No, the quarn is not preserved nor from God... It was Muhammad who copied some of it from the Bible, torah and other books and also made up his own verses.....
@bashhau3 ай бұрын
@Forgoodandnotthebad the quran is nothing like the bible. The latter is full or sex stories and contradiction. The quran only agrees to the part where the bible align with the original scripture.
@mohsinarif10802 ай бұрын
Muhammad could not read or write buddy
@whatthefittАй бұрын
Facts
@HappyCamper842 жыл бұрын
Ive seen more non muslims online that know more about islam than most muslims. Thanks to the people like the ones who run this channel.
@alonzoharris67302 жыл бұрын
Hatun believes in three gods.
@fromjulian2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 Deflection.
@neilsavage89152 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 Does Polly want a treat 😁
@ankur77732 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 😁😁
@enockt62182 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
@20july19442 жыл бұрын
I give Shabir Ally a gold star for intellectual honesty here -- sadly rare among Moslems
@mamansurahman21352 жыл бұрын
Shabbir Aly is like the others, repeatedly telling the same lie about the Quran before finally being forced to admit it.
@20july19442 жыл бұрын
@@mamansurahman2135 Most of his verminous co-religionists won't admit, however.
@joshuacooper99462 жыл бұрын
It’s only because he knows that we know and there’s no point even trying to use taqiyya at this point.
@20july19442 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacooper9946 I disagree: he has the primary goal of "preaching to the masjid" and keeping the current Moslems deluded. There is a native constituency who will never think critically, and in being even somewhat honest he puts that at risk.
@rubenalijohn77162 жыл бұрын
They have 37. Different. Korans. If. Our bible is different. And currupt. The good news is long as Jesus name in it. It's holy. And. Good to except. We don't worship Satan. He s killer. Who works in Muslim radicals. Heart. And mine to kill there own Muslim bro. And sis and the human race. Our god is all about love. In our holy bible. We Christian don't kill innocent people but to love them. And bring them to put loveing. God all mighty. In there. Hearts Amen
@setfreebythetruth-knowtrut37912 жыл бұрын
"the standard narrative has holes in it"
@Asantewarrior6 ай бұрын
say it with me - SIN
@sovl26593 ай бұрын
@@Asantewarrior Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) Has MASSIVE canyons in it. 😊
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
Garbage In, Garbage Out. We see it here everyday...
@elisabeth52852 жыл бұрын
Jezus is slave from Allah, Aaron, Alonzo, Jezus prayed to Allah, Hello, we see them every day. 😂
@NEW_CREATION_IN_JESUS2 жыл бұрын
In Mathew 8:28-29 Demon themselves say to Jesus *”What do you want with us, Son of God?” Demon shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?”* This Above verse in Scripture is Solid Proof and Strong Answer to Muslims who keeps Questioning Christians that show us where Jesus said He is God... So the Answer you can give them that -*O Muslims your Father Devil himself agrees that Jesus is SON OF GOD then why you want to be Ignorant...* Demons says to Jesus “O SON OF GOD, why have you come to Torment us before the Appointed time... *2 Cor 4:4 - Satan who is the god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.* In Order to be Saved from Hell pls be BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN (No other Religion will Help) Praise the Lord Our Saviour...
@ozzie48202 жыл бұрын
Yes the demons knows who Jesus was but not Allah nor Mohamed nor jibril!! Bloody Abdools are dumb!
@Christian-Roots8182 жыл бұрын
Praise The Lord !!!
@rajdialnandram56762 жыл бұрын
Muslims will just say that these verses are corrupted in the Bible and is not true. They will continue to believe in the illogical things in the beloved Quran.
@FunnyVideos518362 жыл бұрын
Even demons recognised Jesus as a son of God but for muslims not.😜😜
@FunnyVideos518362 жыл бұрын
God son is God! Jesus is a son of GOD,it means Jesus is God.🙏🙏
@nippymutt90182 жыл бұрын
5:01 He says 'yes', but shakes his head no... That's non-verbal leakage, a strong indicator that he's being deceitful.
@Raziq.D Жыл бұрын
what?
@daimsaeed Жыл бұрын
Tge quran was revealed in 7 different dialects/modes of recitation which had slight differences between them but the meaning was intact. fact is since the standardisation from the uthman era, the Quran has been preserved, scientifically proven from the quran found in Birmingham UK, furthermore the text found in sana'a cant be verfied (atleast not yet) if it was i.e an actual Quran or a students works etc.
@waymilky442 Жыл бұрын
He is South Asian you fool!
@yusufblessed22 Жыл бұрын
He literally said yes with straight face
@DPtheChristian Жыл бұрын
@@yusufblessed22 are you physically blind as well? (to add to your spiritual blindness)
@Chris-in1vc2 жыл бұрын
We have come to the conclusion that 99 per cent of muslims don't know much about Islam and their book ( Quran). Shabir Ally has studied ilslam in detail and he discovered the truth that Quran is incomplete and full of errors. Lets read this sahih Hadith: ref: Sahih Al Bukhari 4481, English ref: vol. 6,book 60, Hadith 8. " Narrated Ibn Abbas: ' Umar said, " Our best Quran reciter is Ubai and our best judge is Ali; and in spite of this, we leave some of the statements of Ubai because Ubai says, " I do not leave anything that I have heard from Allah's Messenger ( s. a. w.) While Allah, " We abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We bring a better one or similar to it ( Q2:106). " So according to this statement proves the Quran of hafs and wash ( most common ones) had been filtered over and over by the companions of Muhammad, and now they ( Muslims) have these ones. Today if you ask any Muslim where is the chapter of breastfeeding for adult and stoning, he can not find it in the today's Quran, but in the sahih Hadith is spoken about this. verses
@ulka77772 жыл бұрын
When Quran is gone, Islam doesn't have anything left. Why is Shabir still a Muslim?
@asylum57812 жыл бұрын
Watch the original video lmao. This channel removed a lot of the original and cherry picked in a way that promotes their agenda
@ulka77772 жыл бұрын
@@asylum5781 Which agenda? That Quran is not preserved dot by dot, letter by letter, sound by sound? Does he later contradict himself and say it is preserved dot by dot?
@thequransarecorruptedwarsh32382 жыл бұрын
@@asylum5781 you need to realise that you have been lied to yasir qadhi - "there are HOLES in the narrative".
@bashhau3 ай бұрын
That's because you didn't watch the entire video, but watch this out of context
@ulka77773 ай бұрын
@@bashhau so is Quran is preserved dot by dot?
@gohan32432 жыл бұрын
Why did Caliph Uthman burn all the Qur’ans except one? What is the punishment for burning Qur’ans?
