Serena P. on Living with Joe's Ex, Kendall

Serena P., fan favorite from Matt James' season, joins Mike and Bryan to share how she's feeling about everything that went down on “Bachelor in Paradise.” This woman has been through a lot! She details how she got through living with Kendall while in a relationship with Joe, her admiration for how Joe handled the “Paradise” drama and what attracted her to him. Then, Serena talks about the Brendan and Pieper drama and reveals where she stands now with the former “Bachelor 25” castmate, Pieper.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss Aaron and Ivan's “Paradise” beef and the importance of communicating in a relationship.
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[@colonhyphenbracket3]

I’ve been saying “Serena is so lucky to have Joe” but now I’m thinking “Joe is so lucky to have Serena.” I love her energy! They’re so lucky to have found each other. Rooting for them!

[@YoutubeSun1]

So true luv, so true! I pray the best for them both!🙏🏼♥️♥️♥️🙌🏼💯

[@priyarose3817]

My thoughts exactly! & lowkey, how many women can be so understanding towards Kendall and genuinely supportive of Joe? You can tell she was barely thinking of herself or making it about her because she truly loves this man & was focused on comforting him.

[@mariarohmer2374]

I always thought it was Joe who won the lotto. She is a total catch.

[@annielawn9531]

My favorite thing about this interview is how Serena didn’t bash Kendall for coming to the beach and said she deserved to be there as much as anyone else! It’s refreshing to see someone actually have empathy for Kendall and shows how mature she really is.

[@taylorgonci1374]

Amazing and Kendall didn’t bash Serena in her interview either.

[@annielawn9531]

@@taylorgonci1374 Yes! I loved that interview as well. Both Kendall and Serena are class acts and I loved seeing them both show that women can support other women.

[@kansasgirl8371]

We're all talking about how mature Serena is but, more than that, she's intelligent, poised and has great depth and substance. Big things ahead for her. Love her and Joe together. Thank you Bryan and Mike for another great podcast!

[@kl1290]

Very true! I hope that people will show Serena and Joe a lot of support as a couple going forward since I've seen some negativity already about their age gap. As you noted, Serena is mature and also has great depth and substance as a person. Joe and Serena also seem to be very willing to put in the work to make the relationship successful and I'm wishing them all the happiness for their future together.

[@priyarose3817]

At the beginning of this season, I had a tv crush on Joe. Im now totally in love with Serena and she has my whole heart! Joe and Serena are so amazing together and I wish them all of the happiness and a wonderful future.

[@Imandria]

The difference is, Serena and Joe are adults who were there to find a relationship. The others are children who are looking for their 15 seconds of fame to keep stretching.

[@marics96]

She is so well spoken and charming you can't help but smile the whole time!! Can totally see why Joe fell for her and I think she is exactly what he needs, a woman willing to make the relationship work. She seems so in love and I'm so happy for them, cheering them on!!

[@karenhalliburton7402]

She should be well spoken, she's a grown woman.

[@rocknroam4]

She’s so mature and well spoken. I wish I was like that at 24! She has a good head on her shoulders. Joe and her are lucky to have found each other.

[@heathernewbold406]

Serena is very mature for her age, and I'm glad that Mike asked the question about logistics because we (the audience) have been wondering about it. It sounds like Serena and Joe are open to compromise. I hope that they make their relationship work long term!

[@geraldinewinfrey1345]

I love Serena, she is a class act, she has a very good head on her shoulder, she has respect, for herself, and that's what I like about her!!

[@VTH599]

I love the way Serena handled the situations she was faced with in paradise and how grounded she seems to be.

[@marciatucker5171]

I hope the Bach "stars" all learn from this remarkable couple, Serena and Joe. Maturity is so underrated!

[@vejensen103]

Well, I think it is safe to say Mike is smitten 😍 She seems like a great person and I wish her and Joe a bright future.

[@YoutubeSun1]

Whoever the person is who broke Serena’s heart before, I hope you are well. I hope good things for you, and I’m sorry you weren’t able to see Serena for the gem she obviously is. Be well. To Joe and Serena: My truest deepest wishes and prayers for BOTH of y’all’s happiness🙏🏼♥️🙌🏼💯

[@claudettegill8400]

So proud of Serena. She is very articulate, and knows exactly what she wants. I wish her and Joe all love and blessings, and hope they get married. This was an excellent opportunity to really see who she is as a person as compared to her stint on Bachelor.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💕

[@bridja1720]

Serena gives everyone hope that there are super amazing people in this world like her. This is why we are smiling so much listening to her talk. She is really amazing smart and articulate. She knows who she is . People please take advise from her.

