Sensah Groupset Hierarchy VS Shimano

[@belverticale]

The most recent versions of the Sensah shifters have metal internals (in comparison with the plastic of earlier iterations) and they shift very smoothly and seem very durable. They've also changed the rubber used for the hoods to something much more robust and Shimano-like. Also the Sensah shifters are compatible with Shimano derailleurs...so they make for a great cheap replacement if you bust your Shimano ones as Shimano shifters are the priciest part of their groupsets. I have Sensah Quantum shifters paired with Tiagra mechs 2 x 10) ...they work great with both front and rear Tiagra mechs...if anything I prefer the SRAM style single lever shifting to Shimano now I've got used to it.

[@virtouso47lol73]

But i think Sensah empire sti is not compatible with 105 rd and fd

[@belverticale]

@@virtouso47lol73 no you need Sensah Pro Team shifters for 11 speed 105 mechs.

[@virtouso47lol73]

@@belverticale but is the sti team pro is compatible with sensah component or just compatible with shimano since its a little different?

[@belverticale]

@@virtouso47lol73 I think only compatible with 105.

[@bikeman1x11]

@@virtouso47lol73 team pro is shimano compatible

[@mmh7980]

Anything that threatens to stop the big boys in the bike component industry from charging us disgustingly abusive prices is welcome. Hopefully they keep coming out with more products like this and keep getting better and better, at the moment my Sensah Reflex's work much better than the Shimano Claris that came on my bike. And the gears and "Sunshine" cassette work great too.

[@jm_sc]

On every market, yes

[@marcosrogerio7159]

Olá!!! Comprei cassete , câmbio traseiro e shifter do lado direito, tudo Sensah PHI e corrente Shimano CN 4601. Fiz um pedal de 40km e no retorno desse pedalada as marchas começaram a não indexar do cassete menor para o maior.Gostaria de saber se tem alguma regulagem fina a ser feita , já que é a primeira vez que o mecânico instala essa marca.

[@rosomak8244]

Personally I would recommend to use sensah levers and ltwoo branded derailleurs. The derailleurs from ltwoo are just better. Personally I run a 2x8 setup with reflex derailleurs and R5 shifters. It works perfect. Why do I still use 2x8 and not more gears? Well I love long distance rides (over 200-350km daily) and prefer the robustness of the 8 sprocket chain. I don't see the practical need for more than 16 gears.

[@dark9amer275]

are u riding a roadbike? can u give me the setup? pls i want to try one

[@Sledno1]

I like your content, keep it up!

[@TheJohnSmith1]

thanks man!

[@evgenfes4010]

Hello Friend! Can you tell me if sensah quantum 10 speed shifters are compatible with shimano GRX400 front and rear derailleurs? I know the tiagra 4700 duals are compatible with the GRX400. And sensah quantum is compatible with tiagra 4700 shifters.

[@Jeb-OGD]

Are they cross compatible? I have a tiagra 4700 rd and my shifter broke due to a fall, and Im a budget rn. Is sensah phi compatible with tiagra 4700?

[@fendyosman]

I've been using sensah empire for more than 1000km with various of road profile. Climbing...flat road...and still stand strong...really worth for money...end of the day...you choose...shimano sram sensah...

[@TheJohnSmith1]

I agree

[@SLOWVERT]

Where are you buying Shimano Claris and Sora groupsets for those prices?

[@chairmanmeow8388]

2020

[@takumifujiwara1991]

Hi I'm just curious if I can use sensah's 11-speed derailleurs on my tiagra 4700 levers. thanks

[@TheJohnSmith1]

i dont think so.

[@Fatbutnotflat]

sensah 11 speed is only sram road compatible.

[@takumifujiwara1991]

@@Fatbutnotflat oh so meaning it has different pulling ratio . tanks a lot cheers!!

[@tanvohung1441]

And what a bout L twoo r7?

[@aldrinclementina4297]

Great video man. Yes I enjoyed and laughed. I have build a backup bike with some old (but in good shape with new rubber covers) DA7800 I swapped from my other road bike. I replaced with Ultegra 6700. Seeing your videos. I think I might go for the Sensa / Sram Red shifters and swap that with the Ultegra 6700 and send the Ultegra 6700 to the backup bike. Or just go for the Sensa group set maybe the 2x10 and replace the DA 7800. The hidden or better said under - bar tape brake cables looks more modern, comparing with the DA 7800 with the cables crossing in front of the bike. Thanks for sharing

[@thewattbomber]

You should do a review on Sensah SRX Pro.

[@TheJohnSmith1]

never used it before

[@rhl2macwan]

Hi there love ur video but can you please make one on sram and champanolo too thanks

[@enriquemacaranasiii484]

Sensah empire version is good groupset? I see your vlog before. But give me update today.

[@jayb.6685]

Hey man, love your content. But would you consider changing from sora to empire an upgrade? Been contemplating on doing that since its cheap. But might as well stick with sora i think

[@TheJohnSmith1]

eh. Imo sora isnt that bad. Trickle down technology has made it pretty good

[@FiveMinuteVelo]

Yeh, make the jump, I did. Here is my review of the Ignite gear set and a Sora comparison. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3-UdGOLqKqGhNU.

[@rosomak8244]

It is definitively an upgrade.

[@danielhertercasagrande1686]

I have both Campa and Shimano bikes since many years with some 10’ooo km still working good- maybe Sensah can do it too maybe not. 1000km as a test is not enough

[@rosomak8244]

I did multiple times more on sensah. They still work perfectly and don't show any signs of wear. Even the hoods.

[@jm_sc]

Good video, means i should like it Or should i?

[@Duborne]

Currently putting SENSAH on my bike. So have a subscribe.

