Can I Make Ancient Karate Work?

[@KARATEbyJesse]

It was an honor to share my Okinawan secrets with you Seth! 🙏 Your enthusiasm is only rivaled by your humility. Keep up the great work my friend! 🌟

[@SenseiSeth]

Thank you SIR! Hope Mike learned his lesson! 😂🙏

[@ponylu7978]

Okinawa? You mean the birthplace of Karate? 🤗

[@jswets5007]

When karate works great in a fight it usually doesn't look like karate, but it is. 😅

[@OneSlavBoi]

Wait did you finally get a new black belt nooo it looked so cool

[@jonnymuzzer]

Been learning Naihanchi in my karate classes the last few months - love to see it 😊

[@theaikidoka]

Karate wasn't invented by idiots, nor refined by idiots. Just because modern interpretations of the concepts and techniques have changed or become lost, doesn't mean they aren't there if you know what to look for. Serious respect to Jesse, Seth and people like Iain Abernethy for their study of the huge depth of Karate and their refusal to promote nonsense ideas just because they are commonly accepted. I know lots of Shotokan practitioners and point-fighting practitioners who are really surprised when I point out how many Aikido, Judo, Kendo and boxing methods are shared in their katas and Aikido movements - Karate has grappling and locks and strangles and slipping and feinting and parrying. These things are universal because they are derived from how people move their bodies and how to disrupt those movements. Very few martial arts are limited in scope, only limited in how much of the scope the student/teachers knows.

[@Motorata661]

I remember when i first started to do MMA after doing Kyokushin how much things from the Katas worked in sparring. My favorite its the steps that we did, in most martial arts when you want to change stances like from orthodox to southpaw you do it in in place but i found that just taking a step forward naturally changes your stance and lets you get closer, i have surprised people with that before You can do it backward, combined with a sidekick while retreating has gained me a lot of distance against agressive oppoennts

[@Kankudai69]

Very true. I have had great learning moments with Vince Morris Sensei. And, like you, I find a lot of applications of what I learned in kyukushinkai in my aikido practice.

[@96bmb]

Its just not effective for fighting as a whole. There probably are stuff that are good, but in general there are more effective styles.

[@kiarce3]

@@96bmba punch is a punch wdym

[@Philip-dy3ww]

Why bother to find out how it is effective , why not go learn what is effective

[@brotherhoodofsteel3090]

Sensei Seth is so underrated man. I'm surprised he's not at a milli yet. Enthusiastic about every Martial Art, and actually makes it work in sparring. Can't help but love the guy.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Seth Adams' lack of big success might be his less fantastic appearance and the fact he does no appear confident. As student of martial arts he is great example as he doesn't look down on anything, always strives to learn and never acts disrespectfully.

[@thejinn99]

@@vksasdgaming9472 No, I think fighting, self defense, and martial arts just isn't *that* main stream. Sports IS, especially here in America which is why I think MMA/UFC has gotten so big--its a sport. But martial arts and self defense continues to be kind of niche.

[@theprodigalson4003]

I also agree sensei seth is a milf

[@christiangauthier727]

​@@thejinn99Self-Defense is a pretty big industry, but those classes are not worth taking 99+% of the time because the Instructors teach all kinds of BS that will make people confident and get hurt when they actually try it out in real life and discover that it doesn't work. I'm talking about Classes like "Women's Self-Defense", you know, where they teach you to use your keys to make an improvised Knuckle Duster, to Pull Long Hair, Strike the Groin & mostly "Pain Compliance" "Techniques". Pain Compliance, as in getting your attacker to release his Hold, Break his Posture, Fall Down, etc., simply by making them hurt... Which has been proven time and time again to NOT work, mainly because not only the pain often doesn't even register in high adrenaline situations but it mostly just has the effect of pissing off the attacker... Believing that getting someone to release their deathgrip Chokehold by inflicting Pain by burying your "Hard Chin" into his Forearm's Bones will work is deluded. This is so sad, because it's a huge industry that, if the right people were to get involved, could get revolutionized. But at the same time, those "Self-Defense" Courses are usually taught over the Short-Term, as people are "Busy" and don't want to actually have to Work hard & Train to develop Skills, which is the main obstacle preventing the spread of Real Self-Defense Courses that would actually work. There's no way around it: to be able to apply Effective Self-Defense in Real Situations requires learning a whole Fighting System/FUNCTIONAL Martial Art, and needs to be Trained over an extensive amount of time so that not only the Techniques are properly understood and executed, practiced & Applied in real Pressure Testing Sparring, the Body getting conditioned & in better shape, but most importantly, so that in a Real Situation, when the Stress, Anxiety & Adrenaline kick in, you'll still be able to use the Skills & Techniques you've developed because they'll have become second nature to you, or put another way, you'll have properly reconditioned your natural Reflexes when getting attacked, REPLACING them with Acquired Reflexes, Instantaneous Physical Responses (the Techniques contingent on various types of Attacks).

