Shadow of War: ALL Nazgul Backstories (Shaming)

[@thepersonwithnolife774]

The most tragic fall was talions

[@princeali4157]

Can we talk about how Helm Hammerhand's daughter willingly got close to the man who almost killed her father?

[@tierban5803]

If you kill me you'll start a war. Dude you already started the war when you shot him full of arrows.

[@ElBandito]

Not really, cause the arrow assassination was done discreetly. The second fight was too open.

[@mr.turtle4574]

El Bandito while true if the guy died, he lived so it was definitely a declaration of war

[@Aereto]

mr. turtle In a sense, war began the moment he was shot full of arrows and got back up from it. His argument is invalid.

[@nathanielclaw2841]

David Amari Lets be honest, he was pulling shit out of his ass to not fight helm, even helm himself said war had already started.

[@joesteele8167]

Sauron does multitasking on a WHOLE NEW LEVEL

[@danielhollow6669]

V3nomous 7791 What's that?

[@khanhnguyen-tt3ff]

there should be like a few hundred year between each king, remember sauron is not even mortal, he is some kind of spirit and he dont give out ring to normal man it have to be great leader and king .

[@chrismaccool9097]

khanh nguyen do you know when he handed out the Rings to these Kings?

[@zxsSharpie]

Chris MacCool the first ring was given to the King was about 5000 years before the battle of Barad-dur which is the last mission of shadow of war to give you a timespan of how much this game disregarded the timeline, still dope game tho

[@chrismaccool9097]

Arthur Morgan so this was exaggerated like the recent Robin Hood movie was that Jamie Fox was in?

[@1YCARADOFACAO]

Pharazon? Helm? Isildur? This is madness! Whats next? Shelob being a hot lady?

[@jyryk4623]

Yago Albert wait wut. didn't notice that._. btw who is helm I forgot

[@1YCARADOFACAO]

Ya know Helms Deep? He made that shit in a war against the wild man that wanted his daughter. Hes the most bad ass king of Rohan.

[@jyryk4623]

Yago Albert righttt, did he also made the horn?

[@1YCARADOFACAO]

javier jaafar Im not sure. The nature of the horn is directly linked to the Rohirrim. Idk if Helm have anything to do with them

[@gaslar3328]

Nope, the Hornburg (that's the actual name of the forteress, Helm's Deep is the name of the valley it's in) was built by the numenoreans, and later, given to the rohirrim. The Hornburg had a big horn, and during the war against the Dunlendings, caused by somebody trying to force Helm to marry his daughter to him, during the siege of the Hornburg, each time the horn rang, Helm would make a sortie and totally wreck a good part of the dunlending's army (thus the symbolism of ringing it before going out against the orcs in LOTR) Helm Hammerhand died in the siege of the Hornburg by the Dunlendings, and the valley was then called "Helm's deep", and the horn took his name. If you want a glimpse as to why he was so utterly awesome, he was called "Hammerhand" because his favorite weapon was... well, none. He got around by punching people to death.

[@Hedonite]

Lore breaking ? Absolutely. Awesome? Hell yeah

[@lock376]

i cant help but feel if they wore better gauntlets they would stop having their fingers cut off at crucial moments

[@Readasaur]

Sauron was a magical blacksmith, which makes it all the more inexcusable that he has so many substandrd gauntlets.

[@hoo7797]

"If you kill me, you'll start a war." says the dude who shot the one King that looks like he might actually be Thor son of Odin and kidnapped his daughter.

[@conantheterrible9475]

So you can dominate and control a nazgul but when my follower betrays me he gets fucking iron will okay

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

For those of you confused this NOT meant to be Canon to the books it's meant to accompany the movies.

[@tylerellis9097]

Knight 77, contradicts the movies to.

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+Tyler Ellis it actually explains a lot. Like why the orcs waited so long to invade and why sauron is an eye on a tower.

