Seed Bed Prep With John Deere 8235R and 630 Disk

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[@canvids1]

I just love your commentating on what you are doing Travis. It fills us in at least me as a non farmer on all the trials of your farm work and you sir keep it pretty darn interesting and I thank you.

[@MatthewHoag77]

I wholeheartedly agree.

[@larrysheriff8251]

Hey Travis that is a awesome disk! Hope the seeds grow great and is good cow feed. Take Care, Take it Easy and Trust JESUS !!!!!!!

[@lukestrawwalker]

I run a 23 foot White tandem disk pulling an 25 foot Unverferth double rolling basket behind it for my BIL in Indiana in the spring and it does a terrific job. The disk breaks up the ground and residue and really "fluffs" it like your Deere disk is doing. The rolling basket behind breaks up the clods, settles the soil, and firms it up into a really nice planter-ready seedbed. The double rolling baskets operate like a walking tandem, one behind the other on a rocking frame that is spring loaded to the main frame. The baskets are fairly small, as they're about maybe 8-10 inches in diameter, with six bars on them... the front ones are angled toward the direction of travel a bit and are "notched" or "serrated" or "rippled" across the front edges, so that they give a slight "chop" as they enter the soil, breaking up clods, and as the basket rolls forward the bars tilt with the rotation and pull out of the ground at an opposite angle, flipping up residue and throwing broken clods a bit to help break them up. The rear baskets have the bars welded radially 90 degrees from the center axle, so they enter the soil pretty "straight up and down" and leave the soil the same way, to minimize soil throwing and firm things up. The combination works REALLY well. The smaller baskets CAN "load up" with mud in VERY wet conditions, ie sloppy muddy, BUT the smaller diameter baskets also turn FASTER at a given ground speed than a larger basket does, so they clean out better due to centrifugal force. The only time we've had them "pack up" with mud is when there's a rock or two trapped inside the basket for the mud to stick to... We have to knock fist to softball size rocks out of the baskets that get wedged between the bars, and in a few revolutions they get pounded inside the baskets... but a few well placed blows from a long 1.5 inch pry bar (an old combine feeder house shaft) will knock them right out from the inside of the baskets (newer ones designed for rocky ground have one bar cut out of each section between the reinforcement disks that support the bars of the basket, so the rocks can roll out on their own. His soil is a sandy loam, so even if it "packs in" in mud it usually breaks up pretty fast and slings out once you get onto drier ground. In heavy clay like our Texas "gumbo" soils you wouldn't want to run it in ground that's too wet-- heck even tandem disks here will plug up with mud that will pack in between disk blades and onto the spool so tight that it will turn the disk into a roller, essentially... If it's that wet you just have to wait for it to dry out some, or work on drier ground and leave the wet spots til later. The larger baskets have more clearance and probably don't tend to pack up as quick, BUT, they don't rotate as fast for a given ground speed (smaller tire rolls at a faster RPM than a bigger tire at the same ground speed, because of the difference in circumference-- same thing applies to larger diameter baskets versus smaller diameter baskets). SO, rolling slower, they have less centrifugal force to eject mud and break it up than smaller faster rotating baskets (faster rotation equals greater centrifugal force). Anyway, I think you've seen the light on how much even the single-gang rolling baskets do on the back of that VT Earthmaster... The double baskets do a great job too. I know when I'm running the disk, I have to stop occasionally and knock melon-size rocks out of the disk that get wedged between blades and lock up the gang... (using the same big pry bar). When I walk between the disk and the basket, the ground is SO mellow and full of air and "fluffed up" from the disk, I sink in between 2-4 inches as the ground collapses under my boots... yet I can walk around behind the rolling basket, where it has firmed up and leveled the soil, and sink in about an inch-- the inch of loose crumbled clods and residue on top of the firmer moist seedbed underneath, which is EXACTLY what you want for planting-- a little bit of loose crumbly stuff and residue on top to prevent blowing or crusting/washing in heavy rains and excessive drying from solar heating of the soil surface, yet a firm, moist, mellow seedbed underneath with plenty of moisture ready for seed to imbibe when planted. I think if you teamed that 630 Deere disk up with a good used Unverferth rolling basket, you could prepare your ground just as well as that VT can do for a fraction of the cost of that new VT... The only thing I can see that the VT really has going for it is the rolling baskets on back and the sawtooth blades on it... well, heck, you can buy a good used rolling basket at a sale or dealer and put notched blades on your Deere disk a lot cheaper than buying a new mondo tillage tool like that Earthmaster... which is basically just a "low concavity disk" and not a *TRUE* "vertical tillage" machine (which would have flat blades that aren't moving sideways in the soil-- ie mounted with the axles 90 degrees straight across from the direction of travel... that sideways motion of the blades in the soil of a tandem disk are considered to cause compaction layers in the soil due the soil sliding sideways before the blades lift it and throw it-- which is why it forms a 'clod'...) Course yall can do what you want but honestly I would at least look into the possibility of adding a hitch to the back of your disk and pulling a good used rolling basket (2 feet wider than the disk is ideal) behind the disk... I'm waiting for them to tell me it has FINALLY quit snowing and dried up enough to actually get in the fields up in Indiana so I can head up for land work and planting season... Later and good luck! OL J R :)

[@kylebuchmann8585]

Thanks for the vlog the rest of the story nice to see a tractor working

[@johnrill7057]

Hey Travis, nice to see your big boy, the 82 pulling that 630 disk. The video quality, as well as the narrative, is outstanding.