[@MrWayne1701]

It's like having a fire extinguisher or a gun...You almost never need it, but if you DO, you need it BAD...

[@whatepher1996]

I never realized how big Jesse is. When he stood next to Seth they're almost as tall as each other. By the sheer size itself both of you are terrifying fighters plus with the skills.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

True that. Not enough people consider how much of a difference size makes

[@EgoCZ]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 What do you mean man, its the first thing people consider

[@whatepher1996]

@@EgoCZ true if both martial artist is equally skilled in all aspects. The battle would come down to who's physically stronger and bigger. Whoever said size doesn't matter obviously hasn't been in a fight before or even spar.

[@EgoCZ]

@@whatepher1996 What i mean is, when you walk into a club and see 2 meters tall 130 kg heavy bouncer, you are thinking: I dont wanna fight this guy

[@whatepher1996]

@@EgoCZ exactly I agree with you. It's instinct. Even I do practice martial arts. I am not gonna pick a fight with a guy twice my size.

[@Errzman]

The whole discussion with Mike about pace and discouraging the opponent is something I've been noticing in sparring with boxers. I started boxing a couple months ago and realized that most of my training partners aren't used to the "deadpan" stance/pace. I feel like it makes them uncomfortable and it pushes them to act when it isn't really advantageous to them. Awesome video!

[@edi9892]

I sparred against the polar opposite in a way, but the pacing was just as annoying. She jumped all over the place and chasing after her just exhausted me... The irregular and surprising attacks were the real problem though.

[@thunderkatz4219]

Crazy cuz I mix my karate stance and boxing stance to confuse people

[@grohlski8669]

usually the "deadpan" you refer to can be super hurtful to yourself because if you're just chilling judges don't like that, unless you're doing the best out boxing of all time and showing clear dominance rather than truancy

[@oba_reese1611]

Yup Floyd does it a lot he will put his hands down and walk towards them like he’s in slow motion then will pop a straight right as fast as he can it’s about looking unready when ur ready and looking ready when ur unready

[@bibekjung7404]

GoD ALMIGHTY KABIR 🙏😊

[@RealBillyGarcia]

I’ve been a practitioner of Shorin-Ryu Karate since I was 13. I’m 53 now. Thank you for this video. It makes its point without sounding preachy or condescending. It shows Karate’s value in a realistic light. 🥋😎

[@bigbywolf5197]

Can you explain in a shortened version of that type of Karate, please?

[@flamezombie1]

Ah, another Shorin-Ryu practitioner! I don't see many of us!

[@flamezombie1]

Ok, so it's an old Okinawan style of karate, which means high kicks are basically non-existent. If modern karate is maybe 60-40 punching to kicking, Shorin-ryu is the opposite and includes a lot more grappling techniques. Foot sweeps, single legs off of caught kicks, etc. We're also taught to kick with the toes (but don't in sparring obviously). Other than that, we used traditional training tools like the chi-ishi and makiwara. Hope that helps. @@bigbywolf5197

[@Juliangotknocked]

I just started Kyokoushin a few days ago and its pretty tiring

[@aaronjackson1493]

Ahh, Shorin-Ryu. One of the best karate styles ever. Thankfully it's never been watered down and lost it's link to combative reality. Me being a martial arts fan, my personal style would be Muay Boran, Yaw-Yan Judo, BJJ, Hapkido, Savate, Wing Chun, Escrima, Sambo, and some good ol' boxing. After I've trained hard in these, I'd love to try Northern Shaolin. ☕🥯💪🙏

[@obiwanquixote8423]

Weirdly, nothing brought more clarity to me about karate than studying judo. Judo, especially as the Japanese teach it, is highly detailed and precise. Spending hours on getting a twisting motion of the wrist correct gave me flashbacks to my karate days and all the little motions in various kata. And judo being a heavily sparring oriented art helped bridge the gap between the stuff you normally hear in karate about "how you train" and "this is actually how you use it." Because in judo those thousands of reps are being done so you can actually use it as taught.

[@dlowone]

That was extremely well said, I feel the exact same way, I understand more aspects of kata because of Judo. and Judo training in most schools includes a lot of sparring which helps you just learn the body mechanics of fighting. Judo made my karate better and helped me understand my karate.

[@jean4j_]

Studying a southern Kung Fu style can also help you understand many kata applications. Studying an Okinawan style is even better.

