Shabir Ally: "Quran Is Not Preserved!" Ft Mohammad Hijab, Yasir Qadhi, Uthman ibn Farooq

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Clips from a video in which Shabir Ally says that 'word for word' preservation of the Quran has always been known to be untrue, interspersed with clips of well-known Muslims claiming 'word for word' preservation since the time of Muhammad
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@HappyCamper84
@HappyCamper84 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen more non muslims online that know more about islam than most muslims. Thanks to the people like the ones who run this channel.
@alonzoharris6730
@alonzoharris6730 2 жыл бұрын
Hatun believes in three gods.
@fromjulian
@fromjulian 2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 Deflection.
@neilsavage8915
@neilsavage8915 2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 Does Polly want a treat 😁
@ankur7773
@ankur7773 2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 😁😁
@enockt6218
@enockt6218 2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
@setfreebythetruth-knowtrut3791
@setfreebythetruth-knowtrut3791 2 жыл бұрын
"the standard narrative has holes in it"
@Asantewarrior
@Asantewarrior 2 ай бұрын
say it with me - SIN
@sovl2659
@sovl2659 9 күн бұрын
​@@Asantewarrior Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) Has MASSIVE canyons in it. 😊
@ulka7777
@ulka7777 2 жыл бұрын
When Quran is gone, Islam doesn't have anything left. Why is Shabir still a Muslim?
@asylum5781
@asylum5781 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the original video lmao. This channel removed a lot of the original and cherry picked in a way that promotes their agenda
@ulka7777
@ulka7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@asylum5781 Which agenda? That Quran is not preserved dot by dot, letter by letter, sound by sound? Does he later contradict himself and say it is preserved dot by dot?
@thequransarecorruptedwarsh3238
@thequransarecorruptedwarsh3238 2 жыл бұрын
@@asylum5781 you need to realise that you have been lied to yasir qadhi - "there are HOLES in the narrative".
@20july1944
@20july1944 2 жыл бұрын
I give Shabir Ally a gold star for intellectual honesty here -- sadly rare among Moslems
@mamansurahman2135
@mamansurahman2135 2 жыл бұрын
Shabbir Aly is like the others, repeatedly telling the same lie about the Quran before finally being forced to admit it.
@20july1944
@20july1944 2 жыл бұрын
@@mamansurahman2135 Most of his verminous co-religionists won't admit, however.
@joshuacooper9946
@joshuacooper9946 2 жыл бұрын
It’s only because he knows that we know and there’s no point even trying to use taqiyya at this point.
@20july1944
@20july1944 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacooper9946 I disagree: he has the primary goal of "preaching to the masjid" and keeping the current Moslems deluded. There is a native constituency who will never think critically, and in being even somewhat honest he puts that at risk.
@rubenalijohn7716
@rubenalijohn7716 2 жыл бұрын
They have 37. Different. Korans. If. Our bible is different. And currupt. The good news is long as Jesus name in it. It's holy. And. Good to except. We don't worship Satan. He s killer. Who works in Muslim radicals. Heart. And mine to kill there own Muslim bro. And sis and the human race. Our god is all about love. In our holy bible. We Christian don't kill innocent people but to love them. And bring them to put loveing. God all mighty. In there. Hearts Amen
@Forgoodandnotthebad
@Forgoodandnotthebad 2 жыл бұрын
No, the quarn is not preserved nor from God... It was Muhammad who copied some of it from the Bible, torah and other books and also made up his own verses.....
@RuggedChristian
@RuggedChristian 2 жыл бұрын
Without Lies Islam Dies!
@Albai2390
@Albai2390 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Straight at you
@bestshorts3775
@bestshorts3775 21 сағат бұрын
People are accepting Islam every day. So what are you talking about 😂
@RuggedChristian
@RuggedChristian 21 сағат бұрын
@bestshorts3775 (Revealations 12:9) And the great dragon was cast out that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world.
@bestshorts3775
@bestshorts3775 7 сағат бұрын
@@RuggedChristian Brother, the Qur’an mentions that the sun has an orbit. Honestly, who could have known this 1,400 years ago except the One who created it? Brother, I urge you to think for yourself. Don’t blindly follow anyone. Ask yourself these questions: Did Jesus actually claim to be God? Is Christianity truly the path to truth? Why is Islam entering every household? These questions will lead you to research, and if you approach this with an open mind, listening to no one but your own reason, In shaa Allah, you will find the truth. I sincerely hope that we meet in paradise. The choice to choose is yours!
@bestshorts3775
@bestshorts3775 7 сағат бұрын
@@RuggedChristian Brother, the Qur’an mentions that the sun has an orbit. Honestly, who could have known this 1,400 years ago except the One who created it? Brother, I urge you to think for yourself. Don’t blindly follow anyone. Ask yourself these questions: Did Jesus actually claim to be God? Is Christianity truly the path to truth? Why is Islam entering every household? These questions will lead you to research, and if you approach this with an open mind, listening to no one but your own reason, In shaa Allah, you will find the truth. I sincerely hope that we meet in paradise.
@solascriptura1536
@solascriptura1536 2 жыл бұрын
Garbage In, Garbage Out. We see it here everyday...
@elisabeth5285
@elisabeth5285 2 жыл бұрын
Jezus is slave from Allah, Aaron, Alonzo, Jezus prayed to Allah, Hello, we see them every day. 😂
@frost7490
@frost7490 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever is built on lies cannot last. The truth will live forever.
@nippymutt9018
@nippymutt9018 2 жыл бұрын
5:01 He says 'yes', but shakes his head no... That's non-verbal leakage, a strong indicator that he's being deceitful.
@Raziq.D
@Raziq.D Жыл бұрын
what?
@daimsaeed
@daimsaeed Жыл бұрын
Tge quran was revealed in 7 different dialects/modes of recitation which had slight differences between them but the meaning was intact. fact is since the standardisation from the uthman era, the Quran has been preserved, scientifically proven from the quran found in Birmingham UK, furthermore the text found in sana'a cant be verfied (atleast not yet) if it was i.e an actual Quran or a students works etc.
@waymilky442
@waymilky442 Жыл бұрын
He is South Asian you fool!
@yusufblessed22
@yusufblessed22 Жыл бұрын
He literally said yes with straight face
@DPforChristGod
@DPforChristGod Жыл бұрын
@@yusufblessed22 are you physically blind as well? (to add to your spiritual blindness)
@grapaux
@grapaux 2 жыл бұрын
Some Muslims died believing the qur'an has been preserved letter for letter and word for word. They sacrificed their life for the preservation of the quran not knowing it was a lie. Look at how they misled people. I'm saddened. thanks for the video.
