Serral vs Oliveira is the best StarCraft 2 I've ever seen.

[@孙哲慧]

In Chinese Reddit last night, people said if Oliveira won one game against Serral they would be already satisfied, if Oliveira won 2, they would open champagne to celebrate!! Great match to both players!!! I was so nervous at game 5, that normal man almost did it.

[@keizan5132]

Even knowing he's the reigning world champion. Wow, that's how great Serral is.

[@INS1cells]

He was so close, and honestly he has a real chance to take the world championship this year.

[@BestPrezz]

​@@INS1cellsLets see how much time Serral got to practice and if he can play. I'm pretty sure he will figure out, how to react to 8 rax :D

[@YuNherd]

serral doing that extra mile hatch on oli's side means oli is a threat somehow to him, but with maru... i dun know

[@BestPrezz]

@@YuNherd nah, its just a late game preparation

[@derrychen6923]

after 4:0 final , i rewatched that game , damn , that was the final

[@peanutbutter625]

I think serral had the right idea but he didn't see that oliviera had some units further back. If they weren't there, he could've easily swarmed the tanks.

[@Frank-os6gq]

what game was the 4:0 your referring too? like vs who or tournament? id like to watch it

[@WonderingWanderer88]

@@Frank-os6gq finals. Right after this match, the winner (to not spoil) vs Maru.

[@manumainio]

These Oliveira-Serral games are right up there with the Clem-Serral games in terms of best ZvT games of all time. The skill level is insane. I'm so glad Oliveira is staying sharp and looking like a real contender for a 2nd WC in a row. Massive props to Serral as well, coming in during his military service and showing he's still on top by winning the tournament.

[@redwings13400]

1:17:00-1:18:00 What an utterly ridiculous hold by Serral! His army was severely outmatched, he makes the call to cut off reinforcements which helps cut off the army just long enough for him to get something together, then the moment his lings on the other side dies, he moves in. If Serral is even five seconds slower to take out the main army there, Olivera's reinforcements arrive, get set up and the position becomes unbreakable, but Serral somehow managed to stall for exactly enough time to barely hold. Olivera looked incredible there, definitely the most impressed I've ever been by him. He came within a few seconds of taking the series.

[@tuhu5990]

It is the greatest game I've ever watched. Oliveira and Serral made another legendary match.

[@benjaminblack91]

Game 3 truely is a work of art. Its like the players stopped really trying to win around minute 7 and just started to show off their incredible knowledge and understanding of the game as artfully as possible.

[@xXAkirhaXx]

New zerg queen lore...Brenda knows she's in a game. Susan is oblivious.

[@NealHoltschulte]

Ah yes, Brenda, the Deadpool of queens. 😂

[@jm3606]

And Karen just complains about the past and her joint pain….

[@ZC.Andrew]

Susan thinks she is shopping

[@leerollins7555]

so where does that leave Karen

[@mihairo83]

I think people will finally take Oliveira seriously. Taking the World Championship was a complete surprise to everybody, and playing in Asia made him pass onobserved until now, but from now on I think he will be analysed more. We'll see if this is just another momemtum or there is something abot Olviveira - not quite a normal man. TY for casting.

[@kathorsees]

I already am taking Oli seriously. I think his championship win, in a weird way, made people more doubtful of him than they should be. Players and casters praise people like Spirit, Scarlett or Classic - and with good cause, they're amazing. But they don't have the same results as Oliveira - and somehow don't get as much doubt/skepticism as him. Oli is amazing, and I'm sure he'll give us a lot more great, nail-biting games!

[@_Wai_Wai_]

I almost forgot about Oliveira for the past couple months, and then this game happened.

[@mihairo83]

If I remember correctly, in the ESL Regionals Asia Final TvP he said that if he's up 3-0 he will play Protoss. He was up 3-0, played Protoss PvP and won 4-0. That makes him a very strong player.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@mihairo83 who did he play against?

[@mihairo83]

@@_Wai_Wai_ I think it was Coffee. So it was 3-0 TvT and last match PvT. Thank you for the question. I had it backwards

[@chanmanv]

The match wasn't the longest but I agree this was some of the best technical SC2 I've ever seen by both players. The efficiency of which both races are played now is just mind blowing.

[@Brainth_1780]

In general, SC2 players have been achieving previously unthinkable levels of play. Everyone has really stepped up their game since Serral showed up, you can see it in the details. Back then Serral's surrounds were so good he was all but guaranteed an incredible trade, now we see Oliveira masterfully positioning his units in a way that he can fight even the craziest of angles.

