SERIOUS Warning For Indie Artists That SAMPLE Music!

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Curtiss King TV

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@justin.johnson
@justin.johnson 8 ай бұрын
I got flagged on FB just practicing piano playing MY OWN STUFF. This shit is getting crazy. You can't even try to be original without dealing with BS.
@tyronetate3874
@tyronetate3874 8 ай бұрын
Same here play a Curtis Mayfield Bass riff
@therealajnelson
@therealajnelson 7 ай бұрын
Same.. but guitar
@LowkeyDreadz
@LowkeyDreadz 7 ай бұрын
I posted a song with a beat I made, canceled the audio & kept the video up smh
@djvarangian
@djvarangian 7 ай бұрын
@@LowkeyDreadz SoundCloud flagged a DJ mix I'd posted (whenever I drop below 10min it is risky) however, despite the inferred warnings about trying to appeal for dj mixes, I decided that since I had video recorded of my performance I claimed my "Right Of Introduction" as a 'Performance Artist' in alignment with the UK & World IP Organisations' guidelines; I explained that I held performance licence & purchased download; the audio was streaming only & I could submit the video. To my amazement they Reinstated my Mix. This can only work for a PERFORMANCE... more than once per year per DSP may be tempting fate.
@Zth.iszzz0
@Zth.iszzz0 6 ай бұрын
Man I’m going through the same thing especially with TikTok. At this point I haven’t been sampling anymore. Even when I play something I made up myself I get flagged. I posted my own video (taken down) smh it’s ridiculous
@truetrax2
@truetrax2 8 ай бұрын
HipHop ain’t HipHop without sampling it’s the original recipe
@theybeonbody1309
@theybeonbody1309 8 ай бұрын
Respectfully.
@djvarangian
@djvarangian 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention Electronic Music, House & Drum n Bass use hook samples. That's without even thinking about the one-shot hit samples used to make Techno/Electro. This is all about "Control of Art" imo. It makes people nervous about releasing their Music independently, which will probably stop half from ever trying.
@bushwacka5187
@bushwacka5187 8 ай бұрын
@@theybeonbody1309 Troi Torain, is that you?
@SrChalice
@SrChalice 8 ай бұрын
That's why I don't respect hip hop, especially if it's samples. Sampling is stealing and unoriginal. Go write your own music, it's not hard.
@truetrax2
@truetrax2 8 ай бұрын
@@SrChalice let me guess you’re white lol white trap producer let me guess
@23imansaray
@23imansaray 8 ай бұрын
Prince made the exact same complaint that Jermaine Dupri had about 20 years ago. Prince was upset that Sinead O'Connor was being celebrated for her cover of "Nothing Compares to You", with people saying that it was her song, when it was his song of course.
@afrosymphony8207
@afrosymphony8207 8 ай бұрын
Yes, We shouldnt celebrate whitney houston cause dolly parton originally sang AND wrote i will always love you. Both you and prince are fucking idiots in this regard.
@ChelseaMonet
@ChelseaMonet 8 ай бұрын
I miss Prince 😢
@SrChalice
@SrChalice 8 ай бұрын
I've always hated sampling. It's theft and because it's ripe in hip hop it's accepted. I don't back corporations, but sampling is theft.
@franksbackbaby
@franksbackbaby 8 ай бұрын
​@@SrChalice spoken like a guy who backs corporations for the reason why public enemy doesn't use so much to make a point you're not slick, white boi so uncreative you gotta attack da blax!!1
@안광
@안광 8 ай бұрын
@@SrChalice Sampling isn’t theft. Stealing samples is theft.
@TheRealNativeSun
@TheRealNativeSun 8 ай бұрын
That’s why I still dig in the crates. 😂. I was raised on the art form of sample manipulation. I feel bad for the new generation. Browsing online thru sample packs is crazy. You and ten thousand other people are using that same loop.
@RAPSNINO
@RAPSNINO 8 ай бұрын
✊🏾😂
@ASSman864
@ASSman864 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@Ayofab
@Ayofab 8 ай бұрын
Or just make your melody from scratch lol
@TheGroovezone
@TheGroovezone 8 ай бұрын
Sampling is for music what voyeurism or pornography is for sexuality. You cannot base your experience on other people's production. Instead of being passing waiting for real artist to write original songs to sample, you Betta play instruments and create yourself.
@TheRealNativeSun
@TheRealNativeSun 8 ай бұрын
@@TheGroovezone I actually do both. I create samples from chores riffs and drum progressions. Both can be a creative tool. It’s not about waiting for someone to come along so I can be a parasite. Come on man. It’s a good argument but not good enough.
@farraribeats
@farraribeats 8 ай бұрын
I see so many people selling packs of chopped soul samples from old records. It’s insane😂
@DamnDamariah
@DamnDamariah 8 ай бұрын
Swear like someone chopping a sample with no effects is worth $50 and its not even unknown samples itll be popular songs too i lost a few songs because of this
@3kubeBeats
@3kubeBeats 8 ай бұрын
Bro they dont even name the records they sample from in the packs smh
@CurtissKingTV
@CurtissKingTV 8 ай бұрын
🤦🏽‍♂️ fam them doing that is like stealing a bag of Doritos, crushing the bag, and then selling the crumbs as your own Cheese Dust
@CurtisSmoove
@CurtisSmoove 8 ай бұрын
@@CurtissKingTV 😂😂😂
@farraribeats
@farraribeats 8 ай бұрын
@@CurtissKingTV Fax😂
@jrobjames1
@jrobjames1 8 ай бұрын
If this is true, then that artist who got sued should go and sue the company who sold him the sampled pack, that claimed that the samples were royalty free. That will definitely remedy this issue. I thank God, I was born with this talent, not something that I just picked up off the street as many do today.
