Seven Of The Best PC Controllers

[@matt4045]

Dualshock 4's touchpad also functions as a mouse.

[@shocktriple]

Nice.

[@muizzsiddique]

It can. You can reprogram it to do anything else on Steam.

[@diggerpy]

@@muizzsiddique yeah

[@ss304_82]

Thanks for the info. I am looking forward to buy it.

[@ThePyro3825]

The best controller ever made would just be a revised Xbox One Elite with the Xbox 360's shoulder buttons and the Sega Saturn's d-pad.

[@supersonics5000]

Agree

[@SubTract04]

+ThePyro721 The new xbox one controllers (with the headphone jack) including the elite fixed the stupid hinged bumper thing.

[@MrSlashStudios]

+Sub-Tract I have that one and the shoulder buttons are exactly the same click-wise as the Xbox 360.

Yep, shoulder buttons in the Xone controller are AWFUL

[@Heysahs007]

perfect. Sega Saturn dpad hands down.

[@Gorkab]

Hum, I do have an Xbox One "classic" controller with wireless dongle, and guess what? I'm on Windows 8.1, and it works perfectly. There's a driver for Windows 7 as well, so you might check that before saying it's only compatible with Windows 10 :/

[@ExcrementEater69]

^^^

[@SolidousMdz]

+Gorkab Yes he is misleading on the video. Really bad how ppl downplay it on the midia.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

+Javier Miglino or mac!

[@JordanCS7]

+Moreno A It used to be only compatible with win10, but is now comparible with the rest. I guess he wasn't totally up to date xp

[@Gorkab]

+JordanCS7 Yeah, three months late 😝

[@BajaBlastUrUterus42069]

Best pads: Fighting games: Any arcade stick, such as the Hori RAP (except for Netherrealm Games fighting games. Those are best with the dualshock 4) Racing games: Xbox One Elite or Razer Wolverine Controller, or a racing wheel setup RPG / 2D Platformers: 8bitduo SN30 Pro Old school racing games (specifically those in the need for speed most wanted 2005 era): Dualshock 2 or Xbox 360 Controller Shooting games: Mouse and Keyboard

[@luismiranda8944]

I've used the PS4, X360, X1 and Steam controller on my PC, and I have grown to love the Steam controller. I had a really tough learning curve with it (which is definitely a flaw), but once I figured out how to integrate gyro controls, it has become my go-to controller. I'd really recommend tying gyro to left trigger ADS in shooters, or on to the right touch pad if vehicles are involved (left trigger is usually the brakes).

[@RAFID]

in my opinion the xbox 360 controller is best for pc cause that's the only controller i have used for pc.

[@officialcyberjab]

Same

[@supersonics5000]

Agree

[@erickh555]

you here? rafid, go to sleep and dream about the division ok thats too much

[@pepo6525]

I agree

[@rupal_hs]

indeed

[@BRBWaffles]

Steam Controller all the way. I just suck with analog sticks, and I was always a PC gamer growing up, even in the 90s. So, the trackpads are far more intuitive to me than any controller has been yet.

[@stankostankochunt5837]

The trackpad isn't the problem with it imo. It's more the shape that's quite annoying - a bit too large and bulky

[@WiseGuy3683]

Wii U Pro controller is my controller of choice for PC. It uses a Bluetooth connection, it has 80 hours of battery life, it works with everything my 360 controller works with, its d-pad and face buttons feel fantastic and work extremely well, the shell is the perfect size for me and is extremely comfortable, analog placement is different but also adds to the comfort, pressing the shoulder buttons doesn't put any strain on the hand at all, and while the rubber on the analogs isn't concave, my fingers don't slip and the rubber doesn't break, wear quickly, or hurt my thumb after repeated use. The downside is the triggers aren't analog and while the rubber on the analogs is great, the analogs themselves have a bit of a dead zone and don't feel as tight as either the 360's analogs or the dual shock 4's analogs. If you're looking to use a controller for racing games, you're probably better off getting something different with actual analog triggers but for games you'd want to use a dpad and face buttons with, such as fighters and platformers, you'd be hard pressed to find a better suited controller.

[@JoshuaBirnholz]

Surprisingly, one of my favorite PC controllers is the Wii U Pro Controller. With a compatible bluetooth adapter and the WiinUSoft drivers, you can use the Wii U Pro Controller on PC. It's extremely comfortable, not too heavy, and has an astounding 80 hours of battery life on a single charge. Its excellent d-pad is great for playing platformers like Shovel Knight on PC. It only communicates over Bluetooth, though (the Mini USB port is just for charging) and it lacks analog triggers, though I personally haven't found either of things to be issues in any of the games I've played with it.

