SF3 Primer: Pianoing and Negative Edge

How to hit your super links really really easily.
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[@Lazysav]

Thanks for adding these new videos for SF3, finally getting a solid chance to play it in the anniversary addition and I'm getting bodied online 🤕

[@Ghaust8546]

Do you still play on that

[@gravityshark580]

i figured pianoing out from watching others play but i never knew about the releasing part this really makes super links much easier

[@OmnipotentO]

pianoing is like efficient button mashing. instead of hitting a single button multiple times with a single finger like a caveman what if you hit and released 3 buttons in orderly succession? galaxy brain

[@bajsbrev4651]

Having a blast on fightcade ty for these videos

[@RichardDunnKnowsAll]

This shit is overdrive Gargamel phresh, son. Baf, you gorgeous bastard *smooch*

[@RealEffingDeal]

You are the real mvp Bafael

[@JacksonParodi]

this is that good stuff

[@werhuo9981]

I land ken tc into shoryu alot thanks to this

[@taylorbee4010]

I had no idea this was 1f

[@AdamarLives]

this is one of those things that just seems beyond me on pad. Not giving up tho, just gonna have to spend that much more time practicing it.

[@Bafael]

I recorded it on pad.

[@AdamarLives]

Bafael thats encouraging actually, I'm gonna get it eventually I know. Edit: Update: I finally got it, holy shit. Thanks so much man, wouldnt have been able to without this video.

[@chriswendi3825]

@@Bafael do you have any advice on how to make kara cancels easier on pad? ive done it a couple times in training mode but it takes about 15 tries between each one for me

[@Bafael]

@@chriswendi3825 I put my finger between the two buttons and push both at once with slight weight emphasis on the one I want to hit first. Works reliably for me.

[@dgad87]

lol this video makes me feel like I can see behind the curtain finally

[@rossgraham4073]

would you recommend using negative edge for confirming something like cr.mk xx SA2 with chun?

[@Bafael]

That's actually a very late cancel rather than a link, so there's no precise timing to it. You just have to react fast.

[@johnstowe864]

Forealll!!

[@mrPottz]

Does this stuff apply to Dudleys overhead into super(corkscrew)? Because it's difficult doing it the conventional way.

[@ShoryukenTube]

That's precisely the sort of thing this is good for, yes.

[@zombieninjadude]

Might be a silly question but does this also work with the reverse order? By this I mean if you piano HK>MK>LK?

[@SHINBAXTER]

YES =)

[@burninginfilth]

Will this work pianoing the punches/kicks in reverse order? (Fierce, strong,jab) it just feels more natural to me but I'm not sure because it's not consistent

[@joseluisredondotello5289]

Yup, it is, but remember some ults have diferent versions if light, mid or hard

[@ZEBASS]

Yes! And that's acually the easiest way for most (at least right handed) people. Pianoing from lights to heavies feel incredibly awkward.

[@strafer8764]

Does it matter which strength you start the piano with?

[@JD-tl4zs]

no

[@RichardDunnKnowsAll]

#smooched

[@patstar3808]

That buffering is so exhausting after a while on pad. Probably on stick, too. I still got a question. How do you make it easier to cancel into supers? I have trouble to get it with Ken on his cr. Lk and cr. Mk.

[@Bafael]

Pat Star well for one thing there's a shortcut super motion in sf3. 23623. Down, d/f, forward, down, d/f.

[@patstar3808]

Found that shortcut. It's still pretty difficult to hitconfirm into it. Oh well, practice makes better i guess. Thanks for the help.

[@chanman201]

Try hitbox.

[@goldengoldy0197]

Any tips for doing this on pad? It feels really hard to do. I know you play on a PS1 Pad so I know there must be a trick to it.

[@maximilianor9]

Just get used to it, i do it for makotos sa1 and ibukis sa3, when u get used to it, u never fail the 1 frames

[@chachawho435]

can you make a video on how to urien unblockables and or combos

[@g0t3nks]

Here's the vid that helped me get started with maining Urien watch?v=9LhaKbNSreo

[@joseluisredondotello5289]

Dr steelhammer urien vids are great

[@Elivanse]

Because of negative edge when buffering super, after releasing c.mp I usually get a fireball. Any idea how to deal with this?

[@Bafael]

Start buffering the super motion JUST a little bit later, if you're getting cr. MP cancelled to fireball. Alternatively, tap it faster while doing cr. MP, it sounds like you might be holding the MP a little bit too long.

[@kastle09-gaming86]

Side question, is there plinking in SF3?

[@ShoryukenTube]

For normals, no. For specials, I don't think so but I'm actually not sure. There are very few instances where you'd plink anyway, believe it or not. Most grounded links are like the one in the video.

[@Galacticbraindentist]

Don’t think so. Double tapping kinda reduces the need for it

[@fuckin_uuuh9944]

He sounds like bafael. Is this him?

[@ShoryukenTube]

Indeed.

[@taylorbee4010]

I thought cmp shippu was a cancel

[@ZEBASS]

It can be cancelled AND linked into super, but if you do it as a cancel, there's not enough time to confirm it, you just gotta let it rip. Hence the need for a link :D

[@jrfproductions7226]

Is this possible on pad?

[@Bafael]

Late to reply but I recorded this on pad.

[@jrfproductions7226]

@@Bafael How does one plink on pad?

[@jrfproductions7226]

Like, if you're using an Xbox One pad like me, and you have light kick and medium kick on A and B, how do you do LK>MK in two consecutive frames?

[@Bafael]

@@jrfproductions7226 I put my thumb between the buttons and push down to hit them both at once, but I put very slight weight emphasis on the side of the one I want to hit first. It's quite reliable for me.

[@mrstickbird]

MORE GIVE ME FUCKING MORE KNOWLEDGE BAF PLEASE