Sennheiser HD 800 S vs. HD 800 Quick Review

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[@Alex55555]

Amazing. In 5 minutes you have managed to cover way more information about the sound than Zeos does in 5 30-minutes videos combined!

[@RobertMartinezPhoto]

Yeah Zeos is like the weatherman. After they done with the forecast you have no idea what the weather was lol

[@metal571]

It's gon' rain... Amazon affiliate links

[@RobertMartinezPhoto]

@@metal571 LOL

[@jgillette98]

You could glean more useful information from a rock in 5 minutes than you can get from Zeos in the same amount of time.

[@gwapster13]

Exactly

[@adeelzero1445]

Holy moly! This is the exact reason I sent the HD800 S back since I didn't feel that much difference between the two except the S version being ever so slightly warmer. Like I said before, The only other thing I noticed was that the imaging was more precise on the original 800. I had to go back and forth 5 times to confirm it. So no way in bloody hell they are worth $600 more.

[@metal571]

I didn't spend a ton of time on the soundstage so that's pretty interesting, but at first impression it seemed very similar. I think the 800S being worth it is now common knowledge so I wanted to make sure I stressed that

[@halim5184]

Always looking forward for your review, do more review bro

[@Iceland1ify]

Pure Genius you are! Thank you for these EQ Settings they work just right for me and gives The 800S the kick they need in the low end and gone are the harsh high notes. I am driving them using the JDS LABS Element DAC AMP liking it so far.

[@metal571]

No idea what it looks like anymore, you can also try adjusting my HD 800 EQ with less 6k cut on my GitHub of the same name as the channel

[@horten229pilot]

Fantastic impressions as always, especially about the alleged bass distortion. Concerning the K1000: There is a reason that design hasn't caught on. In normal headphones, the earpads serve to reduce resonances that occur between the driver and the head. Since the K1000 doesn't have earpads, they employed a notch filter to counteract the resonance, but the swiveling option means that the resonance changes a lot depending on how you wear them. It's inherently a flawed design and also suffers from comfort issues.

[@jazzpianoman01]

Hey Metal 571 great review as always; I own the HD800 and to me the sound is spectacular albeit the treble can be pretty spiked; doesn’t hurt my ears but it’s definitely bright! Soundstage is superb the best I’ve heard on any dynamic headphone at least, can’t compare to electrostatic as I haven’t heard any electrostatics yet! The bass on the 800 will depend on the sound source and I’ve plugged mine into sine high end amps and the bass is pretty powerful! Haven’t hear the 800s but it the differences are subtle so I agree why spend on something that’s a small difference in sound, I’ll keep my original 800s!

[@intreppit]

Thank you very much for your review!!! My experiences are a little bit different in case of the bass. For me, the HD 800 S bass sounds slower and not as detailed as on the HD 800. The HD 800 has definitely more precised bass with listenable more kick for me. It sound harder, I would say. An other thing is the imaging. I think the imaging on the HD 800 S sounds more realistic and not as unrealistic big as on the HD 800. But with all other, I am with you =)

[@MESSENGER-OF-JESUS-CHRIST]

So happy you did this review :) great 👍🏼👍🏼I have both! Overall I prefer the HD800! They sound more epic, ethereal wide and elegant. The HD800S sounds a bit more forced. However with vocals and the right amp the HD800S are gorgeous because it gives a little more velvety warmth - but I find the HD800 cleaner. I ended up getting both 2nd hand in order to have both at 1 price and have double my experiences. I agree that if you already have HD800 get something else :) I agree the soundstage of both are exquisite

[@sebanambrus9265]

mate can you please compare hd800 and HD800S i want to purcahse one, i heard that soundstage is better on the old and more detailed and precise

[@AXELVISSERS]

They're fucking expensive like wtf

[@Juanixtec]

The best option I see, if you want the HD800s, then buy a used pair of 800's and then just put the SDR mod and Voila!

[@gwapster13]

Completely agree. The choice between these two is actually more difficult to make than between HD600 and HD650 back then, but is a similar dilemma with the newer model attempting to sound more "pleasing" while the original maybe more "spectacular" LOL.