@TheColorBlaqk
@TheColorBlaqk 8 ай бұрын
Gotta Shazam your samples before using them producers
@IDMtv
@IDMtv 8 ай бұрын
Good idea. Never thought about that 🤔
@chilisaucecritic
@chilisaucecritic 8 ай бұрын
Exactly it takes like 5 seconds
@peanut6utton
@peanut6utton 8 ай бұрын
of cause ! or better: make your own ,with hardware
@wormsali
@wormsali 8 ай бұрын
Yup. Or the Who Sampled app
@strangerpresents4535
@strangerpresents4535 8 ай бұрын
@@wormsali Same here.....I used to frequent the 'Who Sampled' site, in my case. Never tried the app though. And by the way.......bro, I see you everywhere on the socials. 😂💪🏾
@hannibalwilmetcalf8363
@hannibalwilmetcalf8363 8 ай бұрын
That strategy of uploading music to KZbin and then letting it sit unlisted works!!! I have been doing that method for years and it has saved me so much money and so many heartaches! It's the easiest way to find out whether or not your music has a sample in it that is uncleared or if other producers have used that same sample in the same way. It also works to track loops as well
@ChelseaMonet
@ChelseaMonet 8 ай бұрын
Can you explain more about this?
@Xtronoid
@Xtronoid 8 ай бұрын
@@ChelseaMonet i think he meant to do a kind of 'try first' to see if flaps
@J1hunnitL4E
@J1hunnitL4E 8 ай бұрын
This is some great advice so basically what he saying is let it sit and see if you pick up any type of copyright
@jurassicthunder
@jurassicthunder 8 ай бұрын
​@@ChelseaMonethe means let KZbin find the copyright if it has any
@kicksquadtv
@kicksquadtv 7 ай бұрын
What’s Crazy About That Is I Have A Beat On My Page With A Loop From Looperman In It. Longstory Short I Notice My Analystics Was Doing Numbers I Have Never Seen In My Underground Career Once So Ever 24k+ In Impressions Etc. Like Spotify Artist Apple Artist Etc YT Has KZbin Studio Tell Me Why I End Up Finding Another Producer Who Had The Loop In One Of Their Beat As Well. A Week Or 3 Later My Version Says It’s Copyrighted On My Page But Prior To Seeing The Other Producer’s Version It Never Said Copyrighted Under Mines Until Recently Me Being Honest My Version Is Much More Marketable And Radio/Album/Ep Ready Then The Other Dudes We Have Way Different Styles From One Another 😅But Nonetheless No One Has Contacted Me Either About It From The Loop Maker To That Other Producer I’m Starting To Think The Loopmaker Trying To Sell My Version Or Something Without Discussing My Percentage On Commission As The Composer If Thats The Case Honestly I Myself Personally Never Had The Beat Copyrighted. Most Of The Time It’s 50/50 W:L When You’re Not Buzzing And Going Viral Cause In Most Cases Us Low Tier “Not Quite Established In The Industry” And Still Works A Job Or Hustle Just Want An Upfront Amount Thats Worth Our Effort And Time We Took To Create It Unless We’re Talking Major Placement Opportunities That Money Is A Whole Lot Different From That Leasing/Exclusive Rights MunyuN 😂 Residuals ,Points ,Percentages Co-Producers Loop Makers etc.
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 8 ай бұрын
in a lot of ways it is discouraging but I definitely see the opportunities. I play the piano, guitar, bass, and drums. I am going to start making royalty free sample packs of me playing for the community.
@Mopantsu
@Mopantsu 8 ай бұрын
Until they hit you for a track that has something that sounds like it was from an existing copyrighted track. That's how it's going.
@IGItsTrimanii
@IGItsTrimanii 2 ай бұрын
please
@bdizz19
@bdizz19 8 ай бұрын
That’s why I sample like flying lotus. Research, Rebuild, deconstruct, reverse, re-pitch X10 to create something noones ever heard.
@markus_scott
@markus_scott 8 ай бұрын
Artists are going to go the same route as dispensaries when they first became legal in NYC. You wasn’t able to sell a certain amount only “gifting” was available, sell a t shirt for $10 and “gift” the consumer the album to duck the record labels and samples
@aishine8184
@aishine8184 8 ай бұрын
That's all they gotta do they getting to lazy and greedy I will never clear a sample there are too many ways to get around it
@tesslacoell
@tesslacoell 8 ай бұрын
this isnt true - while its unlikely to attact attention, they can still technically sue
@joechapman8208
@joechapman8208 8 ай бұрын
Giving music away doesn't protect you under copyright law. Copyright holders are less likely to go after you, but they still can (think of all those free game mods taken down by Nintendo and Disney).
@MrARhodes
@MrARhodes 8 ай бұрын
Like making people buy Coupons to redeem for Beer at an Engagement, to avoid "Licensing", etc.
@malekkushimuzik3580
@malekkushimuzik3580 8 ай бұрын
One of the reasons the major corporations bought out so many catalogs of songwriters and producers, is because sampling is the way forward for the masses as they don't actually play instruments. They have cornered the money in the numbers game. If 10,000 fools slip up and sample from any music owned by these corporations, they will make hundreds of millions without having to sign anyone. A few will strike gold over the years and they will collect on the back end. The market is oversaturated anyway. Maybe this isn't the worst thing. We will see over time.
@baqongroup8055
@baqongroup8055 8 ай бұрын
sample culture vs. taking samples and selling shit. 2 different worlds.
