What wheel/tire combo do you have on the rivian? It looks amazing!
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! These are our brand new MPP Mega Terra wheels on both the Rivian and the Cybertruck! The tires are 275/65/20 BFG K03's More info here: www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-mega-terra-rivian-r1t-r1s-forged-wheels/
@Psalm-yg6yi4 ай бұрын
Maybe best to have that rear cover up for stuff like that.
@MrDwaynecasey4 ай бұрын
@@MountainPassPerformance Nice ! They looks great! Any info on how those tires wheels affect performance range on road?
@jamiered71024 ай бұрын
Man, the vid from the rivian with the cybertruck following is awesome. Looks like being chased by a spaceship. Let the haters do what they do. I'm loving it more and more
@ahmed-270004 ай бұрын
yeah I love it too
@cornbread70s44 ай бұрын
Exactly…
@Mrbfgray3 ай бұрын
I literally thought in was a joke, then got sick that I had so much stock when it 1st rolled on stage. Got over that in couple days, been slowly growing on me since. It's the *substance:* steering, locking diffs, suspension....etc., that matters.
@NIO39544 ай бұрын
AWSOME! Cybertruck looks like a freekin' UFO chasing the Rivian !
@juanmedinar204 ай бұрын
The manual says to remove those front and rear aero pieces I believe before going off-roading. The Cybertruck looks awesome.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
We removed the fronts... Missed the rears! And yeah, the Cybertruck in the field looked very Dystopian. It was an awesome backdrop
@carholic-sz3qv4 ай бұрын
lol!!!!!!
@stevencase2434 ай бұрын
That was some sick driving, love the close chase.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Likewise, awesome pictures from Laguna!!
@Jedi21554 ай бұрын
The CyberBeast literally looks like it's out of Jurassic Park chasing you like that @13:40 it's insane footage!
@GT-224 ай бұрын
That chase scene near the end is how I now expect all movies to to film and their chase scenes 😁
@zeitgeist8884 ай бұрын
It would have been really nice to see each driven over a set course for time and include the Raptor R and SxS for comparison. A detail of the various damage and causes or fixes would be great when they get repaired.
@danielsan834 ай бұрын
Sick video, don’t know why so many people hate on EVs. They are badass.
@shou6354 ай бұрын
People feel threatened I guess.
@robp34314 ай бұрын
Very expensive to repair
@aussie2uGA4 ай бұрын
It's turned political. This year media went wild telling liberals that Elon is a Nazi while simultaneously telling conservatives that Elon is the reason you won't be able to buy your gas/diesel vehicle soon.
@DrakeKC3 ай бұрын
@@robp3431ehh try repairing anything on that Raptor R. It’s not like it’s cheap!
@truhartwood31702 ай бұрын
@@robp3431statistically, EV owners spend the least on repairs and maintenance. A big part of why repairs are expensive when they do happen is because they're still being ramped up in production quickly and lots of changes are constantly being made, so there isn't the efficiency of scale yet. When there are millions of CTs on the road and they've refined it to the point they're not maijg huge changes month by month and the 3rd party parts are available then it will get as cheap or cheaper than ICE vehicles to fix (fewer things to break).
@TJY2K4 ай бұрын
Lesson here is if you're going to rally the CT, open the Tonneau cover
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Indeed
@jonathanmelhuish45303 ай бұрын
The owners manual says it can be open or closed but they're probably not expecting you to do massive 76mph jumps like that 😂 It does recommend to remove the wheel fairings and wheel covers though. Maybe worth reading at least that page of the manual before your next offroad adventure? It's not very long!
@xxKURTMANxx4 ай бұрын
Not an EV guy at all but I appreciate the proper flogging of these things. Now more Kels!!
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Kels parts just arrived, stay tuned!
@jooptablet17274 ай бұрын
I love how I was able to follow most of your technical talk because of my mountain bike background even though I know next to nothing about rally cars or whatever you call this insane type of driving haha. Unbelievable shots, so cool!
@bugatti194 ай бұрын
I think sand mode on the Rivian turns off the traction control more then the other modes if not all the way off. At least that what I felt with mine.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
We'll give that a try next time, hopefully it's better!