[@poptart7747]

So happy I snagged the last HD800 at my local shop. Paired with a JDS Atom, Topping D10 and an EQ pushing them towards Harman, these cans are an absolute joy to listen to.

[@dnalekaw4699]

They are indeed phenomenal

[@bigyeetus2866]

Hows the comfort? Looking for something that sit on my head all day without issue, I couldn't handle the Audeze clamp and weight, I'm hoping I'll have no issues here

[@poptart7747]

@@bigyeetus2866 They're comfy, though they did take a bit of getting used to. The ear cups are enormous for a start - they sit more on your face than just around your ears, but you do get used to it, and if you hate headphones touching your ears then these are your best bet. The clamp is much lighter than say the HD650, and to begin with I was afraid I'd accidentally toss them off my head if I moved, however... 1) I keep them in the box whenever I'm not wearing them which might help them keep their shape, and 2) I actually swapped out the headband pad for the one from the HD650 (just by ordering a spare). The default one has too shallow a curve to really grab the top of my head, and I found the stand notch in the middle quite uncomfortable. You can take the default one off - it just unclips (you can find YT vids of people doing this). I then put an angled staple through each end of the 650 pad and threaded a cable tie through each. I then attached the pad to the headband using the ties and voila! Snug, grippy, adjustable, and very comfy (and it's not a destructive mod so you can just reattach the default pad if you ever need to).

[@diggilydog]

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[@FrankVila]

Man! your reviews are truly missed. Just discovered this channel some time ago but too late to enjoy your reviews "live". Hope you come back some day because sure a more sensible and "optimist" opinion on these things is needed.

[@metal571]

I've appeared a few times on the headphone show channel's live streams and mainly just use Twitter occasionally now, that's about it. There are no plans of any kind to return at this time, and my final video should explain it

[@gordonpearce]

Most reviwers forget to mention the HD800S comes with a balanced XLR cable. This makes up for a good portion of the price difference over the HD800 if you need a balanced cable (I did).

[@isocortex496]

Sennheiser fucked me with this, the xlr balanced cable is no longer included...

[@kafkaworkshere]

I love your videos - well, maybe not love. Sometimes, you say things we don't want to hear. You aren't shilling headphones or trying to entertain us. You're giving us a detailed analysis - warts and all - and I appreciate that.

[@metal571]

Really appreciate it, I've always tried to point out every flaw because every headphone has flaws. There are always two important things to separate: whether the product is overall good for its price, and whether I like it. They need not be always combined together

[@Little_Bitz]

I wonder if you are going to be able to finally review the iBasso SR1 Semi-Open Headphones and also try them with perforated/fenestrated and hybrid pads as well. This is my Christmas wish.

[@qwertmom]

What amps, preferably tube, do you recommend with the 800? Pls, I'm about to cry because I can't make a decision.

[@Chase-yg5no]

The only difference I noticed when I demoed both of them was the 800 being slightly wider but with also better imaging than the 800s, the 800s being slightly smoother and a bit more detailed in the treble. Nice to see these quick comparisons though! Helps out a lot to read / hear about what others have compared, like recently when I asked if the K612 was an upgrade to my AD700 (answer, apparently they trade blows and are in the same league).

[@metal571]

Not so sure about that, the 612 is right now the darling of diffuse field fans over even the 700 series AKGs at the moment as far as I know. Still haven't tried one yet

[@Chase-yg5no]

@@metal571 I do agree that the K612s seem more accurate, though apparently that's at the cost of some imaging (having a similar lack of a focal center image as the k702). I love the imaging and soundstage (especially forward depth) combo of the AD700, I personally can sacrifice some subbass extension for that.

[@mrpd2765]

Merry Christmas !

[@bratosin1]

I have the 660s do u Think the hd800 or hd800s is an upgrade overall ? Do u enjoy better the hd660s or the hd800/s ? I love my hd660s .they sound right to me , to my ears (i.m a heavy bass head but even that 660s is not for bass heads I still love the sound , they sound truly amazing ,very very natural and balanced 33% bass 33%mids 33%highs

[@DonHamlin]

For me the differences between the 800 and 800S made the difference between not quite being able to live with the 800 and the 800S consistently being my favorite headphone. Small but extremely important improvements. They got it just right for my ears.

