Serbia's Departed Semiconductor Giant

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Asianometry

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@konstantinub
@konstantinub 2 ай бұрын
Each and every one of us who've grown up in Serbia (or anywhere in ex-Yugoslavia, really) remembers having at least one Ei Niš appliance in their home. From a fellow engineer and a long-time fan and follower of the channel, thanks for covering this topic! Also, huge kudos to mr. Stevan Golubović for preserving the history of our former electronics industry giant; I wasn't even aware of his work prior to watching this video. I will definitely be keeping an eye out for his upcoming book on the subject.
@Mew178
@Mew178 2 ай бұрын
Can confirm here from Croatia. Ei Niš, Končar and Gorenje were everywhere.
@MrtavLadanSutra
@MrtavLadanSutra 2 ай бұрын
Koncar I gorenje.
@Aeroshogun
@Aeroshogun 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m new to this and I’m learning about the impact Serbs have had on the electronic industry. Živela Srbija!
@eusebiosksipolitos2524
@eusebiosksipolitos2524 2 ай бұрын
Please inform me when the book arrive.
@DanasSutra-t8v
@DanasSutra-t8v 2 ай бұрын
​@@Mew178+ Čajavec , Iskra
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ 2 ай бұрын
The RCA1802 was more than powerful enough to run a calculator. Thanks to RCA's Silicon-On-Sapphire manufacturing process, they were manufactured in radiation hardened, space rated versions and were used in several displays in the space shuttles, for operating several satellites, and they've been crashed into both Venus and a moon of Jupiter. NASA and JPL have used quite a number of them.
@steveunderwood3683
@steveunderwood3683 2 ай бұрын
The 1802 is far more powerful than the processors in most calculators. However, it's just a processor chip. It needs a bunch of other chips to form a complete solution. It's rather unsuitable for a calculator, rather than insufficiently powerful.
@predragpejovic611
@predragpejovic611 2 ай бұрын
Stevan G was my student, a great potential. Many thanks for the video, which could not become so good unless Stevan G contributed. Many thanks!
@Burevestnik9M730
@Burevestnik9M730 Ай бұрын
Both you and Stevan are 2nd-Serbians i.e. traitors.
@nikolavasic1947
@nikolavasic1947 2 ай бұрын
Greetings from Nis!
@Broken_robot1986
@Broken_robot1986 2 ай бұрын
Must be Nice, oh nvm
@rjy8960
@rjy8960 2 ай бұрын
I need to visit :) It looks beautiful!
@st.john_one
@st.john_one 2 ай бұрын
thanks Bro! greetings from Poland
@vibetribe52
@vibetribe52 2 ай бұрын
idemo Niiiiiiiiš!
@literallynull
@literallynull 2 ай бұрын
Gotta admit, your town has some great gothic rock scene.
@matijamirkovic9546
@matijamirkovic9546 2 ай бұрын
Nice video! As someone who is from ex-Yugoslavia, I would like to see more video essays like these. Although the industry wasn't very innovative and groundbreaking, the collapse of many industries (mainly in Bosnia and Serbia) is an interesting topic that I would like to see more on this channel. Greetings from Banja Luka, BiH!!
@rcajavus8141
@rcajavus8141 2 ай бұрын
Just story of Digitron Buje a first IC calculator in EUROPE is beyond belief
@dzonikg
@dzonikg 2 ай бұрын
In 1991 industry collapsed in whole ex Yugoslavia,not just Serbia and Bosnia.Simple all companies had some connection with other in ex Yugoslavia and when that braked and add ongoing war ,sanctions it was impossible ,world moved on and cheap imports west and imports from east flooded market and they were just abonded and all mashines just sold for small money
@stormssf8538
@stormssf8538 2 ай бұрын
Only USSR can bring back the glory of the country
@ravenouself4181
@ravenouself4181 2 ай бұрын
"Wasn't very innovative and groundbreaking" a fair bit of yugoslavia's industries were either amongst the first of their kind on a global scale, or were the first of their kind on the balkans as a region.
@CenturionDobrius
@CenturionDobrius 2 ай бұрын
​@@rcajavus8141and the first robotic hand in the world, do not forget🎉
@grchina
@grchina 2 ай бұрын
Damn I didn't expect ei nis to see on your channel,still have their black and white tv at home.Probably still works
@brunonikodemski2420
@brunonikodemski2420 2 ай бұрын
I happen to have a black&white TV with only a two-inch tube, but it has an all-band tuner which is able to go up into the GPS satellite bands. Still useful for odd jobs.
