Blue Archive Kaiten Torment 39.05m Outdoor

[@owen-tj3yl]

Hina complained about not being meta anywhere and so nexon had to ruin an entire difficulty for her sake😂😂. Mika and S.Hosh didn't do this.

[@senovit]

S.Hosh kind of did, the first Hiero insane was a multiteam affair but immediately became a bunch of 1 team runs once she came out. Mika mostly didn't but I think that's more because of release schedule, she came out in between Insane and Torment but a lot of yellow insane were trivialized because of her and we saw yellow Torments designed around her instead. Maybe we'll be seeing a new difficulty soon!

[@keijoooo0000]

​@@senovitI hope they call it futile mode (considering the game's difficulty naming is unique in higher levels like extreme, insane and torment) and now that they added the new t9 equipment, and the t9 hat has accuracy buff, insanely good for mika

[@senovit]

@@keijoooo0000T9 hat doesn't have accuracy, but yes I hope the new difficulty comes soon.

[@orpheusthepoet3149]

​​@@senovit Based on what it looks like I'm expecting a final difficulty that is based on lvl 100 units, tier 10 equipment, 50 affection, max breakthrough, three plus skills, and 5 star weapons. This likely will also extend to a new set of floors for Set. I'm guessing BA doesn't want to release it too soon as once they do that will be it, that is the difficulty ceiling. There is only so much stronger the units already released can get and I imagine they don't want to set a ceiling and then crush it too soon with the next fest unit or the one after that. For example I'm imagining Ayame welding the proof of presidency for the sonic fest student in a year or two once more of volume 5 is released. She would be busted and given that there are only so much more levels/equipment available getting the new difficulty might be the moment when true power creep kicks in and some students become actually irrelevant.

[@killuazoldyck5468]

How much utility do you want? Hina dress : yes

[@tonikinTV]

what utility does hina provide other than dmg my guy?

[@aoruakasa7554]

@@tonikinTV anti taunt

[@senovit]

damage is the best utility

[@butteredsalmonella]

The absolute state of Raids: Red Raids: Clear Torment or SUFFER Yellow Raids: Okeh! XDXDXD Blue Raids: -still absolute garbage- Uheeeee~~ (you have to git gud in Torment as well)

[@keijoooo0000]

Dress Hina's hyperbuffed ex skill is insane, you have like attribute effectiveness buff from Hoshino, damage increase buff from Himari, skill cost and crit dmg buff from Fuuka NY with her three shots that has 2500+% damage in total and is like Haruna's ex skill which also does collateral damage, she's insanely overpowered.

[@sagiridesu7230]

I calculated it in the past... let's see... 100% + 40% Atk/explosive buff by S.Hoshino 103% Damage Increase by Himari 90%+ Crit Damage Increase by Ako And 130% explosive D.Hina's self buff.

[@EravielTachibana]

1:18, red and green ranger does not align to Hina's EX in any of my runs wtf?? And it's hard doing this on 4* Tsukuyo oof EDIT: Nvm, they align now lmao. I cleared using the same team but with 4 star Tsukuyo, replaced Marina with Neru cuz I don't have her, and used S. Shiroko instead of Nodoka cuz I also don't have her (Faster this way because of minus cost and crit on first 60 seconds) 😅The malding on Team 1 is too painful.

[@raiseddd]

Insane!!!

[@sabsajosubjeckt]

In the second team, wouldn't minori with effectiveness buff or someone with crit dmg buff be better? Maybe O. Nodoka is used to heal there sometimes?

[@senovit]

S.Shiroko would be the top choice, Minori would be good too but I don't own her. Nodoka wasn't used for her healing but just for being an attack sub while also being red winter for Cherino's cost regen.

[@DanielGrad12]

HoooooolY!

[@ToastyHaymaker]

Why did you wait to fire at 3:45?

[@senovit]

He has higher defence in green aura and I knew the aura color was changing soon.

[@Kusanaiiz]

Do S.hina must ue40 for this run to work or 3 star just fine cuz i dont have enough eligma to invest for her

[@senovit]

@@Kusanaiiz She should work, she's mostly for the stun and hitcount for shield break, not doing much damage in this comp anyway

[@aurevoir7170]

Is there an option for students to replace hare camp in phase 2?