@michaelpatterson87584 ай бұрын
Doing the hard labor testing I see guys. That looked like way too much fun! Never doubt MPP commitment to full send.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
It's hard work but someone has to do it!
@catbert73 ай бұрын
You should see WhistlinDiesel's Cybertruck vid; you have no idea xD
@AllistairNeil4 ай бұрын
The cybertruck windscreen is very hard to chip or break because of the angle. However some examples have cracked due to stress. Amazing to see them hustle round the course like that.😊
@quicksilver404 ай бұрын
Those bumper shots of the cybertruck from the rivian were epic!
@Thailand-Servant-1114 ай бұрын
From the video, the Cybertruck looks easy to drive and more stable than the Rivian.😊 Thanks from Thailand🎉
@police4284 ай бұрын
This is really cool! I could see this in a movie somewhere the Raptor R being chased as the hero and Cybertruck being the Villian! Some sort of dystopian fantasy of Gasoline outlaws!
@arkhsm3 ай бұрын
Except of course, like this comparo....you would not see a RaptoR !!
@Matt-dx3wo4 ай бұрын
really doing it! Rivian looks amazing with that wheel and tire combo
@JohnBarber4 ай бұрын
Rivian, FIX IT! I can't wait to do this with my R2/R3X
@KyleConner4 ай бұрын
This was amazing!! Full send 👌
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
It was a surprisingly good time!!
@RichardSalmore4 ай бұрын
Too much fun😊 What a fantastic playground to test the limits! More videos...please🎉
@BaconCruiser4 ай бұрын
So the Raptor R is just sitting out this comparison? Also I appreciate Scotty maintaining his power stance throughout!
@cyberlandr1034 ай бұрын
Excellent video and thanks for being completely honest with your feedback. We will share this with our subscribers. (PS: Tesla recommends removing the wheel aero covers and front fascia wheel fairings before off-roading. ;). Keep up the great work!
@carholic-sz3qv4 ай бұрын
why arent other vehicles removing any stuff?! WTF!!!
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Thanks! The rear wheel fairings are not removable. The manual notes to remove only the fronts along with the wheel aero covers. We checked the manual to be sure after all of the internet comments!
@Turbo_Todd3 ай бұрын
@carholic-sz3qv jeeps without auto swaybar disconnect require you to get out and disconnect for some off-roading. The removable aero pieces on the CT are purely for better range.
@CrumResearch4 ай бұрын
Hmmm, where is the video of the Raptor R on this course?
@jamiered71023 ай бұрын
It died on the way
@GT-224 ай бұрын
That camera shot from rear left panel side of the CyberTruck, gave me Interstellar vibes. LOL!
@George_Shonia4 ай бұрын
what I like, no, what I love is that, because it is quite & there is no roaring engine noice, you hear how all the rocks & dusts are hitintg to external panels of the truck & hear electric motor noices, it gives you a cosmic vibes! feels & sounds like you're in spaceship re-entering in atmosphere or flying with an airplane trough heavy clouds with high cruising speed! this is just dream come true for me personally, I want cybertruck
@formytots01284 ай бұрын
Great video. Finally expert review on off-road performance between Cybertruck and Rivian. Glad to hear Cybertruck exceeded their expectations. Thanks for the test and review. :)
@CrumResearch4 ай бұрын
What a great video. Hadn't realized that Rivian software was so limiting, but now we know.
@Frank_W.4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video guys and your opinions regarding both vehicles. Huge fan of the Cybertruck and will be buying it. I’m not planning on doing anything near as extreme as what you put it through so I’m sure that it will hold up quite well.
@pasangsherpa40364 ай бұрын
"You are Flying"........nice👍👍👍
@rahulxsood4 ай бұрын
I love my Cyberbeast, honestly the best truck I’ve ever owned.
@carholic-sz3qv4 ай бұрын
nope
@davidtrumble86094 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qvactually, yep. I have a dual motor CT and I can vouch for it being the best truck I've ever owned. It's not even close
@444thunderstr0ke4 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv Yes actually. I also have a Cyberbeast. Never going back to gas.
