Sh. Saleh Aal Al Shaykh's Definitive Dismantling Of La Madhabi Fiqh!

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[@ZaynElAbideen]

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[@Abu_Abdullah790]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@ZaynElAbideen]

وإياكم

[@sameeralamynwa]

Brother, your channel is so much dedicated to critiquing those who don't associate themselves with a single madhab. However don't you think you need to address the issues of blind taqleed and taqleed e shakhsi? It would help expose the severe pitfalls of uncritically following a single school of thought. Your selective criticism reeks of hypocrisy, nullifies your arguments, and exposes your lack of intellectual honesty.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

No, it's dedicated to critiquing those who obligate Ijtihad for the laymen. As for not associating with a Madhab, we have already clarified multiple times that this is not Wajib, it isn't our fault La Madhabis do not have the capacity to differentiate between Tamaddhub and Taqlid. Rather if someone blind follows the local Mufti, this is enough. The issue is when someone claims to learn Fiqh without returning to one of the four Madhahib, it's like a chef trying to cut without a knife. As for Taqlid in generality, this is Wajib by Ijma for those incapable of Ijtihad and there is no issue in doing so. My criticism isn't selective because I completely disagree with your incorrect stance on this issue, openly reject it and call against it. Rather, your comment reeks of hastiness and a baseless emotionally fueled rhetoric, watch our videos to learn of our stance. Your comment also reeks of general ignorance about Taqlid, as you add an illogical description to it with the word 'Blind', rather Taqlid by definition is 'blind', it is following without looking at the evidence and it is Wajib for the one incapable of Ijtihad due to his inability, this has been clarified by a number of Mashayikh like Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen and the Usuliyyeen in general. Finally, 'Taqleed E Shaksi', I assume you mean making Taqlid of a single Madhab in every ruling, then I say it is permissible since there is nothing to prohibit or limit the general obligation of Taqlid for the laymen and that they may follow a scholar who is qualified for giving out Fatawa. Whether they choose to follow a single Madhab or a Mufti they usually ask or they wish to follow different Muftis in unrelated and separate issues, all of this is permissible and they have a choice, what is important is Taqlid. As for the student, then just as Shaykh Saleh above outlines, there is no way today for a student to gain strength in Fiqh except through one of the four Madhahib.

[@Shinqeetee]

Many shaykhs who talk against blind taqleed or only talking against blind taqleed for those who taqleed is haram for. When Shaykh Al Albani was asked about taqleed for everyone and someone accusing him of believing of such he replied “May Allah forgive you if you thought If I believed a french man who just converted should do ijtihaad.” In reality laymen do taqleed and cannot figure out such rulings themselves if you say otherwise your also saying reverts shouldn’t just ask for answers, rather they should do ijtihaad and find the evidences for such. It is also more probable that you yourself are doing taqleed to, can you grade hadiths? Probably not, but you are doing taqleed of someone who tells you this is an authentic hadith. الله المستعان

[@phoenixknight8837]

JazakAllahu khayran.

[@DAWAHTIME1]

Astaghfirullah misguiding people. " except thru a madhabi book" what ignorance. This can only happen if the 4 Mazhabs "completed" the Deen. Which they did NOT. What were people doing before these mazhabs were born?? And is Haq limited to 4 of them?? What about matters in which none of the 4 follow Shariah.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

Watch the reasoning of the Shaykh and it seems you should also have no problem watching his entire lecture since you should at least know Arabic if you wish to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah (both of which are in clear Arabic) directly. He goes through the time before the 4 Madhahib, how Fiqh was studied and how it developed, these misconceptions often arise from being ignorant of the way the science of Fiqh developed. The link and tafreegh is in the description

[@DAWAHTIME1]

@ZaynElAbideen @ZaynElAbideen no one advocates studying and deriving their own fiqh from Wahi. This is straw manning. Nor am I advocating not studying fiqh. But Haq is not limited to the 4 mazhabs nor is it limited to any one of them. I am also surprised you say taqleed e shaksi is allowed. Who allowed it?? To make it clear even the imams you hold ultra sacred about which the above Sheikh is saying there is no understanding without them did NOT advocate it. So stop calling people to it