[@TTNBear]

She answered that Logistics question the best way possible! Loved her answer 👏👏👏

[@vang.el8]

I love Serena! She is sooo mature for her age and is REAL! I am rooting for her and Joe’s love!

[@FLOKADO]

Admired Serena P when saw Matt James for who he was. She passed on him not the other way around. Joe is a very lucky man.

[@jean-nee8972]

I also found myself smiling like an idiot watching Joe and Serena on BIP. That 1 on 1 they had and their conversations.. TOO cute!!

[@marlenadonaldson2868]

I admired the way how Serena stayed out of the Brendan/Pieper drama and stood by Natasha after receiving support from her on the beach.

[@ashantigarcia2870]

I think Mike fell in love with Serena during this episode 🤣

[@nasitathorpeedwards2943]

Lol...yep 24:30 and Soo...I see u mike😂😂🤣

[@taylorgonci1374]

Mike also fell in love with Kendal during her interview 🤣 I

[@mariarohmer2374]

She seems to have that effect on a lot of guys. If she had not chosen Joe I think a lot of guys would've zeroed on her.😀

[@daniellap8939]

listening to serena talk about relationships, kendall could learn a thing or two

[@jackiebenjamin8772]

Yes Ivan lied but it takes two to tangles. If Chelsea didn't want him to kiss her, he couldn't, if Alexa didn't want him to enter that room he couldn't. Love Serena's maturity, she understands what it will take for a relationship to work. Great interview as always guys. All blessings to Serena and Joe. 🙏🙏❤❤

[@ashleyjacquot904]

I’m so glad she didn’t trash Kendall. Kendall seems like a great person. She seemed to really be hurting and struggling. It’s just nice to see Serena take this type of Stance. She may be only 24. But she’s def wise and mature beyond her years. Joe is one lucky dude.

[@CUDDLES55]

Serena is what you call a "keeper". Joe don't mess this up. :)

[@rickrumbolt8590]

Wow, what a smart, mature woman! I wish Serena and Joe a lifelong happiness. Serena, you have a great future ahead of you!

[@brendaantunez7797]

I love that y’all put up the whole episodes Like this.

[@jackyc1402]

This podcast with Serena, has been one of my favourites. Oh boy, Serena is one classy lady. She was respectful and acted with grace. I really hope that herself and Joe works out 🌹

[@TTNBear]

I love Bryan and Mike Duo! It's like listening to two older brothers giving us younger siblings some valuable life advices. 👏 Maybe bc they seem to have so much life experiences.

[@luvarobinson3588]

Agreed! They are great listeners and let the guest really shine.

[@maxinecarridice2348]

She is wise beyond her years ,Joe you are a lucky man I can see why you love her ❤ 💕 💖 ♥

[@thandekakhumalo4978]

When Kendell came at the last episode, I thought Joe was going to end things with Serena. Joe being Joe, so loving and caring he kept his word and their love grew strong and they got engaged. I love these two together. Joe is so genuine and him and Serena belong together 🥺🤌❤❤❤❤

[@celiakynoch6937]

That shows her maturity and ready to settle.

[@anniebattaglia1929]

Serena you have the most beautiful smile you light up a room I’m so very happy the you and Joe found each other ... you certainly deserve each other you are a beautiful couple

[@genevasaulsberry7767]

Serena, and Joe are blessed, to have each other. They have good love together. ❤️❤️💕

[@dianef2961]

Mike is crushing on Serena!! 😆 Agree with all the comments, she does Toronto/Canada well! 🇨🇦

[@valeriej-o9270]

Serena is an excellent communicator. Her responses were deep and thoughtful and quite transparent. Her personality is so infectious she appeared to have captured Bryan's and Mike's heart, though not in an inappropriate way. Enjoyed this interview from start to finish.

[@valeriej-o9270]

'hearts'

[@mailnatalie]

What a lovely person Serena is. Have to say this but she is so Canadian! Very proud!

