Several Incredibly Smart TVs!

[@SynthesizersAreLife]

when gravis yanked the tv tuner out of the screen it shocked me briefly, like a kill in a horror movie you didn't expect

[@panpaletkalg2550]

matrix death

[@Aaronjdoucet]

Babe wake up new Liquid Crystal Display Dude just dropped

[@piuthemagicman]

Well good morning! -not your babe

[@faustianDev]

LIQUIIIIIIIID

[@112-DavidL]

I can hear her eyes rolling from here 🤣

[@nitehawk86]

Liquid TV, back when MTV was good

[@tullyclark2733]

Surely it’s Liquid Crystal Dude

[@Steets]

In the age of smart TVs that requires user agreements and have ads injected into the UI, using an NEC digital signage display for my home TV -- no garbage, no frills, virtually indestructible panel -- has been bliss. At my old workplace, there was a set of NEC MultiSync panels in the lobby, displaying the same static map and welcome message, 24/7/365, for as long as anybody could remember. I checked their uptimes one day and found they were both identical: 32,767 hours. They hit the integer limit years ago and just stopped counting. Still looked and functioned like new.

[@mastafull]

That's one reason I use my PC as a media center and a wireless mouse as my remote control.

[@raulburriel]

We just had a meeting with LG and #1 and #2 on our list of features was “No special software or OS” and “No EULA”.

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Why my 4k uhd roku hisense has no internet connection

[@rc6ty]

digital sinage displays have got to be the best discovery i've made when looking for "modern dumb TVs", got myself a 70" version of the NEC for an equivelant of 300USD and using the PIP mode to watch some shows while playing on my xbox has been really fun

[@tormaid42]

Or you could just not connect it to the internet? Why would you go out of your way to get a signage display with atrocious image quality?

[@BalooUriza]

I really needed a new CRD video right now.

[@xymaryai8283]

sorry, its all Liquid Crystal Dude atm, but i don't mind XD

[@Wondershock]

Same, honestly.

[@cysioland]

Did not expect to find you here

[@xmlthegreat]

That's why he told us patrons, "I'm just releasing this, there's no early access for this one, some people need comfort today."

[@NotRealNamesAgain]

DUDE. OK so hear me out, I promise this is going somewhere. Years ago one of our clients spent a HUGE amount of money on a ~80 inch smartboard TV for their conference room that used an OPS Module. When we ordered it and the module, they sent the wrong module and when we called them they shipped the correct one. They told us to keep it. I'll never understand why. I tried to sell it on eBay for quite some time but got no takers. I'm pretty sure it's this same connector/standard but have to go look tomorrow. I think we still have it, and my boss would almost certainly let me send it to you. OKOKOK here's the thing about it. This particular module is not a "little guy" in the way you think. This particular module uses AN INTEL COMPUTE CARD, and HAS ONE IN THE BOX with it. For once I'm excited to check the shelves at work. Will report back to these comments if I'm right about it being a normal OPS module.

[@CathodeRayDude]

woah. dang! if you're interested in parting with it, and it turns out to be OPS (or SDM, even) feel free to shoot me an email! cathoderaydude at gmail.

[@der.Schtefan]

You might want to send him a mail or so, in case he does not see this comment.

[@henryokeeffe5835]

You just ripped that poor TV's brains out! It was using those!

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Braaaainz!

[@Empterdose]

What an incredibly violent act. I was shocked!

[@RubyRoks]

58:16 Annecdotal evidence is annecdotal, but my school district when i was a kid spent a lot of money on SMART's line of digital whiteboards and the teachers who had them loved them. It made going from whiteboard mode to having the NBA playoffs or March Madness pulled up super easy since you didn't have to fight with other Gonzaga obsessed teachers over TV carts or worry about kids breaking projector screens. I remember one of my teachers specifically used it to digitally mark a PDF version of our workbooks so we could all work along with her.

[@longcat45]

i can also second this, my teachers used them alot with their pcs in highschool, they would just pull up shit that would get projected onto the board and then they would draw all over the board, scroll through slides, do presentations and demonstrations, pretty much anything that could be done on a secondary monitor that you would want to annotate over. i did have some teachers, usually elderly ones, not use them although they were installed in the class anyways

[@Fay7666]

Teachers that knew how to use them were amazing, teachers who didn't were reality.

[@oliverer3]

I had some classes with an early Smartboard and it made some lessons much more engaging. My math teacher for example used a lot of silly digital stickers for various things when making or explaining problems for us. Good times.

[@raulburriel]

Cathode Ray Dude returns to the world of digital signage! We install these NECs all the time!