@jaycee4544
@jaycee4544 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@Emmanuel-mv3tb
@Emmanuel-mv3tb 2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa half of the things you have listed for not believing in the bible are exclusively for the qutan. I say this because it is you guys that push those accusations on the books of others. We on the other hand have no issue with our earliest book being 200 yrs after Jesus ascended. You have to keep in mind, the doctrin of the church predates the compilation of the Bible. That already pokes a hole in your criticism, because we can see that from the earliest church fathers the trinitarian belief was present. The only reason for the council of nicea was to clamp down on heretical beliefs. What's more, your quran is also 'according to'. I mean, Muhammad didn't write it. He recited it to his followers, just as the disciples told the scribes what he witnessed (their accounts of Jesus' life). Your book comes from the followers of or Muhammad, and your whole faith rests on them transcribing everything for Muhammad perfectly, which as we can see, we have no surety of that. Even if they did, the first copy is still lost. Essentially what I am saying is that whatever criticism you have of the Bible, you'll more than likely shoot yourself in the foot because it can be applied to the quran.
@Emmanuel-mv3tb
@Emmanuel-mv3tb 2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa there are several scientific errors in the quran, the idea you dipping a flies wing into you food for a cure, or the fact that urine is sold in suadi Arabia due to guidance from either the quran or hadith. But that's besides the point. You guys have difficulty understanding what you choose not to understand. If you apply the fact that God is unlike anything we can imagine, then our belief is no longer implausible. In terms of the trinity, its a doctrine derived from what the disciples heard and understand, and then proceeded to teach to the followers of Christ after his ascension. They themselves baptised in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. You could not insert Muhammad and Allah's name into that phraseology simultaneously, if not it would be classed as shirk. If any religion is confusing its Islam. How can you follow a man that ignored some of his own teachings according to sahih hadith, that had relations with a child at the age of 54, that was aroused by the presence of women that weren't his wife, and would then go home to have intercourse with them as a response. Don't get me wrong, prophets can make mistakes, but in the bible they repented immediately for said mistakes. I have not seen mo do this
@Emmanuel-mv3tb
@Emmanuel-mv3tb 2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa sister/brother (idk which you are pardon me) I was also very fascinated with Islam. More accurately, I thought the religions were one and the same, varying only in prophet and Gods revelation of himself. Not only was I ignorant, but I was also oblivious to the facts staring me in the face. Even as a Christian, it was by chance that I stumbled upon a Christian preacher channel. Here I saw that they believed exactly what I believed. However, in said videos, I saw Muslims, whom I thought would be similar to my Muslim friends, attack my religion, and essentially trample all over my belief. Then I started seeing some Muslims with a bit more knowledge ask very specific questions. It had evolved from simple denial of what we believe (which most Muslims are conditioned to do naturally) apologetics. Videos later, I end up on a dcci video that exposes the most blatant lie that I've have ever seen. Yet, not once did a Muslim admit to this fallacy beforehand. Why did I write this anecdote? Its to show you that we are actually on similar paths, trying to find the truth. I will put my hand up and apologise if my quotations are innacurate to some degree.
@Emmanuel-mv3tb
@Emmanuel-mv3tb 2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa love you bro, hope your efforts pay off. we're all in this search for truth together. let us make sure that we both make the effort to fact check everything people tell us, not to absorb and regurtitate😅
@SohoKnights
@SohoKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Explain why 37 different qurans were taken to Speakers Corner and Verified by Arab speakers that they were different
@Chris-in1vc
@Chris-in1vc 2 жыл бұрын
We have come to the conclusion that 99 per cent of muslims don't know much about Islam and their book ( Quran). Shabir Ally has studied ilslam in detail and he discovered the truth that Quran is incomplete and full of errors. Lets read this sahih Hadith: ref: Sahih Al Bukhari 4481, English ref: vol. 6,book 60, Hadith 8. " Narrated Ibn Abbas: ' Umar said, " Our best Quran reciter is Ubai and our best judge is Ali; and in spite of this, we leave some of the statements of Ubai because Ubai says, " I do not leave anything that I have heard from Allah's Messenger ( s. a. w.) While Allah, " We abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We bring a better one or similar to it ( Q2:106). " So according to this statement proves the Quran of hafs and wash ( most common ones) had been filtered over and over by the companions of Muhammad, and now they ( Muslims) have these ones. Today if you ask any Muslim where is the chapter of breastfeeding for adult and stoning, he can not find it in the today's Quran, but in the sahih Hadith is spoken about this. verses
@gohan3243
@gohan3243 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Caliph Uthman burn all the Qur’ans except one? What is the punishment for burning Qur’ans?
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
He did it "with respect", lol. Muslims come up with many (arbitrary) reasons why he did it. Historically, he was most likely trying to simply get rid of variant readings. If there were not, there would have been no reason to destroy them.
@Justatreecutter
@Justatreecutter 3 ай бұрын
I respectfully burned the book of mormon, because it is a book that people use to lie about the Saviour. And by respectfully, I mean respect for the truth of the gospel, not respect for the book of mormon.
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
Look also at the channel "Variant Quran" by Dr. Brubaker. He shows many early 8th century Quranic mss with variants in the text.
@livingmanna627
@livingmanna627 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Shabir Ally , for being more honest.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
We know that theres a missing verses and added verses in the bible let alone the pagan origins of the trinity
@Massiah82
@Massiah82 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Response… the Ole Tu Quoque Fallacy! Lol! Maybe try answering the challenge at hand before slinging mud - you know just for a change.
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 I'm not Christian, but keep in mind that a few added verses (like the long ending of Mark) does not change the Christian theology. Also, Christians never make a claim that the Bible is word for word, it is simply an account of people based on oral traditions. The idea of the Trinity is just their way of understanding which took time to develop, I don't agree with it, but you can defend it based on the texts. The Quran talks of the spirit for example, which is some part of Allah, so you could argue that Muslims have 2/3 of the Trinity.
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373bye bye "preserved quran" 😂🤣😂🤣
@Christian-Roots818
@Christian-Roots818 2 жыл бұрын
He is being honest because it’s Not Easy to defend a Lie ! A Complete man-made make-believe Fake Fairytale of a Religion !
@lukesusilo2112
@lukesusilo2112 2 жыл бұрын
we have holes in the narratives and we're proud of that
@gothicguy2138
@gothicguy2138 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@umarsyed7538
@umarsyed7538 2 жыл бұрын
No holes. Don't celebrate prematurely. Check out the original interview.
@gothicguy2138
@gothicguy2138 2 жыл бұрын
@@umarsyed7538 Sorry sir, we will not. This clip is more than enough giving the outrageous claim the Quran of itself of not having an error.
