Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial 04 December 2024

[@MthokoMkhungo]

The judge is trying hard but he is failing and the worse other judge's are watching misinterpreting the law

[@DiraGadibonwe]

Which law did he misinterpret???

[@TheLan70]

Whoever appointed this judge did that on purpose😢

[@sarahmkhabela5485]

Ramaphosa ANC

[@sushelarajkumar367]

SAY THAT AGAIN N AGAIN.😮😮😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@bongumusamanqele154]

I suspect that UBaloyi had something to do with it.

[@LeshhowardMakwara]

Judging from his judge history 😂😂😂 yes 🕺🏽

[@MahlomolaKhatlake]

There is nothing wrong with the judge, he is human like any of us. He hasn't pass verdict as yet, why should the judge be judged even before his verdict on the matter? Actually what do we want to see happening? What do we know that we don't bring forth? Justice for senzo or critics of the state and justice?

[@ColeCollinsCostance1673-q7l]

Nxumalo could be Gininda's worst nightmare only if Gininda is lying to the court.

[@boniwelushaba8222]

Gininda IS LYING TO THE COURT.

[@boniwelushaba8222]

Nxumalo is coming with RECEIPTS !!!🧾 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Blackmoses2]

How come the judge never helps defence with a sticking point but does with the state?

[@abemosiuoa6449]

@Blackmoses2 ... he is an apartheid judge. He emulated the racist ones before him. I can tell you for free that during his days, all these boers to whom he was reporting yo... would always tell the jappies that, "You're not like them." They were referring to the fact that he is different from all his other black colleagues. They would put a wedge to a point where the Rathas would in, afrikaans: "Wit raak"

[@Amahlentuli3274]

Gininda looks and sound strong because he has support from the Judge hence defence is being oppress by the same judge...

[@maryanndiamond1690]

Ginida is a walking definition of Gaslighter 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 am nor more 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 u finished me

[@tandompila5420]

Him and the Judge....disgusting

[@ma_tee_n]

Gininda is one of the top officials of SAPS that will be investigated that Ian Cameroon spoke about.

[@malusintombela7483]

Any person who over explain himself or herself in most cases will not be telling the truth.

[@abemosiuoa6449]

He is clutching at straws... all the innocent people he has thrown to gutters.

[@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682]

🔥👌🏿💣MASTER OF BLUE TICKS Nxuuu paralysed 2% brigadiya he even lost tlhaloganyo 'no no no yes no yes my lord' which is which wa tsenwa ne🤣defense shud bring accuse#6 ka force💪🏿

[@aluwanimakhado2641]

Ratha is the main wutness in this court. This old man is so silly

[@phumelelongxangane6493]

One of the things that sends people to prison for a very long time is their disposition and demeanour. If you don't show remorse it counts against. It's ok if you're not found guilty.

[@tshegofatsofaya]

Your point?

[@tshililomelvinnekhavhambe3601]

3 😂😂😂

[@brianluthuli4662]

You can ask Gininda any questions he's going to answer you with a long answer what's a confidence 🙏🏾 this guy knows what his doing even people doubt him watch the space 😅guys there is a lot to be reveal

[@ConnieMorake]

Gininda is a dumb liar of note. His lies are slowly catching up with him.

[@xolanimahlinza7396]

one must question your thinking capacity, i doubt your operating system is updated 😂😂😂😂

[@everbote7858]

Confidence of exposing himself to the extend of saying as long DNA is picking some region even it's not rich 16. It's inclusive 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Ratha up saying people must go and understand how DNA works

[@sushelarajkumar367]

RATHA IS TERRIFIED OF GININDA THERE MUST BE A REASON 4 THAT.

[@aluwanimakhado2641]

Has! Baloyi! Y are not calling Kelly when Gininda is saying she is the Master mind haaa

[@TaLwaa1]

These advocates are going to get these people arrested. They are so emotional.

[@slindilezungu7906]

Eish exactly my point. I'm so disappointed😢. I don't really get where the emotions come from, because they're not there for themselves but for their clients. Or is it because of the social media fame. They're failing the accused shem...Not even looking forward to Mshololo's cross examination because I know she'll be shouting and insulting Gininda instead of calmly and respectfully defending the accused.