@veracityhiphop
@veracityhiphop 8 ай бұрын
From what it looked like is someone made a "sample pack" that the producer used assuming it was created strictly for royalty free sampling. Yet the distributer was being sleazy and used a pre-existing published song from the 80's. Not excusing the bad follow up when it comes to paperwork in business, it just seems this type of scam has gotten pretty prevalent recently. Ignorance and corporate bloodlust being at an all time high. The larger fear I have is that even people that do not sample at all have been getting hit with lawsuits over things such as song "vibes" being similar. Copywrite scanning has people slammed with waves of claims from the likes of UMG etc. Noodle on your guitar or playing some keys and hit a melody progression that songs have used before in any form? Nope! Claimed. You can keep the video up but we take all the revenue. If you want to complain and run a fade we will make sure you end up with a strike too. It's lunacy. There honestly has to be a better way. Copywriter needs to be easier and more streamline so EVERYONE can get their proper cut and make money. I like the concept of what Tracklib is doing on that end. I just hope it becomes more wide scale. I'd rather we all win then all lose to systems created by people not even involved in the music industry.
@mikekeyz9931
@mikekeyz9931 8 ай бұрын
Some may not want to hear this but investing in learning how to play an instrument would help alot… i can make my own samples in different genres then chop those up or play as is if i want to … may take you some time but it will be well worth it
@elonkush8013
@elonkush8013 8 ай бұрын
Facts, I currently pay session artists to replay or interpolate different songs I wanna sample and get them to modify it to the point where I can chop it up and arrange it and it won't trigger a copywrite infringement while still keeping the feel of the sample that inspired me to begin with. I'm working on my keyboard skills now, that one skill set can open up doors and save me money in the long run and allow me to express myself more fully as an artist 🎨 🙌
@ta5393
@ta5393 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I couldn't agree with you more. Learn to create your own music instead of depending on sampling from others.
@rehab101onsw
@rehab101onsw 8 ай бұрын
It is the era of education and tutoring to be an official music entrepreneur. Because going to the library and getting hearsay was a dizzy experience back in the day.
@researchhacker2765
@researchhacker2765 8 ай бұрын
It’s over for talented artists. They own and control everything. Artists must realize there’s an investment interest in record companies and their goal is to capitalize on creativity.
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 7 ай бұрын
Talent will always thrive. AI and sampling copyrights will not affect those who create music people want to hear. The more you sample or lean on other’s work, the more they will put the screws to you.
@Beatz_by_Tp_the_don
@Beatz_by_Tp_the_don 8 ай бұрын
f the industry I'm finna keep sampling till I become a legend
@IFechiMusic
@IFechiMusic 8 ай бұрын
if they sue you,your in the good way,use all the samples guys,, get sued,, thats how you grow,
@OZKitchen
@OZKitchen 8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@milkywaymusic
@milkywaymusic 8 ай бұрын
That's why I only use session musicians to play my melodies or pay them to play random stuff that I can chop and restructure into something dope.
@AngelA-zz8ph
@AngelA-zz8ph 8 ай бұрын
Best comment so far 🤟🔥👍
@Chance-Dean
@Chance-Dean 7 ай бұрын
That's really cool. What site do you use to get in contact with musicians? I play multiple instruments, mainly the piano. I'm trying to get into marketing my talents. Or do you have your own studio they perform in?
@lilredandbunnytracks5164
@lilredandbunnytracks5164 8 ай бұрын
The boat that people repeatedly miss with the Truefuego story is that they reached out to him MULTIPLE times and he DID NOT respond. For those trying to clear samples, if you at least have a PRO search the database to see which publisher you have to contact to clear it. Send them an email. They will eventually respond, you will be given an amount of money it may cost or a range and have to share information about your song as well as an audio file. You will be given warnings about what you can and can't do with the song going forward. ALWAYS assume the beatmaker/producer didn't clear the sample first and search the PDF of your lease to see if anyone else is credited in the samples used area. Make sure your distributor is using soundscan technology to check for samples and to clear whatever you're releasing first. Ours will tell us every time a sample was used and if another artist or composer was involved and what licensing we need to provide them with to go further. Situations like this stem from a lack of due diligence, not dotting i's or crossing t's. If you want to be in the business then learn the business. Learn what you need to do to make money off it or release it legally. ~J. Bunny
@Sybyr
@Sybyr 7 ай бұрын
Nahhh yo, that Pound Town Soul snippet is DEVIOUS on another level, foul nasty work 🫨
@MeltWithU
@MeltWithU 8 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing, did the sample pack company get rights to sell those samples? If not, then it’s on the sample pack company. the thing is, I see people online sampling stuff from commercial music that is copyrighted all of the time. the thing is, without the express written consent and contract with the Artist… It is copyright infringement. whoever owns the rights to that music, is the owner of every beat and every note played and word sung. Whether it be a five or 10 second sample or the entirety of the song… It is still copywritten. Now, in this situation… Where the sample came from a collection that I’m guessing he bought… Then the express written agreement may or may not include commercial replication of those samples. Unless the company who makes the samples has an agreement with the artist who originally wrote the song those samples came from. But again, it would have to allow for those who use the samples to be able to do so in a commercial fashion. Meaning, if their song goes to number one on the charts there would be nothing that Artist could do to sue anybody who uses them. Again, only if there was a clause in the contract that gave anybody who used the samples, the right to use them in a commercial fashion. That’s where it gets sticky. All of this falls on the company who released those samples, but also on the bi-laws that the artist who used those samples agreed to when they bought them. Meaning that there is always fine print that states how the samples can be used. That you agree to when you purchase them. Which is a situation for anybody who uses samples or makes them. Because if you do not have permission from the copyright holders to use the samples, they can sue you. Which they will probably not do unless your song rises up the charts or goes viral like this one did. you have to understand, that artists don’t make that much money from the music anymore. They make it from touring. so, if somebody uses a sample from their music that ends up making that person who used the sample money… then, the artist who wrote the music originally is entitled to a cut. Unless there was an agreement beforehand.
