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[@SpeakOnFS1]

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[@joshking2991]

Lamar Jackson… I believe Lamar Jackson fits the “largest discrepancy” between MVPs and superbowl wins. Not Rodgers.

[@michaelbowman3581]

Love the video leaving disslike because the video was backwards i heard the end of the argument then it cut to the beginning. Besides that it's k

[@phillipepps1598]

@@joshking2991 give it time he will win one

[@richardklambie]

Why would I watch a failing commentator on a failing show??

[@NickSibz]

As a lifelong Jets fan. I am also tired of hearing about the Jets.

[@orlandocardoza974]

Ouch! I love it but I feel yio.

[@Cjbrown2x]

Just stay with it

[@jonathonfinklea3342]

Why don’t they say that about them cowboys stop talking and just go do it.

[@KingMaz1]

best comment I've seen all day lol

[@NYCRyderman]

Me too bro, me too. Like Nike, just do it.

[@yahcrack]

Love JJ sticking up for his QB

[@Jayalexander63]

Did people forget that Rodgers literally won a SB ring…… And give him the defenses that Mahomes has had. How many touchdowns did Mahomes score in the SB besides OT?

[@lavellrobinson1648]

@@Jayalexander63 What are you talking about? This year was the only time Mahomes had a top ranked defense

[@BirdLives7]

​@@Jayalexander63what about the other SBs Mahomes won. Also look at his entire playoff record. He gets better, Rogers gets worse.under the pressure

[@Jayalexander63]

@@lavellrobinson1648 LMAO he still had above average defenses in the other 2. last year he had a top 5 defense Also Andy Reid helps too

[@MoreKINGsLessWARRIORS]

Talent perspective it goes arig mahomes Marino from a goat perspective I say Brady Montana and elway Peyton right after

[@thevilinirony]

I don't normally like shadys points but he ain't wrong on this one . James is being Bias AF but I respect him for it.

[@skillethead15]

Shady is a hypocrite. He’s the same one who was always bringing up how hard it is to win a Super Bowl. But now Aaron Rodgers was supposed to win 4 or 5. There’s only so much you can do by yourself.

[@Serukami23]

McCoy was on Rodgers and the jets bandwagon during the off season. But now he wants to switch to a different argument, while James Jones been saying the same thing about Rodgers. This should've been McCoy narrative in the off season about Rodgers but he just wanted to argue.

[@BirdLives7]

​@@skillethead15it's hard to win a SB but there are QBs that have multiple. Rogers is the best ever but he's only been to 1?

[@Jayalexander63]

Did people forget that Rodgers literally won a SB ring…… Give him the defenses that Mahomes has had. How many touchdowns did Mahomes score in the SB besides OT? Ring culture ruined everything

[@sonikspeed19]

@@Jayalexander63 Bruh, Eli Manning, the most average QB ever, has 2 SB and beat the Pats twice. You're telling me that Rodgers, in that sorry division, with all his talent and weapons, couldn't win 1 or 2 more? At least go to more SB. He can't even do that. In 20 years you get to 1 and win 1? That's more of a fluke then, when he can't even get to another SB over all these years. I don't care what the reason, if you're that good you make it hapen.

[@mgardner70]

Shady delivered it straight, no chaser.

[@raystroud8018]

Best take he ever had not saying he right but idk if he wrong he brought up pat and Tom they had/have the league in a choke hold never Aaron

[@mgardner70]

@@thomascrown6516 None factor. He told the truth. Take all the time you need with that.

[@LKS-M9323]

Shady sound idiotic. Guess Tim Teebow gets a pass. Mark Sanches, McNabb the list goes on

[@dantebrante3784]

Bro Rodgers did more with less than any sports player in history

[@xazvierstevenson6999]

Y’all tripping

[@hoopsdebriefed8180]

Rodger’s is the biggest under achievemer in my opinion

[@Ergo8152]

Where has Dr Rodgers been shame we don't get bits of wisdom anymore. Threat of lawsuit scare the no it all

[@flexonem97]

U forgot ya mother

[@nassturner-pd4of]

That’s crazy bc he’s not the reason they went to 1 Super Bowl did u watch Seattle championship what about 49ers what about bucs that defense letting a td before half oh and what about in Atlanta 😂

[@nassturner-pd4of]

Oh and he lost a playoff game when he put up 44 points

[@crichen]

​​@@nassturner-pd4ofand that is on rodgers? are you talking about the playoff game against the cardinals where rodgers threw for over 400 yards? the game where the defense gave up 51 points? the game where at the end his facemask was grabbed (no call)? Also the same game where after it was over antrel rolle said that he never wanted to face aaron rodgers again in his life. he would rather face drew brees any day of the week before he faced him again.

[@theflyent7106]

I mean james had some points but the crew wasn't lying

[@luckitae7592]

A RB shouldn’t ever speak on a QB…😂 let alone Rodgers the best accurate QB ever…. In the most recent era

[@tweetybyrd316]

Yeah Shady got this one!!! AROD is an underachiever!!!!