@dzonikg
@dzonikg 2 ай бұрын
I had 27 inch EI Nis Tv in living rom,color with telext and 100 channels ,which was very big for that era ,in my room i had old black white TV which my grandmother gave me and i had commodore 64 connected to it,so when my parent were at work i would connect commodore to Ei Nis TV in living room . But most desired EI Nis product for us teen then was Ei Niš HSR 160 Hi Fi ,you connect to large speakers and terrorize neigbours
@Barbarpapa1
@Barbarpapa1 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations to you that you cover some stories from ex-Yugoslavia, there is a lot more to tell! If we only stay in field of semiconductors (in broad sense), there was not only Ei Niš, but there was also RIZ (Radio Industrija Zagreb) in Croatia, Rudi Čajavec in Bosnia and Hercegovina and Iskra in Slovenia, each of which has interesting story per se. And if we look on computer history, there was a CER line of indigenous mainframes (CER - Cifarski Elektronski Računar -> Numerical Electronic Computer), Digitron Buje (Croatia) which produced first electronic pocket calculator in Europe (DB800 in 1971), Iskra designed a 4 bit microprocessor EMZ-1001 around 1975 and produced it using USA AMI NMOS technology, Iskra-Delta has strong ties to DEC producing DEC compatible minicomputers (in the 80’s) etc, etc, etc…. As mentioned, there is a lot of interesting stories to tell about those times… And the last but not least, in 1984 I got my first computer, Sinclair ZX Spectrum. I used Ei Diplomat B/W tv set as monitor for it. They worked together admirably 👍… Greetings from Slovenia
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
Maybe you skipped in error Lola personal computer designed and produced in Belgrade
@Barbarpapa1
@Barbarpapa1 2 ай бұрын
Actually I didn’t even mentioned yugoslav home computers of that time. This is an exciting chapter too. There was not only Lola, there were also (among others) Galeb and Orao from PEL Varaždin, Secom from Ei and some others but I would certainly put the Galaksija (DIY project authored by Voja Antonić) on the top of that bunch. There was so lot going on back then… As I said, there are really interesting and exciting stories to be told…
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
@@Barbarpapa1 Lola was very interesting project, one could purchase also as DIY kit unlike other as they were selling them as off the shelf product.
@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy
@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy Ай бұрын
Tesla (Serbia) was a electronic giant, even bigger then EU NIS. Seems like not many today even knows or wants to talk about it ... Tesla company still exist today in Belgrade making all sorts of stuff, granted on smaller scale as before. It made the 1st radio and I think 1st TV in Europe too. Or maybe 2nd but yeah they made bunch of stuff and developed everything "in house" when they started. Obviously the name Elektronski Institut i Industrija Nikola Tesla was given in respect to Nikola Tesla. Later shortened to just Tesla. Btw this Tesla company have nothing to do with that clown Elon Musk's company of the same name ... I am also surprised he manage to keep the name too.
@klauszinser
@klauszinser Ай бұрын
@@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy Tesla US nothing to do with Tesla Serbia/Yugoslavia okay. There was also a Tesla in Czechoslovakia. You should not call Mr. Musk a clown.
@_monti142
@_monti142 2 ай бұрын
so many things that Serbia used to produce is never mentioned in schools, a shame
@konstantinub
@konstantinub 2 ай бұрын
Not even in our own universities and engineering schools; a real shame indeed :)
@u2beuser714
@u2beuser714 2 ай бұрын
Zastava arms has ver niche products
@mmdirtyworkz
@mmdirtyworkz 2 ай бұрын
Most of it if not all was during Yugoslavia.
@klauszinser
@klauszinser 2 ай бұрын
@@mmdirtyworkz Maybe he should have said: many things that Yugoslavia used to produce is never mentioned in schools..
@teodordjuric6323
@teodordjuric6323 2 ай бұрын
the more I learn about yugo the more I hate the current government
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ 2 ай бұрын
Ei preamp tubes were the best. Nothing performed like they did in guitar preamps when overdriven. The plate structures were enormous in comparison to others being mae in the 90s, especially in comparisons to the ones out of Chinese factories.
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax 2 ай бұрын
What about the telfunken "smooth plate" ones that cost like 200 bucks a pop
@milosstoiljkovic9505
@milosstoiljkovic9505 2 ай бұрын
I know a guy who is part of the Serbian audophile cult, he spent years looking for parts to reconstruct EI Niš tube-gramophone. He loves it.
@JMantas
@JMantas 2 ай бұрын
@@zaxmaxlax No telefunken in 90s. Ei was the last good/proper manufacturer
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
That is why Chinese are still in business and Ei is gone, over engineering
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 2 ай бұрын
Huh
@VladoT
@VladoT 2 ай бұрын
The most famous and well regarded products of Ei Nis were vacuum tubes that were in production alongside the semiconductors for more than 40 years and are still praised for their quality and reliability but they stop producing them in the 90's.
@James-xt1ic
@James-xt1ic 2 ай бұрын
My father worked with EI Nis in the 70s! He had a telecommunication company in Yugoslavia and one time, he managed to buy out the entire production capacity for a very specific cable used in telephony that year. It got him in trouble with the state because it turned out EI Nis gave a single man a monopoly without being aware of it: even the PTT, the national telecommunications agency, would have to order cables from him from that point on in Zagreb. They ordered him to return the cables back to EI Nis, but he negotiated that he'd return half /and/ make a profit on it. He said that when he came to Nis in his Mercedes, at the time a rare sight in Yugoslavia, they treated him exceptionally well and to all kinds of festivities at night (and I can only imagine the 'negotiations' being done under the influence of a lot of rakija)
@Martinit0
@Martinit0 2 ай бұрын
They accidentally created an exclusive distributor LOL
@NionXenion-gh7rf
@NionXenion-gh7rf 2 ай бұрын
Oligarch
@chronokoks
@chronokoks 2 ай бұрын
I know a few cable guys from the early day and man, alot of them are stinking rich today :D
@dannylo5875
@dannylo5875 2 ай бұрын
Lol 😂
@wpww3343
@wpww3343 2 ай бұрын
Typical.
