Does TenZ prefer Phantom or Vandal?

[@snowhitez681]

Everybody gangsta till 140

[@gtALIEN]

​@Chawnsee ;} 150

[@Anddts]

That hurts right there

[@xeno_vne]

lmao 240

[@justafrogwearingasuit9139]

That's because you're using phantom to peek. Change your playstyle when you're using phantom. Stop using it to peek long angles and whine about 140 or 124. Plus, peeking everything only exist in low rank, so technically in higher rank you'd want to use phantom because you fight close range fights rather than long range fights.

[@princeali12345]

@@justafrogwearingasuit9139 tf you mean peeking only exists in low elo???. ur probably silver, you don't even know what ur talking about. not hard to kill with a phantom long range just get a dink and a body shot.

[@thedeft9796]

phantom or vandal? Tenz : " kyedae "

[@ishaangokaraju4846]

Ong

[@agent_001_classic]

Ong

[@Sed1o1]

Kyadae or league of legends? TenZ: "VALORANT"

[@user-xe5wk5vi7y]

Ong

[@Ve3io]

Ong

[@asm8048]

I use phantom or vandal depending on the skins on the ground

[@Inferdesu]

Ngl vandals have better skins overall

[@arthu7022]

​​@@Inferdesu but the singularity phantom tho

[@adi4999.]

​@@arthu7022 the worst one*

[@Spicyyy832]

me, right there

[@Spicyyy832]

@@arthu7022 I can't hit a single bullet wih that skin. It is beautiful tho

[@Loomery]

“Phantom or vandal” Jett main:”Op”

[@StopLikeBeggars69]

And the Jett misses

[@so_h_am]

​@@Kiru-bh8lnNow that's a good reason to nerf chamber.

[@bludinparis]

Nah nah nerf skye 💀 ​@so_h_am

[@babyj7195]

he means when people push u have higher chance of randomly dinking ppl 🥴

[@kairollz1371]

I love when ppl push!

[@apsychedelic321]

This is TenZ nothing is left to random . He is litteraly widely regarded as the best aim in val

[@pianissimo7121]

​@@apsychedelic321 you can't aim when there is tons of util useage. That is the point tenz was making. Valo is not a aim game, so phantom has its place

[@solar999]

@@pianissimo7121 techcnically wouldnt vandal be better for “random dinks” because it has a more random spray spread… i mean i get ur point but phantom just isnt random.. yk?

[@agighinuew5885]

@@solar999 phantom has no trace. So its more reliable in chaos situation.

[@bakugo6236]

Sova- We believe in Odin supremacy*

[@kEyEs__]

fax

[@isaacguo5472]

Fade as well

[@sevendoubleodex]

cypher has snatched the odin role sorry

[@user-ug2sy8is7h]

Lemme tell u I THE AMOUNT OF GAMES I LOST BECAUSE OF THE GOD DAMN ODIN

[@njnexgen]

​@Duolingo mf duolingo just can't leave anyone for once

[@chibipuppy77]

“In theory phantom is better, but I’m better so I use vandal”

[@braindeadboy557]

Respectable

[@lyo6200]

W

[@1-Yumi.]

"In theory"

[@rrchy.]

yep, on paper the phantom is better, but vandal too cold 🥶🥶🥶

[@mikaeloreilosantayana7663]

@@1-Yumi. IN GAMEEEEE THEORYYY!!!! THANKS FOR WATCHING

[@Lazidiz]

As a phantom user i feel powerfull and respected

[@danielwong4091]

same bro respect for you🫡

[@ashish__-]

140

[@Inferdesu]

125 cope

[@lyo6200]

140

[@logic738]

​@@ashish__- 😂

[@ulyssescasio9939]

Both gun have their strength. If you peaking a long distance, you want a Vandal in your hand. If you want to spam bullets in the smoke, you want a Phantom. Vandal will give away your position.

[@ilikerocks2280]

Vandal has bigger rng than the phantom so it really depends what you mean by "long distance", and how much time is left in a round, and how much health enemy may have, plus other situations such as crossfires make the Phantom more reliable in teamworking situations. For such reasons it makes the vandal better for solo queue, especially on certain maps. Taking those early-round fair duels and winning is still much more likely with a vandal than phantom. It's a meme but 140 dinks are actually pretty big of an issue. Whenever I use phantom it's always 140 and then a teammate has to trade me before the enemy gets healed. With vandal on the other hand it simply does not happen. Sure, I'll miss a headshot here or there due to rng but the difference is negligible and the overwhelmingly prevalent issue is always the mechanics, which can compensate for the vandal's rng. With the vandal, it's like 99% a skill issue if you die. With the phantom, you have to factor in the distance - how many times you're gonna have to hit the enemy with a second bullet, or even a third. Making it a skill issue much less often. If you've got the aim and you do solo queue, vandal is GENERALLY the better choice. With many exceptions though. Playing Controller for instance, especially on Defence, generally makes the Phantom better.

