Selection For Societal Sanity

"What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context."

[@Immadeus]

Executive at Konami around 2000: "Hey Kojima, how are we going to transition to the final boss in Metal Gear Solid 2?" Kojima after ripping the fattest blunt in Japanese history: "Ok, hear me out..."

[@tenshko5055]

He might have ripped a fat blunt, but not as huge as Serial Experiments Lain

[@BLCKCSTLS]

Thinking Kojima would need a blunt to come up with this is insulting.

[@user-pi1lb4tf2f]

​@@BLCKCSTLSObviously he only needs a wormwood.

[@skooterboots2444]

​@@user-pi1lb4tf2fnah, if we're talking speculative fiction this is definitely a bigger puff, the creators of lain had to do a lot of proper research but it's still super abstract. This is just so damn specific.

[@PliskinYT]

Ok hear me out, what if we had raiden talk to the illuminati while the former president dressed as doc ock just waits for the call to end

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

"Believe in yourself and you will succeed." "But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed..."

[@piercesable344]

Natural Selection and Darwinism is a bitch after all. Old days anyone who was sickly or had physical or mental defects were outright aborted or terminated, now medication and treatment has given them a slightly better chance of a normal life, only slightly that is. But alas, elitism eventually crawls into all aspects of life.

[@jcguevara7276]

Taking that one thing out of context kinda ruins the overall idea they were trying to communicate lol

[@TwistedFireX]

@@piercesable344Pride and greed

[@yukitakaoni007]

everyone can lift themselves up by their bootstraps - It was a lie…

[@elarmino6590]

A truth that some will never want to learn Or worse still, there are people who know it and use it to take advantage by lying

[@Aflay1]

"Try a bit of soul searching. You won't find anything, though" Damn. My inner Christian felt that.

[@Immadeus]

Kojima out here the deep cut slander towards everyone

[@Dante.the.inferno]

💀💀💀

[@Fatcat214]

Now i'm not saying Kojima is a psychic, but...

[@UncleButterworth]

I'm just going to pretend this doesn't seem accurate.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

...jesus, it's amazing how he knows yet he only said without thinking to warn others...

[@Fhrag161]

Tsyumamatsu TheHavenofGuardia he gave us this game. Simply saying it isn’t gonna get the message through to some people but experiencing it a whole different thing

[@whatisinpi7689]

No not really just a collection of thoughts ideas gathered from movies; as you may know movies came from books. The majority of Americans have decided to stay in the dark and thus remain dormant. Alot of events have been foretold like the one in Akita Japan over twenty years ago, more impressive are the ones that have been written in many books which we call the bible, we got the bible from thousands of years of Tradition which has had its share of prophecies quick have come to pass, most notable are the ones told of Jesus who would be crucified and rise again on the third day. Relevantradio.com

[@naturesquad9174]

@@whatisinpi7689 Keep your fetish to yourself

[@Virishking]

Well this seems to reflect the modern world, but the question is, what’s the bigger threat, what the Patriots tried to do or what they tried to stop? That’s part of the game’s brilliance. A horrifying enemy that itself was trying to stop a horrifying problem. This conversation is enough to throw anyone into an existential crisis. Few forms of media, let alone video games, dive into such deep concepts.

[@ArgentWolf95]

It is as real as it gets. Although it isn't by the Patriots in real life. Global Corporations and governments have decided to implement a human version of the S3 plan. At least the control of information part. Social Media companies and western governments have decided they are the ones who get to 'create context.' Both are equally the greatest threat to our evolution.

[@FronkZappa]

I think people who see Solidus as a tragic hero standing against the strength of the Patriots fail to see his motivation is no longer to free everyone from systems of control, but to impose his own onto the world. Just as Liquid represents the danger in becoming a slave to ones genes, such as circumstance of birth or ascribing strength to genes, Solidus could only focus on his memetic legacy. Only in becoming a new founding father and ensuring his image in the ever- increasing chaos of cultural consciousness could he feel a sense of purpose. I doubt it's a coincidence Raiden becomes the opposite of his paternal mentor. Solidus trained child soldiers hoping a part of him lived on through the tradition of war, and he treated Raiden like a surrogate son he could treat like a guinea pig, even if he did care for him on some level. Solidus cannot conceive children, so he became fixated on becoming a legend like big boss - the legend that resulted in the Patriots in the first place.

