SF8 SSBU - FOX | MkLeo (Joker) Vs. KJS | Maister (Game & Watch) Smash Ultimate Tournament W. Semis

[@sebastianrestrepo8484]

Me: ok, time to sleep. KZbin: Maister vs MKleo. Me: oh shit here we go again.

[@JVGreen150]

same lmao

[@iran1846]

True

[@bobbytornabene8800]

Jesus Christ that whole game was awesome. I think mk is starting to get figured out it's getting super entertaining watching him and people trying to beat him.

[@bobbytornabene8800]

@TUME 1 it's honestly very entertaining. I've been helping my brother play game and watch and hes come a long way Magister just knows his character in and out and goes all in which is fucking awesome!

[@Gr33nPhoenix]

@TUME 1 he's so extremely fast with everything he does it looks like he's practiced so much and uses what works best in nearly every situation. He's a beast

[@johnhallberg6084]

4:04 Leo short hops with gun, jumps a second time, and fast falls into nair. The players deserve so much credit for their success, not just the characters.

[@trashpigeon1164]

Pretty sure that he fast falled nair

[@johnhallberg6084]

Ridley Johnstone my bad you’re right it was a nair. I had to turn down the play speed to .25 to see it clearly

[@food9398]

Those inputs alone would make my brain so confused. Man, the amount of precision required to execute those controls is on a whole different level.

[@hobron9593]

Maister: Arsen doesn’t exist Mkleo: I don’t need him. You though it was Arsen but it was me Joker.

[@anthonysteinerv]

This is something else because G&W is a bad MU for joker

[@ghanaria7996]

Hobron 012838 Dio*

[@hobron9593]

Jesse Calzada yes Dio reference

[@hobron9593]

Anthony Steiner Maister still did pretty well against Joker and even stalled out Arsen very well. Sure he lost but he still tried his best.

[@keias017]

HOL UP, IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?!

[@sarveshsrinivasan4298]

Game and watch is good, but mkleo is mkleo... huge congrats to both players... hope they perform amazingly at future tournaments and strive to become champions of some tournament

[@kash2862]

Maiseter still got losers, I hope he makes a bug run, also I hope glu can beat leo

[@augustcelineiii946]

It's not over yet?

[@gvchfcgvvhb6319]

mr game and watch is actually really good, he has loads of good moves and, and tons of bs and gimmicks

[@jeffersonian4]

So what happened in the final game after a close set the whole way? My observations: 1) Leo was very aggressive in the earlier games and Maister punished well. In the final game Leo adapted with some small hesitations that threw off Maister's timing 2) Maister let the moment get to him. In the earlier games he responded to Leo patiently and creatively (e.g. 4:15 after Leo rebel-guarded his spaced bair, he responds with a dair for the kill), but in the final game: a) Leo catches him making untimely air dodges (e.g. 13:58) , and b) Maister falls back too much on his up-B. Before, he used it strategically, and got a lot off of it (up-B into uair or nair, etc), whereas in the final game he throws it out as a panic option, which was far less effective and Leo made him pay for it

[@Rokusho1416]

I hate it when people just brags about a character being "OP". It's the player and their skill who gets the job done, Maister showed us that, and MkLeo's adaptability to any situation in tournaments is unbelievable. Both players were amazing!

[@MeatYourDEMYRO]

Alejandro P P YEAH same it pisses me off to hear people say that too!

[@Scrattah]

Joker is broken in certain match ups and I'd agree with people that he's a top five character but that doesn't change MK Leo's skill AT ALL.

[@MeatYourDEMYRO]

With arsene it makes him broken but joker alone he ranks up damage combos without aresene and he makes a little damage without arsene. Joker is not going to be the best character in the game. I'm pretty sure there are other characters that can beat joker but not beat mkleo. so yeah.

[@Rokusho1416]

@@Scrattah Of course it doesn't, even if I sound like a fangirl cheering for him everytime I get the chance to do it. MkLeo seems like an amazing player to me, and it doesn't matter which character you play, it'll never change your skills as a player

[@Rokusho1416]

@@MeatYourDEMYRO Yeah, I know, they're pretty poor comments and everyone knows that everything comes from skill, not the character you're playing with

[@-ikarus-4846]

9:42 PSA, This is how you beat Rebel's Guard

[@dmgdisciple9680]

How unlucky do you have to be to not get a throw to 9 the entire set?