[@thembelamayedwa]

I think the judge should take his own advice and go read the DNA analysis. Your reasoning is the stupiest I've ever heard. There are no inconclusive DNA results. Its either positive or negetive, simple as that

[@JackPhala]

Gininda is more clever than all the advocates. If you don't believe me ask mgomezulu.the long answer he gives confuses whoever is cross exermining him

[@abemosiuoa6449]

The court records would negate that... that is far fetched!!!

[@simonmosomane7993]

he either confused you with his fluent english explaining his investigation rules and procedures, or you simply don't understand the law. the defence is actually punching holes patiently, his long explanations are actually a rope to hang himself because "so far as" the questions that matters, he is failing dismally and throwing the N/DPP under the bus. watch the space.

[@JabulisiweMchunu]

💯💯💯💪

[@zimakazimashiya298]

Does this judge want to be a witness why is he finishing sentences for Gininda

[@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us]

By introducing the statement (s) of Simphiwe Buthelezi, Ndwandwe and Gwabini i think Adv Z Nzumalo is shooting her client on the foot...i maybe be very wrong but my gut feeling tells me that...4/12/2024

[@WandaGcaleka]

Ai gininda sengiyamethemba manje yibonalaba ababulala senzo ntonje bavikela Kelly khumalo

[@nokuthulagloria9153]

Longwe owaziyo ngane ka Chicco thwala kanti futhi wayekhona kuyi crime scene

[@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us]

I know I ll be shouted at and labelled "Domkop" and all other insulting words but truth be told even in the face of harsh criticism and insults, Brig BN Gininda did his homework in investigating this case and he testifies with unparalleled confidence and clarity....there is no legitimate criticism that can be levelled against him other than usual adjectives eg "crook", liar, sgebengu and all other sorts of things...The court is likely to lean heavily in his testimony but not alone...4/12/2024

[@kiki_blackie]

💯 correct ✅

[@abemosiuoa6449]

😂😂😂

[@Amahlentuli3274]

Ubuye uzosho lento namhlanje sekuphuma imiphumela yalelicala

[@KoosAphane]

I fully agree

[@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755]

Domkop nyani

[@bhekizizweSibanyoni-dv4oz]

Gininda is a star. He covered all the angles. Mnisi couldn't brake him nd Nxumalo is a small advocate compared to Gininda. Big up Gininda

[@kiki_blackie]

💯 correct ✅

[@KhayaMahlnagu-yv8so]

😂😂😂😂😂😂your star 🌟 🤩 😅😂😂😂

[@siyamsiyana5396]

Your star 🌟 😂😂😂😂😂

[@azdeda9543]

If Gininda is a star then stars are awful

[@kingsleykapater6439]

Our star Brig G🙌🏾

[@TarProJamJam]

Adv Nxumalo 🎉🎉🎉

[@fikilechwalisile2861]

We are waiting for Kelly to stand here a explain what's happening in the spaza

[@thobekamgobhozi1265]

The claim that the accused were present at the scene based on a match of 4 out of 22 DNA markers is fundamentally flawed. Human beings share a significant portion of their DNA, and partial matches can easily occur between unrelated individuals or relatives. For example, in paternity tests, a biological father typically matches 99.9% of the child’s DNA markers, while a non-biological father has much lower matches, often close to 0%. A result of 40% in such a test does not imply “half the father” but rather a possible partial relationship, such as a shared family connection or an error in the sample. Key Issues with the Evidence: 1. Shared Human DNA: Human DNA is highly similar across individuals. Therefore, a match of only 4 out of 22 markers is insufficient to conclusively place the accused at the scene. It is more likely indicative of a shared genetic profile among the general population or a distant familial relationship. 2. Exclusion of the Accused: The low number of matching markers does not meet the threshold for a definitive match. This suggests the accused were not present at the scene, particularly when higher levels of genetic markers would be expected if they had significant contact. 3. Missing DNA of Known Individuals: It is suspicious that no DNA was found from individuals confirmed to have been at the scene, especially given the physical altercations and shared contact with surfaces during the alleged incident. This raises questions about evidence tampering or deliberate wiping of surfaces to remove incriminating material. 4. Logic and Scientific Standards: Forensic evidence should meet rigorous scientific thresholds. The lack of conclusive DNA evidence tying the accused to the scene undermines the reliability of the claims against them. If individuals known to have been present left no DNA traces, how can a weak partial match implicate someone else? Conclusion: The evidence does not conclusively place the accused at the scene. Instead, the findings suggest either contamination, deliberate removal of evidence, or the presence of shared DNA markers common to many individuals. Without stronger evidence, the accused should be excluded based on the scientific limitations of the presented data.