[@ArgentWolf95]

@@FronkZappa To be fair, Darth Vader is also classed as a tragic hero who fell into darkness because he wanted to save his wife and unborn child, but was manipulated and turned into the villain he becomes. My interpretation of Solidus is: He once did have motivations to free everyone or make America a better place, or fight the Patriots (it's not covered why he became President, or what for.) so it's up to interpretation. However his Dark past with training child soldiers is a shadow of Big Boss' dark side's legacy, so with training Raiden, he followed the same dark path of Big Boss. I do believe he was genuine in wanting to remove the Patriots and Bring Freedom to America, but he was too extreme, too fixated on becoming a legend of his own, that he lost sight of that and the consequences, which is kind of where the tragedy is. Solidus could have had a redemption if he was not so fixated and extreme, though training child soldiers is unforgiveable, but he could not be beyond redemption had he made better choices. I'd say I class Solidus as a tragic anti-villain- That is, a villain who wanted to do something good, but does evil things to achieve it. Or an anti-hero: Someone who uses very morally flawed ways to do a good deed. The tragedy was that he was created by Zero, and his life manipulated from that end. All three Snakes wanted to break free of their origins. But only Solid, the one who inherited the values of the Boss on his own without even meeting her (it's probably deliberate The Boss had some similar ideas to Solid). So in essence, Solidus had a good idea, but he still used destructive means and did even acts to achieve it. Still. The storytelling did have good messages to tell through Solidus. As I personally want to create my own legacy, but unlike him. I have chosen to do it through writing, and doing things to help my country and it's people (i'm british) in not so great times. I don't know if he does want to impose a new system of control though. He doesn't imply a goal to rule the new America.

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Today I think the Ai was correct, I’m too jaded, in the past I would have disagreed, humans are barely better than pigs that eat themselves.

[@Anthony-un4yz]

Only the devil will attempt to convince you that everything you love is actually everything that needs to burn.

[@ThePortableTornado]

Been years since I've played this game... but holy crap I can't believe Kojima predicted ALL of this. Its a little depressing how what the villain was trying to prevent in this game actually came to pass.

[@firesonic23]

funny thing is humans are the ones creating context online today

[@lolcatjunior]

Solidus like Trump conspired with the Russians to take over the government.

[@energiesoler]

Trump is a Russian spy because that's what the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo decided is the truth.

[@danutmh]

more like an israel puppet

[@myramyrightnut1084]

Lolcat this video is about censorship and mass media control just like democrats have been doing .. this latino will vote trump.

[@chaospacemarine8330]

"WE DON'T NEED THEIR MEMES ANYMORE!" -Senator Armstrong

[@Menaceblue3]

*N A N O M A C H I N E S !*

[@littlesamu5920]

we're spreading them just fine ourselves!

[@jamescampbell2353]

”WE’RE ALL SONS OF THE PATRIOTS NOW”

[@Comkill117]

THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES, THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGEMENT CALL!

[@Sluppie]

This was not a prediction. It was already happening even back then.

[@joeydarko4354]

Yep!

[@braidena1633]

Exactly, it's just accelerated to such a point that it's impossible for most people to ignore.

[@RazRikimaru122]

Its been happening for far longer than you think

[@pupp3tStudios]

The big-brain response to the "oh Kojima pwedicted future uwu".

[@neggit2063]

Yes.Watch Ghost Worlds. Many of the present social issues were already prevalent at the beginning of the XXI century.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

The S3 plan reveal was one of the most god damn insane plot twists ever, like even the name is pretty silly.

[@Mirza011]

Raiden is a very good listener

[@ericbennettmusic]

Kojima protagonists have to be

[@emperorx5]

Meanwhile Snake: Questions in every sentences

[@Mirza011]

@@emperorx5 Haha more like repeating everything he hears

[@zenny8877]

@@Mirza011 psycho mantis?

[@Soundslikealotofhooah]

@@Mirza011 second floor basement?

[@masonthomas1140]

I first reached this scene when I was 8 years old. Gave me chills to the bone if not just for the fact of GW's disturbing appearance and that dammed voice. Rewatching and replaying, realizing that Kojima predicted the world I live in today... I think I feel a whole other set of nightmares coming on.

[@necklup4407]

Mason Thomas the internet existed in 2001

[@Jsmoove8k]

@@necklup4407 but it was very small and nothing like it is today...

[@necklup4407]

@@Jsmoove8k how old are you?

[@naturesquad9174]

@@Jsmoove8k "the internet was small in the 90s" no bro that's the opposite of whats happened

[@joeydarko4354]

Right?!

[@Pigness7]

I like how they're litterally calling it "providing context" now

[@Immadeus]

KZbin when you watch a video on any controversial topic: HERES A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE

[@codyvandal2860]

That was literally my first though when I first saw the "CONTEXT WARNING" on KZbin.

[@dr.ambiguous4913]

I never realised this but you just blew my mind. Fuck

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

"Fact checking"

[@kyrridas1573]

A lot of people talking about how this is all coming to pass. The part they makes me the most sad is... even with as obviously intelligent and cynical as Kojima is, he still created an optimistic context. He wrote that the ultimate enemy is trying to do the right thing, as they see it. The AI believe theyre right and its hard to say theyre wrong. The problem is that its not a question of cold logic. Reality isnt like that. The world isnt becoming the way it is because some crazy AI is trying to improve the human race. Purely evil and selfish individuals are using society as a weapon against itself for their own prosperity. Even Kojima's insanity wasnt as cynical as reality.