[@Jeff-n5i]

FS1 should replace Undisputed with Speak in the morning.

[@jamesbrantley8105]

I 💯 agree

[@Jay-ci4to]

I agree too undisputed as become unwatchable, I look forward to watching speak lol 💯

[@Carlosbooze]

Idk I like how this show is later in the day so when news that day breaks out they can immediately talk about it instead of waiting the next day

[@briananderson9650]

This show is trash😂😂😂😂

[@briananderson9650]

Rogers won what 1 sb😂😂😂

[@TheHitman0024]

SHADY SPOKE FACTS 💨 & STOP Skipping the 🐐 JOE MONTANA!!!!!

[@chiefsagain]

MAHOMES the 🐐 GOAT

[@blackanimelover18]

No one skips Montana, he's usually considered the 2nd best ever.

[@Firestorm2814Sector]

No one puts Rodgers over Montana anyways. Its Brady, Montana, Nahomes, Manning and then maybe Rodgers

[@Jayalexander63]

Rodgers literally has 1 ring….. Give him the defenses Mahomes has had

[@lavellrobinson1648]

@@Jayalexander63 You do realize this year was the best defense Mahomes has ever had right

[@billyclyde768]

Shady and Joy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@tracemusiq]

Shady spoke nothing but truth in this segment. Who cares about MVP awards. Rogers has been trash in the playoffs since the superbowl win.

[@AilmanF2P]

1-2 times you can say the defense failed him but he also has horrible stats in the playoffs. There comes a point that he is not a clutch QB when it matters. Rodgers has had a top 10 defense with home field advantage.

[@tracemusiq]

@@AilmanF2P I totally agree. Talent is just that if you can't use that talent to produce when it counts.

[@princecheck11]

he really didnt tho bc at the end of the day Aaron still is a first ballot hof

[@dorothyhunter4656]

So lamar 2mvps don't matter ?

[@BirdLives7]

​@@princecheck11which makes it even worse that with all his talent and accolades, he only has one.

[@colbyryans1018]

I noticed these guys always disrespect or say they tired of talking when it's someone they don't like they never do that with players who aren't as good but they like

[@DadgumBatman]

Yeah I noticed that too.. Acho was defending Daniel Jones the other day saying that he can’t be “successful” because he goes through a lot of coaching but when it comes to Justin Herbert his coaching carousel doesn’t matter he just needs to go out and win.. I understand Herbert is a better talent but still

[@BigDave113100]

Yeah. It’s pretty pathetic

[@Jayalexander63]

That’s the problem with Shady…he’s awful

[@jrcrit8843]

@@DadgumBatmanyou Herbert fans will never pass up an opportunity to glaze him even when not the topic. Dude is not top tier. Get over it

[@DadgumBatman]

@@jrcrit8843 I’m not a Herbert fan lol.. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy

[@yahcrack]

Aaron Rodgers belongs in Brees, Eli, Big Ben, Favre convo

[@JB-vm3hi]

Dan Marino

[@JB-vm3hi]

And he never won a SB

[@mpg3946]

Correct take. He isn't in the very top level conversation. He's in the that tier 2 all time great conversation.

[@jaywashington7225]

Eli doesn’t belong on that list

[@Jfazo4]

How Rodgers is way better than those individuals He has 4 MVPs & a Super Bowl & the highest passer rating of all time & the best TD to INT ratio of all time Rodgers clears them

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

If I was running the Jets I'd tell him no Pat McAfee show this season.

[@Topdiketv]

Pat McAfee show is the reason he faked his injury but that’s a story for another day. 😂

[@mgardner70]

Pat distanced himself from the most disingenuous player in a decade.

[@midasxint434]

@@Topdiketv no explain. What you mean?👀

[@COA5T]

You really think that's going to fly? He already has his contract so you can't just add that in there. So you're just going to walk up to him and say...what exactly? "Aaron we don't approve of you being on the Pat McAfee Show, even if it is during your own free time away from the team. Stop it." Lol. Let's say hypothetically you do tell him that: If he says fk off, then what? You going to bench him? Cut him? Lol. People are funny.

[@qaxcgyujm]

He got kicked off Pat's show after the Kimmel incident anyway, the mouse probably wasn't dealing with the drama from his interviews anymore so they got Pat to take him off.

[@jjsdaddy86]

I respect James for having the courage to back his guy, but you gotta take the feelings and loyalty out of this conversation.

[@robertmosley1857]

I rarely agree with much Shady says.... But he is 100% correct & right on this topic.

[@heartbreak25]

I'm a lifelong Packers fan. I didn't hear one lie told by Shady. 1 Super Bowl and 1 appearance is underachieving.

