Seiko Sumo Gen 3 - Sapphire and 70 hour power reserve

[@lusitanonl]

Got mine today, it's beautiful, love the dark green.

[@TheSrAtlanta]

Marc! Stop saying "...shameless plug..." ! It's your damn channel! Do as you please.

[@islandwatch]

Very true!!!

[@VersedNJ]

I agree he is a reputable businessman that reviews honestly what he sells, and sometimes watches he doesn't. Marc is upfront. There are several other youtube watch channels who do the same, and are upfront. I have no problems with this. Better than those who "review" a product no matter, who have got it for free and don't disclose this fact. Now, I would love one of those new Sumo's in green, but fear of castration from my wife dropping $900 on one prevents me from it. And seeing this is an import, it is important that the source is reliable incase there's a problem.

[@sandeepc4343]

Liking the YWYW poster 👍 wish someone in the UK 🇬🇧 would offer such a comprehensive custom service! Great job and channel Marc!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@kongmw]

The green has such depth. Looks awesome!

[@islandwatch]

Sure does.

[@gilliebrand]

The green Sumo model is stunning, beautiful dial, and, hands. Upgraded Orients are amazing.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks so much!

[@Temporarychannelhomework]

In real the Sumo is a beautifully crafted watch, despite the size sits very comfortably on the wrist, and 70 hours is the perfect reserve to keep it running between use. For me is even the limit of budget I'm comfortable to wear everyday and everywhere. Plus mine is fully aligned.

[@Blair338RUM]

That’s an impressive power reserve for a $900USD watch. Thanks for the video, Marc. 👌

[@islandwatch]

Thank you, Blair.

[@Blair338RUM]

Long Island Watch Always a pleasure watching your stuff Marc.

[@J.Bradley.]

Hamilton...

[@joeschmoe303]

Tissot has a few also that are 70+ reserve for less than half the cost...

[@mikes.4136]

I am very impressed by these Gen 3 Sumos and the 6R35 movement. Thank you Marc.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for watching, Mike.

[@jmand63]

Beautiful green sumo and amazingly beautiful upgraded ORIENT models.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@fossilimprint2954]

That movement is just something I like a lot. 6R35

[@nikomos6276]

Just received this watch. For those of you complaining about the price, I don't think its overpriced at all. Perhaps the bracelet could be better, but how much watch do you expect for under 1k? The finishing and movement are far superior than any micro brand in this price segment.

[@MrBacillus]

Which do you have, black or green? I can't decide

[@aviduser01]

Great channel Marc! As I was watching the video, I thought to myself, I wish Marc would show the watch above the wrist bone and voila! You did! I also have a 6 3/4" wrist, so it's nice see how the watches would wear on my wrist. Please continue showing the watched in both positions. It is appreciated. Love the green colour!

[@islandwatch]

Lol, you are welcome!

[@watchyouwant1617]

Even though I appreciate the heritage of this watch I must say that Seiko’s pricing is just outrageous especially considering the fact that they did nothing new regarding the bracelet. But the green is beautiful no question about that. Thanks for the video!

[@axelfoley1768]

And at this price, the accuracy of the movement is atrocious.

[@underpar3250]

I don't agree with this statement. You're getting a robust iso certified dive watch with sapphire and a 70 hour power reserve for under a thousand. What do you expect? It's not as nice as my sbga031 but every bit as functional. This is a Prospex watch made and assembled in Japan. Not an skx007 from Malaysia.

[@axelfoley1768]

@@underpar3250 makes no difference. If a watch is too inaccurate then it's a sham

[@underpar3250]

@@axelfoley1768 Inaccurate how? Doesn't it keep time within factory specs? My second gen sumo does better than factory specs. Perhaps my 16610 running 8 seconds fast per day (after service) is a sham too?? Go to TRF and search "running fast". Not sure how this watch is a sham.