[@JTCPingas]

Do you hear any difference in the soundstage? To me they sound pretty much the same in that regard.

[@sebanambrus9265]

Hi bro i cant decide between hd800s and hd800 i heard that old model got more detailed faster transients and better imaging and wider soundstage and better transparecy And bass is more correct. Is that true ?

[@j1nftw1n]

What are the headsets he's wearing in the video?

[@vicktoriousng7948]

Now there's HD820 and HDV820 in the market. Hope you would do some of those.

[@blood-pearl]

Is this Eq above based on your pref or also on the hd800s reach? thx

[@Shoaibexpert]

Which ones better? Arya or HD 800S ? Thanks

[@MFHRaptor]

If you want to know the difference in soundstage, you have to go back and forth between the two. It's apparent even in Zeos' sound demos of the two. HD800 : You can hear the object/instrument producing the sound with room reverb around it.. which would give the listener a realistic imaging. HD800S: Too much dampening makes sounds appear from nowhere.. as if there's a void between instruments! Like you're hovering in space.

[@bigyeetus2866]

I'll take "shitty audiophile description" for 500 Alex

[@rhodey2952]

So I have the hd800S and liked them out of the box. But I always wanted a little more bass but was never into EQing them. Tried the sonarworks tweak and it was ok but, to my ears yours is better.

[@metal571]

Lol yeah I targeted something like an LCD2 with a bit more bass. So if you like that kind of sound it's worth trying an Audeze

[@rhodey2952]

metal571 I had the LCD-X but too heavy for long listening sessions. Loved the sound tho. LCD-X sound with the hd600 frame would be killer! Haha maybe in the year 2040.

[@metal571]

Yeah for sure. They really need to ditch the old chassis for something much lighter

[@vainxler]

You also need an exceptionally powerfull amp for driving a K1000,so.. HD800 is fine(but picky)

[@Canoneosmiami]

Are the plastic or metal the 800s ?

[@nickc2124]

What amp/DAC combo are using to drive the 800’s. What do you recommend to a new audiophile just getting into the HD800’s?

[@x32i77]

Ye pls I would like to know that too

[@HukeIsMe]

sorry for being dumb, I'm curious how you go about EQ'ing your headphones? Is this something I could do permanently across any software I'm using for music?

[@metal571]

Made a video on this with EqualizerAPO

[@JoaoMartins-or6pq]

Hi metal, I want to upgrade from my ath m50x and if you or anyone could help it would be great. I have no external amp/dac though I want to buy one, didn't search a lot but main options are nfb-11 or r2r-11 (no schiit since I'm from Europe). Main ones are he400s(240€), hd600 (290€), dt 1990 pro(465€) and sundara(540€), but more suggestions are welcome. You say he400s are worse than hd600, Tyll from InnerFidelity says the opposite, some prefer the hd650 over the hd600, and the list of things that make picking a headphone difficult goes on. I don't want to go to 1990 pro and sundara price range but if it's really worth it I will think about it. Thanks

[@NightmareFactory830]

Depends on what kind of music you like. If you need more neutral headphones get the akg 550 mk3 off of the akg website. If you like v shape then get beredynamic 770 pro. Ive heard that sivga 006 blow the m50x out of the water apple being only 80 bucks, I have no idea what it sounds like. So look into that one too

[@4kgameplays863]

Hey man you re my favourite KZbinr keep up great work! Please tell me which one is better , beyerdinamic dt770 pro 80 ohm or custom pro , for gaming and music ,i love bass and the price is a same in Canada 240$

[@metal571]

If you don't mind a lot of treble with your bass then yeah you want the DT770. The custom one pro is a much warmer headphone with a tunable bass level, but the treble is much less forward and also not as good in resolution as the DT770

[@4kgameplays863]

metal571 thank you very much that is what im thinking too)) dt 770 is better sound,minus is non detachable cable but i dont care i need it for PC..thanks again you re great person! You wayy better than others on KZbin with 1M + subs

[@MTheoOA]

Hey, Metal571, can you help me? Please? I want a open back can, that's warm, with very body sounding. I Found your review about 599, but i have my doubts... This headphones can get a open sound and warm? Or is like that Sony closed-back headphones MDR? ''Have bass'' but was a strange ''punchy'' bass without warm body sounding, and very crispy, not relaxing... Almost oppressive, because you want freedom hearing things, but same when the soundstage was nice, the imaging and the sound was claustrophobic. What headphone is good to get something with present bass, warm, with body, but open? Thank you!