[@Cooleyo789]

AWASOME Job with with the editing in this video man! The cuts to the training and actually using em, definitely felt the Karate Kid vibes!

[@SenseiSeth]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@audise2]

@@SenseiSeth Definitely enjoyed the videography here. I haven't watched a video for a minute but this was top-notch! The slowed down clips with macklemore in the background were ace. Was also great seeing you adopt a slower pace and not utilising sport karate movement!

[@chriscordero-torres9095]

Such a great montage. giving me rocky vibes haha

[@joachim847]

Yeah, the editing was great. And the content 👍

[@PescaColorata]

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[@MC-qv8hy]

The way they fight, smiling at each other, you can feel the intensity, but not the hatred. It´s only two humans fighting, simply fighting, testing their limits, their inner selves, probing each other techniques. And above all else, living and seeing the way. Living their lifes to the core. The same beauty i see in dance, i see in martial arts. Have a good one guys, thanks for the video.

[@w8ngr]

This is a really well done video actually couldn’t ask for anything more and it’s class to watch you do actual karate

[@SenseiSeth]

🙏🙏🙏

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

"Actual Karate" it's funny how that implies that Seth has been doing something else for his whole life hahaha (i do believe that tho, i don't think that that weird kickboxing style can be called "Actual Karate")

[@w8ngr]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 well based on traditional Vs modern and since traditional comes before modern ofc it’s closer to what actual karate is 🤣 that’s like saying bjj is gjj and we all know the Gracie method is not the same as the Eddie bravo John donagher style so sorry to throw a wrench in your hair split lol great video like I said Seth lol 😂

[@Llucius1]

Karate Spirit !

[@PescaColorata]

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[@Rockalanche]

I love how genuinely enthusiastic Jesse is whenever someone is willing to learn. One of the reasons I can never get enough of watching his content. Just like Okinawan Karate, he is patient and honorable. Great video Seth as always. Love each one of your videos.

[@kurtcobainsr]

The editing on this video was awesome dude! Your story telling was great

[@Cnerf55]

Seth and jesse are such a good combo! Keep up the great work Seth!

[@PhinTheShoto]

Can we collectively agree that Seth and Jesse being Karate Bros is the best combo for any KZbin video?

[@Cnerf55]

100%

[@starshipchris4518]

I practiced Shorin-Ryu in Tadashi Yamashita's organization in the 90s and early 2000s, and I recognize the techniques Jesse is using, and their source in kata. We then trained them as sparring techniques. I didn't realize at the time they were considered somewhat lost. This was great!

[@Yama_no_Kitsune]

I love to see the first thing Jesse shows Seth is bunkai from Naihanchi. :) At my Karate school, which falls under Shorin Ryu, Naihanchi Kata are the cornerstone of the style, and the related Bunkai are very deep and varied that you always keep getting back to them. Thank you both for continuous great content :D

[@timothymarshall2365]

That was the first kata I remember learning. It's almost an entire system all on its own.

[@Yama_no_Kitsune]

@@timothymarshall2365 Yup. We start with Naihanchi Ichiban around 8th-7th Kyu (Light Blue/Yellow Belt) but keep on practicing and interpreting the movements well into 1st Dan and beyond :)

[@wesleyhollandjr111]

That was so impressive. I love whenever Jesse shows up randomly in another martial artist's video, he brings really good stuff.

[@davidwilhelm6150]

Sensei Seth and The Karate Nerd making karate cool again and I'm here for it. Also, this might be one of Seth's best videos. Entertaining, informative, engaging, even inspiring. Great stuff

[@Glorfindel_117]

Watching those spars, I honestly think you should fight like this all the time, or way more often. Maybe they weren't taking it as seriously as the video made it seem like you were, but you seemed to have quite good success during those rounds. I really enjoyed watching this

[@Savageronin506]

1😅

[@wagonwheel6657]

this was a cool video to watch, i wish there were more sparring videos like this showcasing that stuff

[@kuksoolwonninja]

It's crazy watching Jesse teach cause he's always super humble in all of his learning videos. Then he goes into teacher mode and you're like WHOA dude has serious skill.

[@Zoombie3]

How is there a perfectly organized upload schedule from the whole martial arts/self defense cinematic universe... like its unreal my guys.. Edit: Impressed with the production on this one Seth, good job!

[@operaanimelover369]

As somebody who has learned a lot from my research on the various karate styles such as Shotokan, Kyokushin, Goju-Ryu, Wado-Ryu, American Kenpo, Shito-Ryu, and Seidokaikan, I have come to appreciate how versatile and intriguing Karate is because of how practitioners can adapt themselves well in any situation should they be challenged by other combatants. Therefore, Karate is a martial art that should never be underestimated because of its applicability and sheer precision combined with torque, force, focus, and blinding power.