@AI-Driven-Entrepreneur4 ай бұрын
I have the dual motor and also a YP, 3LR and S and it is the most fun, the most comfortable and my favorite vehicle ever but a landslide. I do get tired of all the attention though!
@danielvandermerwe79214 ай бұрын
I have a model y performance. I’ve owned tons of cars and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Never going back to gas.
@canieto14 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to make a quick video going over the damage the Cybertruck suffered? It sounds like stronger control arms may be a worthwhile aftermarket upgrade. Thanks! this was an awesome video!
@aussie2uGA4 ай бұрын
Remember what their company does ;)
@Turbo_Todd3 ай бұрын
Both the CT and Rivian had bent control arms. Read the Raptor forums for suspension problems they have. There are many reported. Mostly shocks, but there are others.
@Psalm-yg6yi4 ай бұрын
I'm excited to see Scotty in that new horror movie, SMILE 2. 😂
@Story_Teller_Everyone4 ай бұрын
Insanely Lucky you get to be friends with Adam Sandler.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
🤣Scotty is a cool dude there's no doubt
@JsGarage4 ай бұрын
Did I miss something? Like no footage of the Raptor R doing the same thing.
@schmeltz4 ай бұрын
Rally mode on the Rivian would have been better than drift. In my experience drift mode just wants to get the rear end kicked out then help you maintain a drift, whereas rally mode will give you power and let you steer with the throttle.
@whodat91984 ай бұрын
He said in the comments already they tried both and rally was actually worse
@johnkiefer13144 ай бұрын
Rally mode is what Rivian designed for the kind of driving you were doing. My experience with Rally mode differs from yours. It powers through turns much better than in Drift.
@whodat91984 ай бұрын
@johnkiefer1314 how fast in mph were you going and what surface?
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Rally mode and drift mode both feel fine at slower speeds and without a lot of sideways action. As soon as the trucks were really crossed up at high speed the truck just shut off torque. I'm sure Rivian programmed it this way for safety, which makes a lot of sense - it's just not fun!
@TroySavary4 ай бұрын
@@whodat9198So he says, with zero proof. Everyone else having a completely different experience says he is full of shit.
@rubicon4wheeler4 ай бұрын
I wish we could have seen how the Raptor R performed too. We only got to see 2/3 of what the video title promised.
@AI-Driven-Entrepreneur4 ай бұрын
The rivian sounds terrible in the cabin vs the cybertruck. Sounds like a e-formula vs a ford ranger
@wikn8r2754 ай бұрын
Steering systems on the cyber truck are awesome. Full send, yeah!!!
@Racing2Learn4 ай бұрын
The video we’ve all been waiting for!
@KrisDelaPena4 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Where can we find the raptor video?
@robp34314 ай бұрын
Scotty's Farm is a destination for fun.
@Turbo.M7774 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved the footage. Made me very jealous of the rally track you have :D
@salvanas7024 ай бұрын
Love the video, new subscriber here. Just got the beast, I didn't know you can drive the CT like that, still learning. Awesome video mate!
@FrntRow4 ай бұрын
This is what it a about. Glad to see it be a truck!
@andrewvercillo62254 ай бұрын
probably should have had that cover rolled up when offroading like that. it just popped out of the track!
@dre4694 ай бұрын
Where is the VS Raptor R. I hate Click Bait titles. I guess I will be selecting don't recommend channel.
@huabamane24 ай бұрын
Yeah wtf is that about
@Saltwaterassassin4 ай бұрын
Same. Trash channel
@DirtJunkie4 ай бұрын
Glad I saw this before watching video. Will also be clicking don't recommend channel.
@scientificapproach65784 ай бұрын
They compared the Raptor at the end, try watching the whole video before you look fullish.
@llJeezusll3 ай бұрын
I think what's very misleading is most of these channels usually compare the cheaper dual motor version of the Cybertruck instead of the tri motor cyberbeast which is the true Cybertruck
@Mrbfgray3 ай бұрын
Impressive private course and excellent driving and commentary.
