SETO-HORI REMODEL Moving Coil Cartridge | First Look & Listen

Michael Fremer gives the SETO-HORI REMODEL MC cartridge a first listen ahead of his upcoming review.
From Fremer: JICO recently released the Seto-Hori Remodel- a cartridge in a plug-in headshell that's easily the most beautifully presented cartridge you've ever seen. Here you'll get to both see and hear it in the new Technics SL-1200GR2 turntable. To fully appreciate all of this, please read the exclusive full review of the SL-1200GR2 on the Trackingangle.com website!
The Seto-Hori Remodel is a 2mV output high output moving coil cartridge integrated into an aluminum/copper alloy CNC machined headshell that allows for overhang adjustment. In this video you'll see and hear it, so watch!
From Fremer: At a hotel adjacent to company headquarters, Bill Voss, Technics' American Business Development Manager, introduced the new $2199 "next gen" SL1200GR turntable featuring a revolutionary new Delta Sigma drive control technique said to produce smooth, accurate rotational stability and a new power supply similar to the one used in the top of the line SL-1000R, said to produce an exceptionally low noise floor. .
Based on the informal listening session featuring a complete Technics system it was clear that the new 'table is noticeably quiet and fitted with an Ortofon 2M Black, produced a smooth, pleasing, "musical" sound.
The system consisted of the SU-G700M2-S Digital Integrated Amplifier+ buiilt-in MM/MC phono preamp, SBG90M2 Floorstanding Loudspeakers. Despite no room treatment in the hotel room the sound was rich, warm, and pleasingly detailed reproducing a 1980 Technics-produced record featuring the LA4.
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[@CoastalEscapes777]

Mr. Fremer, Long time reader thank you for the years of enjoyment. Super happy to see you are still active and have moved on to a well-managed establishment. For a guy that can talk and write like the best there is, I'm supper excited to see and hear that you know when to shut up and drop the needle. Thank you. Please work on your recording technique as the sound quality is lacking for KZbin listening (tipped up, lacking low end). Other 'tubers have this sorted, however the list is short. I know you can get this worked out. Thanks again.

[@lwdp74]

I thought the xformer diminished the transients slightly and possibly reduced the noise floor, but I will listen again. Bluetooth buds aren’t too revealing! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@RetroView66]

That is the best looking cartridge box ever.

[@joshuaschneck]

Thanks for the review. Why do you Technics hasn’t/will not bring the sigma drive upgrade to their more expensive 1200G? Seems like not doing so would hurt sales of the 1200G

[@alexh743]

Love the sound so smooooooooth

[@bkatbamna]

Sounds great!

[@thepickyaudiophile]

I have listened to quite a few recordings of vinyl on KZbin by now and to me it often sound like “a bunch of midrange” or at least often somewhat thin, forward or peaky in the mids. Is this just the sound of vinyl? Help a vinyl curious digital fella out 😅

[@Error2username]

Prob🤣 why dont you buy a cheap turntabel and try it out👌? I use my tt now and then, but if i want to relax, cd or strm ftw.

[@ptbfrch]

I recommend visiting a hi-fi store where you can listen and compare for yourself. Maybe use records where you know the source is the same, like the Analogue Productions SACD and vinyl offerings. The fun thing (to enthusiasts, maybe the PITA to those who aren't), is that you change how it sounds by working on the turntable components, the setup thereof, and of course the cartridge and phono stage. You can change the sound a lot! So the 'sound of vinyl' is tough to describe.

[@thepickyaudiophile]

@@ptbfrch I guess my question is to try and understand if things in the vinyl world tend to "lean" in that direction.. 🙂 Truth be told I do own a decent TT that I played around with for a bit in the past. Between 20 odd records, two cartridges, phono stages (mainly built into amps I had) and matts, many tended to take things in a direction of mid forward/centric/lean, which are qualities I quite dislike. Currently I’m debating if it’s worth giving it another go with a better setup, but if these "qualities" are something I'll be battling with, maybe I should stay away.