[@ZaynElAbideen]

I never implied Istinbat Al Ahkam, merely said you should at least know Arabic enough to understand the complete lecture if you deem yourself to be able to 'follow' the Qur'an and Sunnah directly without blind following a Mujtahid but if you deny the 4 Madhahib, what other means do you have? Dreams? So in reality, it is not me applying a strawman, it's you brother And the four Madhaib did actually explicitly obligated Taqlid on the non Mujtahideen. There are even reports from some of the four Imams themselves. Such as this one, قال أحمد رحمه اللَّه في رواية أبي الحارث: لا يجوز الاختيار إلا لرجل عالم بالكتاب والسنة ممن إذا ورد عليه أمر نظر الأمور وشبهها بالكتاب والسنة. [العدة ٣/ ١١٣٦، المسودة ٢/ ٦٤٣] Imam Ahmad said: It is not permissible to choose [between opinions] except for a person who is an *Alim of the Qur'an and Sunnah*, that when a matter arises, he is someone who looks into the matters and likens them to the Qur'an and Sunnah. And this one from Malik, Imam Malik ١٨٩٧ - وَذَكَرَ ابْنُ مُزَيْنٍ، عَنْ عِيسَى بْنِ دِينَارٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ مَالِكٍ، قَالَ: «لَيْسَ كُلَّمَا قَالَ رَجُلٌ قَوْلًا وَإِنْ كَانَ لَهُ فَضْلٌ يُتَّبَعُ عَليْهِ» يَقُولُ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ: {الَّذِينَ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقَوْلَ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ أَحْسَنَه} [الزمر: ١٨] فَإِنْ قَالَ: قِصَرِي وَقِلَّةُ عِلْمِي يَحْمِلُنِي عَلَى التَّقْلِيدِ، قِيلَ لَهُ: **أَمَّا مَنْ قَلَّدَ فِيمَا يَنْزِلُ بِهِ مِنْ أَحْكَامِ الشَّرِيعَةِ عَالِمًا بِمَا يَتَّفِقُ لَهُ عَلَى عِلْمِهِ فَيُصْدِرُ فِي ذَلِكَ عَمَّا يُخْزِهِ به فَمَعْذُورٌ؛ لِأَنَّهُ قَدْ أَتَى بِمَا عَلَيْه وَأَدَّى مَا لَزِمَهُ فِيمَا نَزَلَ بِهِ لِجَهْلِه وَلَا بُدُّ لَهُ مِنْ تَقْلِيدِ عَالِمِهِ فِيمَا جَهِلَ؛ لِإِجْمَاعِ الْمُسْلِمِينَ أَنَّ الْمَكْفوفَ يُقَلِّدُ مَنْ يَثِقُ بِخَبَرِهِ فِي الْقِبلَة؛ لِأَنَّهُ لَا يَقْدِرُ عَلَى أَكْثَرَ مِنْ ذَلِك** وَلَكِنْ مَنْ كَانَتْ هَذِهِ حَالُهُ هَلْ تجُوزُ لَهُ الْفَتْوَى فِي شَرَائِعِ دِينِ اللَّهِ؟ فَيَحْمِلُ غَيْرَهُ عَلَى إِبَاحَةِ الْفُرُوجِ وَإِراقَةِ الدِّمَاءِ وَاسْتِرْقَاقِ الرِّقَابِ وَإِزَالَةِ الْأَمْلَاكِ وَتَصْيِيرِهَا إِلَى غَيْرِ مَنْ كَانَتْ فِي يَدِهِ بِقَوْلٍ لَا يُعْرَفُ صِحَّتُه وَلَا قَامَ لَهُ الدَّلِيلُ عَلَيْهِ، وَهُوَ مُقِرٌّ أَنَّ قَائِلَهُ يُخْطِئُ وَيُصِيبُ وَأنّ مُخالِفَهُ فِي ذَلِكَ رُبَّمَا كَانَ الْمُصِيبَ فِيمَا خَالَفَهُ فِيهِ، فَإِنْ أَجَازَ الْفَتْوَى لِمَنْ جَهِلَ الْأَصْلَ وَالْمَعْنَى لِحِفْظِهِ الْفُرُوعَ لَزِمَهُ أَنْ يُجِيزَهُ لِلْعَامَّةِ وكَفَى بِهذَا جَهْلًا وَرَدًّا لِلْقُرْآنِ قَالَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وجَلَّ: {وَلَا تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَك بِهِ عِلْمٌ} [الإسراء: ٣٦] وَقَالَ: {أَتَقُولُونَ عَلَى اللَّهِ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ} [الأعراف: ٢٨] وَقَدْ أَجْمَعَ الْعُلَمَاءُ عَلَى أَنَّ مَا لَمْ يُتَبَيَنْ وَلَمْ ⦗٩٩٦⦘ يُسْتَيْقَنْ فَلَيْسَ بِعِلْمٍ وَإِنَمَا هُوَ ظَنٌّ وَالظَّنُّ لَا يُغني مِنَ الْحَقِّ شَيْئًا، وَقَدْ مَضَى فِي هَذَا الْبَابِ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسلَّمَ -------- ص995 - كتاب جامع بيان العلم وفضله - باب فساد التقليد ونفيه والفرق بين التقليد والاتباع قد ذم الله تبارك وتعالى التقليد في غير موضع من كتابه فقال اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبانهم أربابا من دون الله وروي عن حذيفة وغيره قال لم يعبدوهم من دون الله ولكن أحلوا لهم وحرموا عليهم فاتبعوهم - المكتبة الشاملة In the highlighted part, the Imam explicitly says, As for someone who follows (i.e., imitates) a scholar in matters of Islamic rulings that arise and relies on the scholar's knowledge to issue judgments based on it, such a person is excused. This is because they have fulfilled their duty and discharged their obligation concerning the situation they faced due to their ignorance. It is necessary for them to follow (i.e., imitate) a scholar in matters they are ignorant of, as there is consensus among Muslims that a blind person relies on someone they trust to determine the direction of the Qibla. This is because they are incapable of doing more than that. This is an explicit and direct Nass from Imam Malik himself not just permitting Taqlid but obligating it. مع السلامة