@kriticalmass
@kriticalmass 8 ай бұрын
Well said bruh. Curtis should have covered the responsibility of the sample pack company in this law suit. Like, can Trefuego sue them for not making it clear that the sample pack includes samples from signed artist. I think Tre may have a case, depending on what you highlighted.
@joechapman8208
@joechapman8208 8 ай бұрын
Morally, it should be on the sample company. Legally, it's not; it's on you because you made and released the music, and you can't point a finger at someone else. Maybe they get in trouble too, but it won't save you. Doesn't matter if there was a T & C supplied with the samples or not.
@AwokenEntertainment
@AwokenEntertainment 7 ай бұрын
it's crazy seeing AI morph the music industry in real time..
@nazzz634
@nazzz634 6 ай бұрын
This is not an AI issue. Nothing about AI here what are u talking about?
@lxrdox
@lxrdox 8 ай бұрын
Yall better either wise up and chop to the point where its inrecognisable or stop sampling. They coming for any and everyone.
@QueMusiQ
@QueMusiQ 8 ай бұрын
8:43 same thing happened when Nas started “Oochie Wally” with “I got some freaks in the living room gittin it on, and/they ain’t leaving til -“ yeah. You can’t restate bars of another song. That’s interpolation. You don’t have to clear it, but you WILL owe interpolation royalties. #StudiedMusicLaw
@katyg3873
@katyg3873 8 ай бұрын
The general rule is, is it’s up to the artist or artists label you sell/give your beat to to clear the sample for release. As a producer/beat maker you don’t need to clear anything really. Especially if you’re giving it away for free online.
@CED.Dweller
@CED.Dweller 8 ай бұрын
Texas court? Sony filed in a large-corporation friendly district to make certain that they got a good verdict. Nastier work…
@justlisten1700
@justlisten1700 8 ай бұрын
Good luck 🍀... Musicians keep doing what you doing I'm done
@hernangonzalez8624
@hernangonzalez8624 8 ай бұрын
Speaking from experience, it does slightly fall on an artist to clear samples they use, regardless if they used samples from royalty-free packs like Splice. As a Sound Designer, I always have to confirm clearance when I’m selling packs to clients it’s standard practice. This happens when people try to pass off other’s catalogs as their own and over saturate the market. I’m confused why this is Sonys problem? How did the sample align with a project of theirs? Where’s that thread?
@bentinho
@bentinho 8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was a Sony Music published song the sample was from...
@cruxmind
@cruxmind 8 ай бұрын
Trying to sell an unlicensed sample pack is way different than re-using a sample 😩
@FLAVMEDIA
@FLAVMEDIA 8 ай бұрын
THIS IS THE DOWN FALL FOR US TO START THINKING LIKE THE TERMINATOR A MACHINE:))
@vinny-rebel
@vinny-rebel 7 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO Curtis!! I just realized why Sony was refusing to clear a sample watching this video. You mentioned a workaround to get samples cleared through different websites. Can you hit me up with some links please?
@FonkedUpProductions
@FonkedUpProductions 8 ай бұрын
I'm hip hop, I'm sampling 🤷🏽
@GriffinPoole
@GriffinPoole 8 ай бұрын
the roots is hiphop too & they don't sample, obviously u don't know what hiphop is if u think samplin is what makes it hiphop... same way rappin over a beat doesn't make it hiphop
@FonkedUpProductions
@FonkedUpProductions 8 ай бұрын
@GriffinPoole I agree the roots are hip hop if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. But listen to any of the pioneers when they talk sampling they all say "this is hip hop we gonna sample" from Preem to Pete Rock to DJ Quik. But yes The Roots too are hip hop and they don't sample.
@chilisaucecritic
@chilisaucecritic 8 ай бұрын
​@@FonkedUpProductions I agree my last album was hip hop and I played all the music myself play my own instruments and creating loops by breaking up things I play into 5 second segments
@GriffinPoole
@GriffinPoole 8 ай бұрын
​@@FonkedUpProductions ur basically sayin ur hiphop becuz u sample, there's a BIG difference between u & the pioneers of hiphop... and the 3 ppl u named are all innovators - they've all created a sound all their own & ppl love it , that's what makes em special... do u even know what the fundamentals of hiphop are???
@FonkedUpProductions
@FonkedUpProductions 8 ай бұрын
@GriffinPoole again, if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. You cannot sample and be equally be hip hop and it'll be for the same reason. I know hip hop in and out, do you? And I'm not just talking about rappers, I know hip hop.
@soufpro
@soufpro 8 ай бұрын
It's almost illegal to make beats...🙄
@CurtissKingTV
@CurtissKingTV 8 ай бұрын
🤣 not YET but I HEAR YOU
@samthesomniator
@samthesomniator 8 ай бұрын
Just weeks away from sony claiming copyright for the notes ABCDEFG. And those semitones between them. 😁😂 Deal with it.