[@axelfoley1768]

@@underpar3250 the quoted +/- spec from Seiko makes this watch useless, a waste of time (get it? a "waste of time"😊😁). Umm ok i best be going then.

[@theguardian3431]

Beautiful watches! I actually love the fact that Seiko dropped the signed crown. I get really OC when the crown screws in and the logo is sideways or crooked.

[@islandwatch]

LOL, must drive you crazy!

[@jimmytwostones]

Fuck the crown. I’m more concerned the bezel, chapter ring and dials don’t line up. Seiko is a joke

[@lusitanonl]

Just got one and everything lines up perfectly.

[@jimmytwostones]

João Carlos Soares you’re lucky. It seems to be a 50/50 chance

[@smilingskull7827]

@@lusitanonl Same here. I have the 1st gen, no issues

[@socrispy7114]

omg that green is fantastic, better add one to the collection..

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@valjean3141]

Hello Marc! I do like the green color, it’s quite spiff. I also have an irrational attraction to the 70 hour power reserve- highly unlikely to make any difference in actual use, for me. This being said, I have also been thinking about modding an orange Seiko Samurai through LIW, adding sapphire glass and a better bracelet. That would still be $300 less than the new Turtle. I think your mod wins in that contest, at least for me.

[@islandwatch]

Awesome. We will look for it :)

[@BenA_DD]

Great video, mixed feelings bout these. Great movt. upgrade, sapphire a plus, but no ceramic bezel no signed crown no bracelet upgrade and a 50% price increase only reinforces the fact that Seiko has lost their mind when it comes to pricing and are no longer the value prop bar to beat.

[@islandwatch]

I get it for sure.

[@mr.e0311]

Who is???

[@TheDobbermn]

Spot on. Seiko is getting too expensive for their own good. Then there's the whole inability to align bezels and chapter rings problem.....

[@TheDobbermn]

@Hulk GTI But swiss watches don't have the QC issues that continually plague Seiko. You shouldn't cross your fingers when you spend $1k on a watch that you get one that actually lines up correctly.....

[@bubbab7792]

Good job Marc agree with you regarding the bezel. 👍

[@islandwatch]

Yeah, like don't cheap out!

[@primecreator]

Seiko have upgraded to a Sapphire crystal, woah that is groundbreaking Seiko.

[@islandwatch]

Lol. It is.

[@raymondrichardson6061]

Absolutely beautiful. Almost perfect. Needs the ceramic bezel though, for the money. I do prefer the bezel font on the gen 2., but still. Wow.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

These are some awesome watches. Happy to see you have them in stock. Will there be other colours? Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.

[@islandwatch]

Good question. You would expect a blue but I haven't seen one.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

I love that green, is it a british racing green kind of shade? any other seiko with that green? @@islandwatch

[@rhonda837]

does it use plastic parts and a lower beat rate to get the longer power reserve like the powermatic 80?

[@MrIliff]

I have a Blue Coral Sumo and I wear it daily. I really love the Sumo watch. I think they might release some new colours soon?, maybe. Surely a new blue version atleast and how about a Pepsi or Pepsi PADI!..

[@patrickh9937]

The 001/003 do have the signed crown. When the X went on the dial they lost that nice cursive “automatic”, though. FWIW, the signed crown isn’t really a big deal. I’ve never understood the clamoring from the Seiko crowd over signed crowns. It’s just a crappy “S”.

[@islandwatch]

True.

[@AndrewMinarikPhotography]

These look awesome! Hopefully they come back in stock, i dont see them on the LIW site.

[@simoncrawford350]

Very nice (especially the green), thanks for sharing 👍🍻

[@islandwatch]

You are welcome

[@goodnameyt6675]

Sweet watch. Sticker shock. It will be interesting to see what retail prices settle on.

[@islandwatch]

Yup. I get it.