[@DAWAHTIME1]

@ZaynElAbideen @ZaynElAbideen strawmanning again, misunderstand completely. No one advocates direct istinbat/ijtihad. Salafis don't do it. Salafis don't deny any as you are wrongly implying. In fact the opposite they accept all and say to follow the ruling closest to Quran and Sunnah whichever it is. If it is from 1,2 or all of them or none of them. And a Scholar will inform a questioner not that laymen will derive their own ruling

[@ZaynElAbideen]

I'm guessing you mean Iltizam Bi Madhab Muayyan by 'Taqleed e shaksi' It's not obligatory but there's no strong argument to say it is invalid, since it's upon the claimant against it to bring arguments to prove that the layman is not allowed to follow a Mufti he likes and must make Taqlid of two or three different Muftis in seperate issues

[@golamrabby2002]

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[@Al-Ṭālib1]

جزاك الله خيرا

[@Talibuilm3]

May Allah reward you

[@ZaynElAbideen]

And may He reward you

[@huzaifa5371]

جزاك الله خيرا can i re upload this video somewhere else?

[@ZaynElAbideen]

We don't mind if the entire video is posted

[@محمد-س3ك9ج]

السلام عليكم For those who have listened to this lecture by the Shaykh, what were some of the topics he covered? Asking since i want to listen to it soon in sha Allah

[@ZaynElAbideen]

I added the Tafrigh for the entire lecture to the description, you may check it out In Sha Allah

[@punk2142]

@@ZaynElAbideen السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته يا اخي could you summarize it or translate it in English ? جزاك الله خيرا

[@بنمحمد-ه4ت]

وعليك السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

[@yassinhassan336]

Is this from the recent dawrah with various mashayikh?

[@ZaynElAbideen]

Yes, the link to the original Muhadharah is available in the description along with the Tafrigh for it

[@SyedabuAsar]

السلام عليكم How do you apply the subtitiles in english to this videos?

[@ZaynElAbideen]

By editing them in

[@SyedabuAsar]

Auto captions or you write these subtitiles?