[@AvatarRishi]

Lmao that joke at 6:29 was perfect! Never knew Richard was great at jokes

[@Petersorg]

360 controller ftw. Have been using it for years and just bought some rechargeable batteries..they last a lot of time before I need to recharge them. Best controller ever made IMO.

[@Bigdaddymittens]

The afterglow wired pad, for the 360 is awesome, too, as it works on PC, and it's the exact same, as a 360 pad, but at half the price. Plus, it looks cool. I use it with all my PC games.

[@ShindlerReal]

I've used DS3 for ages on PC and not going to change it. It works perfectly, very light and comfortable. Windows recognizes it as Xbox 360 controller with proper drivers. I'd advise to reprogram trigger and bumpers though. Switch them to shoot with R1, not R2.

[@StrikerBOII]

This

[@kodemasterx]

Ditto man... The better DS3 drivers are the best, I got my DS3 back in 2008 and still kicking but online

[@DarkZeroInside]

+HE1NZ DS3 triggers and analog sticks are horrible, but the d-pad, oh god, that d-pad is great!

[@UltraPrimeHunter]

+HE1NZ I never understood how people could enjoy playing shooting games with the bumpers as fire buttons....i mean theyre better than the triggers on the ds3, but using the bumpers for a good controller would just make you look like an idiot. 360 controller all the way.

[@DarkZeroInside]

Skip DS3 or DS4, get a X360 or a XOne Controlller, i love Sony but i have to admit Microsoft have better controllers.

[@drunkenroundtable]

About 6 months ago, I got a wireless X-Box 1S controller. It connects via Blue Tooth. I've never used a wireless controller for either console, or PC, so I was really surprised how long the two AA batteries lasted.

[@jeremiah23924]

Steam Controller Master Race! Seriously its amazing! You need to spend more then a week and set up some custom layouts, you didn't even mention the gyro or anything about remapping. And the bit about having to jump through hoops to get nonSteam games to work is just user error. I use my Steam controller for every game on my computer, doesn't mater if its a Origan or Uplay game you just add it to your Steam library... I guess old people just like plug and play, I like being able to do what I want and make it my own. You can buy 3 Steam controllers for the price of the elite and you get a wireless dongle with every steam controller.

[@HamsterXFiles]

Said one man.

[@JubalVoid]

+Jeremiah239 In fairness MOST people want just plug and play, especially with something as old [in concept at least] as controllers. I love my Steam Controller, but you definitely have to work to get it just right [both in configuration and in adjusting to the control scheme].

[@jasperhawkins9152]

I know im 4 years late, but i totally agree

[@1chiTheKiller]

I have never had any connection issues when using my Elite wired into the computer. Got a Steam controller recently and I've loved using it.

[@Shayman94]

I find the Logitech F-310 controller to be very good as well :D.

[@Kinta02]

the steam controller is to controllers what pc is to gaming. a little learning curve, you get out what you put into it but once you got the hang and experienced its glory you realize that it indeed is the best gaming pad for pretty much 95% of games out there (yes, even platformers and fighting games)

[@SirCrest]

That second camera cutaway was legit clever.

[@taegire]

I use the Xbox One Elite and the Xbox One Lunar White. I love the diamond grips attached to the back.

[@Diviance]

WIi U Pro controller with a Mayflash USB dongle to make it emulate a 360 controller is my weapon of choice. Absurd battery life, weighs nearly nothing and works flawlessly.

[@dinoseen3226]

You've missed a big one. Wii U PRO Controller.

[@mvnkycheez]

+dino seen this. i don't have one (thoughi do own a wii u) but i see a lot of people who own it and say its got the best design, althoug the d-pad and triggers are where it trips

[@dinoseen3226]

munky cheez Yeah, main reason I'm interested in it is because it's the best design for twinstick shooters, Isaac included. Better than any other. Really good for certain uses (if you're going to have multiple controllers, it should be one of them) but extremely poor for general use due to the lack of analog triggers. So many games require that feature, and you're SOL if you're using the wii u pro controller. Only change or addition I would make would be an extra button near start/select, so I can spam reset on Isaac without moving my arm to the keyboard. Pretty sure there are wireless buttons you can just stick onto things (unbox therapy did a video, "add buttons to your phone" or something like that), so luckily that's an easy change to make.

[@ToureTaylor]

@@mvnkycheez I agree with the d-pad.

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

@@Adam_Zielinski Rubbish

[@Zapp4rn]

@@Adam_Zielinski yep

[@Fahrenheit38]

This bullshit about taking AA batteries being a negative needs to stop. Since when was using non proprietary things bad? When that DS4 battery goes dead your stuck buying knock off ebay units to replace it (plus the 6 hours of life you get out of it when the battery is new and healthy) meanwhile with regular old AA you can pop right on amazon, get some Eneloop and a charger and be set.