[@jakefrompc6287]

No rng is BS it’s what he deserves for relying on a joke instead of consistent damage

[@forevorseal]

@@jakefrompc6287 relying on rng? My guy made top 8 at a tournament stacked with top players and you're saying he "relied" on rng? Are we watching the same game?

[@vertsang5424]

@@jakefrompc6287 he doesn't rely on it, he always do it at the end of a combo. it work, he get a kill, it doesn't, he still get a few percents. G and W don't have many combos finishers as good

[@candysell]

That's the 2nd time Mkleo got 9'd by Maister. First time was on a Twitch stream

[@huntercollins5775]

JakefromPC i can guarantee you couldn’t get a game off him

[@foxdrake194]

Una leyenda frente a otra. Lucha de gigantes. Un duelo salvaje. Esto no se ve todos los dias

[@cristianreyesreyes6816]

sin duda espero que se vuelva a repetir

[@elyoshiprro4246]

Yo quiero ver la revancha de Zero vs mkleo

[@hattorigalfor449]

@@elyoshiprro4246 Por el momento no creo, Zero tiene miedo de Leo, sabe que ya está en otro nivel

[@elimun10]

Hattori Galfor ZeRo dijo en stream que el es el que puede derrotar a Leo, y yo le creo (si es que decide competir en EVO y practicar)

[@onmymamba9850]

This man who commentated with ketairo is hilarious his reactions

[@XxPelluquin63xX]

I'm ngl I feel like Maister could've won those games much more earlier and easily if he didnt keep going for the judgement hammer. Then again, Maister is the god of hype.

[@jeilastnamejei5831]

To be fair, gnw doesn't really habe any other combo finishers from that position because of his fair.

[@SwagZombie]

Oh no my two mains and favorite players fighting I don’t know what to do

[@williammoon3122]

Nobody: Mexican comentarist: Vete por un Argul!

[@TARINunit9]

You don't need to preface your comments with "Nobody" to trick people into thinking it's a punchline. Just do the joke

[@exiaax]

at 1:42, "what are you doing? what have you got there?" Maister: "a KNIFE!" "NOOOO"

[@raimitodelitofederal5435]

De todos los combates que vi, es el primero que pierde maister, bueno se enfrento contra mkleo que es un maestro.

[@kep2871]

I'm not sure whether Leo was a bit shaky this tournament or whether other people are just figuring him out. Of course both of them played great, but Leo just seemed a little bit off this tournament.

[@food9398]

Yeah I think they were both afraid of each other. I watch Maister a lot and he seemed more cautious, which is unusual for him. I think it's because both players are really good and they both know they are good. MkLeo is obviously one of the best players in the game. Maister is also really good but he has the "unfamiliar matchup advantage" and the explosive kill power of bucket and 9. Leo did a good job. He never gave Maister full bucket. It was also unfortunate that Maister didn't get any 9's. That's RNG for ya though.

[@alexxxspex8701]

2:48 that counter though... it actually hits Game & Watch from below

[@bananaapple5059]

It got reflected down

[@vasty1381]

Y’all stfu about joker being broken maister and Leo both fought their hearts out and both have things to improve on there will be other matches it’s the player not the character

[@noparkingbp7355]

I love this commentator and hope he commentates every maister match here on out

[@BigPortu2]

I wonder if the last game could have went differently if Maister didn’t hit two 1s as Leo went down to one stock. Maister gave himself an extra 24% to bring it up to 99% against Leo’s last stock.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Judge shouldn't have recoil damage on the 1. It's already such a trash move...

[@andreimarsic6607]

Maister is the best game and watch you cant change my mind

[@bryann3744]

Andrei Marsic can’t change what’s already correct

[@kazbeard]

Facts can’t be changed

[@jaggs9000]

Patch 4.0 is coming over in a couple days I wonder what's going to happen

[@apes4days254]

Buff Falcon

[@vick7868]

I dont main him, but buff Meta Knight. Also, don't nerf Pac-Man lol, that's my main XD

[@0vershadow]

Apes4Days nerf jokerrrr. Either shorten the time for arsene or nerf his damage and counter. It’s pure bs. That some characters don’t even have a single option better than joker’s third or fourth best option. Wtf. They should nerf normal joker’s fsmash too.