[@senovit]

@@aurevoir7170 She has a very strong attack buff so no, can't really replace her and still get the same results. But you can try running another dps you can cycle quickly like Shiroko or Serika and just accept that you'll be slower than a C.Hare team.

[@aurevoir7170]

@@senovit what about Aru? in phase 2 borrow C.hare and aru to main DPS

[@zylenikchannel2386]

Can we replace Nodoka (Onsen) with Shigure (Onsen) in the 2nd team?

[@senovit]

@@zylenikchannel2386 In this case she's being used because she's Red Winter and an attack buff. S.Shiroko would be the best replacement, Minori is ok too, if you use O.Shigure you will lose a subskill buff because she has cdmg like Ako, though you at least get the cost regen from her being red winter.

[@zylenikchannel2386]

@@senovit

[@eterniacrystalia989]

Now that this is in global, I don't have Marina. I'm screwed.

[@butteredsalmonella]

You can replace her with any unit whose EX skill is rapid-fire attacking: Neru and BToki are the best ones.

[@eterniacrystalia989]

​@@butteredsalmonellaThey die very quick because I can't deal damage fast. Maybe I'll need to mald more on team 1 cuz boss still have 80 bars HP after that.

[@warhammer8230]

Broo, who should I use if I don't have NY Fuuka? I need to run double D. Hina team

[@senovit]

You'll just have to run her without cost reduction, try to take as many things as you can to buff her, there's Ako, Nagisa, Himari, S.Shizuko, maybe even S.Mashiro or just a stat stick like S.Ayane and hope you have enough damage.

[@warhammer8230]

@@senovit I could do that but that will mess up the Kaiten skill. Currently trying this strat with Ako Himari from a Japanese guy. So far it's still hard

[@sagiridesu7230]

Can I use Ui on the first team?

[@sagiridesu7230]

Also, what if I used S.Shiroko/Ako on the first team while I use Himari/D.Ako on the second team? S.Shizuko as well for the second team... I just need a clear, do you think it's possible?

[@senovit]

@@sagiridesu7230 You definitely can use Ui on the first team. Just remember Ui loses some effectiveness because she will only cut D.Hina's cost once as the second cost cut will be used by her 0 cost shot. However it will still effectively be giving you a free card rotation, speeding things up. The second swaps I'm not so sure about. You'll have to see if D.Ako can survive missile and sword combo, D.Hina can though so maybe she can too. Shizuko shield might actually be helpful for this too. I think you can definitely get a clear with two D.Hina teams even missing some buffs but I'm not sure what it would look like.

[@sagiridesu7230]

@@senovit I'm very glad that my idea is somehow approved. That's plenty, I'm gonna give it a lot of try :> Sucks that I don't have N.Y. Fuuka but it is what it is. If only D.Aru banner came a week early...she could certainly replace C.Hare. Oh right! If you have free time and if possible, can you please try doing a mock clear and uploading a video with my formation? 1st Team: D.Hina, Ui, S.Hoshi, Tsukuyo, S.Shiro & Ako 2nd Team: D.Hina & Ako, Serika, Marina, Himari & S.Shizuko. Thank you very much!

[@senovit]

@@sagiridesu7230 I can't mock clear with it because the raid isn't running, when it starts in global you'll have to try it yourself. Good luck though 👍

[@sagiridesu7230]

@@senovit I mean... nevermind, thank you.

[@dyasrivaldo]

Can i replace nodoka onsen with S shiroko?

[@senovit]

@@dyasrivaldo Yes, she's a much better pick for the slot I just didn't have her.

[@dyasrivaldo]

@@senovit oke thanks

[@hoangphungviet7588]

So 2nd team can we replace Hare camp with D.ako? Much thanks

[@senovit]

You can't because Ako and D.Ako buffs don't stack. Without C.Hare you would probably just want to run another dps there instead like B.Toki/Shiroko/Serika.

[@hoangphungviet7588]

@@senovit thank you.

