Sennheiser HD 600 vs Yamaha HPH-MT5 vs Yamaha HPH-MT8

[@bodhisattva4080]

I have never commented on a KZbin video before but felt I just had to after watching your MT-5 reviews. Actually I was looking at buying some Beyerdynamic DT1990 PRO's retailing at about £380 but your enthusiasm for the MT-5's has infected me and so I am going to order the Yamahas right now (even before I watch this 3rd video in your MT-5 series😁). I believe you are no longer creating videos in English- what a shame as you are an excellent reviewer👍🏼. Thank you for such great videos.

[@ayubmaruf3074]

Could you update, what's your opinion on the mt5?

[@sung_yun]

Yeah it's super sad that you're not doing reviews in English, especially when you're just a joy to watch!!

[@fried_out]

Just when I decided to plunge into the HD600, you come out with this and get me back into the dilemma territory :D

[@fried_out]

I already posses the M50x which are closed back and easy to drive, so I was thinking of going into the open-back world with the HD600's, since they are regarded as the best in their class. I think the V shaped sound of the M50x for gaming coupled with the flatness of the HD600 for music listening would be the best option. Is there a huge difference between the MT5 and the M50x soundwise?

[@stevenroutledge5584]

Just bought the mt5's on your recommendation.Love the reviews..You're so handsome and Teutonic x

Awesome review, thank you for your passionate evaluation and comparison! It's funny because I tried buying the MT5s based on your recommendation but they were not available where I live, and finally ended up ordering the MT8s at a discount from a local music supplier... Which is great because I was personally more inclined to the comfort and looks of the MT8 anyway :) They should arrive tomorrow!!

[@miltenburg77]

I was already convinced and ordered the mt5. Can't wait to try them! Thx

[@joseph-pi8qc]

@@Red-Eyed_Black_Cave_Hamster yes, wanna to know too

[@marsover1]

@@Red-Eyed_Black_Cave_Hamster kool, so professional

[@denziljamatia4353]

Reveiw pls

[@cafedelmike]

I own both the MT5's and the MT8's and I'm sorry but there is really no comparison here. The MT8's are far superior to the MT5's in almost every way. OK the highs are a little harsh and piercing at first due to being so close to the ear but if you compare this to a set of high end speakers the highs are also piercing, just further away. This harshness softens slightly over time and the transparency and bass definition is a league above. Value for money, the MT5's are great for a low budget but the 8's is where it's really at! For both studio work and dj'ing the 8's simply out perform everything else in their class in my opinion.

[@hectorg.7282]

When I heard you say the MT-5s were your new reference cans (replacing the HD 600), I thought it was an exaggeration. I ordered some to try out since having a closed pair to use in noisy environments would be nice. I got them and you were not exaggerating at all, the fidelity on the MT-5 is outstanding. Thank you. Edit: when paired with a very nice amp the hd600 do sound a bit cleaner (not everyone will hear this), but for on the go environments the MT-5 is as close to perfection as you can get. imho.

[@montazownianr1]

So, today I got it, and Im testing it , for now I can tell, that MT5 will be good for mixing, with little bit of EQ also for music, but loosing that warm full sound from HD 600, but better highs, I can hear better some sounds, that I havent heard on HD 600. Very similar to HD 600 but without musicality so, this headphones are for studio mixing/mastering and extra for music listening :)

[@montazownianr1]

Second day of testing: My ears are bit sweat after 2-3 hours of listening, I dont have this with HD 600 even after 12h. Senh. are more comfortable ;) With HD 600 I almost dont feel nothing after listening, but when I took off yamahas then its a bit of relief ;)

[@DrustIV]

Very good review, passionate and sincere. "What would I change on the MT5's? ..............................................." Brilliant! Sometimes silence can speak a thousand words. I am eagerly anticipating delivery of my MT5's tomorrow.

[@DrustIV]

MT5's came today, the bass is there, the trebles are smooth and lovely, but the mids are outstanding, not recessed, using for mixing they are incredibly accurate, balanced and solid. I LOVE them, so thanks for this review - Sie hast echt. Hey, I'm judging them against some very nice cans but they all have that treble fizz and shimmer, spiked frequencies to seduce the ears I guess, but it's artificial, the MT5's are REAL!

[@worldgonewrong2049]

I completely echo your comments on the Yamaha MT5's! They are extremely good headphones, and a great value for the price!

