Sellers DON’T WANT TO PAY! Realtors Will QUIT IN MASSES

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Michael Bordenaro

Michael Bordenaro

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@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
Senior Citizens STRUGGLING TO KEEP THEIR HOMES kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ-rl6Cnj99jprs
@ROImediaGuy
@ROImediaGuy Жыл бұрын
This lawsuit was utterly ridiculous. It will be thrown out on appeal UNLESS the NAR did something to muddy the waters. They have no responsibility in how sellers and agencies negotiate their commissions. When I was a licensed broker there was no "standard". Everything is open to negotiation. END OF STORY
@ROImediaGuy
@ROImediaGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes, buyer's real estate agents have a fiduciary responsibility to their client. This means that they must act in the client's best interests, even if it means putting their own interests aside. Any agent not performing as such is opening up a can of worms..
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Жыл бұрын
Defund the NAR, the NRA, and Realtors.
@vagabundo18
@vagabundo18 Жыл бұрын
Michael, have you heard that builders are now offering huge interest buy downs so buyers can have a lower payment? Huge 100k to 200k buy downs being given to the buyer so they can purchase. They are purposely not discounting the sale price to keep the comps high! Insane!
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have heard of this. I will touch on it in tomorrow’s video.
@canamrider07
@canamrider07 Жыл бұрын
We were selling my wife’s parents home after they passed away, in Waco TX. The Realtor had drawn up a contract for our listing. I told her I wanted a day or two to review it first. There was a clause in there that if the buyers agent wasn’t associated or a member of some Realtor Association, MLS, I can’t remember exactly what it was, that they would only get a 2% commission vs 3% and she would pocket the 1%. I called her on it and said I would sign but she would get a total of 5% (vs 6%). She laughed at me. I didn’t sign with her. I found a Realtor who had a buyer and he charged me a total of 4.5%. After that we had two rentals that I fixed up, put our own sign up in the yard. A guy came by and bought them both for cash. No commission, my lawyer handled the transaction, he owned a title company so I saved at least 7-10%.
@taroman7100
@taroman7100 Жыл бұрын
luv it!
@christopherrivera1724
@christopherrivera1724 Жыл бұрын
Or possibly left 10-15% profits on the table excluding competing buyers
@andrewrivera4029
@andrewrivera4029 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherrivera1724 once again you expose yourself, it’s MLS that get the buyers pouring in and the realtor just bangs the till!
@littlewiseowl4405
@littlewiseowl4405 Жыл бұрын
Sold an estate property direct to buyer because agents were gaming both sides. Took property off the MLS, waited the full exit window, and then sold it to the next buyer without all the agent aggravation & games.
@christopherrivera1724
@christopherrivera1724 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@andrewrivera4029 can’t see the forest for the trees. Zoom out Andrew and read up on the history of the industry as a whole
@andrewrivera4029
@andrewrivera4029 Жыл бұрын
Yea bro 60-70k k on a million dollar property is criminal, the property isn’t yours you just blew in and spread lala and let the machine sell the house , all we the homeowners are paying for is access to MLS. 10-20k max! And we ain’t worrying about brokers quitting in mass!
@cicicorleo
@cicicorleo Жыл бұрын
Be cheaper for everyone to just get their realtor license. 😂
@Kiki-wi7px
@Kiki-wi7px Жыл бұрын
​@@cicicorleo Don't NEED a "License" !!
@ljmac64
@ljmac64 Жыл бұрын
The whole real estate model needs a drastic overhaul.
@TheyRiseBand
@TheyRiseBand 11 ай бұрын
Starting with home prices. 40% haircut would be a good start.
@psycicmindpowers
@psycicmindpowers 11 ай бұрын
We'll need cheap oil to reduce the costs of construction for that to happen.
@LifewithSusy
@LifewithSusy Жыл бұрын
Some buyers agents completely fail. We had one when we moved to Texas. She showed us 4-5 homes. Once we chose the one we wanted, it was complete crickets even after we closed. She didn’t even show up to closing. So she made 3% to just show us less than 5 homes and just waited for her check. We constantly had to keep asking her what the next steps were during the process instead of her guiding us. We were completely disappointed with her services. Like who doesn’t show up to their buyer’s closing to assure everything you’re signing is correct & legit. Not even a thank you card for being a client, absolutely nothing! NEVER AGAIN!
@candelariaw1668
@candelariaw1668 Жыл бұрын
That’s horrible. My realtor kept me informed of every step, she was at the closing and still to this day, calls and see how everything is going. That’s rare from what I’m reading
@AlexM-vh2pu
@AlexM-vh2pu Жыл бұрын
Sold my last homes myself. No realtor! It was a breeze and I am no rocket scientist. lol
@10317
@10317 Жыл бұрын
Me to Alex.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
When? What year?
@phaedrus2633
@phaedrus2633 Жыл бұрын
Another consideration is this. When the price of houses were 150K - 200K I can see asking for 6%, since it isn't that substantial of a number. But when houses like mine cost around $700,000, 6% of that is $42000? Does anyone deserve $21,000 to list or show a house? There are just too many people with their hands out when you want to sell. My first house I sold was by owner, and I paid an attorney around $1000. Now, that was fair. I think that's just ridiculous, and when it comes time for me to sell, I will definitely negotiate that down.
@ginacardarella
@ginacardarella Жыл бұрын
I probably said I was going to sell my own place from the beginning. If you have a good property, you don't need an agent. You need a great attorney and a great escrow company
@Kiki-wi7px
@Kiki-wi7px Жыл бұрын
​@@ginacardarella EXACTLY. HOME'S SELL THEMSELVE'S. A BUYER EITHER LIKE'S IT OR NOT.
@phaedrus2633
@phaedrus2633 Жыл бұрын
@@ginacardarella Here in California, anywhere really, you probably don't need an agent. All new houses set out on the market are like raw meat to hungry lions. I know the media has everyone believing that there is a mass exodus from CA. But, I don't see it.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Idx syndication sells the home, not the house itself. Because brokers share their data with everyone your home is able to sell to someone around the world. Your home is one of a million.
@shannonrush1299
@shannonrush1299 Жыл бұрын
I sold my house in San Jose for 1.6M in one day! Listed for one day and paid 5%. 80K for one day. Not even one open house. It’s crazy
@katydid2877
@katydid2877 Жыл бұрын
I used a flat fee broker in 2021. Sign in the yard, listing on all the sites, lock on the door, done. Saved me over $20K.
@KarieJacobs
@KarieJacobs Жыл бұрын
Now that the market is changing the environment of easy sales is over.
@katydid2877
@katydid2877 Жыл бұрын
What does a hard sale look like?@@KarieJacobs
@dawhike
@dawhike Жыл бұрын
But did you LOSE $20K in net proceeds due to unmotivated listing agents?
@katydid2877
@katydid2877 Жыл бұрын
If I used a regular realtor then that would have been a wash and pointless. Right? I set my own price. I looked at tons of comps, set the price, and got tons of offers. I took the over asking offer. Not my first rodeo. I’ve sold my own house before. @@dawhike
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
From 2020-2022 that was a good bet… not now.
@annaburns5382
@annaburns5382 Жыл бұрын
the last two homes that I sold, I used a flat fee agent. They only charged me $1000. for their commission. I still had to pay the 3% buyers fees, but using the flat fee realtor really saved me money. Most realtors HATE flat fee realtors! They don't want their dirty secrets to be exposed.
@ShalomUSA
@ShalomUSA Жыл бұрын
I e used them twice myself, and prefer the flat fee over a standard agent.
@markpitchford7375
@markpitchford7375 Жыл бұрын
I did the same on the house I sold in 2013.