@DV-dt9sq
@DV-dt9sq 2 ай бұрын
Yugoslavia had quality products. The first pocket calculator in Europe was designed and produced in SFR Yugoslavia. It was a company called Digitron Buje.
@Rio-by1eh
@Rio-by1eh Ай бұрын
It could NOT KEEP UP WITH TAIWAN today Taiwan left Yugoslavia in the dust even though RCA gave both a start
@Milan_M95
@Milan_M95 Ай бұрын
@@Rio-by1eh Ofc bro Yugoslavia fell apart and was unstable since the 90s
@jonpattison
@jonpattison 3 ай бұрын
The die photo of the GEM21 at 14:40 is fascinating. I was doing gate array design in the US at that time.
@grimgoreironhide9985
@grimgoreironhide9985 2 ай бұрын
There is a Serbian company called Mikroelectronica. They are a like high end Arduino type company who sell Compilers and development boards and breakout boards. They do not manufacturer semiconductors but basically produce PCB's.
@JSB2500
@JSB2500 2 ай бұрын
I have had a huge amount of success with their products. The time from concept to product was extremely short with every product I built with their compilers and debugging tools. PIC16 and PIC32 MCUs. Very much slicker than the STM32 and ESP32 eco systems I've used since.
@tomispev
@tomispev 2 ай бұрын
This is such a niche topic.
@gaborszegedy1673
@gaborszegedy1673 Ай бұрын
Good one.
@mrhassell
@mrhassell Ай бұрын
💥flawless. isn't that a beautiful thing.. :)
@ZoranMarkovic-vy9tz
@ZoranMarkovic-vy9tz 2 ай бұрын
Yugoslavia had 6 republics not 8. Also Ei did not have monopoly in tv manufacturing. There were 5 tv set manufacturers in total.
@Drunken_Master
@Drunken_Master 2 ай бұрын
6 republics and two autonomous provinces, therefore 8 local governments.
@Danilo125815
@Danilo125815 2 ай бұрын
@@Drunken_Master the video is wrong because it says 8 republics
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
​@@Drunken_Masteroff course you know always better, are you the german
@boriscangalovic
@boriscangalovic 2 ай бұрын
@@Kartraceonesix repubics is right, its a fact:Six republics and two autonomous provinces
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
@@boriscangalovic western generations were and are brought up on propaganda, very little facts.
@da1otta
@da1otta 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the amazing video. I had a small 12" B/W Ei Niš TV set in my bedroom as a teenager. I used it mainly with my ZX Spectrum. Ah, the nostalgia.
@brankobozic3384
@brankobozic3384 2 ай бұрын
Vacuum tubes produced in EI Nis factory were respected among audiophiles all over the world. Cheap, acceptably reliable and of high sound quality! Even today, many decades after, you can stll find them in ads, sometimes as NOS. Remember when Manley Labs sourced output tubes from EI at some point.
@pickoftheglitter
@pickoftheglitter 2 ай бұрын
I love this channel, is always my first choice on KZbin. Some ideas for future videos (forgive me if you already did it and I didn't realize it): rise and fall of Commodore (quite wild and interesting) - rise and fall of Sinclair - history of microprocessors (from 4004) - rise and fall of Altair (very peculiar)...
@timhorton698
@timhorton698 2 ай бұрын
Us audiophiles growing up in the 80s always dreamt of getting an Ei HiFi140 and matching it with danish dynaudio speakers
@aleksandarmitic54
@aleksandarmitic54 2 ай бұрын
Interesting! I was dreaming about Dynaudio speakers. Having not enough money for something better , I bought HSR 160. There were only two good things to say about it: nice price and size of woofer. I miss fascinating sound of some really big drum on one of Santana's first albums. You can not hear it with small or midsized boxes.
@Milan_M95
@Milan_M95 Ай бұрын
Hey i found one used for 50 euros lol
@Burevestnik9M730
@Burevestnik9M730 Ай бұрын
try dynaudio 1000 speakers with cayin ai265 $80 amplifier
@dzonikg
@dzonikg 2 ай бұрын
My uncle worked in EI Nis factory during Yugoslavia.Then Nis was ritch city off strong middle class much reacher them mine Kragujevac (which produced arms and not so famous Yugo) . His house was 3 story with big terrace on top and all houses in that area are were similarly big . Everone in Yugoslavia had some EI product and they were top quality ,we bought in late 80s almost in same time for our new house EI NIs TV and SAmsung TV ,EI Nis was so much better in every way ,100 chanels,teletext ,big size for that time with 2 big speakers from side ,its first modern looking TV we had .It survived until 2004 with 0 repairs when we finally ditched for flat screen TV .And where is now EI NIs,only walls left and where is Samsug. There is on youtube 15 minute long video off EI Nis factory from 1986 "Šta je to Elektronska industrija Niš - ETVNIŠ86 "
@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy
@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy Ай бұрын
Nevermind Yugo. Crvena Zastava produced and produces military vehicles and amrament, sometimes branch into existing brands like Fiat and Renault as a side job. They make great things, but sure enough the "Yugo" is what everyone is braking with and at ... like its only that produced there ...