@gwin8463
@gwin8463 2 жыл бұрын
In Ali dawah's voice 😂😂😂
@RJ-fg8kw
@RJ-fg8kw 2 жыл бұрын
What nudged Shabir Ally to say these things? I wonder. Q1: Could it be 37+ Qurans with all their glaring inconsistencies which means that the book has not been preserved and was not sent down by Allah? Q2: Could it be that Uthman burned all but one copy and most Muslims ended up with the recitation of Hafs, the liar, plagiarist and thief? Not my words. That's what numerous scholars report him to be. Q3: Could it be that there was a sleepy scribe along the way and people like Umar and Ibn Sarh feeding lines to MHMD and a suggestion to add poetry if there were missing parts to the Quran? Q4: Could it be that there was no tashkil to interpret Arabic (or borrowed Aramaic texts for that matter) that can result in as many as 20 or more possible words from one word alone!? It was a complete guessing game when it came to adding diacritical marks. 25% of the Quran isn't understood most likely because of this guessing game when diacritical marks were invented. Q5: Could it be that Al-Fatihah, the first surah, is a borrowed Syro-Aramaic prayer almost word for word? And could it be that Ibn Mas'ud, the best reciter of the Quran, said that MHMD never recited Al-Fatihah, so Ibn Mas'ud didn't include it in his recitation? Most Muslims got Hafs with Al-Fatihah. Q6: Could it be that the People of the Book and our non-Muslims are saying out loud publically what Islamic scholars have been hiding from Muslims themselves? Finally, could it be that they are trying to shut up people with knowledge of their Quranic texts and call anyone daring to expose the truth about the Quranic texts a "phobe" because Muslims are afraid that we are letting the cat out of the bag? The cat is already out of the bag. And man, it's not some tiny cat sneezed from a lion. It's a lion sneezed from a cat.
@sirunikunushik7735
@sirunikunushik7735 2 жыл бұрын
All of the above are correct.
@bestKaffir.underTheSon
@bestKaffir.underTheSon 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a Muslim show me where there is a manuscript to back the Hafs Quran. The variances between Hafs and Warsh are huge as they have differences in doctrine. The Bible is over 10000 manuscripts. The minor variants in the Bible do not alter the message at all.
@mynmeisname4825
@mynmeisname4825 Жыл бұрын
@@bestKaffir.underTheSon 1.And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month…Nebuzaradan…came…unto Jerusalem… -2 Kings 25:8 …in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month…came Nebuzaradan…into Jerusalem… -Jeremiah 52:12 2.Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. -2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… -2 Chronicles 36:9 3.Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. -II Kings 8:26 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. -II Chronicles 22:2 4.And [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. -Matthew 27:5 Now [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. -Acts 1:18 5.Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. -Matthew 10:34(peaceful Christianity?) These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. -John 16:33
@bestKaffir.underTheSon
@bestKaffir.underTheSon Жыл бұрын
@@mynmeisname4825 Exactly my point. Minor variants due to scribal errors and translation. None of them change the overall message at all. Scribes are human and can make minor copy mistakes. But look at the huge doctrinal errors in your Quran. And these errors you claim were caused by your god who makes mistakes. There are also huge doctrinal errors made by your god in the Hafs Quran. You claim Isa did not die in one part of your Quran. But Isa died in the other part of your Quran [5:117 - Shakir]. How come you have a god who makes huge doctrinal mistakes? Your god Al-Lah is the Best Deceiver [Satan]
@mynmeisname4825
@mynmeisname4825 Жыл бұрын
@@bestKaffir.underTheSon you are ignoring your own bible contradicts and pointing out the Qur'an Wait I'll answer you Read from 1 verse before and you will get your answer it's that simple. This is when on day of judgement Allah will ask isa a.s Isa a.s will also ultimately die. This is what happens when you take contradictions from islamophobes Any other so called contradiction?
@avalancheofapostasy4916
@avalancheofapostasy4916 2 жыл бұрын
Shabir starts by saying they parroted...lol. As he is parroting...🤣 Shabir has no choice to say what he is saying. There is so much evidence that the quran is fake and certainly not preserved thanks to you and other Christian channels. GOD BLESS YOU ALL...🙏🙏🙏 Soon they will stop using the hadiths all together because they have been exposed as rags worth nothing.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny that Christians can't show a different Quran only show a different dialects but we can show Christian's many different bibles with missing verses and added verses
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 What do you mean? Have you ever bothered to look into sources that list the numerous variants? Just as one example, in 17:102, the Hafs Quran says "you" (Pharaoh) but the Ibn Khaaled or al-Kisai Qurans say "I" (Moses). These give a very different meaning, is it Moses who knows, or the Pharaoh? Al-Jalalayn mentions this variant in his tafsir: He [Moses] said, ‘Indeed you know that none revealed these... (a variant reading [for ‘alimta, ‘you know’] has ‘alimtu [‘I know’]); al-Tabari, writing before the canonization of the different readings, rejected some which he argued were not correct, yet, they were later canonized!
@avalancheofapostasy4916
@avalancheofapostasy4916 2 жыл бұрын
@@theastronomer5800 Pay no attention to that dumb dumb general jg.. He is a troll who spits out ridiculous comments that have absolutely no bearing on anything other than childish ideas. Save you replies for someone who is worthy of you ideas.
@avalancheofapostasy4916
@avalancheofapostasy4916 2 жыл бұрын
@@theastronomer5800 Over 42 variants of the quran now discovered.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
@@jooo7011 the Christian human God speaks to himself in third person may the romans be upon him
@jdiaz7068
@jdiaz7068 2 жыл бұрын
Ibn Masud had only 111 chapters in his Quran, ibn Kab had 116, whereas Uthman’s codex contained 114 surahs!
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny that Christians cant show a different Quran only different dialects but we can show them missing verses and added verses from the bible😂
@BrotherInChristDK
@BrotherInChristDK 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 we don’t claim a perfect Bible but all those bibles you have are going to say Jesus died on the cross and came back to life unlike the Quran
@kyourybus1986
@kyourybus1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 Just answer this, is the Hafs Quran a dialectic copy of the Warsh Quran, or is the Warsh Quran a dialectic copy of the Hafs Quran and which Quran is the one on the tablet of allah.
@bigfan2452
@bigfan2452 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 yes, we can show Muslims that entire surahs went missing from the Quran. A verse regarding stoning and adult br☆st suckling went missing.
@thewordistheonlytruth8784
@thewordistheonlytruth8784 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrotherInChristDK we can proof that the quran Is not from mohammad time 80 precent is christian and jew secterian material before mohamad.
@shawny8357
@shawny8357 2 жыл бұрын
The theology of Islam is on fire, it keeps burning and being destroyed, soon Islam would no more. Keep pressing hatun, and keep bringing them to the Messiah.
@Chris-wr9hv
@Chris-wr9hv 4 ай бұрын
I am Catholic but it doesn't matter if there are Variations. In our Bible most know the problem with perikope adulterae.
@MakDul-jn2ou
@MakDul-jn2ou 4 ай бұрын
​@@Chris-wr9hvcatholic pll and Muslims are idol worshippers.catholics kiss the statue of maria and the Muslims kiss the black stone
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
Here is just one variant that shows a clear contradiction: In 17:102, the Hafs says "you" (Pharaoh) but Ibn Khaaled or al-Kisai says "I" (Moses). These give a very different meaning, is it Moses who knows, or the Pharaoh? Al-Jalalayn mentions this variant in his tafsir: He [Moses] said, ‘Indeed you know that none revealed these... (a variant reading [for ‘alimta, ‘you know’] has ‘alimtu [‘I know’]); al-Tabari, writing before the canonization of the different readings, rejected some which he argued were not correct, yet, they were later canonized!
