Senior World Fencing Championship Moscow 2015 Men's Epee Semi-Final Grumier (FRA) vs Jorgensen (DEN)

[@joshuapatrick682]

Fencing, the only sport where constant feinting isn’t boring as hell!!!!

[@Abi-2790]

And here I am thinking that Mark was actually pretty good at fencing

[@eudolf5601]

good to see im not the only one who look at this vid after looking at mark vid

[@Abi-2790]

@@eudolf5601 You are not alone my fellow otaku ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@a___toaster__1177]

I thought I was the only one

[@jeykk]

he went to bhfc. I've fenced some of their kids at a competetion. They're not really good. Edit: you may think i'm an adult, but i'm actually just a kid posting this

[@mohammednasheed9638]

Zeldris 2B profile picture? Yeah you’re obviously definitely a kid dude.

[@acarrot9868]

Y'all here got recommended after Markiplier, I got this after watching Lindybeige fence with a pro fencer

[@frangotino]

the algorithm does not disappoint

[@junioru1312]

Says you 3 years after this video has been posted

[@flokey8336]

i actually fence myself, so no sorry

[@dyfushonman5250]

loo

[@joshuapatrick682]

7:13 the blade beat attempt seemed a bit ill advised against an opponent who can disengage so adeptly. Never even saw it coming.

[@user-dv6ot5nu5d]

I really enjoyed watching the game. If I want to point one thing about Grumier’s winning is that he is playing in a calm way he counts every step and know exactly what to do, unlike Jorgensen he moves too much with unsteady steps. He seemd to show off his skills and splurge on. Good game!

[@HolyLionChris]

it could look like that, but i think that Jorgensen just wants to control the distance between the two.

[@custer3176]

Jorgensen has a very active approach and he wanted to create possibilities to hit and control the tempo and distance of the match. Grumier on the other hand waited for Jorgensen to make a mistake and make an unprepared attack or alternatively attack while Jorgensen is preparing an attack. I guess you dont fence but still pretty good analysing.

[@user-dv6ot5nu5d]

@@custer3176 Yes I don’t fence but I like to watch a lot of fence matches, thank you.

[@joshuapatrick682]

Patrick is trying to use body movement versus Gauthier who uses arm movement, interesting matchup through the first 10 minutes

[@robinclercx3402]

Great match. Very exciting.

[@ninasladonja3433]

Just skip to 3:45

[@tunakann7629]

He shoulda used his weapon art after that R2 for that extra 260 damage.

[@Javid_74]

Jorgensen with those clutch shots!

[@sebz8362]

This video showed up in recommendations after watching the Markiplier fencing video.

[@mikikolongshore6497]

oh yeah

[@BigVigo]

Every pro fencer has a super bouncy blade that probability weighs 3 grams

[@CS-hf4dq]

Bruh fr, and im sitting here with a rusty piece of garbage that cant even bend right

[@moXnoX1]

770 g

[@manuapplejuice]

I think I want to learn fencing now

[@dztrzit]

it’s fun af I’ve been doin it since I was 13

[@manuapplejuice]

@@dztrzit Oh, ok, it will be a little hard, in México we dont have so many academys

[@peestrem31]

its a bit hard to get used to footwork when you start but after a bit you get used to it

[@goosey1561]

Its a shame there are only 3 places that teach fencing in my state, and im hours away from all of them

[@lunaelumen6622]

Sad

[@lunaelumen6622]

Your state, in the US ?

[@Lentsku]

How about HEMA clubs?

[@lacimarie4041]

There's one twenty minutes from me but my dad doesn't wanna drive me there once a week. I personally don't think I'm asking much but my parents rarely wanna drive me places. 😒😡

[@Lentsku]

@@lacimarie4041 Can't you use public transport?

[@dakotablack2003]

I remember watching fencing when i was a kid. There was much more slashing and perrying. I guess because there were no sensors you had to go for bigger blows.

[@Lafence]

No. It's maybe because you watched foil or saber and not épée

[@ChihuahuaChappie]

Ty

[@manuapplejuice]

I think Mark drag me into fencing

[@Azami0001]

I'm not a fencer but what's the point of allowing leg touches if you're just going to mostly hit the body?