[@TimeZ7]

If you have good aim and dont spray you should almodt never miss the second bullet on body after hitting 140

[@ilikerocks2280]

@@TimeZ7 unfortunately that only applies to lower elo where timings are 'looser'. in higher elo, if your aim isn't consistent for those two/three bullets then you're almost always screwed. In fact, the main reason good players pick vandal is because the one-tap factor makes good aim infinitely more rewarding. As I said in my previous comment, phantom excels in MANY specific situations, but as a general gun, vandal is just better. They're almost perfectly balanced though, which is why playing only one doesn't make much sense though. Buy whichever will be most likely to be suitable for what you expect will happen in the upcoming round.

[@TimeZ7]

@@ilikerocks2280 Pro teams also run players with phantoms in team since these are the ones who are spraying smokes youre clearly forgetting the main reasons why pros are using phantom as well maybe do research on some pros opinion since they play against best of the best :)

[@ilikerocks2280]

@@TimeZ7 pro play has nothing to do with ranked, even in radiant. Pro's opinions don't really matter either. The opinions that do matter are of players who were once in a common rank, and are now immo/radiant. Even then, it has to be someone who was down there enough to understand all the problems. Sure, go ahead and listen to pros. But after you do that, every radiant player will tell you that you're NOT IN VCT, and then they will go on and explain to you as to why it's fucking pointless doing radiant/pro strats in plat, when you don't even have a TEAM you REGULARLY play with!! The optimal playstyles in pro play and ranked are completely different, and shift noticeably depending on your rank and capabilities, even from game-to-game! As for your "counterpoint"... spraying smokes with phantom... is that all? Lmao. So I'm right and you think I'm wrong even though you effectively said the same thing as me. What a weirdo.

[@wolf101con4]

I use both depending on the character I'm using. I mostly use Omen and Kay-o. If I use Omen, I use phantom so I don't give away my position when flanking or teleporting and you cant see where phantom shots are coming from while near sighted. With Kay-o I use a vandal because you can't see bullet tracers while flashed and they're probably gonna know where I am anyway due to my utility giving away my positioning.

[@Carl-yn7vt]

I use phantom with kay/o cuz of the ult.. phantom with the ult is OP.

[@MrOmen101]

@@Carl-yn7vt dude WYM we litteraly know your position with kay/o ult LMAO

[@johnnyjinonjr.4874]

Vandal-One taps,Wall Bangs and for Long range maps Phantom- Spraying on the Smoke, No tracer bullets and Good for spray Transfer. Both are good in different ways!🥰

[@whatisawoooosh5036]

Vandal and Phantom have the same wall pen

[@CabalisticCat]

indeed it depends on what you want to do that round or map

[@spektree8448]

Phantom vandal wall bang equal phantom prolly better acc cause fire rate

[@BabyImSelfish]

@@whatisawoooosh5036 different damage

[@denemedeneme2444]

@@BabyImSelfish its bcs of the base dmg not the walls

[@Neichus]

Played this Loud Speaker and Siri responded... Girl thought TenZ had a lisp and said "I'm Thiri"😂

[@anthonyhernandez6477]

as a vandal user i instantly regret buying a phantom when i click people in the head and they click me back once with the vandal lol

[@grastatura]

i always have saying its 2 tap or spray all the way with phantom 😂

[@atlasamz]

And then when I buy vandel the next round my crosshair suddenly goes to their feet

[@grastatura]

@@atlasamz feet? eh its over their head

[@AmnesiaHaze87]

how do they hit a headshot when u hit them with a headshot first ? u should be able to get in a 2nd shot before the adjust their aim back to your head.