@eddiegeijn9965
@eddiegeijn9965 2 жыл бұрын
Just read the Torah, it is the source of God anyway
@swervo2.037
@swervo2.037 2 жыл бұрын
Same text different recitation.There are Various types of recitation when it comes to the Quran.All of them have the same meaning. This Quran has been memorized by how many millions of Muslim, recited in the same way by all Muslims. The Verse you are referring to actually starts with “‏قال” Meaning, he said. He is who “Moses”, so even if in that version it was “I” it still doesn’t change the meaning because it’s still referring to Moses.
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiegeijn9965 It's a man-made book based on local myths, and contains a bit too much violence for my liking!
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 2 жыл бұрын
@@swervo2.037 Hi. Thanks for the explanation. I understand that it's Moses who is doing the speaking, however, in one he says I and in the other he says you... They don't have the same meaning, how? I in Hafs we read "[Moses] said, You have already known" [Sahih Int]. From what I understand, in al-Kisai's reading, Moses said to Pharaoh, “I have known”. How does "I" (Moses) mean "you"? I don't know Arabic, I'm just going by what Islamic translators who know classical Arabic say. The scholar Al-Farrāʼ records that the “I have known” variant is attributed to ʿAlī, who is narrated as saying, “By God, what the enemy of God knows, Musa knows!”. This is not the only case in the Quran where ʿAlī reportedly disagreed with a majority reading, according to Al-Farrāʼ. There seems to be many instances where you have you/they, he/it, we/he, I/he... To me (and I would assume most other people who understand grammar), these give different meanings, no? The number of people memorizing a book today has little to do with these variants. If you look at the most ancient manuscripts there are numerous variants (most scribal errors, like in any ancient texts), and we know that oral traditions are not 100% accurate. There are many stories in the Quran that repeat but with different (and contradictory) details, these are signs of different streams of transmission. One of the reasons that Uthman wanted to collect the Quran was because people started to vary on the verses, so already only a few decades after there were issues (as to be expected). And the sahih hadiths lists the sources, all written, and the hearts of men at the end - it does not say right away that they simply sat down and recited the Quran from their perfect memories, such a view didn't exist in early Islam. Would you claim that today's Quran goes back 100% to Muhammad? I don't see how that is historically likely if you study oral cultures and manuscripts.
@ngobijerry4607
@ngobijerry4607 2 жыл бұрын
The truth is only found in Christ. Thanks DCCI for the good 😂
@rafayshakeel4812
@rafayshakeel4812 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus عليه السلام never claimed to be God.
@ngobijerry4607
@ngobijerry4607 2 жыл бұрын
@@rafayshakeel4812 when you are born and brought up in a cult that denies the obvious truth, then you have no hope at all.
@rafayshakeel4812
@rafayshakeel4812 2 жыл бұрын
@@ngobijerry4607 Well, that's ironic. I'm not the one who believes in 3 Gods, that's your nonsense. Jesus عليه السلام was only a messenger of Allah (ﷻ), nothing more, nothing less. How can the creator of All things become his creation and die? Can God die? Do you guys even listen to yourself when you speak? Pathetic!
@ngobijerry4607
@ngobijerry4607 2 жыл бұрын
@@rafayshakeel4812 The day you learn that cutting off people's necks and forceful conversions is wickedness and backward then you will understand the Trinity.
@spicyshizz2850
@spicyshizz2850 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao another brainwashed folk 🤣 Can you give be the best evidence you have? Also why do u believe? Peter 3:15
@tboss6689
@tboss6689 2 жыл бұрын
the Quran is full of contradictions
@ankur7773
@ankur7773 2 жыл бұрын
🤔AVIDENCE IS HARAM IN ISLAM
@g-skillz-southafrica8788
@g-skillz-southafrica8788 4 ай бұрын
Thats not true
@tboss6689
@tboss6689 4 ай бұрын
@@g-skillz-southafrica8788 wanna bet ? lots of errors and contradictions
@g-skillz-southafrica8788
@g-skillz-southafrica8788 4 ай бұрын
@@tboss6689 There are none.
@tboss6689
@tboss6689 4 ай бұрын
@@g-skillz-southafrica8788 WANNA BET ? There are many errors and contradictions in the Quran, most scholars agree
@bigfan2452
@bigfan2452 2 жыл бұрын
Their are holes in the standard narrative. The Quran is corrupt and therefore it is unreliable and historically inaccurate. I love ❤️ this video by Hatun Tash.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
The bible is full of errors and contradictions let alone the pagan origin of the trinity
@bigfan2452
@bigfan2452 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 The same case with the Quran. Full of errors, mistakes, historically false and it is pagan. The kissing, throwing stones is a pagan ritual not a Jewish tradition.
@hellenwanjiru7965
@hellenwanjiru7965 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 The Bible doesn't allow grown up man to marry six year old girl.
@tbone8119
@tbone8119 2 жыл бұрын
Very good. Every Muslims should watch this....
@isaacleillhikar4566
@isaacleillhikar4566 2 жыл бұрын
Its most Amazing to me there were people in North Africa who believed this. Theres a different Kiraat, Qaloun, in Tunisia and Lybia, and Warsh in Algeria and Moroco !
@okch4m
@okch4m Ай бұрын
So when a black guy says "aks" instead of "ask", he's now speaking another language and different? yeah right
@AI-dc3zo
@AI-dc3zo 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, Shabir Ali has to agree at the end, that their book is preserved, even after dismissing that claim, in order to keep his head on his neck.
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 2 жыл бұрын
Qur'an Is Corrupted And Not Preserved. 👇 Qur'an Sura 3:54 and Sura 8:30 Allah is the Best of Deceivers..planners.
@darsom2717
@darsom2717 2 жыл бұрын
Shabir is prone to lying for his religion, always has been, his early debates with Dr David Wood will reveal this to anyone, it's a pity
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 2 жыл бұрын
@@darsom2717 1. Shabir Ally 2. Zakir Naik 3. Uthman Ibn Farook = The Islamic Taquiya Trinity. 👇 AND a Dead Taquiya Extra = Ahmed Deedat.
@darsom2717
@darsom2717 2 жыл бұрын
@@GodIsLove1015 spot on 👍
@Raziq.D
@Raziq.D Жыл бұрын
@@darsom2717 wym
@sophiabrown9747
@sophiabrown9747 2 жыл бұрын
Well a lot of things get suppressed in the quran take for example the breastfeeding chapter is missing
@moji3863
@moji3863 2 ай бұрын
Read Surah Al-Baqarah (Chapter 2), Verse 233.
@youwhat491
@youwhat491 2 жыл бұрын
which guillible person took this heavily edited and mangled video seriously
@NEW_CREATION_IN_JESUS
@NEW_CREATION_IN_JESUS 2 жыл бұрын
In Mathew 8:28-29 Demon themselves say to Jesus *”What do you want with us, Son of God?” Demon shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?”* This Above verse in Scripture is Solid Proof and Strong Answer to Muslims who keeps Questioning Christians that show us where Jesus said He is God... So the Answer you can give them that -*O Muslims your Father Devil himself agrees that Jesus is SON OF GOD then why you want to be Ignorant...* Demons says to Jesus “O SON OF GOD, why have you come to Torment us before the Appointed time... *2 Cor 4:4 - Satan who is the god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.* In Order to be Saved from Hell pls be BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN (No other Religion will Help) Praise the Lord Our Saviour...