[@magicarmyman]

my high school started installing the newest version of those things during my senior year. they had an account system for like multiple teachers and everything. and I was the person who got told by the teachers to fix the things when the inputs eventually came unplugged. I have also plugged multiple ancient dvd drives into them because I was the techy kid. they used basically none of the inbuilt features outside of the screencast and basically used them as overhead projector replacements. gotta love how state money went to buying them instead of fixing the mold problem in my rundown rural high school from the 70's.

[@anthonyh2884]

Yeah that sucks but budgets are allocated by category so the tech budget was probably eight times more than the mold remediation budget! 👍🏽😬

[@DeletedContent]

So, your School couldn't have bought Polyboard or Promethean or Smart or LG Pentouch or the Microsoft Whiteboard or Google Jam Board or the Samsung (whatever they call them now) or Vibe board or Viewsonic or Benq boards.

[@DeletedContent]

My School as did the same thing with the Promethean Activ Titaniums. At least they bought the lower storage ones that were 64 GBs and not expansion cards running ChromeOS or Windows 10/11 IOT they were all 65 inch versions from my memory. They never used all the features, just Teams installed from the Google Play Store. And my School had HP USFFs tons of them they never used them and I connected them for them. So, glad USB Plug and Play exists I was not going to fight with User Account Control. They also had Surfaces Brand new Never Used and a whole lot more. But, I gotta admit you could easily get into the "secret service settings" The display's mainboard UI and enable 3D since they also have 3D Glasses from the Smart Projectors (Our Old ones did Passive 3D). I mean the panel wasn't true 3D but Software will do it like people did when those 3D TVs were expensive.

[@T0NYFERRELL1]

A modern TV without built in Chromecasts, tracking and invasive advertising is a dream come true. Which was also a reality less than 5 years ago.

[@LetrixAR]

Just don't connect it to the internet and problem solved

[@Crusader1089]

Not really 5 years ago. Back in 2012 my friend at uni had a TV they had bought for uni which had smart apps built in.

[@JourneymanGeek]

IPTV is practically cable TV over ethernet/IP . Our cable provider decided to sunset their cable network, and swapped out the setop boxen for IP set top boxen that run over a seperate vlan on their network.

[@JasperJanssen]

It’s not terribly standardized, though.

[@person749]

This man really just listed every reason why you'd need an always on commercial display.

[@FranklyPeetoons]

It's a pretty safe bet that no other online video source is covering this exact data in the same way. It's valuable tech info that risks being lost forever. I hope someone out there is archiving these.

[@feliciomm]

As a Brazilian, I can confirm, Oval Brazilian Emerald Rhodium Over Silver Ring is what all of us carry on our fingers

[@kevlar557]

I also have 2 NEC panels that I use at home regularly - C751Q that I saved from the dumpster. Professional AV engineer here. Loving watching a different perspective on something as "common" (to me) as a commercial display.

[@MrChaosBones]

Love your newfound energy, and congrats on finally appearing normal-size in the shot. :D Really happy for you, it reminds me of the glee and free-form early content. Lots of love, CRD; Cheers to many more vids!

[@oliverer3]

Ram quest is so real. Everytime I play around with something like this it just keeps sending me on sidequests.

[@Jazzy-kz6wd]

having a tv with a builtin hd-sdi is honestly so useful in broadcast settings, when i worked in a news station we ran all the tvs (20+) in the studio with sdi cables and being able to just plug sdi in without worrying about converter boxes would have been such a clean solution.

[@ms2649]

Love how it gradually turned from a review of a NEC momitor into a little guys/OPS episode into messing with my ridiculously rage touchscreen using a OPS😄 Love all of this ❤

[@CathodeRayDude]

haha, i thought about cutting it down somehow but I figured everything made logical sense this way. can't talk about the tv without mentioning the slot, can't just handwave the slot, can't only tell half the story of the slot... so let's just do the whole thing!

[@volvo09]

That is the biggest touchscreen I've ever seen!

[@Jacobhopkins117]

Your explanation of solutions to problems that no one else thinks about is more satisfying than I could have imagined. I wish more consumer technology was designed with a finite state machine philosophy.

[@Vinpupx1]

Thanks for the video. Glad to see your enthusiasm. Gonna need it.

[@tylerwatt12]

The dedicated "on" and "off" buttons on the remote also lets you easily automate turning the TV on and off with a 3rd party IR blaster. The IR blaster wouldn't have to guess if the TV is already on when typically a power toggle button was pressed.

