Serius Jones vs Lush One in a faceoff over money

[@thebigfactspodcast]

I'm rewatching this right now

[@Redman092000]

Same I remember this from years ago

[@MidTierVillain]

This radio bit will go down in BattleRap History, lmao!

[@anth0nyandrew]

this shit is still hilarious almost 5 years later😂

[@LyricalMurderer1]

I can see exactly what happened now after this interview: Lush booked Jones flights, hotel and agreed to pay the amount that was contractually agreed upon for the battle. At the last minute, Jones' manager wanted a direct flight. Lush obliged and shelled out the extra amount needed. Jones arrived for the battle, checked into the hotel and decided that it was "subpar" and didn't want to stay there. He decided that he would PAY OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET to book a higher-end (read: more expensive) hotel. Now we don't know whether Lush agreed to pay for this or whether there was a limit, but seems like based on the interview, HE AGREED. So to honor his word, Lush does owe Jones the money for the hotel. However, Jones needs to chill the hell out because from what it looks like, he has already been paid for the flight and for PART of the battle. Whatever else is remaining, it was because HE decided that there needed to be a change to what was contractually agreed upon or as the host mentioned the budget for the event may have gotten slashed; both outside Lush's control. We don't even know how expensive the new hotel reservation was? From all we know, it may have been a 5-star hotel! As much as i hate Lush and have always said he was a bad business man, I can see clearly that Jones is such a primadonna, crybaby bitch.

[@sammyj184]

5 years ago it was a classic and it’s a classic today

[@FineAsDesign1]

lush missing the point. doesnt matter if somone was paid 95% of what was agreed cause its not 100% bottom line. How can somone be greedy for wanting what was agreed. No one in the world should take anything less in life to what they're owed.

[@foxxxmoney]

this interview was better than all the battles that night i can't stop laughing

[@sammyj184]

foxxxmoney ahaha ya I know right

[@roslynastwood6786]

Facts!

[@MilwaukeeMisfit909]

No fair having a 2 on 1 battle of Jones & Lush's drug problem vs Lush. 3-0 Jones n Cocaine

[@kweninc]

lmao lmao lol

[@Ggv19128]

😂😂😂👌🏼

[@Goonie856]

**Meth

[@gzptv3654]

Damn this made Lush look bad

[@sammyj184]

Omg I died when jones stayed on the phone and jumped in the convo again... Jones is hilarious

[@AT-ts1se]

lol facts

[@sammyj184]

+A T I had to come back and listen to this again.. 6 months later. Props to serius jones! He's hilarious

[@stanleydouglas3027]

I come back to this at least once a month lmao

[@ghostkilla346]

Stanley wild 100s

[@sammyj184]

+ghostkilla346 same it's so funny - serius is a smooth dude

[@mauricedavis1740]

😆😆😆

[@O.G.G.]

Hell yea...seeing Lush on No Jumper, this don't even sound like him.

[@thatpart]

This is still a fantastic rewatch, all these years later. Some Internet Bloodsports levels of rage. 😂

[@arya721]

I'm trying to understand why lush never denies the coke allegations

[@Trudon]

cos dat nigga is on dat white girl...mary, keisha, molly....arsonal song

[@soullessazrael]

He did a bump of coke during the disaster Cortez battle so it's not really something that he can hide.

[@AMartyrsRecords]

I sold him crack before

[@AMartyrsRecords]

really? If that nigga did I'm gonna sell him some dope

[@lebogangradebe4323]

You're on camera drinking lean 😂😂😂😂😂😂. That part cracks me up

[@teedubb71]

Serius: Yo Lush, did you get shot at the other day? Wing: OH SHIT! lmao!!!

[@AMVRebirth]

That shit came from left field lol

[@highlife503]

Jones Poppin caps

[@kappas6344]

Jones: Alright brother you have a nice safe evening and Merry Christmas to you too. Lush: *Where you at jones*

[@trevness]

Lush kinda sounds like Sean Penns character in Carlitos Way

[@RiversideBando2]

THATS THAT POWDER

[@mus176]

This is a classic moment in afr

[@tswagg504]

Battle rap is a young industry...it's full of a lot of people with no business experience learning it on the fly...things will get better as the major leagues learn from their mistakes and find better ways to operate........ One thing is for sure, Battle Rap is now a business and there is no turning back now.......I just hope the major leagues maintain control before the big corporate entities hi-jack it.