[@babu.x990]

Thank you for the review. Ordering MT8 now

[@evilmako]

If for some reason this becomes viral you're setting fire on a lot of audiophile's statements here, Damir...hahahaha. My MT5 haven't arrived yet but I'm waiting to hear that... If I take my father's HD600 and I can actually feel the difference in bass, then this is a HUGE strike from Yamaha and I hope they get the commercial success they deserve. Keep it going man!

[@jamesgray9408]

Hi Sam, I was wondering if you tried the above and your thoughts on it? As I'm a little stuck with getting the MT5's, they sound like they are what I'm looking for but Ive heard from some that the highs are a little sharp and most people say that the HD600's are miles above the rest, (the go-to) but the price tag of the MT5's is so inviting

[@jamesgray9408]

+Damir Franc thanks for the speedy reply! loving the videos keep it up!!

[@Harolddespui]

sam170708 How has your MT5 vs HD600 adventure ended?

[@johnjameson4143]

The Yamaha headphone and the HD600 are two different animals. The Yamaha is a sealed headphone for studio applications, the HD600 is designed to be connected to hi fi stereo equipment. The Yamaha can be use for low powered devices, the Sennheiser is more for big head units. Comparing them head-to-head and saying which one is better is stupid. It depends on the equipment you have and your purpose for using it. And if you have good high powered equipment, the Sennheiser will kick the shit out of the Yamaha, but it won't if all you're doing is plugging it into a friggin computer

[@johnjameson4143]

The hd 600 and 650 were designed to scale higher and higher with better and better equipment. Studio headphones like the Yamaha and the M50 and the Sony 7506 cannot do that, The drivers are not as high-end as the ones that are used in the 600 series

[@johnjameson4143]

And im sorry to say that the sennheiser hd 579 is in the same boat as the studio headphones, it cannot handle the higher end stuff like the 600 series can for the same reasons, the Yamaha and the Sony and the hd579 Will suffer from terrible distortion at higher volumes on higher end equipment That is why Sennheiser created the 600 and 700 and the 800, to pair better with the higher-end equipment- higher model number headphones for higher end equipment You already have two great headphones, the 600 and the 650. Now you need to start treating them right, feed them right, give them a good solid headphone amplifier like the $349 Schiit Valhalla 2, or even better, buy one of Sennheiser's head amps they they created to be paired with these headphones To go another level up, replace your cables with Balanced cables There is the proof that you requested.

[@Blaster1995.]

Buying a yamaha headphones or the sennheiser to plug in a computer in a bad desicion? I just want the best audio headphones price - quality for ''domestic use''

[@jamiemb17]

Love this dude, you are a great reviewer 🙂👍

[@thatspiritualhumane]

You are a very good passionate reviewer of headphones 🤘

[@adminmovie]

MT220 was the Yamaha's best achievement.. best detailed bass presentation and attack.. unfortunately it's discontinued now..

[@vkvedam]

True, they are quite remarkable

[@BillyBanter100]

MT5s are except excellent everyday studio phones. Very comfortable and neutral sounding. I also use the MT7s which are modeled on the NS10 monitors so very revealing. Also consider the Sennheiser HD 400 pro headphones. Cheaper than the 600s but excellent neutral open backs in my opinion. The HD 400 pros have a very accurate soundstage so great for mixing and mastering.

[@007sMoneyPenny]

I'm that curious to check out the differences in music quality between my current headphones 🎧 + spotify premium ("extreme quality ") with my new Sennheiser Momentum overear headphones 🎧 + the Onkyo Digital Audio Player+ Tidal lostless Hi Res music.. and later on with the already ordered Yamaha MT5, for sure 😇😆💃👀. Thanks Damir for these quite good reviews for the headphones!!

[@supernova1976]

Jennifer Zenner looking forward to hearing back from you once you get the mt5, because I want to know how they compare to the momentum

[@supernova1976]

Damir Franc thank you for the feedback.

[@007sMoneyPenny]

supernova1976 can do it. However, I didn't have the full experience as Damir f. I. have to compare these. Like he already mentioned..with the Sennheiser 600 which I don't know/ had never tested before. But I can write my personal opinion about it.

[@montazownianr1]

Sennheiser Momentum 2 ... what a crap headphones :( I was really disappointed. After one hour of listening, my head and ears hurt so much.

[@zhenwang4108]

hi Damir, not sure if DAP without a headphone amp (like oppo ha-2 or fiio) could drive the mt5 well?