@angryrabbitproductions16902 ай бұрын
Great video. Nice to see these trucks pushed hard. FYI: @16:50 in the video, you mention that the Rivian pushed sideways in the rear, almost like being donkey kicked. I recently drove the R1S and experienced this exact same thing after speeding up to lane change. I asked the rep about this and he said it is an electronic lane correction feature. It can be jarring if you are not expecting it. He went on to say the feature can be disabled in the settings.
@gittyupalice964 ай бұрын
I've done the same thing with clapped out $500 cars and trucks over the years, its too much fun. Gotta say the gold medal award has to go to the 91 suzuki side kick, and silver medal to the 96 dakota lol both had more air time than a boeing 737 before they broke.
@arkhsm3 ай бұрын
Boeing 737s don't break with air time, but watch out, because parts may fall off !!
@mitchellbarnow17094 ай бұрын
It’s always a party 🎉 on this channel!
@ShaunRF4 ай бұрын
Planning to post pictures of the bent suspension components?
@jamiered71023 ай бұрын
They look the same as all other bent components
@Gallardo66694 ай бұрын
Dang!!!!! Outstanding footage, Exactly what I want to see (about the CT) Great recording, thank you
@carholic-sz3qv4 ай бұрын
why didnt you film the raptor too?! i came here for that
@LaJuanHughes4 ай бұрын
Finding the weak link. New suspension product for those going hard. And the cyber truck will get better
@carholic-sz3qv4 ай бұрын
nope
@GridConnections4 ай бұрын
Very interesting, and great video! Hope to see more comparisons like this soon! Haven't had the chance to push a Rivian, but have seen some other videos where the Rivian's back end does seem to bounce a lot. No one really seems to say much about it and was thinking maybe it was camera perspective versus an actual issue, but guess it is. Also I'm sure the Rivian can improve the power, or at least improve how much power in turns you can give it via OTA, so hope they do!
@GridConnections4 ай бұрын
Was it a dual motor or tri motor cybertruck?
@jeargunky22104 ай бұрын
That was with old software. They fixed that in large part if not completely. It’s funny they show their run in sand mode going over a regular hard dirt and grass road. Why would anybody ever do that?
@GridConnections4 ай бұрын
@@jeargunky2210 It's always worth testing a car's different preset modes on a run. Can sometimes surprise you how the automaker sets it up for other circumstances can actually work well in other terrains or tracks.
@jackylsmith81384 ай бұрын
So the Ford is the only one that didn’t break. Hmmmm. Not surprised.
@SH-ni8sh3 ай бұрын
I didn’t see it doing shit though besides the snippet in the beginning. Click baitish.
@RouterRelatedАй бұрын
The ford's suspension and all will hold up... it will later get a check engine light.. 4x4 fault codes and some more random bs.
@apexhunters56464 ай бұрын
Recent Rivian software updates in 2024.19 have made some big improvements to both the suspension and the traction control - it'd be interesting to see how it does once you update it!
@trottingwolf4 ай бұрын
That part you broke off costs $15 for a new one and is pretty easy to install.
@SolveFixBuild4 ай бұрын
Wow that looks so much fun! How are you guys going to fix the damage?
@CrumResearch4 ай бұрын
Will you guys please drive a Cybertruck RWD on the same course, once the RWD is available? Maybe next year in 2025, we'll see.
@cliffm88464 ай бұрын
As a former Rivian R1T Quad Motor owner, I will choose CYBERBEAST TRIMOTOR CYBERTRUCK any day, period.
@jeysonbanaheneacheampong39304 ай бұрын
The Rivian back camera view of the Cybertruck was awesome 👌. It can of seems like an iron man's Ferious flying on low grounds.😊
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
So cool!
@PhotoHoag4 ай бұрын
Thank you Scotty and Sash
@jigs84374 ай бұрын
That's dope when Cybertruck was following the Rivian it seemed scene out of an action movie
@CAAlvarez6024 ай бұрын
Was the Rivian on the new suspension software that was just released? I heard it makes a massive difference.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
It was not! Just updated though and its very nice to drive on the road now. Big improvements.