[@tylerellis9097]

Knight 77, except Jackson had Sauron lose his body against isildur, and in books and movies like the orcs weren't sitting in mordor they were assaulting gondor in shadow of mordor gondor never knows war, heck they have minas ithil which isn't a thing in the movies and ostgilith is fine when it's a Siege down ruin, also never saw the eye glow blue in the movie also makes no sense why gladriel wouldn't bring it up in the movie saying as how celebrimbor made the rings, also no mention of the new ring which never actually does anything.

[@bigtroll8915]

Knight 77 Sauron is not the eye. The eye is basically an all seeing entity of Sauron, controlled by him. His physical body is still inside the tower of barad-dur, he's just diminished. Celebrimbor died in eregion anyway.

[@qurantino3624]

No Filler Gaming Knight it is not meant to be canon to the movies, it is just set in a very similar looking adaptation of the world. These games also contradicts the Hobbit movies. In the Hobbit movies we see all the Nazgûl and they are all given different names after where they came from. Weta workshop have named them all, and Helm Hammerhand is nowhere to be found.

[@blaze8529]

3:17 i love it when the voice actor of war from DS says this phrase "If you kill me, you'll start a war" It got stuck in my head so hard that i cannot forget about it

[@Србоћетнићкивојвода]

its gaara voice from naruto lol

[@blaze8529]

@@Србоћетнићкивојвода Also War from DarkSiders

[@thisiscoral]

It's Liam O'Brien, afterall.

[@rossmilner8904]

That dude who said "If you kill me youll start a war." sounded like Illidan Stormrage from WoW

[@Aereto]

Ross Milner He should have made a comeback by saying: "You nearly killed me. We ARE at war the moment you did that."

[@eliseorengelgarcia6364]

its Liam o'brian THE voice actor of illidan, tauriel is voiced by laura bailey the voice actor of jaina and the witchking is voiced by matthew mercer the voice actor for rexxar, if you really like them go and search for critical role highly reccomend it.

[@lock376]

Aereto that comebacks to wordy, war has come is much better in a thematic perspective

[@moscanaveia]

0:56 Sauron only ever humbled himself before Ar-Pharazôn. No one else. He had the means of appearing fair to anyone he wished before the Downfall of Númenor, and thus deceive them and corrupt them as he did in Númenor, but he opted never to do that, unless it be with foes that he couldn't conquer by fear or strength of war.

[@tello24]

1:25 Florence is in middle earth ??

[@kennethbrown8990]

That hammer is baddass

[@kennethbrown8990]

Yeah for some reason

[@dylanw9030]

CrossedStar no it was an accident, he swung at the guy she got in his way and it sent him into a rage

[@kennethbrown8990]

Dylan W dam you right

[@dylanw9030]

CrossedStar dosent mean he wanted to kill her

[@zodlord5669]

there are choices then there's the fact that the guy shot and tried to kill helm I mean really?

[@sethleoric2598]

6:20 what.. his plate armor actually.. works?!

[@spartan2000music]

The backstory of some of the nine nazgul is one of the few things about these games that make me sad they aren’t canon

[@filmboy95]

Isildur is a ring wraith wtf????

[@teroslarone1171]

Tommy Sutarno proof that he is cannon?

[@heraldstephacont9656]

Teros he's only canon in the games

[@axlknightwhosaysni5336]

No, it is just a bad game

[@goji253]

Though, in technicality, couldn't one consider this canon to the movies? They are separated from the books canon anyway, especially after Hobbit and so far, I don't think there are inconsistencies between the movies and games are there?

[@Astro4545]

Goji in the movies isildur died whilst in possession of the one ring. So no.

[@OrkosUA]

It appears that ar-pharazon, king of Numenor, became one of the nine as well by this game.

[@gorthaur3800]

In the game that nazgul is called Suladan.

[@OrkosUA]

Thanks!