@ozzie4820
@ozzie4820 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the demons knows who Jesus was but not Allah nor Mohamed nor jibril!! Bloody Abdools are dumb!
@Christian-Roots818
@Christian-Roots818 2 жыл бұрын
Praise The Lord !!!
@rajdialnandram5676
@rajdialnandram5676 2 жыл бұрын
Muslims will just say that these verses are corrupted in the Bible and is not true. They will continue to believe in the illogical things in the beloved Quran.
@FunnyVideos51836
@FunnyVideos51836 2 жыл бұрын
Even demons recognised Jesus as a son of God but for muslims not.😜😜
@FunnyVideos51836
@FunnyVideos51836 2 жыл бұрын
God son is God! Jesus is a son of GOD,it means Jesus is God.🙏🙏
@fromjulian
@fromjulian 2 жыл бұрын
So scholars/sheiks have always known that the claim to 'perfect preservation, all Qurans the same, the world over, since the time of Muhammad' is false. What I was told, and what was written in the booklets given to me, by dawah folk was lies! Why did it take Hatun & Jay Smith showing differences in todays Qurans to get them to admit the truth? About what other things have the imams and dawah folk lied to us?
@alonzoharris6730
@alonzoharris6730 2 жыл бұрын
Hatun believes in three gods.
@avalancheofapostasy4916
@avalancheofapostasy4916 2 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse they knew, but they wanted to be good muslims and the only way to do that is to lie and decieve everyone including their own.
@solascriptura1536
@solascriptura1536 2 жыл бұрын
When a secret has been discovered, the option can be to admit that it is true, or to make up another secret to hide the truth again. It is always best to keep the critics away and the fellow believers away so that one can have a clear mind and process information to come to a clear conclusion. Don't take Hatun or Jay's word, neither take Yasir Qadhi or Shabir Ally's word, convince yourself by your own investigation. At judgment day, neither Yasir Qadhi or Jay Smith will be answering for you, you will account for yourself.
@neilsavage8915
@neilsavage8915 2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 Hallo Polly.
@ankur7773
@ankur7773 2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 😁😁😃
@sleepwalker7755
@sleepwalker7755 2 жыл бұрын
Hatun loves Muslims. But Jesus loves them more. Now, with evidence like this, Muslims can turn to the perfect 1 true God.
@w2aqaqa386
@w2aqaqa386 2 жыл бұрын
Adnan Rashid - "there are pages missing" Mansur "there are scribal errors" Mohammad hijab " the quran has not been preserved" Yasir qadhi " there are holes in the narrative
@umibrahimibrahim4966
@umibrahimibrahim4966 Жыл бұрын
Lier lier
@samiaziz5
@samiaziz5 2 жыл бұрын
Where is Muhammad's Quran.. Where is the Uthman Queresh Quran .. Who wrote Hafs and Warsh Quran..
@ancadan9935
@ancadan9935 4 ай бұрын
My experience was that the Muslim knew that the perfect preservation argument is false but still approached me with the lie. When I debunked his lie he went all "you re smart, you re knowledgeable, you re brilliant!" I was confused...
@SahitDagani
@SahitDagani 2 жыл бұрын
So they themselves know it's not preserved, yet they falsely brag it's preserved, hypothetical liars!
@silverltc2729
@silverltc2729 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't a lie to them, you have to realise their mind set. I have a lesson for you Sahit. Taqiyya is for Shia, Muda'rat is for Sunni. They are both tactical deceit for the purpose of spreading Islam. Kitman is deceit by omission Tawriya is deceit by deliberate ambiguity Daruna is the deceit through necessity (to engage in something haram to exploit non-muslims) Taysir deceit through facilitation (I.e making things easier: telling a revert they can still drink alcohol until they are ready) Muruna is flexibility or temporary suspension of Shariah, making Muslims appear moderate until numbers are high enough to enforce Shariah.
@polarisstar2191
@polarisstar2191 5 ай бұрын
I pray one day Dr Shabir see the real truth and convert to Christianity.
@MakDul-jn2ou
@MakDul-jn2ou 4 ай бұрын
Pray for him diligently and ask God to give him the Holy Spirit.cause without the spirit of God he can not come to Christ
@BogartFan001
@BogartFan001 2 жыл бұрын
This poor Muslim scholar has placed himself in a very precarious position. Life maybe increasingly fleeting for him. Furthermore, he seems to shake his head “No” as he pays lip service to Quranic purists. Sir, please consider Y’shua’s invitation… Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Rev 3:20)
@rafayshakeel4812
@rafayshakeel4812 2 жыл бұрын
The Bible is not a reliable source of information, so you quoting the bible won't help you in any way. You're basing your salvation on a book that is filled with contradictions and errors.
@albusai
@albusai 2 жыл бұрын
@@rafayshakeel4812 😂 he is not a Muslim.
@rafayshakeel4812
@rafayshakeel4812 2 жыл бұрын
@@albusai I'm aware of that, brother!
@darsom2717
@darsom2717 2 жыл бұрын
@BogartFan may I ask please, who is Y'shua?
@BogartFan001
@BogartFan001 2 жыл бұрын
@@darsom2717 May I suggest you read the gospel of John, and His identity you will discover.
@tomwellington4255
@tomwellington4255 2 жыл бұрын
These are rats jumping a sinking ship. It has become very clear to folk like Shabir Ally that the position of a perfectly preserved Quran is indefensible.
@ashokbhyrodoyal5494
@ashokbhyrodoyal5494 2 жыл бұрын
God bless. What the use of having a book being word for word and leterr by letter, etc being preserved yet the teachings are contradictory and evil by killing the kufar.
@Motivationalsoul728
@Motivationalsoul728 Ай бұрын
The comment section is full of non-muslim getting happy over Quran is not perserved. Cry more! The Quran is preserved and it always will be till the end of the times. Weather you accept it or not it’s preserved word by word letter by letter.
@glueckseligehoffnung3058
@glueckseligehoffnung3058 28 күн бұрын
Even if that would be true - the quran is still a lie from the pit of darkness leading people to eternal hell, because a demon encountered Mohammed and tried to kill him three times. Mohammed even doubts if this was a godly encounter. Nowhere in the bible will you find such a thing. Come to Jesus, he saves your soul from hell, while Allah will maybe put you there if your works are not enough. ✝️💗
@alcaponedarius7730
@alcaponedarius7730 2 жыл бұрын
Shabir Alli is the only Muslim scholar who comes to sense sometimes 😌…
@Cal-smith7026
@Cal-smith7026 2 жыл бұрын
hes doing damage control because thanks to the internet they can no longer lie to people
@kirinsama2959
@kirinsama2959 Жыл бұрын
Just when Shabir was about to answer the question about preservation THEY CUT THE VIDEO SHORT. Unbelievable the dishonesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@rickflash91
@rickflash91 Жыл бұрын
He is not a scholar what are you talking about?
@dollahmusa6705
@dollahmusa6705 2 жыл бұрын
They was No koran at the time of muhammad...how many person change the koran already....where got dot by dot preserved...holes in the narrative....