[@wblake22]

You’re a Packer fan? One thing the don’t mention is those other guys also had hall of fame coaches all time greats. Mike McCarthy will never be in that conversation. If it’s all about championships why the world don’t call Bill Russell the goat with 11 championships? When it comes to him it’s not about championships

[@nathanclements6635]

@@wblake221 superbowl is not enough... don't blame everything on the coaches. Matt Lefleur has been undeniably good last season with Jordan Love and Rodgers has underperformed year after year in the playoffs. Stop making excuses

[@kendalgreene8688]

@@wblake22Simple Bill Russell wasn’t even the main guy until his 3rd ring and he had hall of fame players top to bottom and was never the highest scorer or assist man on the team.

[@heartbreak25]

@@wblake22 Yes, since 1986 when the Majik Man was behind center. Does McCarthy and MLF get credit for the multiple division wins, top 3 conference finishes, and his 4 MVPs? Don't blame coaching for his failures if you're not going to blame coaching for his successes. If you don't know the difference between Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Shaquille O'Neal then I don't know what to tell you. The #1 reason Wilt Chamberlain is not considered the GOAT is because of his lack of titles. The #1 reason LeBron is not considered the GOAT over MJ is because of lesser titles.

[@Dipset415]

Dan Marino 🤔

[@marvellis6762]

Rodgers is put on this pedestal of greatness and its unwarranted

[@g-h-l]

Delusional

[@marvellis6762]

Cry to mummy if the truth hurts... kid!

[@g-h-l]

@marvellis6762 It doesn't hurt me at all. It's just factually incorrect to say Rodgers isn't one of the greatest QBS of all time. Is he Peyton, Montana, or Brady? No. But he is top 10 at worst, most likely top 5 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@orlandocardoza974]

I love Joy and Shady's doubtful faces as James talks up Rogers. I think that Rogers is an underachiever.

[@ChefRL19]

Shady spitting facts. I've saying it many times, if he is so talented why can't he win. I hate when people can't look pass reality just because they were teammates.

[@liljewels15]

Exactly because you have to be a friend instead of a teammate and tell them yo I know you’re great but you haven’t gotten it done man you haven’t been back to the big dance ever since the first one. It’s kinda hard to put you up in those categories because other than the MVPs, you don’t really got enough more on your resume to put you up with the others

[@justsaying5633]

Rodgers is a great QB and he’s very talented but you definitely can’t put him in the same category as Brady, Montana and Mahomes. Rings is the only thing that matter, not MVPs or stats just Rings.

[@slimmyjim1682]

You ring culture bozos are hilarious 😂

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

His conference championship stats speak for themselves. He protects his stats so much in the regular season he's just not the same guy when it's crunch time.

[@johnathanjones2886]

I’m just saying it’s funny how Brady and mahomes get all the credit when they have a top 10 defense and hall of fame tight ends but when Aaron Rodgers takes bad teams to the playoffs he’s an underachievers

[@AilmanF2P]

@@johnathanjones2886 Bro, so Rodgers never had a top 10 defense? How about the three year stretch when the Packers were 13-3, #1 seed, hold field advantage, Best WR, best RB duo, MVP QB, Top 10 defense, the second best LT in football and in an easier conference. Why did he lose to Jimmy G in the first round or Brady when he threw 3 back to back INTs? Stop making excuses, Packers/ Rodgers are front runners. When they have a lead they are great, when they get punched in the mouth the team including Rodgers folds.

[@freddygaulman5493]

​@@slimmyjim1682as opposed to what exactly? Hyping up guys every year that put up regular season stats but choke in the playoffs??

[@morebillz5940]

This is unbelievable! Shady lost his mind and this lady lost hers. Watch what Aaron Rodgers and the Jets do this year.

[@kopi6575]

They gonna do it.

[@aaronbischoff721]

I usually like James Jones’s takes but I’m rolling with Shady. Rodgers is talented but underachieved is totally fair. 4 league MVPs is nice but with just one Super Bowl is totally a fair point

[@bigmarkmja]

6 of rodgers playoff losses his D gave up 37-45 points. 3 losses he had game tying drives and never got the ball back. 9 losses.

[@blackanimelover18]

4 MVPS is better than "nice", only one guy has more.

[@Jayalexander63]

Do you know how many things need to go right to win a SB? Mahomes getting carried up and down by his defense

[@BirdLives7]

​​@@Jayalexander63what about the other 2 SB Mahomes won? Mahomes has also been down by 10 in every SB he has played. He gets it done when it counts. Also forgot to mention his receivers had the most drops this season

[@aaronbischoff721]

@@Jayalexander63 this year yeah. What about last year’s Super Bowl with out Hill? Or the first against San Francisco? Think that was more offense than defense

[@yahcrack]

Jets have an elite defense. Need an OL, WR2 and WR3.

[@ES-qt6yo]

So the WR AR wanted who is making 11M/Yr isn't even a WR3??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Jennifer_Elliott]

For his talent level, Aaron under achieved in the playoffs.

