Session 1.0 is INSANELY Frustrating... (you WILL get mad)

[@VED34]

I’m having so much fun learning this game. It’s definitely not easy, but so rewarding. Couple things for my wish list as I’m sure dev’s will maybe look through your comments More customization, hair, hats, beards, jewelry etc. Customization is definitely lacking but I’m sure they are working on additions already. I’m sure animation updates are coming so I’m hyped for that, adding board breaking to wear and tear would be cool too. Overall, I am not disappointed. Been dreaming of a true skate sim and we finally have one.

[@sethprops4404]

Exactly how I feel. Love it.

[@Ghosty2004]

im pretty sure all that customization stuff is coming idk when but we will be getting those. also animations update at some point is basically guaranteed.

[@Hurtwolf]

Exactly how i feel too

[@sqinx480]

This is how i feel to, your speaking facts

[@formulakitten9909]

I wish Fr… I land and am like huh wtf 😂 cheers

[@OK-_-KO]

I think I speak for most of us when I say we love to see u actually battle the tricks and take your time to get a good one. Dont be afraid to show it more often

[@RubyRoks]

After finally understanding how to do liptricks, i can confidently say doing grinds on transition is one of the most satisfying things in video games. Unfortunately, that doesn't make up for all the bugs and other weirdness in 1.0, but it helps

[@lema1337]

getting a good 50-50 is sooo satisfying

[@matteoreall]

So good to see someone having the same issues I have with low grind alignment, sometime I think it's buggy but it is really unforgiving. Even the pop height affects if you gonn lock in the grind or not. This game is amazing

[@pdwtv5350]

session is so much fun i’m having a blast playing it. grinding in this game also feels and looks AMAZING. skater xl honestly is going to end up dying out. (because of lack of attention lol, it’s still at fun game) which is hard for me to say because skater xl is one of the only skate games i really fell in love with. (skate 3 was the first) it kinda sucks to see it die out.

[@ThisNachoFriend]

I'm with you on that man

[@cheesemongering109]

modded skater xl is better than 1.0 in my opinion

[@Patty-P]

Session will keep giving you more and more to fall in love w/. Glad you’re enjoying it ☺️

[@Ceas3]

xl is already dead

[@PurpleDrac]

Only people are still playing it? Including sessions players. And here we're in a video about session and somehow XL still gets 🤔brought up .. interesting. 🧐

[@JameyMan]

I’ve gotten myself the game! I must say that it is super hard for me to switch between SXL to Session, but i like the challenge😂 Feels good to watch someone who can actually skate in this game ❤

[@woodrowaugustusrogers8778]

Yeah bro I agree with you on the feel of the controls. Most game developers these days cater to players like toddlers. I enjoy challenging and innovative games, Session for the win! ✊💯

[@KJ_Styles]

Right? Tell that to everybody still bitching no more legacy controls. Are they even realizing they weren't actually playing SESSION when they used legacy controls?

[@Siggvard]

I actually prefer videos like this. It's fun to see the struggle and adjustments necessary in order to get a nice trick.

[@Ghosty2004]

this was probably one of the most fun i've had watching your video in a while. i think this random skating around content is actually really fun you should do more of that!

[@DangOlJesse]

Even though it's understandable and you put yourself out of your comfort zone, it's oddly refreshing seeing someone not be perfect, if that makes sense. This game is a test of patience and many videos don't accurately portray that. Good stuff.

[@LucrativeLarry]

Have to say this game is sick , I have it set to hardcore and get frustrated on the countless falls, when you complete the trick desired it feels absolutely amazing

[@TheSawzy]

I love this style of video, also love how you show the reality of this soon to be masterpiece.

[@ThisNachoFriend]

Garrett, you were right, I absolutely love Session and will also not be playing Skater XL for a long long time. I'm on Xbox one and having no issues that some others seem to be having.