@ihearttubing
@ihearttubing 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is collapsing under the shining light of truth and righteous ridicule. This cannot be stopped or reversed. It is for an ignorant isolated people.
@indigatorveritatis219
@indigatorveritatis219 2 жыл бұрын
Even IF it were preserved, it's still a garbage book
@solascriptura1536
@solascriptura1536 2 жыл бұрын
The reason I do not trust nor quote scholars is because they are human, and they can make mistakes. They will deliberately send out wrong information to please whomever they are agreeing with, or whomever has the deepest pockets. Humans are fallible.
@alonzoharris6730
@alonzoharris6730 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you trust the bible? It's written by humans.
@StevenPongolani-pp9by
@StevenPongolani-pp9by 2 ай бұрын
Shabil is wise than other Muslims scholars because I can see that he is neutral in some situations
@Derek_Baumgartner
@Derek_Baumgartner 2 жыл бұрын
Hm: almost like there's holes in the standard narrative about the preservation of the Qu'ran.
@joewise1677
@joewise1677 2 жыл бұрын
The beginning of the end of Islam.
@bobfisher1909
@bobfisher1909 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, after admitting its been changed he still thinks its the same. Ask me this way back in 1924 in Cairo school students were giving different answers to the questions as they brought with them their own copy of the Quran from home, and it made them to take action and canonize the Hafs Quran so all the students there called read the same text, then they took all the other books from the school students and sunk them in the Nile. So if they are the same word for word why did they need to sink them? Also they had to unite the world with one text back in 1984 by authorise everyone to follow the Hafs Quran also, bar those in Africa who still read Warsh
@MrBanana2000
@MrBanana2000 Жыл бұрын
Your disingenuousness blinds you if you think the 7 styles of reciting the Quran came after the prophet Muhammed (SAW).
@Chris-wr9hv
@Chris-wr9hv 4 ай бұрын
Now we have the year 2024. Congratulations to 100 year Quran!
@SQUID12
@SQUID12 2 ай бұрын
You do realise that Hafs wash are all recitations that are taught by prophet muhammad pbuh himself, also the orignal Quran recitation is hafs as it's in Quraysh dialect, it's way better compared to Bible which has verses missing in many versions
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 27 күн бұрын
Whilst other religions emphasise that truthfulness is a virtue Islam's relationship with truth and truthfulness is rather ‘strained and complex’ but we can, at the very least, say that Muslims are not required to tell the truth under all circumstances and, if in their interest, deceit is sometimes actively encouraged!
@SohoKnights
@SohoKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@hassanatana3314
@hassanatana3314 11 ай бұрын
Allah preserved his Quran. So do not say anything contrary to Allah's saying. So Allah has said it. He has preserved it.
@meredithhastings8496
@meredithhastings8496 Ай бұрын
Wake up
@mo_51_married_aisha_6
@mo_51_married_aisha_6 2 жыл бұрын
The standard narrative has more holes in it than a cheese factory. 🏭 🧀
@iankennedy1441
@iankennedy1441 2 жыл бұрын
just shows u how dishonest the dawah team at speakers corner is
@shakazulu8254
@shakazulu8254 2 жыл бұрын
The truth always come out no matter when
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
And the truth is not christianity imagine believing god was a baby for 9 months and he has a mother
@shakazulu8254
@shakazulu8254 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 What's thz meaning of almighty? You human can tell god how he should presented himself?
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 7 ай бұрын
@@generaljg4373 So your allah is not capable of sending his word to us as a human being? Not much of a god if he cannot even do that. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day? And if not, where does that leave you?
@albukharisss
@albukharisss Жыл бұрын
i dont get it whats the contradiction, uthman were the companion of the Prophet (pbuh) and there were hundread of people who memorized the quran at that time. Uthman gatherd all the memorizers and wrote what was common in all of them. the majority agreed it to be the exact same as the one the Prophet (pbuh) told. and sanna the text written on the top menaing the correceted text matches the moder quran word by word, why are you giving value to something that was removed by the same perrson wrtting that tablet over something he corrected?
@Christian-Roots818
@Christian-Roots818 2 жыл бұрын
“ Word for Word, Letter for Letter “ What a Complete Joke haha 😆
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
Just have to ask: do u use authentic photo of urself? 🤗
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
Its def. a joke 😂
@micheal74rich
@micheal74rich 2 жыл бұрын
If one were to remove words or add words into the Quran, then Quran checksum would collapses and entire Quran is multiple of 19. People can like about Quran specially the Christians but numbers do not like and numbers cannot lie.
@eltrillionaire-395
@eltrillionaire-395 10 ай бұрын
Why cut the scenes instead o showing everything he said. You are intentionally showing what you want to show. Exposed.
@A25yuub
@A25yuub 4 ай бұрын
Where is the original
@dannypantom3536
@dannypantom3536 2 ай бұрын
When you have a honest Muslim being honest that’s what I respect 🫡
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 Ай бұрын
Yes, Dr. Ally is one of the very few that I can actually listen to with respect.
@adamshudu8306
@adamshudu8306 2 жыл бұрын
Lizzie and Hatun exposed as Hippocrates hahaha 😂😀😀😀
@peyet6561
@peyet6561 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know alLah cursed black people for hell??? Mishkat al-Masabih 119 Abud Darda' reported God’s messenger as saying, “God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring BLACK as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, ‘To paradise, and I do not care’ and He said to the party in HIS LEFT SHOULDER, ‘TO HELL, and I DO NOT CARE ’.”
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean hypocrites?
@swissapologetics
@swissapologetics 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is a bunch of lies. Thank you sister
@Carl007Jr
@Carl007Jr 2 жыл бұрын
Yet he doesn't give a single example in this video, because DCCI completely picked and chose from his video. There are no corrupted versions of the Quran. Any mosque you go to, language you'll speak the Quran in, it's all the same. Unlike the Bible, which changes constantly, where christians disagree on how many books are in the bible, depending on the sect.
@chiaratiara2575
@chiaratiara2575 2 жыл бұрын
It never grows old! Good for Shabir Ally.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
In christianity God was a baby for 9 months and the bible has many errors and contradictions
@temporaryaccount5307
@temporaryaccount5307 2 жыл бұрын
Good for Shabir ally? Have u ever stopped to listen to him? He’s as much of a cherry picking clown than the rest! Completely disregarding what his Q says (like they ALL do), he makes stuff up as he goes bc some “scholar” said this 900 yrs ago. The prob is that another “scholar” said that 1000 yrs ago and neither is what the Q says.
@mohammedwhylie9224
@mohammedwhylie9224 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 the father send his son, who died for your sins, (to make it easier for you to enter heaven) then the holy spirit was send to humanity, to guide us here on earth....THEN SATAN (Jibril) reacted and terrorised a man (mohammed), feeding him lies telling him that Jesus didnt die for mens sins, and Mohammed terrorized men to blindly believe Satans lies
@chiaratiara2575
@chiaratiara2575 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 It would be good if you made a serious effort to understand the Bible, instead of dissing God at your own risk. Maybe you've got Him all wrong and you need to find that out.