[@Tayma11June]

Gininda believes 2% is enough

[@OsbornFf]

Gininda who already pass LLB said your wrong under ourth 0.5% its enough accused they where there at spaza shop allegedly.😂😂😂😂 EVEN JUDGE RATHA.

[@maryanndiamond1690]

Haai the world is laughing at our South Africa state.. Government..

[@TheLan70]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@sushelarajkumar367]

1090000 % in agreement. SA JUSTICE SYSTEM IS LAUGHABLE..TO SAY THE LEAST..JUST LOOK AT THE CALIBRE OF RATHA A SA JUDGE 😮😮😮😮

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

Yes the world is laughing on these incompetent advocates . Imagine lawyers who are extremely lazy to read and they can't even open a usb drive😂😂😂😂

[@nontuthuzelombuthuma5864]

What about the advocate abahluleka dismally ukuveza abasolwa bemsulwa

[@WandileDlamini-c9w]

Shame on those in authority

[@aluwanimakhado2641]

Gininda is implicating Kelly for a reason. There is a motive here. They are playing a game here.

[@ConnieMorake]

And Kelly will never go down for nothing

[@bongumusamanqele154]

​@@ConnieMorakeKelly won't go down. The judge will say there is no enough evidence to call for Kelly's arrest. The accused will go down for Longwe

[@slindilezungu7906]

​@bongumusamanqele154 If there's not enough evidence to arrest Kelly it would mean the same for the accused. Why would the accused kill Senzo? Who paid them? If the main suspect is not found then there was no justice for Senzo. We've been wasting time

[@bongumusamanqele154]

@slindilezungu7906 true

[@bongumusamanqele154]

We can see clearly that the Judge is colluding with the state. The state witnesses are enjoying so much protection from the judge and UBaloyi but you will see the hostility towards defence witnesses.

[@NQA1209]

The defense has not discredited not a single witness. The state has sealed this case, whoever still think otherwise is not following the evidence. Mngomezulu saw this unfolding, Mnisi also tried to be sick card but change his minds

[@Tayma11June]

Who according to you is Gininda's source Zungu or his father?

[@NQA1209]

@@Tayma11June follow the case n listen to evidence unbiased

[@mthokozisiluthuli528]

Nxa this judge let go there bafethu siyoyigxoba sikhathele manje!!! Akesenzeni nje usuku siyeni

[@boniwelushaba8222]

Ratha umgulukudu kodwa🤞🏾😅. This old man has no shame. How can he be so openly biased 🤷🏾‍♀️🤢🤮

[@lynettemunk7277]

Shame Adv Nxumalo is the weakest link sorry to say but it’s my opinion. Feel so sorry for his client ☹️🙈

[@SAMSUKAZI]

But judge Ratha today you made my day on that run away phone as Gininda has put it and off course on that DNA tests of those accused persons in court✊✊✊✊

[@lesibamanamela9054]

2hour rule yashaya bona.

[@andilemthethwa3976]

Likhona kodwa icala elake lawinwa ilomfana wakaNxumalo ngeke ngimelwe isnokwe esinjena mina

[@JabulisiweMchunu]

😅😅😅😅😅😂🤞💯

[@dimples8102]

Judge enjoys being a state witness🤮it's so annoying, I wonder how it is for defence 🙄

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

The other part, I am timid about it, is the presidency he set in this case. There were four law students who used to be in court. Surely, they were there for study purposes. Now they are not attending the court of Judge madakweni anymore.

[@ASHBRO481]

😂😂😂​@@kingphoka-uf5tk

[@LilyCalla24]

The way Gininda is gaslighting Nxumalo is freaken unbelievable and just unbearable to watch!!!