[@Ari82301]

I love the pain this game gives me, when you land is so satisfying. And the fact that you do what you want to, like your own little goals. As a non-skater, I love this game

[@theohanks1777]

If you press one of the bumpers on the control you’ll come off the rail to the side without getting to the end of the rail, left bumper takes you off on the left side and right bumper takes you off the right side

[@couchpotato2two7]

Okay so I am mixed on this cause like I played skater xl can confidently say I have the game down when you go to session it’s controls make sense way more it makes you slowly hate how dumb and backwards the controls are for skater xl if you look up JL nightmares video he shows you how to make the game easy or realistic I mixed his setups together so you make the game easy but kept feet controls regular and it helps you learn how to use the toggle sticks but while auto catching and setting grinds to be easier and it helps alot while learning the game eventually I will reset everything to default again

[@jordinhocharles]

When I saw the title I instantly thought it being frustrating was bad but then I remembered…. It’s a sim, skating IS frustrating

[@DoubtMeGaming]

I have definitely gotten frustrated playing the game, but it's so damn awesome. Haven't had this fun with a skateboarding game in a long time

[@cipollino4754]

I'm not a skater but I remember JL saying that 0 grind alignment is broken ATM because unlike IRL you can't shift your weight yet. So if you want the board to slide mid lipslide down to the trucks/wheels you can achieve it with 0 but if you want the board to stay centered all the way through you're forced to have some grind alignment.

[@YuckFou0x0FFFF]

0:36 That's one of the most impressive board slides I've seen. I'd be scared to even attempt.

[@AnubisRacing]

Pro tip for manual catch: If you are not doing a double flip or a 360 variant of a flip you don't have to let go of the flip stick, scoop stick or both. Instead, move the stick you watch to catch with and rotate it to the bottom for front foot, or top for back foot (slightly off center to steeze your flips a bit) without letting it go to center. It will catch it after its first flip/180 rotation automatically. You can move it slightly from the edge to go to manual as well, just don't go back to center with the stick or you will need to input a secondary flick of it to catch. You will also still need to let go for any double flips to allow it to flip more than once and for any 360 variations of flip like treflips, laserflips etc. so that the shuv portion spins more than 180. You can even use this to go into grinds. Say you're doing an inward heel bs crook, do the input for an inward heel, but keep the flip stick at the edge and move it to the position for a crook. It'll make it look a lot more flowy doing it this way.

[@KJ_Styles]

The grind part of your comment wouldn't work on "full release" settings, would it?

[@AnubisRacing]

No it wouldn't, I forgot to mention that. The whole point of the full release setting is that you can't even input a grind unless you let the stick go back to center first. To be honest I didn't even think to add that because I never play on full release. Being able to flip and immediately reposition my stick for a grind looks more buttery imo. Like say your doing a kickflip back crook. It would look unnatural to me for the board to fully flip the KF and then dip the nose for a crook. IRL you usually start the 45 degree turn to get into it during the flip. Now that you have me thinking of it. If you are using Casper's on easy mode it would also prevent this from working. Because it would want to try and catch it in a Casper on every flip. I would say it's kind of trivial though because I'm not going to lie I'm constantly turning features on and off for different types of tricks and clips so it's just another one of those features you could flick on when you want a flowy looking flip into grind.

[@KJ_Styles]

@@AnubisRacing thanks for elaborating further on this. Made. Me curious. I think I'll check that out later today.

[@akiramatoi4158]

Idk who else noticed but, the Creature Hangar is just the one in the Brooklyn Banks in the building & the beta Prison map mashed into one and not under construction still. When u spawn the left side is the prison map. Right side and middle is “Creature Park” but again.. finished not in construction

[@dtsteelman6552]

The missions are sort of messed up. I’ll land the trick I’m being asked to do, but it doesn’t count it. Like Daewon has a mission where you jump onto a ramp, do a flip trick off the rock, and then do a trick off. It asks for a Fakie FS 180. The game counts it only as a fs half cab, which that is what it is. So basically i can keep landing it until I’m blue in the face, but doesn’t matter because the game won’t register it as a fakie fs 180. Also the mission from Manny where you have to fs 180 onto a rail doing a switch 5050, the game doesn’t count the 5050 even though i have landed it. The missions need more work done to them.