@universalstudiosshorts9963
@universalstudiosshorts9963 Жыл бұрын
They are crooks they try to get you with other fees and if u say no they put a line on your house
@mitchellsmall5662
@mitchellsmall5662 Жыл бұрын
Broker commissions are stupidly extraordinary expensive! Median sale price x 6 or 7% commission is Highway robbery!
@SeanD808
@SeanD808 Жыл бұрын
I've sold a property for a total of four and a half percent commission. I even gave more to the buyer than I got and I did all the work..
@chrislastnam6822
@chrislastnam6822 Жыл бұрын
extraordinarily
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
After taxes, travel, expenses, office fees, state fees, mls fees…. That’s not a lot unless the house is 500k plus.
@chrislastnam6822
@chrislastnam6822 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 There are no travel expenses if you just have a seller's agent. A seller's agent is all you need . When you shop for a car or appliances you only have a seller's agent. In the neighborhood where my house where I no longer live is located, most houses are over $4,000,000. 6% of $4,000,000 is an astounding $240,000. Most houses there sell in a couple of months so agents are making a fortune for saying this is the den , this is the back yard etc.
@geovannagaray4641
@geovannagaray4641 Жыл бұрын
We can always stop using real state agents , as long as your price is reasonable, you can always sell your house
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Most don’t because it’s not as easy as they say neither. The first time a weirdo shows up or stiffs them they are in the phone to their realtor.
@erictoulon5946
@erictoulon5946 Жыл бұрын
A real estate transaction has a lot of moving parts and if people don’t stay on top of it there is a good chance the transaction can easily fall apart. When this happens it’s not uncommon for lawsuits to occur. I’ve been served a few times but was able to remove my name because I had a paper trail and didn’t do anything wrong. Others weren’t so lucky. Buying a house is the most emotionally charged transaction in people’s lives and when you have emotion and money involved you’ve got a recipe for disaster. A lawyer’s dream. I’ve had a few owner sellers involved in an escrow approach me and ask me to take over because the potential buyer was threatening them and they were freaking out.
@Alex.smiffy
@Alex.smiffy Жыл бұрын
So when strangers knock on the door for a showing, you will just invite them in?
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 Жыл бұрын
That can be a shit deal because a good realtor can sell your property for an unreasonable price. There is no point in saving 20k to lose 100k. Tuna’s the dumbest math in the world. A good realtor may even able to get your property in a bidding war, where the price can go nuts. If you own some kinda dog kennel close to the Projects you’re probably better off selling yourself because you’ll probably be struggling to sell.
@mariea2277
@mariea2277 Жыл бұрын
So who will write the offer?
@Jdalio5
@Jdalio5 Жыл бұрын
I quit mortgage lending because I hated dealing with realtors. It warms my heart that they are now being forced to go back to waiting tables. So sad!
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
I was in mortgages and your comment is probably the reason why you had to quit.
@Pfpg-t1i
@Pfpg-t1i Жыл бұрын
@daleckio I am guessing you lost a lot of deals due to Realtors helping their people find a better deal on a loan when you were just about to overcharge them for a loan. You put in all that work to get them approved, jam in a few extra fees and don’t give them the best rate and some Realtor comes along and says they will save $5k on closing day and $40k over the life of the loan if they go with another lender and now you lost the deal. Mortgage is a tough business especially with Realtors who help their people shop for the best loan.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
No Never. I sent deals to them. I rarely lost a deal because of a realtor. @@Pfpg-t1i
@JumpnJack-p3x
@JumpnJack-p3x Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 Interesting you used a past tense. What is your excuse for quitting? I was a realtor and I got tired of lousy, lazy and sleazy realtors!
@JumpnJack-p3x
@JumpnJack-p3x Жыл бұрын
@@Pfpg-t1i You sure know a lot for making assumptions.
@jgnmtz
@jgnmtz Жыл бұрын
IME, when we sold our house in 2008 , 6% was painful . They made almost as much as I did after paying an expensive mortgage for 8 years , lots of 60 hr weeks , and a few nervous breakdowns from exhaustion , commuting 2 hrs per day . The commissions should be capped at $20k- $25k .. nobody should be paying $50k to sell their home, no matter house much the house sells for .
@theewelder
@theewelder Жыл бұрын
u should Not HAVE SOLD IT..........shopped around for a greenback......who would have loved a 5-10k comminsion....?......u were impulsive...
@coastalhillbilly3419
@coastalhillbilly3419 Жыл бұрын
Remove price fixing and let the free market reign
@Kuulei265
@Kuulei265 Жыл бұрын
They were lucky to find a buyer in 2008. Do you remember what happened during 2008? Places were selling for hundreds of thousands lower. People were losing their jobs. Downsizings, mergers took jobs. The stock market crashed. I called that one one year in advance. Anyway have mercy on a person who was doing whatever they could to pay their mortgage. People were turning in the keys to their homes to banks and walking away.
@taroman7100
@taroman7100 Жыл бұрын
easy legal theft. It may change on sellers end as per ruling on a case in Illinois.
@tttuberc
@tttuberc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, in 2008, hard to find buyers. Even if you have buyers, many weren't able to get loans.
@ralfortmanns7328
@ralfortmanns7328 Жыл бұрын
I've never understood this in the US market, what does a buyer agent actually do? In Australia you have a seller agent and you go to an inspection, if you like the property you make an offer to the selling agent. Some people may retain a buying agent (advocate) and they are paid by the buyer in a fee for service basis. Maybe the US has too many realtors. 6% seems a ridiculous amount to pay on expensive property.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
We definitely have too many realtors that’s for sure and this is gonna make a lot of them quit I think but besides that traditionally buyers agents will find properties and set up showings for buyers and help negotiate the deal and write up all the paperwork for them and walk the deal into closing
@marcofluff
@marcofluff Жыл бұрын
Thanks I always wondered how other countries do it.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
What does a buyers agent do??? Shows you all the homes. Makes sure you don’t get screwed when writing an offer. Follows up with all parties for 2 months until closing. Helps you get your deposit back if you need to back out. It could take 6 months of home showing to find you a house and you don’t pay a cent out of pocket for it. Maybe you should find out.
@thomass789
@thomass789 Жыл бұрын
​@@ElliotShoenerYou sound scared. Really scared, that people have figured out how overpaid you are for what you actually do, and that more and more people have realized that they don't need you. Is that it?
@markpitchford7375
@markpitchford7375 Жыл бұрын
interesting take on it. I've always thought that the buyers agents are the ones that actually did all the work. Finding the right place, showing them, etc. The actual closing isn't a huge deal.
@ColoradoFishing
@ColoradoFishing Жыл бұрын
Sellers should not have to pay 6% or really any % based commission. Buyers find their own homes anymore, all software based online. Real estate is like newspapers of old, hanging on to how it used to be to keep their pockets full. Everything can be performed by software now, contracts, title work etc. realtors can just charge a flat fee and if they do extra work, pay the realtor for your time. Let the sellers keep their hard earned equity
@tommak6516
@tommak6516 Жыл бұрын
'Realtors are like newspapers' very true. But what they do it tie up the conventional online advertising so only Realtors can post, like MLS.
@ColoradoFishing
@ColoradoFishing Жыл бұрын
@@tommak6516 yeah, that’s why it has been so weird to watch over the years. The MLS is the only reason they exist. If we had a national public MLS that sellers could just pay to list their home, that would be the next sensible step. Funny how I can sell my own cars, or anything else I own…but not my house. No, I need special gatekeepers for that.
@d.fenestrator9529
@d.fenestrator9529 Жыл бұрын
You can do much of your house search online and without the assistance of an agent. A 3% overall commission is more than sufficient.
@cicicorleo
@cicicorleo Жыл бұрын
Agree, Especially since there's apps now to search properties.