[@ZaynElAbideen]

I write them, auto captioning would give you disastrous translation

[@SyedabuAsar]

​@@ZaynElAbideen👍

[@WaqasAli-ct7ly]

What is your opinion on always sticking to every point of a madhab even if the evidences are against that specific point?

[@ZaynElAbideen]

If the person knows it's against the evidence, he obviously does not follow the Madhab there but this is only imaginable for the Mujtahid even if in just one area of Fiqhi issues As for the Muqallid, he doesn't have this ability and making Taqlid of his Madhab in everything is fine, he may choose to follow other Madhaib in unrelated issues and that's fine as well since there's no obligation on following one specific Madhab in everything although this is permissible, what's important is the person makes Taqlid and does not engage in Ijtihad without its tools

[@AyubAbdirahmanDaher]

@@ZaynElAbideen i removed my messages, gonna research the affair and ask people of knowledge إن شاء الله

[@AyubAbdirahmanDaher]

@@ZaynElAbideen i couldnt find the source for uthaymeen if possible can you link it, excuse me for not getting the source myself. Im curious about it as i havent changed my stance that this opinion is shadh due to the clear ahaadith and ive been curious on what the ulama say on the one who gets married without a wali out of ignorance

[@ZaynElAbideen]

Send me an email, I can attach the picture In Sha Allah

[@s.abidali2444]

جزاكم الله خيرا ملكة فقهية Needs to translated more appropriately like : Jurisprudential Competence or Jurisprudential Aptitude or Jurisprudential proficiency.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

وإياكم Mastery refers to proficiency and translations only do a general job of giving out the actual meaning, complete and precise definitions would require much more detail and short clips are not suitable for that. I do think it could have been translated in a better manner than "mastery 'over' Fiqh", but I try to avoid changing the Arabic terminologies into their English translations in order to not distance the people from being familiar with the source and the actual Istilah, usually I give the translation once within parenthesis and then just use the actual word for the person to remember what that word or Arabic terminology generally refers to. Although, I thank you for your zealousness and integrity, may Allah reward you with good.

[@tabsheeransari6280]

Can a hanafi layman follow the opinion of another madhab in issue like hurmat musaharat(touching mahram with lust)....As its very strict in hanafi madhab ....and I'm suffering from severe waswas.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

Ask a Mufti and ignore waswaas

[@khamzatisrailov3428]

Assalamu aleykum wa rahmatullah, it is still not wajib follow a madhab, Muhammad Sultan al-Ma'sumi wrote a risala about this and Shaykh al-Albani used to teach it

[@ZaynElAbideen]

No one said it is, although Shaykh Al Albani himself affirmed that there is no other way to understand the Qur'an and Sunnah today except through the Madhahib So although, generally, it's not obligatory and a person may blind follow the local scholars, if he wishes to be a student of knowledge, he has no choice but to study through a Madhab if he wishes to gain strength in Fiqh Additionally, a science should be taken from its people, Shaykh Al Albani was an expert in the field of Hadith while there are those who are better at Fiqh than him, it isn't befitting for us to leave the statements of the Fuqaha in issues of Fiqh for his statements or stances It's like me trying to learn Ulum Al Qur'an from a person who only excels in Arabic, although having a good understanding of the language is a major part of understanding the Qur'an, it's not sufficient to just have that

[@studentofknowledge3158]

Original video link please

[@ZaynElAbideen]

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[@studentofknowledge3158]

Is he from ulamma najad ​@@ZaynElAbideen

[@ZaynElAbideen]

Yes

[@studentofknowledge3158]

@@ZaynElAbideen jazakallah khair please upload more from this duroos he also said we must be upon mazhab of country

[@spawnnpwn4166]

What about Ahlul Hadith in India? Is it permissible to he a muqallid of senior Ahlul Hadith Ulama?