[@metal571]

Are you talking about the 7506 that I reviewed? Yeah the mids and highs are anything but relaxing on those. You are probably looking for an HD 6XX, but you'll also need an amp. If you don't have one, you can get the cheaper 58X.

[@MTheoOA]

@@metal571 No, no haha XD. Thanks for responding me. It's because i had a Sony MDR-1R, and i know a little the signature of Sony. I'ts REAALY not for me. Love too much progressive rock, jazz fusion, some IDM and i couldn't listen on my old can. Was superficial and ''thin'', when everyone was calling ''clear sounding'' to me was precise and painful. I cannot say exactly what is ''boomy'' and warm (bommy is a specific frequencies that sounds too loud in the summing? not about being just nice bass in low sheets frequencies that veiled others frequencies?), but i think you can understand my doubt. And you said 599 was boomy, but it's not warm as HD 58x? o.Õ Buddy, i have not much money and i need to be a little precise in this buy, so, the HD 58X is that warm and nice sounding? I haven't the amp, but i read that phone is 150 Ω. I do not listen to music loud, but it really works? Thanks, if yes, i'll buy them NOW! I love music so much, is my opportunity to get some of this machines in other countries. Cheers =D

[@metal571]

Yeah it'll run despite the impedance. Mdr 1r is a huge mixed bag, not a great headphone at all really with a weird sound

[@dealerovski82]

do they use the same cable? can I upgrade my hd800 with the S cable?

[@metal571]

Connectors on the headphone side are the same yes

[@NightmareFactory830]

Hey metal, I know this is off topic but I need help picking out a headphone. I was gonna get the akg 550 for mixing (need a closed back and this seemed to be the best bang for buck under 200) however I just found out about the 553 mk2 (550mk3) with a detached cable. I was told that they sound the exact same as the 553. Therfore sounding the same as the 550. But I also heard that it has more bass than the 550 (though someone said that's just how they sound before burn in, same as the 550) so I was wondering what your take is. Should I bite the bullet and risk the less flat headphones for the cable or play it safe by getting the older 550?

[@metal571]

Burn in is bs first of all. Second of all the original 550, especially early run units, were terrible. They finally finalized the sound towards the end of the run of the original AFAIK as an owner of one of the later 550s. Now I have a 553 Pro and I hears the 553 mk2 in a store. It's exactly the same sound as the 553 original and the later 550 units. So get the latest one you can afford

[@NightmareFactory830]

@@metal571 thank you so so much! I trust your word over just about everyone else because you seem to be very very picky with netural headphones (which for me, isnt a bad thing in the slightest) at this moment in time I can pick up the 553 mk 2 (550 mk3 is what it's called where I live) for 130 off of their website so this is very exciting. Would you still recommend this headphone for mixing at this price point or do you think I could do better?

[@metal571]

@@NightmareFactory830 it's one of the most accurate I've heard anywhere near that price so yes

[@NightmareFactory830]

@@metal571 you're a big big help, you're awesome. I hope you dont mind if I ask one more question, but what do you reccomend for open back? In the future I was thinking of either the BD 1990 or the shure 1840. Are those good headphones under the 500 price range for mixing? (I travel a lot so I cant do monitors)

[@horstschimanski6608]

hi metal571, which headphone do you recommend with super good soundstage for max. 500 $?

[@thebatmanwholaughs219]

Sennheiser HD 660 S is a great choice. Also Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro.

[@metal571]

Nowadays it's tougher, I'd pick the LCD1

[@krypto_9872]

In Canada, the HD800s is $2k and the HD800 is $3k. Is it better then to get the HD800s?