@janetairlines1351
@janetairlines1351 Жыл бұрын
All they really do is help with paperwork. They are mostly just useless middlemen
@Emmas-Studio
@Emmas-Studio Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@tttuberc
@tttuberc Жыл бұрын
You still need an agent to open the house if you want to see it in person and see it actual condition. Don't think sellers would like to open their houses to random strangers knocking on their door to see the house
@localreviewer5939
@localreviewer5939 Жыл бұрын
So yo can do that by checking their background first
@well-blazeredman6187
@well-blazeredman6187 Жыл бұрын
In the UK, full-service 'realtors' charge about 1.5% commission. The use of buyers' agents is unknown. And my last legal bill, for a sale, was less than £1000. The very high charges in America are a continuing source of amazement to me.
@jimshoe402
@jimshoe402 Жыл бұрын
So are Your Taxes Brit !!!!😝😝😝😝
@CynthiaRockroth
@CynthiaRockroth Жыл бұрын
The buyers agent does the pre shopping. Looking at all the listing the school district how many beds and baths. Price range.location. and can go look at houses and upload pictures if you live out of town and need to move for work. Then when you fly in you have a short list that checks ✔ all your needs and only look at thoes. You can find what you want faster.
@stoneyswolf
@stoneyswolf Жыл бұрын
That's what i said when we sold my wife's parents house. The percentage is to high and the house literally sold in less then 12 hours.
@chrislastnam6822
@chrislastnam6822 Жыл бұрын
If it sold in less than a day your real estate agent priced it too low .
@ericwadebrown
@ericwadebrown Жыл бұрын
More information then ever about a house is available online, yet real estate agents still want high commissions for doing less work. Also buyer agents are incentivized to bargain for a lower price on your home. So why should a seller want to pay them for that? I've also had seller agents lying about there being other offers. And when I called the bluff, all the sudden they yield to a lower price. Just like how nobody wants to deal with car salesman, nobody wants to deal with real estate agents. I welcome the day AI will replace real estate agents.
@briank3754
@briank3754 Жыл бұрын
I’ve sold and bought several houses on my own. The title company does all the work behind the scenes and the realtors get paid for passing you the forms and paperwork that the title company generates. It’s a complete racket.
@judiruthmeredith6427
@judiruthmeredith6427 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I’ll be glad when real estate agents are a thing of the past.
@KarieJacobs
@KarieJacobs Жыл бұрын
I just closed a transaction that the buyers lender said couldn't be done. I was able to get the complex approved by the secondary mortgage market. The sale wouldn't have closed without me and my product knowledge.
@briank3754
@briank3754 Жыл бұрын
@@KarieJacobs if they had that much trouble getting a mortgage they probably shouldn’t be buying a house.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Because brokers share that data. Brokers will go back to the old days of not sharing.
@Gypsygirl9
@Gypsygirl9 Жыл бұрын
NEVER bought or sold using an agent. Always bought/sold FSBO and used a good RE atty to handle everything. Saves a bunch of $.🎉
@BigJon-wb9jq
@BigJon-wb9jq Жыл бұрын
If i price my home correctly, why should i pay $60k in commission to sell my million dollar house? Then pay closing costs on top of that! Thats almost $100,000. Thats ridiculous. My last realtor pulled up in a ferrari one day then a rolls royce at closing! He gifted me a doormat at closing! How nice of him!
@marypaquette8705
@marypaquette8705 Жыл бұрын
😮
@computron1
@computron1 Жыл бұрын
Hope it was a nice doormat 😆
@10317
@10317 Жыл бұрын
That realtor was over the top. You don’t need a realtor to sell your home. You do need a title company. They are the ones who really do the work.
@BigJon-wb9jq
@BigJon-wb9jq Жыл бұрын
@computron5824 not really. He also said he would take me to dinner. Never happened! Next time I'm doing things different
@10317
@10317 Жыл бұрын
Bigjon- what to you mean by saying not really. I would never buy real estate without the help of a title company . They make sure the property is clear of all encumbrances. People lie. And if you have questions talk to an attorney.
@Juliet875
@Juliet875 Жыл бұрын
Know a few people who sold themselves, for sale by owner and offered a 2% commission to the buyers agent. They said it was so easy and sold fast. So much cheaper!
@sargepent9815
@sargepent9815 Жыл бұрын
The last few years have been an extreme seller's market. Real estate agents haven't been having to WORK since houses were selling within 2 weeks (or less) with multiple offers and waved contingencies. This made the perception/justification for their "fee" seem a bit excessive for filing the paperwork and an hour of their time at closing.
@rosaliethomson4655
@rosaliethomson4655 Жыл бұрын
Your'a ahowed up for closing? I've thought them overpaid for years.
@peggythibodeaux1519
@peggythibodeaux1519 Жыл бұрын
in my opinion, Realtors don't just earn fees for that one particular transaction, what about all the other transactions that do not turn in money, all the days and nights spent on work that falls apart, most people go to work and make a paycheck whether they do a great job at the end of the week or not. A Realtor works most of the time and it yields nothing, so one large commission will compensate for all the time buyers and sellers walk out on transactions after months of a Realtor working..
@JumpnJack-p3x
@JumpnJack-p3x Жыл бұрын
@@peggythibodeaux1519 So one unlucky seller gets screwed by paying for all the other deals that didn't make money. Doesn't seem fair to me!
@azlady8102
@azlady8102 Жыл бұрын
I worked with buyers and with sellers. To say buyers agents don’t have to work hard during a sellers market is pure BS. I worked harder and longer hours with buyers who couldn’t get homes because the sellers had multiple offers. My buyers IF they got in contract paid for home inspection & appraisals and still did not get the home because the sellers were demanding $50k or more than appraisal. This was for homes under $300K!!! Listing agents are the ones who don’t have to work hard. Hardest part of listings is dealing with the insane sellers.
@1whitecottagelife770
@1whitecottagelife770 Жыл бұрын
@@peggythibodeaux1519that my friend, is called being self employed. I was a principal broker for 15 years
@dianeturner9503
@dianeturner9503 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking about selling my home in Ohio. I interviewed two seller's agents and both insisted that the traditional 3/3 commission is non negotiable. So I am questioning how negotiable these commissions really are. Perhaps they will be more so when realtors get a little hungrier? All this makes FSBO worthy of a closer look.
@viperviper5
@viperviper5 Жыл бұрын
Bottom line here is commission s. Are negotiable period
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
It is negotiable just the two you talked to don’t want to negotiate it
@emcwealth
@emcwealth Жыл бұрын
6% is not a small amount of money... especially with the prices these days...
@localreviewer5939
@localreviewer5939 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never met an honest real estate agent. They always tell you they’re working for you but it’s always for themselves. And since it’s been a skewers market, I’ve been told by agents that they will not ask agents to ask their sellers to lower the price. And told me lies that I needed to be as high as $25k over asking, which I did. After moving in, I realized tiny one else was interested or wd have paid this much for the house.
@tonyhurst6544
@tonyhurst6544 Жыл бұрын
I live in Missouri and worked for Coldwell Banker who was involved in the lawsuit. Price fixing is a possibility. At Coldwell Banker they have the listing contract at 7% however as an agent you could lower it to 6.5% , if you went lower they would charge the agent or the seller $ 350. You have said it all THE STANDARD by saying 6% is the norm . I see the real estate industry rewriting the laws for how and who gets paid and what . The commission structure has always burdened the seller to pay the commission and the buyers agents get commission from both sides . Indirectly the buyer is paying the commission. After all the sellers are working on a net figure and if the commission is a cost then the price goes up to meet the sellers net . It will be interesting to see how this plays out , im sure there will be an appeal in the case .
@pswanberg1
@pswanberg1 Жыл бұрын
The entirety of the real estate agent / realtor profession can be replaced with a redfin search (access to the realtor database) and some fields on a webpage to be filled in when the buyer decides, maybe a $15 fee to process. Every agent I've worked with didn't care anything more than trying to show me some overpriced garbage they could get a cut on.