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
He did it "with respect", lol. Muslims come up with many (arbitrary) reasons why he did it. Historically, he was most likely trying to simply get rid of variant readings. If there were not, there would have been no reason to destroy them.
@DelmyTreeCutter6 ай бұрын
I respectfully burned the book of mormon, because it is a book that people use to lie about the Saviour. And by respectfully, I mean respect for the truth of the gospel, not respect for the book of mormon.
@grapaux2 жыл бұрын
Some Muslims died believing the qur'an has been preserved letter for letter and word for word. They sacrificed their life for the preservation of the quran not knowing it was a lie. Look at how they misled people. I'm saddened. thanks for the video.
@jaycee45442 жыл бұрын
😭
@Emmanuel-mv3tb2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa half of the things you have listed for not believing in the bible are exclusively for the qutan. I say this because it is you guys that push those accusations on the books of others. We on the other hand have no issue with our earliest book being 200 yrs after Jesus ascended. You have to keep in mind, the doctrin of the church predates the compilation of the Bible. That already pokes a hole in your criticism, because we can see that from the earliest church fathers the trinitarian belief was present. The only reason for the council of nicea was to clamp down on heretical beliefs. What's more, your quran is also 'according to'. I mean, Muhammad didn't write it. He recited it to his followers, just as the disciples told the scribes what he witnessed (their accounts of Jesus' life). Your book comes from the followers of or Muhammad, and your whole faith rests on them transcribing everything for Muhammad perfectly, which as we can see, we have no surety of that. Even if they did, the first copy is still lost. Essentially what I am saying is that whatever criticism you have of the Bible, you'll more than likely shoot yourself in the foot because it can be applied to the quran.
@Emmanuel-mv3tb2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa there are several scientific errors in the quran, the idea you dipping a flies wing into you food for a cure, or the fact that urine is sold in suadi Arabia due to guidance from either the quran or hadith. But that's besides the point. You guys have difficulty understanding what you choose not to understand. If you apply the fact that God is unlike anything we can imagine, then our belief is no longer implausible. In terms of the trinity, its a doctrine derived from what the disciples heard and understand, and then proceeded to teach to the followers of Christ after his ascension. They themselves baptised in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. You could not insert Muhammad and Allah's name into that phraseology simultaneously, if not it would be classed as shirk. If any religion is confusing its Islam. How can you follow a man that ignored some of his own teachings according to sahih hadith, that had relations with a child at the age of 54, that was aroused by the presence of women that weren't his wife, and would then go home to have intercourse with them as a response. Don't get me wrong, prophets can make mistakes, but in the bible they repented immediately for said mistakes. I have not seen mo do this
@Emmanuel-mv3tb2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa sister/brother (idk which you are pardon me) I was also very fascinated with Islam. More accurately, I thought the religions were one and the same, varying only in prophet and Gods revelation of himself. Not only was I ignorant, but I was also oblivious to the facts staring me in the face. Even as a Christian, it was by chance that I stumbled upon a Christian preacher channel. Here I saw that they believed exactly what I believed. However, in said videos, I saw Muslims, whom I thought would be similar to my Muslim friends, attack my religion, and essentially trample all over my belief. Then I started seeing some Muslims with a bit more knowledge ask very specific questions. It had evolved from simple denial of what we believe (which most Muslims are conditioned to do naturally) apologetics. Videos later, I end up on a dcci video that exposes the most blatant lie that I've have ever seen. Yet, not once did a Muslim admit to this fallacy beforehand. Why did I write this anecdote? Its to show you that we are actually on similar paths, trying to find the truth. I will put my hand up and apologise if my quotations are innacurate to some degree.
@Emmanuel-mv3tb2 жыл бұрын
@Pipi Pipa love you bro, hope your efforts pay off. we're all in this search for truth together. let us make sure that we both make the effort to fact check everything people tell us, not to absorb and regurtitate😅
@shawny83572 жыл бұрын
The theology of Islam is on fire, it keeps burning and being destroyed, soon Islam would no more. Keep pressing hatun, and keep bringing them to the Messiah.
@Chris-wr9hv7 ай бұрын
I am Catholic but it doesn't matter if there are Variations. In our Bible most know the problem with perikope adulterae.
@MakDul-jn2ou7 ай бұрын
@@Chris-wr9hvcatholic pll and Muslims are idol worshippers.catholics kiss the statue of maria and the Muslims kiss the black stone
@RJ-fg8kw2 жыл бұрын
What nudged Shabir Ally to say these things? I wonder. Q1: Could it be 37+ Qurans with all their glaring inconsistencies which means that the book has not been preserved and was not sent down by Allah? Q2: Could it be that Uthman burned all but one copy and most Muslims ended up with the recitation of Hafs, the liar, plagiarist and thief? Not my words. That's what numerous scholars report him to be. Q3: Could it be that there was a sleepy scribe along the way and people like Umar and Ibn Sarh feeding lines to MHMD and a suggestion to add poetry if there were missing parts to the Quran? Q4: Could it be that there was no tashkil to interpret Arabic (or borrowed Aramaic texts for that matter) that can result in as many as 20 or more possible words from one word alone!? It was a complete guessing game when it came to adding diacritical marks. 25% of the Quran isn't understood most likely because of this guessing game when diacritical marks were invented. Q5: Could it be that Al-Fatihah, the first surah, is a borrowed Syro-Aramaic prayer almost word for word? And could it be that Ibn Mas'ud, the best reciter of the Quran, said that MHMD never recited Al-Fatihah, so Ibn Mas'ud didn't include it in his recitation? Most Muslims got Hafs with Al-Fatihah. Q6: Could it be that the People of the Book and our non-Muslims are saying out loud publically what Islamic scholars have been hiding from Muslims themselves? Finally, could it be that they are trying to shut up people with knowledge of their Quranic texts and call anyone daring to expose the truth about the Quranic texts a "phobe" because Muslims are afraid that we are letting the cat out of the bag? The cat is already out of the bag. And man, it's not some tiny cat sneezed from a lion. It's a lion sneezed from a cat.
@sirunikunushik77352 жыл бұрын
All of the above are correct.
@bestKaffir.underTheSon2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a Muslim show me where there is a manuscript to back the Hafs Quran. The variances between Hafs and Warsh are huge as they have differences in doctrine. The Bible is over 10000 manuscripts. The minor variants in the Bible do not alter the message at all.