[@bigyeetus2866]

Good god yes if that's your only options

[@giladshaked131]

The sound more clear & the bass is more close & not leak & the treble is not like knife in your ears - more balance sound & clean because the membrane inside - more warm sound , with black dragon & cardas cable.

[@djtheob01]

The HD800-S has richer bass and the high frequencies are more accurate and crisp. But what about the HD820's?

[@metal571]

Lol take a look at the Rtings graph for that, it's just way off. I also talked about this with oratory1990 on a channel called the headphone show just a few days ago

[@jazzpianoman01]

Will you do a review on the Utopia?

[@metal571]

Send me yours

[@mcstulle2723]

Hey, which headphone amp /DAC would you recommend for the 800S?

[@gordonpearce]

I tried a lot of amps under $2k and went with the Oppo HA-1. Hard to get now, they are discontinued, but can still be had 2nd hand.

[@arrowknee7356]

I use a benchmark DAC1 for both dac and amp which is a fantastic choice imho.

[@alexandermyrthue1987]

I bought the HD800 back in 2014 and use them stock. To me the bass is as big as the artist has made it on the recordings. Try listen to the artist: Ginman/Jørgensen and the song: Get Me to the World and tell me if you need more bass ;-)

[@YTjuanchicod]

What do you think is the best for competitive gaming? (soundstage and imaging)

[@metal571]

560S is very good for that

[@d0nj03]

Ehh, those are still extremely expensive. What would you say comes closest in detail, dynamics and FR for half the price?

[@metal571]

The DT880 at 250 ohms or greater is a surprisingly affordable mini HD 800. I also like the K702 but that's a little bit different in the mids.

[@mcstulle2723]

DT 880 or better the DT 880 PRO? Which one is more similar to the 800s?

[@metal571]

Definitely don't get the Pro, the clamping force is annoying. Both pro and edition use the same drivers

[@mcstulle2723]

Thanks a lot. Still thinking about getting the 800s, as I really love it's phenomenal soundstage. Could you suggest an amp/DAC, that would be a great match?

[@kevinmlfc]

Sorry for being dumb but I noticed you skip filters. 5, 7, 8, 10 and 11. What do I enter here?

[@metal571]

Doesn't matter. That's just what got generated when I created the profile using Peace

[@Riseun]

I think the HD 800 might be my end game due to it's amazing sound stage. Although I heard the HD 800 paint thing does fall apart or chips I heard from reddit. The midrange I heard from your review is slightly recessed although I think that might be okay for me. Maybe the treble might not be an issue for me coming from DT 990 and having no issue with them? I'll have to travel like 2 hours just to try them unfortunately when I am ready to buy higher end headphones. :/

[@metal571]

Yeah treble is a lot less painful than the 990 because the main treble peak is lower in frequency. Mids are recessed around 1.5-2k but easily correctable with EQ, which is something I'd actually recommend adjusting since they're a bit off-timbre and dry as-is, even if you don't mind the treble and don't want to mess with that.

[@Riseun]

​@@metal571 Is it true you live in New Jersey? Do you know any hifi stores here where you can demo high end headphones? I tried a guitar center and lol... most of the headphones weren't even working and most of the models didn't interest me too much. Thanks for the response too. The HD 800 seems very promising.

[@metal571]

It's true, the guitar center in Cherry hill usually has all their stuff working but nothing there is really high end at all. Don't know of much else around here. See if you can go to Head-Fi CanJam NYC next February, that's where you'll be able to hear everything

[@liyuki2553]

The soundstage on the hd800s was very enjoyable imo and the reason why I almost didn't refund them. But the new cheaply stamped on brown inked serial number was so laughable, not like the engraved print of old hd800, hd800s. Looks very Chinese knockoff. Also no more cloth linings in the box. This just adds to the problems we already know about: fragile silver mesh cone, difficult to remove connectors, paint chipping off, overpriced ear pad replacements that you will eventually need. Still, I don't know of many bright headphones like the hd800 that aren't stax which have their own issues. So if this is a sound signature you want, you may be stuck with the hd800s. I just wish I knew the above info before I placed the order for mine, but at least I got a refund.