@aishine8184
@aishine8184 8 ай бұрын
People are too lazy and greedy like there is no reason to clear a sample with all the ways to get around it it may be slower but I can guarantee it you are gonna eat
@djvarangian
@djvarangian 8 ай бұрын
For Real - The same thing happened with DJ mixing. I've experienced situations & people where they think DJ mixing by default infringes theirs or other's rights! 🤷🏻‍♀️
@IzzyCrazybeats
@IzzyCrazybeats 8 ай бұрын
Bro open the piano roll use them ghost notes be original
@rawwill3
@rawwill3 8 ай бұрын
Bro, I understand. But keep in mind it already happened to traditional painting artist like my self, and I can still paint, maybe not as well as when I was young but I actually do have paintings on my easels. But I get the same feeling from mastering a well constructed prompt for A.I. to create what is in my imagination in seconds. And I can easily have that picture put on canvas and garments. So let's please do as you said and use A.I. to create some of the tunes that previously took us days to produce and use it as samples, I still have to add to it in my DAW anyway. A.I. is the new tool for creative people accept it. It will be here longer than us anyway. Much love Curtis, thanks for all of the lessons.
@monkisethojane2218
@monkisethojane2218 8 ай бұрын
As an person works in the IT industry. I have learned to embrace technology. Because one can be obsolete overnight
@Sadiyyah314
@Sadiyyah314 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, i can see pettiness like this increasing..especially if more artist start going the direct to consumer route. They’re gonna try to find a way to get in our pockets. Disgusting
@Ghost_Text
@Ghost_Text 8 ай бұрын
This is just another sign between this and the streaming wars, social media wars, former big media execs working in youtube etc... that the internet transition into television 2.0 is near completion, and with all the red tape, hurdles and broadcast consolidation that comes with mainstream media.
@OZKitchen
@OZKitchen 8 ай бұрын
So protecting your ip is petty? Ok
@TheAzurefang
@TheAzurefang 8 ай бұрын
Why should you be allowed to sell work that you stole?
@Ghost_Text
@Ghost_Text 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAzurefang if its from an actual royalty free pack they bought a license from a reputable source that should be fine. Consent is established If they lifted straight from copyrighted record w/o licensing and didnt clear it, thats when it can be issue. Or if maker of sample pack just chopped up copyrighted material and deceptively resold as royalty free.
@SoulOfTheSouth
@SoulOfTheSouth 8 ай бұрын
That’s why you gotta chop samples into bits and change the pitch. Make it different than the original. A lot of people always loop samples in their beats and the samples can get recognized. I always stay away from looping.
@OZKitchen
@OZKitchen 8 ай бұрын
They got ai to detect that
@jamesjr2550
@jamesjr2550 8 ай бұрын
​@OZKitchen not if u turn the samples into pads and using them as sound design instruments i take samples and use granular synths to make new sounds
@OZKitchen
@OZKitchen 7 ай бұрын
@jamesjr2550 yeah fair enough if you're just using audio as a source for new sound design you would never get caught anyway
@racksityentertainment
@racksityentertainment 8 ай бұрын
They sue if they see you succeed. 😂
@justinjones2595
@justinjones2595 8 ай бұрын
Yup, its rare they go after anyone not making money
@timwhiteside9971
@timwhiteside9971 7 ай бұрын
would'nt you ?
@donruga627
@donruga627 7 ай бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. They see nobody need them anymore
@RealDealy
@RealDealy 8 ай бұрын
That's why in the old school, we chopped ANY sample, and changed the frequencies. Just cause they SAY it's cool doesn't mean it WILL be cool once the money comes in. It's the music business, you can't trust anyone If you can't prove it's the same sample, can't sue & win!
@cgillsf
@cgillsf 8 ай бұрын
Word!
@jsun7972
@jsun7972 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and then you have people uploading remakes of your beats showing where you got it and what you did to alter it. Snitching basically.
@RealDealy
@RealDealy 8 ай бұрын
@@jsun7972 how would they know for sure? Again, if they can’t prove it’s the same sample they can’t win the case The issue is people want to just loop samples in 2024 like it’s still new when they need to be creative. Looped samples been dead, I don’t respect a producer who just loops samples with drum beats over them like we’re living in 1988
@Hype2k23
@Hype2k23 8 ай бұрын
@@jsun7972😂😂😂😂😂 💯 man all the videos I seen breaking down old songs from the 2000s using samples but you won’t even notice it in the actual beat if it wasn’t for that KZbin video explaining it
@bg4productionsllc
@bg4productionsllc 8 ай бұрын
Lander does what you're talking about as far as checking the songs for samples. I get flagged every now and then, but that's also one of the reasons why I use Landers sample pack and distribution together to streamline that process and save time and energy
@EarthEagleGT
@EarthEagleGT 8 ай бұрын
I don’t agree with Dupree too much cause the industry he spearheaded has screwed over so many artist and the “business” he wants to go back to has never been fair
@Checkmateyourmovemedia
@Checkmateyourmovemedia 8 ай бұрын
It’s all about the LLC people that’s how you keep the legal responsibility from being personal
@jurassicthunder
@jurassicthunder 8 ай бұрын
its just a protection of personal wealth. you'll still get sued no matter what.
@tashynemusic
@tashynemusic 7 ай бұрын
That's crazy. That's why i sample myself from old songs that i did. Im from Texas so on my screwed and chopped hooks or bridges i just sample myself and screw and chop it for a new song if need be. People think it's samples from other Texas artist but it's all me. And i will always sample myself. Looks like i been a step ahead for a while now.
@wormsali
@wormsali 8 ай бұрын
You should use software to check the sample yourself OR just ONLY use samples that have been vetted
@nadispeterson7764
@nadispeterson7764 8 ай бұрын
A good tip for seeing if Ai will pick the sample up is to shazam it once youve flipped it! Done this a few times and seems to work well - Heard this from another producer so thought I'd try too
@Ghost_Text
@Ghost_Text 8 ай бұрын
Stick to Kontakt VSTs I suppose? Another question I got is where does content ID fall in and would the algorithm give false positives for similar sounds?