[@richardthompson1781]

I purchased a Seiko Sumo with the 6r35 movement December, 2021 and I found that it does not keep very good time in runs too fast, if you want a better watch purchase a Squale $825.00 or a Longine Hydro Conquest $1080.00 mine are operating about +3 to 4 s/d...If you want to set your watch everyday purchase a Seiko automatic watch...I purchased my Squale from the Long Island Watch CO. 04/18/22

[@prowork7127]

I have the green sumo and it is really more beautiful in person

[@lawrencemiller6552]

End links are not the same on Gen 3 and the finish changed as well from Gen 2

[@craig2100]

Nice job Mark!

[@islandwatch]

Thank you, Craig.

[@redastrachan8978]

Bezel on Orient. Yes. British racing green on the Seiko?

[@islandwatch]

Yes!

[@albertcaruana2605]

Why does the case back not list "sapphire crystal" on this green Gen 3 Sumo? It is advertised as having a sapphire crystal. What this just an omission of branding?

[@airborneSGT]

The green model is nice! I got mine a week ago :-)

[@islandwatch]

Sweet!

[@skipast75]

You forgot to mention the case design is different. The inner curved area is longer on the 3rd gen. It gives the the case a larger overall look when worn.

[@ferdinandgarcia9586]

Is the black dial is called spb101j1? Coz thats why i have...

[@HammerK99]

The green is beautiful

[@islandwatch]

Thank you.

[@roberthuth7493]

Gutes Video,tolle Uhr

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@matthewreagan2384]

What microband are you talking about, H Moser and Cie? Who else does everything in house with crazy power reserves.

[@islandwatch]

You're right. But nobody sees that. They just see the spec sheet.

[@priyadarshanparsodkar]

Hi, What is the realistic everyday accuracy we should expect from these ? What is your experience with 6r35? Thanks

[@dustinwray2819]

Oh, hi Marc.

[@islandwatch]

howdie.

[@joeschmoe303]

^ Marc doesn’t get it...

[@50beowulf]

I didn't know you had a channel until I searched for reviews on the 3G Sumo. Any word on a new blue version? I'm on Long Island. Do you have store here?

[@YodasKitchen]

I like the green one too

[@JustWatches1]

I love the second hand on the sumo as well as the green version. Alas, it is too big for me! Oh, and a new movement from Seiko is super exciting!

[@islandwatch]

Very exciting, thank you!

[@Snek03]

Wow! Love the new Sumo! :O

[@islandwatch]

Thanks

[@sscott6085]

Hi Marc, Do you know how they have increased the power reserve? reduction of beats per second? bigger barrel? silicon technology? Thanks in advance Sri

[@scottjackson898]

Is there only one green? I’ve heard jade Sumo and hulk mo

[@MrIliff]

There is a gen 2 jade green Sumo and the new gen 3 green Sumo which is a darker green.

[@clontstable1]

Tempting, but not enough to draw me away from my Black 6r15 with my slightly scratched Hardlex.

[@jamesnguyen8775]

Hi Marc, do the existing strapcode sumo bracelets fit this gen 3 update?

[@islandwatch]

Seems like the same case. So I imagine so, but haven't verified.

[@justguy7086]

Im considering to buy either Hexad or Angus? Which one better matches Sumo ? Some people say that Hexad does not match Sumo and the best is Endmill

[@randynovick7972]

Tempting. Would look great with one of those StrapCode Angus bracelets, I think.

[@islandwatch]

I think it would.

[@JeremyJakeWest]

It does. Looks awesome! I have my new green Sumo on a Strapcode Angus Jubilee. The Hex from Strapcode also really suits this new Sumo.

[@justguy7086]

​@@JeremyJakeWest Im considering to buy either Hexad or Angus? Which one better matches Sumo ? Some people say that Hexad does not match Sumo and the best is Endmill.

[@JeremyJakeWest]

просто медик For me the Angus Jubilee matches better on the Sumo. I have a Hexad on my Samurai...don’t like the look on a Sumo.