[@sybreeder86]

Sensah Team Pro hasn't been mentioned. Sensah Empire is not inter compatible with Shimano 105/Ultegra. Team Pro is compatible. Shifters are bit more expensive than Empire

[@AllanHundeboll]

Is team pro equal in quality with empire?

[@rigenmurakati9618]

What about quantum and teampro

[@TheJohnSmith1]

didn’t even know those existed lol

[@BlackJacketWasp]

Quantum is 10 speed but 4700 compatible (e.g. Tiagra 4700 RD is 11-speed aka new pull ratio) while Phi is the older road 10-speed pull ratio (also works on MTB 7,8,9 speed RD). I didn't believe it until I pair a Phi with Tourney TY300 6/7 speed rear derailleur. Works perfectly. Team Pro is 11-speed and compatible with Shimano 11-speed pull-ratio components (e.g. Tiagra 4700 RD or 105 7000 series, etc) or so they say. I will find out in a week's time.

[@harrymaccycling]

Bro this made me laugh, this video is a f*cking great 😭😂

[@Mavczers]

I bought senah phi and with an idea of changing components one by one onto eqivalent shimano. But I guess sensah phi is the least talked about groupset and I have no idea what to do with it :D

[@TheJohnSmith1]

they say that the Phi is compatible with the 4600 5600 and 6600

[@fandydiadline]

Lower tier here, I use Brifter Sensah Reflex with Claris for RD FD Crank and Sprocket.

[@Kayeosyt]

Hi I'm planning on doing this gear set too, did you have any problem and is the shifting good?

[@fandydiadline]

@@Kayeosyt I've been riding with a combination of Sensah and Shimano components for a while now, and I've noticed a few things I wanted to share. Overall, the maintenance intervals for the Sensah-Shimano combination seem to be a bit more frequent compared to using an all-Shimano groupset. This could be just a coincidence, but it's something I've observed. I've also noticed that the gear shifting can be a bit less smooth and precise with the Sensah-Shimano components compared to all-Shimano. There can be a slight delay in gear changes, or sometimes the gears might skip altogether, which is a sign that maintenance is needed. This difference in gear shifting became more apparent after I switched to a Shimano Sora groupset. They require less maintenance. With the Sensah-Shimano combination, I typically needed to visit my local bike shop for repairs every 30-45 days. However, with the all-Shimano groupset, I was surprised to find that I only needed to visit the shop every 3-5 months (Context: I'm using my bike for commuting and 50-70 km on weekends). According to my mechanic, there's a difference in the mechanical feel of Sensah and Shimano components. He says that Sensah components have a stiffer feel, while Shimano components have a smoother, more buttery feel. It's a subtle difference, but it can affect long-term comfort. If you're a beginner or looking to upgrade your bike gradually, a combination of Sensah and Shimano components isn't a bad choice. My mechanic himself uses this combination for his own bike, and he rides it on hilly commutes between cities. Sensah is not a bad option overall, but if you ever decide to upgrade to a full Shimano groupset, you'll definitely notice a difference in the riding experience. The choice between a Sensah-Shimano combination and all-Shimano ultimately comes down to personal preference and budget. If you're looking for the smoothest, most precise gear shifting and a softer mechanical feel, then Shimano is the way to go. However, if you're on a tight budget or willing to put up with a slightly less refined experience, then Sensah is a decent option.

[@rosomak8244]

The difference between the 2x9 and 2x8 groupset is one little notch more in the right hand shifter. Why do you wonder they are the same price in sensah? Sensa is just honest with pricing. Shimano is ridiculous.

[@immikemx]

Just adjust your expectations if you get Sensah, be aware that it might be cheap, almost disposable. The only one that might be worth having is the empire

[@rosomak8244]

This is definitively not true. They are robust and reliable. The work mechanically just fine. There is no rocket science involved when it comes to pull a wire line a well defined amount.

[@FiveMinuteVelo]

Yeh, make the jump, I did. Here is my review of the Ignite gear set and a Sora comparison. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3-UdGOLqKqGhNU.

[@AandA697]

Nah... Just comparing weight is not accurate. Of course things get lighter when you use inferior materials. Cheap plastic is just lighter. I still would prefer Shimano because you get quality for your money. That's a fact

[@rosomak8244]

No it isn't. SHIMANO is obviously artificially ranging the pricing depending on supposed market gauging. The group sets with less gears are heavier for no particular technical reason.

[@AgencyScum]

Good presentation...kill the silly music.

[@mikediazong]

I use sensah ignite. What i notice is that one day they shift ok then the next day they are bad. And having plastic components makes me lose confidence.

[@rosomak8244]

Check the cabling and cable housing.

[@menoahgunzel8146]

I am a bike mechanic 40 hrs per week. I tried a sensah empire group set. It shifted garbage to be honest. I bought a SRAM rival derailleur and shifter instead for 250usd. Still not super expensive. Shifts like a dream.

[@sanangelo7926]

Well slave labor does make things cheaper.

[@TheJohnSmith1]

doesn’t shimano and sram also have factories in china?

[@sanangelo7926]

@@TheJohnSmith1 They do have some there and they should not. You also have to remember who did the design work to partially explain the higher cost. You really think the Chinese copy did all their own engineering work and didn’t act like most Chinese companies and just rip off a design?

[@2ball434]

@@sanangelo7926 the people who made sensah were ex sram engineers afterall

[@goku445]

@@sanangelo7926 Who cares? Patents are just slowing society.

[@aaaaaa6583]

These type of carbon shifters and brake levers are very dangerous and should come with hazard warning. As the aluminium eats away at the carbon. The rider is breathing in microdeposits of dangerous carbon fibre particles. Stay away from carbon fibre for health & safety reasons

[@ddream777]

Sad video.