Seth Green never accounted for Buffy HD.

Amazon's HD release has some cropping issues, and I'm glad that it does.

[@lkgrave4959]

Seth Green: The only cast member to be in both the movie and tv show.

[@Taverens_Pull]

Only in a deleted scene for the movie...either that or a directors cut i haven't seen.

[@coloraddiction]

​@Taverens_Pull he is credited on IMDB as a vampire, so it might have been very brief or very background (or both) maybe he was at the gym at the end 😂

[@Tcarichards]

What? Honestly don’t recall him in the original

[@nightwingjosh8491]

It's also interesting that he's worked with Sarah and Alyson since they were children

[@lkgrave4959]

@@nightwingjosh8491 My Stepmother is an Alien.

[@eddthehead123]

The best part is that it totally fits Oz's character to be doing that.

[@DONTEATTHEPIE]

he's got a lotta thoughts 🤣

[@anodosarcade7355]

I watched it twice Doing what?

[@terrycullen3302]

@@anodosarcade7355 Just focus on Seth in this scene. He appears to be interacting with someone off camera, and looks to mouth something just after Willow says "What are you doing, Buffy?". Or, the actor who plays Xander might be whispering something to him, and he's reacting to that. Either way, I don't think Seth knew he was in the shot.

[@eddthehead123]

@@anodosarcade7355 Doing dooting things 'off-camera'

[@Tilith]

He's just acting like he's checking out the cheerleaders, winking at them in a flirty manier, smiling in awe, etc... it's just sitcom acting. @@terrycullen3302

[@kitano0]

I just love Aly...always have...her line "What are you doing, Buffy?" is so simple, yet she makes it so sweet. Been watching her on "Dancing with the Stars" recently....she's still so exuberant and cute...at 49! Sheesh, time flies...

[@carolcyr8553]

I always like watching early Buffy episodes because they were shot at my high school, Torrance High. It's so weird seeing all these places that I walked through in real life multiple times, on the screen. Beverly Hills 90210 too.

[@kitano0]

Wasn't "Bring it On" also shot there? And the lead character is named Torrance, too!

[@carolcyr8553]

@@kitano0 I like that first name. But looking at IMDB, it looks like "Bring It On" was shot in the San Diego area.

[@daviswiggin4425]

my mom went there too!

[@carolcyr8553]

@@daviswiggin4425 Go Tartars!

[@newperve]

"I always go straight to the obits" The thing is that line could be ironic or not.

[@JDeppFan2272]

It's Sunnydale. The Obits are the most important part of any paper!

[@jonathanstern5537]

@@JDeppFan2272 Well... the largest section of the paper anyway.

[@samanthac.349]

Take it from someone who did background work in college: never assume you’re not in frame.

[@oBuLLzEyEo1013]

No one asked...

[@cuckoobrain7999]

@@oBuLLzEyEo1013 What they said was clearly relevant stfu

[@thac0twenty377]

​@@oBuLLzEyEo1013didn't ask you either

[@josefinarivia]

@@oBuLLzEyEo1013 I thought it was interesting, never assume everyone thinks like you.

[@Harri_James]

In the original aspect ratio he wasn't though.

[@low_bitrate_detected]

“WHY Y’ALL GOTTA WASTE MY FLAVA?? DAMN!!”

[@HopelessHermit]

It's like Nicholas Brendon is leaning over every shot and is whispering something funny to Seth Green

[@LLivLLaffLLuv]

The real problem is that the show was not protected for this aspect ratio, which was retroactively applied to the HD cut. There are a lot of problems like this in the HD remaster.

[@WalkerForestShortFilm-st2iz]

I've heard there were a lot of problems like that. Actors looking like garbage because they were only there to deliver lines offscreen, removing the filters so vampires are suddenly standing in the middle of the sun, CGI missing on the sides for the same reason.

[@RaineInChaos]

I have heard of these things a bunch of times but I have no effing attention I never notice anything but what's right in front of me haha

[@natebetzen]

In a climactic scene between Buffy and Willow, the side shows some cars driving by them, completely ignoring the crazy magic that Willow is supposedly channeling

[@DustinHayre]

The Seinfeld HD remaster had the same problems. It was shot only considering 4:3 framing, so there's quite a bit of stuff that wasn't intended to be seen.