[@spambot7110]

24:14 there's a rly fun word for this: *idempotency*, which describes commands that have the same effect whether they're received once or multiple times. i learned the word from software development (you can imagine how useful it is to have this idea codified into a little term, when designing protocols to reliably transfer state over an unreliable network) but it's such a useful term for zeroing in on the specific cause of a lot of day to day annoyances. if it hasn't already, i feel like that's a word that should escape its original computer science context and be taught in fields like industrial design, mechanical engineering, etc. Then again, it's a word i wish more software developers knew and thought about, so i might be getting ahead of myself

[@CathodeRayDude]

oh hell yeah THAT'S what that means! i never knew

[@Jazzy-kz6wd]

i get ptsd flashbacks seeing jewelry tv

[@spankypants2793]

the south park episode about the tv jewelry industry is one of the best they ever did

[@CuriouserArchive]

I feel like all Smart TVs should have this. The thing I don't like about Smart TVs is that eventually the software becomes unsupported and unusable, and then you have to buy an external box and just pretend that the smart features don't exist. Would be so nice if you could just swap a module.

[@JessicaFEREM]

One thing that irks me about modern TVs is that they don't pass DDC/CI into my computer, meaning I can't change the brightness or contrast or turn them off from my computer. I have VGA monitors from the late 2k's that just work like this, and samsung has made displays that can ONLY be controlled via DDC/CI. I use a program called Twinkle tray on windows to control all my displays' brightnesses all at once, and I'm curious if it would support something like that. I could only assume that it does but can't be too certain.

[@lachlanlau]

+1 for twinkle tray user!

[@eveypea]

Dude, this new format is awesome! Also, that Patreon segue was smooth as hell... Your showmanship has really improved with the extra space

[@Fay7666]

The one thing that was missing was probably having something else on screen, like the downtime screen used in the streams in the middle so the scrolling patrons on the TV (which was _brilliant)_ don't look so lonely.

[@aaronjamt]

About the Promethean casting software: I've actually had the opportunity to mess with one in a school setting, and (at least for the one I used, which seems to be a newer model than yours) it just used regular old Miracast. Stock Windows through the Cast menu connected to it perfectly fine, as well as my Android phone. The one I used also had the ability to have multiple (up to 30, maybe 40) devices casting to it... *at once*. I was told that it was able to allow all the students' tablets (unfortunately we're now apparently giving young children iPads in their classrooms) to cast to the screen at once. You could click one of the devices being casted to focus that one full-screen, then click anywhere to go back to split-screen view. The teachers did also have software on their computers that directly connected to it, so they may also have a proprietary protocol, but I know for a fact regular Miracast does work with it. I think that software was actually just a Chrome extension, come to think of it... I'll have to ask around. The metal bar is exactly what you think, to store the pens it comes with. Fun fact: the board can actually tell whether you're using the tip or back of the (official Promethean) pens somehow... as well as detecting when you're using the eraser instead of a pen (it came with an eraser that sticks to the side of the frame with magnets to hold it when you aren't using it)

[@gammaboost]

NTSC 4.43 is for PAL VCRs playing NTSC tapes, while still using the PAL colour oscillator already in the VCR. PAL60 is for using 60hz video signals on PAL TVs that can accept a 60hz refresh rate but not NTSC colour, mainly useful for older video game consoles. PAL60 should also not be confused with PAL-M, which uses (almost) the NTSC oscillator frequency, and was used in Brazil.

[@WillaGem]

this is exactly the type of video i need to distract myself right now. thank you cathode ray dude

[@DaussPlays]

lmao goof

[@ponyboycurtis007]

@@DaussPlays are you a woman hating racist homophobe by any chance?

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Same. 🤦‍♂️

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@DaussPlays Edgelord

[@Anaerin]

IPTV isn't just a Europe thing, Rogers' TV in Canada, AT&T's U-Verse and Google Fiber's TV offering is also an IPTV system (the former two based on Microsoft's "MediaRoom" IPTV platform, but all three using Multicast UDP streams to deliver video, audio and the interface). But in Europe they have regulations defining the standard and allowing people to bring their own receivers. In NA, they use proprietary encryption systems to lock you into using their set-top boxes (or if you can get a supported option, the "CableCard" standard) to control what you can receive.

[@lassikinnunen]

Some thai providers use some iptv over fiber. You get a tv box with the fiber internet, tv box being a customized android box.

[@nyc90]

4:38 I work in a television studio environment and we have studio feeds in every room. I'm talking hundreds and hundreds of TVs that are left on 24/7. When we renovated in 2017, we specifically chose a commercial display designed to be on all the time to avoid burn in. We might have color bars on these screens for days at a time when the studio is not in use. Literally all of them had horrible burn in within 3 years.

[@kreuner11]

Welp you might need even more expensive studio grade displays

[@MIsterB716]

Chekov’s Slot. Classic Cathode Ray. Here goes the rest of my night.