@ThePhiphler
@ThePhiphler 2 ай бұрын
A truly sad and mostly unknown victim of the Yugoslav breakup wars is stuff like this, peoples lives work being eradicated as a mere afterthought due to conflict. Loss of life will always be the primary measure of how destructive an armed conflict is, but losing high tech industry like this has negative effects that echo into the future decades.
@Chex1389
@Chex1389 2 ай бұрын
Guys I worked with microchips at Senis, specialy designed smart sensor for measuring magnetic field. Just wow, cheers to these great people which survived collapse of Ei and made their own micro company. 🎉❤
@analogdesigner-Jay
@analogdesigner-Jay 2 ай бұрын
Superbly done video, thanks!
@LandingZone2008
@LandingZone2008 2 ай бұрын
I always thought most of the old electronics we had when I was a kid was manufactured in CCCP, and I got to know that they were from Yugoslavia. Thank you.
@branimirkolarov3493
@branimirkolarov3493 2 ай бұрын
Zavod could also mean plant/factory
@Drunken_Master
@Drunken_Master 2 ай бұрын
In russian yes, in serbian no.
@duncan.o-vic
@duncan.o-vic 2 ай бұрын
more like center/bureau.
@branimirkolarov3493
@branimirkolarov3493 2 ай бұрын
@@Drunken_Master In serbian zavod could also mean plant.
@w0lfgm
@w0lfgm 2 ай бұрын
Also research center with production facility
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
There is no direct translation, cz. even some medical institutions had " zavod" in their titles. Itsa Socialist way ti say " say Enterprise
@schr4nztech
@schr4nztech 2 ай бұрын
Everyone talks about the EI Niš, nobody's talking about Živković Slobodan, the half-man half-farmer who got fired from the Elektronska Industrija
@aleksandarmitic54
@aleksandarmitic54 2 ай бұрын
My late grandfather's neighbor!
@Dorijat
@Dorijat Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/laTCqmSljrGAp6csi=yY85VG1WwtzaI_bN
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 2 ай бұрын
Did Constantine have Knights that say Nis ?
@Sasha-mdib
@Sasha-mdib 2 ай бұрын
Good one 😄
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 2 ай бұрын
​Ignorance is bliss
@zvonkoborko
@zvonkoborko 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@BlackeyeVuk
@BlackeyeVuk 2 ай бұрын
Funny joke, but modern day Nis was called Naissus in Greek/Roman
@vukashin88
@vukashin88 2 ай бұрын
@@BlackeyeVuk Naiss🤙
@xKynOx
@xKynOx 2 ай бұрын
My brother went to Yugoslavia on holiday in the early 80's he said it was really nice.
@andrejparunovic
@andrejparunovic 2 ай бұрын
I like how in all these stories, everyone who goes to Yugo develops a special fondness for it and its people, and also there is just bunch of chaos and mistakes constantly stifling success. The duality of Yugo. PS, the food really is great here in Niš
@matchke1
@matchke1 2 ай бұрын
2:55 заводи is the plural of the word завод, which is a unit of economic activity
@AdvantestInc
@AdvantestInc 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating look at EI Nis’s legacy in the semiconductor industry! This story is a reminder of how critical innovation and adaptability are in tech.
@dejanmilivojevic6284
@dejanmilivojevic6284 2 ай бұрын
JUS as a production standard in former Yugoslavia was made of pick (best) values of German DIN and Russian Gost standards. ( That was mentioned by some professor at our university during the lecture). That meant that all products made following it were of at least solid or very good quality. Some APOLLO project parts were manufactured in Yugoslavia-pneumatic parts as I heard, as well as some tóols from Trebinje factory in the Bosnian Federation. For example, the washing machine made by EI was working in my parent's house for 30 years 1993-2023 !?! It was still working when we replaced it. Guess where to buy such quality these days. TV sets were not fancy but also known for longevity as Renrtgen machines. Some radio sets won the prize for quality in sound and solutions. Only as you mentioned, very bad marketing, some bad management and low international sales as war and the sanctions in the 90' made it's toll. I was very happy to see an honorable mention of Professor Djordje Bošan who was my Physics teacher working at Elektronski Fakultet u Nišu. He was a very kind man and an excellent and interesting lecturer. God let him rest in peace. We are all sad to see the collapses and buyouts of all former big Yugoslavia giants( all over the former country). Now almost all old industries are in the hands of foreigners or collapsed as well as the banking sector. Most former republics, now ''like'' independent'' are governed by corrupt politicians. There is no big difference from land to land. I see this trend happening now in the EUROPE. Watch for a few decades (maybe even years). Big thanks for the effort making this video and big thanks to the colleague who provided photos. Best regards to all good people over the globe from Norway, od naj-Nišlije u Norveskoj. PS. Nećes Kopati!
@Byk37
@Byk37 2 ай бұрын
prijatelju, iskopase na zalost vec na mnogim mestima, kao testiraju, zatrovase vode i prirodu...
@unitedfront9717
@unitedfront9717 2 ай бұрын
Man i love your videos they are so interesting and well researched !
@mrhassell
@mrhassell 2 ай бұрын
Ei Niš, also known as Electronics Industry Niš lol a significant player in the electronics industry, its connection to MEMS/NEMS might not be direct, but I assure you that one exists!