[@NorthernChev]

What is “this”? What did we see that we weren’t supposed to see? I see nothing wrong in this scene but everyone else does. What am I missing here?

[@toomuchtimeonourhands2891]

Hes looking at cheerleaders. There are all kinds of reasons that character might be smiling.

[@OpinionParade]

Their school paper has an obituary section, lol.

[@shainal.joseph5374]

Yeah it's Sunnydale high

[@VRIceblast]

Jeez, I've watched this show so many times, and just notice this, and came here wondering if anyone else did. Apparently death is pretty normal around there, smh

[@muck4227]

Tee-hee. That was the whole oint of the joke. *p

[@OpinionParade]

@@muck4227 Not really.

[@muck4227]

no, really.

[@kathleenspeller5484]

God buffy HD was just a mess xD love how the fight between buffy and faith, on the roof, in season 3 you can see the whole camera crew

[@joshfactor1]

it's too bad he didn't stick around but oz was great

[@rune2O2O]

Oh my gosh

[@AWriterWandering]

They really really need to stop trying to make these shows widescreen. They were never intended to be widescreen.

[@bobson3014]

It's because some people refuse to watch anything that looks "old".

[@mainstreetsaint36]

@@bobson3014 A proper HD remaster will look great, even in 4x3 AR.

[@bobson3014]

@@mainstreetsaint36 Sure, and people will refuse to watch it.

[@JazzGuitarNoob]

@@bobson3014 I imagine those people aren't going to watch it for that reason, regardless of the aspect ratio.

[@bobson3014]

@@JazzGuitarNoob No. There are plenty of people that will watch older stuff, but only if it's in colour and in widescreen. That's why they do it.

[@philspecialmeter]

He doesn't mouth anything. He just looks amused by the cheerleaders in what appears to be a more ironic than sexual kind of way. This doesn't look like a case of not realizing he was in the shot 'cause if that were true he either wouldn't be sitting there at all or he wouldn't be doing anything. Seth's been acting since he was a little kid. I doubt he would do anything distracting or mentally check out while his castmates/friends are trying to work right next to him.

[@TheHumanPurpleTape]

The aspect ratio for classic tv would have cut him out, meaning he never knew there would be a version where he's in-frame.

[@philspecialmeter]

@TheHumanPurpleTape My point is that he's still in character. My additional point is that he's literally right next his fellow actors who he absolutely knows they're rolling on. No way he's going to be goofing off or doing anything distracting right next to actors & crew who are working to get a shot, much less one of them being the series lead who came up with him as a child actor. Even if he has zero reason to believe he's in the shot, with that kind of proximity to actors who are doing a scene, he'd either just sit still and quiet, or do what he's doing here and hold the space, giving subtle background actor style reactions. Or he'd be excused to step away 'til he's needed. Not saying there's never goofing around on set, especially among actors, but when you're literally just off camera while a scene is being shot with dialogue... like everyone on set wants to go home on time, dude.

[@TheHumanPurpleTape]

@@philspecialmeter All good points.

[@gurjeetbara7192]

You can still have HD in 4:3 ratio. I have Star Trek on Blu-ray and it's HD in 4:3. I really hope this happens for Buffy

[@bobson3014]

Yeah. All shows from pre widescreen days should be kept as 4:3. In the case of Star Trek, they didn't have a choice. They only built some of the sets or added effects to fit within 4:3. If they did release it in Widescreen, we'd see more than Seth goofing off. We'd see puppeteers, Phasers suddenly stopping and the warehouse they built their desert planet in.

[@112428]

@@bobson3014 Except that's exactly what happened for Buffy in HD / widescreen. In some episodes you can see the crew members and the camera rigs.

[@bobson3014]

@@112428 I know but it was minor enough that the execs could justify releasing it this way. For Start Trek its a non starter. Its every scene in every episode. We're not talking about the boom operator peeking into shot in the location. We're talking about the location not being there. I'm glad Star Trek were forced into releasing the episodes in the Original Aspect Ratio but there really was no other option.