@mynmeisname4825 Жыл бұрын
@@bestKaffir.underTheSon 1.And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month…Nebuzaradan…came…unto Jerusalem… -2 Kings 25:8 …in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month…came Nebuzaradan…into Jerusalem… -Jeremiah 52:12 2.Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. -2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… -2 Chronicles 36:9 3.Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. -II Kings 8:26 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. -II Chronicles 22:2 4.And [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. -Matthew 27:5 Now [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. -Acts 1:18 5.Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. -Matthew 10:34(peaceful Christianity?) These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. -John 16:33
@bestKaffir.underTheSon Жыл бұрын
@@mynmeisname4825 Exactly my point. Minor variants due to scribal errors and translation. None of them change the overall message at all. Scribes are human and can make minor copy mistakes. But look at the huge doctrinal errors in your Quran. And these errors you claim were caused by your god who makes mistakes. There are also huge doctrinal errors made by your god in the Hafs Quran. You claim Isa did not die in one part of your Quran. But Isa died in the other part of your Quran [5:117 - Shakir]. How come you have a god who makes huge doctrinal mistakes? Your god Al-Lah is the Best Deceiver [Satan]
@mynmeisname4825 Жыл бұрын
@@bestKaffir.underTheSon you are ignoring your own bible contradicts and pointing out the Qur'an Wait I'll answer you Read from 1 verse before and you will get your answer it's that simple. This is when on day of judgement Allah will ask isa a.s Isa a.s will also ultimately die. This is what happens when you take contradictions from islamophobes Any other so called contradiction?
@sophiabrown97472 жыл бұрын
Well a lot of things get suppressed in the quran take for example the breastfeeding chapter is missing
@moji38636 ай бұрын
Read Surah Al-Baqarah (Chapter 2), Verse 233.
@jdiaz70682 жыл бұрын
Ibn Masud had only 111 chapters in his Quran, ibn Kab had 116, whereas Uthman’s codex contained 114 surahs!
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
Its funny that Christians cant show a different Quran only different dialects but we can show them missing verses and added verses from the bible😂
@BrotherInChristDK2 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 we don’t claim a perfect Bible but all those bibles you have are going to say Jesus died on the cross and came back to life unlike the Quran
@kyourybus19862 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 Just answer this, is the Hafs Quran a dialectic copy of the Warsh Quran, or is the Warsh Quran a dialectic copy of the Hafs Quran and which Quran is the one on the tablet of allah.
@bigfan24522 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 yes, we can show Muslims that entire surahs went missing from the Quran. A verse regarding stoning and adult br☆st suckling went missing.
@thewordistheonlytruth87842 жыл бұрын
@@BrotherInChristDK we can proof that the quran Is not from mohammad time 80 precent is christian and jew secterian material before mohamad.
@fromjulian2 жыл бұрын
So scholars/sheiks have always known that the claim to 'perfect preservation, all Qurans the same, the world over, since the time of Muhammad' is false. What I was told, and what was written in the booklets given to me, by dawah folk was lies! Why did it take Hatun & Jay Smith showing differences in todays Qurans to get them to admit the truth? About what other things have the imams and dawah folk lied to us?
@alonzoharris67302 жыл бұрын
Hatun believes in three gods.
@avalancheofapostasy49162 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse they knew, but they wanted to be good muslims and the only way to do that is to lie and decieve everyone including their own.
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
When a secret has been discovered, the option can be to admit that it is true, or to make up another secret to hide the truth again. It is always best to keep the critics away and the fellow believers away so that one can have a clear mind and process information to come to a clear conclusion. Don't take Hatun or Jay's word, neither take Yasir Qadhi or Shabir Ally's word, convince yourself by your own investigation. At judgment day, neither Yasir Qadhi or Jay Smith will be answering for you, you will account for yourself.
@neilsavage89152 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 Hallo Polly.
@ankur77732 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 😁😁😃
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
Look also at the channel "Variant Quran" by Dr. Brubaker. He shows many early 8th century Quranic mss with variants in the text.
@bashhau3 ай бұрын
@theastronomer5800 text is just a means of passing information. As long as the interpretation aligns with the original data, you can call it a variant. I mean, right now, we're communicating, but the message would have been the same if i had sent you a hard copy or an audio.
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
Here is just one variant that shows a clear contradiction: In 17:102, the Hafs says "you" (Pharaoh) but Ibn Khaaled or al-Kisai says "I" (Moses). These give a very different meaning, is it Moses who knows, or the Pharaoh? Al-Jalalayn mentions this variant in his tafsir: He [Moses] said, ‘Indeed you know that none revealed these... (a variant reading [for ‘alimta, ‘you know’] has ‘alimtu [‘I know’]); al-Tabari, writing before the canonization of the different readings, rejected some which he argued were not correct, yet, they were later canonized!
@eddiegeijn99652 жыл бұрын
Just read the Torah, it is the source of God anyway
@swervo2.0372 жыл бұрын
Same text different recitation.There are Various types of recitation when it comes to the Quran.All of them have the same meaning. This Quran has been memorized by how many millions of Muslim, recited in the same way by all Muslims. The Verse you are referring to actually starts with “قال” Meaning, he said. He is who “Moses”, so even if in that version it was “I” it still doesn’t change the meaning because it’s still referring to Moses.
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
@@eddiegeijn9965 It's a man-made book based on local myths, and contains a bit too much violence for my liking!
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
@@swervo2.037 Hi. Thanks for the explanation. I understand that it's Moses who is doing the speaking, however, in one he says I and in the other he says you... They don't have the same meaning, how? I in Hafs we read "[Moses] said, You have already known" [Sahih Int]. From what I understand, in al-Kisai's reading, Moses said to Pharaoh, “I have known”. How does "I" (Moses) mean "you"? I don't know Arabic, I'm just going by what Islamic translators who know classical Arabic say. The scholar Al-Farrāʼ records that the “I have known” variant is attributed to ʿAlī, who is narrated as saying, “By God, what the enemy of God knows, Musa knows!”. This is not the only case in the Quran where ʿAlī reportedly disagreed with a majority reading, according to Al-Farrāʼ. There seems to be many instances where you have you/they, he/it, we/he, I/he... To me (and I would assume most other people who understand grammar), these give different meanings, no? The number of people memorizing a book today has little to do with these variants. If you look at the most ancient manuscripts there are numerous variants (most scribal errors, like in any ancient texts), and we know that oral traditions are not 100% accurate. There are many stories in the Quran that repeat but with different (and contradictory) details, these are signs of different streams of transmission. One of the reasons that Uthman wanted to collect the Quran was because people started to vary on the verses, so already only a few decades after there were issues (as to be expected). And the sahih hadiths lists the sources, all written, and the hearts of men at the end - it does not say right away that they simply sat down and recited the Quran from their perfect memories, such a view didn't exist in early Islam. Would you claim that today's Quran goes back 100% to Muhammad? I don't see how that is historically likely if you study oral cultures and manuscripts.