[@kaspergarmspindler9809]

When you aim for the legs, you pull your head and upperbody forward of your own legs. This makes you vulnerable. As you see in this match, Patrick Joergensen goes for the feet quite often. IT is a risky move, but something kind of unexpected. But to answer your question; their style are wellforged towards protecting the Whole body, IT is easier and quicker to aim at your opponents body.

[@andrewking6178]

What would be the point of not allowing it though? A good game is one that has the least rules but still works. Bring too many rules into a game and you inevitably create a "meta" play style. Create a game with a goal and no rules and if it isn´t broken it´s beautiful. Epee is only beautiful because there are no rules like the right of way or allowed hits in foil or sabre fencing.

[@a.ham.9856]

It's very easy, almost instinctive, to kick your legs back and throw your weight forward. When someone goes for your leg they tend to expose themselves ALOT. The exception is pinking someone's kneecap (which is safe to do if they're retreating in a orderly fashion) or going for the foot (but you'd better take your shot and recover quickly). Truth be told i was never much of a leg guy, scored maybe 50 leg touches ever and mostly on people who opened themselves up to it. Against many folks it's suicide.

[@lordwater4184]

I love piano tennis fencing playing call of duty

[@xxhoopgawdxx5356]

Youmad Uknowumad good for you man

[@MrNight-dg1ug]

punctuation

[@bre9156]

Ok

[@donaldbadowski290]

I've watched that last touche by Grumier 6 times and I can't see how it landed.

[@kirbs0001]

Thrust into the back of the wrist, before sliding past. It's hard to see because of the camera angle. Due to the quickness of the point being registered, and the camera angle, it looks more like an edge than a point. However, the point caught on the wrist first.

[@kirbs0001]

If you advance frame by frame at 20:52 you can see the moment the epee deflects when the point is registered

[@mrwizzardknight]

Has anybody ever been hit in the bare none sword hand fencing épée before? That hasn’t happened to me and I’ve been fencing épée 5 years long than foil! XD

[@custer3176]

Yes i have, it hurts. A lot

[@kamilaizer6586]

I dont understand why the heck does that jorgensen just hop around, i mean, he's just wasting his energy on moving unsteady

[@rubyred3109]

Actually that bouncing is quite common in epee. It was originally developed by Johan harmenberg, a national champion. It's supposed to help in changing direction quickly

[@kamilaizer6586]

@@rubyred3109 oh ok. I guess that does explain it. I thought it was because he wanted to trick the eye of the opponent or smth

[@texdillinger6173]

Against Grumier who is a patient fencer, he is trying to keep him occupied all the time. Grumier is good at building situations but if he keeps moving all the time and pressuring him, he makes sure he himself is in controll of the situation. Altough this seems like he is doing it overextensively.

[@nicolel175]

Yeah, bouncing around helps keep control of the distance, and makes your swordwork more fluid.

[@sadwalrus982]

I really want Patrick to win

[@herbertaloysreinders5883]

MY SPORT

[@the_galo_system]

who else watched this after watching marks fencing video? good game

[@lunaelumen6622]

🤺🤺🤺

[@orbex106]

Gg

[@drspaseebo410]

??

[@drspaseebo410]

For some reason I cannot quite discern, I don't enjoy watching a righties and lefties opposing. Also, designs on face masks can be extremely distracting. /

[@Azami0001]

I feel like right and left comment is a bit exaggerated. Fencing is a fast paced sport that uses SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT (ahem swords) I dont claim to be a huge fencing fan but the sport reminds me of fighting videogame tournaments. It's almost the same when it comes to spectating.

[@hasmukhpatni7356]

🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺

[@hespheiden1]

This is so boring. The fencing in the movies is fun to watch, like Wesley vs Inigo Montoya. But this is just boring.

[@Zekrom134]

I find it extremely entertaining. Movie fencing is certainly impressive to look at but of course wouldn't be close to sport fencing because it's full of unecessary moves. Both have their qualities, and are not comparable.

[@Zekrom134]

Please consider watching foil or sabre fencing as well, these weapons tend to induce more action and fast-paced matches

[@gohlincoln1243]

@@Zekrom134 i do sabre, professional matches don't exactly last long

[@Zekrom134]

@@gohlincoln1243 that's... what I'm saying

[@Potat-o]

Jesus fencing is boring.

[@CS-hf4dq]

man all sports are boring when u are watching them

[@ThePinkHardHat]

@@CS-hf4dq I mean not boxing also I know this was a year ago lol. Hope your doing okay.