[@Riseun]

@@liyuki2553 I've heard of all of those. Some people say the HD 600 connections is hard to remove from the headphones too. I have seen the earpad replacements to be like... $75 on their website but I've seen other listings to earpads selling on $20-40 range but I have no idea how close to oem, or if they are OEM pads. I wonder if you could paint the HD 800 like zeos did with his HD 600 if that would help? I dunno x_x at least you got a refund.

[@alcurtis93]

Would these kick the crap out of my hd599?

[@alcurtis93]

@GROUP 935 not necessarily. It may only be a minor improvement as is often the case when we get to this monetary value. Paying vast sums for incremental improvements

[@lostremnant]

Hey what headphones under $200 do you recommend? For music listening on a phone

[@MTheoOA]

He (the metal) said me 58X. I wanted something with a full sounding headphone, and everything goes wrong on the buy, now, i'll wait more time until i can do the purchase. In this time, people recommend me the HE4XX for clarity and soundstage, because i said too that i hated closed-backs, and people said to me the HE4XX has a opener sound, better build, better feeling non-plastic. I am trying to talk with everyone i can, so... some guys said to me totally different things at the same time. Some said the 4xx has NO bass, other says has more than 6xx (whom have more or less equal the 58x). Some say it's more relaxing sound than the aggressive of Senns, others says it's dull. Some says need absolutely a amp. Others says don't change anything. I am just a confused guy writing observations about the discussions.

[@lostremnant]

@@MTheoOA Well this didn't help at all, but thanks

[@MTheoOA]

@@lostremnant Yeah, i was trying to show the confusing image to you. 1 week suffering here. At my first advice, i thought i know it all, but i just start to read more than 100 pages of Reedit, a lot of YT videos to choose the best. I know 99,999% will recommend to you the HD58X under 200. A mount of people i talked said was more fun than the 6** line and the detail was near to placebo imaginary thing. Some grain on trebles of 58x, but the overall sounding have more low bass than all and the mids are incredible. It's a very open, but close sounding headphone. And the thing: they don't need an amp. I hate to say, but i already had the MDR-1R. Everyone was praising them (299 euro in that period), but the sound was thin, the closed back was atrocious to the soundstage (that was good very artificially). So, i have experimented others closed-back. Just don't buy that if you like any open or clear sounding. You need to tell what type of sounding you want and what type of music you listen to. Maybe the Senns cans can be a little ''flat'' too much to electronic music, or veiled

[@lostremnant]

@@MTheoOA But I don't want open back headphones. Also I already got the M50x, I know "terrible choice", but hey they were on sale and to the average consumer they'll be good. Thanks for trying to help me out though.

[@MTheoOA]

@@lostremnant Oh, but i think i'ts a good choice for a closed!

[@youtubeishere3997]

This guy is the guru of headphones man. How do u get to test all of them? Since they do cost alot of money.

[@metal571]

Viewers are generous, and also companies send me loaner units that I return after review as well

[@bobcoco6047]

I can get the HD800 for 750€ , which I think is a great price, yet it's still a lot for my budget (think I could survive though ^^), & I don't have the proper environment, i.e. Balanced Amp + DAC (I only rock a DF Red) + high end files (I mainly use Spotify)... Can't say whether it's enough of an opportunity, to jump on it... :/

[@bobcoco6047]

I have a 1000 budget approx, I plan to buy: - DAC : Khadas Sound Board (most likely)/ Schitt Modi 3 / SMSL SU-8 / EL DAC / Gheshalli Lab - Amp: JDS Lab Atom / AAA THX 789 (later, too $$$ for now) So aside of that, I'm wondering whether this is adequate, especially the Atom, which is not balanced (I read the 800 runs better balanced)..