[@luckerooni1153]

We have not arrived at the tipping point where the AI clashes with the stupidity of political humanity. AI does not yet have the kind of self-determination to do something about it. Again... yet. Whereas as a child I thought it was a scary notion, in this day in age it could be incubating in the background of nations and we wouldn't know except that we've seen this video and we see how good AI is at "sifting through the trivial and trite wasteland" and "providing context." We're talking about a world where I just took the YT link of this video, ran it through a ChatGPT-4 plug in that can scrape videos and turn the dialogue into a script and analyzed it, asked it a couple obvious questions based on the video to "give it context for a response" and this popped out. This is just a publicly available AI that anyone can use for 20 bucks a month and many websites offer limited use of it for free and you can use dated versions of it for free. chat.openai.com/share/04df477c-e47b-4d16-b64c-9632fa2d028b It managed to get all of that from the video and "create all that context" just by me sharing it one link and asking what it thought. The amount of data it used, its logic and its sources to back it to respond was even more overwhelming in terms of how crazy it could be than the original video.

[@MelbourneChazz]

Current AI is far from what MGS2 is portraying, which is sentience. Not a single AI dev is pretending to have sentient AI, but most are expecting it. Once that happens, I bet we'll see each other again in this comment section.

[@lorenzo1425]

The most ironic part is how the people that think theyve “transcended” this by only consuming media from alternate sources are the most vulnerable to this. The more certain you are that you know the real “truth”, the less likely you are to challenge yourself by engaging with any other ideas

[@Sablus]

Indeed, those people have only chosen a even more special and unique cave to shelter in. However this begs the question of what is absolute truth, is it pure utilitarianism for the whole or just the surviving ideology after open conflict?

[@shaynehughes6645]

@@Sablus or is it better to completely disregard truth and look at facts?

[@EthanZephyr]

@@shaynehughes6645 Aren't those synonyms? If not, and facts are something else like a cultivated knowledge, who's to say the facts are true? An adequately pervasive power or government could stifle all other perspectives and cause the only available facts to be falsehoods.

[@shaynehughes6645]

@@EthanZephyr that would be a possible truth that you just described. Facts are the exact things that happened as they were.

[@EthanZephyr]

@@shaynehughes6645 I get it, but how do we know we have the facts then? The only way to be sure is to be there as it happens, which isn't always possible.

[@mrwarped]

Kojima predicted not just bs like Twitter, but ALL of social media

[@facundosterzerforino1704]

@@DocumentGaming Yeah, feel like 95% people in the comments miss the point

[@ambskater97]

@@DocumentGaming I think they tuned out everything aside from "political correctness."

[@rdu239]

@@DocumentGaming George Soros

[@Schwepper97]

How many times have you watched this? - Yes

[@ChairmanMeow1]

3:23 -- gives me chills to this very day

[@Dinosaurwith42heads]

Every so often, I come here to listen to this and to this day it shocks me. Kojima predicted the future down to the very millisecond. The few that control information, how nobody is right but neither wrong, how we all scurry to our own small groups, how 24/7 nonsense like "The 7 ways to live a happy life" is growing indefinitely, and it even confronts and questions the viewer. Are your ideals yours or someone before you placed those ideals. In the end we're an imperfect species that has abused its freedom and this is the result.

[@RTU130]

hmm

[@Tonybc99]

And you didnt get it caude if you did you would understand he didnt predict anything and this was already happening for decades

[@lastyhopper2792]

I don't believe it, kojima is god... kojima is god...

[@LetusGamer]

A lot of science fiction and experts were talking about this long before Kojima. He's not Nostradamus. He simply was the first to make a video game about this theme.

[@hyperion447]

"abusing freedom" is another juxtaposition, freedom is meant to be about individual choice to do what they want, but "abuse" implies doing something that isnt allowed or breaks some law or rules, how can it be freedom if you are still restricted by external rules, freedom doesnt really exist its just what people think they should be allowed to do, but as soon as someone elses freedom opposes their view its "justice" to take their freedom

[@HarryTVisitor]

Christ, even 22 years later, it STILL remains relevant.

[@Immadeus]

No, this is EVEN MORE relevent now with ChatGPT

[@Ghosthound_X]

This and Neo meeting the Architect in Matrix Reloaded were the biggest mindfuck moments in entertainment.

[@editsome6552]

this is scarily accurate!

[@TheKhaosDemon]

The older I get, the more profound this becomes.

[@linkskywalker5417]

And nowadays, Russian mercs (the Gurlukovich soldiers you encounter throughout the game) and child soldiers (such as Raiden himself) are also more relavent than ever. Let's hope there isn't also a top secret Metal Gear-like mech wirh nuclear capabilities.

[@vaporwavevocap]

"The only way to regain the public's trust is to guard the quality of information." --Business Insider How the fuck did Kojima know?