@apple1231230
@apple1231230 Жыл бұрын
redfin in my market as compared with actual MLS comps in real time is about 22% off more expensive. not to defend realtors being scummy, as since i've had my license all i've ever told people is not to buy as things are overpriced, but redfin is a joke. it will give you a 240p version view of your house, aka vaguely useful. real estate agents are very neccisary for buying a home, if they do their job, as they can save you from all kinds of legal, municipal and other possible problems. that's not to say all of them do, most are quite useless indeed. If you want to do it by your self than i say, good luck ol chap, have fun not getting screwed! or you could do what i did, get a real estate license so you don't have to rely on these money hungry vultures and do it yourself. than again, most people dont plan on buying and selling hundreds of houses like i do.
@MichaelBrown-ny3et
@MichaelBrown-ny3et Жыл бұрын
Most don’t need a buyers agent except to open the door.
@dianeturner9503
@dianeturner9503 Жыл бұрын
Gone are the days when only REAs had access to the mysterious MLS. They would pick you up in their Cadillac or BMW with a list of selected properties just for you based on your criteria. Drive you around all day and sing the praises of each house which BTW they had firsthand knowledge of. They took the pics, composed the listing. There was a lot of time and effort involved. Now, I research the available properties online, provide the REA with my list, and I follow the agent (in my own car) to each address. The agent typically doesn't know anything more about the house than I do. Where's the value in this "service"? They collect tens of thousands of dollars for doing what exactly? $45 worth of paperwork? No thanks. The world has changed.
@tn5346
@tn5346 Жыл бұрын
@@dianeturner9503 Just like their much harder working grocery store counterparts, the cashier, they will be around until they are replaced by automation. Someone needs to create an app that let's you put down a deposit (in case of any damage, etc), collects your information, vets users to filter out any weirdos, then allows users to simply book appointments and unlocks the doors from the app. Cameras can be placed around the home, for the seller's security. The app could charge a convenience fee for each showing. So much better than being hounded by another agent looking for their next commission. Using the app would cost maybe a $5 showing fee, plus maybe $20 per year to use the app, vs the thousands that a buyer's agent wants to collect for DOING NOTHING. This would also help curtail inflation. The app could be called, "My cousin the realtor", lol
@taroman7100
@taroman7100 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! The MLS has definitely made them lazy. I remember those days. @@dianeturner9503
@kjay5056
@kjay5056 Жыл бұрын
Let's talk about the elephant in the room. Why are we paying a percentage commission on a house sale? It should be a flat rate and if a particular real estate company wants to charge more than another, it's up to the consumer who they want to use. What extra work is the agent doing when they sell a SFR that is 2000 sq ft vs 3000 sq ft.? Same amount of work is being done, yet the seller of the more expensive house is paying a higher commission. Plus most people can see listings on more than one website about houses available for sale. You're correct in saying you can always negotiate the commission being paid. I have always negotiated with the agent the % if the offer price wasn't enough. They want the "sale" they lower their commission or risk losing the sale...this is not rocket science.
@TheHomeExpert5
@TheHomeExpert5 Жыл бұрын
A home buyer who utilizes the listing agent as his agent is equivalent to going to court and letting opposing counsel represent you.
@jjandj7582
@jjandj7582 Жыл бұрын
I think the idea of a buyer paying a fee to a buying agent could work. Or get a lawyer to handle the paper work. We sold a house by owner once. We had a lawyer and so did the seller.
@Osborneloto
@Osborneloto Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I’ve met very few realtors with the skill of an attorney. Like zero. How much training do you have to go through to get your realtors license? I think you can do it online in about 2 hours.
@joesmith3590
@joesmith3590 Жыл бұрын
Lol like a realtor does anything except convince you to buy regardless.
@allanfizzahmeh3037
@allanfizzahmeh3037 Жыл бұрын
well said haha.
@stuartwilkison8754
@stuartwilkison8754 Жыл бұрын
The last house I sold and bought were without a realtor....don't need them.
@ViralRivers
@ViralRivers Жыл бұрын
I think flat fees make more sense in most scenarios. From what I have seen, the listing agent isn’t doing much after the home is listed, I guess they will have to start being the one to show it to the buyers and earn that 3%
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
From what you’ve seen? Are you sitting with the listing agent doing a documentary? It takes on average 4-5 hours just to get a home listed.
@markpitchford7375
@markpitchford7375 Жыл бұрын
I sold my house in 2013 and did exactly that. I paid a flat rate to have my house listed then offered a full 3% commission to the buyers. To me, the buyer's agents are the ones really putting in the time, legwork, etc.
@kandismueller7716
@kandismueller7716 Жыл бұрын
If the 6% has always been negotiable, agents have ALWAYS KEPT THAT A SECRET FROM ME! (9 homes sold)
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
No they haven’t. You just never asked. They aren’t going to give you a deal without you saying something.
@kandismueller7716
@kandismueller7716 Жыл бұрын
Let me guess, you are a realtor. How many times have you discounted the rate?@@noneofyourbusiness2554
@floweringevergreen3584
@floweringevergreen3584 Жыл бұрын
Without the buyer, no one gets paid. The buyer is the one who pays the realtor fees no matter how realtors spin it. Oh, and the buyer gets to pay property taxes in perpetuity on those realtor fees.
@lovly2cu725
@lovly2cu725 Жыл бұрын
? ITS ON MY CLOSING DOCS
@floweringevergreen3584
@floweringevergreen3584 Жыл бұрын
@@lovly2cu725 So?! That doesn't mean you're the one ultimately paying for them.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@floweringevergreen3584
@floweringevergreen3584 Жыл бұрын
The financial illiteracy and expectations on display here are honestly frightening.
@joesmith3590
@joesmith3590 Жыл бұрын
@@floweringevergreen3584yes you are very illiterate. That is like sayin in a buyout the lawyers of the other company represent the buying company since they are the new owners. That ant how it works guy living with your mom.
@Mike65962
@Mike65962 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, no person is worth $100k commission on a $1m plus house that I found on my own
@kerrytakashi12
@kerrytakashi12 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to sell and buy a few years ago until a major illness stopped me. Honestly, from my experience, the agents do earn their commissions. It is when the markets are deformed that things stop working. As a female, I felt better with representation buying and selling. These new legal developments can work or cause more problems.
@leri3365
@leri3365 Жыл бұрын
Finally.. doesn't make sense to pay 10k+ for someone to open a lockbox for us lmao
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
It’s much more than that. Are you only looking at one house? I doubt it.
@leri3365
@leri3365 Жыл бұрын
@noneofyourbusiness2554 I looked at 3-4 so I guess 3-4 lockboxes😂
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
And making sure your contract is properly written. Following up with many parties until closing and more. Get a clue.
@leri3365
@leri3365 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 I'm sure anyone can download the same contract and edit a few lines pertaining to their situation and answer phone calls😂 What a joke
@toomanymodz
@toomanymodz Жыл бұрын
I sold my condo FSBO and it was the best thing I did. In a hot market, realtors are not needed. The closing attorney does all the work. So save yourself thousands and sell it yourself.
@RamTrucks590
@RamTrucks590 Жыл бұрын
I have sold my homes with a listing agent and by owner. I'll probably sell by owner exclusively from now on as the commissions are getting up there. I never had a problem handling the sale myself.
@bradypatton1094
@bradypatton1094 Жыл бұрын
I dont need to pay someone 10k to open the lock box and show the bathroom.
@KCCardCo
@KCCardCo Жыл бұрын
A listing agent isn't going to be honest to a buyer that he/she has no contract with. This is where a buyer's agents contract comes into play because when you have a contract signed with a buyer's agent, the buyer's agent legally represents you. If you don't have any contract signed and there is a problem you're out of luck if you want to sue for malpractice. In my state by default if a buyer's agent contract isn't signed then the buyer's agent, again by default represents the seller which in many cases the buyer's agent doesn't even know the seller.