[@Martipar]

I went to school in an era of transition between blackboards and whiteboards and later returned during the SMART board era. Back in the day teachers would write on the board and when it was full they'd give us time to make notes then wipe the board and carry on. With SMART boards the teacher would just save the screen then move on and share each board with the class at the end of the lesson negating the need to take so many notes.

[@jameshodgetts7541]

I was at uni during the transition. Some of the old school lecturers still insisted on writing on the board and talking at you and you just had to write down as much as possible. If you didnt, you literally didnt have the material that would be on the exam. The younger ones had powerpoints and used to upload them to the student portal at the end of the day and us students just downloded them. Ironically, those with powerpoint slides ended up with theatres full of half asleep people - they didnt need to listen, they just downloaded the slides later anyway - and you can bet most of them went unread, or at least undigested/unexplained for most. When some of the powerpoint crew noticed the grades for their classes were plummeting, they started leaving "traps" - deleting paragraphs, missing points etc in the slides they uploaded. I did a bio degree, and one of our lecturers had slides, but the slides were literally useless - about four pictures of cows, he'd do all the talking and there was almost zero content on the slides themselves - you HAD to take notes - but you didnt becuase slides....you only fucked up one semester as you learned the notes werent all hand fed any more. Im still not convinced death by powerpoint is a good way of teaching....

[@kraklakvakve]

28:21 Having a screen WITHOUT the tuner allows you to avoid paying TV "tax" in some countries.

Came here to say this. Many countries fund(ed) their public broadcast system via television (and before that radio) fee that was often "per tuner". Thus entities who needed only the display didn't want tuners included.

[@Dale-TND]

I had a good chuckle at your 4gb sodimm struggles. They almost never came in 8gb sticks unless it was a premium device.

[@CathodeRayDude]

oh yeah but i knew i had some, and i could have SWORN i'd put them in all my laptops!

[@Fay7666]

Time to watch this at 5X speed so that the TVs before they bump the prices up on eBay.

[@tonysofla]

Brazil uses ntsc60 but with pal color crystal, Argentina uses pal50 with ntsc color crystsl

[@nrdesign1991]

23:30 IIRC The game "Dragon's Lair" actually used this feature, basically hijacking the remote capability of its Laserdisc player to skip to specific chapters and frames on the disc

50:50 It's even more funny, SHA1 hash flowed by '-dirty' was a string generated by git, in which case it was compiled with uncommitted changes in the codebase.

[@carlosjuniorfox]

13:00 NTSC 4:43 is NTSC for 50Hz and colorburst at 4,43Mhz. Is a NTSC for European tv standard's. PAL-60 Is the other way around. PAL on 60Hz, or PAL for 60Hz, but with colorburst at 4,43Mhz. SECAM was the French color TV system. There's also PAL-M used Brazil. Mutch like PAL-60, but with colorburst at 3,56Mhz, to viabilizar broadcast PAL tv signal at 60hz on top of "NTSC" transmitters. The weirdest one is PAL-N. Is PAL at 50hz, just like European PAL, but with colorburst at 3,58Mhz to be able to broadcast on "NTSC" transmitters. Was used on Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguai

[@RetroSwim]

Great explanation. Most common use (speculation) is probs VCRs that let you watch NTSC tapes on PAL TVs and vice-versa.

[@Thesecret101-te1lm]

NTSC 4.43 is for playing back NTSC VHS tapes on multi standard VHS recorders intended for the European market. VHS recorders (probably all the other video recorders too) frequency shifts the color sub carrier. By playing back both PAL and NTSC at 4.43MHz the recorder only needs to be able to play back the color signal at 4.43, saving some parts. Those multi system recorders were packed full of circuits back in the days where all signal processing was analogue. PAL 60 is supported by all DVD players sold in Europe. The purpose is to play NTSC DVD:s on a TV that only has a PAL color decoder. Since perhaps mid 1980's or so the vertical sync circuit of all TVs started using ICs that automatically sync to either 50 or 60 Hz and in most cases automatically have the correct vertical size too. Multi color systems though cost actual components, band pass and band stop filters, crystal oscillators and whatnot, and it was also possible to charge a premium for a multi system TV, so most TVs could only decode PAL (and SECAM if they were sold in West Germany, because everyone watched East German TV but no one officially admitted to doing that, it seems). PAL 60 would also be useful for example if you switch to 60Hz/"NTSC" on an Amiga but still have the PAL color encoding / RF modulator things and use a TV or composite monitor as a display. I honestly don't know who had any use for PAL-60 on DVD players. I think it was just included to lessen complaints from consumers who didn't know how to connect things correctly, as all but the cheapest budget TVs had RGB inputs in Europe since the mid 1980's.