[@maryivelasquez2574]

Shr is so beautiful in and out! They’re both perfect 💕the most perfect couple of bachelor history in my opinion

[@naomifrances7420]

She’s an amazing women and Joe loved it very smart of him to have her ♥️♥️🌹🌹

[@cecilradford9956]

I have to say I really like the two hosts. They are so polite and so respectfull to Serena, who is simply a lovely human being. I fervently hope that Serena and Joe become LIFELONG PARTNERS. I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you for sharing.

[@cherylrain7909]

I'm for Joe and Serena. How could Kendall come back and embarrass herself like that. She had her chance and I guess she didn't want it bad enough!

[@Sara-qw7lc]

Honestly Serena is such a great gal!! Anyone who is with her would be lucky! I honestly didn’t ship her and Joe when I watched the show, but now they look happy, so who am I to judge!

[@shirt1002]

I knew Serena & Joe were both a class act!! Hearing this interview was so refreshing!! Hoping ALL IS WELL for everyone involved in this interview... PS still not following Pieter or Brendan... 😜😜

[@bernicefletcher5096]

Wow! Bryan and Mike, what a great conversation with my Toronto girl Serena. For her to be so matured, smart and way beyond her 23 years. I’m watched her on Matt season and she left bcuz he was not her guy. It all make sense now. Serena, I am so proud of the way you handled Joe’s ex and still have compassion her and understanding for Joe. Age is just a number and would love to see where the relationship goes. Ivan, you are going after the wrong women when you have beautiful Natasha, Serena, Deandra & Taz. Rating this a 5+

[@jragusa1]

All I think of are 2 words for Serena & Joe ~~~~~ 🌹 WISDOM & EMPATHY 🌹~~~~~ very important...

[@YI-mh6nr]

When Mike was spilling the tea about Aaron was clearly edited out. I’m curious what he was saying about him.

[@dianebay6879]

Excellent show!!! They are so perfect together!!!

[@melissamilligan6507]

Another great podcast! I love watching Serena and Joe together. Delish!

[@lorimorris6542]

This is my first time watching...great show! Serena is more mature than me and I'm 46. 😳😂

[@catherineroberts1643]

Hi guys i really enjoyed this interview Serena your are such a class act I wish you Notting but the best

[@nelliek2549]

You guys do a great job on these pods. You two and your chemistry is awesome. Keep it up! 👊👊👊

[@foxyloxy6670]

How you're going to let a WHOLE year pass & see your ex on TV getting very close to some1 then u decide, u want him back as he's being happy w/ some1 else. Kendall has loss her freaking mind.

[@nadinesander5796]

Kendall said she could not bare to see him happy with someone else when they were questioning her and she said it was a year and a half and it was fresh ,,daa

[@komaladvani2568]

yes kendall is quite selfish, she didnt want him to move on n be happy

[@carrieb5711]

Communication if the truth , aides in eliminating the pain of doubt .

[@imscanon]

I think they'll be fine with the distance. It's less than a 2 hr flight for about 100 bucks or a 9 hr drive. Quarantine might make it more difficult as it's another country, but they'll figure it out.

[@suedanoah2983]

Mike and Brian, I love you!!! You're the best!!! Thank you again for the great podcast!!!

[@marlenadonaldson2868]

Saturday, October 2 2021 Thank you for timely information and I admired how Serena conducted herself with entrances of Kendall.

[@reggaemomma1957]

My thing is this...if you tell the truth you don't have to remember what you said.

[@luvarobinson3588]

Facts!!

[@sophiaanderson1530]

Awesome interview loved this . excited to see whats next for Serena.

[@komaladvani2568]

serena is a gem, superb experience just listening to her. what clarity n calm... super impressive..

[@terrywright1513]

Joe and Serena all the way. Kendal needs to move on. She is going to be overstepping. The best and most respectable thing she did was leave. She shouldn't come back with ideas about G.S.Joe.

[@JacquiPoor]

Great show guys!

[@isrberlinerin4063]

I wish Serena and Joe the best . Kendall needs to go on with her life and to leave Joe alone , she had her time with him and she let him go .

[@patriciaann5560]

love Serena, class act all the way!

[@deborahparker7227]

I really like Joe and Serena together. They are both mature and ready for a relationship, unlike some others on that show. Why though does Bryan film in his closet?