[@217adaptiveperspective]

Tealion Wolfheart They named him that to avoid copyright with the Tolkien estate

[@gyulaszabo1639]

Boss Pepe i dont know much about "licensed" but it isnt canon. So they had to come up with a story that is compatible with canon, and doesnt change much. According to this, nazgul is a title, and if a nazgul dies there are always strong and proud men to replace them. Which doesnt change that much to be honest.

[@skollybob]

Wot do you mean by canon?

[@raf7305]

They could do a whole trilogy on just the Nazgul and their history. They should do another trilogy of Saurons backstory and where he disappeared to for thousands of years, morgoth story and others. There’s too much lol so amazing

[@johnt.6107]

The idea of isildur as one of the nine is an interresting thing, but there are two reasons why that couldnt happen. First it is said when isildur cut the ring of saurons finger there where allready nine ringwraiths. Second: In the Sillmarillion it is written that at the time Gollum took the ring into the misty mountains(so 2500 years from the death of isildur), Sauron found out where he died and let his orcs search the river Anduin, which prevented Saruman from searching the ring himself. So again a interresting idea, but they should at least read the novel before making these games. Nothing against the gameplay, grafics and music, but the story of these games insult every fan of the books. No need to answer.

[@andrew7955]

How bout we just say there are 10 and everytime they say "the nine", they mean not including the Witchking of Angmar, he is their master after all.

[@brennonwomble2439]

Andrew nope. The witch king is included in the 9

[@patrickbuerke1390]

John Thorson This game is an insult to Tolkien’s legacy.

[@Waristheonlyanswer]

Truthfully speaking they could have just used the already existing ones, like the witch king, Hamul the Black easterling and others.

[@teroslarone1171]

Andrew the fact that their were only nine rings of power mayed for men should give you a hint.

[@TheAntiTrope]

So Helm Hammerhand is basically an older version of Robert Baratheon in his prime. Right?

[@cold2966]

Kill father/No war But kill the guy Who tried to kill You=war

[@EyeBeZombie]

Can we all agree that these scenes were way more entertaining that the entire hobbit trilogy

[@phantomgaming2502]

if only talion didnt act all high and mighty i could have had a ringwraith on my side

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+phantom slayer I actually liked Talion because he acted high and mighty.

[@blakechandler167]

phantom slayer I found d it to be more like he didn't want anyone to suffer the fate of immortality as he did.

[@NeoCreo1]

Instead you get an army of ghosts.

[@lock376]

No offense but ive always thought of islidur as a jack ass and think of all the non-canon nazgul in the game he deserved it most for his hubris. So i had no problem dominating him

[@ralphlawrence5900]

Hammer dude is literaly a yound robert baratheon. Pretty much has antlers on his helmet as well

[@tomothy1625]

Ralph Lawrence this game totally destroyed helm hammerhand, he doesn’t become a nazgul and doesn’t kill everyone in a rage, he challenges that dude to a duel and kills him with a single punch (hammerhand, get it), the guy was a badass

[@lorewalkermaohao4602]

And none of them lore friendly!

[@lorewalkermaohao4602]

Plenty of people do. But you don't. Which is fine.

[@lorewalkermaohao4602]

Jesus Assassin A good idea! I like the games as well.

[@StevenSagerIsSuperEpic]

Lorewalker Maohao I hated that isildur was made a wraith. That was the final straw.

[@mudmikkelsen8867]

its blasphemy :)

[@rmshorty11]

Yeah, totally ignores that the 9 kings of men already had their rings before Sauron was slain the first time.

[@MegaAgamon]

Most of you are mad that the timelines don't fit for them to be ring wraiths since the 9 existed before Sauron's death. Well in this game nazgul-Isildur dies and Talon takes his ring and place. So they don't have to be the original nine. Perhaps every time Sauron loses a Ringwraith he puts that Nazgul's ring to someone else thus having 9

[@alexprior3677]

It's sad that most of the ringwraiths once stood against Sauron ☹

[@Jasonlovesmusic559]

The game creator know their lore well, so I have know idea why they would knowingly disregard obvious lore in some of their nazgul identity choices.