[@mrmushin1]

You forgot cobra kai bro

[@stickgarrote8582]

Cobra kai is the name of the dojo. They do a mix of a couple actual ryu and stage fighting. You’ve got to come with better burns if you’re in a karate nerd vid comment section. 😉

[@thunderkatz4219]

@@stickgarrote8582no it’s tang soo do

[@thunderkatz4219]

I do Okinawan kenpo and Kyokushin and they have conditioning and have takedowns

[@isaacyeon6334]

You know the video is going to be good when Sensei Seth, Jesse Enkamp, and Icy Mike are in one video (and it was). It was super informational and just amazing to watch Karate being used the way it was in this video, thank you for the upload

[@jbenoit1962]

Seth - This is consistently some of the best content on the internet. (Been following since the algorithm thought I'd be interested in your Sumo video. I was!) It's creative ideas, great execution, well researched, great guests, charismatic host with the authority of a lifetime of skills and knowledge development. There's a whole ass Macklemore song in the montage and that made me think about monetization. Do you have a Patreon? If you don't - You should start one. If the audience for your content is asking to give you money you're probably doing pretty well!

[@SenseiSeth]

I don’t have a patreon, I can’t really handle to put any more content out to be honest, I can barely keep up as it is 😂🙏 I appreciate your generosity though

[@rodrigogali4393]

I was depressed, and I have a very nice Karate teacher as Jessey, but I don’t really felt comfortable or even with the spirit or the power to keep going, as I said I was depressed, but with this video, I get motivated and so much change, I almost feel the power and the karate through my veins

[@KrakenNate]

Always a good time whenever these two collab

[@LIVEvil789]

I love the videos where you try and figure out the bunkai. I think it's actually very important to the art, too. As Jesse said, a lot of the knowledge is being lost, so trying to preserve it is an admirable endeavour. In other words, more of these videos, please! 🙏😄

[@SaftonYT]

Really enjoyed this video Seth! The production quality was awesome. I couldn't help but laugh at the vibe of the old-school dojo storm from a martial arts movie. The plucky hero -- trained in nature by his master in an ancient fighting style -- confronting the evil arch-villain but first having to fight through a horde of his students.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Following Jesse since years, I always found super-cool that he is doing with Karate what we basically do in HEMA, trying to figure out things from what we ended upr eceiving from the past. For us in general are images and texts, while for him it is mainly Katas. It's fun to rediscover things, but it's also quite hard to do, and errors are behind every corner. Btw, this video is freakin awesome, it has actually a bit the taste of a 80s Martial Arts movie with the revenge arch, the master, the bad guy (I love he's Mike XD) etc..

[@Mendrawza24]

I absolutely love this. I started with Karate, and though I practice other arts now, I've always held Karate in high regard, and its great to see it used in this way. Karate is deadly. Its self-defense. Its the way of the empty hand. Forever grateful for this complete martial art and for guys like you and Jesse keeping the reality and traditions alive. がんばって！OSS!

[@khalidbinwaleed5072]

What I love about sensei Seth is that experiences other cultures and martial arts and try’s to make it work. He’s very respectful

[@jordanrock3494]

When I learned shotokan, it was taught in tandem with judo(throws&ground),boxing, and aikido. So it was a full system and had a modified stance that was more tight like a boxer. Which made it easy to cross train and incorporate any other system. Shout out to Hidetaka Nishiyama, RIP King!

[@kevionrogers2605]

Sanshin, Tensho, Naihanchi (Tekki), Seisan (Hangetsu, Sanzhan) drilled with kakie & kumite is the foundation. In Goju Ryu we have a farming scale that is used as a wooden dummy to practice on; in Choy Li Fut (Cai Li Fo) they have a more complex version of it to rep techniques against. There are those who use repurposed Hung Gar or Wing Chun wooden dummies for the same purpose.

[@adamskawesker5102]

My Tang Soo Do instructor takes the time to explain what the moves of our forms are supposed to do as well. And he also teaches that block at 5:57. It's one of my favorites to use in sparring and the subsequent leg catch.

[@ambrosenjoroge-f4j]

These two guys can change karate to precious art in the world keep it wazito

[@thirdeyenz]

I like how in the beginning of the sparring you were thinking about the techniques and then trying to apply them, basically trying to force a technique, and then at the end you were using them based on what your opponent was doing. it was cool to see how quickly you adapted to the new ideas.

[@Raivon]

I dearly want to see Seth and Ranton do a collab now. The amount of chaotic energy would be masterful.