[@yodaorcamaster_6358]

had that happen in a game yesterday where I would have one tapped an oper but just dinked him instead

[@robloxgroudongameplay985]

Until you hit someone for 140 and they one tap you with vandal

[@ykspecs1833]

Whats worse is missing your shot when the crosshair is on their head brcause of the innacuracy

[@thesnowman2509]

@@ykspecs1833 phantom has better first bullet accuracy than vandal…

[@michaelkessler1774]

Skill issue

[@irrelevanttwat]

Skill issue frfr

[@ehsanlol4478]

​@@thesnowman2509 u literally said the exact same thing as him lol

[@Jugger.the.nutter]

I like the phantom more because it has a better shooting line it doesn't fire all over the place like when you're running, it doesn't spray randomly it has a somewhat of a radius you can control

[@sutrawberry]

I’m a vandal user and what you described happens to me when i use phantom😭 (i have no idea how to use a phantom i just be tryna one tap and burst like i use a vandal and bullets be going everywhere near the enemy head but the enemy head itself🤡)

[@casadev24]

@@sutrawberry skill issue

[@sutrawberry]

@@casadev24 fr😭 i need some tips on how to use the phantom😩

[@casadev24]

@@sutrawberry that sounds a like a ‘you’ problem

[@sutrawberry]

@@casadev24 definitely. that’s why I’m tryna change that

[@koshkamatew]

depends on your and enemy team compositions as well as the map, your plan for the round, your playstyle etc.

[@michaelearthur93]

The lack of spray patterns on the game makes me choose the vandal. At least I know if I tap I can reliable get a headshot.

[@hateisme]

in theory:" i ll play it slow with a vandal , and look for headshots" in reality: dies 1 minutes in while shooting 3 bullets at their feet

[@eddy_is_a_squidpotatoe471]

I love the phantom when I play omen, the spray is much more consistent then the vandals for me.

[@poopsie117]

mistake numero 1, u shouldnt be spraying haha

[@Vekcrazah]

​@@poopsie117 i mean they did say omen, so they're likely talking about through smokes or post tp

[@soap6264]

I use phantom when it's going to be close quarters, but the moment fights are going to be beyond 30 meters i will try go vandal

[@aaryav1805.gangrade]

basically always vandal

[@soap6264]

@@aaryav1805.gangrade i'd say its like a 70/30 split but mostly vandal

[@katiejoyyy08]

I also love using the phantom, to me it feels more stable and ive gotten headshots through smokes but when I first started playing, my bf would tell me to buy vandal instead

[@thaizzz]

He probably had your progress in mind. It's easy to develop bad habits using phantom

[@officialvnomusic]

What's the best thing about Phantom is you can go "Gun Run" with a very high chance to headshot

[@kit5850]

huh

[@thrasshrr_yt]

What he means about valorant being random is the first shot accuracy deviation meaning your bullets can actually at random deviate from your crosshairs. If you’ve ever swear you’ve been on someone’s head and didn’t kill them it’s probably cause of that. The phantom has a smaller first shot accuracy deviation meaning all the shots are closer to the crosshair than the vandal

[@User-vc4hy]

He’s talking bout valorant like it’s actual warfare 😭

[@ganymede1127]

Two important reasons you should pick phantom: Doesn't give away your exist position when shooting through utility, which is important in higher elos when there's almost always smokes to play around. Even if you hit 149, the higher fire rate makes up for it.

[@ByteBurats]

The main argument of Vandal mains is the 140 and shit. In a clutch situation, where the 140 is criticized a lot, an enemy is not full health ( full healths and 50 shields ) most of the time. Even if they are , you can just continue on with a spray and even one bullet connects, thats a kill .

[@aftermath8946]

I think the problem is that if you dink them they will most likely kill you if they dink you back at the same time

[@mqegg]

the only time where 140 is an issue is if you peak mid the moment barrier goes down and one taps someone which never happens in pro play, thats why phantom is usually more liked in pro play.

[@ffgnikhilgaming9621]

​@@mqeggBut most pro players prefer Vandal over Phantom and that's a fact

[@ImHomiesexual]

It's very situational and you have to be able to predict the type of fights you'll be taking, where you attack, from where you attack and what agent you play, I'd still choose vandal because phantom's spray just doesn't reset

[@pineapplepiet7641]

1 shot headshot is a very good point but there is a lot of small points (magazine, no bullettracer, firerate, ...) overpowering that advantage in my opinion.

[@splshbckYT]

Depends on the skin

[@gogaandrei24]

Phantom is basically like a +5 luck charm honestly

[@yuriii36]

Phantom headshots through walls or smokes are the most satisfying thing since Gears of war headshots prove me wrong.

[@Proterzen]

“You don’t know what’s happening on your screen most of the time.” Yeah, that sounds pretty accurate for Val.

[@soul-gt7dl]

For me, my peak rating being Immortal 2, I think the Vandal is my choice when my aim is really hot and I’m just cranking one taps, but if ever find myself crouch spraying with vandal during a match I switch to Phantom and typically do well.