[@justguy7086]

@@JeremyJakeWest what about Endmill on Sumo ? Is it good looking?

[@OMMalternativeInvestments]

Cool video. What do you think about the limited edition spb125j1?

[@thisisvarv]

Mark, you gonna do bezel inserts for the sumo aswel?

[@dibendinopol8902]

Good day.. i hv 6.5 inches wrist will the sumo fits me right? thnx 😊

[@manishsoni7689]

What about the bracelet? Is it good, bad or what?

[@PhylumFile]

Nice video! I’m afraid the sumo is just too damn big for my 6 ½” wrist. I have a gen 3 monster and that’s about the limit for me size-wise. Looks like maybe an sbdc053 or 63 paired with the 051’s or 061’s bracelet for me when I get around to a more traditional seiko diver. Seiko needs a 39-40mm diver with a winding/hacking movement- I’d be all over it!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks Tony!

[@evh4611]

My blue Seiko Sumo mk2 has an after market sapphire crystal and i am wearing it on a crafterblue rubber strap. Fantastic combo

[@jntroisi]

The end links are also different. Gen 3 is integrated better

[@michaelsuede]

Dude - You have to put the "Your Watch Your Way" bold and prominent on your site. I couldn't 'find it. I only got there because of the video notes.

[@islandwatch]

Left side, Custom Watches :)

[@lhogie1962]

Any suggestions in seiko 40 mm diver

[@galaga8834]

Marc, could please when you have time put these movements on the timegrapher?

[@islandwatch]

I don't like to do that publicly as it's not indicative of the line.

[@galaga8834]

@@islandwatch But you've done it for other Seiko movements when you compared 3 of them.

[@youareslick]

I still prefer the Orient Triton, apart from the 70 hour of course.

[@VersedNJ]

I have a Triton, bought it from Marc several months ago and another reason other than my above post why I wouldn't buy one. The Triton has to be one of the best value's in that style of watch. It's remarkable that Orient pulls it off at the price I paid (it was on sale) The Triton is something I can wear to work as an ER nurse that can take the constant washing and abuse and hold up.

[@surfitli]

I have a 2nd Gen Sumo, A really nice watch. The 3rd Gen I would say are nicer. Unfortunately, These cost twice what I paid for my 2nd Gen.

[@islandwatch]

Yeah, amazing.

[@Robo082]

Is it antimagnetic?

[@MrIliff]

They are anitmagnetic but I'm not sure of the rating off hand but you can easily find out on Google.

[@fungus70]

I prefer the bezel on the Gen 2. Looks more distinctive compared to Gen 3.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for commenting.

[@MrVespaGuy]

Having had my generation three for a few weeks now, and think it's fabulous, I was so disappointed in your review when you said you didn't care for the styling...I'm heartbroken.

[@dzikijohnny]

MrVespaGuy It has a Rolex homage look. That’s why I like it.

[@islandwatch]

:( sorry.

[@MrVespaGuy]

@@islandwatch I still loves ya, though!!

[@SSS-mp8th]

The movement and addition of Sapphire is nice but the price increase from last gen is huge. Keep in mind you can get Sapphire on a $150 Deep Blue. It’s why I got that over the SKX in addition to having a better movement on the Deep Blue (to SKX). I could totally see these listing for $650 MSRP but Seiko is trying to go up market and will just move more people to Microbrands.

[@islandwatch]

I agree with you in principle, but the majority of the buying public will stick with a brand they've heard of, not one with an octopus on it.

[@serafinmendoza6567]

How can i replaced my bezel and glass for my mako xl ?? Please help from mexico

[@chrisgreenwood271]

I have a sapphire in my MK1 and it doesn't have that bloody prospex symbol, I'll stick with mine thanks.

[@islandwatch]

Yup. That's the one!

[@CrazyCloudZen]

I have a MK1 as well and agree the dial looks much cooler. Still have my original crystal and it's perfect.