@kamekameha721
@kamekameha721 2 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedwhylie9224 this general is just a troll,he put out some comments but never dare to answer any questions!!!
@NJ-ju8fr
@NJ-ju8fr 2 жыл бұрын
Meeting ends. "See you later?" "Goodbye."
@jackthisout9480
@jackthisout9480 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that they claim that not even a dot was changed. Technically that is true, with the obvious error in the reasoning: dotting did not exist at the time the quran was supposedly written.
@ericbochardt2989
@ericbochardt2989 3 ай бұрын
1 year later they are still claiming its perfect, this vudeo should be shared by as many as possible
@RJ-fg8kw
@RJ-fg8kw 2 жыл бұрын
The sequence of the Quran or the Order of Narration is a problem in and of itself. If this book is from Allah, why isn't the order of narration preserved. Why are people messing with it? Couldn't Allah keep the timeline straight? The Order of Narration is bid'a. With the San'a Palimsest, Allah changed his mind apparently and erased his first draft and wrote over it. Finally, one has to ask whether anything was preserved. There is no pre-Uthmanic Quran out there. C'mon, Allah!
@RJ-fg8kw
@RJ-fg8kw 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. Did Shabir call Yasir Qadhi a parrot? According to Yasir Qadhi, claiming that Quran was perfectly preserved is fine when speaking to the ignorant masses. In upper level courses that this scholar teaches, of course they tell it like it is and unmask the real truth. When speaking with Mimi Hijab, he explained that we don't talk about those kinds of things in public. According to Yasir Qadhi, pay your tuition and get your top secret clearance and then you'll be deep diving like a scuba diver into all the holes of the Islamic narrative. No scuba club out there has enough oxygen to get through semester.
@ibelongtojesus0316
@ibelongtojesus0316 2 жыл бұрын
Cult that keeps on giving and giving and giving and giving and giving..... but it's all hogwash and well preserved, the lies and all. Oh how I love Jesus. He gave the best - Himself. We need Jesus...
@archieandluna2019
@archieandluna2019 2 ай бұрын
Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم revised Quran reading with angel Jibreel a.s and then he taught it to the companions r.a
@sentinal2343
@sentinal2343 2 жыл бұрын
Explains the variations then declares its STILL from GOD! ha ha , R.I.P Islam!!
@snowwhitejustamemerizeroft3832
@snowwhitejustamemerizeroft3832 2 жыл бұрын
Pretending like the bible is preserved 😏
@blessing21
@blessing21 2 жыл бұрын
and you Muslims think koran is? when Mohammad came hundreds of years later with no witness, no miracle, and he was illiterate unlearned 😆🤣.
@morgankibet9427
@morgankibet9427 2 ай бұрын
it is
@raphaeldeleon5953
@raphaeldeleon5953 2 жыл бұрын
Shabir Ali just said multiple times that the Quran has NOT BEEN PRESERVED. Then when asked a direct question about whether the present day Quran has been preserved, he says yes it has. NOTE This man Shabir Ali is considered one of the scholars of Islam.
@ZazaMarkle
@ZazaMarkle 9 ай бұрын
What do you wanna say? He said nowadays quran is preserved yes its true isnt it? Problem is the first revelation is being lost
@afghanii3275
@afghanii3275 8 ай бұрын
@@ZazaMarklelisten brother I know your trying to defend the religon but don’t speak without knowledge, the first revelation is still here all the Qurans are the same a variation is a difference for example if I have a shirt a different variation would be a different color the shirt is the same just a different variation
@Mannequeer
@Mannequeer 8 ай бұрын
@@afghanii3275 the word "same" means identical. A different variation of an item does not make it the same. If you and I had a shirt with the same graphic (no variation) I would say "I have that shirt in a different colour", not "I have the same shirt in a different colour" because the two shirts are not the same, only the graphic is the same.
@omar-1_
@omar-1_ 8 ай бұрын
Muslim scholars? Lie and believe your lie
@afghanii3275
@afghanii3275 8 ай бұрын
@@Mannequeer but it’s the same shirt whether it’s black or green or white or red Lmaoo listen the difference of variations is only the pronounciation the ROOT word of the word stays the same for example in one variation the word will say “muu” while another variation will say “moo” the root word is the same just the dialect is different just like in uk 🇬🇧 they speak English a certain way and in America we speak English a different way. Now when it comes to the Bible it’s not like that at all, you have whole statements and verses missing or a whole word is changed in this verse, now with the Quran it’s never ever like that. Hope that gave you some clarity :)
@auxilliamachavangu5105
@auxilliamachavangu5105 2 жыл бұрын
All these Muslims including Shabir Ally used to say word for word But they're less/ no longer mention it THANKSaLOT Hatun,Jay ,CP & the team
@RJ-fg8kw
@RJ-fg8kw 2 жыл бұрын
Ibn Footnote is the ultimate scholar, isn't he? His reputation as a scholar is stellar. I'd say that he is on par with Hafs. His grasp of Arabic is breathtaking, as much as Aishya's hyperventilation when she was told at age 6 that she was going to have a sex contract (nikah) with the "prophet" MHMD PBUH SAW (To be said like the Apostate Prophet). Sorry, not "breathe heavy," but "menstruate."
@flourishers
@flourishers 2 жыл бұрын
Islam dies without lies!
@wandering_circles7487
@wandering_circles7487 2 жыл бұрын
This is why Shabir Ally is the only islamic scholar that I respect.
@kamekameha721
@kamekameha721 2 жыл бұрын
What about sheikh Imran Hosein??
@servantsofchristph8700
@servantsofchristph8700 3 ай бұрын
Uthman the original Quran burner
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 2 жыл бұрын
This was good...
@deuteronomy6411
@deuteronomy6411 2 жыл бұрын
The ending is perfect example of COGNITIVE DISSONANCE He’s Just like Taqqiyya Naik
@umersiddiqui9455
@umersiddiqui9455 2 жыл бұрын
excellent video
@nejiskafir8198
@nejiskafir8198 2 жыл бұрын
I keep getting answers that the differences are explained by the Ahruf and Qiraat. Since there is supposed to be 7 ahruf, I ask them to show me the seven. No one answers. They deflect or disappear.
@sophiabrown9747
@sophiabrown9747 2 жыл бұрын
1:58 the size of ears👂 tho. you would think he would be a good listener. How many times he heard that the Quran is corrupt.
@yajujmajuj1739
@yajujmajuj1739 2 жыл бұрын
This is sad tho, cos d umma will soon disown shabir, like they did to YQ, and recently, to ibn footnote. What a cult!
@ghaith31
@ghaith31 5 ай бұрын
Variations I.e Ahruf and Qira’at (different styles of reading), and all of these *are* the Quran. No contradiction at all. Mentioned in the Hadith that The Quran has been revealed on 7 ahruf. Also in terms of the Uthmanic manuscript etc and those that say “what came before it?”, what came before it is the same as it today, except that the ummah of Islam is an ummah of memorization, and not of papyri copies and writing down, and this is known among the Arabs regarding their profound memorization skills when it comes to poetry which was their specialty etc. All in all, even if all Quran were burned today, it wouldn’t matter as within less than a day will the Muslim ummah print a new copy, as it is memorized by hundreds of millions today, same as how it was memorized by Muslims back at the time of The Prophet عليه الصلاة والسلام. And, as a testimony of that is the chain of narrators going back To The Prophet عليه الصلاة والسلام.