@sooofunny37
@sooofunny37 Жыл бұрын
what state is this?
@itubeonu
@itubeonu Жыл бұрын
Always appreciate the steady content and good info
@CarMaintenanceGuy
@CarMaintenanceGuy Жыл бұрын
In 2002 I was warning that THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE and that was after reading an article in the Sun Sentinel saying the "average" cost of a home in Broward was $400,000. WE NEED the entire housing market to collapse so bad until the REAL affordable $100k homes return back to the market. People earning $15-20/hr should be able to afford a single family home and not be forced to rent.
@jongonegone1262
@jongonegone1262 Жыл бұрын
the reset is coming. huuuuge.
@dirgesinthedark5637
@dirgesinthedark5637 Жыл бұрын
​@@jongonegone1262the reset is UN AGENDA 21 2030 DEPOPULATION
@floweringevergreen3584
@floweringevergreen3584 Жыл бұрын
If you aspire to own a home, do more with your life than unskilled minimum wage labor.
@wiseghost1
@wiseghost1 Жыл бұрын
People earning 15-20 bucks per hour living in a single family home is not sustainable anymore either. Maybe it was the case 40 years ago, but not now 🙁
@tjmns
@tjmns Жыл бұрын
@@floweringevergreen3584 Nope. Unsustainable. Correction coming. Printing dollars has caused inflation and debases the currency over time. 34 Trillion and counting.
@kriscsandli2147
@kriscsandli2147 Жыл бұрын
Especially during Covid the number realtors went up 700% Even if you get a buyer to sign an agreement stating they will use you. That does not stop them from using a family member or friend when it comes time to buying. Lose lose scenario for realtors unfortunately.
@jackwilson8051
@jackwilson8051 Жыл бұрын
I was a Realtor in Iowa for 40 yrs. I never had any problems with sellers not wanting to pay the buyer's agent. It was all disclosed on the listing agreement & the agency disclosure.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had this issue personally either. But clearly others have hence the lawsuit.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had this issue personally either. But clearly others have hence the lawsuit.
@GenXamerica
@GenXamerica Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Seems a lot of numbskulls have recently been licensed since 2020 and do not understand how to appropriately explain the fees. There has never been a “set” rate for anything. Everything has always been negotiable. Being an agent and doing it correctly representing clients is hard work and costly for crazy MLS fees and marketing, let alone what a broker charges. Once the market slows down, good agents will be in demand. Anyone who has never done the job full time to make a living has no idea. There are too many part time sometimes agents making side money that do nothing and give the rest a bad rap. People who have been in bad by owner deals can tell you why 😂
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Never had an issue and they won’t even after this silly lawsuit is done.
@NotReal20245
@NotReal20245 Жыл бұрын
My realtor refers a contractor to us then after the escrow closed, behind our back, she hired him to do her project as a priority over us then texted us. What a scumbag
@bizzygal7026
@bizzygal7026 Жыл бұрын
As a seller of two homes, I feel like both times, the realtor listed the home on MLS took a few pictures and then I never saw the realtor until it was time to discuss an offer and sign papers. The realtor that finds the buyer should be paid sooo much more than the realtor that listed the house on the MLS in my opinion.
@kyjahnsmith3685
@kyjahnsmith3685 Жыл бұрын
Based on your experience with those realtors that makes sense. A good realtor will give you a weekly update on how many showings and offers you’ve received and how much online traffic you’re generating. More realtor should also do variable rate commissions where they guarantee that they’ll get a certain result for you. For example “I’ll sell your home in 27 days guarenteed or I’ll discount my commission.” If more realtors did that sellers would be much more open to paying them and have a much better experience.
@judah5143
@judah5143 9 ай бұрын
FACTS !!!
@RERealityNY
@RERealityNY Жыл бұрын
We actually explain this on our radio show and our podcasts. The seller hires 1 Broker. The listing Broker. The listing Broker then offers to pay a "buyer's" Broker from their commission. The seller is never asked (in NY) to pay the buyer's Broker. The NAR lost their case because they have weak attorneys that are not aggressive enough...that and the fact that most people think that Realtors are all rich and they do nothing and are overpaid. (We also address this on our show) The reality is that the average Agent makes about 45k a year on commissions...no salary, no health benefits, all of their risk is theirs...however we agree, there are going to be a lot of agents and agencies that will be going out of business because of how difficult Real Estate sales are.
@ipenguin3918
@ipenguin3918 Жыл бұрын
A Realtor is useful as a Car Salesman!
@Cherrysmith2809
@Cherrysmith2809 Жыл бұрын
Having bought and sold a few houses over the years, my opinion is that the present system works best, having the seller pay to get the house sold. If buyers have to pay half, they will try to cowboy up and get the calf roped by themselves, creating no end of headaches for the seller’s agent and the seller. The volume of time spent for diminishing returns will drive up the sellers’ commissions to the selling agents over time.
@russbarrows6689
@russbarrows6689 Жыл бұрын
When I lived in Canada, "For Sale by Owners" were very popular. The only downside of doing it yourself was that your Open House signs kept "falling over from the wind" when there wasn't a wind. I wonder how that happened?
@sooofunny37
@sooofunny37 Жыл бұрын
what?
@Kragum24
@Kragum24 10 ай бұрын
@@sooofunny37 Sarcasm. Don't over-think it.
@danishhussain8046
@danishhussain8046 Жыл бұрын
The Commission should not be more than 1%. The buyer has to pay his 1% commission and the seller has to pay his 1% commission.
@Sony72604
@Sony72604 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯
@CD-vb9fi
@CD-vb9fi Жыл бұрын
Yep, a 1% each is a good number.
@trumpshare
@trumpshare Жыл бұрын
So glad you're the arbiter of what people should earn! Maybe we should look at what you make and decide if its correct?
@CD-vb9fi
@CD-vb9fi Жыл бұрын
@@trumpshare No one is stopping you from paying them more. I notice a lot of people like you expect everyone else BUT THEMSELVES to eat the cost of everything. now naff off...
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
Who knows that might happen
@Lil_Homie.
@Lil_Homie. Жыл бұрын
With today’s current home prices 6% is quite a bit of money!
@ipenguin3918
@ipenguin3918 Жыл бұрын
And, they'll keep the house price high for the commission.
@jjandj7582
@jjandj7582 Жыл бұрын
If I had a bouse for 400 K, the commission would be 24K. 2 brokers and 2 agents would get 6K each. If I sold it for 350K, the commisision would be 22K. 2 brokers and 2 agents would get be 500 less per agent. They'd be happy for me to come down.
@briank3754
@briank3754 Жыл бұрын
Say bye bye to real estate agents! Signing an exclusive deal with an agent is a massive mistake and you will regret it as a seller or a buyer. This lawsuit only benefits the people making money in the settlement and real estate agents. Sellers, get yourself a really good title company to advise through the sale. Pay to put your house on the MLS and close the deal without the hassle of dealing with an agent. I have bought and sold 4 of my 5 houses without an agent and it has saved me tens of thousands of dollars. I even had bidding wars on two of the houses I sold (one in 2014 and one in 2020). The process is much simpler without the hassle and nonsense that real estate agents bring to transaction. Buyers, protect yourself by doing your research and finding a good lawyer or title company to assist with the transaction. Don’t be a sucker and do your due diligence. Don’t fear homes for sale by owner. You have more to fear from a pushy deadbeat trying to make a buck on the purchase of your new home.
@internetpointsbank
@internetpointsbank Жыл бұрын
As a buyer how do you see houses on mls?
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Many states can’t close with title companies and agents aren’t going anywhere. This will hurt the consumer much harder than the agent.
@briank3754
@briank3754 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 a licensed attorney or title agent it’s about the same process. I’ve used both through the years. Either way the realtors are an unnecessary and costly expense in the home buying/selling process. In fact agents make the process more not less difficult for their clients.