[@reddie2829]

ok tenz you change opinion on this every month

[@JigglyBuff04]

TenZ be like knife is new vandal

[@rapski1848]

nah he always prefers the phantom competitively speaking. even in tourneys, he use phantom most of the time. vandal is just for content.

[@arthu7022]

​@@rapski1848 some pros says that phantom fells better in lan, but online they prefer vandal

[@pianissimo7121]

​@@arthu7022 care to explain? I don't get why l

[@mqegg]

​@@pianissimo7121 because with a vandal you only need one tap, so you can counter ping probably. but in lan theres literally almost no delay so your phantom will feel super responsive and you will be able to burst better. Thats just my assumption

[@sharkscanplay2890]

Realistically most of the time the 140 doesn't matter as typically you'll have chipped some damage off with util nowadays. With raze, kayo, and other agents that have utili damage doing that initial 10 or 25 for you

[@cheeyikchuacyc5879]

I used vandal at first but I suddenly think that if U don't have crispy aim like tenZ then U won't hit the head everytime unlike phantom U can hold it

[@AimToBlossom]

I dint expect that

[@evescent7312]

I was a Guardian main. But I changed to Vandal cause of Araxys skin. Araxys is just *chef's kiss*

[@doom0311]

bro really said gaurdian main 💀 you have to buy a proper gun on full buy

[@wayalon9728]

I use phantom since I main neon, so crosshair placement is hard to maintain when Im running around everywhere. If I play Sova, my second main, then I would go Vandal.

[@muhammadalifmulkymurtadha4493]

Wait i thought sova main use odin?

[@Colossalkitty]

As a phantom main here I’m happy to hear this

[@lonemoonsswordapprentice9024]

Weird thing but I've learned how to spray with the vandal so now I'm just popping off with it...💀

[@scoot5642]

imagine if you switch to phantom, “SEN lonemoon’s sword apprentice” they could use a igl

[@srujumadhavi111]

phantom is good but 140 hits hard mannn

[@eirgo_s]

If it's a crisp day, vandal. If not, phantom.

[@AlwafiCharki]

When you are going ahead take vandal because you will be the first to give damage, but when the enemy already damaged phantom is better

[@Reezico]

phantom is better. 😂 It’s more reliable, it’s faster, no tracers, it only takes 1 more extra bullet off the headshot, yes the vandal can one tap but the phantom shoots faster and can one tape most the time anyways. also spray transfer is crazy

[@muhdaidil5m895]

Huh, wow didnt expect that

[@kakashiuchiha1745]

For me the vandal only because like the first 2 or 1 shots are random but still accurate

[@SalehuddinAhmed-tl2nm]

Aim and confidence : vandal Poor aim and panic : phantom

[@PortersX2Ray]

When a game is more based on luck than skill its a problem

[@blakxnz]

it’s not based on luck. sometimes you just get a kill through smoke. it’s literally the same as getting a no scope in any cod game

[@PortersX2Ray]

@@blakxnz “its not based on luck” then proceeds to say “SOMETIMES you just get a kill through the smoke” and tries to base valorant (a precision shooter, apparently) to trickshots in COD 💀you were def abused as a kid

[@blakxnz]

@@PortersX2Ray yikes. projecting much?

[@Mx7cy]

I think if you’re having an longer range fight at site the vandal hits better but closer the phantom is better at closer ranges and a little faster fire rate

[@danvers34]

People who uses Phantom and Vandal depending on their mood: +10000 aura

[@msmaam2040]

Before (specially the year it released) vandal was the fave but recently more people are using phantom even in tournaments.

[@sxnthwave]

phantom is great if your team is playing with you but if you solo queue you almost have to run vandal just so you can secure those kills for the advantage

[@kim_or_kimmy]

everyone talkin about the 140 pain... bro I'm suffering with 149 when there are no walls to be seen😂

[@scooby1495]

Phantom is so smooth and feels light

[@DinglesFPS]

HE EXCLUSIVLY USES VANDAL!!!

[@stmando]

Phantom is like a contact swing and the Vandal is like a power swing

[@svfex1225]

This dude is changing his mind every week

[@anzeiru5871]

I normally start with vandal first but if it's not working changing to phantom will normally do the job and get me kills

[@SerendipitousProvidence]

Nice Rimiru avatar.

[@TopChie.]