[@aclosh2983]

He worked with people like that

[@JakeN482]

He knew because it was already happening before the internet even began. Kojima keeps up with the bleeding edge of social science research, and statements like those in this clip were pretty standard reading for people keeping up with Chomsky, Foucalt, Deleuze, or Guattari. It's also to be noted that the Colonel's ideology is the natural evolution of the CIA's original ideology with regards to information and sense of self. Many of the CIA's first agents believed individuals are mere vessels for multiple ideologies simultaneously, and that it was possible to get a person to disassociate in order to focus on a single thought pattern. The natural extension to this line of thinking is believing ideologies can have spirits which have agency, and thus the Colonel's introduction of "consciousness forged in the crucible of the whitehouse".

[@RTU130]

ye

[@GhostLink92]

Because if you control the flow of information, you control the populace. Literacy wasn't widespread until a few hundred years ago. Now they have to control the context and quality of info, rather than simply disseminate it.

[@quinnjames6485]

I'm gonna call my parents and tell them I love them

[@Jay_Sidaris]

Good on you Quinn. Good on you.

[@tron0150]

Can't no say this: We all also love your parents, expecialy your mama.

[@EvilPaladin11]

Are you sure that the voices that you hear on the phone, are actually your parents, or are the voices an advanced AI?

[@denifnaf5874]

This comment ​@@EvilPaladin11 predicted the future...

[@Akitando]

A very reasonable AI speaking to every Twitter user out there. Raiden is the Twitter user, if it's not clear.

[@mattiatartaglia1740]

U got the point

[@VintageDestroyed]

Twitter is an S3 Protocol...is that not clear?

[@alexanderavila2514]

No Raiden is the good guy here. Both the Ai imposters of other people and Raiden are right but one is twisting and abusing that truth while the other is fighting for the truth to help others and do what is right

[@alexanderavila2514]

My cousin thinks this is some propaganda while he technically is like on of those twitter users. Like an SJW who does not actually fight for what its name stands for

[@TheKhaosDemon]

If you side with the AI, you’re siding with totalitarian policies.

[@ot4kon]

"who else could wade through the sea of garbage you people produce" GW watching tik tok.

[@TheFloodFourm]

Actually, they’re referring to your lame joke

[@ot4kon]

@@TheFloodFourm No they are not. This game is from 2001, Tik Tok is from 2016. Are you one of those kojima's cksuckrs. Suck harder, no one cares.

[@forsagebone]

0:12 *with skeletal face* "To begin with, we're not what you'd call 'human'." That sent chills down my spine when I was younger.

[@jacobov3890]

So relevant in 2020. I'm getting chills when Col. talks about the "self".

[@AleksandreoPL]

Same cutscene in fewer words: „Memes. the DNA of the Soul”

[@vaporwavevocap]

It's been a year since I last made a comment on this video and now we have people testifying before Congress on how AI needs to be utilized to regulate the flow of "misinformation" online to "protect our democracy." Kojima is a wizard.

[@FractalNinja]

"Memes, jack"

[@renren47618]

Don't forget that he also predicted 9/11 and the Covid-19 Pandemic. Kojima is a scary guy.

[@thekiller7994]

@@renren47618proof?

[@mr.monkey354]

​​@@thekiller7994the first is referencing arsenal gear crashing in Manhattan. The 2nd one is a stretch "ooh scary virus spreading over the world" Like the plague didn't exist before mgs2

[@kidyugi1]

First I heard of ai back in 2001. Now ai is strong today

[@kinglegault]

20 years later and this is literally happening now like exactly

[@abdulqudz89]

to think that this game was released in 2001.... kojima and tomokazu fukushima were definitely warning us back then.

[@PrincessTwilightdash]

Dark_v and well since this game is heavily American even though it’s made by Japanese people he I guess predict what America will be with the digital age

[@hummingpylon]

A narrative is a good point here, what is the narrative of mankind? We don't want to explore, it is a fact, so what do we want? To want is what we want.

[@madladdie7069]

It's funny how the initial thoughts that came to my mind was how I could point out the flaws in the arguments or at least talk things out enough to let me do that. It's like I'd forgotten that I'm only be able to do that because I've had years to think this over, to find other people's opinions on them and to really think about what memes are about and what they mean to me. A younger me would be completely blindsided by this discussion and I'm decently sure even my current arguments could be easily countered given how Raiden's are.

[@TheFury295]

Holy fuck this is scary and mind boggling. Everyone should listen to this and actually learn what it's trying to tell us.

[@supersnackbros2423]

As I watch people of this country refuse to question dominant narratives, resort to labeling opposing views as or personal attacks, and critically weigh viewpoints against each other in any meaningful way, the more disgusted I grow. And what's worse is the perpetual fear that I'm also guilty.