@mrhassell
@mrhassell 2 ай бұрын
Also, during a "wave" of UFO sightings during the 70s, Niš was home to numerous UFO visits and events, with many being recorded and reported but never shown and virtually no record of this fact now exists. One of the pictures in this video, 16:50 showing the bridge and road to Zagreb, shows one in the air.
@fifi23o5
@fifi23o5 2 ай бұрын
Great video, very infirmative. I would like to see one about Iskra, another electronics giant, at least in relative terms.
@chronokoks
@chronokoks 2 ай бұрын
Zavodi is not "labs". Zavody means pluiral of some kind of a business unit that usually produces something - it could be anything. I'm from the ex-czechoslovakia and we also called many of our state businesses "Závody".
@zvonkoborko
@zvonkoborko 2 ай бұрын
In this particular case it means "research facility".
@pathfinder2reality
@pathfinder2reality 2 ай бұрын
All ex-Yugoslavian republics were thoroughly deindustrialized. All our factories were bought by western companies, then closed. Workers were fired and tools and machines sold to scraps. Everything was done for all of us to become dependent on western imports without any serious production of our own. The same fate happened to EI NIŠ
@mirko1989
@mirko1989 2 ай бұрын
We did that , or at least we let our politicians do that while distracting us with importance of nationality , fall of Yugoslavia will go down in history as a great example of stupidity of the masses .
@zexxx2600
@zexxx2600 2 ай бұрын
@@mirko1989 Not at all. It will go down in history as stupidity of croats and slovenes. When they stay eu dumpster and cheap labor source and we continue developing our own way, with all so called ''blocks'' east and west alike.
@gloopdogg1145
@gloopdogg1145 Ай бұрын
Pises gluposti,velika vecina nije imala veze sa zapadom vec je bila domaca
@WagnerGroup-iy6gr
@WagnerGroup-iy6gr Ай бұрын
@dQuasi2 pa rudnik zlata je poslovao negativno pa sad muka jer kinezi prave pare
@DacLMK
@DacLMK Ай бұрын
True. Very very true. In Macedonia we used to have huge factories that produced steel, iron, buses, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, textiles and other products throughout the country. Now most of it is gone or in way smaller capacity, thanks to the huge mismanagement and corruption done in the transition period.
@txn4yt7mc5
@txn4yt7mc5 2 ай бұрын
It's crazy how much Eastern Europe has regressed in most fields since 1990
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman 2 ай бұрын
not just crazy, but also sad. The civil wars haven't helped, nor the ethnic cleansing and religious cleansing aspects causing them...
@sneckotheveggieavenger9380
@sneckotheveggieavenger9380 2 ай бұрын
It is to be expected when an entirely new economic system was implemented. They all started again from bottom up
@TheDukeGreat
@TheDukeGreat 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the most capable ones went on to support US & Canada's efforts in these fields
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 2 ай бұрын
Eastern Europe is mostly on the rise again most of these countries only had their own industry because they were forced to do everything themselves
@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5
@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5 2 ай бұрын
Cheap Chinese and Korean tech killed electronic industry everywhere in Europe.
@m333x
@m333x 2 ай бұрын
Great video, but the premises of EI are not abandoned. Most of it is now smaller manufacturing businesses and retail space plus office buildings and coworking space. When it’s rush hour, you can expect traffic inside the factory
@feketetv
@feketetv 2 ай бұрын
How do you crank these out this fast? Do you have a team? Were you saving these up? How? Your output is insane lately. Don't overwork yourself bro.
@w0lfgm
@w0lfgm 2 ай бұрын
Zavod mean research facility with production. Morava is comon river name/brand in Serbia. There is South, West and Great Morava. Just Morava is river in Czech Republic, but Serbians like to cut South, West or Great.č
@miroslavzivanovic1209
@miroslavzivanovic1209 Ай бұрын
Stevan G is a legend! Cheers from SM
@Airatgl
@Airatgl 2 ай бұрын
Nis is really nice city! There is a nice museum with old electronics in the Science and Technology Park. There is also some electronics companies working here.
@penzlic
@penzlic 2 ай бұрын
While being largest, Ei Niš wasn't only electronic manifacturer in Yugoslavia. Rudi Čajavec from Banja Luka (Bosnia&Herzegovina) was probably second, by production of household appliances, together with Slovenian Iskra and Gorenje. Thing about electronic industries in Yugoslavia is that civilian production was merely just side quest, most of production was either for military or specialized. For example Pretis from Sarajevo was known for their express cookers and licensed built NSU motorcycles, but real deal was weapon production.
@nareshjoshi123
@nareshjoshi123 Ай бұрын
since long back i am watching your investigative journalisam in key point technolgy revolution rise and fall of cutting age technolgy awesome to make such documentry you made i congrates to you for your meticulosy verstile nature of your investigative documantiation of technlogy revolution always remebr you thanking you lots of love from india prverb for your motivation sprit rome was not bulit in a day german proverb craftmanship stand over the gold , your documentory gives me leran more , thanking you from india lots of love
@pomodorino1766
@pomodorino1766 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks so much!
@steveunderwood3683
@steveunderwood3683 2 ай бұрын
The Slovenian electronics company engineers in Western Europe knew really well feom the 1970s on is Iskra. Their components had a real impact, when little from behind the iron curtain did.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
They had the advantage of being on the periphery of the Soviet empire so could maintain links and gain advantages with the free West.