[@PhinTheShoto]

Seth and Jesse collabing is always a treat for the martial arts (especially Karate) community! I hope you guys collab more often! Learn from each other! Maybe Jesse gets to learn American Karate and Seth gets to learn Okinawan Karate 🥋

[@TimRHillard]

Sensei Seth, please do a video on Hapkido, thanks for all you do!

[@SenseiSeth]

Thank you Tim!!

[@TimRHillard]

@@SenseiSeth You bet Chief. You got robbed at the SD Championship🤔😁, that was all yours.

[@jonharker9028]

Now this was an eye-opener! Loved all the practical techniques and the discussion of what karate was and is, Jesse is always a fantastic guest and an enthusiast for history. It was cool seeing everyone humour you and then seeing your efforts produce those results! Plus, that sparring montage set to "Can't Hold Us" was so fluid, the investment in production really paid off! I've gotta thank you for having the enthusiasm to pull off this idea - all of it worked together from start to end!

[@BigDoom7]

Jesse teaching Seth is so cool. I feel like Seth is one of the most relatable martial artist KZbinrs, we can all relate to him in some way and he’s just a great guy.

[@andresperedo1275]

very nice editing, I enjoy a lot that you mixed the training lessons with the moment when you used those tecniques during sparring

[@Cmaxb9]

This is awesome, thank you Sensei Seth for this one as well as so many other videos. Your passion is S tier. Also can’t help but notice how much Naihanchi is referenced/used here, so cool

[@jarodbritnell6263]

TKD practitioner here, making the traditional martial arts community proud man, keep doing what you’re doing🥋🖤

[@dtair8338]

What a fantastic video - it's awesome to see honest fun collabs like these between Seth, Jesse and Mike. This is how martial arts should be taught and practiced!

[@BrechdanHam]

Love seeing these two together. I never get tired of it

[@Memorixt]

Now, this was the kind of (interpretation of) Karate (or Martial Arts in general) I’m really interested, and presented by my two preferred Karateka KZbinrs, exactly in the combination for which I am subscribed to both.👍🏻👏🙏😁

[@crismax90]

Being trained by my Karateka dad as well (4rd dan in Shotokan and 2nd in Kyokushin) I feel like he showed me exactly those kind of insights, but most Dojos I trained at did exactly what Jesse mentions, putting the cart before the horse. Until I started Kyokushin under Shihan Legree, where efficiency in combat is a priority especially since he learned under Oyama. love the videos as always ! OSU !

[@dwightdhansen]

These are taught from the beginning in the Isshin Ryu dojo I first trained at in 1993 & have been a student at since 2016. I've never really thought them to be anything special, I was just lucky that one of the USMC first generation students had their dojo in a small Iowa town a half hour from were I lived. Looking at YT videos from my own style a lot has been lost in translation from generation to generation.

[@jimbell242]

I enjoyed watching you guys spar. You showed respect for each other, like you were all friends. Great camera work, by the way! Thank you for your teaching videos!

[@mariebassett8914]

Sensei Seth and Icy Mike’s friendship just makes my heart happy ❤

[@_alexrocha]

Thank you! As a Kata competitor and karate lover. This video bring me sooo much joy. 😊😊😊

[@NaturalStateWingChun]

The techniques Jesse showed here are extremely similar to what I've learned in Wing Chun. It goes to show you how closely related WC and Okinawan Karate really are!

[@Leo_HuangAB]

Actually Jesse did a series of videos on the relationship between Karate and Chinese Kung Fu, he even went to China to see it himself. Also, to be more accurate Karate came from Fujian White Crane Fist or Fujian Baihe Quan

[@jacobharris954]

It is the same punch

[@ambulocetusnatans]

Wing Chun is written 咏春 , and the village where White Crane style comes from is written 永春, so there is almost cetrainly some connection there. Karate and Wing Chun are like cousins, not brothers.

[@JuanSalvoElEternauta]

I came here looking for this comment. I saw those similarities too (I practiced WC for some time).

[@Un1-ju2pq]

Silat as well

[@huskiefan8950]

Dude, Seth, I swear I've never seen you look more skilled, more confident and more dominant than right here, using the ancient techniques. Suck on that, Icy Mike! 😊 Eat it bro

[@soupormariobros]

So cool! There are similar techniques in HEMA that defend and attack at the same time, known as “master cuts.” The straight punch that cuts an inside angle and blocks your opponent’s punch looks a lot like a zornhau or schielhau (a sword cut that parries while also cutting). It gives you a geometric mechanical advantage. Awesome to know that existed in Japan too. Great video 😎

[@RemainHumble2024]

This has been a big help. I have been training for almost 10 years and I always knew that karate had a deeper meaning 😄. You just opened my eyes.