@avalancheofapostasy49162 жыл бұрын
Shabir starts by saying they parroted...lol. As he is parroting...🤣 Shabir has no choice to say what he is saying. There is so much evidence that the quran is fake and certainly not preserved thanks to you and other Christian channels. GOD BLESS YOU ALL...🙏🙏🙏 Soon they will stop using the hadiths all together because they have been exposed as rags worth nothing.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
Its funny that Christians can't show a different Quran only show a different dialects but we can show Christian's many different bibles with missing verses and added verses
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 What do you mean? Have you ever bothered to look into sources that list the numerous variants? Just as one example, in 17:102, the Hafs Quran says "you" (Pharaoh) but the Ibn Khaaled or al-Kisai Qurans say "I" (Moses). These give a very different meaning, is it Moses who knows, or the Pharaoh? Al-Jalalayn mentions this variant in his tafsir: He [Moses] said, ‘Indeed you know that none revealed these... (a variant reading [for ‘alimta, ‘you know’] has ‘alimtu [‘I know’]); al-Tabari, writing before the canonization of the different readings, rejected some which he argued were not correct, yet, they were later canonized!
@avalancheofapostasy49162 жыл бұрын
@@theastronomer5800 Pay no attention to that dumb dumb general jg.. He is a troll who spits out ridiculous comments that have absolutely no bearing on anything other than childish ideas. Save you replies for someone who is worthy of you ideas.
@avalancheofapostasy49162 жыл бұрын
@@theastronomer5800 Over 42 variants of the quran now discovered.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
@@jooo7011 the Christian human God speaks to himself in third person may the romans be upon him
@SohoKnights2 жыл бұрын
Explain why 37 different qurans were taken to Speakers Corner and Verified by Arab speakers that they were different
@Mowasnotaprophet12 күн бұрын
Even if the Qur'an has been preserved, why does that prove that it came from God and that Muhammad is a true prophet?
@elroivision2 жыл бұрын
THIS MAN IS SUFFERING, ... ALL HIS SCHOLARLY WISDOM IS BEING WASTED IN IS.LAM... SO SORRY FOR HIM... HE MUST WATCH HIS BACK... APOSTASY PUNISHMENT... HE JUST SAID THE QURAN IS CORRUPTED.
@BogartFan0012 жыл бұрын
This poor Muslim scholar has placed himself in a very precarious position. Life maybe increasingly fleeting for him. Furthermore, he seems to shake his head “No” as he pays lip service to Quranic purists. Sir, please consider Y’shua’s invitation… Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Rev 3:20)
@rafayshakeel48122 жыл бұрын
The Bible is not a reliable source of information, so you quoting the bible won't help you in any way. You're basing your salvation on a book that is filled with contradictions and errors.
@albusai2 жыл бұрын
@@rafayshakeel4812 😂 he is not a Muslim.
@rafayshakeel48122 жыл бұрын
@@albusai I'm aware of that, brother!
@darsom27172 жыл бұрын
@BogartFan may I ask please, who is Y'shua?
@BogartFan0012 жыл бұрын
@@darsom2717 May I suggest you read the gospel of John, and His identity you will discover.
@AI-dc3zo2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, Shabir Ali has to agree at the end, that their book is preserved, even after dismissing that claim, in order to keep his head on his neck.
@GodIsLove10152 жыл бұрын
Qur'an Is Corrupted And Not Preserved. 👇 Qur'an Sura 3:54 and Sura 8:30 Allah is the Best of Deceivers..planners.
@darsom27172 жыл бұрын
Shabir is prone to lying for his religion, always has been, his early debates with Dr David Wood will reveal this to anyone, it's a pity
@GodIsLove10152 жыл бұрын
@@darsom2717 1. Shabir Ally 2. Zakir Naik 3. Uthman Ibn Farook = The Islamic Taquiya Trinity. 👇 AND a Dead Taquiya Extra = Ahmed Deedat.
@darsom27172 жыл бұрын
@@GodIsLove1015 spot on 👍
@Raziq.D Жыл бұрын
@@darsom2717 wym
@ihearttubing2 жыл бұрын
Islam is collapsing under the shining light of truth and righteous ridicule. This cannot be stopped or reversed. It is for an ignorant isolated people.
@frost74902 жыл бұрын
Whatever is built on lies cannot last. The truth will live forever.
@lukesusilo21122 жыл бұрын
we have holes in the narratives and we're proud of that
@gothicguy21382 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@umarsyed75382 жыл бұрын
No holes. Don't celebrate prematurely. Check out the original interview.
@gothicguy21382 жыл бұрын
@@umarsyed7538 Sorry sir, we will not. This clip is more than enough giving the outrageous claim the Quran of itself of not having an error.
@gwin84632 жыл бұрын
In Ali dawah's voice 😂😂😂
@bobfisher19092 жыл бұрын
Lol, after admitting its been changed he still thinks its the same. Ask me this way back in 1924 in Cairo school students were giving different answers to the questions as they brought with them their own copy of the Quran from home, and it made them to take action and canonize the Hafs Quran so all the students there called read the same text, then they took all the other books from the school students and sunk them in the Nile. So if they are the same word for word why did they need to sink them? Also they had to unite the world with one text back in 1984 by authorise everyone to follow the Hafs Quran also, bar those in Africa who still read Warsh
@MrBanana2000 Жыл бұрын
Your disingenuousness blinds you if you think the 7 styles of reciting the Quran came after the prophet Muhammed (SAW).
@Chris-wr9hv7 ай бұрын
Now we have the year 2024. Congratulations to 100 year Quran!
@SQUID125 ай бұрын
You do realise that Hafs wash are all recitations that are taught by prophet muhammad pbuh himself, also the orignal Quran recitation is hafs as it's in Quraysh dialect, it's way better compared to Bible which has verses missing in many versions
@livingmanna6272 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Shabir Ally , for being more honest.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
We know that theres a missing verses and added verses in the bible let alone the pagan origins of the trinity
@Massiah822 жыл бұрын
Classic Response… the Ole Tu Quoque Fallacy! Lol! Maybe try answering the challenge at hand before slinging mud - you know just for a change.
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 I'm not Christian, but keep in mind that a few added verses (like the long ending of Mark) does not change the Christian theology. Also, Christians never make a claim that the Bible is word for word, it is simply an account of people based on oral traditions. The idea of the Trinity is just their way of understanding which took time to develop, I don't agree with it, but you can defend it based on the texts. The Quran talks of the spirit for example, which is some part of Allah, so you could argue that Muslims have 2/3 of the Trinity.
@trinitymatrix97192 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373bye bye "preserved quran" 😂🤣😂🤣
@Christian-Roots8182 жыл бұрын
He is being honest because it’s Not Easy to defend a Lie ! A Complete man-made make-believe Fake Fairytale of a Religion !