[@nassturner-pd4of]

No he didn’t did u watch these nfc championship games his team was selling crazy 😂

[@crichen]

@Jennifer_Elliott how many playoff games with aaron rodgers have you watched?

[@nassturner-pd4of]

@@crichen thank u bro thank u he’s definitely not the reason they lose in the playoffs I’ll give y’all that 49ers L that’s about it mf be carrying

[@crichen]

@@nassturner-pd4of so many people talk down on rodgers nfl career but most do not have a clue what they are talking about

[@nassturner-pd4of]

@@crichen mfs don’t be watching games fr real Rodgers fans know why he only got 1 and it’s funny his only 1 was with a top 8 defense 😂

[@DORAEMON-bw8jk]

Aaron Rodgers looks like Luigi with the green jacket and beanie.

[@adamn2268]

These convos are so tired because non of these analyst understand the difference between greater and better. Greater typically refers to quantity (trophies) or size ( accomplishments) whereas better refers to a quality or level of excellence. The Best - Rodgers, mahomes, & Marino The greatest - Mahomes, montana, & Brady Mahomes - only player in both categories. Credit to him Tom is the greatest because of team accomplishments but they intentionally ignore the fact that Tom Brady had 17 top 10 defenses, the greatest kicker ever in Adam Vinatieri, the greatest TE ever in rob gronkowski, the greatest coach ever ( arguably ) in bill bellichick, cheating scandals, and a 500 mil dollar wife which allowed him to oh so graciously take paycuts. Toms the GOAT but this rewriting of history is absolutely ridiculous. You can go down the line with ever qb they mentioned. Great or Elite players in Elite organizational situations. Aaron was an Elite player in a good organizational situation which is why he has only 1 SuperBowl. Players & situations 1) Bad, decent, good, great, & elite 2) Depending on the combination you get determines the level of organizational success 3) Elite players & Elite situations = dynasties

[@shep1582]

I disagree they understand greatest is GOAT and that's your second group. Most conversations are that and most people don't think Rodgers like the Joy, Acho and Shady should be in the GOAT conversation. Not a Patriots fan, but to say Tom was just Tom because of team c'mon. He goes to Tampa & wins, limited talented in NE and wins. I hear you, but don't buy it.

[@adamn2268]

@@shep1582Tampa was loaded and just a qb away. Toms one of the best and THE greatest so this isn’t any shot at him but they try and boil down a sport with a 52 man roster, 3 phases ( 33.3% credit for each phase generally speaking ), and an organizational situation ( coaching, gm, & owner ) to ONE person which is ridiculous. That’s why I brought up Tom’s elite situation. They also rarely ( credit to Acho ) bring up the fact that Aarons defenses over his career on average have given up 30+ points a game in the playoffs

[@Dipset415]

@@shep1582bra he threw 5 interceptions and 1 touchdown in a playoff run and won his 2nd superbowl 💯Brady was not the guy early on. Tampa went 7-9 with a qb throwing 30 picks and gronk suh jpp AB and fournette joined that squad. Tampa was loaded stop making it seem like Brady took some bums in Tampa and the Super Bowl was at home

[@804M.O.B]

Facts!!

[@BirdLives7]

You make good points. Only thing I would add is Rogers for worse during the playoffs that the regular season. Whilst the likes of Mahomes, Brady got better. That's not just on their coaching and orgs.

[@bronsonbamnallen1633]

Lamar with 2 MVPs and 0 Super Bowls is fixing to be a bigger disparity. Doesnt his MVP totals match his career playoff wins?

[@dariusewing6962]

2 MORE THAN YOUR GUY IM SURE....OTHER LAST WHEN DID LAMAR EVER HAVE HELP...

[@universe-ie2mk]

​@dariusewing6962 bro just cut it out. Just look up the rosters.

[@saynomoremedia7463]

Lamar 27

[@midasxint434]

@@universe-ie2mkThe ravens do NOT have any skill position talent. Zay flowers came this year and if your best wr is a 20 year old 160lb kid you got problems. But all this really points out is that Lamar as much as I like him, he’s not what Mahomes is. Mahomes won two Super Bowls With some guys who don’t start on teams he beat in the super bowl.

[@johnbox271]

"Lamar... is fixing to be..." Possibly, but that book isn't written yet. He has the talent, and had some very good teams, but come playoffs he gets off track.

[@daniewilliams07]

Shady, did this logic apply to your personal favorite Josh Allen? 🙄

[@DerQuanDoucett]

Not at all 😂😂

[@virgil7272]

tbf no one is putting Josh Allen up there with Brady, Montana, Mahomes, and Manning like they do with Aaron Rodgers

[@saynomoremedia7463]

@@virgil7272they say Josh the second best in the league tho and he hasn’t earned that

[@darnelllarryscott7032]

didit even apply to Shady, he was never an integral part of a SB winner, for his rings his best days were long gone, he was just a part time role player a mop up guy

[@DerQuanDoucett]

@@virgil7272 bc when they say top 5 QBs it’s Brady/mahomes, Montana, Peyton and then who else would get that 5th spot? Rodgers right? So he is in that tier of qbs.