[@tayzadayzah6681]

Because they wanted to try something different, it's called creative freedom, get over it!

[@Lawor00]

@@tayzadayzah6681 now thats call it lazynies :-)

[@muntadar1655]

@@Lawor00 seems like you can't bother spelling laziness correctly either The irony

[@Garobie]

Sauron tried to help Isildur up but got his fingers sliced off 😔

[@ricardobeninca8356]

i don’t care if it is canon or not canon it’s a good game

[@ziobelle87]

No one noticed that the first Nazgul was italian?:-D You can see the Florence Chatedral after he puts the ring on...I'M NOT JOCKING!

[@ItsARandomEncounter]

Why the heck is Isildur a ringwraith? That makes even less sense than the Shelob sexy lady nonsense

[@wrestlingguy8722]

ItsARandomEncounter Well who is to say that the nine were always the same nine?

[@teroslarone1171]

the fact that sauron couldn‘t have given him the ring since his army was shattered and his physical form destroyed plus the fact that the only one who died befor the one ring was destroyed was the witch king.

[@ItsARandomEncounter]

Brad Willis the nine were corrupted before Sauron conquered MiddleEarth in the second age. After the war of the second age that ended with Isildur defeating Sauron all of Sauron's power was bound with the One Ring. It doesn't make sense that he would need the One Ring if he could bind anyone by them having a ring of power alone.

[@borneyesterday206]

You fucking people need to step back and realize this is neither a book nor a movie. It's a game. And it's not canon. Swallow your fucking pride and write it off as an alternate universe. BOOM. ALL YOUR LORE PROBLEMS SOLVED. Jesus fucking Christ have people learned nothing from games like the Force Unleashed?

[@ianbailey6592]

+Nova Tbf, Force unleashed was part of canon for a longtime. And there are a lot of people clamoring for it to become canon again. (Not m though)

[@Kamptyre]

I die a little inside when people assume this is canon. smh

[@amandag.6186]

And i die inside when someone complains it's not canon, that complaint is so overused it starting to second random crits in tf2

[@ErelasInglor]

Can't be more blasphemous to Tolkien's world and story than the way this game has portrayed his characters. Great art and work done but in the end such a sad fate to see Tolkien's characters used in ways that are completely incorrect to the story.

[@kapetanyakinthos3460]

Who cares deal with it

[@BonesMalon3]

the second one genuinely creeped me out

[@smilegabe]

Yup! As Celebrimbor said, Helm Hammerhand has the most tragic fate among all the Nazgul.

[@trickycm1040]

People are taking this games lore way too seriously, they never wanted it to be canon

[@smilegabe]

Thank You!

[@smilegabe]

ITz TRICKY I can already hear the Tolkien fan-babies crying.

[@ianbailey6592]

It's a good game, just not a good Lord of the Rings game.

[@paralusdivinprophetedupara8903]

Unkip i agree. They put the LOTR licence on it only to earn more money. They dont care about the lore. "Oh nianiania they ever told it was respectfull about the lore" so why bought a lotr licence ?

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

I'm a bit late here but I'm fairly certain that it was indeed meant to tie into the movies while ignoring the books. I personally don't find it lore breaking and think it fits into the lore fairly well. I really enjoyed this game.

[@thisura1000]

It's like they've taken a big steaming dump over the actual lore of Middle Earth

[@michaelyoung7171]

the second story is the most messed up one.

[@way2tehdawn]

I always imagined it was one for Umbar, Harad and Far Hard, Rhun, Khand, Angmar and some other kings we don't know about.

[@teroslarone1171]

way2tehdawn Angmar was practicly made by the the witch king and the during the war with arnor he gained the title witch king of angmar, we know one of the Khamul the easterling came from ruhn

[@LordMortanius]

The Lord of the Nazgul didn't come from Angmar. He founded it in the Third Age, but he himself was a Numenorean.