@tzoa4443
@tzoa4443 2 ай бұрын
@@obsidianjane4413 Free west? xD
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
@@tzoa4443 That you think that only means you are ignorant.
@tzoa4443
@tzoa4443 2 ай бұрын
@@obsidianjane4413 It's literally exactly the opposite. But I won't get into serious topics because of a bad joke like the one you told.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
@@tzoa4443 Good because I don't argue with commiekiddies either.
@gordoncordon9779
@gordoncordon9779 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking "Man I grew up in Serbia, never heard of Ei Niš" and then I saw the logo, instant nostalgia.
@_monti142
@_monti142 2 ай бұрын
what a diaster i cannot belive the self inflicted damage that was done by the goverment, not even germans where this capable of destroying an enconomy
@nikolaforzane2285
@nikolaforzane2285 2 ай бұрын
" self inflicted damage " 👎
@dimitrijekrstic7567
@dimitrijekrstic7567 2 ай бұрын
​@@nikolaforzane2285it's true. You can blame whoever you wanna blame, it's ultimately our own fault.
@Durante_di_Alighiero
@Durante_di_Alighiero 2 ай бұрын
@@dimitrijekrstic7567 Yeah, we imposed sanction on ourselves 🤣
@Tomislavr7
@Tomislavr7 Ай бұрын
The economy was destroyed by the price of oil (Yugoslavia was heavily dependent on importing oil) and later the sanctions, that both destabilized the whole country, as well. Not by people being evil like in some cartoons that you believe from all of the propaganda.
@mustafanaser9789
@mustafanaser9789 Ай бұрын
​@@dimitrijekrstic7567sanctions and wars are done to destroy entire nations. That is why Syria or Iraq or Libya with promising futures were destroyed. Libya even had Western living Standards before NATO decides to bring democracy
@harryniedecken5321
@harryniedecken5321 2 ай бұрын
Reality is that essentially all semiconductor mfg in the world exists today due to government subsidies. It's a tough business.
@onionjedi
@onionjedi 2 ай бұрын
My grandfather was one of the engineers who worked on patents and projects for Ei Nish. He projected and patent many electricity conductors as well as power transformers which are still in use in Macedonia, for instance.
@Matt2010
@Matt2010 2 ай бұрын
Heh, That Yugo car. My dad in MN had one of those, until it totally broke down in the 90s. So Yea I'm laughing. lol
@veljko100able
@veljko100able 2 ай бұрын
Although the fate of the country as well as the company Ei Nis was not fortunate, the spirit of the city still persists. Across Nis now there are multiple small to medium sized companies that develop hardware and semiconductors, mostly as a contractors for other tech giants but nevertheless. Because of the Faculty of Electronic Engineering there is a lot hardware engineers in the city working on various projects. I am one of the engineers working in small company developing semiconductors for large tech giants. I know this is not the same as having full industrial complex in the city with a lot of talented people working, it is still something and I believe there is still a lot of unutilized talent here that maybe one day can be turned into something big! Thanks for the video.
@aryehyehudahajzenberg9503
@aryehyehudahajzenberg9503 2 ай бұрын
As usual, Jon, there is no need to praise your work ! YOU ARE SIMPLY THE BEST ! PERIOD ! MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS !
@Saavik256
@Saavik256 2 ай бұрын
I remember their Lira 512 computer from back in the day.
@milosstoiljkovic9505
@milosstoiljkovic9505 2 ай бұрын
It was a partnership with Olivetti, I think. We had couple of those at school.
@glacialimpala
@glacialimpala 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was enough info to make a video about DMB - FTMT (factory of turbo motors and transmissions), they made parts for Rolls Royce, Boeing, and also for Ariana rocket! It was located in Belgrade. Now it operates as a logistics center and cosmetics factory for Lilly Drogerie/Kompresor.
@clintcowan9424
@clintcowan9424 2 ай бұрын
Excellent as always
@DonHrvato
@DonHrvato 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this story, didnt knew this.
@Ni-qc6yq
@Ni-qc6yq 2 ай бұрын
A Serbian Node. A film that will shock you.
@jm036
@jm036 2 ай бұрын
LMAO
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
The breakup of Yugoslavia and decent into chaos and mediocrity of all the constituent groups is such a tragedy on so many levels.
@Janezslovenski
@Janezslovenski 2 ай бұрын
Most of the residents here wouldn't agree with you.
@xmj6830
@xmj6830 2 ай бұрын
@@Janezslovenski Mediocrity is the right word whether you accept it or not. I would add hatred and racism played a big role.
@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5
@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5 2 ай бұрын
​@@xmj6830well, Socialism is death
@Janezslovenski
@Janezslovenski 2 ай бұрын
@@xmj6830 I meant that it's not seen as a tragedy for the citizens of the new nations. People voted for breakup for a reason. And Yugoslavia was already mediocre at best, subpar most of the time beforehand.
@kresobilan1899
@kresobilan1899 2 ай бұрын
There was no breakup. Serbs attacked Croatia, and never paid war reparations.