[@Sp33dShadow03]

This is the first time I agree with shady I been seeing this for years now

[@thetarheel2010j]

By Shady’s logic, shouldn’t Peyton Manning be the most overrated QB of all time??

[@johnnybuchananjr9344]

Manning got championships Plural

[@thetarheel2010j]

@@johnnybuchananjr9344 he has 1 more chip than Aaron… wanna talk about the number of years he choked in the playoffs and was 1 and done with the best record in the AFC??? Manning routinely choked and came up small vs Brady

[@devilsreject5343]

@@thetarheel2010j When you speak about Manning, you should also speak up about how many times his defense blew leads and cost him games. You should talk about how he was the primary reason they were where they were almost every year. Dude set records, had 5 MVPs, 4 SB appearances, and 2 rings.... and his defenses still were the reason he lost many playoff games... Meanwhile, Brady had 4 years out of his entire career where he did not have a top 5-10 defense. Manning had maybe 3 years out of his 18 year career with a top 5-10 defense.

[@blackanimelover18]

@@devilsreject5343 You mean the same thing that happened to Rodgers in his career?

[@DerQuanDoucett]

@@johnnybuchananjr9344he threw more ints than touchdowns in that first run and we know for a fact he got carried in that last one

[@abcpanther]

Shady speaks facts!! Always hear about Rodger’s arm. Besides personal achievements, he loses

[@liljewels15]

Exactly because let’s be real no fanbase cares about your MVPs if you ain’t bringing championships back to the city/state how do you think rams fans when they finally won another Super Bowl after a certain time and what’s so crazy is that Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers have brought Green Bay Packers two championships and only 30+ years

[@quintonwilliams9944]

Acho during Shady’s rant got me dying 😂😭

[@tag_76]

The argument Shady is making about Rodgers is the same argument I make about Lamar. People want to put in the conversation with all time great QBs and Lamar hasn't done anything post season. At least A-Rod does have a SB and 4 MVPs.

[@Rickane503]

Shady talkin like he contributed to his 2 rings he got, if he didn't ride brady and mahomes jock in his last 2 seasons he would just be another under achieving RB

[@johnnybuchananjr9344]

Facts

[@shep1582]

Dude, why personal? Shady's an analyst now, all he (they) said was Rodgers should not be in same category as Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Aikman, Bradshaw, etc. Doesn't mean Rodgers is not a flat-out hall of famer. Similar to who I believe was the most talented QB ever, Dan Marino (if you know, you know).

[@PJones-ke9ko]

But that wasn’t the question though he went left field comparing other quarterbacks to Rodger’s

[@Rickane503]

Shady straight up said Rodger underachieved when the guy plays the toughest position and won a superbowl plus has 4 MVPS. Shady has no room to talk about underachieving. Rodgers absolutely clears aikman btw.@@shep1582

[@Rickane503]

Shady Saying Rodgers underachieved is laughable considering Shady's entire career accolades are based on regular season individual stats. he has a grand total of 200 rush yards and 1 TD in the post season plus his 2 rings where he logged not a single stat in those playoff runs. Rodgers at least has regular season accolades that clear shady and a Superbowl ring that he greatly contributed too. @@shep1582

[@Dmarcel81]

Had to come back and watch this . lol JJ was in his fee-fees 😂

[@Drewburiimore]

Its funny how no one brings up that Aaron's opponent's scores 30+ in the playoffs what great quarterback is covering that every playoff run

[@bigmarkmja]

6 of rodgers playoff losses his D gave up 37-45 points. 3 losses he had game tying drives and never got the ball back. 9 losses.

[@marcosmuniz7094]

Shady speaking facts, but I can’t stand hearing Acho always in the back glazing Shady lol

[@saynomoremedia7463]

You got 4 MVPs you ain’t know underachiever that’s wild

[@BirdLives7]

1 SB appearance in a nearly 20 year career is an underachievement for someone of Rogers' ability.

[@Jayalexander63]

Shady himself was an underachiever

[@starlightmomiji-ph7mb]

@@Jayalexander63 LMAO, keep hating. You don't even know what you're talking about.

[@saynomoremedia7463]

@@BirdLives7 he won tho he’s a champion

[@BirdLives7]

​@@saynomoremedia7463Never said he wasn't. Saying for someone as gifted as him.l, he should have more than 1SB appearance

[@ajmango210]

Nobody likes to mention how Brady has had a top 10 defense like 20 times in his career and rodgers had that less that 5 times lmao

[@unionash1]

Stop if Brady had the refs

[@ssny20001]

Agree...so stop talking about the Jets !