[@bloppahoppa]

You guys always seem to have so much fun when you get together, great to see :)

[@me82sjm]

Defensively with hands that's not meant to be a guard but maintains a defensive capability I would use a guard I learned in kempo called hasso gamae. Its backfoot heavy without the full blade and keeps the hands up casually covering the ribs with the elbow. Love the end editing with the jump between sparring and training

[@gutix18]

It was a very interesting video, watching how the techniques were applied at sparring. It showed at moments how the opponents were surprised by the use of these moves. It's always fun to see this kind of videos about the application of techniques in real sparring.

[@shirokku3279]

I love the mutual respect and appreciation Sensei Seth and his fellow martial artists have for one another's disciplines and in teaching each other new things.

[@paiwanhan]

Amazing video. Mike's reaction to you jamming his elbow is like Johnny Lawrence's reaction when Danny paralyzed his army by hitting the pressure point, only your's is real.

[@cross_key]

At 6:02 -- This is how we block in taekwondo for exactly this reason -- and because it 'chambers' the elbow for a follow-up strike, the lower hand for a punch from the waist, etc.

[@mr.einwood2384]

My opinion is that an effective way of self defense is dividing the fight in long and close range. Karate can be effective in long range due to its space control, objectively effective kicks, and its ways to enter advancing with an attack. And entering is exactly my focus point: there is a martial art, the Ba Ji Quan (my favorite along with Krav Maga, even if the latter is not considered a martial art), that attacks and defends in single motions, advancing against the opponent.

[@artistpenguin5890]

Statres from Muay Thai, then spent years studiying karate, now I'm learning Baji from videos (no Baji school in the vicinity, alas). I completely agree, although we have a very weird pedigree.

[@mr.einwood2384]

@@artistpenguin5890 Baji, as a lot of traditional wushu styles, is old and choreographed, definitely too over the top. Yet they had the correct ideas: a hard hitting, close range counter attack style. Basically, it should be revisited and incorporated in modern martial arts, extracting only the good parts, like shoulder hits, full body keep-away takles, elbow strikes (those really hurt!), useful body mechanics, advancing-blocking attacks, etc. DK Yoo, the famous Systema instructor, incorporated it in his style (though there are some controversies around him, but eh, whatever).

[@artistpenguin5890]

@mr.einwood2384 I think that old kung-fu forms contain highly stilyzed moves - in order for them to be emphasised and properly understood (and to look and feel sweet!). But the actual combat application is much more modest and needs to be trained with a partner. But I view Bajiquan as more of a form of standing wrestling with an empasis on long range (wrestling long-range, not striking) takedowns. It has a lot of takedowns and sweeps from afar, after catching a limb. I think the explosive shoulder, elbow and hip strikes are an auxiliary to this tactic because they teach the wrestler to close the distance and kinda-sorta strike. Strike heavily and from a distance that is very uncomfortable to most strikers.

[@mr.einwood2384]

@@artistpenguin5890 I've always had the impression that Baji focused more on precise and powerful hits on sensible parts than takedowns, but yes, I've had the pleasure to watch their "wrestling" too, which is, like I said before, body mechanics manipulations other than else. There are some interesting applications in that regard, but I firmly believe that Baji should be taught more with the "striking" concept in mind, rather than the wrestling one. Still, I respect your opinion, cause surely I don't often have the pleasure to talk about Baji with someone 😁

[@artistpenguin5890]

@mr.einwood2384 I think that the striking "branch" is valid as well. I heard similar debates around Okinawan karate, some of the kata applications are very similar. Even back then I've always gravitated more to the "dirty wrestling" side of things) Good luck on your journey!

[@daniyara8879]

Man I did kyokushin as a kid but now I only train BJJ. This video made me reconsider my dissatisfaction with karate. You changed my opinion and that's so amazing. You're a true Sensei. OS!

[@sailorjerry5133]

dude i love how youre not afraid to make fun of yourself or acknowledge your weaknesses, great job dude, this is what MA should be

[@Lyrisius]

Seth, I could tell that you were really in your element here. Moves that you haven't used before but damn man, you nailed them. This had that 80s vibe with the training in the beginning, and with the master by your side giving pointers. Loved it so much. Shout out to my fellow Swede Jesse!

[@MatthewSedgley]

Did not want this one to end, Jesse and Seth are the best at making g martial arts videos and when they come together it's like Christmas in summer

[@NotSoGentleJester]

Outstanding Video man! The hyper defensive style impressed me the most especially where you talked it down while delivering mad blows. That could be a style of its own and is definitly worth to explore.

[@robertoliver2651]

When you sparred and chose to stay in ready stance was extremely pure, like Mr Miyagi pure 'karate for defense.' It was super cool to see you two make a video to this effect.