[@chanmanv]

@@Brainth_1780 Yea if you go back and look at games in 2011-2015, it's actually pretty laughable how bad the top play was back then compared to know in every race. The efficiency is incredible today.

[@ferryfernandus1423]

@@chanmanv which is the same case for warcraft 3 and any other RTS, as time goes by, the skill ceiling is getting even further and to a point its so hard to grasp during the moment. that's how good these days the pros are

[@ziliestarrive]

damn, this is a long way from losing 20 matches to serral in a row, bravo Oliveira

[@RavagHer]

thats cuz of all the recent balance patches which is essentially nerfs for zerg...see how he didnt go broodlords much compared to before? even infestors he didnt really use compared to before

[@Stevintage]

@@RavagHer true but if you saw the finals, you also know it didn't matter too much 😅

[@ninjadejedi]

I would say Serral got bamboozal twice by 8 rack two bases all in. He was never in any real danger in other maps. In the Macro map, Serral was never being pressured like when he fought Clem. So it’s more because Serral finding ways to deal with 2 bases all in. And in the last map, he decided that he need viper to neutralise the tank.

[@Billneyugn]

⁠@@ninjadejedi I think Olivera know he can’t out multi task Serral or keep up his speed, so it is the best chance for him to win by using 8 rax build.

[@thefirstk6331]

@@Stevintage Thats just on Maru to be honest, he has an mental block when playing Serral 2:8 in last 10 series and 5:25 in mapscore.

[@ThomasLuna1989]

2 champions, 1 winner

[@IdleAndHungry]

This is one of those series that are so good, I'm rewatching it from every casters point of view. And people still doubt Oliveira.

[@marcapparatus]

Winter. I love it when you do impersonations and character voices. Adds so much more personality to the in-game interactions. Thanks so much for your consistency in making great games, and making everyone’s day.. just a little.. bit.. better. ❤

[@kathorsees]

❤

[@MeatBrickGaming-is3zl]

Thank you Winter. You are the best caster out there. And your videos have quite literally saved my life. I was struggling with depression, and thoughts of suicide, and I'm starting to lose my hearing at age 15, but I still listen to you every time. So you have definetly earned my first ever subscribe! Keep it up!

[@CarNerd]

have you tried not stuffing everything down deep?

[@martinkrauser4029]

@@CarNerd "haha lol just don't be sad" gtfo

[@KoltoMephet]

All I wanted was to watch a nice BO7, and then Serral had to go and ruin the finale by being Serral. I had to go to bed early! How dare he make me get a full nights rest!

[@Mglunafh]

Had to finish things quickly to get back to finland for the military drills next morning

[@timefarmer444]

My ten year old was with me at the event.... he called it when I was explaining bo7 he was like "I hope the zerg wins all 4 in a row" so he could get back to smash Bros lol

[@thomasnussbaumer1556]

agreed 😂

[@Metaspace2]

Hahaha :-D

[@nicandromartinezsotelo3300]

I was there in tbe audience live, and the energy was overwhelming, my God, this should've been the grand final

[@chloesmith4065]

To most of us, it was

[@JROCK2000-wuv-u]

You do bring something (a lot) different than every caster I've watched, you feel genuine and self-aware along with witty amazing commentary. My favorite caster and a daily watch close to every day. Obviously can't just have serral all the time but as a pure zerg it's like eating the first bite of delicious birthday cake or waking up on Christmas morning whenever I get to see your casting and serrals optimized minmaxed playstyle that I so love. Thanks!

[@LucianDevine]

We'd have a splash of Dark with our pure Serral, but yeah, Winter is a different breed. The queen arguments, shouting, and being racist against Terrans is priceless!

[@JROCK2000-wuv-u]

@@LucianDevine agreed, dark really likes to throw grenades into the mix that are either confetti or shrapnel and you don't know till it goes off, and then you find the real grenade was in your toilet bowl. super enjoyable watch

[@kihmjones2176]

Watching Winter play against other casters shows the Kid really knows his stuff

[@rubengarnica9907]

Serral quickly became one of my favorite zerg players. From his creep spread rivaling Scarlett to his creative gameplay like nidusing workers across the map. Very entertaining.