[@WinterWolf397]

Dude, I had trouble with both of these missions. For Daewon, are you certain you're doing the correct flip? Because I was dumb and kept doing a pressure kickflip not realizing it was specifically asking for THE pressure flip, not A pressure flip. For Manny, all I can say is keep at it, I managed to finally lock it in by planting my feet the regular way, and then immediately reversing the inputs as soon as I hit the rail or else I would slip off. That one's gonna be hell no matter what though.

[@Jaedyn.Sanders]

I really underestimated how good everyone was haha I knew it was gonna be hard but man I struggled heaps but once you start to improve it feels so rewarding

[@whatthedunks2885]

it's so true. this game will get you MAD AS HELL. But when you land a trick it is sooooo satisfying.

[@ricksgamemisc10]

As frustrating as Session is, the ragdoll physics makes it better. I find myself laughing at my crumpled corpse way more often than getting mad at myself. :D

[@lilruzzo]

I'm really enjoying the content man! I have missed the streams cause they are at odd time in Australia but I'm enjoying it that much om going back and watching them post! Killing man and I can see you are having way more fun with this! Keep it up

[@EliteHardrive]

We finally have a true skate SIM. And I feel this needs to be stresses as much as possible, as since until now, we have only seem skateboarding in the digital world as games. Now we finally have something that you can put hours upon hours into, and the reward and content, IS in itself YOUR experience and practice, and what you accomplish from said practice and experience. I just hope and wish that this reminds the gaming community that there is still reward in experience and practice. Too many games just give us what we want right away, and then 5 months later the game is dropped and we want the next one since we rely on CONTENT more then SKILL and HOW you actually play the game. In the same way of skateboarding, you can give even the simplest thing the most complex and unique way of doing said thing. The quick rant at 10:33 was EXACTLY what needed to be said and everyone should hear that. Amen dude. Like when I play this game its 80% of simply enjoying the inputs and difficulty vs what it actually looks like. Thats why sims are not for everyone, but its VERY good for us skaters, who have always dreamed of a digital means to skateboard and FEEEEEL like we are skateboarding as we control it. I am on cloud nine with this existing right now, and im going to give it my full support.

[@Patty-P]

i play on low grind alignment, exactly where you lowered it to do that crook, and something about the last few days have just clicked for me. Still hard to lock in, but after a while you start to get more comfortable w/ it

[@Stokenstein]

For me, I feel a bit like the controls are unintuitive and that unfortunately translates into “difficulty.” It’s like button mashing on the sticks at some times. That said, it can be rewarding and it looks INCREDIBLE in replays/edits.

[@aj_dev_smith]

The hardest for me was definitely getting used to the triggers to turn, but now it’s so intuitive I couldn’t imagine a better layout. Everything just makes sense once you practice it some. Just my opinion, but stick with it if you’re just starting for sure

[@Stokenstein]

@@aj_dev_smith That's true, I definitely felt that way with the triggers when I started XL. My brain is definitely stuck on the Skate and XL control schemes as well. Switching between the three is tough!

[@abelinkinxvi1735]

This game is an exact example of how progression is big and learning curve is high. It feels good to get tricks right verses more arcade style skate games. My brain keeps transmitting skater xl controls. Bad habits

[@QuinzieGaming]

I like the casual skating videos, I don’t skate irl but I do play this a lot and you give me cool ideas and tricks to try out when you’re just ripping around!! But I’ll watch pretty much anything you post LOL

[@blink0394]

Would you recommend the game for someone who doesn‘t skate irl?