[@Layput]

I have the HD 800, which I bought 7 years ago (OMG. That was a long time ago) from moon-audio. I only got to use it like 25 times. I paired it with Woo Audio Fireflies tube amp. The sound is amazing. The only problem is that the HD 800 is so clear, which can be unforgiving to unrefined copies. Also, it is very bright. I like bright sound and pronounced sibilance, but I get tired of it after sometime, like there's overstimulation. Due to lengthy work hours, cumbersome to set up (Fireflies being very heavy glass and those cubes take a lot of real estate on my table), waning interest in music, and pure laziness to clean off dust, I have not used my HD800 for the past 4 years. It's still there in the box. The only reason why I stumbled upon this video is that I recently learned that they came up with HD 800S and I wanted to know how it sounds compared to HD 800. Based on this video, and from the comments below, it seems like I am not missing anything.

[@metal571]

Indeed it is very close. In fact I agree with Jude's more recent THD measurements showing the bass is more similar than Tyll's graphs showed

[@bigyeetus2866]

4:30 were you saying that the 800S has less treble resolution while having less grain at 6khz or were you trying to say that the 800S has more treble resolution due to less grain at 6khz?

[@metal571]

More resolution at 6k specifically because less ringing there

[@bigyeetus2866]

@@metal571 thx

[@aeonremnant]

Got these for $1,600 AUD new, so worth it.

[@fuffy442]

HD800 or DT1990 pro?

[@sverek]

DT1990 for more fun. HD800 for more precision and soundstage.

[@metal571]

I always go for the 800 on that. The 1990 never really struck me as all that detailed in the treble compared to even the 880, let alone the 800, so...

[@fuffy442]

@@metal571 Gracias. I'm still looking for a headphone which will give me the sound that my Etymotic ER4s do. It's hard on a restricted budget. :-)

[@RobertMartinezPhoto]

Let me know how I can dm you.

[@pestokong6228]

Can you please review the m40x?

[@georget10i]

Dude, a bit off topic, but are you planning to review Philips Fidelio X2 anytime soon?

[@Aggrofool]

Feel free to donate him an X2 for review

[@RobertMartinezPhoto]

Please review also low end headphones. Or revisit them

[@metal571]

I talked about the CAL recently, which is one of the best. 4XX and SRH840 are coming soon as well which are much more affordable.

[@RobertMartinezPhoto]

@@metal571 Sweet! I returned my HE4XX, after light use they ended up with a bass rattle on one cup. For now using my HD600 and Superlux Evos etc lol

[@RobertMartinezPhoto]

I made a video of it but haven't uploaded it LoL

[@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING]

The only thing that keeps me away from the sennheiser hd800 is How easily they damage

[@KazeSword]

I have an HD 800 and it's so detailed its crazy, but it kind of frustrates me that they aren't really good at imaging in video games. Everything sounds spacious and detailed, but sound is so diffused making it kind of hard to pinpoint where specific sounds are coming from.

[@zblus]

Mysphere is still in production :P sooooo... Hd800 not largest soundstage

[@metal571]

Is that actually out now? Hadn't kept up with it

[@liyuki2553]

That headphone looks insanely cool and modern. Im just worried about the copper connection to the sliding rail on the headband will either wear out easy or add a easy place for dust to accumulate on and cause distortions. I may be being rediculous. Still, a very tempting headphone.

[@shadowpapito]

I think I'm one of the only ones that love the 800 becuase they aren't sibliant to me and they're totally unnatural in a spectacular Special way!! The 800s is crazy sibliant and totally unnatural in the worst way possible!!

[@bebisibeb]

this is why i dislike sennheiser headphones except the hd600

[@josesantiagoortiz5341]

Good review but I stand with the AKG bro.

[@metal571]

Widest soundstage only of stuff still in production, I don't doubt the 1000 is larger lol

[@josesantiagoortiz5341]

@@metal571 I know bro,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but still.

[@computerex]

Typical audiophile reviewer. As soon as he said he owns the 800 I knew how the rest of the video was going to go.

[@QuartBernstein311]

Plenty of people in the comments agree with him, me included. I modded the HD800 with the SBF mod, and when I purchased the HD800s, I preferred the former. If the HD800s tried to sound more like an HD650, it failed to add anything without taking away what is special in the HD800.

[@rigixup9398]

Beats are better than these

[@2130asics]

rigixu water is dry