[@Thesecret101-te1lm]

@@RetroSwim Yes, I think that the in the last part of the life of VHS some recorders were able to play back NTSC in the PAL world and then transcode the NTSC color signal to PAL, thus generating PAL-60. But the common use cases are those I stated in another comment in this sub thread Side track: i don't think that there were ever TVs sold in Europe that could display NTSC 4.43 but not NTSC 3.58, even thought that would technically had made sense since it would had been super cheap to add to certain TVs (just a few diodes for the switching logic, kind of). I think this never happened due to it being a marketing night mare as it would require explaining too much to ensure consumers wouldn't get angry about it not displaying NTSC 3.58. Another side track: I've never heard about people (rightfully) complaining about their European multi standard VHS recorders not working with North American TVs.

[@Ziraya0]

The value of this new room is solidly proven by (everything up till now and) the pulling the computer out stunt

[@WeXMajors]

This video is my main piece of evidence that there's something extremely cathartic about slotting in a cartridge and pop culture lost something once we moved on from VCR's and Game Carts.

[@PixelatedH2O]

When I saw that POP feature, I immediately recognized it. I've seen something similar in a medical waiting room where the largest image displayed a TV signal, the smallest image showed something like a feed of weather and the time, and the "sidebar" showed information related to the office, like wait times for each doctor, etc. I'm not sure if this exact display could do something like that, but I bet it could.

[@Spoofsc]

CRD is the hero we need when we need him most! Thank you!

[@MJP_985]

IPTV is also how hotels do the in-room TVs nowadays as well

[@nytpu]

My high school had smart boards and yeah, teachers really didn't like them. They only ever used them as standard projectors for slideshows and just viewed them as permanently occupying whiteboard space and universally preferred the traditional pull-down whiteboard screens that could then be raised back up if they needed the whiteboards. Although in my college classes, one of my professors brings in a drawing tablet and uses that on the projector for everything, so he can save the notes and then share them after class so I guess that's the converse if there aren't smart whiteboards lol

[@hbkirb]

A handheld Wacom tablet is worlds better than having to raise your arm up to a smart whiteboard with high latency, honestly. I bet more profs would share a copy of their notes if they were given a tablet rather than a smartboard.

[@domramsey]

There's just something incredibly satisfying about digital whiteboards. I remember in the very early 2000s we had one in our boardroom that worked with a projector and the screen was the size of the whole wall. Drawing on itt seemed like magic to me, although I suspect if I saw it again now it would look very clunky.

[@bennyfactor]

Enjoyable fun information about something obscure on a day when we need just that. You're the dude for this.

[@morzinbo]

Lmao

[@dreamattack5912]

may want to blur the previous user's email address in the google play store in the final upload, but ofc up to you. great vid!!

[@CathodeRayDude]

i considered it for a moment but it looks like it's just a generic company account so w/e, heh. ty!!

[@integerofdoom69]

It's public domain now.

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

You gracing my presence as I needed you in the middle of the night writing a novel, thank you so much.

[@Morphior]

What are you writing about?

[@ihartmacz]

Bless you for posting this so that I can distract myself from today.

[@JonThomas92]

Thank you for the video, the silence has been deafening all day

[@TommyCrosby]

Gotta love the little guy tangent inside a tangent inside a tangent for that Tux Racer cameo.

[@adamkamieniarz9223]

Having built in tv tuner may not cost much in manufacturing cost, but in some countries you have to pay commercial tv loicence for each receiver you have in the building, even when you never use it.

[@random832]

I think that second grid you pulled up at 57:40 is for writing Japanese [and presumably other east asian], that's why it has square cells horizontally, one [well, a 2x2 mini-grid] per character.

[@LordVarkson]

It's just a grid pattern, when I was a kid all of our math books looked like that, that way you could lay out sums and ensure it all lines up for showing your workings.

[@jordanwidmer3561]

Suddenly, it's a Little Guys episode. Was that Elite Force? Impeccable taste.

[@AdriaanZwemer]

Our teachers mainly used these just like those overhead projector screens, just mirroring the computer. History teacher actually used the whiteboard feature to write notes that we had to copy. Classrooms with overhead projectors had ActiveInspire installed on the pc

[@Hafk]

Seeing the description of the video, thank you Gravis. Been looking forward to you making a video about these after you talked about them on little guys and it certainly helped to see this today.

[@rushipatel4877]

I have always bought NEC displays as TV's. I use a 40" outside that has survived several hurricanes and a 98" in my family room that has been nothing but a pleasure. Accessing your TV settings through a web browser is just the way.