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 27 күн бұрын
@@ghaith31 “No contradictions at all” !!?!? 🤣🤣🤣 What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing? “Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,” (96:2). “We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26). “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,” (3:59). “But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?” (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35). “He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 27 күн бұрын
@@ghaith31 “No contradictions at all” !!?!? 🤣🤣🤣 Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur’an? “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,” (2:256). “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, - that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith,” (9:3). “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,” (9:5). Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,” (9:29).
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 27 күн бұрын
@@ghaith31 “No contradictions at all” !!?!? 🤣🤣🤣 The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses? “And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam,” (39:12). “When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: “O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee.” Allah said: “By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me.” When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe.” (7:143). “And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam,” (2:132).
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 27 күн бұрын
@@ghaith31 “No contradictions at all” !!?!? 🤣🤣🤣 Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning? “We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: “I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): “Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!” (10:90-92). Moses said, “Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!” So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him,” (17:102-103).
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 27 күн бұрын
@@ghaith31 “No contradictions at all” !!?!? 🤣🤣🤣 Is wine consumption good or bad? “O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan’s handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper,” (5:90). (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?” (47:15). Truly the Righteous will be in Bliss: On Thrones (of Dignity) will they command a sight (of all things): Thou wilt recognise in their faces the beaming brightness of Bliss. Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed,” (83:22-25).
@YouTubemainul
@YouTubemainul 10 ай бұрын
You cutting lecture here and there, misrepresentation of his knowledge
@reubenahn8020
@reubenahn8020 11 ай бұрын
I love Dr Shabir Ally, I’ve been interested in potentially converting to a Muslim as an atheist and he really puts my heart at ease. Even if you are religious you can’t turn a blind eye to facts. If you choose to believe with your heart closed off to question and doubt, you are no less close-minded than an atheist. Science and religion CAN co-exist
@_a_v_j
@_a_v_j 7 ай бұрын
What about Christianity, bro? If you'd like we can talk abt the gospel of Jesus Christ
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 7 ай бұрын
So which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? And how do you deal with all the mistakes and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day my friend? And remember on judgement day there will be ONLY heaven where GOD is or the other place, so where does that leave you my friend?
@MrNazarester
@MrNazarester 2 жыл бұрын
While each Muslim remains faithful to his cultural Religion (others including Christians, Hindus Budhists and even Maoists etc) the bottom line remains "WHO IS YESHUA? (Jesus). The same Person who "divided" history ( AD/BC ) Who made certain claims about Himself, which got Him in trouble, and who was sentenced to death? He is NOT ( and cannot be) defined by us "fallen" humans with rebellious sin " virus" He ( YESHUA) reveals Himself individually to anyone who is sincere, and dedicated, besides honest. It's not a "metaphysical matter" rather a personal one.Simply thst He lives! He DEFEATED death and hell! It's a matter of choice!
@daniel09dailey
@daniel09dailey 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣that ending actually made me laugh out loud.
@kirinsama2959
@kirinsama2959 Жыл бұрын
Just when Shabir was about to answer the question about preservation THEY CUT THE VIDEO SHORT. Unbelievable the dishonesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@johnolaoluwa
@johnolaoluwa 2 жыл бұрын
Deluded Islamic preachers at the Speakers's Corner is always laughable and comical. Well done to Dr Shabir Ally for being publicy honest on this subject. .... We need to pray for him to become born again! With God ALL things are possible.
@omarel-rasheedy9307
@omarel-rasheedy9307 2 жыл бұрын
Shabir ali is just a doctor. Compared to scholars like zakir naik, ahmed deedat, uthman farooq(who do say the quran is preserved word by word) he has less knowledge. But forget that, there's the Birmingham manuscript, go read it, compare it to today's quran... then tell me it's not preserved.
@Anwarjah
@Anwarjah Жыл бұрын
😂 Get over it
@omarel-rasheedy9307
@omarel-rasheedy9307 Жыл бұрын
@@Anwarjah I have. You Christians are the ones who still hold onto this broken argument
@Anwarjah
@Anwarjah Жыл бұрын
@@omarel-rasheedy9307 Get over the fantasy that the Quran was never changed, it’s obvious now with the internet and the age of information. Islam is done
@omarel-rasheedy9307
@omarel-rasheedy9307 Жыл бұрын
@@Anwarjah Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, while christianity is the fastest declining religion. If u choose to be ignorant and stupid that's up to you. If not then go read the Birmingham manuscript, topkapi manuscript, uthmani manuscript... etc. Not a single verse has been added in or taken out, all the "mistakes" you find are either spelling differences or scribal errors in copying/memory.
@yunopil7261
@yunopil7261 2 жыл бұрын
Why Allah did not preserve the Torah and the Gospel and preserve the Qur'an? - Sheikh Ahmed Al Subai watch YT video with english substitles : لماذا لم يحفظ الله التوراة والإنجيل وحفظ القرآن؟ - أحمد سبيع
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it's not preserved. Anyone can see that. He is just being honest about the Quran. How many different Qurans are we up to? 30 or so, I did hear 36 once. All different with thousands of differences. Some are minor but many are very substantial differences.
@nativetube
@nativetube Жыл бұрын
Says the guy with a profile pic of a cult movie, you obviously never been able to read quran in arabic language
@waymilky442
@waymilky442 Жыл бұрын
One Quran!
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 Жыл бұрын
@@waymilky442 Which one are you going to choose? You have many choices.
@Raz-G
@Raz-G 6 ай бұрын
It's so scary how everyone is just like... Preaching it, the world will come to end if this continues.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
One Quran different dialect but there's many different bibles with missing verses and added verses that's a fact
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, different words, completely different meanings. boom, there blows your "perfectly preserved" quran up in the smoke 😂😂😂🤣
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 2 жыл бұрын
@H K Phooey according to christianity plants were created before the sun that's the planet I live in
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
30+ different original arabic qurans- many variations changes and fabrications within the same dialects....funny u still get up with this last desperate attempt to defend the horribly bad argument that quran was preserved when quran itself scream and shout its not...😂🤣😂😂😂
@morgankibet9427
@morgankibet9427 2 ай бұрын
@@generaljg4373 According to islam muhammad flew with a donkey
@mohamedkaddouri9622
@mohamedkaddouri9622 10 ай бұрын
Did you listen to his whole interview instead of taking out snipets out of context 😂 ?
@danielo8504
@danielo8504 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 thank you for the laugh Hatun👍
@inkyfingers3447
@inkyfingers3447 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! The cat is out of the bag! The Big Lie is finally exposed by one of their own. Everything they were taught their whole life was a big fat lie. Now he’s blaming Muslims for not believing the Christians when they showed the different Korans.
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