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz Жыл бұрын
A title company isn’t going to give you expert advice about the market and selling the home
@briank3754
@briank3754 Жыл бұрын
@@Nogi-aka-DJNugz right, the market, lol. You must be a realtor. We get it, nobody is as intelligent and all knowing about the "market" as your local real estate agent. Realtors are in the same class of middle man trash as car salesman and all the rest. You don't own your clients homes they do.
@JackMorgan_RLP
@JackMorgan_RLP Жыл бұрын
When I bartended half the staff were real-estate agents / bartenders and servers
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised at all, considering there’s more real estate agents in Florida than practically anywhere lol
@JackMorgan_RLP
@JackMorgan_RLP Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBordenaro lol makes sense
@CondoMetropolis
@CondoMetropolis Жыл бұрын
In Europe the don't even have "buyer's agents." In the UK there's no such thing. So perhaps it will just be the same here. They simply see no need for a buyer's agent... as my dad says, "what do they do anyway?" The houses are all online.
@Ww8.3
@Ww8.3 Жыл бұрын
You don’t need a real estate agent. You can do everything with a real estate lawyer and skip the shenanigans
@novadhd
@novadhd Жыл бұрын
you need an agent to list your house (or at least a service)
@Ww8.3
@Ww8.3 Жыл бұрын
@@novadhd that’s what they told you.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
You do know that many attorneys can take the commission and will. This is an example of people not knowing what they are talking about. Attorneys are basically licensed to take commission.
@DazewithKaze
@DazewithKaze Жыл бұрын
No one needs a real estate agent anymore . We find our own homes online . And an attorney can do the paperwork cheaper . I know because my husband is an attorney.
@whousefilms
@whousefilms Жыл бұрын
I disagree. The more I learn about NAR the more I believe it's a racket. The realtor pays a lot more fees to just to say they are a realtor when they don't get paid for gas, marketing, sitting at open houses, etc. I know the sales process and I don't think Brokers offer that much value. The house is appraised and titled through 3rd party company. I mean the negotiation process is simplistic in nature. I work in media sales and its more harder than real estate negotiations.
@juanjarta
@juanjarta Жыл бұрын
@@1969bones69 i wouldnt say useless just because as a real estate investor i see how stupid most people are. Get excited if you said “hi” instead of “hey!” Lol. They wont be able to buy or sell without agent just because most ppl are idiots that work with emotion and deals will blow away in second because “she looked at me funny!deal is off!” Lol
@scottd8624
@scottd8624 Жыл бұрын
Ive worked with several agents as buyer, seller, and tenant. All but one of these agents were completely useless and undeserving of their commission.
@CrookedNewYorker
@CrookedNewYorker Жыл бұрын
This is good for private investors like myself who prefer to buy from private Sellers as we can get a property way cheaper. Most sellers don't even know how to price their homes and they always price it well below what it's worth.
@vanpreston4364
@vanpreston4364 Жыл бұрын
My best deals are always from FSBOs and wholesalers. Keep them coming! Great for investors since we have zero competition from the public.
@Kidbako1
@Kidbako1 Жыл бұрын
I just sold my second home and don’t see any way that an agent is worth what I have paid them. They were making 6% when houses were 30k and they still think they’re worth 6% of a 500k sale? They’re not. They should get maybe $2500 a sale regardless of home price. Stop sticking it to the sellers. We don’t all have deep pockets.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Did you pay the agent when you bought the house? Probably not.
@Kidbako1
@Kidbako1 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 i found the house online before my agent so no reason to pay him imo.
@stevenwistort9903
@stevenwistort9903 Жыл бұрын
This can get complex. There should be different options available. Buyers aren't going to want to pay upfront commissions, most of them.
@xyz987123abc
@xyz987123abc Жыл бұрын
Not happening.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Buyers who have no $$ won’t be able to buy. The mls is going no where. The agent is going no where. If you can’t pay commissions no one will help you. Not good for the consumer.
@robertterrones3621
@robertterrones3621 Жыл бұрын
We sold a property for $1.65 million. Our agent was absolutely fantastic. He earned his pay. We had major permit issues. On the day before closing the city he wrote us up for not having permits for an addition to one of houses. It got worse from there. It was ridiculous the stupid things he wrote us for. He found something wrong in every home. There were 4. Our agent went to the city and fought for us. We ended spending $45k to fix everything. If the agent and contractor hadn't gone to the city and argued our case it wood have cost us $145 K. The realtor and contractor continued to fight for us. It took 3 months to do all the work. The realtor came and checked the progress every other day and sometimes every day. Great experience. 4 years later my father-in-law passed away and my Mother-in-law couldn't live alone. We sold the property for $ million. He was there all the time checking on us. Needless to say he was Great! By the way each property sold within 3 days of listing it.
@noname-p2f2q
@noname-p2f2q Жыл бұрын
For years I have used a fixed amount commission on all my flip sales. I use a flat fee broker that allows me to set the buyer co op. Rather than a % I use a flat amount. I mention it in the listing and in on site detail pamphlets in the house at time of showing so the buyer is aware of the agents pay. If the agent tries to sway them off my house over my lower co op the buyer will know. But I am not paying an agent more than I paid for whole rehab just for showing a house. In fact as a former agent I know full well it’s far work to find and close a low priced house vs a high priced house. More work, more issues w condition, more showings, more offers denied over higher offers etc. why would I pay double for a 300k listing that’s all new and easy to close vs a 150k house that required far more work from the buyers agent to deal w? I shouldn’t. So I don’t. Key is you have to be in a position to say “don’t like my deal, walk”. And mean it.
@lakeseminole
@lakeseminole 11 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you. The Buyers agent should have a contract in place with the Buyer. You spend all of your time to assist the Buyer. For the buyer to say, oh, I have a new friend in Real Estate is complete nonsense. You are professionals who need to be paid for your time.
@inwiththenew
@inwiththenew Жыл бұрын
The first time I listed my condo, I told my agent to write the contract for 2.5% to go to the buyer's agent. I was only able to show the condo on certain days due to my work schedule. I heard from the front desk staff that buyers would ask to see my unit but their agent would tell them my condo wasn't available anymore. The mgmt staff would ask if I was no longer selling the unit, etc. It's one thing to say not available vs schedule a showing on another day. I eventually received an offer, but withdrew the listing due to moving logistics. Fast fwd 2 years later, relisted the condo this time with 3% commission to the buyer's agent and similar showing schedule. Never heard any feedback from the desk about my condo not being available and the condo sold within days. I really feel like buyer's agents were steering buyers away from my unit and towards other units for sale in my building due to the reduced commission the first time around.
@bryanmitchell5728
@bryanmitchell5728 Жыл бұрын
Should be a FLAT RATE!!!! The price of selling a home Fking ridiculous .
@zonker2u808
@zonker2u808 Жыл бұрын
People. More Commission to the Buyer's Agents = More Showings = More Offers = Higher Selling Price. Without paying Buyer Agents you save 3% and but you lose a whole lot more with a lower selling price. I'm an agent and when I sell my own properties, I gladly pay 3% to the buyer's agent for the added exposure and multiple offers they bring. I'm only one agent but when I offer 3% I have over a thousand agents trying to sell it. The system works perfectly. This will become a disaster - You may quote me.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
That was a point I was trying to convey in this video. A lot of people think it’s an easy job. Clearly they’ve never worked it. Also, I think a lot of people‘s opinion of how easy it is to sell a house is skewed with how quickly homes were selling over the past couple years.
@zonker2u808
@zonker2u808 Жыл бұрын
@@smbd6 If being a Realtor is so one-sided to benefit the Realtor, you should get your license, share in the good life and report back in a year.