@joewise16772 жыл бұрын
The beginning of the end of Islam.
@w2aqaqa3862 жыл бұрын
Adnan Rashid - "there are pages missing" Mansur "there are scribal errors" Mohammad hijab " the quran has not been preserved" Yasir qadhi " there are holes in the narrative
@umibrahimibrahim49662 жыл бұрын
Lier lier
@ghaith319 ай бұрын
Variations I.e Ahruf and Qira’at (different styles of reading), and all of these *are* the Quran. No contradiction at all. Mentioned in the Hadith that The Quran has been revealed on 7 ahruf. Also in terms of the Uthmanic manuscript etc and those that say “what came before it?”, what came before it is the same as it today, except that the ummah of Islam is an ummah of memorization, and not of papyri copies and writing down, and this is known among the Arabs regarding their profound memorization skills when it comes to poetry which was their specialty etc. All in all, even if all Quran were burned today, it wouldn’t matter as within less than a day will the Muslim ummah print a new copy, as it is memorized by hundreds of millions today, same as how it was memorized by Muslims back at the time of The Prophet عليه الصلاة والسلام. And, as a testimony of that is the chain of narrators going back To The Prophet عليه الصلاة والسلام.
@Medo-q3c2 ай бұрын
Tako je! Allah swt je obecao sacuvati Qur'an do Sudnjeg Dana! Shabir Ally nije musliman, on je otpadnik, jer je zanijekao Allahov govor, a ko zanijece samo jedan hafr ( jedno slovo ), otpao je od vjere - islama! Allah ga uputio! Zalutao je duboko!
@Joshua_One_Nine2 жыл бұрын
Without Lies Islam Dies!
@Albai23906 ай бұрын
Wow. Straight at you
@bestshorts37753 ай бұрын
People are accepting Islam every day. So what are you talking about 😂
@Joshua_One_Nine3 ай бұрын
@bestshorts3775 (Revealations 12:9) And the great dragon was cast out that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world.
@bestshorts37753 ай бұрын
@@Joshua_One_Nine Brother, the Qur’an mentions that the sun has an orbit. Honestly, who could have known this 1,400 years ago except the One who created it? Brother, I urge you to think for yourself. Don’t blindly follow anyone. Ask yourself these questions: Did Jesus actually claim to be God? Is Christianity truly the path to truth? Why is Islam entering every household? These questions will lead you to research, and if you approach this with an open mind, listening to no one but your own reason, In shaa Allah, you will find the truth. I sincerely hope that we meet in paradise. The choice to choose is yours!
@bestshorts37753 ай бұрын
@@Joshua_One_Nine Brother, the Qur’an mentions that the sun has an orbit. Honestly, who could have known this 1,400 years ago except the One who created it? Brother, I urge you to think for yourself. Don’t blindly follow anyone. Ask yourself these questions: Did Jesus actually claim to be God? Is Christianity truly the path to truth? Why is Islam entering every household? These questions will lead you to research, and if you approach this with an open mind, listening to no one but your own reason, In shaa Allah, you will find the truth. I sincerely hope that we meet in paradise.
@Derek_Baumgartner2 жыл бұрын
Hm: almost like there's holes in the standard narrative about the preservation of the Qu'ran.
@youwhat4912 жыл бұрын
which guillible person took this heavily edited and mangled video seriously
@sleepwalker77552 жыл бұрын
Hatun loves Muslims. But Jesus loves them more. Now, with evidence like this, Muslims can turn to the perfect 1 true God.
@BillyAlogaАй бұрын
I pray Dr. Sabir repents and debate muslims
@ngobijerry46072 жыл бұрын
The truth is only found in Christ. Thanks DCCI for the good 😂
@rafayshakeel48122 жыл бұрын
Jesus عليه السلام never claimed to be God.
@ngobijerry46072 жыл бұрын
@@rafayshakeel4812 when you are born and brought up in a cult that denies the obvious truth, then you have no hope at all.
@rafayshakeel48122 жыл бұрын
@@ngobijerry4607 Well, that's ironic. I'm not the one who believes in 3 Gods, that's your nonsense. Jesus عليه السلام was only a messenger of Allah (ﷻ), nothing more, nothing less. How can the creator of All things become his creation and die? Can God die? Do you guys even listen to yourself when you speak? Pathetic!
@ngobijerry46072 жыл бұрын
@@rafayshakeel4812 The day you learn that cutting off people's necks and forceful conversions is wickedness and backward then you will understand the Trinity.
@spicyshizz28502 жыл бұрын
Lmao another brainwashed folk 🤣 Can you give be the best evidence you have? Also why do u believe? Peter 3:15
@Carl007Jr2 жыл бұрын
Yet he doesn't give a single example in this video, because DCCI completely picked and chose from his video. There are no corrupted versions of the Quran. Any mosque you go to, language you'll speak the Quran in, it's all the same. Unlike the Bible, which changes constantly, where christians disagree on how many books are in the bible, depending on the sect.
@SahitDagani2 жыл бұрын
So they themselves know it's not preserved, yet they falsely brag it's preserved, hypothetical liars!
@silverltc27292 жыл бұрын
It isn't a lie to them, you have to realise their mind set. I have a lesson for you Sahit. Taqiyya is for Shia, Muda'rat is for Sunni. They are both tactical deceit for the purpose of spreading Islam. Kitman is deceit by omission Tawriya is deceit by deliberate ambiguity Daruna is the deceit through necessity (to engage in something haram to exploit non-muslims) Taysir deceit through facilitation (I.e making things easier: telling a revert they can still drink alcohol until they are ready) Muruna is flexibility or temporary suspension of Shariah, making Muslims appear moderate until numbers are high enough to enforce Shariah.
@bigfan24522 жыл бұрын
Their are holes in the standard narrative. The Quran is corrupt and therefore it is unreliable and historically inaccurate. I love ❤️ this video by Hatun Tash.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
The bible is full of errors and contradictions let alone the pagan origin of the trinity
@bigfan24522 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 The same case with the Quran. Full of errors, mistakes, historically false and it is pagan. The kissing, throwing stones is a pagan ritual not a Jewish tradition.
@hellenwanjiru79652 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 The Bible doesn't allow grown up man to marry six year old girl.
@tboss66892 жыл бұрын
the Quran is full of contradictions
@ankur77732 жыл бұрын
🤔AVIDENCE IS HARAM IN ISLAM
@g-skillz-southafrica87887 ай бұрын
Thats not true
@tboss66897 ай бұрын
@@g-skillz-southafrica8788 wanna bet ? lots of errors and contradictions
@g-skillz-southafrica87887 ай бұрын
@@tboss6689 There are none.