[@Roman9441]

haha i'm with u when i'm purchase controller, I prefer the one with AA battery

[@spike2000uk]

AA lithium batteries are the answer!

[@fukuharasan]

Exactly this!!

[@SizzlingOne]

Just when I'm on the market for a new set of pads! Thanks for this Richard. Excellent work (and again timely) as well.

[@ChrisR3tro]

Hey Richard, you have mentioned input lag when using the PS4 controller with the PC. Now, I like the PS4 controlelr a lot, but input lag is always a real deal breaker with me. What I'd be interested in, is if the PS4 controller also exhibits this input lag when used with the PS4 and if it exists in both wireless and wired mode. I'd love a video about input lag in input devices. Anyway, thanks for this video and keep up the good work. Chris

[@MohammedMohammed-rd9fc]

Richard, If you want a more accurate number for the introduced latency from DS4Windows and InputMapper, go into Windows' game controller settings and compare the properties output from the "Wireless Controller" that is the DS4 against the output for the emulated 360 pad. Any latency will show up between the two without having to eyeball results in a game which can be inaccurate as different controllers have differing points of tactile feedback relative to the actual button press. Higher refresh rates on the monitor used will decrease the margin of error when measuring.

[@warweeny5127]

The logitec F310 or F710 were good controllers last time i checked them out.

[@nikkeipvck8529]

are they still??

[@claudepatrao4306]

@@nikkeipvck8529 Yeah I am using the f310 for over 6 years now and still going strong.

[@JeyLast]

Microsoft Xbox wired Controller is the best.. no input lag.. no battery.. just plug and play.. and affordable.

[@93bendzsi]

and a shitty dpad, so yeah, not the best

[@b3at2]

93bendzsi the d pad is the weakest link..however shooters are the top seller of game.. its best for shooters.

[@megagtfo8953]

using a controller for shooters on pc is basically shooting yourself in the foot

[@93bendzsi]

MegaGtfo Unless you have the auto aim option ;)

[@TioMegamanX]

The only downside in fact, I am looking for a spare and wireless controller just for that aspect alone.

[@bisalwayswright88]

I know this video is from a year ago, but the Switch Pro Controller is genuinely my favourite controller I've used- after a while setting it up on steam, I've configured it for most of my games and the fact it runs natively on Windows 10 without any other drivers is perfect

[@gcraneorigami]

Thx, I'm trying to find a controller for csgo

[@xuvial1391]

y u do dis

[@AlmightyBlight]

+Gavin Crane This comment really rustled my jimmies

[@AlucardaPapere]

+Gavin Crane For cs go you should buy a steam controller

[@AlucardaPapere]

***** I know, playing cs go with a controller is horrible, you should play with a mouse and keyboard, but if you want to play it with a controller, the steam controller is the best choice out there thanks to the precise gyro aiming

[@pikuvava]

+Gavin Crane CS:GO would be really fun with a controller if you wouldn't have to control the patterns. But well CS:GO is a competitive PC game and it's made to be played with a mouse.

[@D4RKFiB3R]

Hi Rich, I've got a couple of comments regarding the video production. Was it really shot in 1080p? the image seems very soft, or slightly out of focus. Also, the backing track has this constant tap, tap, tap.... tap, tap, tap sound which was super annoying. Anyways, thanks for the video. One of my favorite controller setups was dual welding N64 pads in Golden Eye so that you could have 2 analogue sticks. Good times :D

[@michaelwhite5641]

Maybe we should all chip in & buy Rich a rechargeable battery for his X1 Elite controller, it's only £8

[@Styleshift88]

This was a DAMN good review. You even noted that there were latency issues with the PS4 controller. (When being used for the PC.) Thank you. This review helped me greatly. Looks like I'm sticking with my 360 controller until I can afford an elite controller.

[@SikSlayer]

The Xbox One wireless dongle works on Windows 7. Microsoft released drivers for it.

[@Pan_Z]

I have a wired Xbox One controller though. Purely wired. Are wired Xbox One controller's just not available in the UK?

