaesthetics. Maybe this will be a new requirement for office and hospital-based Anaesthesia.

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Not really necessary to monitor triglycerides for short term use. More for longer duration infusions, like days.

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so great!! I wish you could also include how it's metabolized not to be too picky lol but great content amazing!!

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Yeah, in hindsight, that probably would have been good to include.

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[@Thumperwrestler]

A15:36 you said ketamine "does this withOUT loss of consciousness" yet wrote with LOC.

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[@samwarren7740]

Hi, can you explain the role of fentanyl in terms of sedation? I have sometimes seen fentanyl used with versed or fentanyl with propofol? Thanks

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So our pain meds work synergistically with our sedation and together can lead to decreased usage of both. The main takeaway though is that when patients are sedated, it obviously becomes hard to determine if they have pain, thus we have to look at vitals and other indicators to try and determine if they have pain. Especially for things that we would expect pain, we should expect to have pain meds along with sedation.

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@@ICUAdvantage Thanks!

[@javiereg956]

Hey Eddie, thanks for the video it was very well done and the information is concise. I wanted to ask you to make video regarding sedation vacay (sedation vacation), SBTs, extubation etc. Maybe I missed it, but I was looking through your videos and I haven't found it. Thank you. -Javi

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Hey Javi, thank you so much for the awesome comment and taking the time to do so. Your suggestion is a. good one and also one that I've received before. And you are correct that I haven't done one yet. I have added it to the todo list for a future lesson! Thank you for taking the time to comment and for the suggestion!

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That was very helpful. Thank you so very much!

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Great video!!

[@candice-leeclifton3019]

What are the chances that one can suffer sedation overdose from the hospital in ICU. I have a sneaky suspicion that my husband lost his life this way a week ago? Do I insist on an autopsy or will his medical records show this?

[@ridsy9342]

this is very unlikely as a classic overdose is characterized by respiratory failure. In the ICU, patients sedated are mechanically ventilated through an artificial and secure airway also know as the ETT or breathing tube. The ventilator usually is set at a specific respiratory rate which would prevent this from happening. Now overdose scientifically refers to drug toxicity, which would also be shown in autopsy. You could request toxicity screens if you would like; however, this would also reflect on the patient’s labs since organ failure(s) would be present and practitioners would see clear signs. In other words, this is all very unlikely.

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Can you turn on the subtitle please? English isn't my first language so that it's hard for me to understand all the things you said.

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[@mariatabacaru3168]

How is the lipid composition of propofol affecting microbes growing in the IV tube?

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They provide a source of food for any potential microorganisms that may make their way in due to contamination. Better breeding ground than if it was just a normal medication.

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[@1231crazymonkey]

Hey Eddie new ICU nurse here, I recently had a patient going through severe ETOH withdrawal on a vent on multiple sedation drips. I know our RASS goal is normally 0 to -1 sometimes -2 or as ordered by our physicians, but for this patient I had difficulty titrating to a RASS that would keep them on track to a RASS closer to -1 while preventing them from awaking to a RASS of 2(agitation). In these moments, to prevent self-extubation and other harm to the patient, would a higher level of sedation to a RASS of -3 or -4 be acceptable since every moment of wakefulness the patient is agitated?

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Yeah there's definitely times that we how lower RASS goals for these patients, but depending on how easily they are awaking to agitation, one could also argue they maybe really aren't a -1.

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What would be a good RASS score for a vented patient?

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Really depends. If theres no physiological reason to have them at a certain level, then ideally we'd like 0. Awake, alert and calm. But not everyone can tolerate this so really the closest to zero with the patients comfort and then physiological considerations in mind. -1 to -2 is common.

[@marilynNV]

I like to reduce sedation to the minimum a patient can tolerate, but some of my collegues think its cruel and will turn up the drips to make the patient sleep. The result is a longer readaptation process, am i right? And increased Risk of delirium, wich should be avoided at all cost in my opinion.

[@ruthanna4713]

@@marilynNV that really depends on the patient's condition and presenting pathology. And depends highly on which kind of sedative you have running. If you want a patient to be alert but it is necessary to run relaxants, it certainly would be cruel. Being awake, but not being able to move is not fun. The half vivid state of RASS - 2 to - 3 is also a tough one to go through, if you are confused and stressed out because of it. Something that can be an early indication of delirium, e.g. coming out of long trauma surgery, with prolonged low cerebral perfusion. It really depends.

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can i clarify, why you do not include fentanyl ?

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That's analgesic not sedative.

[@ticks4ticks4]

@@ICUAdvantage True! But this opioid analgesic does, in fact, have sedating effect! That being said, even morphine can be used as a sedative "chemical restraint" for certain cardiac patients.

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@@ticks4ticks4 Im certainly not saying it doesn't have sedating properties. But it is not classified as a sedative, and this lesson was on those medications. Fentanyl was covered in the analgesic lesson.

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Informative!

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Perfect!

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Midazolam lowers patients BP.

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Yes it can, but is much less than others.

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Mid-daz-o-land for Versed. ReVersed for Romazicon LOL

[@banirupadattachoudhury7476]

Lost my Dad to Covid last week. He was diabetic, high BP, but both were under control...on 14th day of low grade fever and no other symptoms, he all of a sudden started desaturating and before we know, he was under invasive intubation for the next 12 days before he passed. I wanted to know whether he was under pain despite under heavy sedation during his stay in the ICU...we are actually shattered at the sudden loss...specially my Mother...a 54 year partnership...my Dad turned 83 this May. Kindly reply

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I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your dad! 😢 This is all so tough on so many people and it pains me to see all of this. My thoughts are with you and your family. We do everything to ensure our patients aren't suffering while they are going through whatever they are dealing with and I'm sure this was also the case for your dad too.

[@JGPRAISINGOD]

Info was very beneficial in the video! I am prepared for the resurgence of ketamine!

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Yes!!! Me too! It's such a great drug with a lot of great uses! Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and leave a comment.

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On my experience, Ketamine is known to cause extreme bad trips and out of body feelings. Very surprised to Read your comment. Can you explain further?

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Ketamine is also a drug of abuse and some people who receive ketamine can get hooked on it.

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All the sudden in the pan

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Can you imagine Michael Jackson on propofol infusion "as a sleep aid" without an artificial airway?! Yikes.

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