[@Jaedyn.Sanders]

@@blink0394 I use to skate when I was a kid but as I've gotten older I don't have much interest in skating but I still have fun with session. Makes you even want to grab a board and give it a go

[@QuinzieGaming]

@@blink0394 yes for sure! it can be very frustrating at times but it is very rewarding filming a crispy clip and watching it back. I watch a lot of video parts to learn new variations of tricks instead of just flicking the sticks and hoping for the best!!

[@Patty-P]

Manual catch takes so long to figure out, but I’ve had it on for months now, and it just feels so good once you get it

[@SlampthChompth]

I love where session is right now, you can really decide what kind of game you want to play. Whether you want to battle for individual tricks or for big lines, you’re able to dial in the difficulty.

[@donnyboi1990]

They got me fucked up with the manual controls and reverts. Also, I've already done 95% of the historical challenges. My hands hurt...

[@MadDgtl]

how does filming feel coming from vanilla xl? also when you get out of the tailslide at 6:52 it sounds like a sword unsheathing lmao

[@lillycrop3]

Having a great time so far! they need to update tre flips on xbox in goofy stance the scoop input isnt registering consistently.

[@counterfeitclone]

Iv been playing this and skater xl (on console) since 2019/2020 and once session patched up that horrid bail problem i always prefferd session over skate xl. Skate xl got easy pretty quick and wasnt that tech. Session, you really gotta try which is frustrating but insanely fun. Changing all your stats to what suits you style is dope. Dont get me wrong skate xl is fun if you wanna keep it simple and not get stressed out. I just wish you could customise your skaters features more in session like hair, facial hair, facial features and things like tattoos.

[@ballenwallen]

i wish grind/slide pop outs were more consistent. I hit the same nose slide over and over, but sometimes it flips out, sometimes it doesn't.

[@nixon2679]

0 grind alignment isn’t realistic, you slide out of grinds you normally wouldn’t in real life, 3 notches is probably the most realistic

[@rame6613]

I think I speak for most of us when I say we love to see u actually battle the tricks and take your time to get a good one.

[@fallofshadows2209]

I haven’t touched session in about a year, I’ve been playing Skater XL when I have time to game. Looking forward to getting home and playing with the settings in Session!

[@equaleyez]

Got the game yesterday, and only learned Skater XL two weeks ago. Every other skate game I've played since 2000 was a THPS... FRUSTRATING like skating in real life, the progress is rewarding and 360 flips are hard!!

[@g59fan50]

Because this game is absolute cheeks. Session only existed because Skate 4 didn't

[@zenooalotus]

i am amazed and schocked at the fact that garrett is skating a park from luxembourg called grund. it makes me happy to see that. u are very welcome to come visit grund/peitruss park anytime u want

[@jacobm445]

The switching of inputs when you turn 180° is so unnatural after skater xl. Not to mention the increased difficulty. So frustrating at first...

[@MansaX]

It has a different feeling than early access.

[@skittlemctitty]

Yep, I love it and the fact that it only feels up from here - 1.0 is the best base they could have released I think. It's one of those games too where it's hard to parse out criticism by people new to the game and the people who have more or less mastered it. I see people complaining about some bugs that aren't really bugs, or they're trying to do a trick while not knowing about to tweak their flip/stance/angle to make it work. But then there are very valid complaints as well. I enjoy some of the jank during my battle on a spot, it can add to the battle - but then there are things, that even the devs acknowledge, like some missing animations (especially for pushing/just generally riding around) or the pop glitch. Or the mission objectives bugs that have always existed. But as is it feels great, and to anyone who doesn't think so, if you're new please give it time. I like XL and Session, they're both worth your time. But if we're comparing the games at their base, Session is better in most aspects.

[@spookysock]

Nice I love the content because I don't have enough money to buy the game right now 👍

[@SirBukLaoo]

I feel that shit

[@alexsandronavarro6119]

Feel

[@TyGuyPS5]

Not worth 50 anyways

[@DripBae-less]

That and, there is a very good chance it will get discounted very quickly.

[@TyGuyPS5]

@@DripBae-less yup. Regret paying full price. Feels worse than skater xl and buggy as hell. Can’t finish missions half the time.