[@RealStoriesFromDaPast]

Brady had top 5 defenses almost every year even when he went to the Bucs

[@RobertJohnson-zk1ye]

That's false

[@silvergold2140]

Love how Shandy puts the smack down on James Jones, over Aaron Rodgers. and Shady is right on everyone

[@corning1]

Thank you shady! Even a broken clock can be right at times.

[@DerQuanDoucett]

By his logic then he shouldn’t meat ride Josh Allen as much as he do

[@zackhurwitz9441]

​@@DerQuanDoucettor Lamar

[@DerQuanDoucett]

@@zackhurwitz9441 nah even James don’t meat ride Lamar as hard as shady meat ride Josh Allen

[@alwaysamused979]

AR is totally NOT on the same level with Brady, Mahomes, Montana. I want to see him play just for it to finally be proven. Thank you, Joy and Shady, for speaking truth..

[@liljewels15]

Yeah, cause as amazing Aaron Rodgers is he has not put himself enough higher to be up with those guys. Those guys have did more accolades. than Aaron has done the MVPs don’t matter to a fan base, if no championships have been brought in with those MVPs, he only won once and that’s not enough plus Green Bay has only won two Super Bowls within the last last 30+ years from Brett Favre to err so the fact that Aaron didn’t win more and he’s been to multiple conference championship and has not won any of the last what he’s been just says a lot

[@KevonDaDon]

It’s krazy Rodgers not on Mahomes level because Mahomes modeled his entire game off his and Favres and he’s better than both 😂

[@Jay-ci4to]

Well in that case we gotta quit mentioning Dan Marino as one of the greats if that’s the case

[@thomasmcdonald7439]

We had 2 missing players in this conversation: Dan Marino- THE Most underachieving QB in the playoffs for his talent level (hence 0 rings). And then Big Ben. That man won a lot. Dispite being in the same conference as Brady, Manning, The Ravens, Etc. You can also throw Eli in there since he beat Brady 2x.

[@reginald2288]

Arod cant hold Mahomes jock strap but he does throw a prettier ball😂

[@garyridgeway3770]

He does genuinely he’s a better talent if you watch the highlights and film however like Brady he doesn’t win enough to be better than Mahomes

[@blackanimelover18]

He's a better QB than Mahomes.

[@BirdLives7]

​@@blackanimelover18Rogers was a great QB but he's not touching Mahomes. Mahomes is pretty much Rogers if he got better in the playoffs instead of worse.

[@Jayalexander63]

Mahomes getting carried to SBs by his defenses lol…. Give Rodgers that Chiefs defense this year and he winning SBs too

[@alexandermitrell1609]

@@Jayalexander631st year that Mahomes had a great defense and now he wins because of it?😂 The previous super bowls were won by the offense

[@LAvision]

Get him Shady 💯. You could argue Eli Manning had a better career.

[@moving9071]

You could, but you'd be wrong.

[@hiteshsharma-u7l]

yo momma should check you into a hospital

[@Dozjah]

Acho is top 5 corny behind 1. Nyyear 2. Nick Cannon 3. Bow Wow 4. Brandon Marshall 5. Acho

[@lsjmartin6220]

Just get ready for jets playoff drought to continue 😂

[@th1s1guysays1]

The favoritism on this show is CRAZY. If he was so good, he wouldn’t have left Packers. The Niners BULLY Aaron STOP IT! But James GLADLY disrespect Brock Purdy. This guy is a joke.

[@KCShox]

Aaron Rodgers isn't going to maximize his potential unless the Jets overhaul their offensive line. If they do, Aaron will be a top 10 QB as usual.

[@MrShon-40]

SHUT UP SHADY... The question is do you believe in Rogers? Not compare hom to this or that QB...🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Tonyrole]

Even I have to admit almost everytime they got to the playoffs you could have easily blamed those loses on Defense or Special Teams.

[@nassturner-pd4of]

Dude every loss he dropped 44 and still lose on a torn calf in Seattle they let him down in San Francisco they let him down at home against Brady let him down

[@Tonyrole]

@@nassturner-pd4of agreed I remember San Fran winning cuz defense let RBs run for 300+ yards and the other time Special Teams gave away 14 points alone

[@user-wd7ue1wd6r]

When bozos like shady has more rings than aaron without even stepping onto field, i dont know if i can undermine importance of good all around team.

[@johnnybuchananjr9344]

Shady has more rings than you so who the cares what you think

[@whenthemaskfalls8591]

@@johnnybuchananjr9344 He also has as many snaps played in the Super Bowl as him though....