[@TaLwaa1]

Advocate Mnisi lied in court & refused to apologize when he was exposed. Gininda is dealing with these advocates😂

[@nontuthuzelombuthuma5864]

Never expected apologies from small puppy

[@slindilezungu7906]

Ai I was very disappointed. Advocates all they come to do in that court is to shout at Gininda and insult him. They have years of experience bu still don't know the LAW. Kanti what do they use in support of their defense for their clients 😫 ...Mnisi be saying "What's that law again"😢. Wemameh🤮🤮🤮

[@triplembranguscharolais8098]

Defence, please do research guys. There was no data call around 2014 including blackberry This thing is winnable guys

[@levelgroundboerboels4183]

Stop lying. If you don't know, you must ask. There was data calls 2014. It has been used for years.

[@MakabongweDumoluhle]

Clear it is a made up case, vele the result are to try and prove its not all of them who entered the house....

[@boniwelushaba8222]

The lies are refusing now Brig 😢😢😢😅😅😅

[@dannym7593]

What lies? Please tell us the truth, not conspiracy theories.

[@ndumomncube955]

It is him Gininda who said when ever he has interview he document

[@MartinVilakazi-ft9de]

When they ran to the direction to the park where is the red car 🚘 that they come with

[@philladlokova1511]

I suspect the red car is the polo that was driven by longwe

[@KennyMulaudzi]

What i know a defense must deny everything even if there is evidence against them 😅

[@thusoetsilegaseemelwe8849]

Unfortunately that's their job 😂 if they do the opposite then they will be fired

[@tandompila5420]

My 71year old uncle said icala alivunywa...bazokugweba bona nge evidence yabo not wena uvume icala😂

[@tshililomelvinnekhavhambe3601]

​@@tandompila5420This is what the accused is doing in this case

[@Magz-101]

So, no DNA placing any accused on scene, no witness could place them (they all said tall, brown, long dreads and gold tooth). The alleged shooter is short, light skinned, had short dreads and no gold tooth. So, this case hinders on plenty of evidence but at the crime scene. I’m interested to see how the judge will explain finding these guys guilty because we all know they are definitely gonna be found guilty

[@ahmedserekonyane3339]

And there is more that is questionable about this case

[@mashabakearabetswe417]

"we paid him including Mabena and others.But Mabena got greedy that's why he decided to go to heaven before Mr Meyiwa".

[@makgaboepitanus6969]

Ginindja is in court for cross examination - not to speak his mind ..... nor discuss this case or pose questions to anyone. .. . . . What does he not UNDERSTAND? Khulubarat ... khurubarat ....

[@KMatolo]

Why is Gininda evasive without being guided by the Judge to merely answer the questions ❓

[@SiphoDladla-dr5tr]

Ngeke ikwazi idefence ukuwina ngoba uma bethi bayamcindezela ufakazi kuvele kungenelele ijudge manje vele ngeke bawine kulecourt

[@anniemanda-qh2sj]

They won't shame the judge is already with the state

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

It’s funny to hear the whole advocates interpreting DNA results like KZbinrs in here 🤣🤣 even worse after an expert has explained all that !🤦‍♂️you had time to canvas this questions with experts and you did and failed and now you wanna debate it with a non expert in that field simply coz he is an investigating officer 🤦‍♂️..they keep dragging the case with useless questions

[@thobekamgobhozi1265]