[@amyjohnson599]

I don't know what it is but Serena's like effortlessly charming and sweet. Can't understand ppl who think she's immature. Like she's 24...? That's young, she's acting her age lmao and that's fine!

[@jaydecampbell3499]

Yea like in serious situations, she’s so mature and handles herself well and then she can be fully playful and I think it’s important to have that balance for sure

[@amyjohnson599]

@@jaydecampbell3499 Yeah literally! I think what annoys me is that people aren't realizing the age gap the two have. And they're subconsciously thinking she's immature because she's not acting his age, instead of just being herself and being her own age ya know?

[@CDJ831]

Tbh, she’s probably the first 24 yo in B nation that speaks clearly and maturely without saying “like” every 3rd word. she’s young but handles her self very well, and I could understand why Joe is attracted to her, regardless of her age.

[@dyslexiahelpforallages4176]

I think people are used to people in their young 20s being immature. But, many of us were in grad school or getting our PHDs and facing very real life situations. Many are already married. 23 is young, but it's not always a situation where young people are just extended teens, partying, etc.

[@BBuckley719]

Love both of you guys and this was a great interview with Serena P. Just one suggestion for Bryan. Maybe get a couple of room divider type things in the closet to hid the clothes? It looks neat though 😃

[@dfwbambi]

Mike Johnson is so authentic.

[@Lonetress]

I love Serena and Joe.

[@annetnabuyondo7607]

I am thinking he had too much to drink 😂😂😂🍻,I mean Ivan

[@oh_meghann5777]

I am so impressed by Serena, Joe, and Kendall. P.S. The Chelsea kiss happened AFTER he met Alexa. Keeps getting mixed up by a lot of people

[@judyfountaine8291]

Love you both be happy and don't think about Kendall as she needs to move on.

[@lisaloporto6944]

She's so sweet!! 💜

[@veronicaanderson7379]

Serena and Joe are a Beautiful Blessed Couple!

[@Destiny-ps6cs]

Serena was so mature and joe handle it it right way. Safe to say if joe and Serena don't work out. Serena will have guys lining up

[@AngeLEyes8100]

Love Serena. So sweet. Intelligent. & beautiful. I hope joe & her are still together

[@carrieb5711]

Mike's laugh...best

[@ERF5332]

Mike, please let Bryan get his thoughts out.

[@zomendoz8465]

Great interview. Serena seems so genuine and understanding. But...why is Bryan podcasting from his closet? That is so odd.

[@fernandez9644]

He said Rachel had to use the other room basically & he didn’t mind moving for her lol not a big deal

[@nataliechavez8458]

Serena is SUCH a freakin Libra

[@coffeeisgreen]

She's actually a scorpio

[@suedanoah2983]

She's a scorpion but her lunar sign is OX (equivalent to Capricorn)

[@gentlebull7242]

Kendall should go away and assessed herself. She looked so pathetic coming back on the scene again and again.

[@cloclo7717]

Serena is such a 💎

[@cwhiteco]

And cameras, man. Just roll the tape!

[@amykimnguyen1728]

29:45 lol Mike he is just 😍🥰

[@priyarose3817]

Every time Serena answers, Mikes thinking “Damn, Joe is lucky!” I am right there with him. Btw, Mike is such a great man & I hope he finds a woman like Serena. Bryan and Rachel are also a perfect example of it working out in the real world.

[@jean-claudebertrand7125]

She’s Canadian like, no surprise there!

[@gw518]

i find it funny to see two grown mature men talking about this show as if its a really important issue in the world right now..the creased brows while talking about drama from a reality show lololol

[@echance12]

Its always so interesting when a man says things like "oh i like how you handled yourself and not got crazy" that's cool and all but how about normalize not putting women in situations where they have to choose to either be combative or keep their cool.. Not necessarily talking about Joe but just men in general

[@omidaval7494]

I honestly think Cancel Culture has grown so much over the last year & a half. Ivan is a great guy but he made a human mistake while in Quarantine & he may have been setup by producers because producers are very strict about not letting people on the show talk to people outside the show. I think people need to fully open their eyes on Ivan before they go all in & judge him for making a human mistake.

[@cherolson6480]

I couldn’t agree more! BIP can really set u up to “ act out.” We all make mistakes and the BIP environment is really conducive to ill behavior.