@fsm12385
@fsm12385 Жыл бұрын
Pay up front for the agent will never work
@jkmarshall3553
@jkmarshall3553 Жыл бұрын
Buyers have always paid for their agent as they pay the whole price of the house and the 6% comes out of the proceeds. Just another way to look at it.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
Exactly and I pretty much mentioned that in the video when I talked about how sellers artificially inflate the price still the realtors commission. So in the end the buyer is paying everybody.
@OldJoeknows
@OldJoeknows Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion! Throws a lot of things up in the air as things get sorted out. We Realtors will be walking on eggshells to avoid running afoul of existing laws & FREC regulations. Thanks for the "heads up" & I'll be watching for your future update videos.
@Katadori09
@Katadori09 Жыл бұрын
Unless it’s a short sale, the only person who is bringing money to the table is the buyer. Therefore, the buyer always has paid the commission for both sides, either directly by paying them, or indirectly by folding the price of the commission into the house. Will sellers knock the price down 3% out of the goodness of their heart? No. But an extra 3% will hit aggregate demand because that puts housing even further out of buyers’ reach. The reduction in demand will push prices down in the long term. In the short term anything can happen. But in the long term, the market will be efficient.
@chipom9686
@chipom9686 Жыл бұрын
You can’t compare Agents in other countries to Agents in USA because most of them are salaried. In US it’s a 100% commission.
@mikebergen3375
@mikebergen3375 Жыл бұрын
Only ones that win in class actions are the winning parties attorneys. Nobody else will get much of anything Pennies
@sarahterry2140
@sarahterry2140 Жыл бұрын
That’s not always true; I’ve been made whole in 2 cases.
@mikebergen3375
@mikebergen3375 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahterry2140 i'll need your lawyers info.. i got 5% of what i lost in my class action... and the law firm got around 900k i got less then 6% of that amount.
@robocowone464
@robocowone464 Жыл бұрын
YOU DON'T NEED A REALTOR TO SELL OR BUY A HOUSE!!! YOU DO NEED TO USE A TITLE COMPANY TO DO THE CLOSING.
@GuyThompsonFWTX
@GuyThompsonFWTX Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic news. RE agents, and I have many friends that do this, don’t really provide a benefit equal to the cost.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
Stop lying. Do you tell them this?
@ronniepratt8710
@ronniepratt8710 6 ай бұрын
Real estate has become a scam game. People need to wake up, just because a house in the area sold for a certain price doesn't mean all houses should come up to that price. Especially if the house is smaller or doesn't have the same amenities. But that's the game now instead of the house selling on it's own merit's. It's all a bunch of BS just because of these agents and comps, which are comparable most of the time.
@katydid2877
@katydid2877 Жыл бұрын
When I bought my condo in 2021 I had already been tracking the market in the area for a year. I knew which complex I wanted to buy in, the floor plan I liked, and the price range that would work. When I was ready to buy I found one, called the listing agent, the condo I had found was already gone, but there was a unit that wasn’t listed yet. Looked at it, made an offer, done. Maybe they should have paid me 3%.
@krisb7465
@krisb7465 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would ask for and negogiate a reduction in commission as you represented yourself.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
You seem to forget that you only found out about it because of the agent. You didn’t do anything.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
She didn’t pay commission. The seller did. Her story is fictional.
@katydid2877
@katydid2877 Жыл бұрын
His job was so complicated. He met me at the unit down the street from the other listing. I would have seen it when it was listed. Made it super easy for the seller. . @@noneofyourbusiness2554
@casienwhey
@casienwhey Жыл бұрын
ive never understood why there is a fixed percentage for a home purchase or sale, especially if it's a more expensive home. The work should be about the same so why the fee be the same for a $1million house or a $10 million house?
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
They always lower the commission percentage on higher price homes
@hvaball150
@hvaball150 Жыл бұрын
Well, it's usually not the same percentage....but regardless - you think finding a buyer for a $300k house is the same as finding a buyer for a $10M house??? Like they are equally easy to find? I seriously doubt it.
@blahblah-qx4uk
@blahblah-qx4uk Жыл бұрын
In Western Australia the average real estate commission rate ranges from 2.44% to 3.25%. And this is only for the Sellers Agents commission. Sellers can sell privately if they want to do all the work. Buying Agents are very rarely used, only if the buyer may live elsewhere they can negotiate for an agent to seek suitable properties on their behalf. i would guess that 99% of buyers do not use an agent. They do use a solicitor, conveyancer or settlement agent when the contract is finalised and settled, these are usually about $500 in fees paid by the buyer. The seller will also have their own settlement agent. They deal with all the title transfers, mortgages, etc. The major cost is State Government Stamp Duty paid by the buyer. On a $400,000 home the duty is about $25,000. The upside is that typical annual council rates are about $2,000 depending on the area and value of the property.
@TheSuperdodgy
@TheSuperdodgy Жыл бұрын
Stamps on a $400K home is about $15k
@jimshoe402
@jimshoe402 Жыл бұрын
No agent BUT lawyer ($600) 3% in ORD..Town Bones u on Way Out..😝😝😝
@StarbaseTx
@StarbaseTx Жыл бұрын
The payment model for real estate agents is absolutely insane. Think about it. They get paid a percentage based on the sale price of the house. They're incentive isn't to get you the best price, they're incentive is to get the largest commission they can. Where else in life do you see anything is ridiculous as this? This is why it's going away. Your representative is working against you!
@juanjarta
@juanjarta Жыл бұрын
Im an investor so i dont use agents but have a lot of friends who are agents. Problem is most people are cheap / bsers that never buy anything, and the agent shows them houses for 2-3 months without getting paid. I like michaels idea - u want a buyer agent? Pay $2k upfront, commit and put your money where your mouth is
@JoeSmith-gj8bn
@JoeSmith-gj8bn Жыл бұрын
I disagree (sort of). I believe their incentive is to get the most on their commission with the least work possible almost agreeing to sellers terms not in the best interest of their clients so they can make their money with the least amount of work possible. So I’m sure they would sacrifice some bags to get the sale thru as quick as possible
@notsofamous240
@notsofamous240 Жыл бұрын
How about they just make the commission reasonable? This 6% or 5% is way too much. Make it 3% split between both buyers and sellers agent- problem solved. The problem in typical fashion is greed. I’ve been doing loans for 20 years and we make 1% on every transaction. When I first started I could make 2.5% but clearly it was too much. I still make a good living and am not breaking people’s backs in commission. Agents have been making way too much for way too long.
@StarbaseTx
@StarbaseTx Жыл бұрын
@@notsofamous240 I just need you to explain to me how the real estate commission model is in the interest of the buyer? When your commissioned earnings are predicated on the sale price of the house, meaning you make more money the higher the price of the house, how is that possibly any interest of the buyer? Give me one other example. Consider you are a pro athlete, or a musician, or anybody who has an agent working for them, now imagine that agent doesn't try to get you the most money possible. That would never happen. Because they get a commission, your agent will try to get you the biggest contract possible, the most amount of money! As in show me the money! Real estate agents are not working in the interest of the buyer.
@Studiovette
@Studiovette Жыл бұрын
Sold my last two homes without a realtor saving me over 50k in commissions. It takes a little bit of work but definitely not rocket science
@hvaball150
@hvaball150 Жыл бұрын
The buyers agent gets paid for bringing a buyer... Kind of important sometimes... otherwise all you have is 3 or 4 people there pulling their pud.
@MichaelBordenaro
@MichaelBordenaro Жыл бұрын
A lot of people here think that buyers agents don’t bring any value. Will be interesting to see where it all goes from here.
@tammyicious
@tammyicious Жыл бұрын
We purchased our townhouse in 1996 and had no agent, and the home we purchased was for sale by owner. The seller sure lucked out ... they had a lawyer draw up all the contracts, etc.