[@raiseddd]

Tsukoyo 3⭐ should be fine?

[@senovit]

@@raiseddd Should be yeah

[@tsuyo-ishi]

Can I use Eimi to replace Tsukuyo in first team?

[@senovit]

@@tsuyo-ishi I'm not sure, she might have trouble surviving but you can try it. I've seen some people using Tsubaki too, though the attack from yellow needs to be dodged.

[@tsuyo-ishi]

@@senovit I just tried and it worked, need to UE50 my Eimi, use Neru and Minori to replace Marina and Minori, score is pretty much lower but still good enough to 2 teams

[@senovit]

@@tsuyo-ishi Nice job

[@aguspranata1098]

Can i change tsukuyo with tsubaki?

[@senovit]

@@aguspranata1098 I'm not sure, Tsukuyo contributes defence down so it'll be slower without her since you're primarily shooting red. There might also be survival issues but you can give it a try.

[@RaiskZX]

They should rename extreme, insane, torment to 'extremely easy, very easy, easy'. Current state of BA raids which is sad. There is no point in building other units, waste of resources when all you need only is Mika and Hina and their supports. Build S.Nonomi for hiero? nah Hina will 1 team it, build B.toki for shredding kaiten shield? nah Hina again will 1 team it with Nagisa. Build Mutsuki for kaiten? nah why bother. Mika is also broken but at least she didn't broke content so much that you can 1 team Binah f.e or Chesed. Even if I like Hina, I can't accept current state of the game, cause in my eyes this game is slowly becoming worse than it ever was. All for what? for some simps who want to see their beloved character be so OP that other characters can be thrown in the trash can?

[@senovit]

It's just the natural state of the game. When the next difficulty comes out we will go back to using multiple teams again. I was feeling the same way when every raid was just speed running insane, but torment release happened and saved it for me. Speedrun era can understandably be pretty bad if you're forced to copy homework and mald the dumbest rng for hours but let's hope this period doesn't last too long.

[@RaiskZX]

@@senovit Yeah, I get what you mean, since I remember pretty well I wrote something similar when Mika dropped, but torment came out and saved the game in my eyes. So if they do drop new difficulty and make other units viable again, game will be saved in my eyes for some time I guess. I feel really reallly bad about current state of things (I'm f2p player) worked 2years on all my units etc. to clear hardest raid mode, but what happened now? My friend from IRL started playing the game, during this fest he got all limiteds (Mika, Wakamo, Shoshi, S.Hanako) and he only started playing like 2-3 months ago and he is ALREADY clearing torment, cause he has Mika in his squad. So I feel like I wasted all the materials and time (2y) to get where he got in just 2 months and when Hina comes it will only make me question why do I even bother building all those characters anyway.

[@senovit]

@@RaiskZX Clearing torment 2-3 months after starting is actually insane. Even if he's a megawhale that's a lot of missing resources. And yeah it might feel like a waste to have old units built that you feel you won't use but one day you will definitely use them again. Torment Binah will probably still be crazy after all, though with t9 and level 90 maybe not...

[@RaiskZX]

@@senovit Well new players get all those guide missions, missions, hard mode pyros, relationships, tasks etc. so he literally used those to refresh for energy a lot to lvl up to max (double exp only helped him), bought selector for Ako and got all meta units during fes and already UE'd them - insane luck no questioning it since chances were extremely low to even get 1 aside from S.Hanako. As for materials you know how events work (they literally throw so much mats at us, you can craft them too from jfd, and buy them from raids - that's what he did since those eleph from raids and jfd aren't worthy at all). I need to chill too I guess, but lately game and devs show so much unfairness in my eyes (Hina got 2 limiteds and OP version, when my current fav Shiroko got 0 from 3 alts. Even made her OG version useless since kaiten torment needs 15 hits now to break the shield... so unfair. Hope at least they will make Kuroko a limited and on even field with Hina etc.). Anyway, thanks for listening to my little rant

[@Cutehiniature]

​@@RaiskZX If Shiroko Terror ever to become a banner they will make her limited and meta for sure, they literally have to.