[@maxiebojangles5823]

I am a life long judoka jiu jitsu an a few years boxing (in my 40s) an this is just a another great example of how Karate works quite well actually in many areas of self defense. On a side note i am a member of law enforcement an i have personally witnessed a 50 + yr old man use a three step Karate combination which ended with a kick to completely defuse not one but two looters during rioting to defend his small store. After speaking to the gentleman it was interesting learning he has simply practiced Karate (Japanese) his entire life since childhood an nothing else. Now if i have seen this myself than it has happened thousands of times all over the world in real life as well. Thank you for the video Sensei Seth . You have some of the best content on here !

[@ozone20rulez]

Jesse wins most Miyagi karate practitioner. This was literally like watching Karate Kid. My favourite part was when Seth's style was described as "Nothing, nothing, then BLINDS ME"

[@BreedersSyndicate]

this really did blow my mind. I remember hating learning katas because we never had any context to the movements of what about them we were being judged on. Also, it took years between each and we were to figure it out on our own by watching others. That’s a really bad version of telephone. I really appreciate this video ❤

[@rcc8347]

17:08 karate requires patience. It doesn’t teach you how to fight overnight like boxing, kick-boxing or Muay Thai. It is very complex and takes time to learn

[@tankthefrank4650]

You should work with some of the Kaju-kenbo folks out on the west coast. It was founded as a way of using traditional Karate on the street. I have had the privilege of training with some of them and it’s exactly like what you and Jesse San are proving here. 👍🇺🇸🇵🇭

[@markmarasigan5787]

Great video guy's! Big fan of the both of you! Every time I watch one of Sensei Jesse's vid's I alway's think about my Sensei when I was younger back in the 90's.. I remember complaining because his student's, including myself took longer for us to advance in rank's/belt while my other friend's became Blackbelt's in a shorter amount of time in their Dojo. As I got older I began to understand more as to "why" he taught us the way he did, i also remember some day's we'll practice with shoe's on and some with out.. So we'll get used to kicking, moving, etc., incase we may have to defend ourselves while being outside.

[@matsug5704]

Cheers to all my fellow Karate practicioners watching this!! Naihanchi is one of the most dificult katas, you need to keep a correct stance in the lower position, maintance balance AND do the moves correctly.

[@VincentJascha]

This got so many more of a Karate feeling and Input about what it is, than many many other videos in the Internet. I struggle with getting back into Karate practice after moving to a new City and they don't have my till now learned Karate style (which is mainly a Problem because I'm practicing for Shodan), but this video made me wanna start right now back into the Game. Thank you. 💪

[@anorton1409]

Great video. Nice to see technical applications of traditional forms (naihanchi / Tekki) in mucked up way, in sparring. Really fun.

[@prinnydadnope5768]

In shaolin and wing chun, there is a similar logic to "blocking and attacking should be the same movement" than in the earliest part of the video : - Around 2:50, you can also hit the arm/leg muscle of the attacker with the side of your hand to break all muscular tension. - Around 4:45, you can also just do the second hit, either in the knuckle but more often on the leg muscle : while breaking the muscular tension there, you break the balance that give the other leg its strength.

[@SoonerStateProspector]

I remember on Human Weapon around 15 years ago the Karate episode. Kyūsho - the vital points. A palm strike to the heart means you're gonna have a bad time. Keep rockin, Seth!

[@hardydownunder]

what a great Video, I love it when Jesse goes for his famous quote, everytime someone says Okinawa he jumps in for ''the birthplace of Karate'' 🤗😄

[@kevinsargent]

You guys should work together more often. Loved this.

[@MrLogic204]

I love all you guys. You all together is like the avengers of the youtub fighting world. Keep bringing the love and fun.

[@Ninja0608]

Omg him actually punching you at 2:31 totally threw me off 😂 Great stuff. Very informative and entertaining as always.

[@AdudenamedVince]

Really good stuff, love seeing the traditional techniques still working! No reason why something that worked in the past couldn't work now, it is also so true that a proper self defense style should be effective from a neutral-looking stance. I'm definitely going to have to try that kick-blocking technique that Jesse showed you, lots of good stuff in this video!

[@SL4PSH0CK]

love how you guys are just having fun and learnign by the end

[@christopherpadilla715]

Sensei Seth! Great content, the depth you go in martial arts is very humbling!

[@aura-pprenti2301]

Definitely loved this video. You guys make me see karate as nobody else can do. Big thanks

[@overthebill1]

I just started following you, Jesse and mike a few weeks ago. I and no idea there was mainstream KZbin fight channels like this that were entertaining and educational. Love how you guys are all competitive, but still having fun. Awesome stuff!