[@RandomGaminginHD]

oh I'm here early. Erm, let me give you all a recipe, Take one glass, Take 250ml of water Apply water to glass, TaDa! A perfect glass of water Great video BTW :)

[@SWATRIOTCNTRL]

+RandomGaminginHD hey man I recently subbed to your channel last week and I got to say keep it up!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

+Andrew Harvey (SWAT RIOT CNTRL) Hey thanks man :) I appreciate it hugely

[@Pl4sm4Ro4ch]

+RandomGaminginHD instructions unclear. balls stuck in blender

[@RandomGaminginHD]

+Pl4sm4Ro4ch Yeah I got my dick stuck in the refrigerator door the first couple tries. You'll get the hang of the recipe soon enough though

[@harshalshetty9865]

RandomGaminginHD hey man

[@sewer56lol]

@DigitalFoundry Would it be possible to have an analysis on input latency, deadzones and other similar factors per controller? I've not seen this before and I would be very interested, I know that this would probably be a very difficult analysis to carry out nonetheless but it'd be interesting what the staff at D.F. could think of and work out. Also the PS4 pad works natively on DInput, could you test the latency of the controller inputs on it? Also could you try alternative 3rd party XInput drivers for the DS4 controller? For instance SCP based XInput wrapper and DS4Windows are 2 very popular alternatives.

[@Nick930]

Xbox Elite controller ftw!

[@minhaankhan5072]

Well hello there 👌

[@abhay6937]

Noicke 6930

[@GermanLehmann98]

Thanks a lot DigitalFoundry, was just looking to buy a gamepad for my new pc

[@GermanLehmann98]

+HMHD Ikr haha, that's why they are so famous in the pc community, they know what we want

[@TheShangryLlamas]

Wii U Pro controller is actually probably the best, especially for how much it costs. It feels really, really nice, it's the nicest feeling controller I've ever held. You can also just use Bluetooth with it.

[@Diviance]

+TheShangryLlamas I use a Wii U Pro controller as my main PC gaming pad (I don't even have my Wii U anymore). I actually use a USB dongle that it connects to and lets it switch between being an xinput controller or a dinput one. Never had a better PC controller.

[@aldinvejzovic3782]

nah had most controllers and X1 elite controller is stil hands down the best in grip and comfort. Pricey though. Also the switch pro controller is amazing as well but lacks audio jack so poo

[@beyshadow]

I absolutely love the Wii U pro controller stick placement. It's a shame the triggers are digital though.

[@jamcatplexer5825]

Uhh PC not Wii U

[@godz2928]

Aldin Vejzovic i don't know how you connect a switch pro controller on pc

[@muizzsiddique]

For me, PlayStation 4 controller and Steam's native controller support. A few problems though: - Every program you intend on using Xinput with have to be booted from Steam. - If Steam can't provide its overlay over the application you are stuck relying on the Steam controller desktop configuration, meaning you need to have an Action Set with Xinput controls (which isn't very easy to do, or explain). - If a game can only have exclusive control from one input device you cannot mix and match KB/M and Xinput controls, which mixing and matching is pretty awesome.

[@zhnigo]

No mention on how abysmal the xbox 360 dpad is?

[@gabrieleriva651]

It was made way better after 2010 and the S revision.

[@theflashfan3234]

@@gabrieleriva651 Actually I have that revision and it still sucks

[@LinoshTheHaloGamer]

D-Pad is the main complaint of the 360 controller, which was fixed in the one controller, but then...marketing

[@morpheas768]

Yup, its pretty horrid, but unless you play fighting games, it shouldnt be an issue. Still, even for menu browsing, it can be annoying.

[@rolan5948]

If you play fighting games on a controller your already doing it wrong lol

[@UCLAKoolman]

I use a wireless 360 controller on my gaming PC, two dualshock 3 controllers paired to my HTPC, and a dualshock 4 paired to my MacBook for gaming in other rooms of my home. Pretty happy with all of these controllers tbh

[@davidpro7644]

Logitech??

[@chaosgamer1692]

+David Pro mx one best mouse out their

[@soss4512]

I have two of those

[@Dave30867]

I think this video title is bullshit and he would not have a clue what a real PC controller is what a Dick lol And yes Logitech are great i have 2 different models myself .

[@TQz_]

I just bought their wireless gamepad and it's so shit. I wish I watched this video before buying it. :/

[@Dave30867]

***** Tyr downloading the driver from the webite it helps sometimes

[@Moonview90]

I have the Xbox One S controller and I'm pretty satisfied, works perfectly with most of the games I´ve tried. I use it with cable, no problems so far. The disappointing thing, is that you have to buy batteries to use it wireless. Not a problem if you play on your computer, but if, in case you want to use it with your phone, that might be inconvenient. But nothing really that turn into a deal breaker, so I recommend it. :D

[@MilkBreakMinecraft]

I'm using the Dualshock 4 on my PC and it's a lovely controller! :D

[@pombamz1]

+BowGunner 40ms lag? xD

[@MilkBreakMinecraft]

Arnold Schwarzeniqqa I've not noticed such lag. I use a different program so that might be it.