Sage: We will take the Odin, thanks

[@zumasa9991]

Especially when there’s a lot of smokes. You can’t see the bullet trace from phantoms so it’s perfect as an omen player

[@justinb.9808]

Best way to explain this is *Vandal is Stephen Curry* and *Phantom is Kyrie Irving*

[@2xtaken803]

He says this but almost EVERY pro match you see him with vandal XD

[@crimsondemon6231]

Both are extremely balanced, but I prefer phantom when defending whole vandal when attacking

[@watersharky7589]

The main issue is that the first bullet isn’t 100% accurate which can lead to bs, iono why they decided to keep that feature but it hasn’t changed and it should

[@gkiri6025]

Every sentence he said its like a question 😂

[@abu3abedd]

Interviewer: what’s your name? TenZ: well theoretically I am supposed to be Tyson but when i was named my dad had just woke up from a comma and my mom was unconscious so I remain nameless

[@bossman1395]

this review was truly khensational

[@mramm5808]

Brim: naaa, i go bucky

[@benh2358]

I usually just say vandal has higher skill cap but it’s ultimately situational

[@J1nx_exe]

Just to be sure I'm not the only one who heard this right: *Even TENZ* doesn't know what's happening on his screen half of the time...

[@whateverppl1229]

I'm over here using the scout getting 30 kills, very rarely do people try to correct me from calling it a scout.

[@CheekyFoxCo]

The random dink is more “reliable” Sounds crazy but makes sense.

[@bizad.g1042]

When i had bad aim I was a phantom guy Now that i hav improved a little i prefer vandal coz the phantom sometimes doesn't register two head shots to 160

[@FourzeSchaeffer]

either do 140 with the phantom or miss your first shot accuracy with the vandal choose

[@letters4443]

Fishychair: GUARDIAN SUPREMACY

[@phantom9014]

The best way to put this is You can avoid long range fights for the most part, which is the weakness for phantom You can’t avoid short range fights however which the vandal sucks at

[@cronicalmen4996]

for peeks vandal for control in site or pushing phantom

[@alekberliimurat]

İf even The Esports Player talks about Vandal like that,I think he will never ever know the variety of both of the Guns.Each gun has its own speciality.

[@koushikbypuri5792]

Man just written answer for 10 marks question

[@TwinkleNZ]

This might be a sova thing but I prefer the phantom if I'm pushing from a smoke. No tracers do be nice

[@anemojin4384]

I love the phantom because it has the radient ent skin, otherwise it will be an equal of Vandal has the radient ent ver 2

[@arroscoffee]

im a phantom player. let me tell u, it’s the best one when youre not confident with your aim. i play it safe by assuring i get a kill by spraying instead of relying on my inconsistent aim. it’s also the best gun for me as a viper and fade main.

[@Cryotiic]

Nobody talking about the 1v5 ontop?

[@JOY_BOY.999]

Even i feel comfortable on phantom. I can spray easily but not the same case in vandle

[@ProwlingStalker]

At least the phantom has no bullet tracers which makes playing cypher or shooting through smokes easier

[@ubalwendrix5081]

That 1 game in breeze with drx stuck with me 1 tapping almost everyone with vandal. So phantom everywhere but vandal in breeze and maybe even lotus

[@ivan_valerian]

"A lot of randomness, you get random dinks somewhere" Well isn't it better to one tap someone randomly rather than to dink 140 someone randomly? Bruh

[@sambatphu806]

I'm phantom main, not a fan of vandal but since I have like 2 cool skins on vandal and no skin on phantom, I learned to play vandal only now.

[@kangbang718]

if its mostly a long range map or im holding a long angle, then vandal. if theres tight corners and more CQC, then phantom. idk, its the same crosshair, but i cant for the life of me hit long shots with phantom, and vice versa

[@faith4099]

In theory Phantom is great but i use the Vandal because it's good...😅

[@limgmarkey4436]

that felt like my math class.

[@AltSpecterr]

Yeah i also think the rate of phantom spraying bullets is more than vandal as well.

[@dustinadty9961]

welp I always choose between those two depends on the maps. if it was tight and much more small, phantom is better all the way for me. but for big maps with long gaps between each encounter (breeze for example (sorry again for choosing it TvT) I use vandal bcs it's easier to use in long range situations)

[@Tango06]

Then raging when I dink 140 on the last guy to my ace💀💀

[@JoxtalZ]

In Theory, it’s the guardian.

[@Batman-xx4vv]

Idk why bulldog feels better overall for me, doing heads feel easier on the bulldog than phantom

[@my.name_00]

phantom is consistency. vandal is confidence.

[@shogun0810]

"it's kinda random so I'm picking the gun that doesn't have one tap potential" Seems kinda hypocritical to me

[@zpat3819]

Going outside or valorant Val players: Val These questions are stupid as shit