[@SeerMagicX]

They filmed season 4 on in widescreen, it's mostly fine. Literally a few scenes out of thousands shot being off is worth it for what you get. There is a new HD of buffy out there that is much better than the older one. Season one I completely agree, it should have been remastered in 4:3. It's way too zoomed in. Season 2 and 3 though, I'm fine with it in widescreen. It's too zoomed in, but not nearly as bad as season 1. And again, I think it's worth the trade off for HD.

[@bobson3014]

@@SeerMagicX Why do you want a trade off at all? They could have just remaster it in HD in 4:3.

[@ilmalocchio]

I don't understand. Am I supposed to be noticing something here?

[@Scientist_Salarian]

All I can hear is Joker from Mass Effect. His best role ever.

[@MiBrCo4177]

lol yeah loved him as Joker, hopefully ME4 has some decent references to ME1-3 and the rest of the team recorded some lines or something. would be awesome to see.

[@LadyOhEvans]

never thought i would say this, but Thank you Buffy HD. LMAO

[@ejmcguinness6875]

Why for?

[@brassmule]

@@ejmcguinness6875 The currently released HD versions of Buffy are a disgrace to the show, its actors and creators, television as a whole, and to all of humanity. There are not fully words yet invented to describe how appalling awful it is, how lazy the effort was, how many corners were cut, and how disastrous the release was. To find something nice to say about it is a rarity indeed.

[@ejmcguinness6875]

​@brassmule that's why I'm trying to figure out what she's happy about.

[@LadyOhEvans]

thats why i said "never thought i would say this",, and added LMAO in the end? it was still fun to see Seth's funny face which we would otherwise not see @@brassmule

[@startingQB]

Am I missing it... I don't see anything wrong.

[@bobbyfitzgerald4165]

Oz rarely smiles. Hes usually flat and broody. Kinda like Angel

[@michelled.4874]

He was a regular for all of season 3 and he's an endearing character with a heart of gold who helped Buffy, Willow and Xander save the world a number of times, especially in the final battle at the end of season 3 where he leads a group of students who attack the giant snake. He would have done anything to keep Willow safe. And in the prom episode, when Willow and Xander are panicking, he keeps his cool and show unshakable faith in Buffy and her abilities, to Willow who said "Maybe we should dance before we get besieged, bedeviled, or beheaded or something. You're not even a little nervous?", he replies "It's not gonna happen. You think Buffy is going to let us down"? This character is endearing and you can't help but like him. Buffy HD really can't do anything right. Fuck that shit.

[@JHollowayNetwork]

He was a series regular for most of season 3 and part of season 4 until "Wild at Heart" (where soon afterwards he was replaced by James Masters (Spike) and took his spot in the opening credits). He started off as a recurring character for season 2 ("Inca Mummy Girl", "Halloween" episode, "What's My Line, Pts. 1-2" (where he dyed his hair black for the "Can't Hardly Wait" film), "Surprise"/"Innocence", "Phases" (which mainly focused on him), "Bewitched, Bothered & Bewildered" (Valentine's Day episode), "Becoming, Pts. 1-2" etc...)

[@Thomas_of_the_forest]

Yes

[@stuartomahony1847]

He was a regular character for all of season three as far as I know

[@Josh01815]

"Nothing.☺️....🥺😳checking for horns..."

[@ovinophile]

Oz and Xander are looking at the cheerleaders. If anything, he played it exactly as if he were in the shot.

[@PeterAlanJohnson]

OK, I see the problems with the HD versions- often scenes are way too bright, but in other ways these remasters are really good- much better than the murky DVD boxsets I spent a fortune on back then.

[@zwordsman]

I see nothing wrong considering thats oz

[@terrycullen3302]

It doesn't really make sense in the context of the scene, though. Because he goes from listening to Willow, and being present in the conversation, to having some lighthearted interaction with someone off screen. His energy is completely different depending on the shot.