The claim that the accused were present at the scene based on a match of 4 out of 22 DNA markers is fundamentally flawed. Human beings share a significant portion of their DNA, and partial matches can easily occur between unrelated individuals or relatives. For example, in paternity tests, a biological father typically matches 99.9% of the child’s DNA markers, while a non-biological father has much lower matches, often close to 0%. A result of 40% in such a test does not imply “half the father” but rather a possible partial relationship, such as a shared family connection or an error in the sample. Key Issues with the Evidence: 1. Shared Human DNA: Human DNA is highly similar across individuals. Therefore, a match of only 4 out of 22 markers is insufficient to conclusively place the accused at the scene. It is more likely indicative of a shared genetic profile among the general population or a distant familial relationship. 2. Exclusion of the Accused: The low number of matching markers does not meet the threshold for a definitive match. This suggests the accused were not present at the scene, particularly when higher levels of genetic markers would be expected if they had significant contact. 3. Missing DNA of Known Individuals: It is suspicious that no DNA was found from individuals confirmed to have been at the scene, especially given the physical altercations and shared contact with surfaces during the alleged incident. This raises questions about evidence tampering or deliberate wiping of surfaces to remove incriminating material. 4. Logic and Scientific Standards: Forensic evidence should meet rigorous scientific thresholds. The lack of conclusive DNA evidence tying the accused to the scene undermines the reliability of the claims against them. If individuals known to have been present left no DNA traces, how can a weak partial match implicate someone else? Conclusion: The evidence does not conclusively place the accused at the scene. Instead, the findings suggest either contamination, deliberate removal of evidence, or the presence of shared DNA markers common to many individuals. Without stronger evidence, the accused should be excluded based on the scientific limitations of the presented data.

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

@ lol I read few of your clueless paragraph and what I pick is that you fail to recignise that ther was an alleged master mind in that same house with chilling evidance that someone related to her cleaned the scene,evidance that none called police after incidence or ambulance until neighbours who found senzo gasping for his life laying on the floor until this neighbours call the police .the evidance of femal DNA from the hurt which was alleged to have been worn by one of the accused by same people in the house whr master mind was ..such kind of cases don’t need average people like you coz otherwise justice will never be served..after all this how do you even expect to find accurately matching DNA..and inconclusive DNA findings can either be positive or negative which is a concept this so called advocates struggle with

[@AndileShezi-n6c]

But the problem all of pple in side the house we dnt know his regions. Bese singakhulumake ngo region

[@kiki_blackie]

Nxumalo running out of questions to ask,he’s not prepared

[@ZEEH406]

Maybe you can help him neh😂😂😂

[@njabulojb2994]

You watched a different case

[@CoachDuks]

You are mad 😅

[@voiceofjustice-pm]

That's why you are still single... that kind of reasoning 😮😮

[@KhayaMahlnagu-yv8so]

​@@voiceofjustice-pm😂😂😂😂😂

[@manuelmodimola9732]

Nxumalo looks very lost. I don't think he knows where he is at😮😮😮😮

[@manuelmodimola9732]

First time I have seen denial being used as a defense 😊😊😊

[@tsholonuza5283]

Then Ramaphosa with his Nigerian family, aaai this country is corrupt

[@jessicabradley6657]

Who hires Nxumalo to be their lawyer honestly 😮😮😮 he sounds as if he did not have breakfast or he wants to go to the toilet. And fools say Black mamba wat black mamba ???the guy is not confident at all looks defeated or shy. Wrong profession for Nxumalo shame.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@sphangobese6547]

Says the best lawyer of the country... I'm sure you would've do a much better job like you doing behind your keyboard.

[@reubenmkhwanazi6734]

Very shy and nervous. His demeanour varies when he responds to the judge.

[@AndileShezi-n6c]

I respective kulaba ababeaendlini ngabe ugininda wawathola yini ukuthi DNA .ibafaka kwamangaki ama region . B4 he used that avidance against accuses

[@thabsilemadonda8135]

It’s a pity that Gininda can’t explain the call analysis but he has been explaining the link like the towers and DNA but can’t explain some questions 🤣🤣🤣 he think we stupid 🚮

[@DiraGadibonwe]

The witness is smooth-sailing. The accused are in trouble.

[@donnyNgcobomuhle8729]

Something is not adding up here Zungu’s father Zungu,gininda,the Khumalo’s and Baloyi mmmmmmmm?

[@ElvisKumalo]

Baloyi hw on earth say that Kelly will not called to testify like really

[@ConnieMorake]

The defence team will call her.