@Milos89kv
@Milos89kv 2 ай бұрын
Not enough emphasis is put on 1974 constitution. 2 years before that complete Serbian and Croatian top goverment organization was dismantled, and in this new constitution every nationality got a republic, except Serbia that was divided into autonomous provinces. A real mess of a constitution that announced end of Yugoslavia. One can only speculate what was going on behind the curtain as Tito was not as much in control as before. On Ei note, I visited in 2011. It is an enormous complex that is now divided into smaller pieces that small businesses bought or rent. There is even one small semiconductor business that makes some sort electronic assemblies, I think it used to be called Tagor, but recently company from abroad bought it and now it is called Qualis. It is far from glory days, but it gives hope that some industry still survives there.
@InfinityFnatic
@InfinityFnatic 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video!
@tonis864
@tonis864 2 ай бұрын
Very good Sir
@msylvain59
@msylvain59 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, vintage Ei brand TV sets still pop up from time to time in fleamarkets here in France, and I have some of their electronic componants in my pile of weird stuff
@lukeonuke
@lukeonuke 2 ай бұрын
Serbia mentioned! Greetings from србија.
@AfrimBlleki-p1d
@AfrimBlleki-p1d 2 ай бұрын
Serbia permendet por permendet per genocide !
@jobrock1079
@jobrock1079 2 ай бұрын
@@AfrimBlleki-p1d The census shows there was no "genocide" on the media hyped "victims" who actually gained percentage during the wars and it is they who have the most ethnically cleansed statelets and cities.
@bUwUmer1260
@bUwUmer1260 2 ай бұрын
From USA. I mourn for our lost industries in the Americas, Western, and Eastern europe.
@nebojsajeremic7403
@nebojsajeremic7403 2 ай бұрын
I love seeing Yugoslav companies and production being explored in depth on KZbin I am from Serbia and while I know we used to produce so many things I never knew quite how big the companies were or what exactly we produced back then. Things like these are not thought to younger generations like mine, nor mentioned too much by adults unless they worked in one of them with passion.
@zutinic
@zutinic 2 ай бұрын
Best regards from Niš!
@Dzerom-on2zh
@Dzerom-on2zh Ай бұрын
I still have my dad's Ei Niš sound system which, according to him, he brought himself from Niš to Podgorica in my grandfather's Yugo. During the years we got more modern speakers from Yamaha, but those old Ei Niš ones still sound better.
@maksimum018
@maksimum018 2 ай бұрын
There were 6 republics and in 1974 Serbia was forced to have two autonomous provinces, Vojvodina and Kosovo & Metohija, while there was no Knin province for Serbs in Croatia. Bombings by NATO were unlawful, they bombed hospitals, civilian trains, bridges and chemical industries, and those responsible were never sent to trial because they are from the west and the rules don't apply to them.
@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5
@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5 2 ай бұрын
What autonomy (which was unlawfully removed in the 1980s) has to do with anything?
@maksimum018
@maksimum018 2 ай бұрын
@@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5 In the video he says there were 8 republics in SFRJ and there never were. Provinces were instituted with the change in the constitution in 1974. and were removed with the amendments in 1989.
@thekraken1173
@thekraken1173 2 ай бұрын
@@maksimum018 So NATO bombing Serbs is unlawful but Serbs ethnically cleansing Bosniaks, Albanians and Croatians is lawful
@thekraken1173
@thekraken1173 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@maksimum018 ​​⁠Shouldn’t have genocided Bosniaks, Kosovars and Croatians. NATO bombing was a reaction.
@maksimum018
@maksimum018 2 ай бұрын
@@thekraken1173 Yeah, yeah, sure, that's the reason they bombed us. Serbs died as much as the rest in those 90's wars. And there were genocides against Serb population but nobody's going to acknowledge that because Serbs are "villains" in the media and that's the only thing that's important. Yugoslavia was a sovereign recognized country and then a much stronger enemy started a war without the approval of the UN and took a part of the country and declared it independent, sounds familiar maybe? It's the same thing as Ukraine and Russia, but *Kosovo is "independent" and Crimea is not. The west thinks the rules don't apply to them.
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 Ай бұрын
Yugoslavia as a country was amazing. I remember years ago looking at quality wood furniture at Sears and noticed a Made in Yugoslavia stamped underneath.
@KolyaNadj
@KolyaNadj 2 ай бұрын
Pozdrav za Stevana G.
@poremechen
@poremechen 2 ай бұрын
Same story and MO for all industries on Balkan. Yugoslav wars were deliberate and successful attack from the West to plunder people of this region. Manny lack in depth interdisciplinar knowledge to recognize that and result will persist. Some nations may even disapier by the end of century as a result.
@AlexM-t6h
@AlexM-t6h Ай бұрын
Over 90 factories in Serbia alone had closed since 1991 - when Yugoslavia collapsed. The loss of a common market, inability to change from Socialism to Capitalism, criminal privatizations, sanctions and hyperinflation during the 1990s, inability to stay competitive on the market, mismanagement (sometimes even on purpose so that the company could be sold to someone), etc... all contributed to the closure of once successful companies.
@jurepecar9092
@jurepecar9092 2 ай бұрын
What a trip down the memory lane :) ... Maybe you'd also be interested in covering a story of Iskra Delta and their deal with Digital?