[@IsaiahKeene]

Caps ya new blog brought me here 🔥😆

[@jovanboldin3369]

Facts!

[@mauricedavis1740]

damn 🤦🏾‍♂️ i heard this live and still have to revisit every once in awhile...😆

[@spudcotton5234]

Angry Fan was super bias! Jones never really answered anything he just talked over Lush.This shit wild!

[@HorizonHipHop]

yeah, and after hearing the full story about how Lush was paying people out of his own pocket, because Alki (the dude who threw the event and owns FilmOn tv) never paid up, Lush tried his best to get people paid and get the event done.

[@yardmarley]

"Why was somebody shootin at a white boy that host battles?"-Jones

[@HecBoggie718]

Because he owes the coke dealers some serious money!!!!

[@gregoryg1303]

😆

[@HeavenSunArcadez]

this shit is mad entertaining man, i could listen to this shit everyday wish i saw this when it came out.

[@BrotherhoodWilliams]

I'm at the beginning wish i did too

[@jkjkjk1116]

+jeice alexander listen to dizaster go off on murda mook its classic

[@annamarie7062]

Lush acting hard pissed me off so I can't imagine how the battlers who are owed money feel.

[@ThePrimeSinisterr]

I feel Jones' pain. I really do..., but he needs to understand that Lush can't pay him, because he smoked all the money away like how Gator in "Jungle Fever" smoked the T.V. It happens. That money is in the air now, on its way to heaven. It's ok...just let it go... They'll be more opportunities my son...

[@eddiesille9628]

Haaa

[@Magneticitist]

LOL that bread is casper bro

[@AT-ts1se]

lol yeah

[@AT-ts1se]

lol yeah

[@DarkReapersGrim1]

Battle rap, from the street corners to the online radio shows.

[@thedaily30]

I love how this still pops in in my recommended feed in 2021 💯💪🏾🔥

[@Goonie856]

Damn I remember listening to this Live on blogtalk.. those were the days on AFR it was lit 🔥 AFR and Battle Rap Arena

[@eskititbay2la2NC]

Classic 😂😂😂

[@18hallmark]

Serius Jones is talking TRUTH bottom line is if you sign a contract you have to pay up, you can't give bouncing cheques or say there getting over paid after agreeing a fee....REAL TALK.

[@thecitysmotor570]

Whoever dude was that was talking to lush needs to take over the show. He comprehend and communicate better than Angryfan do.

[@tattoosbychrisg]

I wanna hear more about this! I hope the other battle rappers speak about it

[@twistoffate01]

People pick and choose who's money to fuck with. Because certain people wouldn't let that shit slide and they know it.

[@lovetronlawrence2482]

Lush admitted that Rappers are OWED money. Cant trust The Enemy.

[@warrendchild]

Lush definitely a police.

[@SikeNawGaming]

If there is an Agreement, and a person complete's their part of the contract, pay them what you owe them, plain and simple. Some of that disrespect Lush one was doing wasnt even necessary. You pay what you owe and Honor contracts that you give out. Bad look for Lush.

[@vinlloyd5836]

SikeNaw Gaming right

[@kingsaintthomian3403]

Exactly

[@ConcaveEarth100]

I never released how much Lush sounds like Jonah Hill lol

[@blacurts20]

ctfu

[@Eagriffin26]

Jones got me dying lmmfao pill poppin swagg

[@MrCoughupalung]

Jones never said how much he was paid. He just stood quite and avoided the question.

[@sayitaintsotv299]

Lush had 10,000 excuses..... He got paid He didn’t get paid cuz he’s not a good business man It’s like when you own a stamping and it’s going out of business 😂 You breeched the contract Etc

[@konshismusic]

"You're not a dry snitch? You got a whole timeline full of......" lol

[@phillip1991]

Lush one is a legend

[@iAintSayDat]

Lush One is lying. No one is on his side. And the Ether shit was awful.

[@BrotherhoodWilliams]

this shoulda been had 1M views

[@DavidJ704]

"Ask Lush. HE KNOWS!" - Serius Joenes

[@princealirogers]

Love

[@dj_dominic]

#Wow That was the best show I listened to... Serius Jones was off the phone 📞 for like 45 sec and came back like #wtf. Lush was a clown for that one.LMAO 😂

[@ericperry27]

This shit is so hard to follow. Both cutting each other off. Lush aint answering the most imperative question...... Lush just hurling insults... Its sad...