[@slapthekillswitch]

+BowGunner because you dont notice it unless your comparing it in a slow motion video

[@pombamz1]

darrell markie if i can notice a 5ms lag im pretty sure you can notice 40ms preetty easily xD, i just bought a 1ms monitor and the difference is significant

[@MilkBreakMinecraft]

Arnold Schwarzeniqqa Indeed, I can definitely notice 40ms input lag. My controller doesn't have it.

[@FPRobber]

I'm still using my old SIXAXIS controller that came with my PS3 back then when it didn't even have a rumble feature. It still works really well, the battery life is good and with a little open source 3rd party tool (ScpToolkit) it works extremely well via bluetooth and mini USB. Literally the only problem I can think of is that because ScpToolkit installs it as an Xinput controller I get Xbox button prompts. It took me a while to remember where the A, B, X and Y buttons are on the X360 controller, but now with some experience it feels just as natural.

[@slippysloth4325]

No Shield controller? It works with Windows 10 now!

[@phant0mdummy]

That uplay joke was great. More humor pls, sometimes this channels videos are a bit too dry and informative.

[@SteelmanArgument]

+Color Bars Agreed, but don't go full LinusTechTips either. You never go full LinusTechTips.

[@videogage]

Though it takes some getting used to, the Steam Controller is the best controller in my opinion. It's very customizable, comfortable, and a little cheaper than the PS4/XBOne controllers.

[@seancostello8631]

THANK YOU!!!

[@popocatepetl4166]

In ma country(Romania) the Xbox One S is 215 lei (54 dollars), and the Steam controller is 312 lei (81 dollars)

[@nicdymes4900]

I would agree if they put the buttons where the track pad or whatever is and moved that down where the buttons are cuz I play claw I wouldn’t be able to play claw on that controller

[@lapinus]

The man speaks the truth

[@CandarianGaming]

Steam controller for first person shooters/racing games (gyro on at all times), Dualshock 4 for 3rd person shooters (gyro activated by left trigger), WiiU pro for fighters, platformers, beat em ups and adventure games.

[@cookiesrawesomee]

Gamecube controller master race bois 8)

[@RandomAnimeGamer]

SmashBox is better :P

[@morpheas768]

Gamecube's controller is still the best highest quality gamepad that I've ever held in my hands.

[@rodrigodesousapt]

Actually I’ve had some problems connecting de GameCube controller to pc

[@RAZKEN.]

I bought my X360 wireless-controller kit in 2007 aaaand... it have worked effing brilliant for 9 years! I've never got a single problem with it. That's what I call quality!

[@graalcloud]

Wii U Pro controller is the best one I have found. I like it a lot better than the 360 controller, it has a good D-Pad and buttons and is more comfortable.

[@harrisonfong]

+John Redcorn hopefully nintendo makes a gamepad in the future with analog triggers. they're indispensable for driving and flying.

[@FlowUrbanFlow]

John Redcorn Gamecube did it first.

[@groszak1]

But it's not in the future

[@MGsubbie]

IMO the DS4 used through Inputmapper is the best PC controller. For massive upsides that you forgot to mention. -The ability to adjusting sensitivity and recalibrate the triggers, analog sticks, gyroscope, etc. Basically anything with gradual input. -Full on buttonmapping. You can even assign mouse and keyboard controls to it if you so desire. Eg mouse movement on right stick, WASD on left stick, LMB on right trigger etc for FPS. I like it to control VLC when watching a movie from the couch. -The touchpad. Not only can you use it as a mouse in Windows with left click, right click and scrolling, you can also use it for... -Macros! Double tap, click, swipe left, swipe right, swipe up and swipe down can all be used to create button combinations. In the Witcher 3 I put all my menu shortcuts on the touchpad. -Individual profiles for individual games with auto-detect. I'm sure the Xbox controllers also have software for this, but usually games already take up all the individual buttons, while the touchpad is free to do with whatever you want on the DS4. And there is the Xbox Elite controller, but you pay 2.5 as much for it. And I only have 1-1.5ms input delay through Bluetooth. Through USB cable it's ~4ms.

[@mikeus77]

About the DS4 input lag. Did you test it in bluetooth or wired? Or it has input lag no matter the connection?

[@RockerMarcee96]

It has input lag no matter how you do it because of the third party software processing. I have played DS with an older logitech controller that doesn't have xinput support and damn now I go back into it those 3 frame lag that I had (I used x360ce) is really noticable right now that I don't have with the Xbox One S controller. Also if using it wireless it again adds 1-3 frames of input lag which is ridiculous with precision gaming, with the DS4 you can get 6 less of the s compared to a wired xinput controller.

[@odysseyyy5550]

you don't need a third party software for the ds4 anymore. I just plugged the ds4 in and it worked. Also i didn't notice any input lag from bluetooth

[@RockerMarcee96]

Nice does it support xinput now? If not it still needs a third party software. Try playing something like borderlands.