[@Cyberdio]

The sound of grinding is very good! The sound of iron in iron, is more accurate from reality

[@sonikboom007]

The audio in this game is probably the worst ive heard in any skate game ever.. are u people fucking deaf?! Lol

[@colin19273]

I couldn’t find out how to manual back-to-back, so after about 45 minutes of what should’ve been a simple mission (manual-gap-manual-gap-manual-flip out) made me end up putting a hole in my wall. Thanks session! (Also, if you’re having the same problem, you have to release all inputs and then manual)

[@PuurJarrett]

I hate how manual catch has to be frame perfect. Like I get it, realism, but catch it 0.01 second too early and you fall, catch it 0.01 second too late and it double flips. I really like the way manual catches work control wise though so it’s a shame

[@YoungGunMusic]

Once you get used to the controls, this game is golden

[@alexmullis6]

Honest question though. Garrett, did you have problems with doing 360 flips since the update? Because I redid my settings in the stats menu and I cannot for the life of me do 360 flips consistently anymore?.

[@TheNateGatsby]

I have over 700 hours in Skater XL and I'm just now trying out Session for the first time. I'm having a hard time just remembering how to ollie most of the time lol. Getting used to this game is gonna take some time.

[@LeonLein82]

I can't seem to flip trick to grind without the skater catching it in darkslide

[@chrisherndon3143]

Thanks for explaining how the back 180 switch 5-0’s work now I thought it was broken lol

[@alfieharries]

Do you they'll add in a transition animation from walking to skating?

[@gooneybird808]

I love watching the battle...it’s more impressive when you get it just like real skating...I knew this game would be bitchin

[@seanwatkins9196]

i need the controller overlay to stay! im having a hard time with some tricks and it help to see your inputs

[@ashmyblunt]

I only play in manual catch, so much more rewarding. It might take me close to a hour to get a line I like, but it’s way more fun than just doing it like 2nd try because it’s easy.

[@neonblack211]

do you ever use the side pop and what about back foot front foot control

[@willallan2844]

Do you already have a setting video out?

[@laurentlafortune5024]

Hey Garrett where do u get those wheels? They are fire

[@JustaSkater55]

Is the controls more like skate 3 or more like skater XL?

[@daegaskins3340]

bro literally put my controller down frustrated trying switch bs tail no pop out. and this was the video i clicked.

[@adambrandt1858]

0 grind alignment is bugged. It has been for a long time and physically pushes you off ledges but it doesnt seem to on rails. In real life on a ledge 50 50 even tho your trucks are diagonal you can still hold your weight over on the side to balance. But in the game there is no weight shift mechanic so they have to cheat and use techniques to push you off if its not perfect. They just need to tweak it a little bit. Or make the character physically shift his weight over to stay on.

[@KJ_Styles]

During one of JL's recent live streams even one of the devs said in chat that grind alignment 0 isn't really for playing. 😂 So, I don't even bother. I usually have it on 3 or 4.

[@cm1_g766]

In my opinion 1.0 is terrible. The version before was better. I can’t even darkslide anymore or have they changed how to do it?

[@lifethoughts5177]

in grind settings

[@cm1_g766]

@@lifethoughts5177 yeah I’ve turned it on and it doesn’t work like how it used to

[@chrisL0430]

Dude where do i get the dlc and this park???

[@1800milkcarton]

How do you choose what side you pop out on

[@UncleLiberty76]

I feel like hard mode videos with fails are pretty sick. I enjoyed the commentary on trying to pull off a 50/50

[@SNOwyte]

It piss me off how there is no grabs in it now

[@the_last_mou]

when u use no release in grinds u dont need to release the input to flips and 180 flip variations, just flick it an move the stick to de grind position. 360 flips variations need to release the input and catch it. try no release grinds its a good path to full release

[@silvg8264]

1:10 I live like 2 hours driving from there let’s go together

[@shaneWARs1]