[@ISnoopDoggyStyleHoes]

Where's that tayroc vs dna recap

[@wizethoughtsrevolve7610]

"This man is a fool and a drug addict" Ctfu I'm done

[@909Pooksta]

Jones 3-0

[@noble-bu7fr]

Lol

[@BigBird104]

Hahaha!

[@KontryBoy706]

truth was Lush didn't have the money from Alki David yet.... he was paying people with money he didn't have lol he was letting people sign contracts without knowing if he was actually gonna get ALL the money or not... which is FUCKED UP

[@Joeyfingaz1]

Classic interview lmao put it in the books

[@Magneticitist]

this whole conversation should actually help entice mainstream investors considering it shows that they could promise both the managers and artists a certain amount but pay them less and get away with it. a contractually agreed amount of money was paid, or it wasn't. not that damn complicated.

[@cagedbeast9562]

i dont think Lush One answered 1 question directly ...

[@sammyj184]

Caged Beast that's a dust head

[@stevendasilva9287]

Hahahahahaha bro this is the funniest interview I ever heard. Lush one is calling jones a bitch.lol these 2 guys got me rolling

[@thecirclemovement]

jones comes off more honest but wayne made the most relevant point, if you haven't been paid whats in the contract why don't you take it to court.

[@MallLaSoul]

It can cost more in legal fees and lawyer money over that four or five grand he's owed. Not worth it

[@tomazas08]

Mall La Soul if he wins,it will be by Lush side

[@DarkReapersGrim1]

Unfortunately, people will see Jones as a traitor to the "street code" even if he goes to court for bread owed to him. In the street, people expect people from the street to handle debts with violence, not the court system.

[@thecirclemovement]

Batman i agree but not when your dealing with a corporate company

[@shaq33ish]

People will call jone a snitcg

[@gmr7494]

lush is a rich kid born from privilege. his father is a famous Hollywood director. I think it's funny how lush acts all hard and trying to be street when we know he's a fake

[@yung007jr]

Oceans808 being street has nothing to do with whooping somebody ass..done seen niggas in the hood get whooped on a regular

[@HorizonHipHop]

Lush isn't rich lol. Just because your parents have money doesnt mean you do

[@kevmack101]

Lush is a bad business man he should have just paid him the little money and save his brand and reputation

[@eddiesille9628]

Word!

[@samnangpoe]

+KevMack Olson i guess we can assess what the fuck happened with Grindtime lol

[@HorizonHipHop]

@@samnangpoe there's a lot of things that lead to Grindtime downfall, Lush is not a big one

[@awesome-o7220]

jones won't say how much he got paid..not a good look for your argument bru

[@sammythabull245]

This guy Lush One sounds like a real sheisty guy. Why doesn't he just be straight. Bounced check. Bad business.

[@andrecoleman1856]

I think Serius did some shit with the flights and hotels then maybe kinda implied intimidation on Lush to reimburse him and Lush agreed then had second thoughts. Also Lush admitted because of the rich financial backer acting funny that the money was funny and Serius was the one rapper that really became vocal about it which embarrassed Lush even more than the bad aspects of the event already had. Lush was trying to save face with this interview.

[@AMartyrsRecords]

you stupid...all of them have said lush robbed them

[@im2tall1]

Lush One looking shaky baby!!! LOL

[@cutthroattruthnews4766]

You can't just not pay out the full contract because they don't fuck with you? Was the contract fully paid? That's what I wanna know.

[@im2tall1]

18:10 Serious Jones went into full confessional!!LOL

[@ptl647]

jones hang up the phone lollll

[@mohannadshadid205]

Moral of the story is to just say NO

[@zazaisthechamp]

Caps ruined this man getting exposed

[@3rdwardbeatz]

I cant stop laughing.. lush a fool & jones a diva lol S/O to caps for getting this classic interview

[@localiser1]

What fee was agreed in written contract? What payment was received in written receipts? Both are evidence. The difference , if any, is the answer. This is complete amateur hour by all involved. So easy to sort.

[@Lvl75Zapdos]

Serious should've been this tough when Diz marked him out 😂😂😂😂

[@RespectfullyImNotReadingThat]

Delusional

[@DNATURAL100]

the people that cut the check hype you up, you in turn hype everyone else up, the project gets done and the check writers either don't pay or slow pay.. classic entertainment move ...

[@Soufparkmack]

Lush still never answered the question, nigga know he owe Jones some bread

[@cozzzo3614]

Lush on the brown dust

[@babyblueLEGEND]

4:27, All that nonsense Lush was talking, he loss. He's trying to say ''You didn't get paid because you dont know how to act''. Fuck that, slavery is OVER.