@tboss66897 ай бұрын
@@g-skillz-southafrica8788 WANNA BET ? There are many errors and contradictions in the Quran, most scholars agree
@StevenPongolani-pp9by6 ай бұрын
Shabil is wise than other Muslims scholars because I can see that he is neutral in some situations
@isaacleillhikar45662 жыл бұрын
Its most Amazing to me there were people in North Africa who believed this. Theres a different Kiraat, Qaloun, in Tunisia and Lybia, and Warsh in Algeria and Moroco !
@okch4m4 ай бұрын
So when a black guy says "aks" instead of "ask", he's now speaking another language and different? yeah right
@dollahmusa67052 жыл бұрын
They was No koran at the time of muhammad...how many person change the koran already....where got dot by dot preserved...holes in the narrative....
@samiaziz52 жыл бұрын
Where is Muhammad's Quran.. Where is the Uthman Queresh Quran .. Who wrote Hafs and Warsh Quran..
@nejiskafir81982 жыл бұрын
I keep getting answers that the differences are explained by the Ahruf and Qiraat. Since there is supposed to be 7 ahruf, I ask them to show me the seven. No one answers. They deflect or disappear.
@alcaponedarius77302 жыл бұрын
Shabir Alli is the only Muslim scholar who comes to sense sometimes 😌…
@Cal-smith70262 жыл бұрын
hes doing damage control because thanks to the internet they can no longer lie to people
@kirinsama2959 Жыл бұрын
Just when Shabir was about to answer the question about preservation THEY CUT THE VIDEO SHORT. Unbelievable the dishonesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@rickflash91 Жыл бұрын
He is not a scholar what are you talking about?
@servantsofchristph87006 ай бұрын
Uthman the original Quran burner
@ashokbhyrodoyal54942 жыл бұрын
God bless. What the use of having a book being word for word and leterr by letter, etc being preserved yet the teachings are contradictory and evil by killing the kufar.
@YouTubemainul Жыл бұрын
You cutting lecture here and there, misrepresentation of his knowledge
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
The reason I do not trust nor quote scholars is because they are human, and they can make mistakes. They will deliberately send out wrong information to please whomever they are agreeing with, or whomever has the deepest pockets. Humans are fallible.
@alonzoharris67302 жыл бұрын
Why do you trust the bible? It's written by humans.
@albukharisss2 жыл бұрын
i dont get it whats the contradiction, uthman were the companion of the Prophet (pbuh) and there were hundread of people who memorized the quran at that time. Uthman gatherd all the memorizers and wrote what was common in all of them. the majority agreed it to be the exact same as the one the Prophet (pbuh) told. and sanna the text written on the top menaing the correceted text matches the moder quran word by word, why are you giving value to something that was removed by the same perrson wrtting that tablet over something he corrected?
@eltrillionaire-395 Жыл бұрын
Why cut the scenes instead o showing everything he said. You are intentionally showing what you want to show. Exposed.
@A25yuub8 ай бұрын
Where is the original
@tbone81192 жыл бұрын
Very good. Every Muslims should watch this....
@bashhau3 ай бұрын
@tbone8119 we did, but the whole video. You should watch it too
@RJ-fg8kw2 жыл бұрын
The sequence of the Quran or the Order of Narration is a problem in and of itself. If this book is from Allah, why isn't the order of narration preserved. Why are people messing with it? Couldn't Allah keep the timeline straight? The Order of Narration is bid'a. With the San'a Palimsest, Allah changed his mind apparently and erased his first draft and wrote over it. Finally, one has to ask whether anything was preserved. There is no pre-Uthmanic Quran out there. C'mon, Allah!
@micheal74rich2 жыл бұрын
If one were to remove words or add words into the Quran, then Quran checksum would collapses and entire Quran is multiple of 19. People can like about Quran specially the Christians but numbers do not like and numbers cannot lie.
@raphaeldeleon59532 жыл бұрын
Shabir Ali just said multiple times that the Quran has NOT BEEN PRESERVED. Then when asked a direct question about whether the present day Quran has been preserved, he says yes it has. NOTE This man Shabir Ali is considered one of the scholars of Islam.
@Seker-kiz-candy-z8k Жыл бұрын
What do you wanna say? He said nowadays quran is preserved yes its true isnt it? Problem is the first revelation is being lost
@afghanii3275 Жыл бұрын
@@Seker-kiz-candy-z8klisten brother I know your trying to defend the religon but don’t speak without knowledge, the first revelation is still here all the Qurans are the same a variation is a difference for example if I have a shirt a different variation would be a different color the shirt is the same just a different variation
@Mannequeer Жыл бұрын
@@afghanii3275 the word "same" means identical. A different variation of an item does not make it the same. If you and I had a shirt with the same graphic (no variation) I would say "I have that shirt in a different colour", not "I have the same shirt in a different colour" because the two shirts are not the same, only the graphic is the same.
@omar-1_11 ай бұрын
Muslim scholars? Lie and believe your lie
@afghanii327511 ай бұрын
@@Mannequeer but it’s the same shirt whether it’s black or green or white or red Lmaoo listen the difference of variations is only the pronounciation the ROOT word of the word stays the same for example in one variation the word will say “muu” while another variation will say “moo” the root word is the same just the dialect is different just like in uk 🇬🇧 they speak English a certain way and in America we speak English a different way. Now when it comes to the Bible it’s not like that at all, you have whole statements and verses missing or a whole word is changed in this verse, now with the Quran it’s never ever like that. Hope that gave you some clarity :)
@tomwellington42552 жыл бұрын
These are rats jumping a sinking ship. It has become very clear to folk like Shabir Ally that the position of a perfectly preserved Quran is indefensible.
@RJ-fg8kw2 жыл бұрын
Ibn Footnote is the ultimate scholar, isn't he? His reputation as a scholar is stellar. I'd say that he is on par with Hafs. His grasp of Arabic is breathtaking, as much as Aishya's hyperventilation when she was told at age 6 that she was going to have a sex contract (nikah) with the "prophet" MHMD PBUH SAW (To be said like the Apostate Prophet). Sorry, not "breathe heavy," but "menstruate."
@dannypantom35366 ай бұрын
When you have a honest Muslim being honest that’s what I respect 🫡
@theastronomer58005 ай бұрын
Yes, Dr. Ally is one of the very few that I can actually listen to with respect.
@ancadan99357 ай бұрын
My experience was that the Muslim knew that the perfect preservation argument is false but still approached me with the lie. When I debunked his lie he went all "you re smart, you re knowledgeable, you re brilliant!" I was confused...
@sophiabrown97472 жыл бұрын
1:58 the size of ears👂 tho. you would think he would be a good listener. How many times he heard that the Quran is corrupt.