[@nokuthulacebekulu]

kodwa ijaji lithe akabizwe

[@sirbubzin9752]

Kelly is so protected and they ar scared of him even the judge other people he was giving am order to come to court but on Kelly he pushed to the diffence

[@bontleMorake-zd2jg]

Dis case have 2 dockets Baloyi is on first docket for murder Second docket will charge evryone who were in da house for defeating the end of justice Hence not calling kelly as she will be 1st suspect in da second docket

[@MahlomolaKhatlake]

Kelly is reserved to be arrested...soon she will be in front of the court of law

[@abemosiuoa6449]

Jerr this Gininda fellow is nauseating... he is constantly swerving through multiple sentences at a go and at the back of his mind, he thinks he is navigating through the court's mind. Jerrr!!!

[@msizingubane]

No my Lord subsequently Zungu was subsequently my Lord subsequently, subsequently no my Lord subsequently yes my Lord 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ConnieMorake]

And I was not there😂😂😂😂😂

[@msizingubane]

😅😅😅

[@VuyolwethuMnunu]

You say you sawu the guy Westonaria you are big liare gininda msukanu kanyoko yonke ifamily yakho uyayithetha ikaka wena kutheni ungathethi Inyani ulothe Twala wabulala usenzo u Kelly Khumalo uyayazi lento ngoba wena wanikwa imali no Balo no ratarven sanusanza abantwana mna ndifu u judge Roger apha gqha

[@WandileDlamini-c9w]

Mr subsequently my lord 😂😂😂

[@thandicindi6413]

In as far as. My understanding of the question

[@nkululekongwane113]

It must be said that Gininda is a very smart liar he's confidence is on another level i won't be surprised that he uses coke

[@donnyNgcobomuhle8729]

Indeed Kelly Kumalo is a complaint in this matter not a suspect l do agree?

[@nokuthulacebekulu]

manje kumele eze

[@ma_tee_n]

She’s a complainant but they turned her into a suspect because she didn’t want to lie about the whole incident.

[@Patty_6909]

A phone can log onto a tower that is 8.4km away. (Proven if its 6km the runaway phone was in the houae. From Spaza to moleleki its possible. Advocates must do research and discrefit the evidence given. Mthoko said the S4 was on charger. Mosia concealed crucial evidence

[@lesibamanamela9054]

Data calls are specific nd they specify what type of data call is that you cannot just say its a data call

[@LeshhowardMakwara]

The domino of ntuli after Gininda comment on those photos says a lot 🙆🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@DiraGadibonwe]

This Counsel is getting schooled by a witness. Guy is confused.

[@everbote7858]

Mr 2% you tried to change the DNA as in inclusive

[@MatshidisoAlinaMashee]

😂😂😂Gininda did his homework 🎉🎉

[@EstherNthupi]

With the help of the state All the time that he was waiting to be called to testify.

[@siphesihlemqiniseni3013]

Did his work where? Your Gininda is going down slims

[@masilokoka6558]

Nxumalo crashed him

[@JabulisiweMchunu]

💯💯💯🤞

[@siphesihlemqiniseni3013]

@ indeed my brother Gininda thinks he is clever

[@mphosamokgwadi2447]

The phone in question has no owner but phone were taken and Gininda can't even say we have that phone on record as one of the phones that were taken from people who were in the house.

[@thusoetsilegaseemelwe8849]

It's Kelly's phone mos kante which trial are you guys watching. The statements were made in 2014 already when the docket was opened

[@yassinkapawo]

Even Gininda distances himself

[@mphosamokgwadi2447]

We know it's Kelly's phone but why Gininda can't recognize it from the phones that were taken for downloads?? Actually that phone on the picture is unknown because state can't prove which one is it.​@thusoetsilegaseemelwe8849

[@maryanndiamond1690]

Yoooh the judge is bought

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

Evidence?

[@ConnieMorake]

Don't worry.... Ratha is making Balois witnesses comfortable. He will never let his 50yrs experience go down to waste. Watch the space.

[@SenzoNgidi-k6v]

If I would look like these guys in prison I want to go there I don't have anything to cut my hair to wash my clothes or to put a lotion on my poor face😢

[@levelgroundboerboels4183]

uGininda unibambe ngamasende nonke eniSupporter ababulali

[@Patty_6909]

Advocate. Msholloo wiill come amd tell the court that theres no runaqay phone.

[@ColeCollinsCostance1673-q7l]

Gininda says money was given to the accused but doesn't have anything to support his statement , how does he know that since it wasn't given through the bank?