[@vick7868]

@@0vershadow Honestly, the counter is the only thing I agree with there. Rebel's Guard is fine as it is, but the counter with Arsene is a bit ridiculous. The only reason I think Arsene is fine as is is because without Arsene he hits like a noodle.

[@0vershadow]

Vivek Tarkunde Vivek Tarkunde Vivek Tarkunde does he actually hit like a noodle tho? I feel like everyone just buys into that stereotype, but from watching matches. Even this match especially the damage dealt per hit isn’t any less than most characters. Mkleo actually was winning more with joker in this set. And his fsmash and back air kill most characters in the early 100s while other characters seem to still have trouble sending joker to his death until the mid 100s with their own smashes. And what other character has a charge up anywhere close to arsene? Wario’s waft? Samus’s ball? Donkey Kong? Cloud? Mewtwo? How is joker balanced when his charge up is levels better than everyone else’s but his is the easiest to charge. Arsene is pretty much guaranteed to get every stock while other characters might not even get to charge in time and only get one hit with their charged attack. All I’m saying is that something as good as arsene should be harder to charge up not be the easiest most guaranteed charge in the game.

[@加州船]

ゲムヲの下方修正確立を高めてくれて感謝感謝(白目)

[@luckylucas8596]

It’s not that Maister is struggling against Joker and not Arsene, it’s that Maister is getting combo’d at low percents (generally when MKLeo is also at low percents).

[@JVGreen150]

bucket stalling Arsene is the new G&W meta

[@ソルジャー-e1h]

Maister対マイスターG見たい

[@jansenmtan]

What a beautiful set Both players are so masterful Maister shows he studies the matchup and innovates with g&w Leo maintains his god play

[@princeofalltoasters8813]

Thank you Maister, for making a Joker main actually have to work for it and not relying on his insta-win meter

[@scuot7327]

Win or loose. Leo never disappoints.

[@RedDenim]

I don't think Joker needs to get nerfed but I feel like they'll lessen the time on Arsen in the next patch

[@candysell]

And his long counter as well.

[@0vershadow]

The fact that there are some characters that are barely staying even with normal joker. How is this fair that joker can go super Saipan and others are straight up krillin. plus charging arsene is like the easiest shit compared to the charging for Samus, donkey Kong, cloud, wario. Easier to charge and 100x better. Where is the balance?

[@turnergantt123]

0vershadow I think base joker is really fair actually. Arsene is a bit much. Wish they did what they did with lucario, lessening the comeback mechanic to make the character more balanced overall

[@ir-dan8524]

Both phenomenal players, good game.

[@jhonatantoilinetti216]

Mis respetos para maister, desde hoy soy un fan del

[@marinadavies1917]

I’m love watching maister

[@imnotgonnasugarcoatit]

MKLeo is the best _MEXICAN_ Player

[@guillermohappy2131]

Only the BEST

[@nottheworstgamer346]

Who is that commentating with keitaro?

[@justjosh26]

15:22 lmao the homie %20

[@ReconNarwhal]

As a joker main I think this matchup is like 55-45 in Game N’ Watch’s favor. It’s hard as hell to apply shield pressure and punish landings against him. Maister was insane in this set though.

[@babafgc3795]

Maister put up a great fight

[@duhitsmicah7584]

I realise that i never saw a 9 on every hit he took from judge but im on game 2 right now so It was a great match btw but i forgot about gnw having to be tied for the third lightest character in smash so its kind of a dissapointment knowing that joker + arsen is going to demolish gnw but i believe in maisters way of studying his opponents

[@linkonedgell894]

Judge spam in winners finals, sounds about right

[@cailieisidro5758]

MKLeo and Maister are good players that I can't choose who's better. However Joker really needs to be nerfed especially with his down b. Mr. Game & Watch's buff in Ultimate is already fine with me because he was low tier in other games.