[@jamesgray9408]

+Damir Franc Just wondering if you have ever listened to, or have, Beyerdynamic DT-770's? I'm looking for some closed back headphones I can use for gaming and music production that are comfortable to wear for longer times and have a good sound stage for what I need them for and it looks like it's between these two at the moment, the main points for me are that the DT-770's look more comfortable but the MT5's are cheaper...

[@kms3530]

the video and sound quality are top notch man

[@MRbeqa100]

Really want to know how MT 5 compares to HD 280 Pro

[@TheNitpicker]

Never heard the 280

[@svonegov8199]

Happy 50000 subscribers!

[@babagonzaga]

So just to verify, why did you go with the mt5 over the mt8? I actually bought both and I'm switching back and forth between them trying to decide which one I like the best lol

[@savanaviolenta]

So which one do you like more?

[@DJaquithFL]

I prefer Sennheiser's comfort and sound quality.

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

I don't

[@HOTSPEEDMike]

oh yes love this comparison! will you be reviewing B&O H6 2nd gen? As well as sony MDR-1A?

[@PhilHarrisTV]

Damir Franc ohhh I'll look forward to hearing what you think of the H6's.

[@DaftBunny]

I really like the 1A's for use on a mobile phone or on the run. They are mega comfortable, have a lot of bass (bit boomy for some) and the mids are still nicely present. There is some treble roll-off though. They are generally warm and relaxed. The H6's resolve more detail, are tighter, are more neutral but a bit harsh to my ears. I am quite sensitive to the 5-7k range. I love the 1A's for their musicality. Just don't expect them to be neutral :D

[@PhilHarrisTV]

I really can't stand the sony house sound, I'd rather hear the detail in my music rather than flabby bass

[@DaftBunny]

Well, the 1A's improved on that regard wrt the 1R's before them. The details aren't completely gone and the bass is not as bloated anymore. But they are no match for the H6 when it comes to detail. They strike a much better balance though. If you get a chance to hear them, give them a shot :)

[@PhilHarrisTV]

Yeah, I've got the H6's on right now, the 2nd gen

[@jamesbrown8766]

I recently bought the MT-8, and I’m a bit disappointed. I like an even, transparent bass, which the MT-8 has, but the high end is too hot and overshadows the bass. So at casual first listen, they sound like the bass is missing, but if you pay attention, the bass is totally there.

[@pedrovgc]

After 2 years, is it still worth the MT5? I have seen good reviews of the AKG K550 MK II that are now at around 130, and also I feel somehow lured by the pioneer HRM-6 which look similar in the sound signaute from what I have read, slightly bumped lows and good mids and highs, with presence but not harsh. Any recommendations for around 150 euros of reference but not boring sound signature, easy to drive and comfortable closed over hear headphones in 2019? Thanks!

[@TheNitpicker]

up to this point I still haven't used any other headphone in this price range I like more, I guess that's a yes

[@pedrovgc]

@@TheNitpicker wow, that is much to say about a 100 euro piece of sound tech, I am buying my own pair just today then, I trust your criteria after having checked some if your through reviews. Keep posting please! Regards from Spain

[@Tigerex966]

Please test the Phillips SPH 9500, you can replace the earpads, make them closed, etc. But they sound great as they are. about $75. Great review by the way.

[@Tigerex966]

oh no what am i going to do? no prob. thats cool, they have great imaging and a wide soundstage, I think you will like them, although the treble may be high. They work great with the magni 2 on low gain.

[@erwinnatividad7531]

Can i use yamaha mt 5 for voice over?

[@filipmilosavljevic8316]

Hey Damir, can you by chance tell me if the AKG K550 is worth it for 80 euros?

[@adminmovie]

Filip Milosavljević I'd say yes...

[@gogigp]

Long time no see and no hear, hope you're well and satisfied! And watching this I wondered, did you ever try German Maestro GMP 8.35? And M50X BT.

[@TheNitpicker]

Nope, didn't.

[@gogigp]

@@TheNitpicker these German 8.35 are astonishing ppl on the lvl MT5 do. And many are great fans of MT5. More expensive though, but not that much. Did you even hear for them?