@scottkeeports2308
@scottkeeports2308 Жыл бұрын
Push back: Buyers are smart. They have so much more info than in years past. Buyers will reach out to the listing agent directly to make a deal. The losers will be agents who can not secure listings. They will be the ones who will need to find a new job. Yes, these lawsuits will cause a paradigm shift how commissions will be paid and earned. Disruptions will create opportunities.
@macdogg15
@macdogg15 Жыл бұрын
Any opportunities you can think of top of mine? Especially from an investor perspective?
@scottkeeports2308
@scottkeeports2308 Жыл бұрын
Watch your county foreclosure websites, Xome, Hudson and Marshall, Hubzu. Proceed with caution. Slow, Slow, then Suddenly.
@joesmith3590
@joesmith3590 Жыл бұрын
Lol buyers are smart. Yea the guys buying everything over asking with no inspections are smart.
@grumpyschnauzer
@grumpyschnauzer Жыл бұрын
I told my broker “I’m not stupid and I’m not gonna be duped.”
@grumpyschnauzer
@grumpyschnauzer Жыл бұрын
I also don’t like your $2000 up front cost to a buyers agent. Realtors are so lazy and don’t even freakin know the contracts they sign!!!
@violetlightburst
@violetlightburst Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I sold a house through Berkshire in the summer. Class actions a long process & usually recipients only get a few bucks. This suit will differ by states too, so may be like Vegas cab drivers only set rates.
@kurts6741
@kurts6741 Жыл бұрын
The lawyers will get the bulk of the $1.8B.
@hvaball150
@hvaball150 Жыл бұрын
Just list your house with 2 prices. One with a buyers agent. One without. Like cash or credit pricing.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
You can’t. Mls makes the rules. Not that simple.
@hvaball150
@hvaball150 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 are you saying it is a MLS rule on listing? I was looking at a truck yesterday online and the price reflected a bunch of stuff (cash price after $2000 down). It was written in the description. When the buyer shows up with an agent, you just boost the price accepted over asking. I can list on MLS for $400k, then make pending/closing result be $425k. The last few years there were plenty of over asking bids. I'd imagine the MLS doesn't care.
@Frank-nh9fe
@Frank-nh9fe Жыл бұрын
Compensation for Buyer’s Agents will eventually be a fixed price fee based on competition, which is the way it should be. 3% of the house price is crazy high. For what they do, a few hundred is reasonable.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
You can’t…. That’s price fixing boss. Buyers with no money are screwed because there won’t be a realtor that will help them for free. Good luck.
@Frank-nh9fe
@Frank-nh9fe Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 If a buyer can’t afford to pay a buyer’s agent ( a fixed fee, not a percentage of the home value) then they likely cannot afford to buy a house. When the smoke clears, this fee will likely be rolled into the mortgage. Banks will support this so as to encourage sales. Collectively we ( gov, banks, etc.) play a lot of games to get marginal buyers into a home. Understand the intent, but we end up often getting these buyers in trouble.
@georgetaylor2819
@georgetaylor2819 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes - the potential buyer will find a FSBO (For Sale By Owner) and walk away from you. PLUS - please mention each side will FIRST take care to pay the BROKERAGE and all other expenses and get the buyer's commission AFTER those expenses are taken care of. Paying for leads is one example.
@KCCardCo
@KCCardCo Жыл бұрын
I guarantee no one on that jury knows anything about real estate or real estate law.
@grandpapete417
@grandpapete417 11 ай бұрын
Neither do Realtors
@bsharp1533
@bsharp1533 9 ай бұрын
@@grandpapete417if they didn’t, I don’t think they would’ve passed the course or exam, which is administered by the state.
@NotReal20245
@NotReal20245 Жыл бұрын
I m just hiring an attorney to review the transactions from now on. I don’t trust realtors anymore
@stewmeat9261
@stewmeat9261 Жыл бұрын
I sold my house in California to leave the state. I negotiated with my realtor down to 4.5% and he staged the house for free. The house sold for $1.05 m which saved me $15,750. remember people you can negotiate that price. Especially now !
@viperviper5
@viperviper5 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. Commission s are negotiable
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
And that’s how it’s done. People are just whiners by nature.
@Tootsie806
@Tootsie806 Жыл бұрын
What wasn’t mentioned in the video is bonus to buyer’s agent. It’s been a common practice for home builders for years, but I’m seeing it more and more with resale homes. If your agent seems to be pushing a builder or particular home, as a seller, you will be shelling out more money, and as a buyer, you’re agent may not be working in your best interest.
@TurquoiseSunsets
@TurquoiseSunsets Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Love your channel! Just want to remind your viewers it really isn't that difficult to buy or sell your own home without a realtor and many realtors are lazy and useless. I am 70 years old and since I began dabbling in real estate back in 1979 with over thirty transactions; spec buying and flipping homes, lot purchases while doing my own architectural design and homebuilding (9) homes in California and Nevada, I accomplished all this often without using realtors all. Commission free transactions are certainly possible and more favorable to us. It's not that difficult in most cases. But true, sometimes a realtor can be useful on more complicated transactions..
@survivingthetimes
@survivingthetimes Жыл бұрын
😂 A lot of potential buyers are already whining and stomping around and carrying on about the prices these days. Most of these young'uns are going to grow old waiting on that phantom $100,000 house that was supposed to show back up on the market a year ago like it was 1988 or something. These prices are here to stay. Little do they know that they're going to have to suck it up and learn how to get along in this insane world that they created.
@SuperCobragold
@SuperCobragold Жыл бұрын
In my country where there are to many agents, the selling commission has come down to 1%. There is no buyers agent commission. What does a sellers agent do to earn that amount. They will advertise the house on all available mass media and wait for a buyer to show up. For that there are given 6%, thats 60000 for a million dollar house. I will put up a for sale signboard in front of my house and wait for a buyer. For rental its half a % for a years rental and 1 % for 2 years rental. You people need to do some legwork to save the money you will give to the agent to fund his rich life style. Look at the car they drive and house they live in, all because of the insane amount of money they make for doing nothing.
@RADIUMGLASS
@RADIUMGLASS Жыл бұрын
This suit is going to create more problems for everyone. Agents pay a monthly office fee, a yearly cap, they pay for access to the mls, they pay to be in the NAR. I have access to managers and a legal team at my office where I can ask questions and seek advice from a manager. As a buyer's agent I have somebody right now that I'm on the 15th home with. The fuel cost is easily a minimum of $200 so far. What we do isn't charity work. Some people think a buyer's agent is working for the fun of it along with their client. I'm not going into homes just for the fun of it and seeing what it looks like for the thrill. The 6% average is fine, there is nothing wrong with it and some people actually want to work with a realtor. Many realtors don't charge a retainer but now that is going to change and these retainers aren't going to be 200-300 dollars it could go into the thousands. This is going to affect agents, buyers and sellers. Just imagine how bad its going to be for people looking for rentals in an already limited market.
@NegativeBananya
@NegativeBananya Жыл бұрын
Most agents say no. I will not negotiate commission rates I went through 10 agents to I find one to go to 5% It's not easy to negotiate and find the correct agent Obviously, some agents work hard for their money, but I'm not a normal buyer asking dumb questions and not knowing what i want. Buying a house in CA where they are around 1 million, i think 6% is way too much for commission
@Crashdown2031
@Crashdown2031 Жыл бұрын
Real estate agents are only good for paper work after the sale. Especially now that the mls listings are easily accessible.
@noneofyourbusiness2554
@noneofyourbusiness2554 Жыл бұрын
You clearly have never worked beside an agent after the paperwork. The attorneys are a nightmare and so are most title companies. I’m working on a deal right now for 4 months because of crappy legal counsel. Finally closing next week because of me, not the attorneys.
@Crashdown2031
@Crashdown2031 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness2554 I had a fine experience working with just a title company selling my last house.
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