[@salvatoreregalbuto5444]

@@whenthemaskfalls8591but he’s top 20 all time in scrimmage yards and a top 20 back all time he can talk his stuff

[@IsraeliteTre]

Bozo is crazy he was literally the top back in the 10s statically speaking

[@BirdLives7]

Fair point but Rogers also failed to show up on many occasions when his te needed him to make crucial plays in the playoffs

[@charmainebacot8222]

I'm not an Aaron Rodgers fan either but I really need them to keep that same energy when they're hyping up Josh Allen. Everytime they talk about that dude like he done won multiple championships, I be like "Huh"?🤔

[@abirodriguez2347]

It’s funny how a lot of people always say Brady has 7 and act like it was all him, like he was the only reason the teams he was on won all those superbowls. They never mention all the great and top 10 defenses he had on all of those Super Bowl winning teams. Football is the ultimate team sport.

[@Diadontis]

Lifelong Packer fan.. Rodgers would get nervous every 4th quarter of every playoff game besides one year. He threw teammates under the bus and gave rookie WRs the yips most every year. Biggest choke artist in sports history.

[@whenthemaskfalls8591]

Come on, man. sports history??? The Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row. Keeping it to QBs, Romo, McNabb, Matt Ryan, Marino all bigger chokers than Rodgers. What about Harden's, Barkley's, Ewing's playoff failures? There are numerous ringless athletes who repeatedly came up short in the playoffs to say sports history.

[@Dipset415]

@@whenthemaskfalls8591bra he’s not a packers fan😭

[@blackanimelover18]

You're lying through your teeth. Remember the Cardinals game? Dude completed a 4th and 20 and then threw a hail mary to tie the game.

[@BirdLives7]

​@@blackanimelover18was that the Cardinals playoff game where he didn't see a rush a kicked a ball right to a defender for a fumble 6?

[@Diadontis]

@@BirdLives7 that's the one

[@OGfly87]

4xMVP - it takes a !TEAM! to win a superbowl!! He does his part - he dont play defense!!

[@jamarthompson1350]

Russell Wilson threw 4 picks in a game and he lost like arod deserves some blame

[@DerQuanDoucett]

@@jamarthompson1350Russ threw 4 picks and won the game 😂😂

[@DerQuanDoucett]

@@jamarthompson1350some yes I agree

[@johnathanjones2886]

😮 what about that onside kick that would have sealed the game though don’t forget that play

[@jamarthompson1350]

@@johnathanjones2886 arod went 19-34 and 2 picks like he didn’t have a good game

[@vangfamily3265]

Shady is so fake, great on the field but not on tv.

[@Jaymitch3]

Mecole just dissed the jets crazy and even told you the real about Aaron Rodgers!! Rodgers and Peyton manning are both all time great players!! Point blank period

[@HockeyFan102]

He wasn’t talking about Rodgers bruh 🤦‍♂️

[@Jaymitch3]

@@HockeyFan102 yes he did!!!!

[@HockeyFan102]

@@Jaymitch3 where is the proof? Show me the proof of him directly talking about a rod. Clearly you’re a hater and full of made up stories

[@BirdLives7]

​@@Jaymitch3He spoke about the Jets being spineless to Aaron. He didn't say anything about Aaron himself

[@Jaymitch3]

@@BirdLives7 yes he did are you hard of hearing or lack comprehension skills?

[@BigDave113100]

Anyone who can watch the game and understand it can see Rodgers and Marino belong in the conversation of greats. SMH

[@BirdLives7]

He's def a great. But will always be second tier after Brady and Mahomes imo

[@SEHLENREISE]

hillarious how acho is backing 2-5 on this one with funny side-notes

[@Panch323]

Sorry the jets haven’t had an all time QB in a long time!!! But yes we got Aron at 40 lol but when we do make the playoffs the same way you guys agreed the Baltimore ravens were going to beat the chiefs chiefs!!!!!! 😮 / last Smile . Mad shade at NY but all good 👍 let’s GO Aron and the jets.

[@PeterDeMarco]

Man anyone who believes any sentence that involves "Aaron Rodgers" or "The Jets", I got a deep discount on a bridge I need to talk to you about...

[@jeanfourcade]

Praise James Jones for his loyalty. That said, a 40 yo A-Rod coming off a torn achilles, and 12-month inactivity? That will be the big question mark come September.

[@robmiller2221]

Rodgers is a choker He’s not Brady He’s not Mahomes He’s not Montana Rings Rings Rings & Mahomes will grab 3 more MVPs in his career.

[@princecheck11]

so bc he not those three means what? a lot of qbs not them

[@lightsome93]

I don’t doubt what JJ’s saying but when the lights get bright Rodgers seems to need sunglasses, immediately.

[@harrisonkotlarek5934]

Coming from a packers fan NEVER doubt 12. I understand A-Rod is coming off a major injury but I believe in him and hope nothing but the best for him!!