@auxilliamachavangu51052 жыл бұрын
All these Muslims including Shabir Ally used to say word for word But they're less/ no longer mention it THANKSaLOT Hatun,Jay ,CP & the team
@SohoKnights2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@RJ-fg8kw2 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. Did Shabir call Yasir Qadhi a parrot? According to Yasir Qadhi, claiming that Quran was perfectly preserved is fine when speaking to the ignorant masses. In upper level courses that this scholar teaches, of course they tell it like it is and unmask the real truth. When speaking with Mimi Hijab, he explained that we don't talk about those kinds of things in public. According to Yasir Qadhi, pay your tuition and get your top secret clearance and then you'll be deep diving like a scuba diver into all the holes of the Islamic narrative. No scuba club out there has enough oxygen to get through semester.
@mo_53_married_aisha_62 жыл бұрын
The standard narrative has more holes in it than a cheese factory. 🏭 🧀
@MrNazarester2 жыл бұрын
While each Muslim remains faithful to his cultural Religion (others including Christians, Hindus Budhists and even Maoists etc) the bottom line remains "WHO IS YESHUA? (Jesus). The same Person who "divided" history ( AD/BC ) Who made certain claims about Himself, which got Him in trouble, and who was sentenced to death? He is NOT ( and cannot be) defined by us "fallen" humans with rebellious sin " virus" He ( YESHUA) reveals Himself individually to anyone who is sincere, and dedicated, besides honest. It's not a "metaphysical matter" rather a personal one.Simply thst He lives! He DEFEATED death and hell! It's a matter of choice!
@sheikhboyardee5562 жыл бұрын
Of course it's not preserved. Anyone can see that. He is just being honest about the Quran. How many different Qurans are we up to? 30 or so, I did hear 36 once. All different with thousands of differences. Some are minor but many are very substantial differences.
@nativetube Жыл бұрын
Says the guy with a profile pic of a cult movie, you obviously never been able to read quran in arabic language
@waymilky442 Жыл бұрын
One Quran!
@sheikhboyardee556 Жыл бұрын
@@waymilky442 Which one are you going to choose? You have many choices.
@shakazulu82542 жыл бұрын
The truth always come out no matter when
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
And the truth is not christianity imagine believing god was a baby for 9 months and he has a mother
@shakazulu82542 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 What's thz meaning of almighty? You human can tell god how he should presented himself?
@johnzuma468811 ай бұрын
@@generaljg4373 So your allah is not capable of sending his word to us as a human being? Not much of a god if he cannot even do that. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day? And if not, where does that leave you?
@DavidCrichton-r7x4 ай бұрын
STANDARD ISLAM NARRATIVE = SIN
@ibelongtojesus03162 жыл бұрын
Cult that keeps on giving and giving and giving and giving and giving..... but it's all hogwash and well preserved, the lies and all. Oh how I love Jesus. He gave the best - Himself. We need Jesus...
@hellocanadavlog436127 күн бұрын
What the full video. This is a cut video. He said the Quran is 100% Preserved.
@Christian-Roots8182 жыл бұрын
“ Word for Word, Letter for Letter “ What a Complete Joke haha 😆
@trinitymatrix97192 жыл бұрын
Just have to ask: do u use authentic photo of urself? 🤗
@trinitymatrix97192 жыл бұрын
Its def. a joke 😂
@aaronguno3257 Жыл бұрын
Can i have the link of this full intervew video of Shabir,?
@sentinal23432 жыл бұрын
Explains the variations then declares its STILL from GOD! ha ha , R.I.P Islam!!
@bobomar52899 ай бұрын
Haha nice try chopping the video. Yes quran has been preserved by allah. Quran was revealed in many different dialects of different arab tribes, what Othmane did is he cancelled all other dialect and kept the qureishi dialect because non arabs converting to islam were confused, so he decided to keep one version and he got unanimous support from all companions on that matter.
@hollaatme87379 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@morgankibet94276 ай бұрын
I am sorry that you have been deceived
@chiaratiara25752 жыл бұрын
It never grows old! Good for Shabir Ally.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
In christianity God was a baby for 9 months and the bible has many errors and contradictions
@temporaryaccount53072 жыл бұрын
Good for Shabir ally? Have u ever stopped to listen to him? He’s as much of a cherry picking clown than the rest! Completely disregarding what his Q says (like they ALL do), he makes stuff up as he goes bc some “scholar” said this 900 yrs ago. The prob is that another “scholar” said that 1000 yrs ago and neither is what the Q says.
@mohammedwhylie92242 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 the father send his son, who died for your sins, (to make it easier for you to enter heaven) then the holy spirit was send to humanity, to guide us here on earth....THEN SATAN (Jibril) reacted and terrorised a man (mohammed), feeding him lies telling him that Jesus didnt die for mens sins, and Mohammed terrorized men to blindly believe Satans lies
@chiaratiara25752 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 It would be good if you made a serious effort to understand the Bible, instead of dissing God at your own risk. Maybe you've got Him all wrong and you need to find that out.
@kamekameha7212 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedwhylie9224 this general is just a troll,he put out some comments but never dare to answer any questions!!!
@indigatorveritatis2192 жыл бұрын
Even IF it were preserved, it's still a garbage book
@jackthisout94802 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that they claim that not even a dot was changed. Technically that is true, with the obvious error in the reasoning: dotting did not exist at the time the quran was supposedly written.
@IamTheLight854 Жыл бұрын
Severe standard islamic narration losses
@wandering_circles74872 жыл бұрын
This is why Shabir Ally is the only islamic scholar that I respect.
@kamekameha7212 жыл бұрын
What about sheikh Imran Hosein??
@YasKaProducts9 ай бұрын
Can anyone write here the "Mark, Matthew, Luke, John" versions of the Quran?
@reubenahn8020 Жыл бұрын
I love Dr Shabir Ally, I’ve been interested in potentially converting to a Muslim as an atheist and he really puts my heart at ease. Even if you are religious you can’t turn a blind eye to facts. If you choose to believe with your heart closed off to question and doubt, you are no less close-minded than an atheist. Science and religion CAN co-exist
@_a_v_j11 ай бұрын
What about Christianity, bro? If you'd like we can talk abt the gospel of Jesus Christ
@johnzuma468811 ай бұрын
So which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? And how do you deal with all the mistakes and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day my friend? And remember on judgement day there will be ONLY heaven where GOD is or the other place, so where does that leave you my friend?
@mohamedkaddouri9622 Жыл бұрын
Did you listen to his whole interview instead of taking out snipets out of context 😂 ?
@swissapologetics2 жыл бұрын
Islam is a bunch of lies. Thank you sister
@rossmac87432 жыл бұрын
which koran is the one?
@tbishop49612 жыл бұрын
This was good...