[@danlewis7707]

The most interesting takeaways from the sparring, for me: As many others pointed out, the broken rhythm worked very well. Developing that and furthering that principal has great promise. The thumb strikes from the clench and the intercept and strike as well as the roundhouse and body blocks for kicks are both excellent. I have seen others recommend these blocks. As with the previous point I do think that capitalizing on the opportunities that these techniques open up, when successful, will mean developing follow ups that are more focused on in fighting which Sensei Seth isn't used to doing so this will require adjustment. The toe kick thing is silly. Also drop your guard on the outside to lure your opponent in but be aware, when you use live bait to attract the fish you aren't going get it back and if they do bite you had better be ready to reel them in. Fishing metaphors to help communicate my many opinions about martial arts. Yet I no nothing about fishing. Or martial arts! Lol. Great video guys. Thank you!

[@breebrat56]

I know Nahanchi Cho Dan, Geki Sai Dai Ich, Saifa, Bassai, the 5 basic Tang Soo Do Forms, & the first basic form Ki Cho Pyung. Plus 2 Bo Forms/Katas. 4 + year’s training & in year 2 of 4 for black belt testing training prep. My school is Classified as Tang Soo Do, but when your master has multiple degrees in both Tang Soo Do & Okinawa Karate training, you get taught both! 😊❤ Love learning how the are different yet similar & complement each other. I still sometimes feel like an imposter when I see how far I’ve come & understand way more than my first year of classes! 😅 It feels good and surreal. I’m loving how much their is to learn in the pre black belt testing prep stages of training I’m in! I’m starting learning how to handle Sai and hopefully some Sai Kata soon. Congrats if you read this very long comment! Would love to hear how your training is going, how long you have been training, and some of the skills + Katas you know. ❤🥋

[@305CID81]

I love how all the martial arts channels I watch are making videos together! You need to bring Ian Abernethy in on these and the Martial Arts Multiverse will be complete! Lol

[@lawrenceprunty6132]

Haha. I love you music coming in during the sparring. Freaking hilarious and awesome!! Great job applying what Jesse was demonstrating Sensei Seth.

[@eriklindkvist7247]

Thank you for a great video! Love Jesse! Looking forward to more collaborations! OSU!

[@joe_krogan]

Bro Seth was lookin low key good in sparring. Real good at misdirection and catching his opponent off guard. Using mostly defense and then whipping his opponent when they leave themself open. Kudos brother.

[@seanbrewer1232]

If I ever had the money, I would want to meet with my favorite martial arts KZbinrs for one day each for a lesson. A day with Seth, a day with wonder boy, a day with the karate nerd, a day with Mike...

[@christiangauthier727]

I have really deeply appreciated the Lessons in this Video, and I personally would LOVE to see A LOT MORE OF THIS, as, just as it was a huge Revelation for Sensei Seth, learning how the tons of Techniques we learned and practiced in Katas are meant to be Applied FUNCTIONALLY is the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF Karate! My Sensei was also someone who visited Japan yearly and in addition to teaching us the "Traditional" aspects of our Karate, his Philosophy was (I mean... it SHOULD go without saying) that Karate had to be FUNCTIONAL, Techniques had to be Adapted to each person's Body, could be Modified from the useless "Modern-Traditional" way they were often taught so that they became effective both in the Point System of Sparring and especially in Real Life Situations... He was keen on MMA at a time before it became well known, and he always came in with new things, new combos, ideas, concepts we explored and tested (with us Black Belts. He didn't do this with less advanced & experienced Students to avoid confusion as they needed to first Master the Basics). I miss my Sensei so much... He was recruited by the Canadian Olympic Karate Team and in 2010 he had a Stroke that left him unable to continue practicing Karate as he used to. He still does a bit, but he had to stop Teaching and Training on a Professional Level. He was lucky in a way, because during his Karate Career, he kept Studying and got his PHD in Microbiology, so he had a great Career to "fall back" to! I should track him down, go see him at one of his Conferences & grab a beer with him & Catch Up.

[@Jerjitsu87]

Dude you earned a sub! I love how you put your art and skill up against another style! Props brother OSU

[@IsaacLausell]

I love seeing you, Jesse and Mike together doing videos together. I really enjoyed how you applied Naihanchi. I agree with Jesse as well. If the purpose of kata was to document a fighting style then the style and its techniques came before the kata.

[@swampmusicinfo]

Great , this channel deserves more subscribers

[@classmst89]

Gotta respect the boxing coach, i liked how he was talking about "if you discourage me you win". Thats a huge factor

[@IoanSaid]

best karate video I've ever seen! Jesse is really interesting! Great the see you use the techniques and show how they work too!