[@kathorsees]

Agreed, I don't see why people say they find Serral's style boring. He's not a chaotic player like Dark (whom I absolutely love). But all of the little details of his play are so beautiful - how he distracts with the first 2-4 lings to allow the ovie to get a good scout of the base. He's the only zerg to consistently do really cool stuff like overlord drops or contaminating the opponent's tech research. Look at the corner base steal in game 1, ffs! He's a lot more creative than people give him credit for.

[@ironmonkey1512]

He has become much more creative the last couple years it's a lot easier to root for him.

[@ditch_magnet]

@@kathorsees honestly compared to Dark nearly ANYONE at the top level is gonna look boring. SC2 fans are lucky to have Dark. Serral takes his games too seriously to let stylistic preferences interfere with what he feels is the best tactical move, while Dark injects a bit of showmanship and a personal touch into his matches. Anyone who thinks serral lacks flair categorically should see his pocket builds.

[@jmgutierrez962]

Oliviera stole the show.. amazing series

[@techtrek31]

This was awesome, thank you Winter! You mentioned a couple videos ago that you read the comments, and so I'd like to say it seems like you have been doing re-winds and slow downs of critical moments and I REALLY love this! Action happens so fast it's hard to tell what is going on sometimes and it's great to go back and see a key battle in slow motion, or be able to view another piece of action. Also, the pedant in me is bemused and charmed by your consistent mis-use 'less' in place of 'fewer'. Never change! :P

[@firestarter000001]

That third game was so impressive by both Oliveira and Serral.

[@TheLiquidpower]

I'd just like to point out that I have never played starcraft 2. I've only ever seriously watched 1 esports style cast before, and it was for a MOBA I was addicted to (don't worry the doctors cured me) and I just subbed to your channel because I have been watching these videos for DAYS. You are hands down the most relatable, entertaining, and witty casting talent I have ever seen. You make watching other people have fun fun.

[@chaoton]

Olivera’s tank placement is so impeccable, so beautiful

[@FrelanceEQ]

Serral wholly beat the entire army he could see @ 1:07:28 . all the marines & 'bats he could see, all dead by 1:07:40 , and one of the three tanks. he did *not* kill the army he only discovered @ 1:07:30 , and splitting banes toward that second force, ineffectively, kept Serral from killing the other two tanks. He lost that battle, and so that game, informationally. He moved so confidently because he's used to complete scouting info - he didn't have it this time!

[@wilshireanasurimbor3068]

"the helions to protect the siege tanks" could almost be Oliveira's tagline. Its like byun "picks up ... and heads to the main". If you recall his world championship run, this move is what clinched his victories in several important matches. He's a lot more dynamic than that obviously, but when his tactical gameplay is on point its these little things that wins him games.

[@vi6ddarkking]

Honestly It seem like the only time he had to try all tournament.

[@terrycrews1584]

He only started taking the tourn seriously after he lost the first map against Oliveira. After he lost another point, he already adapted to Oliveiras playstyle and came out as the victor. Oliveira is Serrals training partner, so Serral doesnt have that many tricks up his sleeve and Oliveira has better ability to predict Serrals next moves. Not to take anything away from Oliveiras amazing performance, of course.

[@ziliestarrive]

@@terrycrews1584 the reverse is also true

[@tambaz2276]

@@terrycrews1584 Definitely doesn't take away from Oliviera considering That scenario favors Zerg as the strongest reactive/defensive race. Terran is the race which needs tricks up their sleeve, Zerg is the most reactive meaning its the strongest if you know the opposing player very well. The reactive player doesn't need tricks, the reactive is the one who wants to know their opponents builds.

[@terrycrews1584]

@@tambaz2276 Zerg has been nerfed recently though. It isnt as simple as you make it seem.

[@elgar7252]

@@terrycrews1584 so has Terran

[@Lvmelton415]

KZbin algorithm working fast today, knowing I need me my daily winter video.

[@bobby4tw]

There are AA equivalent meetings for people like you 😂

[@ShotofCyanide1]

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

[@shnma5]

Dawg, at least subscribe for Jimmy

[@bobby4tw]

@@shnma5 if he at least work reproactieve I would. But winter is an active streamer and don't ever give any valuable foresight in the matches.

[@Lvmelton415]

@@bobby4tw See i can understand most things going on, so i just want for haha funny mootas

[@francisjaytimosa9838]

Oliveira's timing attack bet. 7-9 min. mark is game-ending for other Zerg pros. Serral had the perfect approach in game 5 by not going into mass ling bane like in game 4. Oliveira was close to defeating the goat.