@bugatti99vun Жыл бұрын
Hey, can i put this in my tiktok platform. This is good stuff brother 😊
@biagiomaffettone1497 Жыл бұрын
All Muslims, Here is what a Muslim Scholar has to say about the preservation of the Quran. If you have an open mind and or not scared.. Search KZbin for: *"Shabir Ally: "Quran Is Not Preserved!" Ft Mohammad Hijab, Yasir Qadhi, Uthman ibn Farooq"*
@umersiddiqui94552 жыл бұрын
excellent video
@johnolaoluwa2 жыл бұрын
Deluded Islamic preachers at the Speakers's Corner is always laughable and comical. Well done to Dr Shabir Ally for being publicy honest on this subject. .... We need to pray for him to become born again! With God ALL things are possible.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
One Quran different dialect but there's many different bibles with missing verses and added verses that's a fact
@trinitymatrix97192 жыл бұрын
Nope, different words, completely different meanings. boom, there blows your "perfectly preserved" quran up in the smoke 😂😂😂🤣
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
@H K Phooey according to christianity plants were created before the sun that's the planet I live in
@trinitymatrix97192 жыл бұрын
30+ different original arabic qurans- many variations changes and fabrications within the same dialects....funny u still get up with this last desperate attempt to defend the horribly bad argument that quran was preserved when quran itself scream and shout its not...😂🤣😂😂😂
@morgankibet94276 ай бұрын
@@generaljg4373 According to islam muhammad flew with a donkey
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
96:1 READ IN THE name of your Lord who created, Speaking of preservation, what was Muhammad supposed to read? Where is the document/manuscript he was supposed to read? Wasn't Muhammad "illiterate" or not? Didn't the one asking him to read know that he could not read? Who wrote this chapter???
@islamicconscienceandunders56222 жыл бұрын
Iqra means recite not read..
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
@@islamicconscienceandunders5622 ٱقْرَ Yeah right...you will only lie to the ignorant. Narrated Aisha: The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in the form of true dreams. The Angel came to him and said, "Read, in the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists), has created man a clot. Read! And your Lord is Most Generous" ..(96.1,2,3) "Iqraa" the question again...or call Aisha a liar. Your choice.
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
@@islamicconscienceandunders5622 Narrated `Aisha: The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet (ﷺ) added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous...up to..... ..that which he knew not." (96.15) Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamityafflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin `Abdul `Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet (ﷺ) described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet (ﷺ) became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn `Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night). According to Aisha's report, did the prophet say "I cannot read" or did he say "I cannot recite"???
@alonzoharris67302 жыл бұрын
@@solascriptura1536 Iqra means to recite. Even today in Arabic a teacher will ask the student Iqra to recite. Even today Iqra means to recite. You just listen and learn. I will teach you in both Islam and Christianity.
@solascriptura15362 жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris6730 LLLLLLIIIIIIAAAARRRR!!! Are you calling Aisha a liar??? Narrated Aisha: The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in the form of true dreams. The Angel came to him and said, "Read, in the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists), has created man a clot. Read! And your Lord is Most Generous" ..(96.1,2,3 Congratulations!!! You just called Muhammad and his child bride LIARS!!! I ask again...what was Muhammad supposed to read???
@673-t32 жыл бұрын
[Quran 15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it. [Quran 56:77-80] This is an honorable Quran. In a protected book. None can grasp it except the sincere. A revelation from the Lord of the universe. [Quran 85:21-22] Indeed, it is a glorious Quran. In a preserved master tablet.
@generaljg43732 жыл бұрын
One Quran different dialects Many different bibles with missing verses
@silverltc27292 жыл бұрын
Surah 12:111 says the Quran explains ALL things.
@silverltc27292 жыл бұрын
@@generaljg4373 you are missing the point. The Kalimatullah is the eternal, perfectly preserved Word of God that will intercede for you on Judgement day.
@theastronomer58002 жыл бұрын
In 17:102, the Hafs says "you" (Pharaoh) but Ibn Khaaled or al-Kisai says "I" (Moses). These give a very different meaning, is it Moses who knows, or the Pharaoh? Which is on the master tablet? Al-Jalalayn mentions this variant in his tafsir: He [Moses] said, ‘Indeed you know that none revealed these... (a variant reading [for ‘alimta, ‘you know’] has ‘alimtu [‘I know’]); al-Tabari, writing before the canonization of the different readings, rejected some which he argued were not correct, yet, they were later canonized!
@silverltc27292 жыл бұрын
@@theastronomer5800 I like the verse of 17:104 that claim the Bani Israel will be gathered up from around the world just before judgement day and dwell in the Holy Land. It proves that the Umma is wrong, or the Quran. But if the Quran is wrong, the Umma is pretty irrelevant.
@iankennedy14412 жыл бұрын
just shows u how dishonest the dawah team at speakers corner is
@daniel09dailey2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣that ending actually made me laugh out loud.
@kirinsama2959 Жыл бұрын
Just when Shabir was about to answer the question about preservation THEY CUT THE VIDEO SHORT. Unbelievable the dishonesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@inkyfingers34472 жыл бұрын
Wow! The cat is out of the bag! The Big Lie is finally exposed by one of their own. Everything they were taught their whole life was a big fat lie. Now he’s blaming Muslims for not believing the Christians when they showed the different Korans.
@snowwhitejustamemerizeroft38322 жыл бұрын
Pretending like the bible is preserved 😏
@blessing212 жыл бұрын
and you Muslims think koran is? when Mohammad came hundreds of years later with no witness, no miracle, and he was illiterate unlearned 😆🤣.
@morgankibet94276 ай бұрын
it is
@xClayofTheOmega3 ай бұрын
It is 😂. And we can prove it… 👉🏼There are over 5,600 manuscripts of the New Testament (Injeel) that have been discovered in various nations across the world where the Gospel was spread by the early church. They are 99.5% identical. Which is impossible to “forge” by a man made strategy since these were hand written, separate copies. They weren’t spread from a central source that GAVE those 5,600 copies. The 0.5% differences they have don’t change or alter ANY doctrine or core tenant of the Christian faith. They’re simply minor spelling differences and different spellings of names. You can look at the Masoretic text, Codex Vaticanus and several others with minimal research. 👉🏼 With only discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls we know the Torah/Old Testament before Jesus and after Jesus’s time ARE IDENTICAL to what we have in our Bibles today. 👉🏼 If you care about the truth, you’ll find it. If you want “your own truth” in ignorance, The Bible’s already described you. 👉🏼 Ephesians 4:18-21 “having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:” - WAKE UP
@alsolmo89932 жыл бұрын
Be careful to speaking to much Ally. Other muslims do not like it when some muslims speaks the truth for onces...