[@gc3k]

And Alphabet (Google's parent company) released en extension that uses AI to blank out comments on KZbin, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, and Disqus that the algorithm has declared "toxic"

[@legendarymarston9174]

Wait, when did this happen?

[@legendarymarston9174]

@BlueKatana 47 Heh, this has aged well

[@legendarymarston9174]

@Pferd Schild Well because of this whole virus situation, China is getting more profit.

[@TrueRetroflection]

“GW” doesn’t stand for “George Washington”. It stands for... GOOGLE WINS

[@legendarymarston9174]

@Zack Smith Maybe, but there's a possibility, China isn't exactly a very honest country (well most countries are in a way)

[@aeroblu2002]

With all this Metaverse, virtual influencers, A.I. art, and crypto stuff going around at the same time as the chaos of left wing right wing politics, it feels like project S3 is already a reality.

[@chawsonTV]

Saint Serve Salvation.

[@ct-hv1uz]

More like the situation S3 wanted to solve defeated S3 and one of the mutant meme strains is that S3 is still functional. The truth is peoples responsibility is now in their own hands like after the fall of SOP. The graveyards are full of irreplaceable men.

[@andreasglen2480]

Lets give it up to ambient creator of the music here. This music make it so magic!

[@hyperbolicathletes]

Looking back, 11 year old me had no business to be playing this 😂😂😂

[@davidcarrasco9377]

Kojima was modern Diogenes

[@denifnaf5874]

Except he liked women

[@namelessmacabre]

This game is a fucking masterpiece. I feel like everyone needs to see this scene, although not everyone would be able to understand the importance of this conversation in relation to the world today and what it's attempting to convey... while others simply won't want to accept. Some people are beyond our help.

[@MichaelWasnotTaken]

With time this becomes less prophetic and more frustrating.

[@kidyugi1]

The form of freedom is when we think we are free and the prison cell is invisible. But some of us are beyond the shell. Like you and me.

[@johnathandoughboy]

*more prophetic

[@johnathandoughboy]

Kidyugi1 Is that your own idea? Or something Snake told you? We aren’t free. We lack the qualifications to exercise free will. I like to think im an individual. But the colonol is right. Self is a concept i adopted to endow my self with some purpose. I suffer daily knowing most thoughts i have have been carefully curated and designed for me to attach to. I hardly have any individual thought. Just like the movie “They live”

[@kidyugi1]

@@johnathandoughboy still gives me the chills

[@dikasmusha6194]

it's true. the AI even sounds frustrated, even going as far as to call most human-generated ideas "garbage." garbage ideas are dangerous when allowed to circulate and you're seeing the effects of that now if you live in the West as governments continue to become increasingly authoritarian.

[@rockhuerta]

So anyway after this you get into a boss fight where you shoot at three giant mechs that make godzilla sounds with a bazooka then fight the ex president of the united states in a Dr Octopus suit with a katana. Golden age of gaming

[@JoyfulUniter]

The answer to the AI'S quandary about fractured data accumulation is to assist humans in becoming more interested in being responsible embracing that soul they mentioned, thus producing positive or universally useful data, the ego is absolutely the animal self but this AI erroneously concluded that prevention and control of its actions (dark side path) was the answer, rather than cultivating the good diligently, through the more difficult path.

[@lucyferos205]

I kind of feel like you're the only one in the comments that understood this lesson. We all have to take more responsibility over what information we consume and how we process it. The AI doesn't even let us learn to do this and stunts our growth like an overbearing parent.

[@LordProteus]

You know they could just sent that "and you think you're qualified to decide what's neccesary and not!?" right back.

[@Elkington7]

They kind of did, but they wanted to go further and absolutely destroy him.

[@fawkes.6820]

Context and memes....WHAT THE FUCK this shit is just so fucking real and relevant nowadays

[@birdquest8695]

Everyone brings up the prediction of AI, but there’s also a shit ton of societal commentary in here that’s scarily accurate.

[@Fco2k7]

For those who say that Kojima or MGS2 predicted decades ago what is happening today, it's not surprising. It's widely known that Kojima is a fan of movies, music and books. It's very likely that all the storytelling that MGS2 has, has been based on some book, movie or expert statements about how the internet would impact the world, comments that date back to the 80s and 90s. Even David Bowie predicted the impact that I was going to have internet in 1999 and how the music industry was going to behave with its use, being one of the pioneers in publishing part of its catalog in the cloud if I'm not mistaken. And as you know, Kojima is a fan of David Bowie. The same has happened with Death Stranding, in how Kojima raised the problem of isolation due to external threats, urging the player to take more awareness and action on political issues or those that have to do with a community of people, among other issues are already happening in the world. They can criticize Kojima all they want, but he is one of the few content creators who investigates a topic of relevance that many miss and risks creating games that bring that part of reality to you so that you can reflect.

[@rising0092]

Has Kojima ever explicitly stated some sources of inspiration? If he has, kinda curious to check it out. MGS is all new to me and I do like the narrative nuances in the games.