@rehab101onsw
@rehab101onsw 8 ай бұрын
Just read MBW article - homie didn't get charged because of using the sample, he got charged for not answering the complaint. He had a defense, he just didn't show up to tell on DistroKid.
@Guuu4998
@Guuu4998 8 ай бұрын
Real producers and sample diggers don’t care about what they say
@Xtronoid
@Xtronoid 8 ай бұрын
Kinda but
@ORIGINALDJZERO
@ORIGINALDJZERO 8 ай бұрын
Real producers/artist get shit cleared, and if you don't care that's exactly what they want
@Guuu4998
@Guuu4998 8 ай бұрын
@@ORIGINALDJZERO sample diggers true to crates do not care I promise u
@Guuu4998
@Guuu4998 8 ай бұрын
@@ORIGINALDJZERO that’s y there is a thing called no sample snitching
@blodiaaa6990
@blodiaaa6990 8 ай бұрын
​@@ORIGINALDJZEROI guarantee you Alchemist ain't clearing his samples
@madeinwyomingbeatz6811
@madeinwyomingbeatz6811 8 ай бұрын
Having a detection system for distrokid would be cool. Before you upload any song you have to check a mandatory box saying you own and have the permission to sell and collect royalties for the track. If you dont, dont check the box and upload
@LordHaveMurcielago
@LordHaveMurcielago 8 ай бұрын
6:58 lol @ “damages to Sony” as if some dude uploading a song with an uncleared sample would really effect Sony in any way. They’d still be operating with or without this situation.
@donruga627
@donruga627 7 ай бұрын
It’s more that Sony didn’t have their hands in making the artists so they have to get in your business somehow
@JayFlyMastering
@JayFlyMastering 8 ай бұрын
I’m a engineer and mix and mastering engineer at Sony yes it’s true but only if the song blow up so you have time to get it clear but when it blow up it’s too late
@LighttheCelestial
@LighttheCelestial 8 ай бұрын
Bro this shit is insane as an DIY. The only reason i dont quit is cause i was born like this. This shit sucks more and more daily fr. Just venting. Just venting.
@CampLawry
@CampLawry 8 ай бұрын
Definitely told the class about them packs! I’ll be showing them this
@JayPluss
@JayPluss 8 ай бұрын
So sampling is taboo now, loop packs can't be trusted, Splice is overused, AI is suspicious. Producers are doomed.
@iamveetherhevelaytor
@iamveetherhevelaytor 8 ай бұрын
Excellent commentary bro King. The way that they’re trying to do us as independents feels mighty Skynet like. Can’t get with the AI music apps, definitely prefer that human touch when it comes to the music. Great work as always. Peace!
@goreallaone4492
@goreallaone4492 8 ай бұрын
I loved your expose on her. As young boy it goes without saying I was captivated by her beauty. I hate that the industry and life chewed up and spit out another one!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@Jonnydea
@Jonnydea 8 ай бұрын
It just gives a huge advantage to the top 1% who can clear anything they want
@masons809
@masons809 8 ай бұрын
Right!!! How is an independent artist with limited finances gonna be able to clear a sample?
@2xMint
@2xMint 8 ай бұрын
Just don’t use samples 😂
@Jonnydea
@Jonnydea 8 ай бұрын
@@2xMint I love sampling tracks though lol
@ChelseaMonet
@ChelseaMonet 8 ай бұрын
@@2xMintwhat they are saying I’m pretty sure is like more than HALF of top hits (billboard hits makifn money selling tickets type of artist) are sampled based these days
@yellavelproductions
@yellavelproductions 8 ай бұрын
Most of the time, if the producer plays their cards right, will include in the contract that any samples that need to be cleared is the sole responsibility of the artist who buys the beat. However, when the producer don't even know that it needs to be cleared...that's when it gets f'd up fr..smh
@katyg3873
@katyg3873 8 ай бұрын
This. It falls on the artist/company the artist is with to clear it.
@yoshimutsu
@yoshimutsu 8 ай бұрын
They assume because the sample is old the labels won't pay attention.
@TheTonyTitan
@TheTonyTitan 8 ай бұрын
That pound town soul tho 💯😂
@ditatruth
@ditatruth 7 ай бұрын
Thank god I make my own beats I do like samples tho how to you manage to make money with no streaming is it like creating your own platform or just selling it direct mp3
@donnytheflow
@donnytheflow 8 ай бұрын
10:08 I think it's a concerted effort to keep labels relevant moving forward. Besides greed, if you could get an indie artist to be afraid of the "scary" process that is navigating the music business, then it continues the allure of the lucrative major label deal in the mind of the indie who couldn't be bothered with the behind the scenes
@Jala_haru
@Jala_haru 8 ай бұрын
The producer probably sampled it from a curated playlist. That song is very famous.
@tofuvisionstudios2877
@tofuvisionstudios2877 8 ай бұрын
i will just dig deeper
@colbyisart
@colbyisart 8 ай бұрын
That is why I love tracklib. Mainly because it is honest and I don't have to worry about things like this. 💯✌🏼🤷🏽
@valdi7777
@valdi7777 8 ай бұрын
I was reading "All you need to know about the music business" and, indeed, as you said, they dont go hard on producers or distributors. For example, producers sometimes take 3 points of the master, and, artists gotta make an initial payment for producing the song. Then, artists gotta recoup their 3 percent before earning something.
@Shazzyhtown
@Shazzyhtown 8 ай бұрын
Might be time for some of us to pick up an instrument possibly. They're clearly threatened by the indie artists and want to eat off of u by any means.