[@TayeAkindedynamo]

High Master Johannes Liechtenauer I can vouch for this as much as I hate the Xbox one controller it has less latency than a ds4 idk why I even tried the ds4 v2 same stuff

[@Bleste011]

Been using my PS4 controller on my PC using DS4 software and so far no problems. You can use the controller wired plus wireless with Bluetooth. During the latency testing between the PS4 and the Xbox 360 did you test the PS4 wired or wireless? You mentioned that the Xbox 360 controller was wired but didn't mention if the PS4 controller was wired or wireless in the video?

[@sebianoti]

"yeah, yeah, I know" lmao

[@user-gh6cc5gk2o]

the pads are nice and all but the thing i loved the most is the fact that you're probably around 50 years old and you still play games which i find very interesting and awesome

[@MaoThe1st]

What hoops??? Since when is adding a non-Steam game to Steam "a hoop". It's as difficult as using Windows explorer.

[@seancostello8631]

I agree but trying to play games from the Windows Store can be trickey

[@Taorakis]

Hey OBJECTION! The XBox One Donlge got cleared for Windows 7 abnd 8 last year December! You will not get the App to configure your elite controller though. But the config you make on XBOne or Windows 10 will stay in the controller if you swtitch and use it on 10.

[@Cimlite]

Steam Controller has become my default controller. It's weird and takes a good long while to get used to but also more accurate and compatible when you do. It does work with Origin & Uplay games as well... just have to add them to Steam as non-Steam shortcuts first.

[@GaijinMecha]

Cim he also forgot to mention the grip triggers, which I couldn't live without.

[@bartiz12]

I left myself one PS3 Sixaxis controller after selling my PS3. It used to disconnect itself if played with cable. However I bought a cheap bluetooth adapter and I have very light good quality controller which is wireless. I could not ask for more! I do not need vibrations and new AAA games have built in Xbox controller support with button icons, Witcher 3 even has console map built in which is operated completely different from PC. I can see online a PS3 Dualshock controller for 15$ / euro, which I find very cheap. I guess because PS4 came to play, the PS3 controllers got cheaper also. With bluetooth adapter I think it is a very good budget option!

[@DJHeroMasta]

With steam, the PS4 controller is plug & play. No setup needed.

[@XPLOSIVization]

ive been through quite a few controllers and recently brought the steam controller, theres always one that wins for me and that is still the Xbox 360 wired gamepad, although i do agree that elite controller will be very very tempting if theres ever a short time special 50% discount

[@sleepnaught]

Love the steam controller. People who buy it should be aware it has a pretty high learning curve for a gamepad. Dont expect to pick it up and play it straight away like an xbox controller. It takes configuration and time for your fingers to adjust to a completely new type of gamepad with the trackpads. For the first week or two, I was regretting my purchase and was ready to go back to the 360 pad. But eventually I found the trackpad settings I love for most games, Trackball On, Friction Medium, haptic feedback low/medium depending on the game. Gyro for FPS games is also a godsend. Its actually possible to play Battlefield 4 and other shooters and maintain a competitive score, after some time getting use to the controller of course. And what a joy it is to play games that have to controller support from the comfort of your couch. Playing some Pillars of Eternity while enjoying a hot cup of joe in the morning on my sofa is pretty great. Combined with Big Picture Mode on Steam, you get all the conveniences of consoles with the power and performance of a PC. Its fantastic! With a press of a button, an on screen keyboard can come up and you can type with the trackpads like you would texting on a phone, making browsing the web or using netflix app a breeze. Anyway, just wanted to give a few of my thoughts on that controller. I highly recommend it to any PC gamer that doesnt mind fiddling with a few settings.

[@n1kulas]

This is the best PC controller video I watched! Great work. However, as I have watched several videos regarding PC controller, you never mentioned if the rumble/vibrate function works with these controllers. Do they? and how is it?

[@Pan_Z]

6:28 Holy crap, he thought exactly what we were

[@SageManeja]

I recommend Logitech F310 or similar, but beware because the cable quality in logitech gamepads is bad and the plastic of the cord will break after a while if you like to put the cord around the gamepad when you dont use it.

[@DeDovla]

I think you've missed the Logitech F710, a lot of people recommend it these days.

[@GreatestDaneHD]

I actually use the Wii Classic Controller Pro for a lot of more old-school PC games that benefit from a damn good dedicated D-Pad. I'd recommend it to anyone into old-school platformers or RPGs (like Undertale).

[@lukessummerguitar]

What about the Logitech F310? it's a brilliant PC Controller

[@irfanomi22]

Analog Thumb-stick Precision is not even close to Xbox 360 Controller. F310 has serious DeadZone.