[@tristanhalbert5813]

*backstories

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

Tristan Halbert thanks

[@kjhammer120]

Only 3 of the 9 are in this game? Huh

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+kjhammer120 you only fight with three the rest appear occasionally in the background.

[@bryanmarkland5200]

Also, we only know the name of two.

[@MalarkyLad]

Well 4, there's the Witch King as well but he doesn't have one of these.

[@borneyesterday206]

MalarkyLad Which is actually really cool, especially with the line he says "Nothing of my soul remains."

[@ObiWanKenobi420]

@@MalarkyLad Well 5, cause the game is basically the backstory of a nazgul...

[@Cr1zza]

"You kill me, you start a war"... not that the guy shot him in the first place :D

[@utkarsh1989]

There should be more nazgul stories.. but i like the part when talion become ring wrath and defend middle earth for long time..

[@MatZee27]

Although not book lore correct i kinda like the idea Isildur was put on the ring of power by sauron, it kinda dark and twisted like sauron wanna insult the bloodline of earandil by turning the his heir into his slave

[@IronDragon-2143]

While not faithful to the canon or the books, still a good game so I'll give it a thumbs up.

[@eliseorengelgarcia6364]

i really cant understan the hate behind this, i personally love this because we are treating tolkien lore akin to that of the arturian legend and i think tolkien would have loved for people to use his word as a foundation to build new stories. dont get me wrong i LOVE the lord of the rings, but i also love this game, yes it had microtransactions and i fucking hate those, but i can say this is one of those games were its so fun that it doenst really bothered me to grin everytime

[@LordMortanius]

People hate this because none of it makes any sense. Sauron was so crippled after the loss of the One that it took him over one thousand years to rebuild enough of his strength to appear in Dol Guldur, and yet somehow Isildur is one of the Nine. Suladan manages to humble Sauron, but that would have been impossible as it robs Ar-Pharazon of his own glory (and, y'know, the fact that he was the only one who managed to humble Sauron, an act that was legendary for the doom it visited upon Numenor), and Helm Hammerhand died in 2759...almost 800 years AFTER the Nazgul invaded Minas Ithil and captured it. There are several other problems, like Sauron, a Maia of crafting and smithing, needing Celebrimbor, an inferior smith, to help forge the One. All that Celebrimbor and the Smiths of Eregion learned of the higher arts of craftsmanship, they learned from Sauron.

[@ianbailey6592]

My issue is more that it doesn't feel like LotR, if that makes any sense.

[@anewchaplin]

You didn’t add the two nazgul chicks in here

[@Stoynov666]

It's not canonical, but I would love if Tolkien had gave us more back info about Thr Ring Wraiths

[@bagbrady4306]

Suladân Helm Hammerhand Isildur Riya and Yuka I wish khamûl was in this game

[@arc0592]

5:38 Why didn't Sauron have the no chance ability!? 😡

[@ryanjackman1329]

Plot convenience

[@freddefo1676]

Can someone just make a canon firendly game or movie for once?

[@GentTX]

1:25 umm...thats clearly Santa Maria del Fiore in the background.

[@kobochy8108]

Sauron taking the form of an elf. Yah know I never understood why gandalf and the other wizards chose to look like old men.

[@L4sz10]

koboch y because they came to help and advise the people of Middle-Earth, not to rule over them, or divide them. An elven form might have made the dwarves reluctant or the common folk suspicious. An old man means much less threat to anyone.

[@lock376]

Also elves suck

[@brom9z]

its not canon yes but i still likes the fact that they uses those names for the nazguls

[@jackwallace8181]

1:25 Florence? WTF?