[@larrybg9293]

Good stuff stay safe

[@lincolnklabon6283]

I'm glad you guys are out doing field work. Here in North Central Wisconsin we still have 6 inches on the ground and are forcested to get another foot. Tonight. GREAT VIDEO BY THE WAY!!!!

[@thedonleroy]

Boy I envy you guys. Here in west central MN it will be at least the end of the month before we get started. We have several inches of snow on the ground with more possible this weekend & 20's for highs for the next few days.

[@tristonthefarmer3176]

You guys are lucky us South Dakota people have another 6inches of snow coming tonight for us

[@cassiuspuckett8789]

Damn!!!! Hey, Spring is here!! Great video, Travis...

[@waterskiingfool]

Looks like it was tilling up nice

[@birdsnestfishing698]

Yes my favorite time of the year for farming videos!! I liked how you did this one with more then one angle again like last year. Looking forward to another great year of the rest of the story

[@MatthewHoag77]

Tillage season is finally here. Turning and burning; kicking @ss and killing grass. It's the Kuster way. Thanks for the video!

[@clinthochrein888]

Oh this bring back great memories.

[@gavinhatfield1472]

You are very lucky to be in the field we are under a flood advisory

[@ztj-vv9zp]

Wow Travis, disc doesn't look like it's doing too bad of a job this season. Good to see :) have a good day

[@nickstamp6957]

Dude I love your channel, (Ryan and Travis) and inspired you guys inspired me to become a farmer

[@stanleyjones4180]

great video travis thanks

[@larryfunk6348]

you guys are lucky be at least 2 weeks before they can get out in field here in southern Illinois all we have had is rain

[@PAHerefords]

Even from a distance, the 4020 looks good on that drill. Great new vs. old comparison

[@richardlechlitner50]

PAHerefords MPlayer

[@llewgibson]

I stumbled across your video mate, really love the content. Liked straight away, We should connect!

[@timmartin692]

Love the smell of fresh work ground

[@narutoxsauske4570]

Great video Travis

[@leol1682]

Like the video Thanks Travis .

[@austin-1973]

Up north we got 8-10in of snow over the weekend now we're supposed to get 5-8 more

[@MatthewHoag77]

How far north?

[@austin-1973]

Matthew Hoag up north by Medford wi or phillips if you know where those are.

[@MatthewHoag77]

I know exactly where those two towns are. Originally, I'm from Saint Croix Falls, quite a bit west of Phillips. I have relatives on Hwy 64 near Sand Creek. I know how you feel.

[@austin-1973]

Matthew Hoag yea it sucks where are you originally from?

[@MatthewHoag77]

Saint Croix Falls, WI is where I grew up. (I updated my previous comment.) Of course, I've been living in Iowa for almost 22 years.

[@3maxin]

Nice to see you using the big tractor for more than the grain cart...

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Might put it on the grain drill yet. Jury is still out on that though.

[@MatthewHoag77]

Overkill is underrated. Just don't turn very tight unless you lengthen the tongue of the drill.

[@connerputz1059]

We started planting oats in central Wisconsin but I don’t think we will be for a while supposed to get 12 inches of snow tonight and tomorrow

[@robertreznik9330]

That is some really mellow soil! What is the Cation capacity of your soil? Our soil turns to dust if the clay structure is broken up by weather or tillage. Our Pullman Series soil is very productive and has produced 450 bu corn per acre. Our area became the Dust Bowl before farmers learned to manage it.

[@colbypollock8913]

what we usually do to smooth the ground out after the disk is we drag a telephone pole behind the disk.

[@jadenjk25]

With 10 more inches of snow coming tonight it will be awhile here in central Wisconsin

[@chasesblog]

We run our disk every year as it’s our only plow currently that can handle wheat stubble without balling up but our only issue with it is that it leaves a ridge in the field

[@reptiliantuna1503]

Our john deere 615 disk also makes the soil sorta fluffy

[@Trevor-fb4bz]

We use a moldboard plow for hay ground when it’s time to rotate so much faster than a chisel plow

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

I've never ran one...yet 😀

[@davidharris6581]

Good Job Trav!

[@jerrynibarger9148]

Wow you are hard on that disk. It's pretty hard on the gang bearings turning sharp turns with it down. That tractor runs away with that disk. lol

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Not going to pick it up for every turn we make in a day. Wouldn't get anything done.

[@rmack48]

In my opinion, I prefer cultivation over increased chemical use. I can never really understand the idea of spraying down alfalfa instead of ploughing it back into the ground in the fall before you put a crop in the spring. Probably there are a lot will disagree with me but where I came from it seemed to work pretty well doing it that way.