[@tomasjanak4113]

Nope it isn't... horrible ergonomics, no feedback...

[@rubenthehuman]

The d-pad is great but the deadzone on the analog sticks and the durability in general are not

[@phoenixsantos9190]

I have the same thing and for the triggers are just horrible.

[@ahmetufukyuksek365]

no f310 but maybe f710

[@hydra3717]

that was amazing video! i was sure that you were gonna say ' ofcourse its up to you all the time like the almost other videos' but No! you show up there and tell your true thoughts im very happy to find this channel! great work keep it up!

[@DenzNoble]

Drivers for the Xbox One controllers for Windows 7 and 8 are officially available from MS moths ago..

[@droid7627]

Older XB1 controllers require the adapter. I bought a black xb1 controller to use because my arm was in a sling - came with a rechargeable battery. I eventually ended up breaking the wireless receiver and my black xb1 controller started to wear down, so I got a white controller that uses Bluetooth. The only issue I have with it is that for some reason it doesn't charge the battery, so I just use the black controller wired when I need to charge it

[@dethdonald6085]

Wii U pro controller is actually really nice and has an insane battery life.

[@warchild027]

I use a Logitech f710. I would like to give the new Xbox Elite controller a try, however, I never got used to xbox button and joystick placement. I hate the way the buttons are opposite the Left analog stick and not the dpad. and the Right analog stick is opposite the dpad. My favorite controller so far is wii U Pro controller. everything is positioned in the right place for my personal taste. I would love to see a pc controller with that button-dpad-analog stick-trigger layout.

[@Diego92Souza]

the *DS4* is actually pretty good.... Sony is sleeping on the point, they need to "officially support" this controller ASAP, especially, because of Multiplatform games, are coming with the default *XBOX* controller mapping.... Sony... do something... P.S. when's the wired X1 controller coming btw ???

[@ITSMINECRAFTTIME32]

I don't think they are making them but They have a receiver for it that works with the wireless controller.

[@Diego92Souza]

TheDerpyCreeperDude but that's the thing... is not "official" its just ghetto solutions, for something really simple... a USB driver, and then, the devs, will start making both mappings, on games.... look at SFV for example, it's a PC/PS4 exclusive game, but when you boot the game, everything has the Xbox controller mapping.... wth... lel

[@ITSMINECRAFTTIME32]

+Diego Costa idk lol and I was talking about the Xbox One controller reciver they had a bundle for black Fridays which had an Xbox one with a wireless controller plus a wired one but the wired one looked cheap and retarded.

[@EoRdE6]

no need for a wires X1 controller, all of them are already wired technically. just find a micro USB and plug it in

[@Diego92Souza]

TheDerpyCreeperDude ohhh... i'm an idiot... lel...

[@DaveSimonH]

I'm happy enough with my wired 360 pad, most games basically have plug+play functionality and the ones that don't I can usually create an Xpadder profile for. It's a preference thing, but I have always preferred the analogue stick placement on the 360 pad. Guess it started with the Dreamcast, then Gamecube, Xbox & 360. Years of playing in that stick configuration, so while I can play with dual shock controllers, I certainly feel clumsier with it. "But M+Kb is objectively better!", for some stuff of course, but a lot of titles suit having analogue movement. Personally my PC is hooked up to my bedroom TV so playing via controller is more comfortable, and helps with avoiding wrist pain/RSI I've experienced in the past with mouse.

[@RockuMan]

I'll never understand why everyone considers AA batteries a minus.

[@morpheas768]

Its only a minus if you dont want to charge batteries separately, which is what is required in most cases. Some devices allow charging of their AA batteries without removal, but its very rare.

[@ThatPixelGuy]

Because you shouldn't expect to have to buy batteries for a controller or have to fork out more money for a rechargeable battery pack. It should come with a rechargeable pack and have to option of buying an extra one separately. Just another Microsoft money grabbing scam.

[@anarcxh8502]

for the 360 it can fuck your lil battery box up had to replace 5 myself

[@chikaragaming7517]

Thanks for the video Richard! If you wish we will mention you on our channel and add DF to our recommendations. This is one of the most helpful channels in terms of gaming and specs etc and I wish it every success! -Yojinbo P.S death threats??! That's absolutely crazy mate! You are doing great work and I only recently came across this channel but you've done alot and put so much work in, please don't let these bloody idiots get away with it, you seem like a very nice guy. Once again all the best sir

[@subzerolives]

Thank you digital foundry, if possible next topic Nvidia DSR versus in game scaling.

[@mouykhshabon]

+Peter Gratineau Super Sampling (In-game or SSAA) is always better than Gaussian (Nvidia DSR) or Lanczos (AMD VSR) .