[@ChromeRanger488]

Wait let me just say idk if I saw it correctly but the first memory where the first dude got the ring why does it look like it was the dude from lord of the rings

[@robertrapa759]

i cant believe Helm Hammerhand the first king of rohan is one of the nazgul

[@boilinghippo4468]

He isnt

[@rubendendulk9059]

Whos the bandits voice from? (it is strangeley familiar)

[@rubendendulk9059]

The one who wants his daughter

[@achmadtitofauzan3809]

Ruben den Dulk gaara

[@theburningphoenix8211]

Everybody is pressed that this game added its own lore. It's a NON-CANON game. "This spits on Tolkiens legacy." Because they added characters? Because they gave the Ringwraiths a backstory? If every non-canon game had to be like the source material exactly it wouldn't be a fun game since you'd know the whole story.

[@cuongvu4767]

and what the hell happen to that guy wearing the ring then got it slipped ou of his finger ? i mean how can a ring just,you know, slipped out

[@cuongvu4767]

oh..thanks

[@pineytheelder3898]

Wonder if Aragorn knows about isildor

[@OniDasAlagoas]

What the fuck? They made isildur a ringwrath?

[@itsgeegra]

Far better than those 3 fuckin Hobbit movies.

[@draconicusmathiusanytherio7630]

Gareth Graham sad but true

[@draconicusmathiusanytherio7630]

yea, Peter Jackson was just off his game for that series

[@axlknightwhosaysni5336]

No, there is nothing worse than it. This game is not even trying to be lore friendly

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+Axl Knight who says NI it fits in with the movies just fine. Any inaccuracies can be brushed off easily or explained. I personally really enjoyed shadow of war.

[@axlknightwhosaysni5336]

Oh, silly i thought that LotR is a book.

[@brentdye1504]

Nine for the mortal men doomed to die oh no sauron did turn nine human rulers into nazguls.

[@2seck200]

You forgot talion

[@LeftMender-yc5zl]

2seck he most likely didn't want to spoil it

[@2seck200]

LeftMender 1709 o true true

[@shizuoshimeno2819]

delete this before its too late better late than never dude

[@Uberdude6666]

So who are all these guys? Giving us their names would be nice

[@MotRi1986]

juiuffophiguo the first one is named Ar-Pharazôn, he was a king of Numenor that invaded Saurons lands. Long story short he took Sauron as an advisor instead of destroying him after he defeated his armies. Second is Helm Hamerhand, king of Rohan during one of their wars against Dunland, he was killed during the dunlennings sige of Helms deep. Last one is Isilidur the first king of King of Gondor. It should be added that no one of these characters is ring wraiths in the official lore. The only ring wraith Tolkien him self named is Khamûl the Easterling, a former king of Rhûn

[@axlknightwhosaysni5336]

They names are the same - Shit the child of a bad game director

[@LordMortanius]

Kind of difficult for Ar-Pharazon to be one of the Nine, considering he was at ground zero when Eru reshaped the world.

[@sangbum60090]

So Rings of Power are basically Behelit...

[@billbaraka2879]

... SO aragorn is the descendant of a Nazgul?

[@boilinghippo4468]

No

[@Lawor00]

This game explanes nothis but broke everythink :-D

[@CerealKiller000]

only 3?

[@renanfirmo3451]

Is the king ar-pharazon king of numenor

[@filippauljohnson6924]

Everyone must have butter fingers or something

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

The ring has a mind of its own and actively tries to escape.

[@cyphermain6560]

idk why but sauron looks like an elvish version griffith from the berserk anime

[@artc667]

3:16 My guy, you bushwhacked and stole the daughter of a man whose sobriquet references an incident where he killed a man with one punch, and who would later be found dead standing up frozen solid with weapon in hand while out looking for enemies to kill. The fuck you think was gonna happen?

[@amandag.6186]

Good grief, y'all need to calm your salty rear ends down and stick your "IT'S NOT CANON" BS up it. It's just a fun game series, there is no need to make a comment war outta this just because it contradicts the books and films.