[@Dodosama-kv1ze]

just imagine you have to do your military service in finnland, you're a "nerdy little sc2 fan" amongst all those buffalos and then turns out you're roommate is... SERRAL (imagine winters fusion-sore-sound here)

[@ZC.Andrew]

Heh! Unfortunately I don't think the vast majority of people in the military would even know who he is, or what SC2 even is. The Korean military is probably a different story.

[@Dazzleteats]

Let's hear it for perfect casting. Has anyone tried commentating over a game? I thought it was easy so i tried and 10 seconds in I forgot what a SCV was called.

[@Tazdingo01]

LOL

[@TonyTony__]

"Your forces are under attack" with the zerg voice bring back so much memory. What a game ladys and gents. What a fcking game.

[@TheGImp1214]

I watched it live snd i’m going to watch it again

[@Tomshaaaa]

"Some of my best friends are Zerg" Haha Winter never change :)

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

Serral in the military... can you imagine this dude in a helmet and vest? lmao

[@manumainio]

They should put him in some drone unit. Dude is a multitasking master.

[@timefarmer444]

Lol the enemy would be in trouble with him microing swarms of drones lmao

[@yuomovaeh3028]

He could macro the drone factories too

[@timefarmer444]

@yuomovaeh3028 dear God please no lol

[@asbjrnfossmo1589]

With his ability to focus, and keep focus on like ten things at the same time, he'd be put in a command center (a real one) to keep tabs on enemy movements, possibly anticipating hostile actions. Yes, real life warfare isn't quite SC2, but with his talent for keeping a cool head and giving orders rapidly while things are happening all over the place, it would be insane to just stick a rifle in his hands and tell him to bag at least three Russians before he eats it.

[@tori5111]

such an impressive series. thank you winter for all your casts which help me every single day but thank you even more for this one 💖

[@Alekouzos]

Ok winter i have to say this. You are the only caster that never missed a fight \ event in game. BRAVO

[@pinkemoslayer6337]

Yes! Finally, KZbin has figured out I'm interested in this channel's uploads! Only been subbed and belled for years. lmao!

[@blunts4brekfast]

That 5hp bane nerf is nothing to sneeze at.

[@chloesmith4065]

I think they should revert it honestly, it hurts everybody else even more than it hurts Serral... Find another way to weaken Zerg.

[@MKu64]

@@chloesmith4065Yea.. Serral can make do without the 5hp (just) but no one else can..

[@MnS7997]

Woah!! Oliveira positioning is awesome, but Serral just insane, swarming and swarming again with great calculation. This is so satisfying to watch, thanks.

[@passby8070]

Olivia and Serral are pushing each other to the limits, Serral never had a such clean swap, not losing to anyone else other than Olivia in this tournament.

[@scfan7231]

Great games! Thank you for the catchy headline I would not have watched otherwise. Your casting is also really good, I think it has improved - at least I like it more today than I did 3 years ago.

[@displacedicon7643]

Wait, Serral? Hell yeah. Edit: That first game looked like Serral was playing a challenge of not building any attacking exclusive units other than Zerglings / banes. Though it looked like he was caving with the ultra den at the end...

[@pnnnnnnnnnn1234]

Yeah. I had the feeling he doesnt take it seriously

[@displacedicon7643]

@@pnnnnnnnnnn1234 Honestly just went and watched the final day of the tournament. I feel like he probably didn't prepare for this specific series as apparently him and Olivera are training partners right now, I won't take anything away from olivera given how this tournament played out and how serral played against another opponent after this, it feels like it was more of a warmup series. Won't spoil who and what the result was of course but if you watched it you know who.

[@pnnnnnnnnnn1234]

@@displacedicon7643 I watched it. Hell of a series. Oliveras decision making was so clean. I thankful that he is becoming such a player. I mean you expect a 3:0 or 3:1 for serral with ease and then you get such a series. I mean the last game was an epic final. Better then being at the cinema.

[@displacedicon7643]

@@pnnnnnnnnnn1234 Yeah, its good seeing Olivera somewhat take his place as a potential winner in more tournaments been waiting on it since his 2023 run. I think his practice matches with Serral are paying off given this result it feels like he's already closing in on the best tvz right now.