[@godscola]

Are there Baby Sumos available? Sumos are just too big for my 6 1/4 inch wrist

[@islandwatch]

None that I've seen.

[@jmskelly59]

Hi Mark. I LOVE Seiko but getting a good one ain't so easy. I can see some misaligned indices on the back version :(

[@jiayaw]

I never intended to buy one as these higher end Seiko are harder to come by in person and usually have to be ordered online. Then last week I happened to come across the spb103j1(the international model number of the green sumo) for $840 cad ($630usd) with perfect bezel and chapter ring alignment... I jumped on it without hesitation. Wore it for one whole day and left it in case to test the long power reserve, averaging plus 9 seconds daily. Love it!

[@winstonchurchill4389]

Hey mark any chance you think you gonne sell the orient maestro?

[@islandwatch]

I would say so, yes.

[@felixs_.burntbrownyxz]

So disappointed with the time keeping on mine! I’m sending it back to seiko, I’m gaining a minute a day, I tried winding fully, letting it wind down then wound back up wore it for a week and was shocked how much time it had gained!.. I need my watch to be more accurate than that, I have to make it to the gates in time at the airport to get flights etc and now I wish it were a quartz! I’ve looked into the 6r-35 movement and there is a lot of negativity, some saying the 6r-15 is more accurate, £720 uk pounds you would expect more!... also why not put on a ceramic bezel?.. regards , Ben.👍

[@seamasterist]

Absolutely Ben, I have the "limited edition, ha ha Black version". It does not run within tolerance, normally at least 30 secs a day and has done since out of the box, disappointed!! Ps please don't tell me to regulate the movement, as I said it's been like this from new!!

[@wanfahmy8017]

Got mine for about 1 week ago. Just noticed that the minute and hour hands don't aligned well when its 12 midnight. Quite a bummer. But everthing else is fine..

[@stanleynadulek4195]

Sorry Marc I prefer the Gen 1with the thicker font and signature automatic script on dial. Taking away signed crown makes the crown appear generic. I don't believe increase in price is worth what you are getting certainly not at $900.00

[@islandwatch]

Don't be sorry. Thanks for watching

[@jonuiuc]

I wish strapcode made jubilee style bracelets for the orient's... Or any style orient in black ip. The Ray Raven is begging for it.

[@goodnameyt6675]

Marc, any chance Aristo 5h100's coming back in stock?

[@islandwatch]

For sure.

[@goodnameyt6675]

@@islandwatch Thanks. Now that I know Ill wait for it. I was shopping.

[@daanprins6730]

These are beutiful. Really like the green. But be honest... On a 900 dollar watch ya shouldn't have to be worried about a miss aligned chapter ring...

[@terrybannister9221]

Hey Marc, great vid as per usual, I'm huge fan of you and your channel. Please can I get one of the posters for "Watch your way" it will hang in pride of place in my man cave ( watch room) I will also be ordering a skx007 my way very soon,I wanted to get it this month but I have to use my watch budget towards my trip to my younger daughter place for the birth of my grandson. Thanks for all you do man you ROCK

[@islandwatch]

Thanks Terry. If you want the artwork, just email me.

[@darrenlaws7989]

Does anyone know what gen the SBP101J is as I'm very keen on the Sumo to add to my collection.

[@otobotrecords]

Gen 3 - same as the SBDC083 in this video.

[@georgebeebe2385]

What otobotrecords said. I have the gen 3 spb101 and love it. I believe that SPB101 is the US market number.

[@jarodstevens2710]

Great video Mark as usual taking the signed Crown is really a deal-breaker for me... the 20 extra hours of power Reserve is nice but I'd just buy the Gen 2 and put a sapphire with a r on it and save three hundred bucks🤔 outstanding video man thank you

[@islandwatch]

Thanks! Makes sense

[@MrIliff]

I like the plain crown. More polished area to look shiny. If you replace crystal you may loose waterproof rating?