[@derekcrowley330]

Nice video Travis you’re the best

[@noelhohberger1188]

I wish I could smell the dirt through my phone lol

[@iowadairyboysFarms]

Looks like fun

[@adogman12345]

Travis we have been there got ground like that we had to get out the old 7 bottom plow and plow cause grass so hard root ball did not tear up then disk you need a solid packer like a brillion three section solid packer one packer per section behind your disk that packer is on my video working ground 8400 that packer might help you a lot and both would be good match with that tractor

[@yvonnejohnson1557]

You ever of thinking run a 8 row corn head? Tks gary

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Yeah considering running an 8 row on our 9510.

[@johnmurphy8259]

We have a neighbor that no tills and he disk's his ditches shut every spring. All summer long as the crops are growing you can see right where he disked and it makes more bushels to the acre. He will also leave the disk down as he goes across the field the corn comes up faster as well as the beans. I disk my ground and chisel it I am not in any Government programs.

[@Philm88]

Ground seems plenty hard. Tires are not spinning with it in the ground

[@jaytucker8512]

Travis would yall ever consider selling the 46 keeping 82 and buying something like an 8370?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

The 46 is my dads and he has no intention of getting rid of it

[@ReolSPro]

28h straight ? nice

[@lukestrawwalker]

Sounds like some landowners are SO "in love" with no-till that they're really not using their land to full potential. IOW, if a pass with a vertical tillage machine with the least disturbance possible would improve yields and relieve some compaction, then "why not?" In my experience, some ground is best suited to no-till, and some isn't. Some farmers are better suited to no-till than others as well-- it's all in management styles and priorities and what they feel comfortable with. No-till is NOT a perfect panacea that will work perfectly for EVERY farmer on EVERY acre... no matter what some "fan boys" might say otherwise... Like most things, it has it's proper time and place, but it's *not* "one size fits all"... Later! OL J R :)

[@BagwellFarms]

What’s the plan for the oats are y’all going to graze them or harvest them?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

cut them in june and bale them

[@BagwellFarms]

The Rest Of The Story that’s what we do it’ll make some good hay!

[@dsmreloader7552]

Are you concerned about the soil temp ?

[@farmerboyjmd]

Why do you work the ground so much? I thought you guys want to try to prevent erosion.

[@williamgordon7548]

How many acres do you farm

[@jeffgixer5185]

The way the big dairy farms harvest alfalfa these days, 5 or even six cuttings a year they are lucky to get 3 years out of an alfalfa field.

[@Comet925]

Do you even use the pto on the 82 for anything other than the grain cart.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Not currently, but if I get into a bind I can put it on the baler and the discbine. My brother has a video of us cutting first crop with it a couple years ago.

[@Comet925]

The Rest Of The Story really I'll have to go look that up

[@joeyouruncle9850]

I'm so jelouce we got more snow last night it's a mud mess here

[@samdino1226]

Why dont yall make a packer to run behind the 630?

[@PhatboyHD88]

It goes “” If it ain’t Broke Don’t Fix It””,,, lol my pap used to tell me that all the time,,, hey who owns what tractor ? Isnt the 7600 yours ? You bought it back from family auction right ? And who owns the 8235 ? Or are they all owned equally amongst the three of you ? And the others ? Just curious buddy not trying to be nosey or anything..

[@PhatboyHD88]

John Haas does his brother own any tractors ?

[@dh-jh7dg]

how many hours are on the 82

[@Tractormanpj]

No till does not solve compaction issues period! The best way to go is actual vertical tilling either inline riping or disk ripping and an actual vertical tillage tool not a disk VT.

[@floydfarms1578]

Tractormanpj with no till the crop does the anticompaction work not the drill. So if you no till alfalfa you aren't combating compaction, but if you no till radish or turnip then yeah you fix compaction. That's why no till and cover crops go hand in hand, you plant your covers to do whatever work you need done like ground cover, biomass, anticompaction, nitrogen fixation, etc. It doesn't work for everyone, but where it works it saves you fuel and machinery costs and herbicide costs also if you use the right covers.

[@PaulsonFarms]

VT tools as well as disks still cause compaction. VT's were all the rage 5-6 years ago. Most have fallen out of favor due to the compaction it creates.

[@cbfarmsandtrucking5716]

Do u know that it it going to snow where you are?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Yeah, if it does it does. I'm not to worried about it. New Seeding does well after it gets some snow on it. That wont hurt it at all as a matter of fact.

[@hendrik1636c]

Not recommended to turn around leaving your disc down.

[@mattphillips4260]

can not see how yall are in the fields here it is so wet and cold here with whats coming down the pike at us i bet they dont do anything till late late this month to the first of next month

[@mattphillips4260]

i am mainly talking about just getting in to start with basic field work you step out in fields around here you better have someone with you to pull your butt out or you are gone

[@codysfarm9711]

when the next live stream

[@whjerts]

No dust