[@TheNitpicker]

Never even heard of them before

[@DaftBunny]

Funny, the problems you describe with the HD600 are exactly what is addressed in the mods for the HD650's. You can get the best of both worlds. Do you still have them? If so, look up the Dynamat mods and try for yourself. I think they could go to the top of your list ;) The bass will still not be super 'tight', but that's the only real criticism you might have. Modded HD650's are just something special. A lot of much more experienced listeners than me have proclaimed them to be the 'best under 1000 dollars'.

[@DaftBunny]

Well, if you're interested, check out this thread: www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/hd650-kiss-mod.3440/ EDIT: the last post on the first page has a modded HD650 vs HD600 frequency response graph comparison. The mods mainly add details and tighten up the bass. As a consequence of the tightening of the bass the mids shine through a little better as well. But maybe not as much as you would like. It's all personal of course :) And it's maybe a bit much to buy the HD650's again to try it. But I think you'd like the modded 650's :)

[@mylesm4225]

Can you please suggest me what heaphone is better between mt5 and sony mdr 7506 for metal music?

[@TheNitpicker]

I've never heard the 7506 but from all heard this is one best for monitoring but not really for listening or enjoying music

[@mylesm4225]

Sorry. I replied from my youtube channel. But just wanted to say thank you. I have heard metal songs sounds better on flat sounding headphones. So thought to buy studio headphone. But anyway, will keep searching on internet.

[@TheNitpicker]

As someone listening mosly to metal I can't agree tagt flat is great, for so many tracks it feels way too thin. I definitely prefer slightly warm but definitely bright for sure. I also heard the Sony doesn't actually sound good. It became the standard for monitoring mostly for the comfort

[@mylesm4225]

Yes. Actually i also prefer warm. I dont know i just feel comfortable on that. I can listen hours and my ears dont feel hurt on warm sound. I agree on sony part too. I have cheap mdr xb55ap. Its on warmer side, feels comfortable but every song fells suppressed. Had some sony speakers too. Still have a basic 5.1 sony soundbar, it satisfies my need but definitely doesnt sound great. I have to buy sony cause there is no yamaha service center in my area and these yamaha brands are not famous in india. All i want is a headphone which is good and loud at producing guitar shredding noises.

[@Harolddespui]

As a new HD600 owner (i bought them a couple of days ago) i was very intruiged by your story in this review. :-) I simply had to try the mt5's before the return term of 14 days for the DH600's was over, so i grabbed the mt5's this morning at a local store overhere. To make the story short: i will not return the HD600's. :-) In my ears, the mt5's lack richness in sound and clarity especially in the mids. Also the bass is not as tight as the HD600. Also not a fan of the highs (cymbals) of the mt5. They can be razorblade sharp sometimes.

[@Alexed.w]

Are the mt5s better than the audio Technica m40x?

[@TheNitpicker]

I never got to test the m40

[@Alexed.w]

@@TheNitpicker ah, well thanks for the answer

[@headphonefanboy623-4]

Hmmm, apples and oranges, HD 600 sound their best mated with hi fi equipment, Yamahas are for studio use

[@Harolddespui]

You should have kept the 650's instead of the 600's, am i wright?

[@Harolddespui]

Damir Franc What i meant is that the 650's solve the problems you have with the 600. Sligtly more bass and less harsh treble. By the way, may i ask which amp you are using with the 600's?

[@zzezzobike]

With a good amp and balanced cable 600 is much more even and better in every way, that "more" bass on 650 makes mids recessed.

[@BobRooney290]

i found that those pads are washable since they are mesh. i didnt like the the others thats use fake leather which will start breaking apart and stick on your face.

[@savanaviolenta]

No MT7?

[@PhilHarrisTV]

Hmmm not too sure about this comparison. Closed back shouldn't be compared to open back.

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

Yes it should

[@PhilHarrisTV]

Maybe try the Brainwavz HM5 pads on the MT8?

[@adminmovie]

Philip Harris it will not work.. bass will become boomy and it will ruin the detailed signature..

[@babagonzaga]

But what about something like lambskin, which respects the original frequency of stock, but adds comfort and sound stage?

[@ryder3388]

If you would have slowed down this presentation would have been better. For myself, it was irritating.

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

I wish it was faster.

[@frankasor590]

Mt8 vs. Srh1840

[@piykum7]

Mt8 vs srh1540

[@oleadsr8186]

hd600 are a bit boring. The bass is -5db and they are almost thin. But i didnt notice any harsh. They are fine with treble. I dont feel pleasure listening vocals - its tasteless.