[@octoturt]

in elementary school i remember that it was always a struggle for the teachers to get the one SMART board that the entire grade was supposed to share. by high school even the oldest construction had SMART boards mounted on the walls. i definitely don't follow the "these things just sit around collecting dust" story, most of my classes were powerpoints that the teachers would mark up while talking. the one time i had a math teacher that actually used a chalkboard it was a genuine novelty

[@jksensei]

We have these Prometheans (not the exact model slightly newer) in schools in germany. I work as a School Admin and know these very well. The newer ones allows iPads to connect wirelessly, so students can share their work, the teacher can then at any moment freeze the screen and draw over it to correct or further explain things. Really nice actually. Though we shifted on using Smartboards as the UI is much nicer and they are almost 1000 Euros cheaper. Smartboards have a built in OPS module not that easily accessible, but it still can be swapped or bought with an x86_64 module. All of those, even the new ones still have front io for teachers to plug in their own devices via hdmi, the newest even have thunderbolt 3 inputs on the front and back. We are going to swap all ops modules with windows 11 compatible ones this year. I love that we can fit 10 year old devices with modern hardware capable of running Windows 11 at nearly a 5th of the price of buying new ones. For schools with limited funds this is insanely valuable!

[@prestonfreeman1967]

"maybe i broke it", after "i do this all the time, it'll be fine..." classic hubris umbrage....you are so friggin cool. And hilarious. Thanks for all you do. I emailed you like some weird fanboy stan. I'm totally not an internet weirdo...i promise. LOL!

[@coxymla]

PAL60 was a sweet little improvement for console games when it came out in the late 90s/early 00s. You keep the extra resolution and better colour of PAL, but now you get 60FPS instead of 50 (for games that actually went that high, at least...), and no more weird speed/timing differences between the US/JP and PAL editions of games!

[@OneBiOzZ]

Our high school started installing paramedian boards right at the tail end of me being there (2008-2009) and they were neat. Basically gigantic drawing tablets with a projector projecting on to them. They did not have touch support and you had to use a pen but they were surprisingly responsive for the time and teachers could email you the notes.

[@Caenish_]

Idk if any other comments said, but my memory of PAL60 was just a slightly upgraded pal, where you got 576 lines at 60fps instead of 50fps. The resident evil remake on the GameCube was frustrating without it because otherwise it just ran at 5/6ths speed (literally, the characters looked like they were running in slow mo) to accommodate the lower frame rate. I don't remember anything other than gaming consoles of the early 2000s being able to do PAL60, and then HD killed it anyway a few years later. 13:38

[@MrAzztech]

i had a thing for these types of commercial screens, i always wanted one of these with touch screen and a built in pc. I now have 2x 2021 55inch 4k 20point touchscreens from liyama that can house a computer and has android running in the background. That 75inch is a beast!! awesome video! 😉

[@nikomo]

PAL60 ended up being quite common in Europe - it's just PAL but at 60Hz, so if the game you were playing on a game console supported PAL60, you'd get both the resolution of PAL and the refresh rate of NTSC(-ish). I know the Playstation 2 supported it, but it was up to individual games to support it.

[@Pasi123]

I first heard about PAL60 when something on Xbox 360 required that instead of regular PAL 50Hz

[@NemesisTWarlock]

Probably been answered already, but as an Aussie who was gaming as a kid in the late 90's and early '00s, PAL60 was a godsend. PAL only refreshed at 50hz,rather than NTSC's 60. PAL60 was supported by many Dreamcast, PS2, OG Xbox and GameCube games to allow them to run at 60FPS on Aussie TVs. Finally, we could play F-Zero GX at the blistering speed it was meant to be played!

[@impiaaa]

I worked with a commercial display! …but not in a commercial setting. At my summer job in college we built a device that plugs into the serial (RJ45 rather than DE-9 on this brand) and shows all of the settings on its own touchscreen. It also had physical knobs for dialing in settings. Because real professionals deserve better than squishy remote keys and a tiny OSD!

[@tnaxpw]

Just seeing you having so much fun bucking around with the touch screen software made my day.

[@iRedMCYT]

10:24 Lol that’s actually what I’m watching this on - and yea that sounds like something that it would have. Also I have a projection based 1080p display from 2006 that has auto input detection, and pretty much every TV we have has it too. Even the 2005 1080p Westinghouse. It’s actually very useful… when it works. Enables laziness, but it’s also useful (to a point) for debugging. Also hi from Cali 42:33 Hey no shame - My progmon is over 40 inches… because I needed a 4K unit, and at the Best Buy I walked into that day, that’s the smallest they had. 75 inches… holy SHIT?! I will say though that our 8K TV which I think is like 86 inches or something insane is still mounted via an arm. Very very precarious feeling, but it works. What you did… looks considerably more so.