[@tambaz2276]

@@displacedicon7643 If a Terran and a Zerg are training partners, that favors the Zerg if they have to play against each other in tournament.

[@xXAkirhaXx]

Everyone else: Zerg is kind of under powered. Serral: I'm going to beat this guy with tier 1 zerg units and 3 vipers.

[@aguy2608]

Nobody thinks zerg is underpowered

[@ENZ2103]

Who says Zerg is underpowered? It's Protoss that people usually think of as underpowered.

[@timefarmer444]

Nerfing ZERG CAUSE of serral is like not allowing shoes when running Cause of Usain bolt.. it's just crazy

[@Howwasyourdaysir]

Does anybody really think that zerg is underpowered?

[@shadowpriest2574]

@@Howwasyourdaysir Yep they do....despite being the strongest race.

[@TheStaniG]

Oliveira always has the most BEAUTIFUL on field setups, positions and dedication to his pushes. The tiny things you would do in a SP campaign to min max unit positioning, Oliveira does while fighting SERRAL.

[@chronicstamped]

I have no clue how to play this game, but its very fun to watch the pros do it

[@RYXPfan]

This was a true pleasure to watch and a very entertaining cast to listen to from Winter! Good games for the fans 😎

[@maciejhajko2936]

Serral is just a lore accurate zerg swarm

[@rezinatebasshead]

really enjoy your videos. You have a great sense of humor which really adds to the commentary. Subbed

[@christopherscott6383]

Let's Go Love Winter casting SC2

[@yugonostalgia8961]

For the Normal Man against the Greatest SC2 Accountant ... I don't care how dirty Oliveira's strats are, he can go mass widow mine ghost every game, I'm still always going to root for him to triumph!

[@yugonostalgia8961]

Damn... Oliveira really looking like the true Protagonist of SC2 - making the greatest god of SC2 bleed twice and sweat twice... By the end of the year I think he'll take a series off of serral I'd bet on it

[@Mike-fl3zx]

Man! Olivera's tank setups are the best I've ever seen. If this guy continues improving I think he'll be a monster against zerg players, just like Clem.

[@quarantinezone2844]

35:19 Winter making the save of the century 😂

[@chloesmith4065]

You can tell he's gotten pretty darn good at this whole casting thing :P

[@josiahcraig-oq6hb]

He doesn’t make it look easy he makes it look inevitable was the most perfect way to describe watching serral play

[@Unformed8]

Winter hates sharing screen time, that's why we've never gotten to see Jimmy

[@sl8691]

Thanks!

[@urazoktay7940]

Yeah man, you made my day a little bit better. Thanks for the great content. :D

[@LucianDevine]

Serral played game 3so damn well. It would be so easy to get frustrated and incidentally throw that game as Zerg. Also, Oliveira's 8 rax timings are so damn good! The mind games going into that game 5 were insane. Does he go for the 8 rax timing one more time, knowing that it basically won him 2 games, but Serral might be expecting it, or does he go for a longer game, trying to capitalize on Serral trying to stop the 8 rax timing? GG's WP Oliveira!

[@pablomoreira8227]

Serral's "one spine" defence is so strong for the first terran push ! It's standart for him nowdays

[@scottevensen2615]

Daaaaamn! Each match was phenomenal but I really loved the intricacies of game 3-the forward planetary, the nukes, the tactical nydus', so satisfying! 👌

[@OLahh29]

this was one hell of a match up!

[@urazoktay7940]

Amazing series! Thank you for the video, i subscribed. :D

[@quintyss1290]

The skill in this game was truly representative of a final.

[@TheDedloc]

When Winter talks to Susan and Brenda he gets his normal voice mixed in there and confused sometimes lol

[@SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip]

Winter is my new favorite caster. The color in these casts is off the charts. I lol at every single fucking game. I really thought Tastosis couldn't be beat. But Winter has me coming back for more every goddamn night and I swear he's even better.

[@SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip]

NOOOO BRENDA

[@Chucklehound]

"The queens are taking a pounding, but they're used to it" - I feel seen 😆

[@keizan5132]

I want this fp pov from both sides SO BAD!

[@timefarmer444]

Beh I was there live in dallas... serral super humble and nice guy to meet and signed my zerg wins sign

[@jairwen82]

These matches are more exiciting than the final one vs maru. :)

[@shawnyewest]

A fantastic match and a fantastic casting. A1 content as always.