[@Grimwriggler]

i had that lean midrange feeling too and decided to take a listen to older stuff from Garrard thorens, dual, lenco with some of the carts of the day , Shure philips stantons and the sound really is richer, not warmer, but more open than modern carts and direct drives. so i now stick with the classic stuff with original styli if possibe. Hope that helps

[@Darrylizer1]

It's the sound of whatever mics were used (if any), the compression and recording devices used to record the analog signal, and analog to digital converter, the file(s) resolution and the KZbin audio algorithm. Not to mention what you're listening to KZbin with. Listening to sound samples on KZbin is problematic at best and useless to determine the actual sound of a bit of equipment.

[@hectoralvarez941]

Good stuff

[@JW-ex1ux]

Wich SUT is used? It's interesting because most SUT delivers too much gain for high output MC's like Jico

[@keithfailmezger1596]

would that cartrige work ok with a parasound JC3+, ? i have the 1210G table ,, i am using a grado master 3 at the moment.. thank you

[@MD-cy6pe]

is the black version of that table out yet? 1210GR2 presumably?

[@sspe]

How would it sound on the Technics 1200G?

[@jedi-mic]

Still crap lol

[@edd2771]

With the same set up? Identical. Tables themselves (independent of cartridges) have a vanishingly small impact on sound, and in a blind compare no human can tell two techniques direct drive tables costing within $1,000 of each other apart where the table itself is the only difference. Feel free to choose between two adjacent models due to features, aesthetics, build quality etc, but don’t expect sonic differences. If they exist they are indiscernible to the human ear. Above $2k, diminishing returns sets in on tables in a big way. This is also true of cables, isolation feet, platter mats, record weights and all such nonsense that is outside the signal chain and deployed on an otherwise competent system.

[@labalo5]

Fremer!!!!

[@budsmoker4201120]

I just dont get the people who say cartridge cost to much for a turntable.......... a techniques table is as good as any turntable. A table turns the records and damps vibration that is it. People think to much and pay to much for tables. Get a solid a table and spend your money on good carts, phonostage, and speakers. And enjoy.

[@JVH-b2u]

New test on the G...😮

[@dondrewecki1909]

These clips sound like they're in mono.

[@dondrewecki1909]

The Neil Young clip is also in mono.

[@thomosburn8740]

Michael, your vinyl rips are mono in the video . . . truly nice sound otherwise.

[@paulomontero12]

Jack in the box?

[@twentytabs]

Is it just me, but without the transformer the piano is much too prominent and drowns out the double bass. Whereas with the transformer there's a greater balance and sense of synergy as a band.

[@jedi-mic]

Why does your TT run at 50 Hz should be 60 Hz in your country

[@edd2771]

In a blind compare, two techniques belt drive (or two direct drive) tables costing within $1,000 of each other will be sonically indistinguishable from each other when all other factors and DB level are held constant. It is madness to suggest people can hear otherwise from a change only to the table itself especially with respect to adjacent models from the same manufacturer using the same design (eg belt or direct drive). Stop the insanity please.

[@veniceog]

You missed entirely that Fremer was demonstrating the cartridge, not the turntable, direct to his phono preamp, and with a SUT in between. Stop the stupidity.

[@edd2771]

@@veniceog You missed the fact that at the very end he dismissed “people” who say tables themselves do not have a unique sound. It so happens I’m such a person, hence my comment. Stop the presumptuousness.

[@jm_1214]

@@edd2771 I have to say that over many years I've found that everything makes a difference. No matter how small

[@edd2771]

@@jm_1214 I agree many things make a difference. No argument. But two tables (not cartridges mind you) by the same maker and occupying adjacent spots in the range will be indistinguishable in a truly blind compare with all else held equal. Now, the tables must be the same topology if you will- both belt drive or direct drive. Would any of us bet our savings that we can correctly identify which table is which in such a scenario? Take any maker- Could anyone tell the difference between a rega P3 and P5 under such conditions? I couldn’t. Fremer says he could. I’m merely calling his bluff and pointing out what is abject lunacy in favor of common sense.