[@detrellmetoyer5607]

If u listen closely, Jones is only complaining off getting reimbursement from a flight and a hotel that he didn't feel was worthy because it wasn't in Hollywood so he booked his own an wanted to be paid for it, all this over an extra 4gs smh

[@HorizonHipHop]

so he could fly out his hoes lol

[@bulletsandcaskets45]

Sounds like lush one is the middle man for what the billionaire said he was gonna negotiate and everybody going in on lush one when he said he emptied his account. So if emptied his account you are gonna get rubber checks and its fucked up to do rubber check thing its dishonest. Lush got played by the billionaire and that's kinda what he was saying in the last clip of this interview

[@bulletsandcaskets45]

But lush sounds real suspect on other shit he is talking about smh

[@WorldEndMedia]

Somebody call Judge Judy lol

[@sheilareynolds]

lush has been a clown since grindtime. the fact that he is still even somewhat relevant disgusts me. kotd should've got rid of this dude a long time. disgraceful human being.

[@GasGotti]

Damn Lush is gettin bodied fam.

I would LOVE to meet guys like Lush One AND Dizaster in an elevator! I can NOT stand fake tough guys, yo. All of that calling people "faggots" and other stuff out of their names is corny. Lush and Dizaster are the same exact kinda lames. They're tough when they have back up, over the phone, and on the Internet. If they're real Fresh Coast representatives, they're making the West look bad.

[@TheKreamKing]

Diz is actually about that life tho, I didn't think so at first either

Nah, Diz is AROUND people that are about that life. But he, himself, is a GoofBall.

[@kevindelaney7624]

Cass and his people had Diz shook he's pussy

[@walkwithme]

+Melvin Bryant this is why the west is corny and the midwest and east coast is popping as far as battle rap goes... KOTD popping also. grindtime is finito.

[@1SuperD1]

Lush is full of ish. He is dodging questions left and right. Jones seems like he had some last minute changes but he has proof that he is still supposed to be paid.

[@DavidMalbranque]

15:00

[@soodipop3925]

He said i paid everyone else's hotel fee but not siriuss hotel fee. Then in the same breath says he did.

[@MallLaSoul]

Stop pocket watching, it don't matter what he got paid

[@ptl647]

jones how much did u get pay why cant he anwers

[@doeboy84]

Artist don't like putting out how much they're getting paid to perform because a promoter might hear the # & now he won't want to pay what the artist ask for.

[@HorizonHipHop]

@@doeboy84 why would they not want to pay what they ask for? Its just a battle rapper thing, they want to brag about making 50k for a battle when most of em barely make a band or 2

[@jerelmatthews23]

Hilarious and informative interview...When Jones pretended to get off the phone...lmfao...classic shit...But the fact is Lush owes Serious Money. Serious going hard about it and Lush wanna pay him when it's convenient for Lush. Bad business on Lush end no matter how u cut it. If u don't wanna hear somebody bullshit then pay em what u owe. Sure Serious could be classier about it but that's just not who he is.

[@adrenalin9588]

This white boy is not tuff why is he acting like this.

[@deepwaters7885]

#1 rule: never believe a coke head when it comes to money. "cocaine is a hell of a drug"

[@Trudon]

shot at? wtf

[@ThaCorporate]

I'm with Lush on that one. If ya'll battle rappers got a problem go holler at judge joe brown lol

[@SyndicateTheLonelyGun]

You can't believe nothin lush says. He changed his story, at least 3 times. Hold this L.

[@Trudon]

jones vs lush sm5

[@Levitationaldelusion]

Queue "the People's Court" theme music right about now...

[@russellstevens9927]

As quiet as it's kept, Lush nor the KOTD, was ever really the same since this interview. Now, they basically just stick to booking west coast battlers, these days.

[@K4PO]

Classic show caps!

[@JoeyB44]

LUSH IS CLASSIC

[@jaynightmar3]

So is lush saying "I know I owe you money, but you better be quiet until I pay you or else you don't get paid" or "We can get into some gangsta shit" or is he really trying to make Jones indict himself on the radio by provoking him and calling him all types of shit......Not looking good for Lush no more.....

[@CrysInChrist]

nigga smoked up Jones money....this shit funny bro...why am I just seeing this??

[@arya721]

Yo am i getting refunded for the ppv? lol

[@Trudon]

no sir