[@BernardManansala]

ARNIE!!! We want the ARNIE!!!

[@islandwatch]

Waiting. ..

[@cyan0xide]

i hate being a wristlet. The hulk sumo is so cool

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@markplayford5836]

They are nice but the prices are going up so much other brands are becoming viable alternatives, especially micro brands. Plus they are big boys too at 44mm.

[@islandwatch]

Understood

[@JohnFrumFromAmerica]

I feel like they ware well for a big watch

[@planetdee3587]

I do not feel the upgrades justify the price difference. At about $450 for the gen 2, it provides all you need.

[@zeke7564]

Venus Dee Where can you get the Gen 2

[@planetdee3587]

@@zeke7564 , Amazon has it

[@KRW628]

The Sumo was a bargain (maybe the best watch) for under $500. I have one. Now, with a new movement, sapphire, handset, and bezel font. they DOUBLE the price. This is just another $1000 watch at an crowded price point.

[@CorkKNIFE]

Michael Powell the Gen 3 is about $150 more expensive MSRP vs MSRP. Everyone is just charging full MSRP since this one is a new release. Should go to Gen 2 + $150 or so prices.

[@KRW628]

Cork, that would take it to about $550, which would be a reasonable price.

[@CorkKNIFE]

@@KRW628 I was wrong, the difference between MSRPs is actually $250. Still that makes it a $690 street price watch. At that price it's a solid deal. Now just have to wait until demand drops and Black Friday deals come around.

[@lusitanonl]

Damn ... one year later power reserve dropped to half 35hrs in stead of 70hrs ... :-( what's probably wrong?

[@larryleyba6496]

Very impressive look. But all Seiko divers look great. A tad pricey for me. I think I like the new, or older Monsters.

[@islandwatch]

I'm with you, a tad pricey.

[@pauljordan7465]

Tissot powermatic 80

[@cy4624]

Have 2 and they are garbage. Gets 0 wrist time.

[@tonyblocker5986]

Do they come with a rubber strap?

[@islandwatch]

Just bracelet.

[@tonyblocker5986]

Long Island Watch do you carry a rubber strap and is it in stock

[@prredo]

Video starts at 1:52

[@mykeldg]

Am i the only one who thinks the newer sumos look inferior to the new ones? Crown, bezel insert, dial, hands all look better on the old one

[@1968jpy]

mykeldg I own the generation X Blumo and I feel the same as you do . I love my Sumo and can’t see spending that much for a newer one.

[@z-collector7518]

Seiko is starting to push a price point a bit high for what they offer.

[@larvancioramos9748]

Novak Djokovic won wimbledon!! Jumping jesus Marc!!!

[@islandwatch]

Didn't even know it was going on. Was watching Bohemian Rhapsody

[@larvancioramos9748]

@@islandwatch come on Marc!!!

[@marianomartinez4256]

To my eyes, the best is the first Gen.

[@islandwatch]

Many people got bent out of shape when they added the Prospex X.

[@darrenlaws7989]

I believe it's the new 2019 version.

[@peterspaniel4872]

I recently purchased a Sumo MK3, SPB101J1 6R35. Quite disappointed with the accuracy, looses a minute a day wearing 24/7.

[@herbmerced7780]

Love the green color way...too big for me though...

[@islandwatch]

Thank you

[@waktosha7378]

These are sexy watches. I'm glad they have a 51 mm lug to lug so I can't buy one. 48 mm lug to lug is my max.

[@oes2546]

Agree. A mini Sumo would be great

[@islandwatch]

LOL

[@seamasterist]

Never could quite get my head around this bloke and his "Long Island" watches. Seiko uses Lumibright he says, really, and there's me thinking the lume might be superluminova. Please don't patronise your viewers!!!

[@Fnnggjji]

That clasp doesn't belong on any watch over $400

[@BetamaxBabe]

Agreed! Hell, any watch above $250 shouldn't use pressed metal.