You can get up that ledge with that pop setting just got to bone it out lol

[@chrismaw5117]

How did you get the dlc I got the game when it first arrived to Xbox and I don't see it in my maps

[@69-Dwayne_pipe]

I just want a super sick skate 4 with the skate 3 controls

[@adamisaac4264]

This game is amazing. But yes very frustrating. I don’t know how to pop out of a 50-50. Need to for a quest but my guy just bails. I wanted to smash my tv after an hour of that

[@KJ_Styles]

I like the rough cut style of videos. Maybe even prevents people getting to frustrated when they start playing session themselves after seeing you nail next to everything. It gives a more honest view on the game, I'd say.

[@f1ssher]

It tells me to talk to donovan and meet the locals but after i talk to him nothing happens

[@rendzen3586]

Take another mission in Skater logs > Missions. Choose another one because you need to complete a bunch of those. Need to earn more respect (xp) to continiue this one

[@WeWereOnline]

when you said "disgusting" then redid the trick, at that point i liked and subbed.

[@legumanigo]

Keep training with manual catch. I've been practicing for a year now and it almost turned a second nature. The beginning is hard tho.

[@eggjones6039]

Blunts with the stick always looked cleaner one of my go to tricks its too fye

[@jakobicobb3447]

does anyone know why when i land the reverts don't work?

[@arnoldwiseman3249]

Is there a way to slow down the animation when gets on and off the board? It’s seems like the board just teleports into his hand at the moment

[@E-Bizzy]

Nah that's just how it is. They def got a lot of work to do still

[@MrBobZimmerman]

how do you get those two maps.?

[@sonikboom007]

its a fucking meh game.... putting together lines is near impossible. im stuck on the LES line challange and im ready to focus my playstation lol

[@MrCDAJR]

It’s too much right? It’s a miserable experience sometimes

[@sonikboom007]

@@MrCDAJR absolutely too much. Things are scaled in distance close to real life which is great for some things but when ur whippin from obstical to obstical trying to put a 4 part line together for a challange its just not fun at all... its masochistic.

[@lifethoughts5177]

@@sonikboom007 Skate Sim btw

[@sonikboom007]

@@lifethoughts5177 ya... and ive been skating since 84 lol.... and this games a shit ton harder

[@Yitzaak]

I honestly don't get frustrated with this game at all. I love the slams just as much as the land. Its just skateboarding without the pain. Lol.

[@fulmetang]

I really just need multiplayer and I would grind this game 24/7. I wanna test my skills with other players because I’m really competitive. They could add simple game of skate mode. Idc if there’s even lots of bugs and you get a letter for landing the right trick half the time I really wanna just play against other players.

[@26416kwegman]

Is there a feature you can turn on Where it tells you what tricks you hit in game? I've always loved skateboarding games but I've never been a skate boarder so I don't know names for alot of tricks.

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

Ya you can turn on trick names, I'm not sure where the setting is located tho

[@GarrettGinnerGaming]

Yeah you can! It’s under display settings. I’ll turn it on for my next Session video

[@nedhearbtw6657]

plese could someone tell me how to fix the dlc i cnt buy anything branded its in the dlc installed section but wont work

[@whey4671]

graphic settings?

[@krissifadwa]

what i love about "session" at 00:53

[@stz-zen421]

One of the historical challenges at Jerome banks won’t work the static line one anyone got anything similar happening to them

[@pierreanisimov1771]

yoo Peitruss, this is my hometown skatepark!! such a good park and representation of it. very scenic spot in the heart of the city centre, sits in the valey dividing two plateaus!

[@adrianhopper3287]

I can't find these parks in my game?

[@ryanwarner4704]

great vid. fun catching up on stream today

[@christians131]

I kinda want to get a game system at my place just to play this and skater XL but I’ll end up playing it too much

[@truthserum3050]

this is like skate 3 but with an emphasis on realism.

[@Tocco609]

Do you have a link to your discord? I'd love to try to set my game up how you have it!