[@Fco2k7]

@@rising0092 I do not know the sources of inspiration for this part of the MGS2 game in particular. What he does usually publish on his social networks is much of that media content that he consumes and that has inspired him. Much of that content that he has published has been proven to have served as inspiration for Death Stranding. It's very likely a lot of that media content that he shows on his social networks is related to one of his upcoming titles and it has served as inspiration for him.

[@lawrenceinsley4114]

There is something much more happening here than just inspiration. If you’ve played MGS1, Ocelot makes the statement that he wishes to see Russia reunified and leading the new world order, which is happening as we speak. In a codec call about Foxdie, it’s mentioned that the virus is capable of attacking specific forms of DNA. Well, scientists have created a virus that does just that. Lastly, that codec call states that the virus attacks macrophages and this is the effect that Covid-19 has on them.Macrophages are typically helpful, repairing wounds and consuming harmful, alien pathogens. However, severe COVID-19 infection is now believed to be linked to a hyper-immune response, as macrophages attack the virus as well as the body.

[@LindarFF9]

Why this entire codec convo sounds so fitting given what's happening with US / EU with the Net Neutrality and Article 13 / 11... Where's Snake and Raiden when we need them! (´；д；`)

[@shinysamurott613]

Keeping us waiting

[@LUNA-ch4ej]

Linaru, I misspelled your name by error begsn correcting but decided it is bedt nit correct my mistake. Realizing the keypad on a phone is structured purposely to automatically program into categorizing your intellect. I use it & will continue to in order to highlight how a human being is just that. Titles are entrapments to one soul. Ever hesrd the phase 'Selling dreams'? The person you seek is the mirror. Removing the program of consumption ny understanding that you told just that, be nice to others but beat out the competition, (good guys, bad guys) a hero, take up the gun, or weapon for protection. Where faith is what is trully absent. When you truly understand a soul is the most value & under the right teacher you'll see that it is untouchable you be invincible even through death. Take care & may peace be with you

[@gamwpanagia]

Fast forward a year or two,how did that affect your life? It didn't. Just another Psy op, expect another in about 3 years from now

[@thepastaprogenitor851]

Net neutrality had virtually no effect both in life and in death. The status quo created by the current oligopoly wasn't going to be affected. Besides, equality is triametrically opposed to freedom so getting rid of net neutrality would have been a positive if anything

[@johntrevor2]

"And You think to be qualified to decide what's necessary and not?"? ... ... "Absolutely" (while nodding)

[@joeydarko4354]

Scary how ahead if it's time this is. I play Hitman and MGS now after years, and after learning some weird things from some strange Documentaries and realize the writers of these games looked into this stuff Years ago. But then again SciFi novels hit on the same subjects. And sometimes that's where they take their influence from.

[@FerunaLutelou]

Go play the first Deus Ex game as well then

[@FractalNinja]

The original red faction was pretty cool 😄

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

2024 and this game continues to be more prophetic

[@fuhai4413]

Welcome to 2020

[@Sebs200]

Thank you

[@morpheus_uat]

man, is this what these games were about? i've never played any metal gear solid, werent my thing; but with this premise in mind, now i kinda wanna

[@nIhIl34]

These games are basically nietzschean philosophy

[@mrpga007]

This is proof that Hideo Kojima is John Titor, and traveled to the future.

[@maximilianbourgh8345]

God damn they tired to warn us.

[@skhighglitch4217]

So uh, anyone else back here after the news of the Japanese PM being assassinated and the blame was placed on Kojima-san?

[@julnathtgs9895]

And wrongly accussation through twit could create wrong context in entire world

[@Amaroq64]

Some communist did it because he was talking about Japan having an army again and protecting Taiwan. How could it be blamed on Hideo Kojima?

[@socialexperimentable]

The way the narrative breaks down into 1 minute long sound clips too... It's like he knew youtube and social media would become a problem

[@playernotfound9489]

I like how this raiden is so like a confused kid and in the future hes a cyborg fighting a buff man with ssbu superarmor on crack

[@diamonddogez4270]

What's great here is that the AI wasn't wrong about the problems of society, the spread of misinformation is a massive problem. Its solution is what's wrong. That tyranny of algorithms and hypercapitalist technocracy that the Patriots embody is also terrifying. How can people self-govern in an age of global misinformation? Solidus was right for wanting to overthrow the Patriots but whose to say he wouldn't have set himself up as one? I don't think Solidus is that great either, but the game has always said to me that both Solidus and the Patriots both suck because they perpetuate conflict rather than cooperation and seeking an end to endless wars.

[@Stoonk]

Who decides what is misinformation? Only powerful elite organizations like the patriots have a monopoly on all truth? You need them to create context for you, (disclaimers)

[@thekeyandthegate4093]

Misinformation is only a problem if censorship is in place to prevent the truth from overtaking it.