[@TradieTrev]

Radio hams would love these old sets to run a spectrum waterfall. I got myself an old POS terminal and it makes a great SDR.

[@scamdotnet336]

FYI: idk if someone already mentioned this, but I am in a district that is all promethean boards (more modern than yours), and the built in screen sharing feature, at least on the modern ones, does support window's built in screen mirroring feature, though not super duper well. For example, if you set the screen mode to extend, the display will only render the pc's extended screen in 4:3 for some strange reason. The neat part about the promethean side though is the ability to have a waiting room where like a class can have all the people presenting connect before hand, and you can live swap who's input is being displayed.The neat thing about the modern promethean OPS modules (and I feel like yours does it too from a side channel video you did a while ago? I could be wrong) is that they completely replace the built in OSD, and also have multiple overlay features on the HDMI inputs, such as a large timer, and an on screen annotation tool, that doesn't require the pc to ever receive the touch input. Our district probably found out when setting these things up initially that the official promethean screen share software is so annoying to use, that they specifically bought these devices that just get mounted onto the back of the board called ScreenBeams, which would handle the usb touch input coming from the USB B cable on the back of the display, and ofc the sending of the connected computer's image to the board. The really strange thing is all of the ones in my district (i've checked at multiple schools) actually come with a FRICKING DOS EMULATOR??? called FreeDosBox... I put the oregan trail on one of them using that, and also windows 3.1 which is really really silly to me lol. Also have poked around the OS a lot, it is way more locked down than the one you have, doesn't have the google play store and you can't load apks. If anyone does want to ask me anything more about how our school district is setup with these/how teachers actually use them, feel free to ask.... I ramble a lot as you can tell lol.

[@Montgomerygolfgator]

I think we all needed this distraction today thank you

[@mediocreman2]

Why? Great day and nice video!

[@rudge3speed]

I installed so many of these in different sizes and layouts. PCs of the time couldn't support more than 2 HD screens, so the tiling feature was great for bigger arrays. They had a ton of hours on them by the time they got decommissioned, so buying a used one is a gamble!

[@Maigols]

LOVED this episode, and it makes me so happy to see how the new setup in the warehouse gives you so much freedom! :D

[@app0the]

Commercial TVs are THE TVs. My daily driver is a 65in Panasonic plasma commercial display from 2006 and it's an absolute champ, any signal adjustment setting you can imagine for any twisted kind of source you plug into it. The speakers on that, on the contrary, are way superb to any TV I've heard in the past two decades too, but they are basically two column speakers that clamp to the sides of the TV :P Oh, and mine didn't come with a tuner module, so I don't have to pay the NHK tax too!

[@BronsonTheCat]

Seeing all this Jewellery makes me think of the South Park episode “Cash for Gold”. “This is 200 carat Brazilian emerald and plasticine ring. I'm gonna start bidding for this ring at, um, let's see, eight billion dollars. Eight billion dollars, opening bid. We've gotta sell this ring today. Tell you what, I'm gonna take it down a little. We're gonna drop that price down to... $75.95.” - Cartman.

[@robertcasey2490]

At 12:16 about different color systems, back in 1996 I worked for Samsung and helped design a video decoder chip that could do the usual NTSC PAL SECAM standards and those extra oddball systems as well.

[@LordVarkson]

Ok, ok please tell me what the hell PAL60 actually is, cause I've never figured it out. Some people say it's the PAL video format running at 60hz, some say it's NTSC with PAL colour while others have said it's literally just NTSC and they're lying to you.

[@danrulz98]

Newline makes those interactive panels these days and they sell the appropriate carts.... because yeah those things are FREAKING HEAVY

[@AuroraNemoia]

we had smartboards at school. generally, my eyesight was awful, so I got the smartboard feed on the laptop at my desk. super useful. I also spent time with teachers showing them tricks, and actually got them interested in the ways they could actually save themselves time and effort, for sure, better than the IT dep ever did.

[@hyperflares2879]

"So, why did I devote days of my life to custom adapt this giant TV to my wall?" *beat pause* "Well, it's neat!"