[@ZaynElAbideen]

The Shaykh clarifies that firmness in Fiqh without the Madhahib is basically non-existent and mastery in Fiqh cannot be found without returning to Fiqhi Mutun within the video and explicitly mentions why merely reading explanations of Ahadith is not enough Merely calling oneself 'Ahlul Hadith', being senior in age and having Athari Aqidah wouldn't make someone a Faqih, their seniority and speciality is accepted and respected which is Hadith, but every science is taken from its people, so Fiqh should be taken from the Fuqaha

[@spawnnpwn4166]

@ZaynElAbideen But the Ulama over here do read books of Fiqh, without adhering to a specific madhhab.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

​​@@spawnnpwn4166 Reading a Madhab or multiple books of various Madhahib isn't enough either, it requires decades of systematic study and practice and mastering one Madhab, it's Usul, Qawaid and getting a good hold over Fiqh along with the evidence eventually, I added some more points in the initial reply, maybe you should read it again

[@muslimah_Al_hindy]

May Allah save the youth who is watching this channel. Please please learn your deen from the scholars, lest you fall short into such pits like the owner of channel. I seek the refuge of Allah from that. Alhamdulillah for understanding the deen upon the understanding of our righteous precessdors. We know what the shyakhs stance is, as we study from their students who study with them since years and years... and so we are aware of the tricks these guys want to spread to put the salafi/ahlul hadith youth's creed in danger. May Allah save me and other muslims from taking the knowledge of deen from here. Aameen Ya Rabb.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

In that case sister, please watch the original Muhadharah of the Shaykh (link in the description, there's also a transcription provided) yourself and see for yourself what his stance is, no need to rely on my sayings or even translations As for students, then the student of Abu Hanifah, Abu Muti' was called a Kaddhab and anything he related alone from his Shaykh (Abu Hanifah) is not reliable. So taking from a student doesn't necessarily necessitate you are following the Manhaj of his Shaykh Many Sururis and Qutbis have studied under the Mashayikh like Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen, yet their statements and stances don't necessarily reflect those of their Mashayikh. بارك الله فيكم

[@mhmd-r2n]

The video title can cause Fitnah. I don't know what you're exactly dismantling, but there are numerous Fatawa given by Salafi scholars, the likes of Ibn Baz, Ibn Uthaymeen, Al-Albani and others Rahimahumullah that clearly agree on the lack of obligation of following a Madhab. In fact, even in the video, Sheikh Salih Aal Ash-Sheikh gave reasons why to follow a Madhab; there is benefits to it, but you never proved the falsehood in your title of disproving the La Madhabi Fiqhi position, more specifically proving that its impermissible not to follow a Madhab. I mean the main reason I'm really commenting here is if you really are following these Mashayyikh, then make your position clear instead of dressing up as a Salafi who follows them, but in reality is extremist when it comes to following Madhahib and whatnot by making them obligatory. In fact, this issue is so problematic, Sheikh Al-Albani Rahimahullah did Jarh on Noorul Deen Itr just for being extreme to his Madhab.

[@ZaynElAbideen]

Watch the last 20 seconds of the video "There is no way towards Fiqh except through a teacher and a book from one of the four Madhaib.", roughly quoting the Shaykh, you may refer to the exact words of the Shaykh within the video. Furthermore, the Shaykh explicitly targets just going to Ahadeeth and studying Fiqh directly through them and why it would not work. We are not implying or dressing up as anything, this channel purely translates clips and provides original links whenever needed or asked, if the person has an issue with our translation or the clip, they can refer to the original video, refer to it, study it and make a refutation on us for it, we will welcome that with open hands. But making false accusations gets no one anywhere. Finally, no where was it mentioned that following a Madhab is obligatory, rather it is the only means towards studying Fiqh today, if there was another Madhab or chain back to the Fiqh of the Salaf, that would have been accepted with open hands as well but any other Madhab like Ath Thawri's or Al Awzai's went extinct. And on this even Shaykh Al Albani (even though we disagree with his general methodology in Fiqh) agrees with us, he has an explicit statement in which he makes it clear that there is no way towards properly understanding the Qur'an and Sunnah except through the Madhahib.

[@WaqasAli-ct7ly]

This brother went from Hanbali to Hanafi

[@platinum2117]

Based

[@CourtOfKnowledge]

He went from a great madhab of Ahlus Sunnah to a great madhab of Ahlus Sunnah

[@Justmuslim539]

Whats ur point?

[@mhmd-r2n]

Many Hanafi scholars are deviants for the record, being deobandi, barelvi or whatever and especially when it comes to this matter of Taqlid.