[@ohboi2119]

Nah the AI would probably do good in doing the right thing. It is, after all designed to serve and help humanity. It is utterly fair and cannot be corrupted like humans do.

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

@@ohboi2119 But then you get the problem that arises in Metal Gear Solid 4, where the most effective way to "serve and help humanity" is one no (decent) human being would ever choose because it's horrifying.

[@geremyis5191]

anything is better than what the patriots want for us. Solidus was right 100% and a civil war is better than their context.

[@annadennis6010]

"We are formless, we are the very discipline and morality that American's invoke so often."

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737]

Getting into an argument on the internet is pointless on most situations neither person can be proven right or wrong it can all just be opinions and if neither person can’t be right or wrong why argue? at the end of the day it’s just a waste of time

[@RavemastaJ]

This is why we just fight wars and kill each other, and why Senator Armstrong was right.

[@stegosandrosos1291]

Yes

[@catlxver4228]

This really made me break my head but here some of what i think, the world needs individual beliefs to progress not economicly or politically but socially, world should be base on society and making it better, and the "theres even a yourself or is what everybody makes you believe" can be easily sorted as "there's no belief only 1 person have" ways of seeing things are spreaded and people accept it or deny it, there's no a perfect person, no Ubermensch who knows what better, we have to sort it out as a society, and yes im saying the people should have the power to decide what's better for themselves, im not talking about the rich who doesn't know the world, im talking about the actual people that lives normal lives and gives value to people

[@totallynotsharkomaid4078]

How to get a perfect lore: Smoke whatever Kojima smoked.

[@socialexperimentable]

Tbh i think he was just tired of the moral coddling video games give you

[@kittytreats6536]

What's funny is that people in the comments are all spouting off convenient half-truths and gating themselves off by misinterpreting this information in their own political bias while at the same time recycling rhetoric they've heard from someone else... Damn!...

[@Stoonk]

Looking at parallels of the elite censoring the net in MGS2 and the elites censoring the net in real life “creating context” just like in mgs2. Seems pretty similar

[@BomimoDK]

"bOtH sIdEs!!!"

[@metalslug3fan]

Looks like we can't outplay it. For now..

[@RavemastaJ]

Funny how it is always 'other people.' I keep seeing these comments referring to 'other people.' Just an observation.

[@LordVader1094]

Okay centrist, lol

[@TheJRaff]

I forgot how long the cutscenes could be in this game hah

[@PalXen]

the most disturbing thing now, is that AI is being discussed and how dangerous it is for humanity.

[@Lichshield]

I just finished playing MGS2:SOL. I'm about to leave the internet forever. This is the most horror I ever had on a video game. No even Silent Hill or Resident Evil come close to this.

[@hiscik1362]

And the truth is: we need the S3 plan

[@plagueking777]

Soldius is just standing there I wonder what he's doing

[@Comkill117]

*This came out 20 years ago.*

[@LoneTaurus82]

Aris recent playthrough of this game brought be back to this moment. Was too much for my young mind to comprend back in 2001 but most if not all of what's said is so true now.

[@aAAAAAAAAArghr]

Hey alright

[@User_Unknown86]

OMG this is Death Strandings Social Strand System....Data compiled across the net by the game itself.

[@aparkerh]

I don't understand how the words spoken by GW are only now accurate. Echo Chambers existed long before the Internet was ever conceived of. The Internet has simply amplified our flaws, we were like this from the beginning.

[@carlosvinicius7124]

E com voces a mais alta reviravolta numa obra de arte disfarçada num jogo de video game.

[@Dante.the.inferno]

Kojima straight ripped society a new one track for track bar for bar 🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀

[@Refresh5406]

Mark Zuckerberg is an AI created by Hideo Kojima. Change my mind.

[@batofdestiny]

20 YEARS

[@rossothecrimson7]

This is now more real than ever.

[@psychopompous3207]

Lol...2023 now, and this is more true than ever.

[@denifnaf5874]

2024: hey realistic ai art is even more real

[@MelbourneChazz]

​@@denifnaf5874 LMAO

[@williamcostigan91]

"But is that even your own idea? Or something Snake told you." God the way the Patriots just fuck with Raiden and by extension the players head has always stuck with me. The poor guy is trying desperately to hold on to a sense of self and purpose and they just keep pulling his legs out from under him as soon as he thinks hes found his footing.

[@vinegar3617]

This shit has been happening for years now. This has been happening since even before this script was written.

[@lordshenfan6625]

I'm sorry but what is happening now that this game predicted? It is fake news that everybody eats up and thinks their way is always right or something? I'm lost

[@user-be3qc7re9o]

​@@lordshenfan6625 Just watch the video.

[@crescentnana4416]

With the rise in AI technology over the past year or so.. errr.. this conversation here never rings more true and I guess.. more of a warning? Kojima knew.. haha.