[@RighteousWeevil]

i wish they had done this for all 9

[@Tabby3456]

I wonder what happens when you shame a man too much

[@commietzarsmith8167]

The ringwraiths existed long before the Third Age. Most of these make no sense.

[@bradybullard5877]

That's not all stories of the nine

[@infernothelastelemental514]

Man if people get pissed off because the lore is a bit out of place then they must be miserable

[@TheBeastr]

3:40 pretty stupid for his daughter to move between father & king trying to rescue her from the kidnappers that literally left him for dead. I'd side with Sauron too if I was him

[@magick2006]

THE FIRST GUY, TRUEeEEE

[@cheffo4989]

is this in the campaign or is it a side mission thing

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+Marsha Hynes it's in the main campaign

[@cheffo4989]

thanks

[@DennyBoy7777777]

Forgot the two asian twins

[@herryis4392]

The fuck, isildur still alive

[@Pie_Smacker]

Isn't this game just a "what if" type of scenario? From what little I know on canon, most of this stuff is just what if, as in "this place fell", or "this guy did this", or "this canon part failed and ended up leading to this", sorta thing. Can't that just be the premise for the game and not have everyone whining about canon/not canon?

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+Lorenzo Petskalorenzo the developers never said if the game was meant to be Canon or not. All they have ever said is that "it could easily tie into the movies." So yeah I think it is Canon to the movies. It fits in well.

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+Lorenzo Petskalorenzo so yeah it's never specifically said but from what I gather it is meant to be a tie in to the movies

[@Pie_Smacker]

Knight 77 that makes sense. It's like a fanfiction, or an alternate reality to what could have happened to the lore, such as this one guy becoming a nazgul that everyone is upset about

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

+Lorenzo Petskalorenzo I personally consider it Canon. Especially because of the game's ending. It really isn't so controversial as people make it out to be.

[@Pie_Smacker]

Knight 77 I really like the ending of Talion looking so happy in the fields at the end, being able to remove his armor and swords, finally move on. All I know about wraiths is that they exist on the living world to exact revenge on that which killed them, and the way they implemented Talion and Celebrimbor and all that they did seems great, so that ending is what I find tied down the story, and gave an impact of the game to the player. His duty is finally done, Sauron is *their* problem now

[@simonwillis1529]

Good game but this isn’t canon right ?

[@WadeWilson-]

Join the nine? Then they would be like.... the TEN, helloooooooooooooo

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

Wade he would have been dead so talion would be the tenth.

[@WadeWilson-]

was just kiddin

[@jorgeeduardoochoamojica8469]

The First one is Khamul

[@paveltkachev]

the 1st one is Al-Pharazon ;)

[@DerpMcTrollington]

6:20 watch lotr fotr extended and you will see what actually happenned there. how isildur dies. the stupid people who made this game never watched it.

[@Killzoneguy117]

Game might be lore breaking, but I didn't buy it for the lore. I bought it because beheading uruks is fun as hell.

[@akiramasashi9317]

I am 100% convinced that the people who made this game don't know the first thing about Lord of the Rings.

[@Cr1zza]

The supposed Ringwraith are not possible^^

[@Southern_Crusader]

As someone who read the books I find only a small few of these back stories half decent. Eh, game is more like a Far Cry Assassin's Creed then a Lord of the Rings game.

[@ArcticLaxus]

Greatest insult to both helm and Rohan ever

[@won6809]

Dear prefer the original story of Ar Pharazon than this one

[@CerealKiller000]

Is that backstory canon?

[@Waristheonlyanswer]

no

[@B1811-g1e]

Bounty Hunter far from canon

[@CerealKiller000]

Okay then

[@eliseorengelgarcia6364]

no, consider it a parallel universe

[@CerealKiller000]

Anyway we still dont get any explanation about nazgul origins...

[@Jake-cy7to]

This games are to Lotr what star wars the force unleashed is to Star Wars, they are good games if you are ignorant but they are sacrilege to the original plot.