[@JohnSmith-nc9ep]

Outstanding series🎉 Tense all the way through the last minutes.

[@CarlosMoura-r8b]

Thank you for all those time with us

[@binbadende]

Lucky Winter. Every other creator would be blocked with such a title. And thank you for your cast.

[@verdibyrd]

this series was amazing

[@harmonyreform]

After 4:0 final. I rewatched this one and treated this one as final!

[@GoGoGoTV1]

I’d def be interested in the first person breakdown you suggested!

[@chloesmith4065]

Same

[@williamking331]

I so want to see serral do BW Zerg (from the starcraft mod) and be gross with devours.

[@miza6]

You are on it bro, way to get this in early

[@archidor1944]

game 3 is just incredible, oliveira did so well to fight it back

[@gabriel.hongkong]

Oliveira's run in 2023 Katowice is remarkable. We expect Serral to not lose a single map, yet here we are.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

The most professional sc2 indeed

[@az5129]

this should have been the finals match. :c

[@paulembleton1733]

Reapers reminding Queens they could once fly 🥺the emotional damage built up through the match. StarCraft is real time chess when the players are this good.

[@dajosh42069]

I actually like that version... "Everyone has a plan until they get zerged in the base." I know that's not how you said it. But it's how I said it, and it's now something I will always say.

[@iskandar7688]

Magnificent match ! and a great cast, thx winter

[@taggerung890]

How has Serral been so dominate, we need a documentary on him

[@theculturedgentleman3699]

I really miss Serral since hes been gone

[@quaitheqarth2645]

Thank you Oliveria and Serral for such a phenomenon performance.

[@verynotsuspicious]

"He's got 2 2 on the way" Kendrick would be proud

[@NyashQa]

8:50 LOL these Queen conversation :XD

[@10klewise]

Okay serral may be the only person allowed to make 300 supply the number of Zerg in those games was insane

[@scottevensen2615]

Geez, those first 2 games were intense! I'll finish the rest later.

[@SH4MSHEL]

Serral never disappoints :D

[@ΓιώργοςΚαντζίδης]

We missed Serral!

[@Jackbrick101]

Insaaane games. Great cast. Serral adapts very well. I feel like Oliveira needs another strat to rotate in. If Serral knows what's coming I don't think it's beating him.

[@StadiumofLOLMAPS]

I dont know wtf maru was doing in the finals... It's like he's not even trying in some series.

[@timefarmer444]

Yea he played waaay better in the semis

[@rouxypouxy9245]

He played terran that what he did, losing from the selection screen

[@teddanville6996]

First of all let me state that Maru played horribly during the Finals and Serral was still playing like the best player in the world that he is. Now onto the reason why Maru lost so quickly. -It's like 4am Korean time during the finals so maybe Maru is not used to the timezone change. Remember most of the player Maru beat during this tournament is also Korean. -Maru had always known to have inferior tactics compare to Serral, most of the game Serral beat Maru, he beat Maru with superior build order, Serral didn't even have to do anything too fancy. -Maru clearly choked both game 3 and game 4, which bring me to my point where i don't think Maru is a very tough player mentally. He performs just fine when he is ahead but he can't play well when he is behind.

[@Sluibari]

@@teddanville6996 That time difference applies to both Serral and Maru, but might ofc affect some more than others.

[@rouxypouxy9245]

@@teddanville6996 Just to know, what's your rank ingame 1v1 ?

[@AlexGeo925]

“That’s pretty meta, Brenda” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[@ditch_magnet]

amazing set - i feel so bad for Oliveira in game 3. I can't imagine he didn't intend for the ghosts to be there in that critical fight.

[@YourPalBenFrank]

Winter watch everyday keep it up man

[@PhantomKenTen]

This was so intense I think I can skip the gym today.

[@PJOZeus]

5 less bane hp with cheaper marine upgrades seems a little scuffed If it wasn't for the marine buffs I'd say perhaps they want to bring the equilibrium a little lower, less high powered slugging (which I'd say is a good goal) but as it is, just seem to push away from ling bane Maybe understandable, it could be used pretty late, but just a slightly bigger chokehold on zerg early game

[@chloesmith4065]

It certainly makes ling bane feel easier to deal with for Terran. We've seen in multiple games especially with Clem banelings not getting a chance to connect

[@andrewduan5123]

I was actually planning on skipping this to watch the IEM Dallas, but i came back to see the score was 2-2 so i had to stay