[@edbishop3858]

@@cherolson6480 kk

[@mariarohmer2374]

Right on, Matt. Your comments on Ivan. For me it was just such bs for him to blame BIP for his behavior. For real, dude? Come ON. If you want to genuinely meet someone and you're grown up & ready for a real relationship a show isn't going to make you chase every tail until the tail you want comes through the door. He acted like a sad, helpless victim who couldn't help himself by sneaking off with Alexa. Truth is he was scheming the whole time to stay in. He did lead all these women on. He probably would've dumped Jessinia once Alexa came on. He is not a good guy. Grow up Ivan.

[@donnaneck9709]

I love Serena and Joe together as well but based on what she said it makes me wonder if Matt had been on Paradise and they could’ve had the same relationship that her and Joe had with been together every day, not competing for time etc. would’ve been different. Also Mike’s audio was off and it was difficult to hear him.

[@sandraatkins2539]

Frankly, I could never go on the "Bachelorette". I would never feel comfortable, or healthy, being with a man who continually kisses so many women. It remind me of a man with a harem. UGH. I am glad Serena left that tacky show. Now I am concerned about how Michelle will be projected by the producer to millions of people on the screen. Afterall, she still needs to be concerned about her professional reputation.

[@marlenadonaldson2868]

Mike, you are very attractive and I agree that you have time. There are plenty of African American women that are available.

[@coppersulphate002]

Kendall coming back is just plain ole annoying and pathetic ! Imagine if your ex came back while you about to propose to your girlfriend how would you like that??

[@carrieb5711]

I think the producers of the show probably had a lot to do with that.

[@carrieb5711]

It isn't always 50/50! About whether you carry each other in the times that it is not.

[@coppersulphate002]

@@carrieb5711 yeah but still she could have refused of she had any self respect. I think it shows how arrogant Kendall really is. She probably always figured that he was never over her and somehow would try and rekindle things. And she said it herself in one of episodes " I dont want to see him happy..." She doesnt have good intentions for him nor does she respect him. She seems very calculated or manipulative and thought Joe was her play thing.

[@priyarose3817]

@@coppersulphate002 yep! She keeps saying “it’s hard not having you in my life.” Not that she wants to find a way to be with him & build a life together. She is used to being the most important person in his life, who she can flirt with & have as her continued support person. She does not understand boundaries or respect him enough to let him be happy. Her issue may be partly missing Joe, but it seems more like she misses having him love her so much. She can’t understand or accept that his person is now Serena & she is not a factor in his love life.

[@coppersulphate002]

@@priyarose3817 exactly! I would also add that she seems a bit arrogant in that she underestimated that Joe would eventually move on

[@suzee_sibb]

Hey Serena, DO NOT LEAVE OUR GREAT CITY, EXC FOR GOING TO NY. 🇨🇦 BEST OF LUCK. ❤ Suzeq

[@FLo-jc7ig]

""MIKE""...you have to slow DOWN when you talk! I can't understand half of what you're saying!!! Just Chill !!!! ✌️

[@nancybiggs4426]

Is Brian in his closet?

[@milwaukeemotor5995]

Joe will never move to Toronto, so if she's happy to move to New York or Chicago, she's going to be the one who will have to do it because Joe isn't moving anywhere

[@nadinesander5796]

They agreed to move from place to place where ever

[@christinag5090]

Is Bryan in a walk-in closet??

[@sueleed6560]

why is Bryan always in the closet??? LOL

[@lilianreynolds6400]

Guarantee she’ll move south of the border, they always do Canada is never good enough..

[@dyslexiahelpforallages4176]

Kevin and Astrid moved to Canada

[@milwaukeemotor5995]

I think she's too young for him, it just speaks about his maturity level, he's 4 or 5 years away from being 40 and he interested in a 23 year old (is it for the right reasons)

[@nadinesander5796]

My mum and stepdad had 22 years gap and believe you me they had love and a God guided family life filled with love for 30 years till he died in her arms at age 90, I had the best dad and dance partner, no ulterior motive for love

[@tatianaragland4007]

If she marry's Joe she is going to regret it! Shes only 24. She like 12-15 years younger then Joe. Joe will drain her life especially her youth. Joe is taking advantage of her for sure. I hope her partners really step in and try to tell her to wait until her late 20's.

[@normanduke8855]

She's still a child and he's 40. This is perverted.