@aurelije
@aurelije 2 ай бұрын
And how they leaked USA chips to GDR when it was technology forbidden to be sold to Warsaw packt countries. Robotron/Stasi was happy
@swaruppaul6014
@swaruppaul6014 2 ай бұрын
Dear asinometry😊😊 it is your 500th comment can you please make a video on the history of sensors and the companies responsible to make it happen and it's importance in the modern technology .currently I m unable to buy a coffee but may be some day we will share a table brother😅
@DanThomas1161
@DanThomas1161 2 ай бұрын
There are another 3 (also as iconic) signature electronic companies from ex Yougoslavia which were identical or analogous to Ei Niš, these are: 'RIZ' from Zagreb, Croatia 'Rudi Čajavec' from Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina 'Iskra' from Ljubljana, Slovenia
@jamesrobinson9176
@jamesrobinson9176 Ай бұрын
Ei is a name of great renown among hifi enthusiasts.
@adrianhutu
@adrianhutu 2 ай бұрын
thank you for the video. as a Romanian boomer, I suggest you investigate the story of Romanian semiconductors industry in the eighties. pretty interesting. I could help in the research.
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 2 ай бұрын
Have to say: Tito has died in the age of 88, in 1980. After his death, it has been launched scenario for dismantling Yugoslavia. Loans has to be oayed off in increased rate, simultaneously every other investment in Yugoslavia has been stopped. In that situation, every available goods including food has to be exported, to the level of exaustion of domestic market. We had not enough bread, flour, milk , coffee, petrol, almost nothing in stores. And, that was big reason for making civil war.
@jobrock1079
@jobrock1079 2 ай бұрын
Actually the Tito government made changed in the constitution in 1974 which helped set Yugoslavia on a path to break up.
@egmedicus
@egmedicus Ай бұрын
I use to study in Nis. It was a very nice time.❤
@ras573
@ras573 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting story. Thanks for the video. 👍
@orion310591RS
@orion310591RS 2 ай бұрын
I was confused how well and precisely prepared this video is, but later turned out you had insiders :D Anyhow we thank Stevan G for his time and effort, to make information available worldwide.
@josecapurro
@josecapurro 2 ай бұрын
Paraguay mentioned!
@aleksandarmitic54
@aleksandarmitic54 2 ай бұрын
I am from Nish and I did not know this. It is shame on Serbia that we never have made such well detailed documentary on this topic. By the way, I was one of prof. Boshan's students.
@GeFlixes
@GeFlixes 2 ай бұрын
13:35 The Dutch picture text roughly translated into English:" Interieur of the chip factory in Nijmegen, from Philliphs; colloqually also called "The Cathedral". New generation chips have been produced for the here pictured apparatus for phone calls. TV and a computer are integrated. In the foreground there is a specialised worker in protective clothing. The American Qualcom has bought up the factory (which produced under the name NXP Semicunductors since 2006) in 2016. The factory wasn't in the ownership of Philips at that point.
@bubili10000
@bubili10000 Ай бұрын
Id love to see you cover Sloboda factory complex history.
@perunthegreat554
@perunthegreat554 Ай бұрын
I had EI Nis computer PECOM 64 in the style of Commodore 64 . Now we only produce cables. It is political not up to what people can do but what global power decided what we can or can't do.
@nzoomed
@nzoomed Ай бұрын
Ei Nis made vacuum tubes and their equipment was saved after closure and mad made its way to the UK where the great british valve project is using it to make valves again.
@Filip-ew9et
@Filip-ew9et 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video
@dajgorolabinac
@dajgorolabinac 2 ай бұрын
I listened this video from an amplifier with EI tubes and transformers and also speakers with EI drivers. Its just the setup I usually have my bedroom. 😅
@Kyzyl_Tuva
@Kyzyl_Tuva 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Stevan
@perunthegreat554
@perunthegreat554 Ай бұрын
First AI robotic autonomous hand was made in Belgrade, Serbia in 1964 than in 1972 something even more advanced.
@jobrock1079
@jobrock1079 Ай бұрын
The Belgrade Hand
@damonkowarsky
@damonkowarsky 2 ай бұрын
Niš is a great city - thanks for this history!
@afrosrb7828
@afrosrb7828 Ай бұрын
A little hint: If _NIŠ_ is pronounced _NĪSH,_ as you can see the letter _Š_ (S+v above it) is like _SH_ in English _WASH._ So it's not possible that the letter _S_ would be the same. It remains _S_ like in _SEE,_ hence the letter _S_ in _INDUSTRIJSKI_ is pronounced like that
@stockholmsyndrome7920
@stockholmsyndrome7920 2 ай бұрын
Today the Ei complex in Niš is in a very peculiar spot. The old building has been semi renovated and now houses mostly small logistical companies and office spaces for many companies. One of the buildings has been totally repurposed to be a private university and another building is a furniture megastore. At this point the only thing standing unchanged is the building of the state owned trade high school. At this point it looks like corpse that became a house for small animals that are now living in its body
@soichirohonda267
@soichirohonda267 Ай бұрын
Just fenomenal
@kludgeaudio
@kludgeaudio 2 ай бұрын
Picture at 4:16 of "activation" is likely an image of a burn-in rack with the operator preparing to fire the getters on the tubes to spray alkaline metals on the inside of the envelope to remove the last bit of gas.
@dimitrisrbinoski6112
@dimitrisrbinoski6112 2 ай бұрын
My family still uses a TV set from Ei Niš produced in 89‘
@tihomirvukovic1499
@tihomirvukovic1499 2 ай бұрын
wow i learned a lot !ty
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