[@PaulaCrawford-eo2eb]

Shady is so right! I like Rodgers but he deserves the same criticism as Dak and Russ

[@hzh0847]

Shady on point and so is jj if that makes sense but in this case that’s why NO ONE should dawg Lamar for having multiple and 0 rings YET with JJ saying “seen with their eyes…” apply the same logic with some ring less folk not all and rodgers is an all timer but let’s not sit here and say he’s in the all time qb Rushmore

[@kevinblack4357]

And Acho is Shady' s hype man

[@marcosmuniz7094]

Acho stays glazing Shady lol

[@bkeny4798]

One thing i can say about james jones is that he's a true friend to arod. He stays upping him and he will argue about his greatness and still believes in him 💪🏼

[@jimrichardson3078]

Look at the money players they've put around Rodgers and all they've gotten for it are his individual (MVP) awards. All those players and in a weak division with just one Superbowl win in 19 years? Eli's got 2 s/b's in less than 12 years!?! Look at quarterbacks NOT in the HOF and truly try to justify calling Rodgers one of the greatest? Says he's gonna play 3 or 4 more years but hasn't shown he can play one full year at a high level

[@PaulaCrawford-eo2eb]

James Jones love him some Aaron Rodgers. When he doesn’t do well, I want to hear the same energy about him like you do Dak and Russell

[@JoystickJa]

Underachieving is facts: Elite QBs and NBA Franchise Players are judged by championships

[@vickdamonejr6630]

Put Drew Bree’s in the same conversation

[@BirdLives7]

Drew brees isn't as talented as Rogers.

[@jring383]

Shady: "He doesnt win" Rodgers has the 7th most career wins in NFL history if youre a believer in QB wins/losses. A SB MVP and 4x reg season MVP. The best TD:INT ratio in NFL history. Shady pretending he doesnt understand that individual talent isnt enough to win Championships. Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Randy Moss, Dan Marino, Larry Fitz, Ladanian Tomlinson. The list goes on and on. Mount Rushmore players at thier positions without a ring. Rodgers has 1 and was a failed onside recovery away from a 2nd SB appearance.

[@calinator51]

Shady is absolutely right here. 4 MVPs blah blah. He's a regular season killer but when it counts he folds like Peyton did. Brady, Mahomes, and Montana shined when it mattered. In Rodgers 4 MVP seasons his combined playoff record is 2-4. If he is the greatest player in the league he should be shining in the playoffs.

[@josephpanella2726]

I don't remember the last year Rodgers played in GB, but before that he had 1 top 10 defense in his career. That year he won the SB. If you look at Tom Brady's entire career in in NE, he had the number 1 defense in the NFL over that period.

[@devinware1064]

Shady is wrong,the most underachieving QB of all time by far has to be Ben Rothlisburger. As a Steelers fan it hurts to say but its true.

[@forgivereem9562]

I am a jets fan and I am tired of hearing the same things over and over again

[@DEvans843]

Joy, keep that same energy with the Cowboys

[@yahcrack]

McNabb, Romo, Rodgers, Marino might be the most underachieving QB’s ever

[@kelleywilson141]

Favre only has 1 ring. Team game. Rodgers only had 1 top 10 defense and won the superbowl. Brady had a top 10 defense every year it seemed like.

[@brennanloder]

Shady is on point. This is why they don’t talk about MY favorite Josh Allen. He’s talented but even tho he’s my favorite he hasn’t won yet so yeah there’s LEVELS. It’s disrespectful? Whaaaaaattt???? James is flexing hard asf

[@playerx2006]

Rodgers was SUPPOSED to be how Mahomes was, but didn't work out. And Rodgers had more talent.

[@kents1911]

Shady ain't lying

[@kodymcmillan5217]

Why do they let Joy talk about football? Let alone sports.

[@dsstewbaby9]

Wrong 👈🏽

[@dantebrante3784]

SHADY IS A CLOWN 🤡 if Brady and Rodgers switched careers, Rodgers has 10 rings and Brady gets benched by year 4

[@axon117]

Rodgers is an all time great qb objectively speaking.

[@michaeltrim6152]

Aaron Rodgers is the Vince Carter of the NFL!!! He severely underachieved to be the talent he is!!!

[@joshuamullins3882]

Was Bill Russell more talented than Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan? Bill has the most rings but Michael Jordan is the goat with less rings

[@axon117]

It’s the new sports media, ever since Brady did what he did they’ve been on the SB=individual greatness narrative it seems.

[@Jay_Wolfe]

The Packers underachieved. Rodgers won multiple MVP’s. He did not underachieve.

[@Ohmug3nW3apon13]

Ppl are saying like football isn’t an ultimate team sport.. I guess Rodger couldn’t recover that onside kick in 2014 against Seattle..

[@shanerasberry510]

“1 2 3 4 5 here’s your jacket!! Nuff said

[@kwoylee5617]

"I don't want to talk about ARod all the time". PREACH Shady! I am so sick of that dude and his monstrous ego. The fact that Rodgers was grandstanding all last season on TV - when he didn't even play - ugh. Go away, Aaron.