[@siyandamagubane8711]

Ntanzi's alleges that he was paid R45000 in his confessions!

[@thembizondo7576]

A confession we know for a fact he was beaten up for.

[@ColeCollinsCostance1673-q7l]

@@siyandamagubane8711 Confession that is not backed by evidence means nothing in court 🤔

[@katlobothokenosi1055]

Basically in this case there is no independent evidence to support any claims made in the alleged confession other than he said she said evidence which is basically hearsay We are just here for gossip

[@ColeCollinsCostance1673-q7l]

@@katlobothokenosi1055 You are spot on you've been following this case Sir / Mam 👌

[@Joyce-gf5ei]

N Humalo sit down

[@BorothoJimmy]

Ginida mxm

[@ThaboMaile-ii2js]

Rathe with yout caliber and you bring yourself so low you disgrace us it seems your not from Alex and klovus what a shame on u sis

[@ConnieMorake]

Hayi Gininda is rambling. A 2seconds question is answered in 10minutes, maybe this guy us not ok. Any speech specialist in this group to help please 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sithuthukilewendyzwane8110]

Mentioning Nxumalo as 'her 'has me thinking of you as a person of low IQ

[@WandileDlamini-c9w]

He is not ok upstairs

[@ConnieMorake]

@@WandileDlamini-c9w I agree

[@ma_tee_n]

What was Zungu doing in court kanti if akazi lutho?

[@sdludlusd]

The DNA evidance is not sufficient

[@jabulilecnkambule4427]

Ginindaya,for a yes or no you give a whole paragraph, hoping the answers will be found amongst your lies,thats stupid 😂

[@ndumomncube955]

If its true what Gininda say that Ntamzi confirmed payments were done cash so what was rhe reason for him to apply for bank records?

[@tebohowaronakhoabane1290]

Can we as a country contribute and get the best defence team from the state and finish with this case it's been forever now yoh

[@tshililomelvinnekhavhambe3601]

Contribute for the killers?

[@tebohowaronakhoabane1290]

@tshililomelvinnekhavhambe3601 They killers yes but not for this case

[@zimakazimashiya298]

Gininda is cracking …lying under oath

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

What are the lies?

[@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us]

M having the same question Gatsheni but usually in this platform the answers one receives are insults and all sorts of abuse...4/12/2024

[@lornagaika3962]

logic tells that ZUngu would have mentioned his father during his confession

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

Your logic dictates "gininda speculate " he enjoys the court protection

[@LeshhowardMakwara]

Mara everytime Gininda mentions the name Makeleni's name, he has this strange breathing glitches 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@MolefiSammuelManana]

Gininda insists that Kelly paid the accused, that makes her the mastermind, why is she not in the accised box

[@MolefiSammuelManana]

Accused box

[@TheLan70]

So called prosecutor is awake because it’s their court

[@maryanndiamond1690]

Distracting the laywer. Yoh the judge is bought?!!

[@sushelarajkumar367]

😮😮😮 the whole day Ratha was distracting Nxumalo.

[@kiki_blackie]

Nxumalo is all over the place,it doesn’t look like he was ready for the Brigadier 😅

[@FortNox-d8o]

Which case are you watching

[@snehnenez6284]

uthini ???kanti nibuka liph icala or awuzwa lutho😮😮

[@kiki_blackie]

@@FortNox-d8oI’ll just ignore you Fool

[@kiki_blackie]

@@snehnenez6284usumbuzile kodwa unyoko konke lokho🤔noma nje uphethwe ukphapha

[@fundyc1557]

Aybo 😂

[@Joyce-gf5ei]

Gininda, you're a STAR

[@SbudaDee]

Who had access to Data Calls in 2014? 😂

[@thusoramakobya7054]

U cannot convict a person on DNA that says inconclusive

[@justice4147]

Money speaks in this case

[@tagless1717]

Adv Nxumalo was on fire today asking relevant question

[@thusoramakobya7054]

Gininda evasive but in the DNA he can comment..

[@kwenaeurieramphele2562]

If you are not qualified to analyse them y demand to be furnished with them?