[@sagejpc1175]

"No dougal, these ones are small, those are far away"

[@syntaxvrc]

re: the IR remote in, I used to work for an arcade and bowling alley, and the TVs above the lanes used the IR remote input for communicating with a primary controller. we had one touchscreen PC at the control desk that would let us pick a display and change its channel or input from our promotional slideshow to ESPN or whatever other sports channel had The SportBall Game™ on. so the main AV control system would actually use that 3.5mm jack to basically pretend to be a remote control - you could see it enter the channel number one digit at a time xD

[@Pepino_Leonardo]

Digital whiteboards are very useful for big lecture halls, you can have a professor draw on one of those "smaller" screens and then project that to a big projector, so ppl in the back can follow along. it's definitely not just a drawing program for kids

[@theGamer93]

During my training as a radio and TV technician, my boss also sold new televisions. These were mainly TVs from the German brand Metz. Back then, they still produced everything in Germany and needed unique features to stand out from the cheaper Samsungs and LGs. For that, they had expansion slots, similar to PCI slots both external for tuners and internal for encoders/decoders as well as hard drives for recording, etc. So, the whole TV was modular. The customer could choose between different chassis, and the specialized dealer would configure the extras for them. They started this with CRT TVs and continued it with LCDs. I thought it was really cool. But as a trainee, I could only afford a simple LG. Also, the menu was unfortunately sometimes very slow, especially when programming and sorting channels which, of course, was work for interns or apprentices 😂

[@firesurfer]

I don't know why, but you kneeling down to type on the virtual keyboard was funny as heck.

[@chen939]

DUDE that pullout game is absolutely crazy

[@luppano]

This was a great video. From the start to the thank you section timing at the end.

[@impiaaa]

Oh and one of my classes back in high school did have a "smart board." The teacher actually found it useful, mostly to be able to draw/write on prepared powerpoint slides.

[@nealshankman836]

Adding a word of thanks for giving us some compelling content on a dark day. It's good to know you're out there being curious and excited about offbeat devices.

[@bigdude101ohyeah]

We had a fleet of these at uni, and they seemed to work well, considering how badly they got abused. Most of them were grossly underutilised - mostly being used as monitors in bookable shared spaces and classrooms. The ones in the classrooms were connected to the centralised presentation system. Also, it seems that NEC had their own digital signage little guy - the "NEC Live." The one that I saw on eBay runs Windows 7 Embedded, so it's a bona fide little guy.

[@CathodeRayDude]

The "NEC Live" thing is intriguing - I can't find any listings on ebay, was this a while ago? If it's still up, email me a link (youtube will filter it otherwise): cathoderaydude at gmail. Thanks!

[@jrc774]

I use one of these at work with a tricaster. Def a nice display. One of the things I like about it compared to other more consumer displays we have is that the buttons on the back are very easy to access with a hand and that it just turns on 100% of the time.

[@thephoenixking1086]

In my school here in the UK, We used smart-boards that had no display at all, they were a huge resistive touch screen that came with pens and an eraser, the actual image was done through a projector that matched the smart-board's touch board. This worked in a very similar way to what you were showing with the 75" Display, but a lot cheaper (since the smart-boards do not have a display, they are FAR cheaper, and you can use any projector you wanted as long as it matches the aspect ratio of the board). Some of these smart boards were designed to be used as an actual white board aswell, as long as you use a marker pen that is easily cleaned, this means if there is a power cut you can still use the board as a standard white board and still do class work (My school did not use this type, they used the ones I mentioned above, having a white board on either side of the smart board). My friend Callum M actually bought a projector and one of these boards for pretty cheap (around £300 total in 2018) to use as a home theatre of sorts that is interactive. It was a very cool nerdy idea that yes, was no where near as good as a 65" 4K OLED or whatever, but it was touchscreen and very cool to mess around with.

[@metaleggman18]

Yeah, iirc, all of those digital white boards had rolling mounts, so they could be pretty beefy boys. Tho I bought a pretty beefy setup for my TV so I could use it in tate mode, cost me about 2-400 dollars, can't remember exactly, and while it does kind of hang like that, it was rated to well past the specs of my TV iirc.

[@veiliener]

45:52 Galvanized!🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@Joe_Ray]

Spent a few years as an installer for this kind of stuff. One of the funniest things, any company paying for this, is probably paying for a seperate A/V system that does all the stuff these feautures would do, so its even more rare that any of these features get used than it would seem.

[@hg-sx5nk]

PAL-60 was used in Brazil. Aka PAL-M: exactly the same B&W M standard from the US (bandwidth, channel frequencies) but using PAL color standard adapted M system.

[@lassikinnunen]

I had a daewoo 32" 16 by nine crt that could do pal 60 and ntsc 50. And rgb 50/60.

[@LordVarkson]

I've heard that PAL-60 is a different thing than PAL-M, but I've been unable to figure out what make them different.

[@lassikinnunen]

@@LordVarkson proper pal-m has different amount of lines(like ntsc, 525) Pal-60 is the pal(50) just at 60hz(625 interlaced lines). Or its pal-m. Depends on the device. Only universal tv cards and such tend to support both even if the chips in the devices would.

[@zoeybledsoe9847]

This was way more entertaining than I thought it was going to be, thank you kind sir