@gearanalyzer4 ай бұрын
I’ve had a cyber beast for a few weeks now and can confidently say all of the negative talking points are for views. It rocks and is so comfy
@allenpotts88094 ай бұрын
Did you guys happen to try Rally mode on the Rivian I haven't had it shutting power like that for me. Sand mode is also know to give full power.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
We did try Drift and Rally mode with stability fully off. As soon as it was very sideways or had high G forces - no torque!
@paulbram24 ай бұрын
@@MountainPassPerformance Did you try soft sand mode?
@Eric-xp1kl4 ай бұрын
@@MountainPassPerformance Talk to Rivian as that is not my experience at all.
@jeargunky22104 ай бұрын
@@Eric-xp1klNot mine either. Only too much power if anything in rally mode coming out of corners.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
@@Eric-xp1kl So just text our guide then? 😆 From the contacts we do have, this sounds like normal behaviour when the vehicle is in extreme situations. If you have Rivian engineering contacts, feel free to email us with details as we would be happy to do whatever is possible to keep this truck from cutting power.
@BrandonMeyer16414 ай бұрын
Tesla and Rivian should take note of the damage the trucks experienced in this video. It would be nice for both of these trucks to be even tougher in their future iterations. That being said these guys were absolutely mobbing on private land which is something I suspect very few of these trucks actually experience. A good next test would be to see how these trucks compare in slow speed rock crawling.
@egoequus62634 ай бұрын
My big criticism with CT is that the control arms are not beefy enough for driving like this. This was obvious when the first pictures of the suspension came out. Hopefully Tesla or aftermarket offers some forged versions. CT is really only robust enough for potholes in the current equipment. I was invited to buy one recently, but I passed until they announce the 4 motor, large pack version. Hopefully by then, they fix the durability too.
@jamessmith-yk3sc2 ай бұрын
the upper control arm is rather slender but is very long with lots of leverage may not need to be beefier
@MC-ru1jv4 ай бұрын
Looks hella fun!
@Abebe3454 ай бұрын
Super fun and great place! Thanks.
@jasonbegalke4 ай бұрын
Impressive from the Cybertruck!! Would love to see an EV that can do real off-roading things built on a smaller platform! i.e. Can fit down narrower “Jeep” trails…
@markburmeister46744 ай бұрын
Eventually we will have EVs available in all sizes and types, like we do with internal combustion vehicles.
@cryptoskillz4 ай бұрын
Hell ya, cybertruck for the win
@dstressr1104 ай бұрын
In the Rivian I wonder if rally mode would make a difference? Others used snow mode for a different experience too. The modes really do change the performance and feel of the throttle and suspension. I think it would be interesting to run same course in each of the different mode programs.
@JoshSmithEE3 ай бұрын
Rally mode with TC off. Off-road often limits wheel slip.
@tunjitube174 ай бұрын
Raptor R hybrid would absolutely be awesome. I have a powerboost and it’s absolutely hauls
@TaranJ4 ай бұрын
Driving scenes 1:52 6:08 12:42
@ivan3337774 ай бұрын
And so where was Raptor? Why is it in the title, i don’t see anything besides the first 4 seconds
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
It was in every clip in spirit
@ivan3337774 ай бұрын
@@MountainPassPerformance , I thought cars don't have it. But I guess we are talking about the Raptor, must be different. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Tom-ud8jy4 ай бұрын
The cybertruck bed cover was deployed and the rivians was not. Not a fair damage report unless both are stowed.
@boostav4 ай бұрын
I mean the Rivian one breaks while driving on pavement so...
@coolsquad7428Ай бұрын
@@boostavThey both do 😂😂
@boostavАй бұрын
@@coolsquad7428 No, the one on the Cybertruck is generally reliable, few failures while in normal use.