@OZKitchen
@OZKitchen 8 ай бұрын
Good forbid ppl compose the actual music so time consuming
@noaffiliation-x8w
@noaffiliation-x8w 7 ай бұрын
@@OZKitchen Sampling and micro chopping is composing and if you don't think that you know nothing about music mate. I play piano and bass and still choose to sample because of how much i love the art form of sample manipulation. 9th Wonder and other sample based producers run university courses and have spoken at oxford union about sampling.
@TabletClassAct-sc4ro
@TabletClassAct-sc4ro 8 ай бұрын
They can take 90% of my blow up song if it makes me solidified in the industry, now I'm in game and I move smarter on the next songs. Y'all gotta play the game smarter. Don't be afraid to pay your dues bro
@jaypesogottagetit1902
@jaypesogottagetit1902 8 ай бұрын
It’s a good thing that I don’t sample or buy samples packs
@riffmason
@riffmason 6 ай бұрын
Sound is everywhere and it's free we cant be letting these record companies do us like this, I went to the park a while back and there was a guy genuinely sampling the metal gate because it sounded like a horn, everyone knows about the street drummers on pots and pans, All power to people using sample packs if they want to but literally EVERYTHING makes a sound, sound is everywhere like the air we breathe. I'm composing for a videogame, sampled a chef in a restaurant making a ghost noise, don't have to worry about other people using that from a sample pack, it's amazing what you can achieve just going out into the world with a microphone. If the industry is gonna try and move one way, we need to move another really.
@gambitofficial4236
@gambitofficial4236 8 ай бұрын
At the end of the day homie is on the radar and can capitalize off the spotlight. Long as he keeps grinding and putting out quality tunes. Go on tour, merch, etc
@Blizz260
@Blizz260 8 ай бұрын
I grew up in a small town with few other artists, I've created other artists and just changed my voice in the past, once ai came into the picture I started making music AS other artists like "Renlato'" and "Saint CNG" that sounded better doing different styles. recently checked out Udio and have been utilizing it in some very creative ways. its very powerful and I don't wanna get left behind so ima try to use it as much to my advantage as I can.
@nomadnohome
@nomadnohome 8 ай бұрын
What platform do you release music to
@kuandemarco5498
@kuandemarco5498 8 ай бұрын
I'm an early adopter to AI. Great servant but terrible Master. It's not about the magic wand it's magician who makes it happen. The novelty affect the average user may have fun with and make something they like. But the dope stuff will still come from those who put in the work to make it fly. Ai can only emulate swag it can't make it. It's those who are creative that can take these tools and create something next level. Mid Wil be mid and that fire stays lit when that work is put in. And when I say work I'm not excluding ones imagination. Someone may not have the ability to play but they have a lot of dope sh*t they hear in their minds ear. It's all about figuring out what recipe is best for what you gonna serve. Peace!
@mrbinspire
@mrbinspire 8 ай бұрын
ur a legend, thank you for taking the time to put that into words! spoken like a true artist 💯 peace! -Mr B
@SoJesusChristMusic
@SoJesusChristMusic 8 ай бұрын
That’s exactly why I don’t use samples or purchase beats and that’s why I copyright all of my music. I don’t need midi packs or beat packs. I create my own from scratch since 2008
@odenthebankai358
@odenthebankai358 6 ай бұрын
But yet most the older artist from the 90s sampled every Marvin Gaye/ Isley brothers shaka khanand Aretha Franklin but my generation is getting shit on because we sample . Wasn’t hip hop created off sampling
@DEANDREXBENNETT
@DEANDREXBENNETT 8 ай бұрын
Im bought to tap in again so imma start binging your videos again
@Robultrabeatz
@Robultrabeatz 8 ай бұрын
Tracklib all day. Done
@MultifacetsOfDeMarcus
@MultifacetsOfDeMarcus 8 ай бұрын
Sheesh. How are producers like Cookin’ Soul, Metro, Alchemist, etc. able to get their samples approved and uploaded on these types of platforms?
@OnTheHillMediaLLC
@OnTheHillMediaLLC 8 ай бұрын
I think what’s interesting is when the label takes a project from the indie artist that’s not cleared or payed for but there it nobody to represent the artist when it’s time to sue the major labels
@NathanSander777
@NathanSander777 8 ай бұрын
We need to eliminate copyright laws regarding music. It’s slowing down creativity.
@geoffstockton
@geoffstockton 8 ай бұрын
Sampling has always been fun and lots of really cool creative decisions have been made regarding it. That said, it’s always been a really lazy way to make a beat. It’s a whole lot easier than learning how music works to the point where you can establish whatever vibe you’re looking for on your own terms, but it comes at a serious cost. And I’m not even talking law/money. In my opinion, sample packs are for people pretending to produce.
@kingchad7490
@kingchad7490 8 ай бұрын
It’s not fair for the artist 🎤✍🏾📚
@urasenseii
@urasenseii 8 ай бұрын
yes it is.
@Alckemy
@Alckemy 8 ай бұрын
I mean this in the nicest way- and I mean no disrespect to any party here but the hip hop commmunity is pretty behind with getting behind sound design and getting familiar with the renaissance of sampling- resampling. You don’t need to be a sound design wizard, but especially now with ai and insane sample pack controversy, it’s a push to raise the standard and learn to mangle. Learn to mess around with a synth or fiddle with recordings and make your own stuff. You’ll be happier with coming up with new ideas you’d never imagine making in the first place. I’m not here to tell you how to make music but give you solution on how to avoid this problem.