[@Zero86Sk]

The Logitech F310, F510 and F710 are fantastic options, they are solid and you can switch from Direct Input to X Input via a switch on the back of the controler. Its fantastic. Served me for many years. Now im using a Xbox One wireless controler with a Play and Charge battery.

[@93Bananaphone93]

Buy xbox 360 controller and u will be fine :D

[@BigManTate7364]

This is true but buying an official one at this point is not easy. I've gone through 3 knock-offs that were supposed to be official Microsoft ones because my real one broke. Can't trust Amazon anymore.

[@JohnDuthie]

The humor was a nice change of pace from the usual Digital Foundry dialog

[@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear]

Why you no test the input lag for all of them?

[@agentgreenland]

Henry Chaisritha ikr? That's why I like channels such as Gamer's Nexus. Proper reviews with proper testing

[@Rohaq]

Wait a sec. Richard Leadbetter? As in CVG? Mean Machines? Sega Saturn Magazine? Dude, I friggin' grew up reading your stuff! Glad to see you're still involved in games journalism!

[@icerink239]

"having to replace the battery..." Buy rechargeable ones instead

[@frapippo420]

I've been using the xbox one controller with its official micro usb cable for a year and a half. I've never had a single problem/malfunction/damage on the controller. It works quite perfect, what kind of problem did you had with that?

[@RockerMarcee96]

In fact this is the first time I hear this as a complaint. I have heard that the DS4 has consistent problems with the build quality however, like the rubber on the analogue sticks coming off, it's not unusable but cmon.

[@DaMedicDemonow]

Lawl. Steam Controller is really great, just hard to switch to I'd say, so yeah. Xbox controllers ftw. If only they weren't so expensive

[@thelastcopier]

Yep, OG wired 360 controller ftw. Been using mine for about 10 years.

[@Primeyy]

2:50 Richard that incorrect. You can use the adapter with Windows 10, Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-on-windows/accessories/xbox-wireless-adapter-for-windows-compatibility

[@fudge761]

+Lloyd Franklin but the video's been published today and so it's misleading

[@Primeyy]

***** How do you know it was made months ago?

[@Primeyy]

+Lloyd Franklin Also the video has footage of street fighter 5. That came out last week.

[@Mario-ol1mo]

+Brian R Ha, you caught that idiot red handed. Lol

[@Primeyy]

***** They said 5 in the video and article and the UI is exactly like 5. You would know that if you were a subscriber to their website. 

[@marioysikax]

Also it's good to mention that if you do happen to own Wii U and had to buy Pro Controller (either for multiplayer or as it's better with some games which doesn't use gamepads extras like Bayonetta), then buying Mayflash adapter might be good investment. As letters differ a bit, it might be bit confusing, but dongle does allow to change modes between same placing and same lettering schemes. It also allows DirectInput so it works with PS3, not entirely sure does the XInput mode work on 360.

[@BanjoKazooie0]

The Wii U Pro Controller is the best controller I've used on the PC

[@seancostello8631]

How hard is it to hook up though?

[@arcticridge]

very, the deadzones on the analogue sticks are completely fucked for pc

[@RappinPicard]

I kinda like the Wii U Pro controller with a PC adapter that mayflash makes. The controller itself is comfortable, and the adapter makes it read to the PC as an Xinput controller. The only downside is maybe that the face buttons are backwards compared to the 360 controller

[@Gehab]

Please let us know that you read the comments by putting "Wichard" in the little thing you had at 0:02. *PLEASE*

[@TaimatCR]

that would be hilarious 😂

[@dragonkid365]

I used to use a DS3 and even a DS4, but now I use a Wii U Pro controller. It's honestly the best controller I've ever used. It's only drawback is that it's triggers are digital and not analog. With the Mayflash adapter it can have xinput so you can use it with any game on PC that has controller support.

[@Dianaranda123]

I got an Xbox360 Controller, but gods i hate the D-Pad on it.

[@Demonkingx5]

2:46 wrong Richard it works on win 7,8.1 now " You can set up your Xbox Wireless Adapter for Windows on any Windows 10, 8.1, or 7 tablet, laptop, or desktop computer. There are two steps to setting up the adapter-connecting the adapter to your device and binding your controller."

[@Siarkopool]

Logitech pads are better than all that high price shit from $ony and M$. Rumblepad forever !

[@Longxinus]

Richard, just so you know, the Xbox One controller can now be used wirelessly on Windows 7 and 8.1 as well. You just need to download the drivers.

[@Longxinus]

+Lloyd Franklin Oh, sorry. Didn't know. It seemed new since the video got uploaded again today.