[@mattyryon]

@@terrycullen3302 That is just the on site crew not accounting for continuity, he was in the camera shot still and was in character. I had to watch this like 4 times to see what he did wrong and it is literally nothing, this upload is a waste of time

[@brownsey1]

​@@mattyryonWhat are you talking about? 😂

[@joshfactor1]

I swear sunnydale high is the only school paper in the world with obits

[@pineapplesauce4823]

We need a better HD remaster of this show and Angel

[@reh3884]

The big problem is with idiots who think HD equals widescreen. It's the same group of idiots that made us put up with pan & scan in the days of the CRT TVs.

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

As funny as this, and many other parts of the botched HD release are, I kinda just wish they did it right. Why do so many companies get this wrong?

[@stephen2501]

Took me a moment till I saw what he was doing lol

[@mrsynth2643]

Sorry what is it i really cant notice

[@Leo-sd3jt]

@@mrsynth2643 He thinks that he's out of the shot (which he would be in a 4:3 screen format) so he's not in character mode

[@davidjames579]

​. But he's still acting, so he must think he is on camera.

[@Leo-sd3jt]

@@davidjames579 he's making faces and smiling but in the shots where he's in the center of the screen, he doesn't have a smile on his face and he's sitting still

[@davidjames579]

@@Leo-sd3jt just bad direction and editing.

[@user-hq4hc1ix3y]

... same school from "She's All That" (1999), right ?

[@creaturesfromelsewhere203]

Correct. Torrence Highschool.

[@clmviolet2103]

@@creaturesfromelsewhere203Torrance *

[@creaturesfromelsewhere203]

@@clmviolet2103 Whoops - typo!

[@SuperlativeCG]

And the original 90210 TV show.

[@thebandit0256]

Scotty Don't

[@CombatMagic]

Buffy HD really can't do anything right

[@heatheraucoin5832]

I remember when Spike and Buffy hooked up and the morning of, Spike is naked but when he rolls over, you can see the nude underwear

[@joyxcore2]

Legit haircut and color for 2023 thou

[@iloveejasper]

I don't get it, can someone plz explain :)

[@carmen_says_hi]

Watch him while Buffy and Willow are talking.

[@Kriizikaan]

in the original version, the ratio is 4:3 so you wouldn't see him in a lot of these shots. They managed to restore some parts that would have been cut off, but since he's aware he's "not in the shot" he's making faces. In many of the other scenes in the HD version they also have clear shots of camera and crew and a guy holding a boom mic on a sound stage during an action scene. Overall a pretty terrible remaster.

[@coomservative]

the character is a cynic so it’s not crazy he’d be making those faces, they are barely noticeable imo

[@Coliver]

@@Kriizikaan One of those instances where they should have just left it in 4:3.

[@davidjames579]

​. His character is reacting to the lame cheerleader display. Seth Green is a seasoned professional. He wouldn't be pulling faces while his colleagues are acting.

[@emanuelmayer]

In the last scene, he seems to look in the camera ....

[@NorthernChev]

C'mon, guys. He's winking at and throwing suggestive faces at the girls cheerleading... Acting his part. I don't see this as "outside" of the scene. It's part OF the scene. Not sure why everybody is losing their minds over this as, "off script". It isn't.

[@archeewaters]

i love a good werewolf

[@d1g1cxlt_]

He’s so fine right here

[@mainstreetsaint36]

The people who did this remaster clearly didn't a flying you-know-what when did these remasters.

[@davidjames579]

It's fine

[@ianweber9248]

The framing issues at least aren’t their fault. The show was shot in and never intended to be viewed in anything other than a 4:3 aspect ratio. The real problem in this specific case is people who don’t understand letter/pillarboxing.

[@anubisfox5765]

Yall talking about him nodding at the cheerleaders he was already watching? Talk about a stretch

[@themarlboromandalorian]

He looks stoned.

[@Frankie-O]

Dr. Evil was no Frankenstein, lol!

[@ryancasey919]

Whatamimissing?

[@johncameron4194]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@matsuyamaalex]

First

[@SuperlativeCG]

"Seth Green never accounted for Buffy HD." - I was like huh? Your video title is confusing. I thought Oz is ignoring Buffy somehow and not that the director didn't account for him being in the frame.