[@turnergantt123]

I main joker and I just want arsene nerfed so people stop complaining. I like the character a lot so it sucks that I get hate for playing him. I think non arsene joker is pretty fine honestly though

[@Mookie908]

Turner Gantt I think he’s fine without Arsene too, but joker has arsene more than he doesn’t. Making him unbelievably strong consistently

[@taxman7617]

I would say Leo is way better than Maister at the moment. Not even close.

[@inzywedr]

Here I feel again like the judges like maister more than Leo

[@danielgonzalez2067]

Con honor hasta el final Maister

[@DannyGGchannel]

Jokers counter is so busted....

[@humbertogarcia2564]

Get Maister in the PGR, PLEASE

[@glitchunicorn]

damn! MKLeo is unstoppable

[@bonesq1119]

4:58 UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@itechiiiuchiha2817]

Y’all just hating on Mkleo

[@MeatYourDEMYRO]

Itechiii Uchiha I love mkleo man such hates on him. Jeez people you guys are just complaining about joker being OP well I got news for you he's not OP he is just Average.

[@MrDanedo]

@@MeatYourDEMYRO He's not op, he's average. But I'd still say he's high tier.

[@MeatYourDEMYRO]

MadRock That's what I'm saying so yes.

[@MeatYourDEMYRO]

Mars's ZSS beated leos joker. So with that Mars's would win.

[@dio4296]

@@MeatYourDEMYRO Leo is really good but let's be real here, Joker is not even close to being average. Joker is everything Sheik lacks on top of having pretty much the same mobility, it puts you on kill percentage with insane combos without Arsene then destroys you when Arsene comes out.

[@carlosisaachernandez6370]

Ola chaparro

[@Ozi_i]

mkleoに一勝できただけでも誇りに思おう！

[@ふるゆーた]

誰が言ってんだよw

[@DrBx3]

Is he unlucky or there is a way to switch off the 9 hammer ?

[@grafil01]

Mr.B he got it once near the end, he just got really unlucky, but that’s how it is with rng

[@dillanmatney9958]

It seemed more consistent to get 9 in smash 4 you'll be lucky to even get it twice during a match in Ultimate.

[@TheMightOfGeburah]

Ah Shit, here we go again

[@fourtrees1743]

joker seems broken af

[@atombomb2454]

nooo, maister!

[@renesaldana9878]

Is there a tourney wher leo loses?

[@annabethchase2569]

lol, did you watch Grands yet?

[@Greeds_]

this one

[@gerardoq.4536]

Donde esta el pinche chaparro alv

[@hattorigalfor449]

Jajajaja no está al nivel. No lo digo por odio yo también veo sus videos pero está muy lejos de llegar a este nivel.

[@gerardoq.4536]

@@hattorigalfor449 lo digo en sarcasmo jaja pienso igual que tu

[@R0tR0tR0tR0]

Yo tambien quería ver a chaparro pero ya que

[@carlosisaachernandez6370]

Donde está el Chaparro? Pos de comentarista xd

[@marcosvargas825]

Comento este combate el chaparro? Xd

[@lcandothat]

Miaste

[@estebanirizarry7370]

Mkleo is a great player. But joker is so powerful and may need a patch, especially arsen.

[@EaglesTime]

Esteban Irizarry lol not another joker in the top 25 but yet joker is OP 😂😂😂, you cant nerf every player leo plays

[@NihalMandava]

@@EaglesTime "nerf ike"

[@reddemondrag]

Mkleo won no mater who he played. Ike, Lucinda, now joker. Just has a really solid grasp of the fundamentals

[@reddemondrag]

No one else is getting super amazing results with joker as far as I know

[@relaxingred2090]

The only other top player that uses Joker is Wishes as his secondary. MKLeo is just way too good for this planet on Ultimate.

[@jayisasalad]

Idc how good mkleo is. it just gets boring when the character doesn't have anything entertaining in it's kit. Aside from drag down into up b, Joker is super boring to watch. Most often you just wait until arsen 3 stocks someone. And sure Maister held off, but Jokers already powerful enough on his own that Maister dies anyway. Just boring.

[@nruelos]

Man can that commentator stop just saying the moves? “ mkleo with f-tilt” . Bro we can see them doing these moves. No need to say it