@coolsquad7428Ай бұрын
@@boostav I see over half of them don't work
@boostavАй бұрын
@@coolsquad7428 Complete nonsense
@USUG04 ай бұрын
subjective feelings are OK. But timing of a lap/stint, including the raptor, would have given a more objective comparison of the trucks' capabilities. Also, should specify what versions of the trucks are there, as there is more than one spec
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
We used the speeds over the jump as well as the speeds through the whoops/g-out as a fair benchmark. The Rivian and Cybertruck both did the jump at 60-61km/h. Scotty doesn't go faster than 62-64km/h with his Raptor on the jump, and the Raptor is bottoming quite hard at that speed. Through the whoops the Raptor is able to go around ~5-8km/h faster with the same bottoming loads - but as you can see from the first clip in the video it's very violent and sends the truck rolling sideways as it bounces through the air. The Cybertruck was the smoothest but both the Cybertruck and Rivian bottom out harder and earlier in the largest compression compared to the Raptor.
@Dave-ei7kk4 ай бұрын
@@MountainPassPerformanceWhich spec CyberTruck did you test? Dual or tri-motor? Not a small detail…
@allenx23084 ай бұрын
Nice!!! Test that cybertruck!
@andrewvercillo62254 ай бұрын
Cybertruck is amazing! love to see an unbiased opinion
@TheJanitor2144 ай бұрын
amazing video, thanks for sharing the specific settings you're driving these with!
@troynoeldner85104 ай бұрын
Lucky bastards, I'm so jealous
@Mrbfgray3 ай бұрын
1st time here--subbed. Nice "work", so to speak. 😀
@Mrbfgray3 ай бұрын
(((only deficit here is a Raptor comparison, lk to see that)))
@Alphaxcentauri0074 ай бұрын
Great video with Adam Sandler
@varietyegg4 ай бұрын
This some real CT testing
@MADMAX73304 ай бұрын
Okay fine, I'll order a Cybertruck
@Story_Teller_Everyone4 ай бұрын
Raptor video separate?
@carholic-sz3qv4 ай бұрын
yeah really it was a boring video tbh! 21 minutes long and no raptor
@Story_Teller_Everyone4 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv I actually thought video was an awesome comparison, they drove those super hard.
@haolsen36074 ай бұрын
Great video, so much fun to see them dancing on the gravel
@bigreadbaron4 ай бұрын
Is that the cyberbeast or awd? Also what rims are on the CT? They look nice
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
Dual Motor! The wheels are our new Mega Terra design - more details here: www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-mega-terra-cybertruck/
@smarticus63844 ай бұрын
At least Cybertruck is consistent. In almost every crazy off-road video I've seen, the CT has parts flying off and taking on some damage. However, it's still quite capable. Maybe there will be some after-market mods in the future to make it an absolute beast.
@stevedrawdy25324 ай бұрын
You mean the parts that the Tesla manual states to remove prior to off-roading?
@smarticus63844 ай бұрын
@@stevedrawdy2532 Maybe. Although it's strange to need to remove that long trim piece next to the vault.
@MountainPassPerformance4 ай бұрын
@@stevedrawdy2532 The front guards were removed. The rear ones are not removable. We re-read the manual to confirm we had not missed something.
@huabamane24 ай бұрын
I got a chance to trial the rivian here in Australia and couldn’t believe the power throttling. Approached some deep sand with some speed to keep up momentum and the car stopped all power and just went into a slow crawl. Didn’t get stuck but was very close to. Absolute no go for me and something that needs to be addressed. we had rivian folks in the car who also didn’t know how to disable it any further
@smallgiant60644 ай бұрын
First video I have seen of really sending any of the EV trucks.
@canieto14 ай бұрын
Great content!
@bbradner784 ай бұрын
That was awesome great video
@jake-ly4 ай бұрын
Wonder how the gen2 motors will feel on the Rivian. Torque response is something they're saying is fixed in the new tri and quad motor. I've definitely felt the lack of torque vectoring on corners offroad like y'all showed... which may be a good thing to not wreck an expensive truck
@jeargunky22104 ай бұрын
Look at what mode they’re in during the test. There is no torque response issue in proper modes for racing. You can see numerous videos of Rivian’s being driven in other modes like rally without this mysterious power loss only these reviewers have ever seen.
@831payaso4 ай бұрын
Imagine all the rock chips and windshield dings for the cybertruck following up that close on a dirt road. It's not mine and it's hurting me.