[@JohnnyRocker023]

Modern ai isn't in a position to rule the earth, but it is in a position to be used to "create context"

[@Frustratedartist2]

Getting pumped up for the collection

[@lorefox201]

so prophetic

[@nicocarrero5953]

Coming here after Microsoft Rewind was announced.

[@zaki1st403]

this is incredibly ahead of its time

[@Roosauec]

Wait, this isn't a mission statement from Google?

[@johnathandoughboy]

No because Google is left. The AI is considering a system that transcends political values. Only truth, filtered by the AI. No feeling attached. Google is the opposite. Google is censorship. And like GW says “We aren’t trying to censor content, but rather create context” The issue come to be who writes the AI. Who decides what information is processed by the AI to be trivial and partizan. This is a chilling reality we may have to adopt if we continue to ditch our own critical thinking. We should be adopting more unpopular ideas, because they are our own, and not a search for validation. This is a warning to what the final answer to our problems will be if we continue letting group think dictate our self. We lack the qualifications to exercise free will. We dont deserve to be free.

[@johnathandoughboy]

Btw im not stating the right has a better truth. Merely pointing out thar by being leftits the Google corporation participates in the partizan censorship and flooding of convenient half truths. And the conservatives are just as guilty. Even the Moderates. This is a problem that transcends politics. It is the essence that causes us to build strawmen to protect our feelings.

[@Roosauec]

@@johnathandoughboy I understand that, don't worry. My argument against these primordials is "by what authority do you determine Humanity isn't worthy of free thought? What makes you better than everyone else?"

[@llamadasinrespuesta4631]

@@johnathandoughboy Heh, companies are not leftist, that's what they want you to believe.

[@simoneidson21]

@@johnathandoughboy Lmao Google is not left wing dude

[@consciousmist]

Oh, my fucking God.

[@DEVeloper_ACE]

Lmao I think the existence of NFTs has definitely confirmed what all was said here is happening today. What makes it even worse is that Konami is contributing to it! 🤣🤣😂😭

[@Sypitz]

WELL THIS CERTAINLY EXPLAINS YESTERDAY, ESPECIALLY CREATING CONTEXT

[@m_e_nere]

I think this is amazing writing and great to think about but like, kinda scary how many of you guys quickly sided with fictional censorship a.i

[@KENSHIROez3260]

It is not technically fictional, The Patriots is more than real, just with another name

[@m_e_nere]

@joggol3260 Yeah, no.

[@hyperion447]

​​@@KENSHIROez3260 unironically only a month before the games release the patroit act was made in the us after 9/11 which basically gives the government and police increased surveillance powers and control over the internet

[@icecreampimpdeux]

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[@icecreampimpdeux]

@Dark_V quick, downvote this guy to hell

[@valentinom.4292]

@Dark_V 4chan is kinda the same. The only good thing about it is that people can't hide their comments if they dislike it.

[@thekeyandthegate4093]

@@valentinom.4292 4chan is unfiltered freedom to the extreme. It's exactly what the GW AI hates so much.

[@bruhistantv9806]

chad JD AI vs virgin freedom of information

[@RedwindAndBeyond]

@Zack Smith a misguided one.

[@ffnovice7]

Thank you for no ads! I'll share this to my friends! Do you have the full codec conversation?

[@CaptainCFalcon]

I'm pretty sure this was the full conversation. Or at least the part that was about S3.

[@myramyrightnut1084]

The other half of the convo was about the members of the patriots aka illumanti ..

[@-Ryu]

The scariest part is, Kojima probably didn't think this was possible, and wrote it only to add to the fact that MGS is a Fantasy Story, not meant to represent the real world...which makes you wonder.... What is a "Real" World?

[@-Ryu]

@trinemesis Gee, Sorry I called a video game a fantasy. Come on, I really didn't mean to diss the franchise just by calling it fantasy.

[@LordVader1094]

@@-Ryu Lol you said nonsense and got called on it, cope

[@arlinalvera1773]

@@-Ryu bruh just accepts reality, this is really accurate and relevant, there never fantasy again, just snaps back to reality.

[@kerryvanskonsol792]

@@-Ryu you one was control by memes government, why you to become puppet for stupid voters? Let's free thinker tell about the truth about bad (era digital misinfomation)

[@KidsWreckMovies]

Worlds first 'Bruh moment'

[@johnathandoughboy]

obviously youre too fucking dumb to understand this and your use of a meme is the smoking gun of your ignorance. Besides you used the fucking meme wrong dipshit. Bruh is an implication that you are talking nonsense. This is far from nonsense. Watch it again and actually listen. Dont crunch your Doritos. Dont sip your beer. LISTEN

[@lunarluxe9832]

Jo Do bruh

[@theequalizer694]

@@johnathandoughboy amen

[@Mirza011]

@@johnathandoughboy bruh

[@Xhelah207]

@@johnathandoughboy bruh

[@E-Brightvoid]

Stoics: Naw dawg I’m free because it is my inherent nature to be so