@storexxmuzik
@storexxmuzik 8 ай бұрын
We must stand up as musicians and set boundaries and standards for our Industry
@ellislegato2238
@ellislegato2238 8 ай бұрын
Amazing how songs go platinum on tiktok and never get heard anywhere else in the world, or any other platform
@AngelA-zz8ph
@AngelA-zz8ph 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Now I know I,m not alone or totally dumb
@writesongs
@writesongs 7 ай бұрын
Make your own beats. Create your own stuff
@MellowTheMedicine
@MellowTheMedicine 8 ай бұрын
The easy fix to this is writing your own music. I used to sample all the time, but it made me lazy creatively.
@tofuvisionstudios2877
@tofuvisionstudios2877 8 ай бұрын
Never Never Ever Ever Never will i stop
@D_Tuned
@D_Tuned 8 ай бұрын
Hip hop has been litigious since day one. Rappers Delight had stolen prodution from "Good Times" by Chic. The songwriters Nile Ridger and Bernard Edwards threatened to sue and ended up getting writing credit. At this point its a 45 yr old tradition.
@PupilofSociety
@PupilofSociety 8 ай бұрын
I always thought they scanned for samples.
@QueMusiQ
@QueMusiQ 8 ай бұрын
15:51 my answer: he’s just the newest old guy making the same “old guy” argument in a new era. Old people said the same thing about sampling in the late eighties. “That’s not music!” Or drum machines before that “that’s not real drums” or synthesizer workstations “that’s a toy”, or auto tune “that’s not real music”. The idea is “why does it get to be easier for ‘kids today’? Why, back in MY day, you made a piano out a old shoe! And you had to wear the other one to walk to school up hill both ways even in the summer, and in the summer you had to build the school outta coal and sl*very tears!” Tech makes things easier. But people forget: it also advances expectation. So yes, I now have serviceable emulations of vintage gear which would’ve cost millions of dollars in hardware just 20 years ago. This phone in my hand is 10’s of times more powerful than the custom build I had made when I was a college senior in 97 for three thousand bucks from a summer CBC internship, so imagine what can be had today from a custom build? In 97, you could send in a demo tape that sounded like it was recorded in someone’s A$$, and get offered a deal. Try that now. Since Izotope and Slate and Maschine are assessable to legit anyone, if your 💩 don’t sound like Bernie Grundman and Dr. Dre and QUIK is your blood uncles that owe you a blood debt, and you don’t already have 5 million followers, you not getting to that A list artist level if such a level even exists anymore. Hand em an unsolicited demo cassette made the old fashioned way. SINCE tech makes it easier to do more, you’re EXPECTED to do at least that. AT LEAST. to sign the next Kendrick, you have to show up already BETTER than Kendrick, since the tech is already there. To your point from a previous vid tho? Now you have to sound as good as a K. Dot, but UNIQUE, since you can just ai prompt you something hella K. Dot via a website. However, gone are the days of sample digging. The dudes who be finding the most obscure breaks and loops in thrift stores in overseas non-tourist destinations? That’s done. With Synthplant or whatever, I can take one kick and make a ton of similar ones, layer em, round robin them, and have “sampled” boom bap drums sourced from thin air. Same with some new synth I just heard of that does the same thing with tones. You can reverse engineer synths after you done stemmed it out. So now, everyone can have access to everything imaginable. It’s back to the dopest records being conjured from within, not sample packs or from actual samples. You basically now aren’t tasked with knowing music theory, but you ARE tasked with sampling the library of your own imagination. Oh what must the truth behold from there?
@DaKingsMusic
@DaKingsMusic 8 ай бұрын
Just because you bought a sample pack doesn’t mean you don’t owe royalties. You gotta read the terms
@Ra3dar
@Ra3dar 8 ай бұрын
My substitute for sampling is just flipping midi note's when im trying to get something quick out but other then that i just make my own samples.
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 8 ай бұрын
Use tracklib 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@elonkush8013
@elonkush8013 8 ай бұрын
Tracklib is dope, I just wish they had a bigger library
@BeatsByCed
@BeatsByCed 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@SoulOfTheSouth
@SoulOfTheSouth 8 ай бұрын
@@elonkush8013Me too
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 8 ай бұрын
@@elonkush8013 it’s growing
@DaDonBitterVonWan
@DaDonBitterVonWan 8 ай бұрын
Brodie my bro SlightWorkSaid just told me bout tracklib maybe a week ago
@QueMusiQ
@QueMusiQ 8 ай бұрын
Started making beats AFTER finishing law school and studying all this. While I can sample, I just oversteer and be like “these sample based beats are for fun, I will never ever use em.”
8 ай бұрын
Remember they'll sue you.. Only if it blows.. 1% of a million is better than 100% of nothing.
@chilisaucecritic
@chilisaucecritic 8 ай бұрын
Also I think this should be scary as hell for the beat makers who make "type beats" the way things are going now those dudes are playing with fire.
@freshestinclass763
@freshestinclass763 8 ай бұрын
The age of the replica is over
@chilisaucecritic
@chilisaucecritic 8 ай бұрын
@@freshestinclass763 and the thing is they aren't going to come after you until you've already gone viral and you just started making good money
@michandz3948
@michandz3948 8 ай бұрын
There are a ton of affordable sample clearance and leasing routes nowadays. No need to get sued and if you lease and do paperwork for the lease. Then the liability routes that way
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar 8 ай бұрын
Curtis, this has to STOP! The entertainment industry is all about sharing a piece of the pie. Artists keep crying 😢 over this and that, but the labels, distributors, and production companies and streaming services all are putting out energy to move things forward. The indie or signed artist keep it all is NOT right either. Let's open our eyes. Share, share, share the wealth, and We all WIN. #sidowsobrino
@LionOfKingston
@LionOfKingston 7 ай бұрын
I was about to sample a great. But I withdrew a few days ago. It's better to just go original and fresh
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